A Session With The Youth
Channel: Bilal Philips
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A rare opportunity
for me to sit before so many people, this type of setting
usual attendees of the bastion tends to be the older
So, this session being one for the youth
is something not very common in most of my travels, find this
today being something of an extension of what was done yesterday, where we discussed the
lecture or lecture topic,
pillars of society.
We began by talking about the importance of youth in earliest.
How in the early generations at the time of the prophet SAW the light in the center, and is the hub of the time
that young people play a big role. And I gave two examples who can remember who were the two examples, two young companions. One was
Osama bin Zayed. Okay. Okay, what was the significance? What was the special significance that was nominated? In terms of his role as a youth prominent role?
Muslim forces, yes.
Messenger. Muhammad Rasul Allah, designated him as the commander for the Muslim forces, because the threats from the North is coming. word came to that when the Roman forces were moving south,
in order to try to contain Islam to stop it from spreading beyond their borders,
called up the army
and the army. As soon as the
mayor didn't have a special army, those days. Traditionally, Muslim didn't have
an army, meaning that some people thought it was just your job, your army people don't win the battle game, everybody
at the age of between 15 and 17, was given the responsibility to hand
Muslim forces. And we talked about how if we were to put a 15 year old, in the Pentagon, the Pentagon, and when those Pentagon the Pentagon, they are red button.
When you press this red button, inter ballistic missiles with nuclear warheads would go hitting different sites around the world. Now imagine putting a 15 year old with that,
in his hand,
something very foolish, couldn't trust a 15 year old to do the right thing.
Whereas those days of non designated dishonouring
the other companions like a witness an example of
somebody else who was the other
the live class, and what was the circumstance?
Yes, he was known as the leading commentator on the back door he was himself a teenager
and oh my god.
informed the meaning
that he was to be treated
in a special special way even a special status even though he was in his late teens.
But we said that today
are the pillar of society
is different is in different times the use of become pillars of society, corruption, crime
is now widespread amongst the elders are at risk lions
locking down their houses, virus guards,
security is no peace in society,
most of the
causes for insecurity.
Now, we said that this was a product of the globalization of Western culture. This is a product of Western culture.
among the signs that Western civilization is degenerating, it's crumbling,
foundations are falling apart
in the Muslim community,
we see the effects amongst the use, said
where many young people
having gone through the educational systems
Islam has become confused,
we talked about the problem the educational system, where young people are being educated, not to the point that teachers
shouldn't be educated
to educate Muslims
in other studies, especially primary, secondary,
this is a mistake
is an error and is producing great value to
talk about that, this has to change. And the only way to make changes is that those members that are committed committed to have the means and the ability to set up alternative institutions, it is their duty to do so. So that every child has the opportunity to automatically start study in Muslim
direct institutions, that is the proper way.
We cannot expect a non Muslim to teach us
they will teach us whatever they believe whatever their culture is based on.
So most of the students who are studying in private schools, which are
Christian Schools, they are being fed Christian, Western cultural life
directly through some of the textbooks directly some some statements that the teachers may be
indirectly through subtle
statements or implications
that come from the teachers without students realizing what is going on. They're feeling things.
These things accumulate in the mind of the youth. Until when they reach a certain point, then they rebel
and they reject.
And we talked about in my dress system, whether it is after hours, we can
addresses and about how they failed to provide
proper Islamic education Friday.
Where most kids who go to mattresses
used to go?
Did you like it?
Do you like school more? Okay, what is it you didn't like?
Everybody's the same answer I get.
What do people hate about the
teachers who are teaching using the cane. So of course, we know this is not the way of a civil law.
He didn't teach his companions in the cave.
Nor is this competitive to teach their children with games.
Early generation, they didn't teach
this way, gravity amongst Muslims, when Islam in the Muslim world,
or the Muslim nations declined
13th century after the sacking of Baghdad, by the Mongols,
the burning of the libraries,
etc, then you found the rise in these kinds of
but it wasn't a norm, that now it has become. So we said that these schools for the most part, do not provide proper Islamic education, which could compete with the regular school.
So that was the Dalai Lama said that the only solution was for the Muslim community to realize this big mistake,
realize the damage has been done. And to take the necessary steps to correct something which can be corrected. It's not impossible. But we just have to be committed, work together, make the necessary efforts. And
that's what we discussed yesterday.
those of us that are here in the masjid,
obviously posted to be really glad to be here. How many were forced to come here.
But the father said, gotta go.
Anyway, I was assuming that
means that you really truly came here out of your own interests.
So what we want to do in this session today is, on one hand, we wanted to
address the questions which were raised
yesterday, and we had a whole stack of them. And the big promises were that they will be addressed today. Unfortunately, somehow, that type of questions have disappeared. So we wanted to keep this session as an open session for you to
question, whatever you feel what are your concerns as young people? What do you think needs to be done?
a greater role in uplifting the Muslim community,
because for us,
you are the future of the Muslim community. We look at you, you see the future. If you don't watch ideas you have this is what you are going to implement. When you when the reins of leadership fall into your hands.
You must have some ideas from doubt. So, I'm asking you now to share let us discuss some of the ideas that you might have some issues that you feel need to be addressed
by the community now, before the time comes when we take over
shall we not forget them? Because you see, as the grant says that after seven years
this was a person.
first question concerning
not what the Quran says, but what Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam said, he said,
teach the children Salah, at the age of seven,
and strive for it at the age of 10
at the age of 10,
teach them slide seven,
and spank them at the age of 10.
On one hand, teaching them Salah means
not only how to do the movements of prayer, sometimes people think it's just to learn how to get your hands on the bow and
teach so Armenians teaching them everything about Salah
they know how to
properly what is saw,
we know that because there is a well known narration, one of the companions he said that he had some members of his tribe and come to accept Islam from
and they were taught for the statement image for food and then they went back to their drive they accepted Islam for the whole tribe and you know on behalf of tribe accepted Islam to the whole tribe, so when they came back
the group that had stayed there and had studied Islam with the prophets
competitive innovativeness he said that when the time for salaat came
when the time for salon came, we looked around to see who was the most knowledgeable concerning the variety of crops our sentiment said let the one who was most knowledgeable of the prime needed the salon
so he said, we looked around and it turned out that I knew the most
so I said I met my tribe from that time onward, salah and I was six or seven years old at the time
I was six or seven years old at the time
so this is telling us that when
the instructions instruction to teach Salah it didn't mean just teach movements. Because how can you mean a lot? You don't know the rules what happens if you read what happens while you know your
if you forget, if anything happens, what do you do? You forget the rock if you don't understand what to do in the office cases
you must have that basic knowledge. So the point is that that basic knowledge of salon should be established. When the child reaches the age of 10.
Then he shouldn't be praying regularly.
If he's not getting up to pray,
then you may spank him.
spanking doesn't mean brutalizing.
Any you get the biggest gain or shooting that you can find and you start beating me to the
last sentence got skin is discolored.
this is only a reminder
To him of the importance of PSA.
And we often say that though the child is 10 years old, so Allah is not obligatory on a 10 year old,
but the province has encouraged us to begin the child's preparation for
when he becomes a
teenager become valid,
what is considered to be adult
when a cow becomes obligatory,
he is ready, it is easy, he has not been allowed to pray all the way up to the reaches 13. And now you'd say it's the highs of the good 25. Now,
it's good to remember
the fact that he's not going to want to accept to do so
set up a system of preparing the children.
So that spanking is to help that child achieve what is obligatory.
achieved what is obligatory.
Now, when you're teaching,
teaching, though seeking knowledge in general is obligatory,
the particular subject you're teaching may not be.
So to use that, as a basis now to
be children, in the educational process, we say this is not an acceptable argument. Why? Because we're not acceptable, that the sama would have done it, they would have been known to do it. But we don't have in the record of the
of the Sahaba traveling to each other,
that they were beaten to learn Islam, or beat beaches to memorize.
This was not their way.
So it's not just to take a statement of the province or some of them and then apply it as you feel fit, basically applying it to justify
actions which in fact, are against the way of the prophet SAW seven minutes companions.
Whenever we have a heartbeat,
which involves instructions like this, we have to look and see how did the Sahaba understand this?
As they understood why, because for example,
we all know we should all
the problems are set up and said
well, I actually had time so
if any of you enters the masjid,
you should not sit down until you do some prayer.
This is a strong instruction.
It was so strong. That one occasion during his footlocker put the consumer in the midst of football tomorrow, a man came in and sat down and the prophet SAW said about the stock
and asked the man did he made his two rods.
And the man said he didn't.
the processor told him get off.
That's how significant
praying two units of prayer it's commonly called now master.
briefing the most
people call it that.
But it is two units of prayer
before sitting down.
So we know that this is something
is worth 25 times prayer by yourself.
25 times prayer
So we're encouraged to pray in July. Now, what if I suggest to you
that all of you, who came in the master now, and you didn't make what is called?
You get up,
make one in mom and make the here to jump.
I could do that.
I could say this is a good thing.
But he also said that the government masturbation.
So Isn't it better to do it in Japan?
who agree with me, it's better to do it in Japan.
I just told you.
So who agrees with me that it is better to do to
put your hand up?
Five prayers. These are the ones that you are commanded to pray.
But who said the others?
You ever heard that?
said don't bring any other salon.
But the father's your mom
used to get up in the night? And what used to happen? Did other people join him?
his wives they got up did they make?
Will everybody agree with me now it's better to make.
I brought the evidence
the Sahaba they heard those commands.
They knew what the prophet SAW.
But they didn't understand how to do
Therefore we don't do it.
Because they best understood what the process.
So that is the basis under which we will say even though prophesised didn't say spectacles for salon, at the age of 10. We don't know why you got no to anything.
you know, standard studies, therapy.
We don't Why?
Because the compiler didn't understand it.
They didn't learn it the
rest of each
as us should we first start studying Islam or assisting Muslims in Jihad?
if you don't understand
then you might find yourself
in something that people are calling jihad, which is not really gi.
This is the danger.
People around the world involved in military operations and they call it a Jihad
but is every struggle with
People call Jia, Jia?
How do you know which one is made the GI they
don't have knowledge,
you can be sucked into anything.
The danger. So I would advise young people
to gain knowledge of Islam to be able to determine where the right causes are and where the wrong causes are. So that if you are then called upon you know what to do, because without correct knowledge, then you are a target.
That's why many of those people who have been involved in operations which are not really Jihad operations, which are against Islamic teachings become terrorist operations, or young people.
Most of those who end up doing it, those who may be planning it.
They're older people.
They're the ones saying, etc. But the people will end up going off and doing it for their young people
didn't really know what they were.
So my advice is, seek knowledge.
gain the knowledge, if your community comes under attack, if there is, you know, something happens in Kenya, where Muslims are being attacked, I'm not saying at that time, you don't try
to defend your family in your community, you fight back.
Because you have no other choices right in front of your face, without going to talk about leaving Kenya and going somewhere else.
In other parts of the world,
then you want to be sure what you're going to be doing is correct.
And the only way as I said first degree,
as those who know, if you don't know
those have knowledge in your community.
Correct qualification to be leaders, Allah, Allah is trying to get the correct information before undertaking any such
Those who are specialists,
they are not willing to assist.
They do maybe a cut another time to the string, something that's
we are supposed to learn he has a primary four years old, secondary
age of 26. That's a positive.
So, I don't have a
So where can we where can we start
to make our society
others question and I repeated because they are sisters.
Also listening, they may not be able to hear around an external mic and they can listen to is that as a young person studying himself,
he feels that those who have the economic means and power
he mentioned that there
probably is not quite
there are people in the society who are making businessman, they have their needs, etc. And they are not
forthcoming in setting up Ways and Means for young people to properly educate themselves and Islam. So the young person is forced to go through the basic educational system, you know, into the tertiary levels, the college levels and then after that they're required to look after properly. So where did they get the opposite
Well, as I said from yesterday, it's the responsibility of those that the community will have the means to,
to develop proper institutions, which can ensure that our
youth are studying both the academic subjects, as well as the Islamic subjects. And even the academic subjects should be studied from an Islamic perspective, so that they come through with a well rounded education. This is really a major requirement for the community to be successful, has to develop its own institutions, which would then provide proper education. Because for you to go through the primary levels,
to the secondary levels, and have not received a good Islamic foundation is a failure on the part of the community. This is a community obligation what they refer to as far as fire, it is the obligation of the community to provide proper education opportunities for its children and youth to be properly guided islamically. So that they when they enter into tertiary level, Ba, Ma level education postgraduate, they have an entry with a solid foundation. And in fact, it's even better if we are able to set up colleges, which would also provide the necessary educational, Islamic educational perspective.
So the solution for those of you who don't have
access to traditional channel
approach, because from what I've heard from my visit here, there are programs that are being run, you know, where, whether it's on a weekend basis, or doing special holidays, or doing summers, etc, where some of the leading institutions do have programs for students. I mean, it's not easy because of course, it means studying outside of your regular study, again, in other institutions, which makes it a bit difficult, because really, I mean, study should be within a particular period of time that you should have time where you can relax and socialize. As a part of your day, it shouldn't be studied from dawn till, you know, till you go back to sleep at night. So there should be some
balance here. But there are opportunities for those who want to gain it in knowledge in the society of
young people, there are some there are not enough opportunities, and they're not properly, properly developed, but they still do exist. And I don't know if you want to say something about as a solution for
what our young brother is saying, as a college or your college students,
secondary level students, you know, what can you give a couple of examples of programs that are available for secondary level students to be able to increase their Islamic knowledge? I know some consistent programs here in Nairobi.
The registration will be in integrated school.
But they're very, very few, of course,
in Canada, but at least in a school where that environment instead, for example, will be high school. Like
I would be the best ideal situation in Mombasa. But, of course, even the capacity cannot accommodate all the students. Yeah.
But the reality is not
a woman High School and the like.
But there are other programs for example, every school holiday
what he does is every class every whatever
the other organizations as well, although sometimes it's a 10 day or what we program for for students in secondary school students or colleges and universities. Both
For the for the ladies in for
for the for the boys in for the girls and the other programs which are which are there for example that
there are studies for for evening classes here in
the US Mashallah they attend classes there to sell in other programs
also for for the new Liberty's a gym, they have a weekend program and they also have evening classes in the light. So, it depends on a person, how active that person is. And also access to
technology in a positive way.
What is the ruling concerning the beard and the Muslim man shaved his beard, this is fairly simple, growing the beard is fun, it is an obligation to shave the beard is cut off.
And you should understand that though
you may find some people say you know growing the beard is so not
the usual response to those who shaved beards, say going to bear you
know, it's not fun.
We have to understand that how we define what is should not what is fun is not an arbitrary process, meaning your local scholar he has a bottle in that bottle. He has five pieces of paper, one paper says
another one says so now another one says the other one says
another one says
so every time you call up the Astra fight where you come into his office and he says whichever one he puts out for you.
This is not the process.
We don't determine
around it this way that is what we call an arbitrary process know when something is fun,
obligatory watch it. This is when there is a clear command of the profits are seldom to do it.
When it is around, there's a clear vision from the processor level to not do it without any exceptions
to not do what is his fault
and to not do what is foreign that is
they are linked.
So when we look at the issue of the beard beard what we find is that Prophet Mohammed Sasa London authentic had a super mario Muslim clearly command to grow your beards and trim your mustaches. distinguish yourself from the pagans and vegetarians. Grow Your beards and trim your mustache.
distinguish yourself from the patients.
Therefore, that being a command, the process and love, it means that
it is logical for us to grow your beard and to not do what is farmed. We said it's prayed five times daily is for us to not pray five times daily is Hello.
So on that basis, we say that growing a beard is powerful and shaping it is
our correcting methods or corrective methods should our teachers in the madrasas and integrated schools apply. Our children behavior has been corrupted by Western culture.
as I have stressed
those who are teaching
should be trained teachers.
Those who are teaching in the madrasas, those who are teaching in the
public schools. They should be trained teachers. We have to get them to get for themselves proper educational quality.
vacations, which would enable them
to teach effectively.
So the correction starts with the teachers.
Then you look at the students, the teachers, who are properly trained,
they know how to manage a class, how to deal with unruly students and all
those who are not properly trained,
then the only method that they know is the game.
So the solution starts with training the teachers property
is a booklet I read yesterday was about cleaning, and
it's all about pain. And food as a means of consumer was written by one of my patients. In that book, he uses a lot of
to support Jamie. In fact, the very thing you're talking about, he talked about, he also said that, okay, we cannot apply this as a means of what's pulling him but
I will say
that, if you want to teach your child so that your son has not
read the Quran,
and if you can't read the Quran, so he was using this rule,
to support meaning, and also he brought a lot of thought, for example,
the prophet scanned for Sophia, so
she used to be a woman. And the Sahaba have an add on said that the profit.
And the profit means when you put something is what becomes. So he said that they use the profit
is not the severe K, which leaves marks on people's bodies, executives. So we don't have any defense for that. He was against that. He said that most people misuse the king. In fact,
he said that, in fact, in
and in fact, he said in some schools in Texas, they wouldn't be
the point is that
we're at something good,
then we would have this as a widespread practice among the Sahaba and tagname.
We would hear about Miley Shafi and other mommies too, with me and my uncle used to with me, and we read their stories. We don't
we don't we don't hear it. I mean, the fact that you bring one story to you. And he
says it's because that's a claim, you have to how do you establish that today?
As I said, I did look into what is the wording argument, because
to claim that, that, in fact, was no to the process of giving permission. You know, this may have been an exception.
And that's what it would appear to be an exception to the rule. What was the norm, the norm was that this was widespread, you know, what do we have exceptions, like when the products or sell them, you know, gave permission for an adult in the home of one of the female companions to drink her milk?
We don't build rules without that exception. So I would, you know, have to look at those arguments look at them systematically to, to refute the basis of the argument. But I would say it's not too good to see in the lives of the early generation, that this was not the common practice. Today when we look at it, we have to say it is the norm.
It is the norm, having that stick and getting the kids to the secondary this door. So
the fact that you may use a cane or a
You may use what was called corporal punishment, under exceptional circumstances where there are extreme circumstances demanding it, you say, you know, the exceptions, don't have rules. We don't make rules based on exceptions.
So I will not deny that there may be exceptional cases, but to for it to be the norm? No, we don't have evidence to support it from the practice of Finance. So I would say they're the best interpreters. So
what are the factors we need to consider before choosing a career course of study? As most of
you? This is an important question. You know, as you look to, towards your future studies, graduating, going into higher studies, you do have to be clear on your goals for studying,
you have to be clear after what you're going into before.
And what you're gaining the knowledge that you're gaining there, you have to have some idea of how you're going to use it.
Otherwise, you will go and waste your time, end up in courses that you shouldn't have been in and graduate and really not be a beneficial member of the community. And that said, kindness,
found it nice, the best of people are those most beneficial to the people. We know from that that the educational process should produce individuals who are beneficial to the society. So the courses that you take should be ones which would help to uplift the Muslim community benefit the community while benefiting yourself because it's also a means for me or giving etc. But it should be one which would benefit the community.
Now, we also have the issue
of certain specializations, which
in general may be beneficial to the community, but for a Muslim, it is not appropriate. For example, medicine, medicine is a field which is beneficial to the community, we should have doctors amongst us. However, however, for a Muslim male, to go and study medicine, and specialize in gynecology,
say this is not appropriate. Yes, the community needs gynecologists but for a Muslim male, to specialize it that is not appropriate for those young people amongst you don't know what gynecology is.
Explain gynecology is basically the field which specializes on women,
women, especially dealing with having children and and diseases that they may have connected to their reproductive system etc.
Such fields are not appropriate for a Muslim male to specialize.
We should have Muslim females, they should be encouraged to go and get that knowledge to be able to provide for women a an acceptable
necessity necessary mode of treatment. So, like that, can we look at other professions? For example, say for women to go into engineering, civil engineering? You know, civil engineering is a project
profession, which should know should have or do we build our masters or we build our homes, these kind of things? We need this knowledge. What What should a woman go into civil engineering? We say no. Why? Because it's it's a, it's a man's world that is a man's field. Everybody should be dealing with men, men all around you have to be dealing with men all the time, in such a profession becomes problematic,
becomes problematic. Because it is known that when women are in circumstances where men dominate, they end up being abused. They end up being
harassed, this is just a norm, everywhere, regardless of the profession.
Also, there are some professions, which we can make a distinction between males and females, meaning we need to have this professional master. But in practice,
we need to know that
we have limitations in our practice, for example, dentistry, dentistry, it's important, we need to have a dentist to deal with it. You know, can you imagine your sister, or your mother or your wife, and this man is
not something appropriate, shall we say? We need male dentists. But this is for treating the males and females that is treating the females, we need some questions like that. We need both. Right. So when we're considering our future profession, we have to keep in mind, what are the Islamic guidelines, which will define for us what fields we can specialize in.
the means of education,
education in Islam.
we might level up, we need a
question concerns. Those people who have emigrated to Kenya, and such don't have access to the main stream systems of Islamic education.
gaining knowledge here, that information needs to be asked to the
knowledge chair in Kenya that may lose only a visitor and as limited knowledge. So I don't know if you want to address that. It's true. It's a it's a challenge, because some of the educational issues because they were targeted. So they don't want
to have somebody who, who is not a Kenyan? Yeah.
Because they fear that the institution will be closed. So it's true that there's such a challenge in the mainstream educational institution, but there are other outlets out there. They don't ask for your ID.
Because they're free of charge, most of them and now you can access
other institutions which are offering education, for example, I mentioned to each of your most interest, yeah, but maybe just as a thought.
The other technology for example, he he
in the like,
you don't have to
have a nationality of any country. And maybe through
the shift here, I can advise us on the online
There is online, the Islamic online university.com Islamic online university.com. There, there are courses on Islam, which are free.
Most of them are given by me and by other scholars or participating along with it. You can study basic Islamic knowledge there
are no costs. So I'd encourage you to join. They're more than 8000 students registered in the in the study summit online university from over 121 different countries. There are some from here in Kenya and the courses are complete courses with
testing and certificate is given at the end of the course.
tests and assignments etc. So, I would welcome you all to access this information. There are courses there, which are for
a series of our courses which are given in different parts of the world. So there's one course called our training courses, etc. Go there, it has about 10 modules to study these and gives you advice in terms of guidance in terms of how to go about dealing with many of the Issues and Controversies associated with di.
my question is, in Kenya, it's unfortunate that we don't have Islamic universities. So all of us were forced to go to the central
to take a certain course, within the Samsung was the unit, which was supposed to take, and in the same unit to find out that the lectures, the kind of wage plus famous
Islam, and our beloved Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him.
So if you decide to stop out of the class, then you will be called to go and never come back. Okay, concerning the sense education, it's unfortunate that we have to come up with our carriers.
So they can Kindle most of it. And they are being really putting a lot of resources and effort to come up with the curricula, which will help.
So the reality is that they're trying to get to a question. Yeah, as far as
I'm concerned, you have to import it from Western
correct channels, so that it can be dealt with officially, and you know, and then we will not be just accused of reacting, you know, burning
chairs and attacking University, you know, this, we don't want to do that, because that kind of approach doesn't bring good results actually ends up harming our cause. So we need to take the correct channels do this systematically, you know, there is a system of justice here, we do have most of them, you know, parliamentarians are ministers, whatever, you know, we can get people behind and once it's done like that, and that teacher gets censored by the university, right and Warren, etc, the word will spread, you better not do it again, the word will get to the other teachers who might be doing it and thinking about doing it, you know, and it will put a stop to it when it's done
systematically, and the full force of the political machinery is behind it.
journey is cleaned up the snow
on the ground television
up which is consumed in some parts of the Muslim world and here affecting us. This is something which the scholars have already written on,
you know, and unanimous rulings and positions have been taken. The
Muslim World League has what they call
they have a body which gathers Muslim scholars from all over the Muslim world they come together and they address various issues that exist in the Muslim world and factors are passed on it. So what needs to be done is to collect
to collect collected up and put it out in some kind of a document and then be made the knowledge of it we made a bit
to the general public. So this was what my advice would be that it'd be dealt with, again, in a systematic way rather than me making a statement, etc. And I know personally, you know, when I accepted Islam, and began to study in Medina, and I went back to visit
my community where I was born in Jamaica, and I met a number of Rastafarians were converted to Islam.
And it is known amongst them that, you know, marijuana is considered a holy curve, right?
They would use it in their rituals, their rituals of worship. So when I came and tried to tell them that no, this is, this is the same thing. They're arguing it's not in the barn.
This is not in the Aggie and he said, he said, in fact, it is in the Quran, that is okay. I said, watch where she told me. So they brought out Yusuf Ali's translation of the Quran, right? Use a valid translation.
Allah says there were the people are asking Prophet Musa to change the food, right? They said, was it?
Yeah, the reverse.
We have added see how basilea right. So he translate in English in the use of valid translation as pot herbs.
And any Western slang pot is the name for marijuana, and so is herb. So he's got double names.
So, of course to deal with something like that, to get something more authoritative. And this the same process out advise you to get it from sources where it's already been written down to the sources and deal with it systematically.