Channel: Isam Rajab
Special course by Yayasan Ta’lim & Arees University. Conducted by Dr Isam Rajab. HISTORY OF AQIDAH (session 5)
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today inshallah we will conclude with the history of al Qaeda
and we have two
remaining sects that are
or were common
at the time.
Now, we have some of them some of the followers not as a brand but they have the same ideology. So the first one is the Mata Zilla
and the second one is a Shara.
Regarding the Mata Zilla? Do you remember what we said last time?
Where did this name come from? How this group was established?
You don't remember?
Yes, not reading. Because if you read now, and we already mentioned that last week, after two months how you will remember.
So where did the name Mark asila come from?
to abandon to leave out that as just like you when you dismiss something, as Allah who remove someone from a position that's as an Ozma in Arabic, it means isolation.
seclusion, these are all names. So the
beginning was on the hands of Walsall, Eben appa
was the Liberata he used to be a student of an Hassan bursary.
And then he
left, the group hasn't mostly had a lot of followers. For a long time, he was a student of Al Hassan vasilich. Then he left him. So lesson number three says, as Elena was, was to lift us. So that's how it began, on the end of was 11.
historically, you don't have to I mean, all the details are mentioned here.
About the beginning of Tesla, but mainly, what do they believe in? They have what we call the five principles.
The five principles of Tesla, that that's what
single remount these five principles, the first one is at the heat, what's the meaning of the heat?
It is the oneness of Allah subhanaw taala. But in their terms, what does it mean? That's the thing because
almost all live insects, they take a beautiful name, and they use it to their advantage. Actually, historically, at one point, there was a group called Elmo.
Elmo was a group
in Libya and Morocco to fight the Islamic State that was there, and more of
those more hidden. They were given sect, but they call themselves more hidden. Again, sometimes, names are deceiving. So Amanda Zilla data feed means what? denying the attributes of Allah subhana wa Taala.
Why? Now here's the question, why denying the attributes of Allah subhanaw taala.
To them, Allah exists, he is existing. Unlike other things, that's what they say. So they try to glorify Allah by denying all the attributes why they say that? affirming the attributes to Allah subhanaw taala is likening him to his creation and likening Allah to creation when you equalize creator with creation that's goofer. So that's why they denied all the attributes of Allah subhanaw taala.
That's about their principle
of authority. Then they have the second principle which they call it, a ladder of
Justice to them means that there is no other.
What does that mean?
Allah would not,
would not authorize evil actions. These are from the humans themselves.
Again, the same as an argument of atheist who would say, I cannot believe in God that allows murders to happen for innocent children. How do you answer that?
Would you as a human being? Would you allow an innocent child to be killed? While you are able to stop that?
Yes or No, you wouldn't. So how would you say Allah is most merciful and still allow that to happen?
Allah knows what we don't know. That's true. But I need to know now you tell me.
You have to understand how the other works. I think I spoke about that. Do you know the four levels of other
inori? Don't know, I'm asking you. Okay, if you don't know, tell me so I can tell you. There are four levels of that's how that works. Now, this is not really our subject, but you need to understand it. So I tried to briefly the first level is knowledge.
Emma loves Hana what Allah, Allah knew what's going to happen before it happens.
Because the knowledge of Allah subhana wa Taala
has no limits.
Okay, 40,000 years before our creation, Allah knew when we are created what we're going to do.
So the knowledge of Allah subhanaw taala. So fast is everything.
When Allah subhana wa Taala
knew that this is what you're going to do, he wrote that nothing happens without it being written.
The tablet, and Allahumma for everything is written there. People now when they say I did it, because it was written on me.
It was written on you not
that you were forced to do it, but it was written on you because the law knew what you're going to do.
Just like now, if I know that there is an exam, I tell you, there is an exam of 100 questions. And I asked you one question, and you cannot answer. That's the easiest question and you didn't answer. And I asked you did you study and you say, No, I tell you, you will not pass the exam. That doesn't mean I forced you to fail. But I knew you didn't study so I knew you are going to fail. When you fail. You cannot come and say You made us fail. Because you didn't study. This is kind of similar. Allah knew what's going to happen. So he wrote it. It's not the other way around, that Allah wrote, what's going to happen. So it happened. The third level which is very important, allowing things to
does not let anything happened without his permission.
Again, here comes the question, how Allah gave permission to evil things to happen.
If nothing happens without permission of Allah, how Allah allowed evil things to happen.
Allowing things to happen, doesn't mean approving of them, or liking them.
That is the thing.
Allowing things to happen. Just like the kuffaar Allah says in the Quran, in the truth in the law.
If you disbelieve, you should know that Allah is not in need of you, while you're in a bad Kufa, yet he does not approve of this belief. He doesn't want it but he allowed it. That's what Allah says. Allah does not want comfort from people. Allah does not want this belief, but he allowed it.
So allowing something to happen, doesn't mean that Allah approves of it. So here comes the confusion. Don't be confused. Don't say Oh Allah allowed it.
How come Allah allow something evil? Allah allowed it doesn't mean a lot wanted it.
This is justice. Because if Allah does not allow things, then he forces you to do things then where he is.
Where is the accountability? So, nothing we do that we are forced to do it. We have
our freewill to do things and that's where we are held accountable, anything that we don't have choice, we will not be asked about it. So therefore, here comes now the justice to them just this means that evil actions are the responsibility of human beings, not Allah, Allah is just he doesn't allow evil to happen. So that's, that's their
belief. The second belief or the third principle about a large worldwide promise and threat, punishment.
mentioned in the Quran,
that the adulterer
the killer will have gray punishment. What does that mean?
On the day of judgment, how it is capital punishment.
Here, this dunya is the equal punishment is the capital punishment, but in the Hereafter, when Allah is the one who does that, he has a great punishment, painful punishment. What does that mean?
What will happen on the day of judgment? Okay, I'll repeat the question.
Anyone who committed a sin major or minor will definitely be punished.
Anyone who committed a major sin or a minor nursing will definitely be punished?
Yeah, didn't repent.
Yes. So what is the mercy of Allah subhanaw taala?
What is the mercy of Allah subhanaw taala.
We say that's the belief of our listener,
the one who committed a sin, based on the evidence from the Quran based on what Allah said, that's what he deserves of punishment. But the actual punishment itself whether it's going to happen or not, that's up to Allah subhana wa Taala whether Allah will forgive or will punish that.
His choice, no one can force Allah subhanaw taala. So we cannot say that definitely. Anybody, everybody who committed a major sin will be punished. No.
We say maybe it's in the hands of Allah. The martensville on the other hand, say no, a law said, this is the punishment so it will happen. No, not necessarily. Yes, the man is deserving punishment. The woman is deserving punishment. But it could and it could not be happening. That's a last decision, not our decision. Okay, so this is an area also where a sauna differed from
The main principle is elmen silibinin Manzil attain arranque in between two ranks. And that was the main reason why Mata Zilla formed why was Sullivan appa left? The group of Alison al Hassan Al basri, and the others,
the one who committed major sin. What's the ruling on him? Or her one who committed major sin? What's literally
still Muslim or not Muslim? Still Muslim?
Who said not a Muslim,
however, is very good. But Amata Zilla they have an in between opinion
in this dunya he is still a Muslim and has the rulings of the Muslim so not like how are it but on the Day of Judgment what will happen?
The one who committed major sin he's in Hellfire eternally. Why? What did the law say about the killer?
Well, my yoke Minamata me then he who kills deliberately a believer for Jesu, his penalty. Jana, his penalty is jahannam Hellfire Holly then fee her will be there forever. Well, not Viva La Holly.
The Wrath of Allah is upon him. Well Anna when the lockers thing, well at the level of an army man prepared for him great punishment. So they say that's a major sin, but it's like goofer. So on the Day of Judgment, the main the sinners who committed major sins they are aware,
Hellfire forever. What do our listeners say?
Exactly, not only that, this is what the man deserves, but a lot good forgive,
just like the one who made or did a good deed a lot may not reward him.
The Justice of Allah subhanaw taala is not enough for any of us to enter Paradise. Because the justice of Allah means that for one blessing he gave us we should worship Allah more than 500 years.
One blessing like the eyesight more than 500 years. So how will enter Paradise it's the mercy of Allah subhanaw taala that's what the prophet SAW Selim said all of us. So just like Allah may not allow someone to enter Paradise also Allah may allow a sinner and will allow actually many narrations came that the forgiveness of Allah, the mercy of Allah overcame his wrath and the mercy of Allah is greater than his punishment. So a lot of people will be forgiven. So it's not necessarily that they will be punished
Okay, this is another principle.
The final principle the fifth one is about an admirable model for
enjoying the good and
forbidding the evil
for us, what are the levels of enjoining the good if you saw something evil, what should you do? What are the steps
stay away is that what you do?
You try to start with how
stopping the evil with your action is not your responsibility unless you are a person of authority
in your family, you can do that as a person of authority. Outside industry, you cannot do that unless you are authorized by the state the government whoever is in control, okay? But not asila say no, it's your responsibility
to carry arms. So they are similar here to what sect what the the insect
Okay. Now, these are their five principles.
As a sect, as a group, we don't have it anymore in our time.
But the ideology is still there with some people. You ask them about mainly the fact of Allah subhanaw taala. The names and attributes of Allah subhanaw taala. And they give you the opinion of martyrs, Allah they say Allah.
They confirm the name, Rahim. Most Gracious, they confirm elbasy.
All senior but without vision, they deny the vision. They say if we confirm the vision, we are likening a lot of the creation. So this group, the peak of this group, the time of the peak of this group was at the time of moon,
the ambassador Khalifa because he adopted their opinion. At his time, there was a man by the name of Bishop mrec, Bishop in re F. Michelle muricy, was
close to Mr. Moon moon.
And this is again the influence of the state when any country any political side, adopts a religious opinion, it will be
spread out everywhere and that's what happened at the time of Alabama.
And because of that, Arizona were persecuted mainly Imam Ahmed, and Allah and other scholars. Why because of one issue, and I told you that last time, the issue of the Quran is the Quran created or it is not created
the Quran so, you're telling me that this is not created?
Yeah, the Quran, the word of Allah is not created. That's what you say they are and the word of Allah is not created. So at the time of El mamoun,
many of the scholars of under sadhana they had to agree with mamoun out of fear of punishment, because he was forcing them you either
agree to what I say. And basically it was not to say he was not a scholar. Yes, he had knowledge, but it was
in rehab and mercy and other people, the from this deviant sect, and there was a very famous story. I don't know if you'll have time to mention this story, a debate that took place
between one of the Imams of under Summa Abdulaziz Venetia, and key nanny from the tribe of Kiana and this man we should have been here. And this shows how the scholars they will have to sacrifice their own life just to
speak the truth. Because mourn was
very aggressive with this statement. Anybody who disagreed was either punished or killed. The management Rahim Allah He was punished also and Mahmoud said if he will not change his opinion, I will bring him in front of me and I will kill him
and pray to Allah subhanaw taala to put something between him and moon and a lot responded, before his arrival, Gemini moon passed away.
But after a lot of punishment, and this punishment continued, after a moon, on the hands of Al Matheson, imagine the Khalifa is sponsoring the punishment, not only
turning the face from the torture that is done, but actually sponsoring it, and confirming it and telling the people following up on them. This is what happened to me. So this man applies is
he was very upset with that he wanted to do something but he couldn't. He said anyone who would even speak before his statement was made clear he would be either killed or taken to prison. And their prisons at their times. Were not like Now, some of their prisons were actually Well, you see the well where you bring, they will drop them there and rot to death. That's what happened to some people. So he thought of brilliant idea.
He was from Mecca of Nazism and yahia Rahim Allah, he was from Makkah, he went about that, but that is the capital, he went with his son. He chose the time when people are a lot.
Nowadays, if you want people to listen to you, you can choose to go to media stations, but they not necessarily will give you the time, or will listen to you. So he chose the point where he will, he will be able to spread his word as much as possible. And that was on Friday.
He chose the largest Masjid. And he told his son to sit in the other side. He waited immediately after the man finished the hotbar on Friday, and he jumped from the first row. And he asked his son, my son, what do you say about the Koran? He said, it's the word of Allah not created. Everybody in the message ran away. Why? Because again, they were
aware of the situation, if you say anything like that, you might be killed or tortured. So they didn't want to do anything with that. They were afraid. And they were the soldiers of the halifa. So they came and they took him. They took him first to the deputy, he told him what
caused you to say this? Are you mad? Is there insanity? Do you have problem? He said, No. I did that deliberately. I want to please Allah subhanaw taala. He said, Are you having different agendas, you want to reach the halifa? So you would ask him for money? He said, No. He said, Be careful. Because if you do that, once you reach the halifa, you will be killed. If that's your intention, he said, No, I only want to spread the truth. He said you have to be careful because when you go to the halifa, you will not be given a second chance you can now declare your repentance and maybe he'll forgive you said no. So he went there to my moon. And he told them my moon. I want to tell the
truth, to speak the truth.
Bring the most knowledgeable person and let him have a debate with me. So he brought Michel de Medici.
So before they start the debate, and this is a lesson for all of
When we want to have discussion, we have to agree on certain points. So what is the basis? What is the mutual ground? He told him, You
give me evidences from the Quran and I give you evidence from the Quran
none the interpretation, you have first to believe in what this is, if you don't believe in the idea, we cannot go to the interpretation. So they said they agreed. So the first question we should have told him
Do you say for an is a thing or not a thing.
If you say it is a thing, then
you agree that it is created.
And if you say it's not the thing you disbelieve, because the Quran mentioned that everything other than Allah subhanaw taala is the thing. So which one is it?
What do you think? Is it or isn't not the tough question?
So do you say the Quran is the thing or not the thing?
Is the current thing or not the thing? It's not a thing? It's nothing.
What do you say
messages is hypothetical or something?
Is it something or not something?
It is something okay, so Allah says in the Quran, Allah who Holly kukuli say, Allah is the Creator of everything. Is this a thing or not a thing if you say a thing it's created
that's what the law says. See, don't think it's easy those people they don't just say things without having evidence but how you can respond to that.
What do you say now?
So you are all believing in the opinion of Mata Zilla?
Well give me a give me a proof. Give me a proof. It's not enough because people out there even now some people have deviant sex. They have evidences from the Quran you need to know how to respond to that. So what do you say?
Exactly creation of Allah. So it is created.
By Allah everything's created by Allah. Allah soon agree that this is this belief.
If you say Quran is created, that's this belief, that schofer
because he cannot seek refuge with something created.
It's the word of Allah and the word of Allah not created. The words of Allah has created, his attributes are not created. But what do you say about that from the Quran? You see every time Allah subhanho wa Taala mentioned the Quran, he didn't mention the creation of the Quran, like in Surah Rahman urashima.
What did he say?
The second Isaiah.
He didn't say hello. And immediately after that, what did he say? Hello, I can
see it would be easier to say hello, or animal insane. It's really easier but that's not what Allah said. That's one thing. So the response of Amanda glasses was it is a thing, not like things.
So Misha told him what are you saying this is nonsense? If you say it's a thing it's created, he said, No, it's not nonsense. It is a thing. Unlike things, it is a thing but not created. He fought back as he refuted this question by asking him what do you say about Allah?
What about Allah?
our Creator, Allah in the Quran said and again we need to go back always to the Quran. We read the Quran, but where are the
evidences. Allah says in the Quran, you say in America say what thing is greater in destiny? This is sort of like
a U shape in America.
Does anyone know this? I will I use a bottle Shahada only say, Allah,
Allah. So Allah subhanaw taala called himself thing in the Quran. But can you say Allah has created the villa? No. So he told him for me is a thing, unlike things is not created.
So Allah is the Creator of everything
that is created, but the Quran is not created. So that was
response. They went from one evidence to another evidence until Bishop could not fight anymore because there is no single ayah. In the Quran says that the Quran is created. He told him he told him the call now you are recently calling people for this statement that the Quran is created. He said this is something essential from the religion or something insignificant. He said, No, this is part of the religion. He said, if it's part of the religion shouldn't or should the prophets I seldom have conveyed that.
If you say he should have conveyed, that there is no evidence, so you are accusing the prophet SAW Selim of not doing a good job.
And if you say it is an important thing, but the prophet SAW Selim did not conveyed Who are you now to come and convey this and to tell the people that did you know something more than the Prophet sallallahu Sallam?
So this is the argument you will not find a single evidence for the deviant sex
regarding this statement, so about the Quran again, you can you can look it up this debate, but you need to I don't know if it's translated to English, but it's available in Arabic. Very beautiful debate between Imam Abdul Aziz al Kenan and Michel Medici. Anyways, so that's Amata Zilla
from a lotta Zilla Kamalesh IRA. Allah shadow last div insect.
And LSI era is the most common one. And unfortunately, many people they call them who sooner they're not unassuming. They are ashara.
They are a child as soon as a child
what the name comes from where does it come from? LSR.
They are called after their Eman. I will have some LSR
from the tribe of Shire
those people come from were originally from Yemen. Some of them were from the companions of the Prophet salon, sort of like Abu Salah sorry, have you heard this name? masala Shara is a companion of the prophet SAW Selim. So they come from there. So that's where the name comes from Alessandra from Abu Hassan allegedly, he was a student of one of the big martyrs Zilla at his time, Avaya Dubai. for 40 years, he was teaching the principles of Methuselah. Then he came to the conclusion that and my Tesla is not arrived.
group so he formed his own group. And they were called after him LSI
that's how the name came. But even I will have some the legendary Rahim Allah. After teaching the
OSI principles, he himself changed, but many of his followers didn't change.
He went through three phases of will happen naturally first, he was motorcity just like multizilla then he formed LS IRA, where many people followed him, then he went back to the method of wireless sooner, sooner, but very few people followed him then again you change one time, then a second time then the third time. So that's actually what happened. Nowadays you have some people follow a shower, they are following a man who himself does not believe in what is taught anymore.
This is what happened. So what they believe in they believe in seven
and either the will of Allah subhanho wa Taala Allah Audra the ability of Allah subhanho wa Taala.
As summer elbasan they are all there in the in the notes you don't have to
flip the pages and try to find them. You will find them there.
you found them
where do these and that's what concerns us not the many details you have them in the notes. Where do these statements come from? Even Mata Zina
even a shadow?
What caused them to deviate?
I mentioned that one time last week maybe or the week before
they refer first to what
and as soon as we go first were when we want to have an evidence where do we go?
For and and sooner? That comes first right? To them, they don't go first there they believe in Quran and Sunnah. But they go first where
to the accurate to the logic, and that's the main problem.
That's the main problem. They say a lack of preparedness over animals over angels over everyone with the apple, we have the ability, so we use that.
But what if your judgment is not sound? That's the thing? What if it's not right? So they say, the good can be identified by
our article, whatever we deem good is good.
Whatever we deem evil is evil. But as soon as say whatever Allah says, is good, that's good. They say we cannot believe that. Allah created our apple, and gave us the ability to distinguish and we see something, we think it's evil, and yet it's not evil. That's their belief. So when it comes to the shadow, when it comes to the shadow, they say these are the seven attributes that we can attribute to Allah Allah Kalam speech without words, of course, they approve of a word, but without
So now what do they say? They say, we approve and confirm what the last panatela said about himself.
Without without going into details of how how
what can we call Maxim's. And as soon as we have general Maxim's, and that will make it very easy for us to follow. The first Maxim.
The evidence is these I add about the attributes and the names of Allah are like the evidences of the hereafter.
That's an important Maxim, what does that mean?
Do we know exactly how things will happen on the day of judgment?
Like there is a Surat?
Have you heard about the syrup? What is syrup?
bridge? How big is that bridge?
It's like a hair.
Who can walk over here?
But do we believe or we don't believe how.
Exactly that's the same thing when an idea comes about Allah subhanho wa Taala. We believe in it what Allah said he knows himself more than anyone else more than us. We believe in it. How? You don't know.
We don't say
we will not believe in this idea. Because if we believe in this idea, we're likely in a lot of creation. No, we believe in the idea. But how that's what we don't know. Okay, so does Allah speak or he doesn't speak? He speaks? How? We don't know. We don't know. The evidence came that Allah speaks. And his speech has a voice prophet SAW Selim said without any a smell of the Day of Judgment, his speech will be heard.
How is that possible? We don't know. does Allah have a hand? Yes.
Is it like our hands? No, going there is likening a lot of the creation. And that's where we cannot go. But we confirm the attributes. Why? Because that's what came in the Quran. So that's Maxim number one.
The evidences of names and attributes of Allah like the evidences of the unseen
Jenna, how big is the gentleman?
What about Hellfire?
Does it exist? You show there is hellfire.
Did you see it? No, but it is there. Because some deep insects like the philosophers, they said there is no Jenna or hellfire. It's only metaphor to make you do good. And start from evil. That's all. It's to make things easy for you to follow. But we believe that they are there. Did you see them? No. Do we know how they are? We don't know. We believe in what was mentioned in the evidence, that's all. So that's maximum number of Maxim number two.
Just like we believe Allah does exist.
Because of the evidences. We believe also that Allah has names and attributes, we cannot one and leave the rest.
Allah told us about himself that he is one. Allah told us that he is ever living everlasting. All seer of nor we believe in that same thing, we believe in the names and attributes attribute in your face attribute in your hand. Whatever came in the Quran or Sunnah of the prophet SAW Selim, we believe in it. Again, going back to how that's where we do not go. Maximum number three,
one attribute is like the other. What does that mean? A shadow how many attributes they chose? Seven, seven attributes. What about the rest?
Why they didn't they said this is what is necessary by necessity This is what is necessary to Allah again, they went back to what the logic to the Apple, we say no, all attributes are alike.
Because one of them came from the Quran. The other one also came from the Quran, On what grounds you choose one and you eliminate the other it was only here so we don't believe in that all attributes are alike. So when you follow these Maxim's it will be very easy.
Again, if you go back to the history, you will find a lot of scholars, but that was common. That's what was common. That the school of thought of a child so forth, so they followed it, but that's not an excuse. Same thing we have a sooner all great amounts, you will never find an Imam like Imam Shafi Allah He management, Imam, Abu hanifa Imam Malik, you will never find any of them said that the attributes of Allah seven and the rest is not confirmed. Never. So their basis you read 200 pages book from the shadow you will not find an IRA. But you read the books of aqidah of value sooner every page or every few pages you have several evidences. Why because we go back first and
foremost, we're to the Quran and Sunnah. That's what we do. That's what we believe. So this is a lesson for all of us. Anything that is said? We go back first To what? To the Quran and Sunnah. Nowadays, just like before, people have catchy and Beautiful Names, deceiving names, and they say we're going back to the Quran true, but according to whose understanding is it according to the understanding of the pious predecessors, or it is according and use a new understanding that you invented? That is the difference, because we have a path that we follow. So a child you will never find a single ayah confirming what they say, or Hadith or a single companion.
But the great demands always, they say what a single believing that the names and attributes of Allah are true. Just like Allah Subhana Allah describes himself, just like the prophet SAW, Selim described a Laszlo gel. He knows a lot more than any human being. So that's what he said, we believe in that. How we don't know. Some scholars like Imam Malik. He was very upset with the man who asked Manuela laughs she's
the most merciful rose above the Throne, how he rose over the throne.
He said, rising is known.
And how is unknown? And asking this question is with that, and he told the man to leave. He was he didn't tolerate that. Why? Because it was a new thing to ask how, or to use this as an excuse to deny the names and attributes of Allah subhanaw taala.
Nowadays, some people say oh, we don't understand what does it mean? So we will deny it? No. Just because you don't understand something. It doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And I gave you this example, maybe first class, this
If somebody is waiting for it, enjoy her now in just like that and it is there Can you do it?
Can you or Can't you do it?
You cannot do it panela why
somebody is waiting now this instant
Is it possible
in a blink of an eye that this would be there?
Is it possible
Allah how if Allah wills anything it will happen but how this it didn't already happen it did already happen the throne well peace it was just like that and it's there but for us just because we don't know how it's going there It doesn't mean that it doesn't happen doesn't mean that it's not possible. So remember that
and this inshallah we conclude the
course of sex of aqidah
I hope through the five sessions, you thought of some current ones if there are some demon sets nowadays what are the similarities or differences? Because our purpose is always to go back to the Quran and Sunnah. It's unfortunate that every few years every now and then we have some people who come with new crazy ideas and they say this is the Quran or this is the true following of the Sunnah of the prophet SAW center we always go back to the Quran and the Sunnah. Any questions?
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What do Sophie's do in modern days, what are their practices? What are their appearance look like?
They vary we have a huge Sufi Muslims in our time. There is a big community
in Syria that are Sophie's in almost everywhere in Egypt everywhere but some of them are extreme. Some of them are not some of them they just have extra things like extra ways of remembering Allah subhanaw taala and groups and some of them know they have extreme following that they believe in certain things.
So we didn't talk about Sufism, it was a concern. It was something that maybe just because of the time otherwise we could have another session only about Sufism. Mainly mainly you'll find them wearing the green color turban, but that doesn't mean anyone who wears it that Sufi
You find them again they sit together in groups they remember Allah subhanaw taala turn of the light sometimes certain and some of them they have even dancing
Yeah, even this tradition is different from one place to another I don't know if you have people here they do that but in Syria there are people do that. They stand up together, they're just like dancing. Is this something from the Quran? Is this how you come close to Allah subhanaw taala? Because Is this how the prophet SAW Selim told us to remember Allah? What again? They say we remember Allah at all times in all shapes in all forms. So we stand and we remember Allah we sit and Ramallah and and so on and so forth.
If you see your close relatives practice Shia in their worship, how do you interact with them?
Their mind I think already closed
cannot do our to them. No, you can never, ever
lose hope never. There will be always, even if you say their mind is close.
You still have responsibility.
Then responding to you, that's not your responsibility, but you giving them the power, that's your responsibility. So you tell them, you need to go back. What caused that to happen? This is first, what caused that to happen.
And then you start with one simple thing. We always go back to the Quran and Sunnah. They're following based on emotion, because the shiana they are smart. They focus on emotions and logic.
Both of them are good, but in harmony with the Quran and Sunnah. And what they do they take them out of the Quran and Sunnah.
So they are smart by using logic. Don't you love a little bait? They are the family of the prophets. I send them Shouldn't they be the closest children, they be the first to rule. And so that's how they start. So you need to go back to see what caused that. What are they following? Exactly? If it is only some practices, the matter is not really dangerous. Yes, you have to be careful. But if it is practices as long as it's not the belief, the belief is what is a
big problem. their belief that the 12 imams are the Imams, their belief in the family or the law on their belief that the Qur'an is altered. That's the dangerous thing.
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is that right or that?
I pray with the Hanafi madhhab way of jamaah of Casa de
Shafi madhhab way is it okay.
Yes. When it comes to prayer, it's not really a big deal. Not a lot of differences between the four exams. So if you follow one Eman And then you are praying alone, you continue that but if any man came and you're behind the Imam, you follow him. So if he follows the Shafi you follow that to follow what the man prays
is the end effect. What are their beliefs
deobandis well as the SEC, they started not really as a sec. Because Deobandi is a place. It is a location, okay. And they are followers of the Hanafi school of thought. That's how they are. So we cannot say about the schools of thought they are sex. But what happened again, this is overtime. Throughout the time, they started becoming extreme in their practices, and in their belief, until they had like a collection of Sufi beliefs in terms of Vicar, they have some shadowy beliefs. So you could say yes, in our time currently they are a sect.
There is a group of people who claim they are the descendants of
are their practices deviant. depending what are their practices, because there are people not only claim, but it's confirmed they are descendants of the Prophet sallallahu wasallam. They are Shia. So the practices are evil, the King of Jordan, he has a confirmed three family tree to the prophet SAW Selim, that doesn't grant anyone automatically purification, because hamdulillah even relatives of the prophet SAW Selim at this time were this believers. So those descendants, what do they follow exactly? of the cardinal jail, and he was a great man. Many things attributed to him are not true, actually. It was a great amount of our listener. So if their practices are correct, fine. If it's
not correct, then those people should be followed.
It's not really about the people themselves, but it's more about the practice that is done the actions
and other questions?
Yes. So we come across someone who's not from the same background as us. How do you suggest like treating them and how to interact with them. If you meet someone that isn't, isn't on the same wavelength as you
We do that all the time. We have people not only on the same school of thought, but a different religion. So we interact with them during or through the deviance, what they believe is deviant. That's where we don't follow them, or we don't agree Other than that, it's okay. And in the past, at the time of the pious predecessors, they said you have to abandon the deviant?
Yes, at a certain time, that was the case. Now, it's not practical anymore. And asuna are not visible that these are a listener. So if we just abandon everyone, it's not a viable solution. So you interact with them. You make it clear that you disagree with the deviance that they do, but other than that, you're not.
You don't have problem.
We're happy. Are they Alyssa novel Gemma?
Well, it's a term No, nowadays, it's used in a very derogatory way. We're happy. It's just like an accusation.
Basically, the name comes from Mohammed Abdullah Hamada aloha from Saudi.
That's where the name comes from Hamadan. Now, what did Mohammed mango have do?
The most famous thing that is left as a legacy for him is called kitasato, hit the book of the hit, you go to the book of the heat that he wrote, it's actually not what he wrote, you find only the title, bad chapter.
swearing by other than Allah, his chick. That's an example and then an ayah.
About or a hadith. That's all. So this is basically what the name came from. That's what Mohammed Mohammed did. The followers, the followers at his time, remember, the Arabian Peninsula at that time, divided, it was divided, actually, as a result of his dour, the
state was formed Saudi Arabia, and became united after fierce battles, before that, magic was separate, jazz was separate, was separate. So it was united. Now this is the name of the man himself how he started. He started calling people for the heat for oneness of Allah subhanaw taala. Then after that, the followers also some of them went extreme. If you're not agreeing with us, then you are against us. That's what they did. Until now. Until now, some of the people they're in Saudi some of them. They have this, they don't declare it, but they have this like, if you're not from Saudi, you're not 100%.
Correct. They don't say that, but you can feel it. But people outside they don't even know I asked. Now, when you say what happy What does it mean? What do you mean by we're happy? Because some of them classify we're happy, the one who prolongs the beard and shortens the throat?
Or if you move your finger during prayer, or that's not too happy, all these are opinions of scholars. Many times people tell me you are happy. I never said about myself, but I studied there also. You are. So Does, does it mean anybody who studied there were happy. So what do you mean people don't have specific thing about that? The essence I told you, it comes from this man, Muhammad Abdul Wahab, he led an hour he led the call for the oneness of Allah subhanaw taala. Upon this call, he had the political alliance with Mohammed Bin Saud, and it resulted in a state that exists until now this is the third state actually, the Saudi state it was first one and then the
second one, and then the third one, which is now so that's basically what
Hamilton did. What the name of hobby you have to be more specific. What do you mean by that? Because you can be called Happy
by joining someone who looks like going there or studying in Saudi or a few in there. So what do you mean by that?
Any other questions?
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