Muslim Women Challenges Conspiracies Part 2

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The segment discusses issues related to Muslim women and men, including cutting off men from love, missing women from their dreams, and the need for men to be more aware of their values. The importance of finding a way to be a good Muslim woman and not let anyone know of their actions is emphasized. The segment also touches on the pressure of men on women to respect them, the importance of not giving up, and the use of "has" in the title of the court case. The speaker also mentions the importance of men in their rights and the need for them to have the right to vote.

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Started in Egypt and so on. Are you familiar with the

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with the magazines, he started in Egypt, one of them one of the

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most famous one of them openly Islam.

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Number one rule is the use of resolute

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was actually and by the way, almost all of these magazines started ninja.

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They started by Lebanese Christians. They're not started by Muslim women. They're started by Lebanese Christians, but they were writing about Islam. And so

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the wider accent of the

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Muslim. There's the kind of magazine she's praising, he wrote one time, and this is just an example of the kind of thing that you see in the magazine.

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She said, he said, he wrote, I would like every young lady to take her boyfriend by his hand and take him to her father and tell him this my book.

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This was early, this was early 20th century in Egypt, I mean, even here in the United States.

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And this is what they want for me,

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even beyond what you'll find

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in the land.

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But this, this kind of thing, this kind of conspiracy and this kind of pressure and challenge being put on women, it is continuing today.

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You can see the magazines in the United States. You can see especially in

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in a magazine, I want to talk about this example. The example of safety magazine

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is an excellent example of the kinds of things

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the kind of pressure that has been put upon

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Muslim women.

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This magazine supposedly, is written for and on behalf of Saudi women.

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And it is distributed free of charge to every 30 students in the United States, that many of them get to practice one for the husband, one for the wife.

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And even after they were some brothers moving from their apartment,

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and another brother moves in his place, they get they get a magazine at the new address, and it still comes in all levels.

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And it has been spurred with unbelievable reporting.

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And unfortunately, it has had a strong influence

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on many Saudi women, in fact, it becomes like a drug.

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They have to read it.

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The sound is also present and so on, don't read this magazine.

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And they throw away as soon as they receive they'll find out that there has moved to their neighbor reading it.

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This magazine that is being spread everywhere

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is the kind of ideas that they're trying to spread to the Muslim woman in southern Saudi Arabia. And the same kind of things are going to be attempted to be spread among the Muslim sisters

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tele just to be brief, I want to quickly

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go over some of the

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some of the examples from

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this magnet basically promote promoting

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going without

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worrying about traveling alone without a chaperone

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leaving the house leaving the parents leaving children

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how to be possible

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keeping up with the stories in the world, families of England and so on

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some of the examples of some articles from safety magazine and issue number 269

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article was between the house and the Saudi woman accused investment

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in its

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women of course without the job as the example of mixing between house and

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boat without the job of Mashallah

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they have done a beautiful job of blending between and balancing between housing,

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magazines.

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Pretty much the same thing

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about Muslim woman

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so she's able to work at home. What do you think that's great, she can work at home so she doesn't have to go out you can work a job and so on. so forth. They show a picture of her working at home, and she doesn't have the job but she's in the picture and they're working at home and then they setting up the show

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As an example of what Muslim women should be

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made in

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Southern California, another issue of sanity, they talk about Captain f9, the first female Saudi pilot.

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And it says that she is giving the real picture of Saudi.

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Another issue they state.

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They state that being a store, this is the dream of every Saudi woman.

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It says that she can travel to different places see all sorts of new things and benefit spiritually, and materially,

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the director, stewardesses, and he discussed how we have to be a certain way and certain height, and they take classes about how to put their hair up, and how to wear makeup and so on.

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No issue, they thought about what a woman wants, woman to study, nuclear energy could lend against it. And she said they shouldn't have anything to say about it, I should be able to be free to bring them to study.

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Where they complain that the young woman, the

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woman, the women of today, are being cut off from love, and credit, and so on. And they

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are complaining that fathers and mothers are having too much control over the children and therefore the children cannot fulfill their dreams.

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And finally, there is about choosing admin that says, we know that there's some good men out there behind and work and we meet them.

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Another issue

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that was in the back, and

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when we're talking banks, and it's a good idea.

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And they give the example of Egypt,

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as good for Muslim women two

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occasions, they describe marriage as being a prison. And they say that women are oppressed. And describe movies.

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Sometimes they write stories in which a woman is kept from marrying her lover. So either has to live a life of misery or she runs away to marry him and so on.

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They recommend that men and women should meet each other. And they will give example of a woman telling her diet to to get dressed, I mean, dress nicely, in order to go through some pain down the road with us to meet your cousin that she's thinking of

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getting married to

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is an article

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to show you how poisonous this magazine is, and what really is bought it.

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And how much you need to get this number.

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Between the editor of the magazine and a woman.

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The woman says you follow those old values. They're not useful today.

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So the new she said, I think that the lads of yesterday

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are not meant with today, obviously, not more.

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So he says but the past is the history of the future.

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And then she says the real change is my different. You are sleeping under reports of heritage in the games of the phones, and replace an admin to

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a new

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This is a very lovely

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in just the emotions of the 20%.

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So it says the values do not change.

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She said the opposite values change the most.

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He says everything that changes everything. And you me

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nothing stays the same. There is no hobby as much as such because

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nothing stays the same.

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The pace of almost

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everything changes all means all the *tier posting.

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Nothing changes.

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And of course there have been a section about a lot of the purposes of the government when you go out in public

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has not been a source of attraction from it. But of course they have a section about how can you look your best while wearing

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the nicest and most attractive fashion that covers your face and everything except your face and head. It looks the best when you go out.

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For some of the articles again,

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I'll just mention the names of some articles that they have

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my heart and mind upon

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where did the

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deep love is a must for marriage.

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Nancy Reagan sings.

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They are present though they love the word family, I'm sure they're all

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somewhat shocked that they're separated, that I hate to give speeches

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is Michael Jackson skin black and white,

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no restriction.

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Seeking a man

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leaving on the street is not pleasing.

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How to plot against your husband.

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These are some of the things that are based to our Muslim sisters and in the world and it is all part of the idea or parts of the plan.

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By the by the without the pain among us to try to bring out they will remain with them. And then they might be afraid that they might even

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split sponsor the radio,

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show with some advice.

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Let me just make some

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shout out to our sisters. And brothers can benefit from it.

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If you want to know really how you should behave as a Muslim sister, as a Muslim woman, and you want to get an example in your life and look, to really see how you are supposed to be and what is the best way for you to be to gain all this man without a ledger, the local

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look to the printer, look to the examples of the females.

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And how they live their lives, how they live their life for the sake of others.

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Secondly, don't be overwhelmed by this room.

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Don't see the pleasures of this world and think in fact that they are real pleasures

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that many of you come many of you convert it to Islam. You come from the

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alien, you know that, in fact, the many times people look like they're happy, and they're having fun drinking or whatever.

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Or mixing with men and women are dancing. But you know that in the long run, as long as they don't have it's No, they're not going to be

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in

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that situation. People were turned away from the members and

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they will live a very tight life in this world. But there they also don't live to the rays of the sun and don't aspire to be like that.

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And you should feel the the honor of being a Muslim,

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that you're following the way that I love to have a data creator.

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You're following the way that I

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asked you to behave. And this is far better, and far better. And far greater than the way to perform. Those people that are barely different than animals have died in one verse even more surprising,

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even more misguided than animals who cannot hear and see things.

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So you should feel that honor with them and don't look to the world

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and see what they are doing and think maybe this is what you want to one but you should feel that and have the love

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in the way of Allah subhana wa tada and there's no way that is better than the way we handle with data.

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So don't be confused by tricky statements by rational arguments. And assume that that's something and it is clear.

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It is clear to you Don't let people come and give you some wrong rational argument and so forth to try to fool you. But just remember that unless you handle the data revealed as a clue in the process, and it was clear, and if it says something and it includes you, then it means that

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anyone with any kind of rational argument

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or whatever number one,

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ask him because he's not

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have to realize the notion that Allah subhanho data is going to test you

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both men and women

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and that especially nowadays, the tests

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It is like a tidal wave for many sisters

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coming from the football coming from their relatives coming from Muslim sisters coming from us and organizations, magazines, books and so on.

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What do you have to realize that over some handle without these things and

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it's is to see it as a testimonial

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and even just to smile, smile at it and say I know this is

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a must have handled without wants to see my action, my sacrifice, but I think

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you will be able to do

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so,

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always seek your pleasure and happiness only in one thing

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not in pleasing your friends

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not again,

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seek your happiness and pleasure only and others

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judge everything by we will not repeat.

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And if you please let us know. This should make you have an IF YOU'RE displeased with data, this should make you unhappy and uncomfortable and

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show all the charges

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pressures that will come to you when they come to law very easy for you head on down to the paper and support you and help you and give you agenda

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the procedure

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to pay

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Shall we only have we have about 15 minutes to answer questions and I have at least 2530 now probably 40 questions in front of me

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and so shallow I'm going to try to set separate cells that are of moral nature to be held for the session with shape it has a hell of a challenge that I believe is scheduled

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for four o'clock 4pm today

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the entire session will be questions and answers metalla inshallah. So this will be a better opportunity.

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So some of those questions I'm going to try to put aside

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some very important questions here.

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One is about a heavy

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wet the restaurant is reported to have instructed or have said

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to instructed a woman to prostrate to husband

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decided to burrow on shock or bitter, some say it is authentic, please comment on this. First of all, the Hadith is not exactly the relation of the Hadith, even in English and inshallah the brothers for me with this hadith is very important because we unfortunately we also have this hadith and several others as a justification by some brothers to abuse their wives

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to infect mistreat them. So, this is a very important topic which perhaps are valid you mark and comment on the the degree of the sin of of this and at the same time inshallah giving a commentary on this particular heading.

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We do our best to COVID

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missed, especially

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in this case.

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The consequences of the meaning that you give that can be quite dangerous against the spirit of Islam. That

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was when he was describing the

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the fact that no one has to prostrate to anyone except Allah subhana wa Tada.

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And he said that, if I were to command anyone to pass rate to anyone else, I will command the way to pass rate to her admin because of the rights that he has upon her

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for this

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And it was reported by somebody in the sense that hasn't been heavy, but some are the same.

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Or the same, the wife has a brand new obligation directly towards her husband.

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American society has obligations many times towards,

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towards the mouth towards his work towards his family.

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First and foremost, for the greatest amount of duties, and the person who has the most right upon her, his or her.

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And this is what the processing is describing.

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in this, in this heavy

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banks have lots of rights upon her husband, his wife, and

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the lender has no rights upon the woman is his or her. And that's the meaning of

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I'm sure

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echo seven or eight times I figure you have, you can't hear me.

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Okay. Also, because some sisters apparently complained that they couldn't hear

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feedback.

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This heading obviously implies that the

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has been

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is completely in control of the wife,

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and that

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he has to listen to every one of his suggestions or rooms or whatever the case might be. And if she doesn't, therefore, he has the right to veto or something then

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the husband or the father or the husband as the head of the household.

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being cornered or being the head of the household, this is more responsibility than it is anything else than it is. And as men, we should look at this as a great responsibility. And far

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more than it is some kind of

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right or that that is given. This means that we are responsible for the decisions of the government that will lead them to the alpha we're the ones leading to help I

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will be sent to the Hellfire and Derby family will be agenda because that actually was because of us. That we forced them to go towards the best health that

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means that we are the ones obligated to make sure that we're doing what is best for our family. And for this life ending after this life in the Europe.

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This is actually another topic completely the way of family and Muslim family should be

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should be here and so on. Well. I don't want to get into it right now.

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Another question here is guarding women also should sisters?

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How should sisters perform doubt? Should they go out and do Dallas such as in prisons,

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schools, shelters for women

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in general among the

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Sahaba

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find examples of them

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and, and making doubt

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and generally made out to those people who are close to them.

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Her sister and his sister that

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was the final step of him coming to coming to Islam that if there's a situation

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where there's only women

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involved

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where you can meet privately with women, either in your home or anywhere where islamically proper setting there's nothing there's no prohibition against women, women making Belen listen.

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You had mentioned earlier about

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pressures from the outside in from the inside regarding the Muslim women. One of the biggest pressures is

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again going back to subsistence

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Husbands, husbands do in fact, x their wives to tell their wives not to wear hijab, or to in fact wear something that is stylish.

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and to a lesser degree, some husbands who forbid their wives who would desire to wear the Fayetteville, forbidden from doing so.

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Would you comment

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to the created

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if it involves disobedience to the Creator,

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the person might be in a work relationship you have with that person.

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What is your image

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or the image of the Gemma

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or your father

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or your husband or whatever, if he commands you to do something, which is not Hello, then you do not obey him under any circumstance,

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by a husband, to go out in public

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dress in a way that is not aesthetically correct she she cannot, she should not abandon whatsoever.

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She might be in a situation where she cannot do much but she can, she should do it best to have her husband talk to and have her husband shown

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the way that his boy

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and if he doesn't change, in many circumstances will be better for the woman to ask for divorce than to remain in a situation where she had been forced to do

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that now with respect to the face cover in particular.

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Unfortunately, there is a difference of opinion among the scores.

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Some say it's obligatory to cover the face other things is not obligatory, to go with the face. And so we could get into a situation

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where the man believes it isn't the way to cover the face.

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And the woman believes it.

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So he asked, so he will ask him not to cover her face in public for whatever reason.

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This kind of situation requires some wisdom

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that the man should be seen to be should be made to understand

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that your wife believes you're asking her to do something,

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the man must be shown that

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it is like him asking her to go without.

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So that case, I think the solution is that the man

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or woman decides completely no question that she must cover her face and the other one says no, absolutely not a must.

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There must be a man must realize that if he asked his wife in that case, not to cover her face,

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that he should realize it from her point of view, it was like him asking her to do something

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and you should take that into consideration.

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The best of you are the ones who are best to otherwise.

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Obviously, she feels that something is wrong and she has evidence for it and she has many scars to back her up on her view

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consideration in respect of

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our women's rights with respect to acquiring knowledge, particularly if the husband does not possess enough knowledge teacher

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are the limits with respect to her acquired knowledge without her husband's permission or in his company, such as attending a convention like this without his permission or company

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is this permissible

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knowledge that you're seeking is something which is known as

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if the knowledge that she is seeking is something which is known as for the aid or to somebody obligatory upon her to know

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the benefits of the deen apivita police which is supposed to believe in all aspects

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related to how to pray and performance of author obligations and so forth. Then, in fact, the Muslim Allah said that this is an obligation upon her which takes precedence over husband's rights over with her.

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And they say clearly that in general, the woman is not allowed to leave the house without the husband's permission but it's in in this case

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If she cannot get the knowledge at home,

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if she cannot get the knowledge at home, and the only way she can get the knowledge is by attending a particular lecture, for example, in the mall, she has the right to leave her house without her husband's permission.

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But now that might be different. I didn't see any scholars that she has the right to travel, for example, she goes halfway across the world to attend the conference.

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The presenter within the city, if there's a lecture in the Mothman is pertaining to it to some knowledge that she has to know, she has the right to leave them off, to leave her house without her husband's permission. That is how important knowledge is in Islam.

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And of course, the the I guess the easiest way to to assess your life is not to let her know her rights and what she can do. But then it's not the other way. Because even if you try to keep her she has the right to vote in a situation that has been for example, a Punisher

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any way he or any way he is the one who is committing the sin. He is the one who should be running

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the line, shall I that would be the app the final question and expect the next session to begin at 10 asked a lot to read our brother Jamal Dean for his

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lecture today. And inshallah, just as a side point, I'd rather mentioned several publications or a particular publication, as an example, where you find many things which are written, that affect attacking the status of Muslim women in the guise of being for Muslim women. And there are many books of this nature. And he has discussed several of their arguments, these arguments are repeated over and over again. And in some of them even even lesser of even lesser stature or people of even lesser respect. So I would just like to mention, just briefly, that

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the books you may read, in particular, such as the liberation of women through Islam, in which the author says, as Jamal pointed out, that the veil is something that did not appear until 150 years after the death of hospital law. So the law says

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that, for example, women in another book of this particular author, women can be imams in need of Joomla for example, for the men.

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This author also his Islam has come into question in effect is not in question regarding the

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ruling of some scholars, he's gone so far as to deny the return of Acer leads to them or the appearance of the MACD or the other dejenne as is related in the ad in the ad, which are over 190 sound ad

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related on this matter. And this particular office name is called Kip Sadiq and he has been billed and has been as a champion of women. And I mentioned it only because one of the tactics which he uses is that brothers who come and sisters who come to a conference such as this, are automatically accused of if they in fact speak a little Arabic,

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if they are in attendance with shaves, or scholars from the Arab speaking world, that they are accused of being of a particular traditional backward mind.

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So inshallah, throughout this, throughout these lectures by our distinguished guests, such as our brother janella Dean challenge should be clear to us that we base our opinion not because of our own whims or our opinions, but those things which are sounding authenticated and proven, as opposed to the methodology of those who tried to bring rational arguments, particularly in regard to Muslim women to try to justify whatever idea they have. They bring their proof from the ad, or from the Sunnah, nor do they interpret them according to a way that is correct, according to the method of our self oppressed predecessors, and those scholars who follow them to this day, a lot

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of stuff that allows them to pile up a lot more they have to go shadow Laila

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hamdulillah sallallahu, ala nabina, Muhammad in early

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concepts of hate,

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and

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actually it is

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the most important

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pillar of the hate

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is

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the love and

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the glorification and magnification or phrasing of the last panel with that

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is the basis of his submission to Allah panels Allah rests on this fact to

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have the

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special love, which is the love, of worship the love which leads to third cell submission, having a poor loss of animal with Allah alone and not associating anyone with ALLAH regarding this kind of love as a last panel to add I said, well being a nurse eat me definitely will mean doing Illa E and dead and a boon bounnam Bella amongst the people are those

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who sit rivals with Allah by loving them like loving Allah, animal with Allah.

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So Allah subhana wa tada

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has made it clear in this verse that

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assigning this special love, which is only to be for Allah assigning it for other than Allah is making him arrival with a last panel with Allah making him an associate with Allah, Netherlands. This is a great ship, which takes someone completely out of the religion of Islam.

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This kind of love, which is the love of worship

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means the kind of love which leads to total submission to someone.

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You will love someone to the degree that you totally submit to Him, they are human everything.

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Think of him in a way that he does not deserve.

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Because he is a creature and he is a human thinking him the thinking of him in a way, which is only special on the last panel with Allah.

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This is the kind of love which is considered to be shared if you assign it with, for other than Allah and with that.

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I have to proceed reverse Of course he is a verse, which is the best or the greatest verse in the book of Allah.

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It establishes this back of Calvin for the last panel with Allah.

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This verse, perhaps needs an explanation

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needs at least a lecture by itself. But what we want to know from this verse

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is the

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greatness of the last panel with Allah.

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And

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from that, we must know how the Muslim loves Allah subhanaw taala based on that greatness.

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In this verse, Allah subhanho wa Taala shows his greatness by explaining that

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He is the Lord.

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The lordship means the ownership and the kingship. And the master would Allah Subhana Allah says clearly that no one has a say in his creatures, and no one owns anything.

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inheritance or an ad. All the ownership is to Allah, Allah and all the control is brought the last panel with that.

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This shows the greatness of a lifetime to Allah because no one else owns anything besides Him.

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Everything else and everyone else is owned by Him.

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And He is the creator of the last panelist

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has a seat or a decision besides a lightsaber and his decision, not even the most honorable and great angels of a lucky animal.

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Not even the Prophet of Allah, or the prophets of Allah have any say Besides, you save a lot of with Allah.

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As you know, when the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam

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was injured in the Battle of

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his

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son, some of his teeth were broken and he was injured and he was bleeding and the Muslims were defeated.

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The Prophet sallallahu wasallam raised his hand to Allah, asking him to

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reconsider against diecasts

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last panels Allah revealed the rails. Lay silica in an MVC area to Valley

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You have no say, in our decision, unless Allah is telling his prophet that you have no say, it is all up to me a last panel with that, to punish them or to forgive them, and that make them repent and accept their repentance. And as you know, most of those mushriks became Muslims. They became leaders of Islam. Like father didn't worry, who was the leader of the battle against Muslims in office, he was the one who planned the victory of the mushriks against the Muslims. He remained the son of a Buddha and many other

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mushriks at that time, became leaders of Muslims. Later on, actually all of the mushriks at that time became Muslims later on.

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So

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the last panel, Diana, is killing his Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam that you have no say in our decision, or in my decision.

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So if the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam the most honorable, and the master of all Prophets, and the best amongst all prophets, has no say in the decision of Allah. Then who is to have any say, in the decision of Allah, and what that

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also, in this verse, we find the last panel with Allah is saying that no one can intercede with him, except after his permission.

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Now, imposition, is a position which is much lower than position, or ownership.

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The last panel to add in the first part of the verse said, no one owns anything besides, no one owns even an atom. Then Allah subhanaw taala is saying that no one can intercede with you

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that is coming to a last panel to Allah approach Alas, anata Allah and ask him or beg him to forgive this and that person or to do this or that. last panel, Tyler said, no one can intercede with a left panel to add except after permission.

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And you know that the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam, who again,

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is the most honorable person with the last panel with Allah.

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He will come in the Day of Judgment, knowing that Allah has allowed him to intercede for all mankind,

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he will come and prostrate under the throne of the last panel to Allah and not say anything else except praising Allah as teachers and then the phrases which are suitable for that position. The Prophet sallallahu Sallam says, I will come and prostrate under the throne of the last panel to Allah and I will be praising him with basil that he will inspire me then.

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So, he will not intercede. He did not say I will come to I will approach Allah and intercede. No, he says I will come and first rate under the throne of the last panel with Adam and only praising until our last panel to Allah says oh Mohammed, raise your head

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and you will be given, intercede and your intercession will be accepted.

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So the Prophet sallallahu Sallam will only intercede when Allah asked him to raise his head and ask and proceed. Therefore, the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam will intercede for all mankind.

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Another intercession which is special,

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only part of this nation and that is the centers of this nation. The Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam will intercede for those who died with major sins, that they did not repent from the Prophet sallallahu Sallam will come and intercede.

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How would he intercede? The Prophet salallahu alaihe salam says Allah would make a bound for me or a limit that I can intercede within.

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Meaning that Allah will tell the messenger sallallahu wasallam or Mohammed, intercede for such and such and such

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those pests and diseases and it's just an honor for the Prophet sallallahu to send them the intercession is all for our last panel to add

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As Allah says in his book,

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from Lila Isha akademia all the intercession belongs to Allah Allah. No one has any share in it.

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So Allah Allah will tell the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam to intercede for

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a limited number of people, served a number of people, I met intercede for such and such people,

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then another bound will be will be made a law who then intercede for such and such people and so on. This is to show the greatness of the last animal with Allah

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also and this this one can feel the greatness of the last panel with Allah or at least

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some feeling of it.

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When the last panel with the Allah explains about his great creature, because he was yakushi you somehow you will have

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the courtesy or receipt of the last panel with Allah

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is a huge creature that Allah subhana wa tada has created. And in this verse, Allah, Allah says that his quota seat is so large, that all heavens and all Earth

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small compared to

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any, if they are compared to the kursi then they will be very small.

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The courtesy of Allah subhanho wa Taala is different than before the throne is a huge creature.

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The Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said that the example of the

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the seven heavens and the heir to the Kersey is like a small piece of metal compared to a whole desert.

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And the example of the courtesy to the throne of the last panel data is like the example of a small piece of metal compared to a whole visit.

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So you can see that the courtesy of the last panel to Allah is so huge, knowing that the heavens and seven heavens

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so huge, because those hints include

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a very large number of angels who no one knows but the last panel with

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the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said,

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the heavens have been shaken and they must, they must be shaking, because there is no space of as much as four fingers except that there is an angel prostrating to a large planet. In other words, between each Angel and another, only a space of four fingers. Those heavens are full of angels. First their thing for Allah Subhana Allah

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and the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said that in the first heaven

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that there is a obey tool Mahmoud the house which the angels make the law, they just like the cabin, will we make the life around certain

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circumference they call it

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the baby mama and Heather's

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is made to further angels to make the laugh and to glorify Allah, Allah. The Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said that 70,000 angels make around that house every day and they don't come the next day. In other words 70,000 who are totally different from the ones who came yesterday will come next day and so on. So this shows the large number of angels of a large animal with that.

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They are it's not that they are not in number. But they are also some of them are very huge loss of animal with Allah sent debris rally