Dardasha Time Abdur Raheem Mccarthy Said Rageah
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Kareem says no went to Vietnam Hamada earlier he was so happy Jemaine
as I stated earlier,
all of us will be participating in the question answer session.
But since you know me inside out, or do they?
They don't, there's nothing much you can ask. Or they can ask that you don't know, because we've been here together for years.
The questions would be addressed to the shoe mainly. And it's a fair game.
When I asked the sheriff a question, or share camera, and another question, a question.
When he finishes answer, then he can ask a question, or any of one of the few of the can pick up the mic and just ask a question after he finished answer.
Now, since I started the talk, and since I'm in the middle and the Sharla and since this is the mystery of what I would ask the first question,
to share man
under him McCarthy, a question that is general question
also is nothing It is in the minds of a lot of students and that is we assume, that we go seeking when we go overseas, and we say with the shoe, inside headphones, and you know, there are an amount that can do that the one that alive on the one who passed away, and then Mashallah you come back as a student of knowledge is to share so so and they don't realize what student of knowledge will go through to become a student of knowledge or even to sit with the whole amount. Such a dilemma that I mentioned, and the likes of chef, Bernie dumbbells, you know what I mean? So my question to him is, tell us a little bit about your journey, the journey of seeking and, and was it as easy and colorful
as a lot of people as to
this main level hamdulillah salat wa salam, ala rasulillah.
You know, like you said, a lot of people, they imagine that, when they go, they sit, and they just kind of stuck in their lm, you know, they sit in the,
in the helicopter, and M just kind of comes to them.
But the reality is, it's a very difficult journey, especially if you want to really benefit.
And we find the majority of the brothers who come from the west, end, only a few really come back as real students of knowledge. And if we were to look, for example, at the Arabic language, even though they studied Arabic language for two years, and they study in the college for four or five years, we'll find it they don't speak proper Arabic. They don't read proper Arabic, because they didn't put the time into office that you need. Because it's not something you need, just like you know, you take some tests, even though you might pass and you come home with a degree. But then he was significant, isn't it, and it's how you really benefit it. So I'll tell you what happened to me at
first, the first place I chose to go to was to then, as I mentioned, for no particular reason, it was just something that that happened, I went to Sudan. And after like the first month or two, I got malaria.
And I don't know if anybody here has ever had malaria, but you know, you can imagine the worst flu in Canada. And it's like your agenda is fluids. This is awesome. You know, compared to the malaria I mean, it's unexplainable man. Oh, it's just incredible. You know, the first six days I couldn't eat anything. I mean, I would eat anything he would just throw and throw up like you know, gallons and Where's it coming from? I don't know exactly anything. Three and a half days any liquids as well. I couldn't It was so hot and there's no AC and just I was like an oven. Had some beautiful brothers from Nigeria with me. They took care of me and they used to help me make although they you know make
will do for me. It was just it was it was terrible. You know,
I rested for a week it wasn't you know, seven days or seven days rest and you're back on your feet. After the 14 days I got a memory again. This time is a little different. You know, I'll be okay and I'll suddenly be like Mike Tyson punch me in the face I'll be out you know. And that was a it was a weird one. So this first month and then I really thought about coming back.
I said okay, let's just go back you know get a little more money work and come back out again is a little too much. But I saw all the brothers who came back never came back out. So I didn't want to be from them. I said I have to be patient. So this was very difficult and I was patient then and then when you go to any I haven't had to get here mentioned labor union and bureau had just said that you cannot receive the in the knowledge any and have your body be relaxed at the same time. As you kick back. It's a very difficult procedure. If you look for example, and what we used to do we still focus on if somebody really wants to end with that in the college then was with them or
whatever this goes outside. So have they never been on a record that any during my last two years, I found the best way for him. The best way to get knowledge is not in
Major, you know, the big halaqaat, even though I did attend some of them, like the dose of sheer Christian PT, and I said, we should have the rest of your bed, and some of his classes before we started the smaller books with him, like, we know, we can swap books in our feeder. And also,
we study with him as well, and in some of the books of learning, so that we dealt with some of the chapters anyways. But I mean, he was, you know, it was I had other other focuses, I didn't, I wasn't able to sit with him as much as I wanted to. But anyways, you know, this, we would start in the morning have a thirst after failure. Most of the time, we had a dose, you know, we had the 25 hours a week, from like, 730 to one every day in the university, sometimes after door after house. So we haven't noticed as well, after mogilev after ratio. So we had 25 in the university and 25, outside of the university. And for somebody be successful, it's not just attending, because when you attend,
it doesn't really benefit you what you have to do, as Ron mentioned, if you really want to gain knowledge, you have to first of all, read the chapter you're going to read through this year, and then study it, you know, from the short explanation of the book, if you have a book and physically read the book that explains this, and then you go to the shear, anything, he adds on extra, you write it down, anything that you don't understand, you ask him about, and then you reboot when you go back. So you have to put a lot of time in the office to really get there. And it's not it's not easy. It's not easy at all. So no,
you know, people think it's easy, it's but it's not, it takes a lot, you know, when we sometimes you find yourself up, you know, especially against the research, because somebody who really knows about seeking knowledge,
when you start to research in MS Ella, there's nothing more beautiful than that, you know, nothing in the dunya. So when you get into ms Anna, you know, you find yourself in it, you know, usually like you know, two o'clock three o'clock in the morning, and you have to get the MSL, you have to get in the library you're researching, and you finally find it and then you find yourself falling asleep. And then the other ends in two hours, and you have to get up and go again. And that's just how it is. So it's not an easy thing. If you want to be successful, you have to memorize a lot and you have to review all the time. And it's it's a constant thing. So it's it's not as easy as people
think it is. And then you know also from the important things is the issue of a data you have to have make sure you have your a ballot because the knowledge and a lot of that go together. And they help you out with that. zones. It's a strenuous very, it's a very difficult job. But in the sweetness you find at the end of it there's none like it well, if I tried so many things from the dunya Well, I there's nothing like any of the at the end of the day. And that's why even in Schaeffer, he said no to hear the the, for him to hear the noise of the of his you know, pen on the paper, it's more beautiful. And then the person who loves to sit with the the the singer when she
beats on her drums and what have you from the footstep. You know, he says he finds that more beautiful. And that's what is in his to do knowledge. And this is the most beautiful thing that a person will find or find the knowledge and learning more about a lot more a lot more about Danny, the son of our beloved Prophet, so they sent him and there's there's nothing like it, but it needs any. As one of our shareholders, Michelle told us the quarter region
we will say nothing is gonna come. And you mean the men of men and at the knees a bit you have to be really, really serious and really sincere at the end of the day. And then maybe also putana will grant you something of the knowledge. And the more you learn, the more you learn how gentle you are. And that's why now you know, a lot of brothers, they learn they read a book or two in English, and they want to challenge the machine. I read this I heard this or here's the tape. And here's come up with somebody said I heard that you excited said this. Yeah, come on, wants to challenge. And as you realize when you learn more, you realize how ignorant you really are. When you see the scholars have
these big books that are 30 volumes 40 volumes, and you see how much and miskeen you really are, you know you don't have anything and this helps you with the Waldo at the end and you find the love of your mission and how you can take the knowledge from them and pass it on to the others.
Most of you don't know that.
a homeowner command is Marquis de la fere.
He is opponent.
we want to hear some of his poems.
So can you please um his good friend I didn't know it either.
share something with the brothers with the congregation.
So Lahore Haman hamdulillah salat wa salam ala My bad.
I have I've only written seven poems two are on religion and five are on chicken kebab and things like that.
I want to ask you which category you want me to go to? I think it's quite clear. Yeah.
Both what the best of both worlds you know, I only memorize the chicken.
No, by the way, there actually isn't Arabic. There's also a procedure procedure but the judge so of our scholars are more tentative they will proceed. They were put on by
Shut up dark green tea. So under that you're in the management. Thank you.
Thank you for authenticating what I'm doing. Yeah. So
I'll give you a quick short one first, and then I'll give you the, you know. So basically, this is something I wrote for a friend of mine. And some of you may have heard some of this stuff before.
A friend of mine, my eating partner. Well, it was it was inspired by him. Yeah. So I told him, I see you coming in your girth, eat and drink is what you're worth. You're only talk is what to eat. This type of chicken, that type of meat, this type of food, that type of dessert, you eat until your stomach hurts. Follow the sooner I'm sure you've heard, filled with food to about the third. But you eat the whole bird, the whole chicken, your only son now is finger licking.
The other one was a
friend of mine, also my eating partner. And this guy was great. And he knew every restaurant if I get lost somewhere in Virginia color, yes. And last time hungry. Like if you make a right there's a restaurant like that.
One of the thing you need to know for the poem, we used to go to this place the made lamb chops, fantastic lamb chops. It was called Japan in that place. So what happened was we got married both of us around the same time. And obviously after we got married, we stopped hanging out, we stopped eating together. And it was a very, very sad experience. So I wrote him a poem I said, sadness fills my heart and fills the sky. Marriage forces us to say goodbye. The sun had has risen, but it hasn't shown you know, I don't like to eat alone.
Whenever I was hungry, or was in the mood, calling you was like dialing one 800 food.
You had every you had extensive knowledge of every branch and location, even pricing menus and hours of operation.
Now we don't eat and we don't mingle. I wonder if you still eat like when you were single.
So give me a call sometime if you can to eat some kebab or maybe Chopin. Or for a light snack at the all you can eat. Let's make them suffer another defeat
Now, the other question I have for
is to share with us you know, when we came here, when I came here, we were all faced with a cultural shock. I remember the first thing a man said to me, I'm gay. I just want him to kill me at that moment. I felt just please shoot me. Don't tell me you're gay.
I believe something similar to that could happen to you when you go to the east. Can you share some of the you know, funny incident that yeah, that he experienced bro the same word you use because what happened? When I went to Sudan for the first time, you know, the first day I arrived as Where was the masjid. And it was as a rather long walk. So the guy was taking me the budget, he took my hand held my hand. Like it is their customers to that.
man that was you know, for me, I was like, Oh, what is this guy doing? You know? I couldn't you know another man is holding my head is just disgusting. And he's really you know, my any go with me and he's all happy. I'm like, Oh my god, you know, I just want to like crawl on the rock and die. You know, I just didn't know
where I'm coming from you just that's just something to do. And it's their customer. They'll see things from you know, be a nice guy and have you know, brother and his lackeys over your head. And I just yeah, that was that was too much for me. I think a funny story that happened any one of our Michigan students shut up that
he said he went to London for a conference. And Jeff Jeff Chuck Idris he was there. So he did like to do in Sudan. He grabbed his hands Oh, he's the older man shatta Jaffa No, he's the chef comes and walks with him holds his hand. So chef Geoffrey Mead, he put his hand back. He said don't do in London.
Remember that that was a thing. I knew another thing brother told me. He said when you go to Sudan, he's you're gonna find three crazy things. This was the fourth one I found that was actually crazier than the three. But he said you're gonna find first of all that women will try to shake your hands. That's weird for us. And when we become Muslim, it's hard to shake woman's hands. And then you have these no Muslim women, you know, given how you know you're doing and it's like, wow, you know. So the second thing he says you're gonna find really big houses and mansions that you won't see even in America, on the other side of the street, you're fine with my houses. And we found that. He said the
third thing when you go to a public place, he said they all drink from one glass. And everybody comes and drinks from the same glass. As far as it's very strange. And I was here but I was here and we got used to it now. And even holding hands now somebody I know comes in money. I mean, I wouldn't want to do it in Canada, obviously. But
if somebody holds my hand, it's not a big deal.
command you lived and handed in there
with either than in Virginia, Maryland or Virginia, Virginia.
And of course we have chef Joffrey de Sala.
Roseanne used to be in Arusha, Tanzania. Cobain, Salva, Salva commodified a long list of scholars who
who did you benefit most from?
The two people that have benefited the most from
but the people that have benefited the most from in Virginia, say, Hey, we had like classes with frozen pizza classes in his home and things like that there were very beneficial but, but it wasn't around them enough to say that I've benefited from them the most, even though they probably were the most knowledgeable people that I was around. But the two people that have benefited the most from the first was shaeffer Idris, no doubt. And you know, shafr Idris, really, he's a very, very humble man. And because he's humble in the way he dresses and the way he behaves, people, unfortunately, in the West, they think that he may not be that knowledgeable because he's humble. You know, we're used
to someone who has something that kind of like this and their noses up and Mashallah he knows his stuff. Someone's very, very humble. Like, he probably doesn't know that much. But it was the opposite with Chef Jaffa. And there are certain things that got us to realize the status of the share. One of them is one of our friends went to Hajj, and in his group, which I've just addressed, he said, I met major major scholars in Mecca, that we hear their tapes and read their books, he said, these major scholars would drop what they're doing, when they found out the chapters in my group, they would stop what they're doing, stop their class, leave their halaqaat and come all the
way and kiss his forehead, and then go back to what they were doing. There was one thing. The other thing is that this mashup that you were mentioning at the mat had their big names, and now they're very popular, especially around the Muslim lands, they're all over the satellite stations. And
chef definitely used to have a class and he is, he's an expert, and in his brilliant and brilliant mind schelotto Welcome. First of all, he has his PhD in philosophy. And when he was writing, you're supposed to write a book right for your PhD. He wrote a 60 page introduction to his book, be nothing else. And he just showed the introduction to his professor. The introduction was so superb his professor gave him the PhD right then in there. So he's an expert in philosophy, and some scholars say about him. He is one of the last living philosophy. scholars were philosophers and upon the right men hedge. So he is an expert in shuffle Assemblyman Tamia and the writings of Edmund Tamia.
And anyone who tries to read the works of containing me when he gets deep, you're just like, What language is this? Again? What religion is this? You can understand it, you know. So the chef, the chef, the big machine that the chef said, was just mentioning, they would come, they had a closed session in his home. So he would sit on the chair and these big machines would sit on the floor, and he would explain to them from the books and even taymiyah. And so, one of my friends, he was telling me that he went to, he said, he told the chef, I want to attend, you know, his brother knows Arabic very well studied in Arabic his whole life. And so he says, it's just so do you want to confine, but
you can ask any questions. So I said, I sat all the Mushaf such as episode to explain, so I don't know what religion they were talking about. I didn't understand anything. They were saying 5% of what they were saying he couldn't understand it was that depth of knowledge. So chef definitely is very humble man, but extremely knowledgeable, and winning when it comes to his issues of al Qaeda and tafsir. And, and, and I believe one of the things that makes this ship unique, because like sometimes you have to sit close with him. And he will tell you things that you may not find in any book, little insights and
One of the things that he does, he always contemplates to call I remember one time I was at his house, and we were about to pray. And so they went to call one of his sons basically went to yell, one of his sons went to call his other brother, he was just gonna tell him a saw and come back. So it's a 22nd journey. 20 seconds to get to the stairs and say a salah and come back. In these 20 seconds a chef opened and he started looking always contemplates the Quran. And I heard one time that a group of students came to show when they said that after we memorize the Quran, memorize the books of Hadith, what should we do? He told them contemplate the Quran. Then they said And after
that, what should we do? The chef is smart. He don't finish you don't complete the never done complete contemplating the Quran. This is where it shall definitely This is concerned and I must say the other person that had benefited a whole lot from with with Dr. shefali Tamimi for saliva Castrogiovanni Allah
Shalit, me right now is in prison. We ask Allah to grant him his freedom.
shall I must say this journey. And I'm not saying I'm anything any in the field of knowledge, but I've never sat with anybody big scholar, not big scholar, except that I found an angle that I am more or better versed than them in it. Can you sit with someone who's a monster in Africa, but you're in history, you're better than them, you sit with someone who's phenomenal and fit. But you know, you know, interfaith better than that, or whatever it is. You never sit with anyone in life, except that you can surpass them in something, even major scholars, you can surpass them in some angle or another. But I've never in my life sat with someone that I could never find myself better
than them in anything besides Alitalia. And the man and an hour of you're young, and you know, you only know the new young dad, now you're not aware of any, you don't know as much, you know, the folks who was especially started the, you know, the dowel in the candy from the early people in dow in the United States, showed it to me is really, really a phenomenal, phenomenal person. As far as the amount of knowledge. One time I was helping him clean up his library. And he was showing me books. And he was so strongly that our ideas that he had, and he was like, Yeah, I was 17 years old, when I had this idea. This is an age where, you know, others were just, you know, playing video
games and doing other things. And he was thinking like, a very mature person, he would spend his entire day just in the morning, he would go Library of Congress, and he wouldn't come out till night, just pray there and everything like that. very knowledgeable, very knowledgeable, very bit, you know, he could push himself to study. And so you ask him about anything, you find that he knows something about it, even things of the dunya. One time, I saw a brother who drove all the way from New York City, just to consult with me about what
and what should I do with my career. And the shift would talk like, like some counselor at the school, or even better, yeah, and one time, he will have seen him give advice to people and people were studying that field for years. And he told them things that they had no clue about, you know, they will have to go research some more. So he's really phenomenal in that aspect. And
yeah, I can't, I can't say what a shame it is that someone like this in the oma would be put behind bars, Johnny mascola, you get to grant him his freedom. So he's also, like I said, with issues of dunya He is also a geneticist. And at some point, he was one of the top 25 in the world. And he was also doing a study in cancer research he was trying to, and he was trying to try to use mathematical chaos theory to explain the the random and the multiplication of cells in the human body, the cancer cells. So you know, some, let's say, do some hardcore stuff. But beyond that, he also has a lot of AIDS, and he's not one of those people that suck up or lower the heads to the kuffaar. Wherever he
works, they called him and actually one place where he worked, they call him Superman and he, he's beyond what I'm telling you Mashallah varkala. He's beyond what you think an average person is capable of. And one time we were sitting, we were sitting, we're putting together an Islamic Center and this lawyer came to us with pages this thick, no, that lawyer talk that lawyer jargon the way they wrote things. So all of us were on the first paragraph. When we looked he was already asking the Lord things from the sixth page. And his ability to process information is understood. I've never ever in my life met someone. And I've been impressed by a lot of people. I think you all know
I'm very impressed by this unit. Don't get me started with that.
I'm impressed by a lot of people but I've never ever been impressed by anybody in my life as much as I've become impressed by shahadat me. So, you know, his trial is on hold and it's supposed to come up soon, though me not to make this a sad thing. But I would ask you and all the believers to make the for the chef because he tried his trial could go very nicely, if we just put a lot of dye in but
I think I can say a little bit more about our chef Jeffrey drizzle.
Hanalei, remember coming from sitting with one of the shoe, and he was very frustrated, very, very upset. And so I said, What is strong chef? And he said, I cannot convince this man to write more books. Because he said he and if he dies tomorrow, he has whatever he has, he will die with him. And I could not convince him to write more books and leave it for the oma nobody writes, writes like him. Nobody has the end that he has. But the man is so similar to Panama. He's absolutely right. He's very down to earth. Remember when we used to attend his Hanukkah? I mean, people would speak and talk and explain and he would be like, Huh, very interesting. That's good. And he will show the
students who are sitting there that wow
You know, I impress the chef. And I know for a fact the chef knew the information before that young man was born. But you know what he was like, Wow, it was handed to them. Now, my other question
is to chef after him. And it is
see you You became a Muslim on handily learn you learned about Islam?
What is your understanding before while you were reading for someone after some basically before you while you were reading about Islam? And when you met the actual Muslims, Muslims? Was there a shock? Or was it or you found exactly what you read about Muslim Islam and Muslims?
as real quick anyway, I was just looking at Jefferson in Sudan. And every time it comes to then I get the pleasure of sitting with him. I'm the I'm good friends with his sons as well. So it's why don't you sit with him? And he says to Aubrey, has he almost forget you're sitting with the major scholar? No, you have to have to be careful not only you know, sit back and chill too much. Because, you know, you come in and just like chill with you and his garden drinking tea, like, you know, so you actually forget sometimes you still want to water and he brings him down like he just he's like one of your brother. He doesn't make you feel like I'm your sheriff. You have to you know, so to
finalize a beautiful mansion Jaffa that was just with him recently him that he's doing good, he's in good health, and then he's in Sudan, you will see him this short in India inshallah.
When I first became Muslim,
I guess you know, I can't really say much about Steve for six months in America that became was and I can't really say much about the Muslims there. But I thought what I thought was then when I left America, for bolivianos wanted to then that was gonna find this a habit.
So I thought anyways,
so when I got off the plane, I didn't find him, obviously. And I think on the fourth or fifth day,
there was a brother who's actually from Somalia, he took me to the duty free shop to get some milk and sugar and other things was cheaper there. So when I came back from the hot, Sudanese sun, I went to the
this little restaurant, I want to buy a coke, you know, so one of my pocket.
That's like, no one. All my money, my birth certificate, driver's license, everything is gone. You know? It's like, wow, no, no, it's introduction to those in country. And never have any I walked through the streets of DC, the worst neighborhoods in DC. And I'm just like this, and nobody would even think about robbing me. And then I go to one Muslim country, and I get robbed for the right the first week is up, and I'm left with nothing. Having done my password wasn't with me, it's only thing I had to prove who I was, you know,
then after this any, any, you'll find several things. I mean, I went to study in the university. And
the guy in charge, he was like, I'm sorry, we can't let you study here. I was gonna learn Arabic, come learn Dean. And I said, why not? He said, you have to pay $1,500 and I just got robbed and have any money, you know? So how will I want to cry? I would like to just put mine I couldn't believe that was in a Muslim country to me, I had to pay for knowledge. You know. So this this really hurt me. And I was I was you found that Muslims in a something. And as you were mentioning the day any,
any Islamic time that Muslim time, unfortunately, the Muslim sometimes they're in a valley in Islam is in another. But any person we study Islam for what it is, we know, it's not what it is. And there wasn't when they have shortcomings, we have shortcomings, we still have a lot of good hamdulillah and this is what we know even like in Sudan, unfortunately, the situation, it's not going like it is you know, like we want it to the hijab and other things, it's really going in a bad direction. But at least in the Muslim society, we still have something called a something it's a shame if you do it, you know, and you come to Western societies, you don't have that. So the Muslims have dinner
with the backwardness that they have. And everything is you know, as the brother said, and then when you go to the Muslim country, it's run by IBM, and I thought about the computer company IBM, he said no inshallah bucur meaning tomorrow in my village sorry. So this is the the Muslim way of life any because you know, when they go and you go to them, they said, Yeah, can you do this, you know, go to the essential Allah. Then you come back, he says, You Buccola gonna come back in tomorrow and I'll give it to you. When you come back. Of course don't already says Manish and em. So circuits that isn't already. So any handle has a lot of people say we know we learned Islam before we saw the
Muslims out. There was an event that we still have a lot of good in our own mind. And you see the Shabaab coming out now. This is evidence of this Kieran is good will hamdulillahi Rabbil aalameen.
Another question that I have a corner for what to come out and lucky
is a point that I have mentioned and this is a respect that the young people nowadays have for scholars of his
shoe flex salasar we got retirees, and they are so ignorant, that they can they think they can review them, they can correct them, they can talk to them. And so Panama I remember when
We were the math and useful part of law we came, though we disagreed with him on a lot of things that he does. So we went to him. And we we didn't go to him actually advise an advisor for exam. We were there on a small group of students and we were so hurt that the man even is in town, never getting along that you know, and we were so eager to go and just tell him who he is. And he just stays with us. And you know, and we thought this you address it frozen fat and face, there was a Masha Allah, you're on the hook, you're on the Sunnah. And tell him this too, and tell him that too. But instead of getting that from them, they just destroy us on the spot and say, Who are you? Who
are you to address your insofar as you call him?
Who are you? And then the teachers, they just tell us there? And they say we don't even talk to him like that. And Pamela sanusha, you remember from I came to him to his office one day. And I said, well, and the chef was busy fixing his papers, and he's in his office and he was moving and he was busy. And I said, well, Java II said this, and the man is back was turned to me and he was working and he just phone just stopped.
And he had files on his hand and he just dropped them on the table on the desk. And he turned to me and he frameless, what did you say?
I said, Well, Jeffery says Who do you think is better than us? hubback. And we one of your friends that you talk to you address them like Jeffrey Drees just have
I mean, he was so harsh on me. I feel the tears coming out of my eyes like man, what do they do to this? And I just say Santa Monica walked away.
But nowadays is not like that. And you see this in people Mashallah. The they have answer for everything. I stand for every single dollar man, what would advice be for these young people coming
out hungry, low status, and also what just say just described what the machete did to him that's called Serbia. And this is something that's missing now. And this is, ya know, what you really can't get even if you listen to all the tapes and the CDs in the world. Can you take fantastic notes and you memorize every word that came out of a chef's mouth, you heard the lecture online. It's not their beer, you know. And it's something that's missing these days. And a lot of Shabaab, they don't have a lot of respect now. And they can't even nanny for example, which you have thought about. So suppose you disagree with him or your mission. Please disagree with him on on many issues. Does that
wipe out all the other good that he's done for so many years that he's been doing? Does that even wipe out the idea that he is older than us in age and he in there's a mustard in our area, and there's someone older than us, and he's got white hair on his head and white beard? But he does say some things that do make your blood boil, but in the end, he's older than your father. These young men got him they told him
How could you do that? You know, what kind of other is that? And I was I was telling they were thinking you were showing off over to you were on the haka, told him to go tell him you know, something, I always imagine when you guys are talking like this, I told my Imagine if my father came to the masjid, and one of you punks did that then
what do you think this is? Hello? Would you accept if your father came to the masjid? And I said that to your father. This is somebody his father is old, the white hairs on his head in his beard, and couldn't you disagree with it properly? Can you at least look at the fact that he and he leads us to salon, half is of the Quran and all these things you don't put any of that into consideration. It's interesting how we are named when the people of fitna surrounded with moto dilla in his home and he knows they're going to kill him because the president told him that he knows they're going to kill him.
The Companions came they said these people are living in Salah What should we do? He says as long as you're doing good you follow the minute yeah neither do Salah Kala Solomon solo in a fallen man Anything else? Imagine saying this about people are gonna kill you. And now look at the young folks and these he you know, he thugs, you know, into, you know, electronic thugs. You know, they get on these blogs, they talk for hours, they love fights, you know, so for so and so is there and these guys, one of them was telling me that he could go into one of these websites and see how long the blog response was open. You know, the people make their comment. He said one was open for more than
three hours the guy's writing a refutation. I guarantee this guy will give him behind it said three hours and read 2020 minutes in Alaska let's find somebody not even 20 minutes for the you know, the therapy aspect is missing in the Shabaab they don't respect people. I remember one time we were
We're sitting in this was eight and a blazer. Roseanne was sitting and he was telling us stories of phenomenal stories about his experiences and he's in a meeting with Misha.
And then then he would start to ask questions in film and so on and he would answer there was a young brother sitting there and every time the chef with answer you tell them that's not a bad response. Yeah, you know, yeah, you Brother What you're saying is okay, it's not too bad, you know, things like that. And then we were looking at him Where is this guy from and and then I think a few months later, I walk into a machine this guy's up on the member giving also you maybe give a hot tub and grab a mic. You believe you're somebody now that's the issue now. They use you speak to a scholar like this. You call him brother. You know? You've seen I've seen people call him a shout,
Bro. Bro. Even, you know? How shall I say? Hey, bro.
Aren't you sweet? Bro?
Yoshi. Yoshi. Hmm.
So, so you know, something respect. I think we said this during the football. You know, if you have knowledge without any good Allah, nobody wants to get that knowledge from you. Nobody wants to deal with you. You know very well, the young guy who knows some knowledge, memorize some Huggy than I have, but nobody likes him in the mystery. You all know somebody like that? Because he has bad luck. First of all other people you say so what's your demeanor? Even the way you can ask for dinner you can have at the minute a lie we know people. We just say hey, what's your did he look at you in a way that's accusatory like they're accusing you of lying or something like that? and gentle, gentle,
gentle process along with gentle you claim to follow the Sunnah. And those people they claim to follow the sooner the Prophet was a gentle prophets or send them and he was gentle, even with Bedouin Arabs would come and grab him until it leaves a mark on his neck. And he's still gentle. And you are on the hop on the Sunnah and your route to be alone, why it doesn't make any sense for us, to make us all you know, very gentle and lenient with one another. Where is the mercy merciful with one another, you know, even someone makes a mistake. You slowly gently you call them and correct them and call them to the truth? If you wish, they may actually have a question concerning that you
can address that Buddha before your question, I have to say about that.
If you if you if you look into the the books that are written for deliberation, and this is from the the beauty of Islam, and the beauty of the scholars of Islam is we have so many books they've written from the bigger the early scholars, even to the scholars of today, where they wrote an adaptable, and how to seek knowledge, what is the proper way to seek knowledge. So they always focus on the adaptive vulnerability, any needs to see some of them couldn't get the element at the public, they will learn how to have good edit good morals. And before we will seek knowledge and also how you speak to your shake, like you mentioned your share, or bro and these type of things. You only
call him in the proper manner, you know, and you're looking at him in the proper manner, and you sit in a proper manner. And as gibreel al Islam when he came to the process, and he said when he put his knees next to his knees, and they said this is how a student of knowledge and he should approach in a proper manner to his shift. And also, is it even if he or she says something that you know, you learned before or yesterday that I did it? Yeah, we took that, you know, like, for example, if I were to come and teach a class now here and so yes, they taught us that. It's not a proper way to teach in a way to deal with somebody who has more knowledge than you, even if he's a student, like
we are if he's from the machine.
Also, I mentioned a story about Adam. I remember one of my trips to the moon with the visit shipping with a mean, I was with Dr. Solder solid. May Allah have mercy on him.
And a guy, I don't know where he's coming from. And because people don't dress like this guy. This guy has a baseball cap on some jeans. The shed wants to go into his house. This guy comes he's driving a minivan. And he's blowing the horn, the and he gets out to the ship. And Dr. signs like oh my god, he said if we even tried to be the one he said the ship would slap us out of edible, you know, just tell me that because because you could do that. And but he because he was from the general people, the chef was very kind to him. Something happened to me a funny story about the chef and I was worrying exactly what you have in your head today, this red Shema,
we're going to concede that our students are going to quit. And we pulled into a
casino at 330 in the morning, that was 430 in the summertime. So when we you know maybe we'll do in the middle of the shift until the shift came and support on the shift. They would not pray until he comes.
And just like the sideway for the purposes that it wouldn't be like 20 minutes now shifts eight machetes, 15 seconds late log of the week. This is from the sooner by the way. You should wait a little bit for the Imam and not be in a hurry all the time. They will wait but a long time and what time is the son was about to come out. And she had I don't know he might have been out of town wasn't there What happened? I don't know. He didn't come that day. And the time of the day I went there another time, and they will wait for him. So we waited for the chef to come. And the brother He said that has some questions for him. He said one of them is to ask him about something has to do
with an Herculaneum on Zola which is the ruling by
Other laws because some people were ruling by other laws law, because some people change the federal of the shift to be suitable to their federal. And I said the ship won't accept it for me because I'm an American. And you say, you know, what do you care about that you're from America now and a Latin shell that we have. And don't waste your time with it. Everyone, I want to ask the chef, he told me the same thing.
What do you what do you need from them? And a funny thing was, as I was walking next to this year, have you ever read anybody ever seen a chef and he held his size? Any very small, I think he was any small guy, but he's smarter than me, I need to give an example of knowledgeable people were like,
he's a little smarter than command area is a small guy. So anyways, and he was like, in his 70s. So I was walking, I had the same shoe mark on, and I couldn't really see next to the ship, but I was really, you know, keen on listening to what he was saying. So like, and in the ship when we were walking this way, and he wants to go this way towards his house, the road that way. So I guess I kind of cut him off a little bit. And I didn't realize and I weighed over 230 pounds, I'm a big guy, you know, and I found myself over there. The ship put a forum on to me, you know, like, it was a big, you know, fullback pushing out of the way, you know, and I flew, man, he put a forum into, and
I flew in the back, you know, and I was like, man, I didn't know what's happening. All of a sudden, I couldn't send the shipping. What's your problem? Why are you pushing like that? You know, I was like, I was really shocked, you know, is Oh, man, push this way. And I'm a big guy, you know? So I didn't say anything. And one of the brothers who was there from Kuwait, who was on
the ship students. He said, The chef has a rule, they say you're a student of knowledge, you ask him questions that are, you know, deep. So you know, you're a student of knowledge. And it was a regular person within us. He said, he said it for you to cut off your *. It's not from me. So he said, the shift my pushing you what was teaching you?
And I was like, I'm done. Like, I learned it. I'll never do it again. Because I really flew back about five yards back.
Now, coming back to the
man, the question or the issue that he cannot address on there was the issue of these people could pee in people are quick to criticize the whole amount.
And I know some of them for facts. And I'm saying this life and recorded for fact, some of the people who used to be among those people who make Toba for me, that sometimes they will fabricate things. Sometimes they will say for example, they will say shift bin bags, made fatwa against commanded MK
shell members made photo up against commanded Mk. And then you go down and you read the fatwa. And it is true, the chef is saying commanded machismo Talia is this is not to say, do not pray behind him. Don't know you're gonna take this clip.
I know, all this.
But in reality, what they did, they find a photo of a chef
responding to an actual move together.
So they kept the photo of the chef, but they change the name of that move today. And they put your name or his name on my name there. And I know in the area that you were there was a lot of them.
Do you have any experience? Do you know any of the things that I mean? Is it true? Everything that they say? Because they always say the aroma behind us the aroma green is always something that they like to fabricate or create more light over on Mr. Miller under him? Yes, I was I studied at that time, what was their headquarters. And now they don't have much any say we're in Medina anymore. The government has taken any the power from obviously. And they realized that they actually ended the harm they had to the students. And I recall any one time or actually two times, that it came from the Minister of Interior front
and center, even also from the king's chamber itself, for these people to stop their nonsense and what they were doing to the students. And they always talk about following the rulers and obeying the rulers. But on this certain situation, they refuse to do it so panela and when because there was no any. So these people I'll tell you what, it was something that happened to me a personal story is that a rumor spread about me that I should talk about the government's abderrahim indicator of an outcome he talks about the government's and I thought about it the only governments I know. You know that any that you know, that could be you know, I think most of the governments are clear that
they're not really about Islam, any I live in Sudan. I live in Saudi Arabia, and I have good relationships within in both areas. And even one of my friends is a Prince's younger guy, you know, like it's the visit him and to Arabia and the government is to that and I know a lot of people in the government who may not agree with all the things they have we disagree with some of the things but how do we have relations with them and you know, our Muslim brothers and what have you. So I thought you know what, what could I have said about anybody like this, you know,
So the spreading the rumors. And we had a brother from from the UK is a beautiful brother. And he followed it. Who told you? He said, they told me he went to say, Who told you he said obeyed. And so he went back to it. And what it was we were sitting, one time in my house, somebody came to visit me. And I said bruinsma sheriff, I said, He's alemanni.
He said, his role model is commodity Turk. Anybody visit him? That's all I said. So they said, I talked about the governance because I said something about a burrito. And they made something big, like I was making this big tech fee and all the government's. So they'll take something in the fabricate and spread it like this. Also, and I remember, something I used to do when it comes to fabricating things is that they will take care of certain of the scholars who were imprisoned for a certain amount of time. And I think most of the people in you know, their names, they were put in prison for about six years and let out these defects that affects work for Chevron bears, saying
that they should be stopped if they do not, you know, stop what they were saying and some of the things that they were doing. However, another factor, which came right after that, where he praised them, they wouldn't show the students this, they would just show him one and not the other.
And in general, unfortunately, these people, and I like the terminology that should come out he was I think that's classic, and the thugs is the and you'll find that these people they rejected all throughout the world, you know, in the society, and I heard they have a basement here and in this area, and you know, all around the world. That's how they are, they're not accepted in the Muslim communities. Because they don't they're not concerned about the Muslim, all they want to do is talk about Muslims. And the fact that they will talk about any somebody who is on the sooner more than somebody who is far away from the sooner it shows you in the reality of these people. And so I sat
with them, and I know them very well. And unfortunately, any I don't, I don't blame them. The ones that we have in the West, I don't blame them. Because this is what they have been fed. Even some people were motivated, you know, some people that's what their machine they teach them. And unfortunately, they come into this, this blind following.
What there are many machines, and they believe that these shoe they fly through the air and red capes, and they leave many tall buildings in a single bound. And this is like and this is the end when you talk about the message of Edison falling in the hole and assume that this is what is totally against this, you know, say we say we love our machines, and we take from our machine. And then any I recall one time I'll tell you something, and he was shook up the machine, I bet. And in this issue, I had a I had a I had a big running with these, these people I used to go to every time I used to go to Chicago Merson every time and I remember one time that one of them started talking
about me because I used to sit with my shift Shut up. There's no carry. And he said, I do a lot of diesel curry is what this guy said he's the enemy of Allah. Wow. No. So he said, you have to go to our machines. And I said, I said what? And then I told him I put him on the spot. I said what does he have? He said he's more. So what does he have? He's like
well, you know, I don't recall but our machine No, you have to go to our machine. I said I've got to check out the machine that is the scholar Medina algorithm as you say, Lola is not that specialized in the match. You can't go to what is this? And then the scholar was with us from the from the discussion group the idea from them he said he can't stop or want to check out the rest in our bodies when those large one in Medina so I went to the chef and asked him and he said how the polygon D origin he says a very good student College is a lot of good and he praised him so much he said he went a little overboard in some of his foot was at Medallia Cuba as well. That's how you
that's how I felt. And he told me you can benefit from your life, you know, some scholars saying Look at the view they're saying and he's it's, it's a it's a totally different, totally, totally different worlds, you'll see that unfortunately. And all they want to focus on is what he's talking about Muslims. And I know a lot of these people personally, and their communities, they have reached a level where it's like this type of object, they see that they have made it theirs, they're in a safe zone, everybody else is off of it. So this falls the that's why you always find these types of Muslims are always falling into sin. Now, if we look at for example, some cities in America on the
East Coast, where the biggest cocaine dealer is what from this group,
any the biggest drug gun gun country in the city from this group? Any
I don't know when I mentioned about DNA, some of the things that some of the sisters do, I don't want to mention that here on tape or live here. But it's the set because why because they feel they've made it and there is that's why it's so easy for them to fall into sin. And even in in Medina, some of the things that happen some of them may anymore, Lani and he protect all of us and it was it was some evil things. So the end unfortunately, we find that they focus on trying to make fitna all the time, no between the Shabaab and talking about the scars and you see the major scholars.
You know, for example that I remember they told us that all of shipping ot means students that are off of it.
Have chefin buzzer students are off of it. So does that make sure companionship with him as them? Now they told me when I went to a casino stay away from the students of chicken with a mean they are dangerous do this Chicago Muslim
Shahrukh know Cody shirodhara de shocks me to lay on my machines that I studied under, stay away from the dangerous to this to that they have to clear how they will
win ship with me before he died in his will. He said what? When I die, he knew his dying class, he was close enough. He said when I die, shut up the ramen dash is in charge of teaching Nestle in my mind Mr. Chef Sam is surveyor who is married to his daughter, by the way, and he's dangerous, I can't go near him. And he said Marian to his daughters, the first is good for him. And then he told him he becomes the Imam, he becomes the hottie. He becomes the teacher of the teacher have a solid feel for him. And his other son in law shall mostly teachers up here and he's the most dangerous of them, by the way. And he told him he does not pay them to see to the students when I die. So you'll
see the scholars saying something and they're saying it's on the site, they might agree with him on certain issues. So they'll take this and they'll put that in the in the bright lights. But the issue is they don't agree upon with them, they'll hide it and put it away. And this is very, this is very, very dangerous. And you can any male protect us all from this. And obviously, you know, I was studying that. And I went through it. And I realized the time that was wasted and and theory upon. And you know so and so is this so and so is that I'm gonna and after about four or five years of going to that law got him and I left I left that that ideology. And I remember one time I've
benefited a great benefit from Chicago there was a battle but there
was a rosewood deferring something. And he said to me, and I have not found this later on in the book of unifying myself, but he mentioned that even though they mentioned that any knowledge that does not increase you any man, it is in McCool, what do you mean? Cool, something has been entered, something has been said other than a class. And he says what you find these people will talk about this, they'll stay up late at night, so and so's off so and so on? No, by the way, he's back on today. Okay, okay, I'm sorry, I didn't know man. He's back on today. He goes past he's back on the main house today, you will find these people not able to they'll get a free slot. And
you know, so you'll find now that these people said this in the talking about it's much cooler, it doesn't have a floss in it, as in no payments in rahimullah. If it doesn't increase you any money doesn't bring you closer to Allah subhanho wa Taala, then it's really cool. And may Allah protect us And may Allah guide all of us selling them and as to help the woman shell and come together as one in general Ghana, I mean, some kind of law, it's it's absolutely true. first hand experience that messages across the street of their location firsthand, the economy is called, then it's called a comics called para, we will never we do not go. And the justification was I'm doing something
greater, and purifying the update of the oma, I'm responding to this. So how to handle a lot of time was wasted. But one thing that we all learned through the years that that idea is like a jahannam, you know, your hand them, it could not find anything to burn, then it would burn itself. So when they find no one available around them to burn, they would just turn to each other. And today you are moved out of tether tomorrow and so on, then we start until one of us left in that's what's happening, right? That's exactly what happens. Now, we talked a lot, can I cut you off real quick. I want to say something that my machine taught me when I left that. And I was pumped up. And I have I
took my notebooks I wrote everything down. I was gonna get on the internet, and I was going to refute them, you know, and expose them.
Some of my machines they taught me they said the best way to deal with these type of people is to act like they're not even living like they're not even in this world. He said what legends like you said that, like fire each other up. And that's exactly what happened. exactly what happened. I took this from a machine and I don't even know, even now if they were to write something, okay, yeah, okay. And they put something on us about I will hurt us and I and I don't even want to read it. Please. If it comes out tomorrow, don't bring it to me. I don't want to I wouldn't waste my time. And I saw one of the machines when I went to him. And I said so and so said this about you and his
book. He said, Well, if you haven't seen the book, it's a book has been print likes for six years. And he's been saying really bad stuff about the guy. He said, Allah has to have it. He said, haven't seen the book. And you'll find the they talk about stuff. And they don't even know one of our brothers. One of them said something very funny in a conference, it was all these massage in America. They say what you say about Abu muslimah and his shift instead of going in on him dock dock dock is you know, talking really bad about him. I will muslimah he came to that ship to Cuba and Medina and said, Please tell me these mistakes I have so you can tell me and this is a guy who has a
PhD and had eaten and if he just now it's never University, unfortunately. And he was like, Oh,
I really don't know. But you know, I have heard that our machines say about us.
And how can you say that?
On this is live on all these links and he's saying about this person who has over 1000 tapes in Africa the person has the biggest machine in America and even like you said if we come after him if we think we might have we learned more than him in Medina or this or this i'm not saying I did I haven't done anything like he's done but look what the brother has done some things we might not agree with that he's that he said, but and look what he's done for Islam in the West. And this is this one attack him you see any light of Islam they want to put it out upon a lot of you and that's what they focus on anybody who's a big Dyer, they want to what put him out of office Lima shipped
him LED and ship it to me they want to focus on these people who have been successful in their data and what they put out this light will open with them in order
for a very unique so Hannah law issue like people banding in the pub and you know people saying issues like that nobody talks about that some handler we are quick to criticize the data is we're being striving and fighting for the Manage of the setup. Under current law, we left the living ones and sometimes we go to the grave of those who died. And we want to say hey, look the way they did and so on. So, I want to give take this opportunity and give the brothers on the floor to ask to ask any questions. If you have a question to any of these two speakers inshallah so just raise your hand and shall repeat your question to the sisters they can hear. Yes, they are in the back.
How could I help?
The brothers saying Zola Haley is saying and come to London for the people who come to the Maasai for salata Juma, they do sacrifice a lot of times, because the takeoff time from the work and they come and so on. And instead of them when you find
coming when you come to the masjid, he says the hot leave is just repeating everything from the Quran and Sunnah. However, basically, he's not dealing with the current issue, as I think I understood, or he's not giving what is needed at that time to the community who came to spend time and sacrifice time to listen, how should we approach such a happy one? How should we correct him? And Michelle, I will give this question to one Oh, come on. No.
It's below 100 level. So as soon as we
at it, perhaps Michelle have different opinions and they can feel free. But yeah, the mom is not untouchable, Danny, and there isn't there isn't anyone in the oma not even the the holly for the hockey man that you can't approach and give and correct or rectify, as long as it's done properly, with good with good manners, and you can go up to him and thank him for his effort, and so on and so forth and tell him and and you can even do it in an indirect way and suggest you know, this is a good topic, you know, what do you think we address this issue or that issue because so many people, it affects their life, but they don't know about it, and they don't get a chance to hear about it.
And when you give the hopper, you've got 500 people who are sitting and not speaking and not playing games, and they're willing to listen to you. What do you think if we use this topic, you can suggest to them and you don't have to necessarily go and say, hey, I've been praying in this message for the last year and you give the most horrible topic of corporate topics I've ever seen in my life. You just do it in a nice way. And so it's not that they're so untouchable that you can go to them as long as you do it with with good manners. Now, I would like to add
two pieces, pieces of advice that will make your life easier when listening to any football, no matter how horrible or no matter how many times you heard it this way you benefit from anything, because now at times people go and they want to hear stories, right? They want to take them up and then bring them down and make them cry and make them laugh and make them sad and make them happy. And if they're not enough stories, people like kind of just want entertainment, you know, they want it to be
Handsome, you want him to have long hair that blows in the wind? They want the public to have no accent, and to be eloquent in English and in Arabic and to make no grammatical mistakes. And yeah, what do you want? Exactly? You know, and then they when you give them a good holiday like that, and they want a different topic, like they can be happy when we see different so it's like a movie now we've seen this movie. Can we see another one? I'll tell you something. two things. One, when the hottie was speaking, and he says an ayah, and Hadid. Focus on that, let that be your hobby. And you've all been to a place or heard the hood. Well, it was just horrible. Everything the accent was
horrible. The mom was stuttering the end it just it wasn't working at all. But he was saying is an ad. So focus on this is an ad and then test yourself because a lot of people say we need to have some new added we heard this old stuff before. You know, the other day I was going to give a lecture and everybody kept warning me give them new ad. So in the in the beginning, I told him Well, I I was told to find Junior Hardy, but I couldn't find any every what I found is about 1530 years old.
It's not about the new material. It's about this old material. Do you apply it? And this is a this is a culture now that has developed which is a nightmare. People just want to see a what is what is this new? I know this? I know this? I heard this before? No, it's not about that. It's about do you apply that or not? So you can do this even if the Steve is horrible when he says the Hadid no pay attention to it and then say okay, do I apply this or not? Can I start applying this one out when I go home? He says an AI Okay, I heard this Oh, yeah, you heard the item before. But do you apply the item before the AI is gonna come on the day of judgment and either testify for you or against you
yet, he acted upon me he didn't act upon me. If we focus on benefiting and applying that knowledge, you will benefit from any football now beyond the report was still horrible, you can still approach the Imam. And if you feel if you feel to add to that formula, I think a good way is if you see somebody who's a good friend of the Imam
for example, if I were to give the football here and you didn't like my foot buzz, and it come as my friend has been there will be you know, somebody could come to him and tell him that probably an easier way to approach the man. And then also I want to in a way he like he mentioned a lot of people you have to realize any even in the in the East now there's not a lot of footballs
any even now, like in some of the like the The Two Holy Mother father were there, they have to read you know, so it's not really like a real good way, you know, but when even when you go to Eastern countries, you know, Sudan, Egypt, there are good quarterbacks, obviously, but not all the quarterbacks are good. So when you're here in the West, and the majority of kotoba, and originally not pulled up, but for some reason, there was nobody else to do it. So he was forced to do it. So you have to realize this and bear with him. And this is a good very good point. And I've been at that if when he mentioned right now about just focus on the identities because the students used to
come to me, and any the majority of the teachers that was the teachers or maybe half of them, they weren't that good. And he had he had knowledge, but it just wasn't good at teaching. So, I told them for example, I said that for the teachers very boring, what do we do? And I did I was the older student and they were the younger students. I said yes, what is the what is the book that is the Makoto you have to you have to study is it the serum Katia? I said live with even get the get the free tips from Kathy and go in and shall you'll benefit something from what he says but it's so this is a good point that he mentioned you know, focus on ideas and implement them lives. That's a very
good point I have benefited a lot from that.
Any more questions? Sharla. Yes.
that the current state all depends on the content. Like for example
how many Wi
Fi and all these things are being fed to the RPF at 2pm that we sell these every day?
Check give an
example to say that
I saw this
I heard about this incident
member kicking kicking head from the gym.
Know that story and if you remember the story, any that the the shift my mother to have ramola when he was teaching the students to heat whether it was from Quito or just general class and they're like everyday to heat their heat, give us something new. So he mentioned that he said they need to teach them lesson. He said you know today excuse me, I have to go to certain
Such a place because we heard a story about somebody walk up to me that he insists with his mother. And
you know, and then he came back he mentioned that, you know, he said, okay, we just found that they had slaughtered for the jinn at their house with the new house. So like, I'm gonna go shoot with Iranians is a good thing. And he said, You see what I'm saying? Because this is actually him having incest is in shock is actually worse than the incest. So he said this is important. So he had always studying to heat. And so it's it's a it's a good story for that story. Yeah, sure.
Any more questions Shawn love was the thing is, we are gonna have a question and answer session about different things. No, this is now just
a personal thing. So the questions about the things you took in the conference is going to come either after mobilego after Isha one of them. So it's just a personal because you have totally
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people that want to migrate.
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Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim Allah Most people will talk about migrating to the east once they actually do go.
They usually can't they can't take it. You know, I recall one of the brothers and his his his wife she was like one of the head on the internet about the Logitech Adrian we have to go in this. When they finally went to Sudan. She was had a difficult she had to go back to America. She couldn't take it there. Even though she was you know, for years, she's been calling to the head, you know, and what have you. And he had you in general, it just goes up in word you but you have to make a draw from the land of gopher to the end of Islam. But the reality especially those of us who who grew up here, and we have a difficult and it's almost impossible. And it's because this the system of life
there is just so different and so different from what we're used to, it's almost impossible. And under like you mentioned here, and you look at us today, we're in Canada, in Toronto, and we're here with our Islamic attire and our beards, and we're in the masjid and we're talking about Islam. But there's an AMA and he looked now here and we come for Abu huraira braselton budget, and most Islamic countries, you don't find as many Muslims do Mashallah, Allah will compress a little further. So the fair if you want to it's here, the obviously any, the shorter is more here that he was more, it's more difficult to show that will be more of an agile for those who are able to hold on to the vision
and in an environment like this. And obviously you have more agenda. So I mean, obviously, I can't say Don't go. And it's not a good idea to go. But because it is a good thing for you and your kids if you go. But what we found the majority of the time is that a lot of people, they put a lot of effort into making hijra, and at the end, it doesn't work for them. So you should at least try to hold on to Islam here and be with the Muslim community,
in Shama, the pharaohs here hamdallah.
Let me go back to person questions. And let's
play we're gonna have to come back chapter two.
We will answer all the filler questions later in Sharla. But now, it's better that you do the first question. Yeah.
wave, you know, like,
many Americans have been talking about how the gap in knowledge was on the web.
Can you repeat the question? The question is, how I gained my vast, vast, vast
lack of knowledge and
whether it was in the east and the west and then how I gained my my superb superb superb dour skills.
Have one for this. Don't forget, I have to add something to his answer. Cuz I know something you guys don't know. Don't ever forget.
See, that's why I don't like things like this.
Okay, well basically it's it's very simply I started in, in Sudan. And it's interesting that actually, I actually met him recently in Sudan. And he was last year this year, but a year ago, a year ago, we just met briefly. And then, when, as we were talking, we discovered that we met in 9494. And we both forgot that we met at 94. So about 94, I started to go to a message that the that the Imam was one of the students of shuffler bang, Kamala is an amateur sangharsh fellow lon, he's a Syrian scholar with a blind man, you know, amazing in his deceit in his memory and his recitation, you find find some of his work online, because, you know, oh, can I add to this phenomenon? So, you
know, I would attend a lot of his classes that will hit another class near our neighborhood and pay the class and I would attend that, then I there was one point where I had the class every day of the week. But they weren't all added to his level they Macharia but it was good enough level for me and, and then in 96, when we moved to Virginia, or the Washington DC area, and and there because as the chef's aide was saying, there, there was a branch, there was a masthead there. And all the names that was mentioning in the beginning, all these machines were teachers there there was they've been situated there for years. I didn't attend them, I had I was initially going to stop school and then
attend them I had and shut Jaffa trees, have it all actually told me not to do it. And I was angered in the beginning, like, why not stop reading, studying about dunya to study, you know, the deen. And later on, I discovered that there was more Baraka in his opinion, because he was right, you know, I would have regretted severely, and in my head would have shut down before I could have even gotten my degree. So I find myself with nothing in my hand. So, but, but we were able to benefit with some of the machines, like I was mentioning, some of them, we had classes with them and in their home privately, towards the end with them I had was with about to close and started to attend some
classes, just, you know, just sit and take notes, not necessarily registered in my head. But like I said, the most benefit we got was from South Africa, Greece, Shalit, me, we had an Islamic where the center was called double outcome. And, you know,
exactly, well, I have mercy on it, because it shut down after 911 from all the pressures, you know,
so, so there's so there, we, you know, took a lot of core classes in Falcon and other issues and was very beneficial to me. As far as the Dow was concerned.
I was basically put in a position, there was this man who was the chaplain or a man of George Mason University, and then he left and he put me in his place, and there were big shoes to fill, and I never could fill his shoes. But what happened was that the Dow was a little weak there. And in the two, three year history of the school that had or of the MSA, they had two or three chapters. So two, three chapters, and two or three years ago, the Shahada year. So when I, when I became the chaplain there, we, we wanted to, you know, revamp the whole tower table and everything. So for the first time ever, I put together a dowel workshop, and I gave it a catchy title, which become became
very popular, I call it how to get a Shahada in 10 minutes, and it was supposed to be a catchy title, every now and then I get these angry Muslims out there, you assume you can do it in 10 minutes. That's not the point. But
we did it in the middle of the semester. And we did it like over over two days, it's about a six hour course. And at the, from the middle till the end of the semester, about 15 or 17, people became Muslim. And people started becoming Muslim left and right professors and instructors at the school and students and everything. So one person was, you know, amazed by what's happening, they call their cousin in Ohio and said, you know, you know, we had this workshop and it made a big difference to the dollar table. So then Ohio invited me over and then this other MSA invited me and then in a mohawk University in Canada invited me and then the UK. And then it started to it moved on from
there. But how I learned the techniques, we used to know some American African American brothers that were that were very effective, extremely effective. And it like, like I always mentioned, they could get 60 jihadists in a day. 66 zero in one day. So we tried to learn from them how they do it. We gave them venues, I had a radio show, every day, give them the last 15 minutes of the show to teach us how to do dour for a full year. They never got into it. They just kept talking about the intention of the day. Fine, but I want to know when I get in the street and someone says, Hey, are you Muslim? Tell me about Islam. What do I do? So I could take the Shahada within a few minutes. So
the whole year, they couldn't tell us how to do it. Another one we made then we got a venue we advertise and he's going to teach us how to give that when he came and spoke about the hellfire. So I said okay, let's let's turn this the other way. I started
Hanging out with them in the streets. And I learned, you know, the techniques that they were using. And but what I did, the only thing that I did was I just put it in like a systematic way and put the evidences for each technique from the Koran or from the state of the process. Or from you know, the sciences of psychology and sales, negotiation, everything is as though we're in it and put it together in a package and presenting it the first time it got results. So we learned that you could actually teach people with no doubt experience, how to give that one become effective to art. And and from there on, you know, I started giving it worldwide and then someone put it online then I
started getting emails from around the world, you know, as someone in Riyadh started giving power to the immigrant to the non Muslims there. And for like, four years ago, they had like 60 people coming into Islam as a, you know, a group in Toronto, they initially heard it online as well. And they brought like, probably around 200 now to Islam, and, but they retained a good percentage of them as well. So
anyway, that's how the whole thing started. Initially in Sudan. When I started, I started reading the books of Shama, deedat, Rahim Allah, and you know, learning, you know, how to debate biblically and things like that. And when I came to the US, I was, I was hoping that I'm going to have intellectual discussions with people and people will be very educated. And I found people were yummy for the amount of knowledge at their fingertips very ignorant, and especially about religion. So I, and I still wanted to debate biblically, which was the old style, and we just debate that style. And I find out that they don't they either had to teach them, first of all, the world was wanting to
come and debate them using the Bible. So, you know, we've discovered that there are better methods in doing that. And I always tell people that watch comedy that Rahim Allah did with Jimmy Swaggart, that debate, which is an acceptable form, and it has its place and its time. The problem is the debate became so popular, people thought that was the norm. That that's how you deal with things. And that's why wherever you go worldwide, you find people rough in there, trying to put people in a tough spot and embarrass them. But the truth is, you know, that one is an invitation. And I will say, you probably heard me say this before, if that was an invitation, when is the last time someone
invited you like this grabbed you by the next Listen, there's biryani at my house eight o'clock, you better show up? Has anyone ever invited you like that? So if it's an invitation to Islam, it can't be a fight. It has to be something nice nasty something gentle. So that's in a nutshell Danny, the story I just want to address want to add to something here when we met in Sudan recently and we were talking you know, I was we realized we we both kind of learned that the basis of the Dow from the same ship the same Juma football
from Chicago center, Ashish Allah and we pray that every Friday and people come from far distance different this year he was so good and it's called but and it's Arabic was just so beautiful I just the Mashallah Torah Kala every citation that a Mashallah just amazing. So,
he was telling me that, you know, he lives inside here he lives in Pakistan. His father was ambassador to Sudan. Sounds like yeah, I said, I remember in 94 there was this little scrawny kid really short, really skinny skinny. He's always come with a tape recorder and put it on the chicks. Remember, no, small, small kid and his father was an ambassador. He was like, that was me. And I was like, and then he told me another story. I remember this white guy, you stand with this other brother named Mukhtar really tall, really skinny, you know, and I'm really totally fat now, you know? So I was like, that was me. And so we had known each other that whole time we hung out and we
didn't realize it was it because he changed how he looked when he grew and got a little bigger.
And I became a
I grew a lot
wider during that time. So I look a lot different so it's actually funny. We've been hanging out for like any I think it's my second time here today. So it was like a few months we hung out together, we didn't realize we had known each other they'll die Mashallah.
Now, I think this was one of the most enjoyable lectures or talk that he ever heard. I was very informative and very beautiful. Shut all the answers were well put out May Allah reward them both. And they'll reward you for listening in shallow, shallow we will resume with the rest of the lectures which is