Ali Ataie – 2021 Ramadan Reflections Prophet Isa (pbuh)
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Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim salam ala Muhammad in one early he was
savage marine Salam alaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh.
First of all, I like to thank the lampposts education initiative,
Sheikh Abdullah Ali Bin Hamid, may Allah keep him
for this opportunity to speak to all of you.
I want to tell you the story of the Messiah.
Its concept its history and his identity as well as Islam's
Christology. So in 586, before the Common Era, the Babylonian king
Nebuchadnezzar destroyed the Temple of Solomon, the last king
of Judah Zedekiah, was deposed and taken captive, he would later die
in a Babylonian prison, so that a kya was a descendent of King
David, the very man who son Solomon had built the temples and
400 years earlier. I imagine that many Israelites at this time were
asking themselves the very same question. What about the Lord's
promise? You see in the book of Second Samuel written around 700.
Before the Common Era, we are told that God promised David that
David's house, kingdom and throne will be established forever. So in
light of this disastrous Babylonian invasion, had God
somehow broken his promise.
During the Babylonian captivity, the Jewish people attempted to
make sense of all that had happened to them. The result was
the development and promulgation of a restoration theology known as
Messianism. So the Jews re interpreted God's promise to David
as actually pointing to the future, a future King, who will
sit on David's throne forever. So this type of interpretive damage
control, if you will, was easier than admitting that the verse in
Second Samuel had been basically historically falsified. They came
to call this king, the Messiah, how mushiya The Anointed One.
Their reasoning was that the title Messiah was used in the past for
any king, that was anointed by a prophet to rule over God's people.
saw the first king of Israel, for instance, was anointed with oil by
the prophet Samuel. He was a Messiah. And so as David, however,
the Tanakh that is to say the Hebrew Bible, the Old Testament,
tells us that there were at least two other types of people that
were anointed and thus messiahs in addition to Israel's kings. The
first were the sons of Aaron, the priests and the second were
prophets, such as Alicia.
But the future king Messiah was supposed to be unique according to
the prevalent Jewish opinion, he will gather the Israelite exiles
from the four corners of the world and rule over the whole of
humanity with absolute authority and perfect justice. Numerous
other verses in the books of Jeremiah, Isaiah and Ezekiel,
stay state that the Messiah will also be a descendant of David just
just as God had apparently promised. The question is, were
Micah and Jeremiah and Ezekiel and Isaiah etc. Were they speaking
about the very same Messiah, or multiple messiahs of different
types. The Jews were released from Babylon in 538. Before the Common
Era following a decree issued by the Persian King Cyrus the son of
combine ISIS who defeated the Babylonians and inherited their
kingdom. Cyrus a foreign sun worshiper is enigmatically called
God's Messiah mushy hole by the author of deutero Isaiah. Despite
his Gentile pedigree, Cyrus was considered by Isaiah to be a
divinely favored vehicle through which God brought about the
redemption of his people. The AMI slide or the bunny is Surah Yun.
So in summary in the language of the tunnel, in the language of the
Old Testament, we see that the word messiah is used broadly as a
descriptor for various men of leadership and authority, who were
chosen by God for the purpose of benefiting his people in some
significant way. This explains the statement, the statement of the
psalter, quoting God, he says, Do not touch my anointed. The word
anointed here in Hebrew is mushy cream, translated in the Greek
Septuagint as Chris Stone, so you see the word is in the plural. Do
not touch my anointed ones, because this denotes kings priests
and prophets. Now throughout the subsequent centuries the Jews had
their fair share of Messianic claimants and pseudo messiahs
Judas of Galilee Simon Bar Kokhba Moses of Crete David al Roy, the
humiliating Shabbetai SFI, who actually converted to Islam.
Rahmatullah lay. And in recent history in the NACA Mendel
Schneerson. To name just a few. In the 12th century CE II, the great
polymath, my manatees, Moshe have in mind one considered belief in
the coming of the Davidic Messiah, to be one of his major 13
principles of Jewish faith. These are called the shadow shot if
caught a Munna Mo's my monitor is wrote in his Mishnah Torah under a
section called the laws of kings in their wars that the Messiah,
the true Messiah will arise from the house of David bate Dahveed.
He will compel all of Israel to walk in the way of the Torah, he
will fight the wars of the Lord. He will rebuild the temple in its
place, he will gather the dispersed of Israel from diaspora
and he will motivate he says ha or alarm could Lola avoid Adonai he
will motivate the entire world to worship God. My model has
concluded if he does not succeed, or is killed, then he is surely
not the Redeemer promised in the Torah. None of the aforementioned
men were able to live up to these messianic expectations, no one
even came close. And so the Jewish people continue to wait for their
king. In fact, most Jews today, with the exception of the devoutly
orthodox have either come to abandon altogether the coming of a
personal Messiah, or in the case of many secular Zionists consider
the modern state of Israel to be a quasi messianic substitute of
sorts. It turns out that a first century Galilean, although born in
Bethlehem, but also claimed to be the Messiah, his name was Jesus of
Nazareth or in Hebrew you, you show you show you how not sorry,
but the question must be asked,
what type of Messiah was he? Did he claimed to be a king, Messiah,
a priest, Messiah, or a prophet, Messiah?
Because all of these are called messiahs in the Tanakh. Whatever
his claim, it is this man that the Quran and New Testament affirm as
being the genuine article that is to say over 60% of humanity called
him Messiah. However, the majority of his Jewish contemporaries
rejected his messianic claim. Primarily, it seems, for the same
reason that Judas of Galilee was rejected a few years earlier,
namely, that he was apparently killed by his enemies, before he
could fulfill the great predictions of old. But this
massive Jewish rejection of Jesus would only be justified if Jesus
peace be upon him specifically claimed to be the Davidic King,
Messiah. And we must admit that Jesus did not fulfill those
predictions. After all, why would a Jew believe that Jesus was the
king Messiah when He never came into any sort of political power,
and the fact that the Quran rejects the claim that Jesus was
killed on a cross does not necessarily mean that the Quran
considers him to be the Davidic King Messiah. from a Jewish
perspective, however, Jesus still needed to fulfill the
aforementioned requirements of the Davidic King Messiah in order for
him to be embraced by their nation. The Christian appealed to
a second coming, when Jesus will fulfill these things doesn't help
matters either. And it's interpreted by Jews as essentially
an admission of Jesus's failure. By this Jewish logic, any
messianic claimant could simply appeal to a second coming in order
to divert people away from his messianic shortcomings. But here's
another issue. Jesus peace be upon him was not a descendant of David.
Although one's Jewishness is established matrilineal Lee
through the mother that is,
the Torah is quite clear that one's house once bait in Hebrew
once tribal identity is only established through one's father.
The Christian answer to this problem that Jesus somehow
inherited the tribal identity of his legal father Joseph of house
David is unconvincing and desperate. Jesus did not have a
father and therefore could not be from the house.
of David. Yet the Koran calls him Al Messiah, the Messiah. So what's
the solution?
My contention is that a sign a synonym, never claimed to be the
Davidic King, Messiah, but the Messiah in another sense, the
prophet Messiah. All in all in the Abdullah he attorney al Kitab wa
Jai Lani Nebia In fact, his very name, Yeshua, meaning he is saved
is etymologically related to the other prophet Messiah mentioned in
the Tanakh Elysia, whose name means my god is salvation.
Furthermore, it is my contention that the very foundation of the
belief in a future dividit King Messiah, is quite tenuous and most
likely a later fabrication imputed upon the Hebrew texts. But why
invent the Davidic King Messiah? This requires an answer that lies
beyond the scope of this short presentation. It is sufficient to
say for now, that initial widespread Jewish belief do
initial widespread Jewish disbelief in Jesus peace be upon
him was actually the result of placing exaggerated artificial and
artificial demands upon him upon Jesus, that were never really
requirements of anyone. Now, five centuries prior to the Quranic
revelation, a quartet of famous biographies were written about
Jesus peace be upon him by people who did believe that he was the
Davidic Messiah or king Christ. The sacred biographies written in
Koine, a or common Greek were dubbed gospels by the authors and
early followers of this Messianic movement. However, by the time of
their compositions in the late first century, the rigidly
monotheistic Jewish teachings of Jesus and his apostles had already
been fused with certain Greek that is, pagan beliefs and concepts.
Therefore, many Hellenistic proselyte, who began operating as
Christian exigence apologists and heresy ologists naturally
explained the Gospels as advancing such notions as incarnation, a
list Christology, or vicarious atonement, and eventually,
monotheistic Trinitarianism,
all of which were foreign to Jesus's own religion, after the
Council of Constantinople and 381 of the Common Era, and with the
blessing of Emperor Theodosius the first the newly revised nine
Gneisenau Constantino politan creed explicitly stated the now
Imperial orthodoxy that Jesus Christ was Fay en la phenom XA U
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the true God from true God, begotten, not made, co substantial
with the Father. Today all three major branches of Christianity,
Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy and Protestantism,
except this creed is absolutely authoritative and binding. So
there we have it. On one hand, we encounter the exaggeration that
Hulu that Jesus was an illegitimately conceived, false
messiah and heretic who is fittingly executed for his
blasphemy. While on the other hand, the exaggeration the Hulu,
that Jesus peace be upon him was the Lord God himself, who became a
man in order to sacrifice himself for the sins of the world. To this
I can only quote the Word of God in the context of its Christology,
oh people of the book, lad Tezza Luffy de comb, do not exaggerate.
In your religions do not speak concerning God except the truth.
The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary was only a messenger of God
and His Word which he cast upon Mary
and the spirit from him.
Okay, let's look at the Quran is Christology okay, it's positive
and negative aspects. The positive Christology of the Quran deals
with two aspects, the quitter toss or nature of the Christ, what is
the Christ in essence, and number two, the person of the Christ who
is the Christ in particular, the negative Christological aspects
then become obvious what is not the Christ in essence and who is
not the Christ. In particular, we will begin by examining the
Koran's positive and negative crosstalk
is the logical assertions with respect to the person of the
Christ? Who is he? And who is he not in particular, okay, so the
Quran unequivocally reveals the identity of the Messiah in several
places. For example, in one of its annunciation narratives, marry
Maryam it has Cena is told that she will conceive a son whose name
shall be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary held in honor in this world
and in the hereafter and among those brought near. The Quran
further describes the person of Jesus the Messiah by stating he
was born of a virgin, he spoke from the cradle. He is the Word of
God, who was taught the book wisdom, the Torah and the Gospel,
that he had a devoted group of disciples that he could perform
certain miracles by God's leave, including the raising of the dead,
that he confirmed that the Torah yet made some ameliorating
amendments, that he was hoping that he was helped by the Spirit
of holiness, that he prophesized the coming of athma salatu salam,
that he was a messenger sent to the children of Israel,
and he was raised by God unto himself. The Quran also integrates
the PA Lucia or second coming of Jesus toward the end of time.
Additional descriptions of Jesus include Abdullah, the slave of God
Nebby a prophet Mobarak bless it, Zeki pure of all sin. I attended
the NAS a sign unto humanity, Rama 10, Mina, a mercy from Us.
Conversely, then we can determine who the Christ was not well simply
put, he was none other than Jesus, son of Mary and no one else is
called Messiah in the Quran, not musante son I'm not in Yes, and he
Salam not Lodha, codename, whom some exigence identify as King
Cyrus. It also follows them that Jesus was not conceived by the
normal process. He was not ignorant of the Torah. He was a
master of Jewish scripture in law, he was not deprived of the spirit
of holiness. And he was not a false prophet who fabricated a
revelation. He was not a sinner nor accursed did and he was not
killed nor crucified by the Jewish authorities, etc.
Now we turn to the examination of the Quran is positive and negative
Christological assertions with respect to the nature or essence
of the Christ. So we are told Jesus, the son of Mary was not
been a messenger. messengers had gone before him and his mother was
truthful. They both used to eat food, according to advantages al
khalaby in his facilitation and aspect of the Koran's teachings on
Nobunaga, one of the seven major themes of the Quran is to provide
refutation of the arguments of the disbelievers. This idea that I
just read in translation, affirms the full humanity of Jesus and his
mother Peace be upon both of them by use of a subtle argument.
Firstly, rather than simply stating that Jesus was a messenger
as an affirmative proposition, the Quran employs the rhetorically
powerful construction of an accepted affirmation after a
negation, if bad, bad enough, Ian, like in the shahada, La ilaha
illAllah. Thus, in effect, Jesus justice thus in effect, this in
effect tells us that Jesus cannot be anything beyond the nature of a
human messenger. Secondly, given the premise that dependence is an
attribute of imperfect existence, dependence must also be
predicated, of created beings must Alucard due to them having certain
needs, like food, water, oxygen, warmth, gravity, etc, in order to
exist. If Jesus was dependent on anything such as food to exist,
then he cannot be God. Due to the fact that God's existence God's
Will Jude is perfect, he is a salaam, the perfect that is, he is
totally independent of every thing, every che with the word
thing meaning that which is willed Shah into existence. God was never
willed into existence does not require anything that is willed in
order to exist, but himself wills things into existence Well who are
you to Remo Wallah you to arm he feeds, but it's never fed. Does
God is money and how you will consume a summit that is
is the one who is eternally sufficient unto himself.
In addition to describing Jesus as a divinely dependent messenger,
the Quran
says that no human being no Bashara, who receives prophethood
and revelation would ever say to his people, cool, notary bad
deadly mean doing the law worship me other than God. Both the
context of the Quran as well as the classical exegetical
literature indicate, that although this ayah is describing the
prophets in general, it is Jesus peace be upon him that is
specifically intended.
The word Bashar or human being is related at some illogically to
Bashara meaning outer skin. Of course, the human being or homo
sapiens is the only primate that does not have a coat of fur to
hide his bare skin. Bashar is also the word used in juxtaposition to
Angel Melech in the Quran is telling of the story of Joseph
peace be upon him, as well as the word that God orders the Prophet
Mohammad Soleimani synonym to call himself as a preface to his claim
of receiving ye or revelation. Thus, Jesus peace be upon him, was
a flesh, skin and blood human being, and not an angel, nor some
sort of celestial Phantasm as the Gnostic dosa today, such as the
Marcia knights maintained. A Christian apologist here might
retort at this point, and insist that he agrees with the Quranic
statement that Jesus would never say, worship me other than God.
That is because Jesus is God, and thus cannot be other than Him.
Jesus would rather say, Worship Me as God. So here's my response to
that. This Quranic statement must be understood, with the underlying
assumption that no true prophet actually believed that he was
divine. Therefore, if a quote unquote prophet should ever say
worship me, it is in reality, worship that would be rendered to
other than God. In other words, any so called prophet who claims
divinity is simply a liar, and thus a false prophet. In this
respect, the Quran echoes the sentiments of the fourth century,
anti Christian polemicists, Rabbi Abba, who have Surya who famously
commented on numbers 2319 by saying, If a man says to you, I am
God, he is a liar.
The prophet Hosea was also told by God, in the book of Hosea,
he says, for I am God and not a human being, or in the Hebrew key
I know he Ale, the low ish meaning that God and humanity are mutually
exclusive exclusive. A good question for our Christian friends
is this. Why would God reveal these verses reveal these things?
to Moses and Hosea and other prophets? And then expect the Jews
to accept the divine claims of anyone?
Why would God tell Moses God is not a man that he should lie, and
then incarnate himself into human flesh and expect people to believe
that he's God. It follows then that the Christian belief in the
divinity of Jesus the Messiah is not biblical. The Quran says and
truth, surely they have blasphemed who say, Indeed, God is the
Messiah, the Son of Mary, but the Messiah said, oh children of
Israel, worship Allah, my lord, and your Lord.
Of course, in Matthew Mark, sorry, Mark 1018. When the Jewish scribe
comes to Jesus, Good Master, what must I do to gain eternal life?
Right, Jesus says to him, why are you calling me good? Right? No one
is good, but one that is God.
So Jesus did not even accept that title of good according to the New
Testament gospel of Mark, let alone the title of God. Now
another significant ayah of the Quran that reveals the very nature
of the Christ is found in its third sutra.
We read in the method ERISA and the like and method he Adam
Holika, whom in to rob from
makalah who couldn't fill your cone in D, the likeness of Jesus
with God is like that of Adam. He created him from dust then said to
him Be and he was. According to Imam Razi, Jesus and Adam have
similar attributes that were both created body and soul but in
uniquely unconventional ways. The Quran suggests that the Christian
belief in Jesus's role as the divine son and Savior, was the
result of ancient pagan influence. Probably the popular pre Christian
mythos of a dying and rising Savior man gods such as all
Marxists, or die NICs or Osiris. Even Justin Martyr, the father of
logos theology, admitted in his dialogue with Trypho the Jew, to
the presence of certain disturbing parallels between his Christology
and the pagan myths of Bacchus and Hercules, and Asclepius and
Perseus and Mithras.
In the Quran, we are told that Jesus will say
to God on the day of judgment, He will say to Allah subhanho, wa
Taala on the human Qiyamah you know what is in myself while I do
not know what is in yourself to animal life enough see what an
animal my feet enough seek. This statement reveals that the
knowledge of Jesus peace be upon him is deficient, is not as which
for Muslims clearly indicates his non divine status, since God is
omniscient and omnipotent, and Aileen while Cuddyer according to
ash, attea, and much odd theologians. In addition to these
two Omni attributes, God also possesses will life hearing sight
speech. These make up the seven major qualitative attributes of
divinity, a Sefa to mineI. If someone is lacking in any one of
these attributes, then he is disqualified as being God with
respect to knowledge, God is perfect. His knowledge does not
increase nor decrease. Thomas Aquinas wrote in the Summa said in
God, there exists the most perfect knowledge. Okay. Aquinas was not
only referring to the Father, by the way, but asserted after a long
discussion, that perfection of knowledge was also attributable to
Christ. However, in the context of his second coming, Jesus says,
according to Mark, but concerning that day and hour, no one knows,
not the angels in heaven, who day ha Helios, not even the Son
referring to himself, apparently, but only the Father. Now
Christians respond to this challenge by this apparent
contradiction by appealing to something known as hypostatic
union. This dogma teaches that while Christ possesses two natures
human and divine, he is only one unique person or Hypostases, that
is a union of the divine person of the sun and the human person of
Jesus of Nazareth. Hence, he is the God man, but this is no 5050
split, they insist. Christ is 100% God and 100%. Man at the same
time. Therefore, according to Christians, there are passages in
the Gospels where Christ's words reflect his human nature, due to
his incarnational limitations, such as the above mark in verse,
while at other times, his words reflect His divine nature, like
when he says in John 1030, the father and I are one. There may
also be times when Christ being an obedient son, they say, simply
does not have permission from the Father to reveal certain truths.
So even though the son is fully God, he is still under the
authority of His Father. Thus, when Christ said, My Father is
greater than I, he was referring to a hypostatic hierarchy within
the Godhead, rather than rather than to an essential or
ontological hierarchy. The former is Trinitarian orthodoxy, while
the latter is the position of the heretical subordination is,
therefore according to Catholic sources, quote, The sun has no
knowledge of the Day of Judgment, which he may communicate, or the
sun has no knowledge of this event, which springs from his
human nature. And quote, The upshot of the latter opinion is in
effect that Christ did know the day but denied its knowledge.
Nonetheless,
In my opinion, these theological obfuscations and exegetical
gymnastics are unconvincing attempts to avoid the simple truth
that the texts of the Gospels reflect various Christological
positions that are at loggerheads with one another. The plain
meaning of Mark's text is obvious. Jesus doesn't know the day of
judgment, he doesn't know his second coming.
Because he simply doesn't know it. He's a human being. That's
obvious. Yet we are told to believe that the text really means
the opposite of what it seemingly says. Besides, did the author of
Mark's gospel writing around 70 of the Common Era really have
hypostatic? Union in mind, in this belief did not become official
Church doctrine until 431. of the Common Era, Did Mark really
believe in the Trinity? If so, why does the father only know the day
and not the Holy Spirit? Okay, fine. The sun is speaking from his
human nature, okay, fine, but the Holy Spirit is is supposedly not
human at all. Why doesn't he know the day? The Holy Spirit not even
mentioned in this verse? By Mark, is he really a Trinitarian?
I want to conclude this session now with with a reading from the
Quran, the word of God and the truest of speeches. So Allah
subhanaw taala tells us after telling us the story of the
Messiah, Allah Subhana Allah Allah says that he can eat sub pneumonia
and whole and happy that the feed em Tarun such was Jesus the son of
Mary. It is a statement of truth about which they are vainly
disputing. Oh ad hoc with the monsoon reading accusative
reading,
referring to the aforementioned story of the Messiah, but some of
the Quran they read this and this is a it's a multi transmitted good
ah, oh, Lulu hacked into the VM Tarun, with the Rafa with the
nominative. Right meaning that Jesus is the Word of the truth. He
is the Word of God about which they are vainly disputing. Makana.
Lilla, he is talking to them in wallet in Subhana Eva either
called or amaranth in the Maya kulula who couldn't for your corn.
It is not befitting for Allah Subhana Allah to Allah to take a
child or a son Glory be to Him whenever He decrees a matter he
merely says to it be and it is, what in the law, how to be more
comfortable, do have a Serato stepping in now it's appearing to
quote Are you sign a salon Indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord,
worship Him. This is a straight path. Interestingly, in Jesus's
high priestly prayer, even the Gospel of John with his high
Christology John 17, three we were told that Jesus is speaking to the
Father and by the way, when it says the father, it's very, very
clear that this means the Lord OB in the New Testament, means Rob,
okay, father means that about the imminent deity now the word of is
not in the Quran, because it's been abrogated, but this is the
meaning of up in the in the Bible, that that God in the in the
biblical dispensation, one of his titles is the father, which is my
jazz is figurative. It's a term of endearment. He's not just the
father of Jesus, Jesus. He teaches the people to pray on the Sermon
on the Mount of wound of ash Mayo net cotta schmo Our Father who art
in heaven, hallowed be thy name, everybody's father, everyone's
Rob. Okay.
So so in John 17, three, he's speaking to the Father and He
says, This is eternal life, to know you the only true God who is
the only true God the Father, and to know Jesus Christ whom thou has
sent this eternal life according to the Gospel of John Jesus in the
Gospel of John did your hand and Jesus eternal life is to know to
know that the Father is the only true God and also to know that
Jesus Christ is sent of God. La ilaha illallah De Soto Sula
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yeomen of him. But the sectarians differed among themselves. Did you
know that there are over 45,000 Christian denominations in the
world? This is according to the Center for the Study of global
Christianity. So welcome to the disbelievers for the witnessing of
a tremendous day.
Esmil RB him whatever silver Yama you tune in how clearly they will
hear and see on the day that they appear before us. Lacking it Vani
Munna yo Murphy Ebola the mobian but the transgressors today are in
manifest error will unveil at home yo man hustlers it is Cody Amaroo
we're homefree hafla tinware Humla up known, so warn them about the
day of regret when the matter will be decided. While they are in a
state of heedlessness and not believing in Nanaimo Natty, full
outdoor woman I lay what you name your to jell O and indeed we will
inherit the earth and those upon it and to us they will be returned
is just talking level head on. Thank you for listening.
May Allah Subhan Allah to Allah bless all of you accept all of
your prayers and fasting may Allah subhana wa to address all of your
families. May Allah subhanho wa Taala increase us and knowledge
may Allah Subhana Allah Allah
bless bless the entire world with his baraka and and guide our
children and and guide our spouses and our parents will solo they'll
say to Mohammed denwa Ali he was talking to Saddam, what hamdu
Lillahi Rabbil Alameen wa salam aleikum wa rahmatullah wa barakato