Tom Facchine – Israel’s Ceasefire Rejection, Nurse Fired for Gaza, and the Law of Sacrifice

Tom Facchine
AI: Summary © The umal is hosting an event to demonstrate the need to not be silent and stand up to guests. The speakers discuss the controversy surrounding peace deals and the negative impact of the recent president's actions, including his use of the term "pawn" and the negative impact of being against Muslims. They emphasize the importance of sharing food and rewarding oneself, finding a spiritual and logical place to live, and avoiding mixing with people. The speakers emphasize finding people who are willing to give money to help achieve their afterlife, finding a spiritual and logical place to live, and avoiding mixing with people.
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It's a pleasure to be with you this

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evening, at least in our part of the

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world, in our part of the Ummah. It's

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the evening. Wherever you're from, let us know.

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Drop us a comment

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in the chat.

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We'll be interacting. We've got a really, really

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interesting show lined up for us tonight.

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Obviously, we're gonna be talking about current events.

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Lots of stuff happening in the news. We've

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got a very special guest with us tonight,

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somebody who took a stand on principle and

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even was punished at their job for supporting

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Palestine.

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We've also we're nearing the conclusion of the

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2 books that we've been going through. We've

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got a lot to talk about, but first,

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let's see who we have with us tonight.

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We have some people that showed up from

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the very beginning. May Allah bless you. If

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you've noticed, yes, we've been off for 2

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weeks. And in addition to that, tonight we're

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running a little bit late because we've got

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big storms coming through the eastern half of

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the United States, so it delayed us for

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various reasons. May

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Allah grant everybody peace, safety and security,

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especially if you're on the roads.

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Wa Alaikum Salam, Wa Ta'alaam, Mrs. S.

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ZB

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Nancy Yahia, alaykum Assalamu wa rahtta Allah. From

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Egypt, from Masur, umudunya, welcome.

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Hope you're taking advantage of your pre Fajr

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time.

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Sabria Bint Jaffray from Colorado.

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Namaste, and welcome to the program. Hey, Kaudry

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from SoCal. Good to see you again here.

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It's nice to see the same people week

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in week out.

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MB from Hershey, PA.

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Welcome.

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We have Jerusalem Queen from Chicago.

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We've got Rasuati Rani from Malaysia.

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MSA from Portland, Oregon. Ronnie from Norway.

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Zamine from Livingston.

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More people, Dora,

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DeLoren from SoCal.

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Masha'alaikum.

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Cook with SK from Pakistan is in the

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bad.

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Maqsud, walaikum. South Africa.

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Excellent. We have such it is always, and

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I I always say this and I'll never

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shy away from saying it, that it is

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just beautiful to see the diversity of our

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Ummah and how even in the age that

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we live in, there's so much hardship and

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there's so much trial, and yet we can

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all come together in one platform at the

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same time and sort of share thoughts or

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there's a sort of concept,

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that some people talk about grounding with your

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brothers or grounding with your sisters, it means

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basically getting on the same page,

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swapping notes, seeing what is on everybody's mind.

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This is a very, very important thing to

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do, and we hope that the Yaqeen Institute

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livestream is a very, very small contribution to

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that.

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Someone from Ohio here from Ohio. I don't

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know you. Welcome to the program. Well, we

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do know you now. We know you're from

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Ohio.

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Amy from Senegal.

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Wa Alaikum Assalamu waftalla.

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I have some teachers from Senegal, a wonderful

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place I wish I can go someday, Insha'Allah.

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Sole Cyber,

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Canada in the house, alayhi wa sallam. Rehan

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Abu, alayhi wa sallam.

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Shafi from Florida, alayhi wa sallam. Rumi from

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Washington.

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I thought Rumi was from

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Persia. No. I'm just joking. Rumi from Washington.

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Welcome to the program. One stop at a

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time from Alabama.

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Allahu Akbar. Wa Alaykum Salam. Buona Sarah.

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Stobani Gracia Attika.

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Rahana Abu from India.

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Allahu Akbar. London.

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Iram from London.

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Khalilah from Virginia. Wow. Allahu Akbar. We got

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a lot of people tuning in from all

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over the Ummah today. Salaam.

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Savannah Willis from Mississippi. Glad that you are

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with us.

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We are doing whatever we can, and we

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hope that we are just demonstrating to people

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that this is not the time to be

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silent. It is the time to stand up

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and make your voice be heard and bear

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witness in front of Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala

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as to what is right and as to

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what is wrong. And that's very consonant and

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harmonious with the guests that we have,

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teed up for us tonight as well. Raffid

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Ahmed from Scotland. Excellent. Taheja time in Scotland.

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We don't wanna take away from your taheja,

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but we'll be here whenever you get back.

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Rade or Rade

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from New Jersey. Welcome, Nusrat Raza from Sweden.

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We've got Aminata

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from Pennsylvania,

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another from India.

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North Macedonia, CA.

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Ariana.

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Edmonton's

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in the house.

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Miami's in the house.

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Mass from Singapore.

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Excellent.

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Australia.

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Kim.

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From Salt Lake City.

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More people from headwinds coming in from Canada.

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Holistic momma from New Jersey.

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Excellent stuff. Manchester, England. I

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was given a lovely opportunity to visit Manchester

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in my tour in the UK in April,

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and I found Manchester,

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exceedingly charming. It was a wonderful place. I

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really enjoyed it. I only had 2 days

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there, but I'm wishing, I had more time

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there. We have folks from Havana,

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Muslim Fididh, masha'Allah. Some of the strongest students

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of knowledge I ever met from Magana.

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Emma Khan from Virginia.

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Beautiful. Well, we have a nice cross section

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of the Ummah here with us,

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tonight, and we welcome everybody and everybody who

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continues.

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Mariam from New York, other people, Pakistan. We

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welcome everybody,

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to the program. As I said, there's been

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a lot that's going on, a lot to

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talk about, and a very, very special

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guest that we have,

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to join us tonight. But first, what's been

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going on?

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The current events, obviously, our hearts and minds

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are still with the people of Gaza and

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Palestine.

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Now one of the things that has come

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about

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this week, and if the studio can bring

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up the image that we have,

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president Biden supposedly

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announced

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in a very sort of awkward way

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a ceasefire.

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Okay. You see here he tweeted on the

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official channel, not him. I don't believe that

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he actually is the one behind the keyboard,

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but his staff tweeted out on his behalf,

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our proposal to end the war in Gaza

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begins with a complete ceasefire, withdrawal of Israeli

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forces from all populated areas in Gaza, the

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release of hostages and hostage

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remains, the ability for Palestinians to return to

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Gaza and a surge of humanitarian assistance. Now

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what's interesting

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there's a lot of things that are interesting

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about this. One of them is note the

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difference in tone

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from a lot of the initial rhetoric put

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out by the Biden administration even even for

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the 1st several months,

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of the escalation of the occupation in Gaza,

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that

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we went from Israel has a right from

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to defend itself and our support for Israel

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is ironclad

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to Biden has made a succession of moves

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that where he's tried to portray himself

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as a peace broker and portray himself

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as a mediator and portray himself as somebody

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who is calling for a both sides sort

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of deal. Now this is straight hypocrisy, and

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we'll get to that in a second. But

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one of the more obvious and humorous things

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about this is that Biden claimed that this

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was the Israeli

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proposal for peace.

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And then Israel basically says, uh-uh. No. It's

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not. We don't agree to this. This is

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not something that we came up with ourselves.

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In fact, we reject it.

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Now it's significant. It's significant that they reject

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it because part of the

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propaganda narrative that Israel, the occupying force, has

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been trying to,

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drum into everybody's ears from the beginning is

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that the Palestinians don't want peace. The Palestinians

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don't want peace. Every single time we make

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an agreement or a peace deal, they break

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it. Now that's a lie, and anybody who

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knows the history of Palestine and the occupation

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of Palestine knows that it's a lie, but

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a lot of people don't. So a lot

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of people, unfortunately, were taken in by this

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sort of narrative. But now what we've seen

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time and time and time again is we

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have seen

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Israel been offered a peace deal or offer

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some sort of truce or offer some some

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sort of ceasefire, and they reject it out

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of hand. They said, no, we're not gonna

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do that. And we've seen the Palestinian factions

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and even the Palestinian factions from based within

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Gaza accept it and say, okay. Yeah. Let's

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do that. Okay. Let's do that. Even if

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it's not all of what they're asking for,

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they've been willing to accept these sorts of

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deals when Israel,

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has not.

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And in fact, they have then taken to

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social media and say that nothing will stop

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us and the ICC won't stop us and

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the ICJ won't stop us and the UN

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won't stop us and nobody can stop us.

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Insert evil laugh here. This has sort of

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been the attitude of Israel the entire time,

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which shows that which shows that the ability

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for its propaganda

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to work is severely diminished. The people are

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now easily seeing through this, that this is

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actually Israel is not only the aggressor, not

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only the instigator,

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but they have rejected

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time and time and time and time again,

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opportunities for peace and opportunities to stop the

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violence. But that's only the beginning of it.

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The last part and the one that I

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really wanted to emphasize is that

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despite the posturing

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of President Biden and despite the posturing of

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the DNC or of the US State Department

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or the executive branch.

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You can't be a mediator

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to a conflict that you are actively

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arming

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one side of it. That's just

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simple basic fact. So the entire posture

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is actually very insulting to my intelligence, and

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it's insulting to your intelligence as well. And

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I hope that you're insulted because I'm insulted

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to be able to stand up in front

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of a camera and pretend

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and pretend

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that he's not involved,

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to pretend that he's not sending all of

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the all of the he won't even condition

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military aid. He won't even stop sending

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offensive aid to Israel.

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And in the same breath, he wants to

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get on camera. And this is the attitude

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of the entire, you know, the vast majority,

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let's say, of the US government at this

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point

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and act like there are

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neutral parties to this conflict. You know, this

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is a very, very interesting sort of thing

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that happened

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on a certain talk show in the UK

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that I was invited to speak on. Some

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of you already know this. I was invited

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to speak on a certain show that is

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called uncensored, but in reality is quite censored.

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And

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I refused to do so. And part of

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my reasoning was exactly for this purpose that

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I said that

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you are pretending that you're a neutral party

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to the conflict when in reality you are

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anything but a neutral party

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to this conflict. And so

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the US cannot have its cake and eat

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it too. It cannot pretend to be the

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mediator

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and yet be arming one side to the

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teeth and

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completely

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criminalizing the other side entirely.

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That's just not gonna work.

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So we have now,

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in other news. Now in light of this,

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more and more people within Biden's staff are

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getting frustrated

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and,

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and dismayed by this attitude

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from the Biden administration, even within his own

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party. So I know we've got a lot

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of things here,

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that's to show the different staff members that

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have resigned from their positions.

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Right? We have, Tarek Habesh and Josh Paul

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and there's others you can keep rolling in

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the studio with the different people who have

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stepped down out of their disgust. And they're

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not just Muslims and Arabs that you would

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expect many Jews and other people, people who

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have, you know, no religion at all. They

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are people of conscience,

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people who know what is good and what

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is evil when they see it, and they

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know that the president is involved in very,

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very, very evil things here,

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and that he doesn't he's not misinformed.

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In fact, he is,

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an active participant

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in and has got his hands deeply involved

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in everything that is going on. And so

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people continue. They continue to drop out one

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of the more recent ones right here, Lily

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Greenberg, special assistant to the chief of

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staff. And so we're happy by this, that

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we think that anybody who's remaining with Biden,

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maybe for the first couple months, you could

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have given the excuse that you thought you

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would be able to to to push the

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the the policy this way or push the

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policy that way, but it has come out

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and it is obvious that there is no

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bigger friend to Israel than the current president

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of the United States. And that if you

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especially if you're a Muslim and you have

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a position

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within the staff that your presence is legitimizing

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that man, the president of the United States,

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and what he is doing to your brothers

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and sisters in Gaza and in Palestine. And

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we hope and and we would hope that

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you would stand up and

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refuse to let yourself be used as a

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pawn or to let yourself be used as

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a PR stunt or let yourself be used

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as a diversity hire so that you are

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now legitimizing what the Biden

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is doing and they can say that, oh,

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well, we have Muslims and we have Palestinians

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in our staff, and so how could we

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be against Muslims and Palestinians?

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Don't allow them that.

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That if you have the ability and if

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you have the courage,

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what are you waiting for? That we would

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hope that you would take a similar stand

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as these courageous men and women have. Now

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with that being said, we're gonna transition now.

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And actually maybe I'll run through the comments

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and see if there's any outstanding questions before

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we transition from that to our last news

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story of the day, and that's gonna take

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us into our guest where somebody who did

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take a stand and did so in a

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very, very powerful way.

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But first, let's see what we have here.

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I know a lot of people joined in

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the chat as we are going.

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From Pakistan.

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Mariam from New York. Okay. We got there.

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Dallas in the house. Fariel Mohammed, welcome. Sarasota,

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Florida. James Martin, welcome.

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Abdullah Abdullah is the the man with the

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plan behind the scenes. We're we're happy that

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Abdullah was delivered to us safely through the

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storm, and he's our cameraman here. He does

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an amazing job along with Omar Habakk and

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the rest of the team. Thank you to

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everybody.

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Is there faith meditation? Is there any way

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for me to meet Omar Suleiman Fisa Bilillah?

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Inshallah and Jannah.

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Carmen Birx, walaikum Assalamu alaikum Assalamu alaikum from

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Kentucky.

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Kentucky is a beautiful state.

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Let's see who else we have. Walaikum Assalam.

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Excellent. Excellent. Excellent. Ayyan. Walaikum Assalam, Walaikum Assalam.

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Okay. We've gotten through it. I'm not gonna

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comment on on some of the questions to

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do with cursing and things like that. I

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think if you know, you know.

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Okay. Excellent.

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Yes. Amin Omar may Allah replace what they

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have given up through their resignation

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with that which is better.

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From London.

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Okay. Very good. So, with that being said,

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our final

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sort of story here, and it's gonna transition

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us into our guest, was there was a

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nurse,

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serving in New York City,

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one of the hospitals run by NYU, the

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New York University,

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who was fired this week

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for calling a spade a spade, for calling

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it a genocide. Now

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and we've got I think we've got an

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image right there we go. We've got a

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quote here from the speech. It pains me

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to see the women

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from my country going through unimaginable losses themselves

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during the current genocide.

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Now what I find crazy about this story

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is that sister this is sister Hassan Jaber.

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Sister Hassan was fired for a speech that

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she made receiving an award for her excellence.

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Can you imagine that you are now being

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praised by your employer in one moment for

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doing an excellent job and you're being given

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an award?

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And then

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in the next breath, the next time you

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actually the next time she came back to

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work,

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her

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employer decided to fire her because she called

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it what it was. Now if you read

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some of the articles,

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it's I find it really fascinating. I'm gonna

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read a couple statements before we bring her

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on here for a sec.

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She one of the justifications of her employer

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was that she was, quote, unquote, bringing politics

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into the workplace. And I hope by the

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end of our segment here, you realize what

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a

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a crime and, what hypocritical nonsense this is.

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In a statement,

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Steve Ritaya, a spokesperson person

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for NYU,

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this hospital said,

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Hassan Jabber was warned in December following a

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previous incident not to bring her views on

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this divisive and charged issue into the workplace.

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She instead chose not to heed that at

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a recent employee recognition event that was widely

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attended by her colleagues, some of whom were

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upset after her comments.

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As a result, Jabra is no longer an

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NYU Langone employee. That is the official statement

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from her employer.

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Obviously, this touches on so many issues that

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are going on right now. And with that,

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I think we have do we have a

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video from her speech?

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Lucien, you're a 100% correct. You're allowed to

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bring a religion into the conversation, but you

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get fired from entering politics.

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Do if we don't have a video for

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the speech, then we're just gonna keep rolling

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with it. Let's bring her let's bring her

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into the studio and welcome sister Hassan to

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the program.

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I can tell you right now that everybody

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who's watching is extremely proud of you. I'm

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extremely proud of you. Exactly.

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Yeah. I mean, it's a very, very noble

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stand,

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to take.

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I want to get your

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reaction to this ludicrous statement put out by

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your

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employer

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about bringing politics into the workplace.

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You know,

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they have the power to speak and they

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essentially silenced you. So if we're giving you

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the mic back and say,

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what do you say to that to this

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poor excuse

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that they've offered here?

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Honestly, at this point, there were no words,

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and that's how it ended when they called

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me into the office for

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my 4th, 5th, 6th interrogation.

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That was my response to them was,

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where do we go from here? We're just

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gonna keep going around in circles. I was

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I was done.

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The last 8 months

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have been very challenging,

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but

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it was my own

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form of, I guess, you can call it

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retribution for what's going on right now overseas.

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You know, having to

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go to work in the belly of the

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beast every day,

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and having to deal with that and

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make my presence known to them even though

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it made them uncomfortable

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was

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enough, I guess, for me at the time.

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Growing up as a Palestinian in America and

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growing up as a Muslim in America,

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I, I had a I have a mother

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who's, very

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strong,

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in the sense that she

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she raised us to always be proud of

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our identity and to never hide or shy

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away from it. So,

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I'm sure NYU got more than they bargained

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for when,

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they hired him, Hijabi. I'm pretty sure they

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wouldn't have hired me if they knew I

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was Palestinian.

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I've always been vocal about Palestine.

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I've always posted about it on social media.

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Clearly, since October 7th,

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it became a divisive issue because the the

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the opposing opinion

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is, of course, louder, stronger

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in in

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the place that I live. So,

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yeah, by the time it was all said

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and done, I was just a little defeated,

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I I guess is the word. I wasn't

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shocked.

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I fought hard until the end because,

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you know, every time they did interrogate me,

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I used it as an opportunity to appeal

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to their humanity, appeal to my humanity. You

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know?

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Let them know that here I am, a

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Palestinian, probably the only Palestinian you've ever encountered,

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in your Zionist institution,

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at least knowingly.

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So here I am. Do I seem scary

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to you? Right. And Yes.

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I think that's why it lasted 8 months.

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I think because I was

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I feel like I was able to,

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articulate

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my stance in in ways that made them,

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you know, second guess that every time I

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felt it coming every time I got called

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into HR.

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But, yeah, ultimately, it was the speech and

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the people who are sitting in the audience.

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Robert Grossman, the dean and CEO,

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was sitting in that audience, and

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I'm sure he didn't love hearing about Palestine.

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And the fact that I was given a

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platform

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as a Palestinian

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and able to say that in their institution

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in the belly of the beast, it it

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I'm sure it rubbed them the wrong way.

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So Yes. And and that was one of

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the fascinating things. The more articles I read

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and sort of the the deeper that I

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dug into the story that this individual, particularly

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the CEO, Robert Grossman,

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was found

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exposed in a previous suit against,

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his institution from using crude terms to criticize

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pro Palestinian

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protests.

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Right? And not and not only that, but

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these emails were sent to other employees, your

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employees.

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So Mhmm. That

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is it's rather rich that he's going to

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accuse you of bringing politics into the workplace

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and accuse you of being divisive

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when he in fact is bringing politics into

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the workplace. He in fact is being divisive.

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And really, it's just about he doesn't like

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your position and he's looking for a way

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to sort of punish you.

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Yeah.

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And you had been from what I understand,

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you had been told by other, an employee,

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a fellow employee at one point that Palestine

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doesn't exist,

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and that you have other employees

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that have posted,

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very, very brazenly on their social media in

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support of Israel and Zionism.

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So is this something that, you know,

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the

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the the institution just looks the other way

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at? Is it something that what's sort of

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the the take of the institution here?

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Yeah. So

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the first time that HR contacted me, it

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was in regards to this particular coworker who

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had filed a complaint against me while she

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was on maternity leave. She wasn't even working

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at the time.

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I confronted her,

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offline, off, off NYU grounds. I had nothing

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to do with my job, but she was

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posting some

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insightful

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posts, basically,

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celebrating

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the hospitals that were getting bombed, and

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the death tolls of the children were starting

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to emerge. And here you here we have

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this new mother who's saying, yeah. Let's collect

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some money for the IDF so they can

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continue their mission.

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So I confronted her about it,

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and she didn't respond to me. And I

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knew I I inherently knew. Like, I I

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I felt it.

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When I went to

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work about a week later, I got called

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into HR, and they wouldn't tell me what

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it was about.

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And, they actually by the time they spoke

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to me and I told them my version

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of events that this person, when I was

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training them

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2 years ago, told me Philistine doesn't exist

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when she asked me where I'm from.

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Their their initial response was shock, and they

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asked me if I wanted to file a

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counter complaint.

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And at that point, I had told them,

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no. I I'm not interested in anybody losing

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their livelihood over this. I just wanna come

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to work, and I wanna go home without

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any drama.

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I I did tell them, you know,

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my politics don't align with the politics of

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this institution,

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but

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you guys shouldn't be

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talking to me about my politics. I come

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here and I do my job. I don't

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bring my politics to work.

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So that's how it started.

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Wow. And then

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it just

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increased every time it got it it became

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more

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surreal with each time that they called me.

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You know, one of my coworkers I don't

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know who it had to have been a

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coworker because my social media is private,

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gave HR access to my Instagram account. And

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they just picked through my Instagram account asking

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me to explain myself on certain pro Palestinian

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posts,

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and I did. I complied. I complied

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each time, prepared to lose my job. Every

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time I come into work, I check my

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email to make sure I'm employed

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because I felt it.

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It definitely became more charged in the workplace

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and more polarized.

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A lot of coworkers most of my coworkers

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were sympathetic, but everyone is scared to speak

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up. That's just the culture

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of that place. So,

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yeah, it was isolating, but I stayed true

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to to my principles, my values, my identity.

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So,

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you know One one of the things that

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that,

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I think is symbolically

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significant is that you just wanted to be

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left alone. Right? You just wanted to to

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go about your business. But

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how aggressive

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Zionists are and how aggressive the others like,

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they're not even willing I I just can't,

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like, you know, imagine somebody. You said that

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this particular individual is on maternity leave. Imagine

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being on maternity leave, and you've got nothing

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better to do than count

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the and and rejoice and celebrate the murder

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of children across the world. Like, what kind

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of person does that? Like, it shows you

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the level of dehumanization.

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It shows you the amount of indoctrination. Like,

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you you seem to indicate that when you

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trained her, she had never met a Palestinian

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or had any experience

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or exposure to anybody from, you know, that

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was outside of her sort of narrow worldview.

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And

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just that

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not even being

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able to tolerate

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difference.

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Right? It's like like you exist in a

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workspace and you have this sort of politics

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and this sort of identity,

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and they're not even willing to accept that.

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Right? So

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that that's

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extremely important, but

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it's almost you know, the silver lining, at

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least for me in a way, is that

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all of those other coworkers that you had

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that were afraid to speak up or who

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still are afraid to speak up, you basically

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when you were pushed, right, and all of

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the buttons that they use, the HR tools

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and the policies and whatever they tried to

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the intimidation tactics

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are all meant to silence you. They're all

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exactly like you said, put you in the

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situation where every day going to work, do

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I still have a job? What am I

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going to do? How am I going to

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support myself? And that's meant to silence you.

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And yet here you are and you weren't

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silenced. So

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what is responsible for that? Did you ever

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worry about what am I gonna do for

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a job or, like like, take us through

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that process. What were you able to draw

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on that kind of just left you sort

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of,

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not affected by that sort of fear tactic?

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I wouldn't say I wasn't affected, but

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I

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knew that I had to keep mobilizing. I

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couldn't be paralyzed by that fear.

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So I started looking for jobs. Like, I

00:27:14 --> 00:27:16

I dropped my hours to part time anyway

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there because

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at one point, I got doxed. I was

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concerned for my safety, which I told HR,

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you know,

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my mental and physical health was being affected.

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My job performance was being affected. But at

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one point, when I was doxed and my

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private information

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was made public, I

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became scared for my safety.

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And HR's responses every time were like, well,

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you're anti Semitic.

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You need to take down your posts. Wow.

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We'll look into your grievances. That was

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essentially like, eventually, I did I did ask

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to file a grievance for about that coworker,

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about previous incidents with other coworkers,

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and their response to me is,

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you're being anti Semitic. You're being intimidating, harassing,

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threatening. You need to fix your issue, and

00:28:03 --> 00:28:04

we'll look into your grievances

00:28:04 --> 00:28:07

Wow. As an afterthought. So I dropped my

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hours to part time and started

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looking for something else just because I felt

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unsafe.

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SubhanAllah.

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You know,

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nursing is a very lucrative job. So I'm

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I'm I'm very grateful

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that I don't have to worry about that.

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So,

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you know, small fish compared to the bigger

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picture here.

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Right. And I totally you know, I think

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a lot of us really resonate with what

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you said about how

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we wish we could do more. Like, we

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see every day what's going on in Palestine

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and what's going on in Gaza. And it's

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almost like it's almost like we wish we

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could be there. Right? Even just just to,

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just the amount of solidarity that we have,

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it hurts that we feel so powerless. And

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so

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it's almost

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it's almost a release in some sort of

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way to be given an opportunity to do

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something here and to take a stand in

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our own small way or in our own

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you know, and not to minimize, obviously, what

00:29:01 --> 00:29:03

you did is tremendous. But in in our

00:29:03 --> 00:29:05

own way, to be able to,

00:29:06 --> 00:29:06

to contribute

00:29:07 --> 00:29:09

to contribute to that. So if there was

00:29:09 --> 00:29:11

somebody who was in a similar situation right

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now,

00:29:12 --> 00:29:14

as you are or you were 1 month

00:29:14 --> 00:29:17

ago, 2 months ago, 3 months ago, what

00:29:17 --> 00:29:18

would you say to them as advice?

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Nothing is guaranteed.

00:29:23 --> 00:29:25

So do whatever your

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your heart

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what what your heart tells you to do,

00:29:29 --> 00:29:30

what your fitra tells you to do. And

00:29:30 --> 00:29:32

for me as a Muslim and as a

00:29:32 --> 00:29:33

Palestinian,

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it's always to stand by by truth. You

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know, I was raised on the hadith,

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about, you know,

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So if I can't change things with my

00:29:50 --> 00:29:53

bare hands, then I can speak up.

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And that's where I stopped. Like, I could

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speak up.

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I accepted the consequences fully, like,

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my iman really was

00:30:02 --> 00:30:04

heightened during this whole thing.

00:30:05 --> 00:30:06

And that's something that I had made in

00:30:06 --> 00:30:09

my post. I actually made that point in

00:30:09 --> 00:30:10

my post when I

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advertised on Instagram that this had happened was

00:30:13 --> 00:30:15

I don't think people realize

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that

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when we're tried as Muslims,

00:30:19 --> 00:30:21

our faith what what we understand, we internalize

00:30:21 --> 00:30:24

that our faith is being tested, and it

00:30:24 --> 00:30:26

makes you closer to Allah. It doesn't it

00:30:26 --> 00:30:28

it only makes you more resolute and stronger,

00:30:30 --> 00:30:32

or more stubborn depending on who you ask.

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But Maybe both.

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Yeah.

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So,

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yeah,

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I'm I'm grateful

00:30:47 --> 00:30:48

Well, that's

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Yeah. I don't know about you, but, I

00:30:50 --> 00:30:52

mean, in the opportunities or the the moments

00:30:52 --> 00:30:54

that I've had where I I sacrificed

00:30:55 --> 00:30:55

something,

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or somebody tried to intimidate me and I

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refused to back down,

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there is almost like a freedom that comes

00:31:01 --> 00:31:02

to it.

00:31:02 --> 00:31:04

Right? Because, like, when you're

00:31:05 --> 00:31:07

policing yourself, and that's what they want at

00:31:07 --> 00:31:08

the end of the day. They want you

00:31:08 --> 00:31:09

to police yourself.

00:31:09 --> 00:31:12

Right? You feel like the world is very

00:31:12 --> 00:31:13

tight and there's not a lot of room

00:31:13 --> 00:31:14

to maneuver.

00:31:14 --> 00:31:16

And then all of a sudden when you

00:31:16 --> 00:31:18

realize that, no, I'm gonna stand on my

00:31:18 --> 00:31:19

principles.

00:31:19 --> 00:31:21

I believe Allah is gonna provide one way

00:31:21 --> 00:31:24

or another. I believe in his power. I'm

00:31:24 --> 00:31:25

gonna just take it.

00:31:25 --> 00:31:26

It's

00:31:26 --> 00:31:29

like, you know, it's like office space when

00:31:29 --> 00:31:31

he was hypnotized and the the psychiatrist keeled

00:31:31 --> 00:31:32

over. Right? It's like he's like, you're you're

00:31:32 --> 00:31:34

you're you're set free. You're you're liberated.

00:31:35 --> 00:31:37

I don't know about you, but I've I've

00:31:37 --> 00:31:38

felt that way. So,

00:31:38 --> 00:31:40

I hope that that you've felt that way,

00:31:40 --> 00:31:42

and I hope that other people that are

00:31:42 --> 00:31:44

watching understand that, yeah Allah is going to

00:31:44 --> 00:31:46

send stuff your way. He's going to send

00:31:46 --> 00:31:48

you opportunities and you might be worried and

00:31:48 --> 00:31:51

feel afraid and why me? But actually Allah

00:31:51 --> 00:31:52

is trying to give you a way to

00:31:52 --> 00:31:54

break out of the prison of fear and

00:31:54 --> 00:31:56

the breakout of the prison of, like, people

00:31:56 --> 00:31:58

trying to control you through this and that.

00:31:59 --> 00:31:59

100%.

00:32:00 --> 00:32:02

Wonderful story. Great reflections.

00:32:02 --> 00:32:04

Is there anything you'd like to leave the

00:32:04 --> 00:32:06

audience with before before you sign off?

00:32:08 --> 00:32:11

Keep making dua for Palestine. I really feel

00:32:11 --> 00:32:13

like change is coming. I do.

00:32:13 --> 00:32:15

I just had a press conference this morning,

00:32:15 --> 00:32:16

and

00:32:18 --> 00:32:21

it was with my attorney and speaking about

00:32:21 --> 00:32:24

how we need to hold these giants these

00:32:24 --> 00:32:25

these institutions accountable.

00:32:26 --> 00:32:28

And they do the the reason that they

00:32:28 --> 00:32:29

behave the way they the way that they

00:32:29 --> 00:32:31

do is because they feel like they're invincible,

00:32:32 --> 00:32:34

and they're not. They're not they're not God's

00:32:34 --> 00:32:36

stuff. Like, they're just

00:32:37 --> 00:32:37

they're they're

00:32:38 --> 00:32:41

completely fallible just like anybody and anything else.

00:32:41 --> 00:32:42

You know?

00:32:42 --> 00:32:43

So

00:32:43 --> 00:32:44

always speak up.

00:32:45 --> 00:32:47

Wonderful. Sister Heslin, thank you so much for

00:32:47 --> 00:32:49

joining us in the program. We ask Allah

00:32:49 --> 00:32:52

to replace whatever you lost with more and

00:32:52 --> 00:32:54

better and to continue to strengthen you and

00:32:54 --> 00:32:56

use you for the ways in which that

00:32:56 --> 00:32:58

he loves and for the liberation of Philistine.

00:32:59 --> 00:33:01

I agree. I feel like something really big

00:33:01 --> 00:33:03

is coming. I hope it's not just my

00:33:03 --> 00:33:04

optimism, but,

00:33:04 --> 00:33:07

I'm honored that you and I and other

00:33:07 --> 00:33:09

people get to be just even a tiny,

00:33:09 --> 00:33:11

tiny, tiny part of that. So thank you

00:33:11 --> 00:33:11

again.

00:33:18 --> 00:33:20

We will be tested as Allah subhanahu wa

00:33:20 --> 00:33:22

ta'ala said in the beginning of the first

00:33:22 --> 00:33:23

page of Surat Al An Kabut. Did you

00:33:23 --> 00:33:25

think that you would be left alone to

00:33:25 --> 00:33:27

say that you believe and not be tested?

00:33:27 --> 00:33:29

And then later down Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala

00:33:29 --> 00:33:31

explains the reason why He tests us, the

00:33:31 --> 00:33:33

reason why He puts us through this trouble

00:33:33 --> 00:33:35

in the first place is to differentiate,

00:33:36 --> 00:33:38

is to differentiate from the people who

00:33:39 --> 00:33:41

really walk the walk for the people who

00:33:41 --> 00:33:44

just talk the talk. Right? That anybody can

00:33:44 --> 00:33:45

say they believe, they can say they stand

00:33:45 --> 00:33:47

on business, they can say that they have

00:33:47 --> 00:33:48

principles,

00:33:48 --> 00:33:50

but the only people who really have principles

00:33:50 --> 00:33:51

are the people who,

00:33:52 --> 00:33:55

what, they stand on them when they have

00:33:55 --> 00:33:56

something to lose,

00:33:56 --> 00:33:58

when they stand on them when they have

00:33:58 --> 00:34:00

something to lose. And the sister's a great

00:34:00 --> 00:34:02

example of that, and we hope that Allah

00:34:02 --> 00:34:03

helps her,

00:34:03 --> 00:34:05

and accepts from all of us.

00:34:05 --> 00:34:06

Let's run through,

00:34:07 --> 00:34:08

see a lot of people

00:34:10 --> 00:34:11

a lot of

00:34:12 --> 00:34:13

people joining in. Yes. Okay. A lot of

00:34:13 --> 00:34:15

great conversation here.

00:34:18 --> 00:34:20

Rima Chaudhry brings up a great point. I

00:34:20 --> 00:34:21

love that you mentioned that. How can they

00:34:21 --> 00:34:25

be uncomfortable by you and not be uncomfortable

00:34:25 --> 00:34:25

with genocide?

00:34:26 --> 00:34:29

That is a fantastic point. And, that's exactly

00:34:29 --> 00:34:32

the whole thing. They'll use the language of

00:34:32 --> 00:34:34

you're making people uncomfortable.

00:34:34 --> 00:34:35

You're upsetting people.

00:34:36 --> 00:34:38

We're upset. We're upset because we see babies

00:34:38 --> 00:34:40

blown to bits every single day. How come

00:34:40 --> 00:34:42

you're not upset? If you're not upset by

00:34:42 --> 00:34:44

this, we might do something to make you

00:34:44 --> 00:34:47

upset in order to actually see that you're

00:34:47 --> 00:34:49

alive and you have a heart.

00:34:53 --> 00:34:54

Very good. Excellent.

00:34:57 --> 00:34:59

Universal praise and support all around.

00:34:59 --> 00:35:01

Very good commentary, everybody.

00:35:02 --> 00:35:04

Okay. I think we're gonna keep this show

00:35:04 --> 00:35:04

moving.

00:35:09 --> 00:35:11

Yeah. That's true. Testify and notice that as

00:35:11 --> 00:35:13

well. Maldives announced to ban,

00:35:14 --> 00:35:16

Israeli passports from entering in the country, and

00:35:16 --> 00:35:17

and there's several countries that have done as

00:35:17 --> 00:35:18

well.

00:35:18 --> 00:35:20

Now the United States is sanctioning

00:35:20 --> 00:35:23

you guys. May Allah keep you strong.

00:35:23 --> 00:35:24

May Allah keep you strong.

00:35:25 --> 00:35:27

That anything this is the time for principle

00:35:27 --> 00:35:28

and this is the time for courage. This

00:35:28 --> 00:35:30

is the time to stand on your principles.

00:35:34 --> 00:35:36

And I agree. I don't know you,

00:35:36 --> 00:35:38

though we're knowing you better and better. If

00:35:38 --> 00:35:40

you're not upset with Palestine, you're simply not

00:35:40 --> 00:35:42

a human being. You've been dehumanized.

00:35:43 --> 00:35:44

You have some work to do.

00:35:45 --> 00:35:47

Excellent. Well, with that being said, we're gonna

00:35:47 --> 00:35:49

transition to our next segment here,

00:35:49 --> 00:35:51

which is actually a nice little announcement for

00:35:51 --> 00:35:53

Yakin Institute is trying to put out a

00:35:53 --> 00:35:54

lot more

00:35:54 --> 00:35:57

educational content when it comes to participation

00:35:57 --> 00:35:59

in politics. Obviously, it's on a lot of

00:35:59 --> 00:36:00

people's minds. So I know we've got an

00:36:00 --> 00:36:02

image here. A new,

00:36:03 --> 00:36:05

I believe a new blog post by doctor

00:36:05 --> 00:36:07

Oweimer Engem has dropped

00:36:07 --> 00:36:09

in this past week or a couple of

00:36:09 --> 00:36:10

weeks.

00:36:11 --> 00:36:12

Right.

00:36:12 --> 00:36:15

What should Muslims in America do? And it's

00:36:15 --> 00:36:17

got some tips, some very, very important tips

00:36:17 --> 00:36:18

for activism for Palestine.

00:36:19 --> 00:36:21

And what will happen if we don't? This

00:36:21 --> 00:36:22

is something that a lot of people,

00:36:22 --> 00:36:25

they they lose sight of in these conversations.

00:36:25 --> 00:36:27

A lot of people there's a lot of

00:36:27 --> 00:36:29

mixed messages. There's some people that are saying

00:36:29 --> 00:36:29

that,

00:36:29 --> 00:36:32

protesting is haram or encampments are haram or

00:36:32 --> 00:36:33

that you can't do this or that you

00:36:33 --> 00:36:35

can't do that. There are some people that

00:36:35 --> 00:36:37

show up to encampments or they show up

00:36:37 --> 00:36:37

to,

00:36:39 --> 00:36:42

or they would show up to particular actions

00:36:42 --> 00:36:44

or whatever, and they don't like what they

00:36:44 --> 00:36:46

see. They don't like the allies quote unquote

00:36:46 --> 00:36:47

or they don't like the other people that

00:36:47 --> 00:36:48

are participating

00:36:48 --> 00:36:50

or the politics of the other people who

00:36:50 --> 00:36:52

are participating. Is that a reason to not

00:36:52 --> 00:36:54

go? Is that a reason to not participate

00:36:54 --> 00:36:56

in the movement? Whatever. Right?

00:36:56 --> 00:36:58

That's all discussed in the blog post. Highly

00:36:58 --> 00:37:00

recommend you read it. We've got a nice

00:37:00 --> 00:37:01

little quote here that prophet said,

00:37:02 --> 00:37:04

The believer who mixes with people and patiently

00:37:04 --> 00:37:06

endures their harm is better than the one

00:37:06 --> 00:37:07

who does not mix with people and endure

00:37:07 --> 00:37:08

their harm.

00:37:08 --> 00:37:10

Consider that hadith. A hadith probably most of

00:37:10 --> 00:37:13

you already know. Consider that when you show

00:37:13 --> 00:37:15

up to an encampment. Consider that when you

00:37:15 --> 00:37:18

show up to a protest. That

00:37:18 --> 00:37:19

there it's a

00:37:20 --> 00:37:22

a a a false criteria to imagine

00:37:23 --> 00:37:26

that there has to be absolutely no harm

00:37:26 --> 00:37:27

involved

00:37:27 --> 00:37:29

in a protest or in a demonstration or

00:37:29 --> 00:37:30

an encampment for you to participate in it.

00:37:30 --> 00:37:33

In fact, the Sharia operates off of what's

00:37:33 --> 00:37:36

called probabilistic reasoning, meaning that something does not

00:37:36 --> 00:37:37

have to be 100%,

00:37:38 --> 00:37:39

halal

00:37:39 --> 00:37:42

or 100% good, let's say, in order for

00:37:42 --> 00:37:42

it to

00:37:43 --> 00:37:44

be halal. And something does not have to

00:37:44 --> 00:37:47

be 100% evil in order for it to

00:37:47 --> 00:37:48

be haram. And we have proof from this

00:37:48 --> 00:37:49

from the Quran. Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala says

00:37:49 --> 00:37:52

in Surat Al Baqarah that alcohol has manafi'ilines,

00:37:53 --> 00:37:55

that there are benefits to alcohol and yet

00:37:55 --> 00:37:57

the harms outweigh the benefits and therefore it's

00:37:57 --> 00:37:57

haram.

00:37:58 --> 00:37:59

Just as there are things within the sharia

00:37:59 --> 00:38:01

that are permissible even though they have harm

00:38:02 --> 00:38:04

even though they have harm, the good outweighs

00:38:04 --> 00:38:06

the benefits. So these types of things these

00:38:06 --> 00:38:08

types of things are part of the calculus.

00:38:08 --> 00:38:10

Now we have another quote here. Participation in

00:38:10 --> 00:38:13

protests against oppression is required as it falls

00:38:13 --> 00:38:14

in the category of

00:38:17 --> 00:38:19

prohibiting evil, which is an obligation upon the

00:38:19 --> 00:38:22

Muslims, and it constitutes giving help to the

00:38:22 --> 00:38:24

oppressed, which is also required.

00:38:24 --> 00:38:27

And as for the other things that you

00:38:27 --> 00:38:29

might be concerned about that might be incidental,

00:38:30 --> 00:38:33

meaning non essential haram elements that could happen,

00:38:33 --> 00:38:35

mixing of genders, etcetera,

00:38:35 --> 00:38:38

that thing is impermissible whether it's inside of

00:38:38 --> 00:38:39

a protest or outside of a protest. And

00:38:39 --> 00:38:41

this is the thing that I always bring

00:38:41 --> 00:38:42

back to people, and I have been to

00:38:42 --> 00:38:43

a lot of different types of protests. And

00:38:43 --> 00:38:45

I will tell you that

00:38:45 --> 00:38:47

the protests that the Muslims

00:38:47 --> 00:38:48

take charge of

00:38:49 --> 00:38:49

and

00:38:50 --> 00:38:52

organize themselves are the best protests I've ever

00:38:52 --> 00:38:54

been to. They are respectful.

00:38:55 --> 00:38:57

They are according to our values. They are

00:38:57 --> 00:38:58

family friendly.

00:38:58 --> 00:38:59

They are,

00:38:59 --> 00:39:00

wholesome.

00:39:00 --> 00:39:04

Right? Whereas the protests that we allow other

00:39:04 --> 00:39:06

people to organize for us and we don't

00:39:06 --> 00:39:07

even participate

00:39:08 --> 00:39:09

in a way that,

00:39:10 --> 00:39:11

where we don't have a critical mass of

00:39:11 --> 00:39:14

participation in them, those are the protests that

00:39:14 --> 00:39:16

are the most problematic. Those are the ones

00:39:16 --> 00:39:18

with the elements that we don't want to

00:39:18 --> 00:39:19

be seen with. Those are the ones with

00:39:19 --> 00:39:22

the slogans and the actions that violate our

00:39:22 --> 00:39:24

values as Muslims. And so is the situation

00:39:24 --> 00:39:26

call for an abandonment

00:39:27 --> 00:39:28

of political engagement,

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or does it call for increased political engagement?

00:39:33 --> 00:39:36

Does it call for a new level of

00:39:36 --> 00:39:38

engagement where we stop we stop being consumers

00:39:39 --> 00:39:42

of other people's political organizing, and we start

00:39:42 --> 00:39:44

being ones to take charge of this issue,

00:39:44 --> 00:39:45

which is really

00:39:46 --> 00:39:47

our issue.

00:39:51 --> 00:39:52

Good point, MB.

00:39:53 --> 00:39:53

Thank you

00:39:54 --> 00:39:55

for the props.

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Mustafa, I'm sympathetic. Yes. There are unfortunately a

00:40:00 --> 00:40:01

lot of people,

00:40:04 --> 00:40:06

a lot of people that look for any

00:40:06 --> 00:40:07

excuse as I brought up one time to

00:40:07 --> 00:40:09

some brother, it's like, some people don't have

00:40:09 --> 00:40:11

any problem with gender mixing until it comes

00:40:11 --> 00:40:12

to a protest.

00:40:13 --> 00:40:15

Some people don't have any problem with any

00:40:15 --> 00:40:18

of these concerns, music, etcetera, except when it

00:40:18 --> 00:40:19

comes to a protest. And we've seen in

00:40:19 --> 00:40:21

the Quran time and time again, especially in

00:40:21 --> 00:40:24

surahs like Surat At Tawba, where we have

00:40:24 --> 00:40:27

people who make excuses to not go forth,

00:40:27 --> 00:40:29

make excuses to not,

00:40:30 --> 00:40:30

indicate

00:40:31 --> 00:40:32

their and this is actually mentioned by doctor

00:40:32 --> 00:40:34

O'Weimar in the blog post, which I highly

00:40:34 --> 00:40:36

recommend you leave. Maybe we could the studio,

00:40:36 --> 00:40:37

if you guys can drop that link,

00:40:37 --> 00:40:39

in the chat, where

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one of the excuses you find, I believe

00:40:42 --> 00:40:44

in Surat Atoba, where the people who said

00:40:44 --> 00:40:45

that they wouldn't go out with the prophet

00:40:45 --> 00:40:47

sallallahu alaihi wasallam for struggling in the way

00:40:47 --> 00:40:49

of Allah. They said that we we were

00:40:49 --> 00:40:50

afraid of fitna. We were afraid we're gonna

00:40:50 --> 00:40:52

fall into fitna. And then Allah responded

00:40:53 --> 00:40:56

so beautifully, so beautifully, Allah fil fitna tisakatuh.

00:40:57 --> 00:40:59

Like, haven't they already fallen into fitna by

00:40:59 --> 00:41:01

making this excuse to not go in the

00:41:01 --> 00:41:01

first place?

00:41:02 --> 00:41:04

We call that an uno reverse.

00:41:05 --> 00:41:07

So we encourage you

00:41:08 --> 00:41:10

to read it, Speaking Truth to Power, Islamic

00:41:10 --> 00:41:12

Rules for Protests, Civil Disobedience, and Encampments for

00:41:12 --> 00:41:14

Iqaza. And I am currently working on,

00:41:15 --> 00:41:16

some things that are specifically

00:41:17 --> 00:41:19

specifically addressing the issue of allyship and how

00:41:19 --> 00:41:22

to navigate allyship and how we can sort

00:41:22 --> 00:41:22

of,

00:41:23 --> 00:41:25

use our critical mass in order to steer

00:41:25 --> 00:41:27

that ship and not be drawn in by

00:41:27 --> 00:41:29

other people who don't represent our values and

00:41:29 --> 00:41:31

shouldn't be representing us at all.

00:41:35 --> 00:41:37

And with that, I think we're moving on

00:41:37 --> 00:41:38

now to

00:41:38 --> 00:41:40

our next segment. We've got

00:41:40 --> 00:41:43

our end segment, our actions of the day

00:41:43 --> 00:41:44

and night. We're nearing the end.

00:41:46 --> 00:41:48

But before that, it's important to notice this

00:41:48 --> 00:41:51

part of the the calendar year. We are

00:41:51 --> 00:41:53

right upon the beginning of Dhul Hijjah,

00:41:54 --> 00:41:56

the sacred month of Dhul Hijjah,

00:41:57 --> 00:41:59

which depending on your your moon sighting,

00:41:59 --> 00:42:00

position,

00:42:00 --> 00:42:02

let's just say it's gonna start very soon

00:42:02 --> 00:42:04

within the next couple days. And then this

00:42:04 --> 00:42:06

is the start of the pilgrimage season.

00:42:07 --> 00:42:09

It is the month of the Hajj. And

00:42:09 --> 00:42:10

so this is where,

00:42:11 --> 00:42:13

millions of people all across the world will

00:42:13 --> 00:42:15

be converging upon Mecca to excuse me, to

00:42:15 --> 00:42:18

complete their pilgrims' rights. But don't worry. If

00:42:18 --> 00:42:20

you're not going to Hajj this year, which

00:42:20 --> 00:42:22

many of us aren't, I'm not for example,

00:42:23 --> 00:42:25

then there are other things that you can

00:42:25 --> 00:42:27

take advantage of. The month of Dhul Hajjah

00:42:27 --> 00:42:29

is a sacred month whether you're going to

00:42:29 --> 00:42:31

Hajj or not. And in fact,

00:42:31 --> 00:42:33

the first 10 days of Dhul Hijjah

00:42:34 --> 00:42:37

are the best 10 days in the calendar

00:42:37 --> 00:42:39

year, in the Islamic calendar.

00:42:39 --> 00:42:41

The best 10 nights are the last 10

00:42:41 --> 00:42:42

nights of Ramadan,

00:42:43 --> 00:42:45

and the best 10 days are the 10

00:42:45 --> 00:42:48

days of Dhul Hajj, the first ten leading

00:42:48 --> 00:42:51

up to Hajj. So this is a particular

00:42:51 --> 00:42:53

special time. It's sacred time where the things

00:42:53 --> 00:42:56

that you do are worth extra, that they

00:42:56 --> 00:42:59

will have more effect on the purification of

00:42:59 --> 00:43:01

your heart and more effect on the purification

00:43:01 --> 00:43:03

of your soul and will get you to

00:43:03 --> 00:43:05

a higher rank in Jannah. So not even

00:43:05 --> 00:43:06

just the prayer and the fasting

00:43:06 --> 00:43:09

and the, the Quran and the charity, the

00:43:09 --> 00:43:10

things that you already know and love and

00:43:10 --> 00:43:11

are doing, hopefully,

00:43:12 --> 00:43:14

but also what we've been talking about with

00:43:14 --> 00:43:16

politics and Nahyan al Munkar. Right, trying to

00:43:16 --> 00:43:19

change evil with your hand if possible, if

00:43:19 --> 00:43:20

not with your,

00:43:20 --> 00:43:22

with your speech, if not with your heart.

00:43:23 --> 00:43:23

Right?

00:43:24 --> 00:43:26

Being an advocate for justice within society, this

00:43:26 --> 00:43:28

is all worship. This is all worship. And

00:43:28 --> 00:43:29

so if you're doing it in the 1st

00:43:29 --> 00:43:32

10 days, that this is something that is

00:43:32 --> 00:43:34

even, even more meritorious.

00:43:39 --> 00:43:41

And so we've got lots of lots of

00:43:41 --> 00:43:42

things to help you,

00:43:43 --> 00:43:43

for

00:43:44 --> 00:43:47

your journey through the Hijjah in Yaqeenah. And

00:43:47 --> 00:43:49

obviously, if you want the opportunity,

00:43:49 --> 00:43:50

you want the opportunity to,

00:43:52 --> 00:43:54

worship through your wealth, then there are opportunities

00:43:54 --> 00:43:56

to donate. And there's many, many worthy causes

00:43:56 --> 00:43:58

to donate. And, of course, Yaqeen Institute is

00:43:58 --> 00:43:59

just one of them.

00:43:59 --> 00:44:00

But

00:44:00 --> 00:44:02

for whoever is able and willing for that

00:44:02 --> 00:44:04

particular type of worship,

00:44:05 --> 00:44:08

Ronnie Jay says some Muslims don't boycott and

00:44:08 --> 00:44:11

say it's not sinful to not boycott as

00:44:11 --> 00:44:13

it is not mentioned in hadith. Is it

00:44:13 --> 00:44:14

correct?

00:44:15 --> 00:44:17

I would say to that, the statement of

00:44:17 --> 00:44:18

Imam Ahmed, Rahim O'Hollaha,

00:44:19 --> 00:44:20

to his,

00:44:22 --> 00:44:23

somebody asked him. You know that Imam Ahmed

00:44:23 --> 00:44:25

was imprisoned and was tortured in in in

00:44:25 --> 00:44:26

jail

00:44:26 --> 00:44:27

for,

00:44:28 --> 00:44:29

during the, which is sort of, like, the

00:44:29 --> 00:44:31

only sort of inquisition that happened in Islamic

00:44:31 --> 00:44:33

history at the hands of the Muertazilah.

00:44:34 --> 00:44:35

And he was asked

00:44:36 --> 00:44:38

if his prison guard was complicit.

00:44:39 --> 00:44:41

Okay? Now think about this. So there's people

00:44:41 --> 00:44:43

who are imprisoning him,

00:44:44 --> 00:44:46

and there's the guy who's standing there, who's

00:44:46 --> 00:44:48

got the keys, who, you know, is manning

00:44:48 --> 00:44:50

the door. He's not the person who's beating

00:44:50 --> 00:44:52

Imam Ahmed. He's not the person who commanded

00:44:52 --> 00:44:53

that he'd be imprisoned, etcetera.

00:44:54 --> 00:44:56

And someone asked Imam Ahmed,

00:44:56 --> 00:44:58

is the prison guard complicit?

00:44:59 --> 00:45:01

And Imam Ahmed, Rahimahullah responded,

00:45:01 --> 00:45:04

he's not complicit. He's actively oppressing me.

00:45:05 --> 00:45:07

The person who's complicit is the chef who

00:45:07 --> 00:45:09

cooks their meals or the cook who's involved

00:45:09 --> 00:45:10

in feeding them.

00:45:11 --> 00:45:14

To show you that if you're directly involved,

00:45:14 --> 00:45:16

you're directly involved

00:45:16 --> 00:45:17

with

00:45:17 --> 00:45:19

purchasing from the Zionists or supporting the Zionists,

00:45:20 --> 00:45:22

then you're not even complicit.

00:45:22 --> 00:45:25

You're directly involved. Right? So if this was

00:45:25 --> 00:45:28

Imam Ahmed's attitude to show you how far

00:45:28 --> 00:45:30

away complicity is, right, then you should take

00:45:30 --> 00:45:32

that same attitude to our brothers and sisters

00:45:32 --> 00:45:34

in Palestine. If you give up something for

00:45:34 --> 00:45:35

Allah, Allah

00:45:35 --> 00:45:37

will replace it for you with something that

00:45:37 --> 00:45:38

is much, much

00:45:40 --> 00:45:41

better.

00:45:43 --> 00:45:45

So here we go. Now when it comes

00:45:45 --> 00:45:46

to the particular things in in this book,

00:45:46 --> 00:45:48

we're just gonna we've got some sunan to

00:45:48 --> 00:45:50

go over some aspects of the prophet sallallahu

00:45:50 --> 00:45:52

alaihi wa sallam's life that are not

00:45:53 --> 00:45:55

limited to one specific time of day, but

00:45:55 --> 00:45:57

that happened daily. Right? So we talked last,

00:45:58 --> 00:46:01

session about sleep. Now we're going to talk

00:46:01 --> 00:46:03

about some of the,

00:46:03 --> 00:46:05

the sunan or the habits of the prophet

00:46:05 --> 00:46:07

sallallahu alaihi wasallam of food because food is

00:46:07 --> 00:46:09

unless you're fasting but even if you're fasting

00:46:09 --> 00:46:11

in the morning and night, if you're not

00:46:11 --> 00:46:14

in extremely dire circumstances, you are eating every

00:46:14 --> 00:46:15

day at least

00:46:15 --> 00:46:16

something.

00:46:16 --> 00:46:17

And so when it comes to the sunnah,

00:46:17 --> 00:46:20

number 1, we have very, very simple Bismillah

00:46:20 --> 00:46:22

when you start in the name of Allah

00:46:22 --> 00:46:23

and Alhamdulillah

00:46:24 --> 00:46:26

when you're done. Bismillah sets your intention

00:46:27 --> 00:46:29

so that the food that you eat is

00:46:29 --> 00:46:29

now worship.

00:46:30 --> 00:46:32

Okay. You're sanctifying it by making even your

00:46:32 --> 00:46:35

eating an act of worship because a wise

00:46:35 --> 00:46:38

person is somebody who is going to convert

00:46:38 --> 00:46:40

their everyday habits into worship for Allah Subhanahu

00:46:40 --> 00:46:42

Wa Ta'ala. And then, alhamdulillah, after for being

00:46:42 --> 00:46:45

grateful, being grateful after the blessing has been

00:46:45 --> 00:46:45

completed,

00:46:46 --> 00:46:48

for the one who provided you your food.

00:46:48 --> 00:46:49

Number 2, we have

00:46:49 --> 00:46:50

eating together.

00:46:51 --> 00:46:53

Okay? That means eating not by yourself.

00:46:54 --> 00:46:55

And for those in the modern west, this

00:46:55 --> 00:46:57

is something we struggle with. It's better to

00:46:57 --> 00:46:59

eat together with other people than it is

00:46:59 --> 00:47:01

to eat by yourself. Ibn Kathir mentions this

00:47:01 --> 00:47:03

in this tafsir, that there were a group

00:47:03 --> 00:47:04

of people that came to the prophet

00:47:05 --> 00:47:06

companions, and they complained

00:47:07 --> 00:47:09

that they did not find blessing in their

00:47:09 --> 00:47:11

food, meaning that they would eat and eat

00:47:11 --> 00:47:13

and eat and they wouldn't get full.

00:47:13 --> 00:47:15

And so the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam asked

00:47:15 --> 00:47:16

them a question. He said, Do you eat

00:47:16 --> 00:47:18

together or do you eat separately?

00:47:18 --> 00:47:21

And they said, Well, we eat separately. And

00:47:21 --> 00:47:22

he said eat together. And this was a

00:47:22 --> 00:47:25

recommendation, not a command. He said eat together

00:47:25 --> 00:47:27

because there's blessing in it. And so if

00:47:27 --> 00:47:29

you eat together, you will find more blessing

00:47:29 --> 00:47:31

in it. Eat with the right hand.

00:47:31 --> 00:47:34

Okay. And eat from what is in front

00:47:34 --> 00:47:37

of you. That's especially becomes relevant if you're

00:47:37 --> 00:47:39

sharing a communal plate or a communal dish

00:47:39 --> 00:47:41

with other people. It teaches you etiquette. Right?

00:47:41 --> 00:47:43

Maybe we've forgotten these things if we all

00:47:43 --> 00:47:45

have our little Chipotle bowls or something like

00:47:45 --> 00:47:47

that. But if you share a plate with

00:47:47 --> 00:47:49

somebody else, it teaches you etiquette. It teaches

00:47:49 --> 00:47:51

you manners. You can't go over to their

00:47:51 --> 00:47:53

side and grab the thing that looks really,

00:47:53 --> 00:47:55

you know, nice to you. You have to

00:47:55 --> 00:47:56

eat just from what's in front of you

00:47:56 --> 00:47:58

and be content with it. Number 3.

00:47:59 --> 00:48:02

Number 3, we have not wasting food even

00:48:02 --> 00:48:03

if it has fallen onto the ground. The

00:48:03 --> 00:48:06

prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam, he found food onto

00:48:06 --> 00:48:08

the ground. He would command us to brush

00:48:08 --> 00:48:10

it off, clean it off, and eat it

00:48:10 --> 00:48:11

because it is a blessing from Allah Subhanahu

00:48:11 --> 00:48:13

Wa Ta'ala. We don't take it lightly.

00:48:14 --> 00:48:15

Okay? That we don't waste food. This is

00:48:15 --> 00:48:18

a huge, enormous problem, especially in places where

00:48:18 --> 00:48:20

there is too much abundance. We take it

00:48:20 --> 00:48:23

for granted. That is not grateful, and then

00:48:23 --> 00:48:25

we waste. And then finally, you lick your

00:48:25 --> 00:48:27

fingers and you scrape the dish. That means,

00:48:27 --> 00:48:29

again, part of not wasting means that you're

00:48:29 --> 00:48:31

going to even get every last bit even

00:48:31 --> 00:48:33

if it's on your fingers, even if it's

00:48:33 --> 00:48:35

at the bottom of the pot. Number 4,

00:48:36 --> 00:48:37

praise the food that you

00:48:37 --> 00:48:39

like and give dua for the host if

00:48:39 --> 00:48:41

you're eating at somebody else's place. Very, very

00:48:41 --> 00:48:42

important manners.

00:48:43 --> 00:48:43

Right?

00:48:44 --> 00:48:46

That if you have food that you like,

00:48:46 --> 00:48:49

then this is something that you should you

00:48:49 --> 00:48:51

should praise people. Now the prophet if he

00:48:51 --> 00:48:53

had food that he didn't like, he would

00:48:53 --> 00:48:55

simply not say anything, which is also part

00:48:55 --> 00:48:56

of our manners. And then he would make

00:48:56 --> 00:48:58

du'at for his host because that's part of

00:48:58 --> 00:48:59

gratitude. Whoever,

00:49:01 --> 00:49:03

whoever does not thank the people as the

00:49:03 --> 00:49:04

prophet said,

00:49:04 --> 00:49:05

does not thank Allah.

00:49:05 --> 00:49:08

And finally, number 5, cover your vessels up

00:49:08 --> 00:49:10

before bed. That means you have pots, you

00:49:10 --> 00:49:11

have pans, you have maybe pitchers of water,

00:49:11 --> 00:49:13

things like that. Don't just leave them out.

00:49:13 --> 00:49:15

This is actually from the sunnah of the

00:49:15 --> 00:49:17

prophet to cover them up. Right? Even if

00:49:17 --> 00:49:19

you've got, like, a stopper or something like

00:49:19 --> 00:49:21

that, even better to make sure that they're

00:49:21 --> 00:49:23

not open. And I'm sure the doctors and

00:49:23 --> 00:49:25

the medical folks in the comments could explain

00:49:25 --> 00:49:26

why there's some health benefits to that as

00:49:26 --> 00:49:28

well. But not only are there health benefits

00:49:28 --> 00:49:30

that this is the sunnah of the messenger

00:49:30 --> 00:49:31

sallallahu alaihi

00:49:32 --> 00:49:34

wasallam. Moving on to our final segment for

00:49:34 --> 00:49:37

tonight before we depart, and that is our

00:49:37 --> 00:49:39

personal development segment. We've been going over this

00:49:39 --> 00:49:39

book,

00:49:40 --> 00:49:42

the 21 laws of leadership,

00:49:43 --> 00:49:45

and we've been hastening along. And so now

00:49:45 --> 00:49:48

we've gotten basically down to 2 more sessions

00:49:48 --> 00:49:49

until we're gonna finish this book. So we

00:49:49 --> 00:49:52

split up the last 7 or so laws,

00:49:53 --> 00:49:55

over this particular session and the next particular

00:49:55 --> 00:49:57

section, and then we get to move on

00:49:57 --> 00:49:58

to another book, which is awesome. We completed

00:49:58 --> 00:49:59

a book together.

00:50:00 --> 00:50:03

So we're gonna look at laws 15, 16,

00:50:03 --> 00:50:05

17, and 18 this evening.

00:50:05 --> 00:50:08

Number 15 is what the author calls the

00:50:08 --> 00:50:10

law of victory. What's the law of victory

00:50:10 --> 00:50:12

mean? It means that a leader

00:50:13 --> 00:50:15

has to find a way for the team

00:50:15 --> 00:50:18

to win. Now we've addressed sort of false

00:50:18 --> 00:50:19

notions of leadership before

00:50:20 --> 00:50:21

earlier on in the book about how a

00:50:21 --> 00:50:23

lot of people think that the leader is

00:50:23 --> 00:50:24

somebody

00:50:25 --> 00:50:25

who

00:50:26 --> 00:50:27

a lot of people think the leader is

00:50:27 --> 00:50:28

somebody who finishes 1st.

00:50:29 --> 00:50:30

That's not true.

00:50:30 --> 00:50:32

The leader is somebody who makes sure the

00:50:32 --> 00:50:34

whole team finishes together.

00:50:35 --> 00:50:36

And so that's a different set of skills.

00:50:36 --> 00:50:39

Right? You've gotta bring other people along with

00:50:39 --> 00:50:41

you. It's, you know, it's not easy. It

00:50:41 --> 00:50:42

takes a lot of patience.

00:50:42 --> 00:50:44

And so when you're the leader, you

00:50:45 --> 00:50:45

have

00:50:46 --> 00:50:47

to absolutely

00:50:47 --> 00:50:48

make sure

00:50:48 --> 00:50:50

that you take responsibility

00:50:51 --> 00:50:52

the success of your team and this is

00:50:52 --> 00:50:53

something the prophet

00:50:54 --> 00:50:57

did time and time and time again. Think

00:50:57 --> 00:50:58

about better. Think about the battle of better

00:50:58 --> 00:50:59

when the prophet

00:51:00 --> 00:51:02

made all of his battle plans and then

00:51:02 --> 00:51:04

raised his hands to make du'a. He made

00:51:04 --> 00:51:05

du'a so intensely

00:51:06 --> 00:51:07

that his

00:51:07 --> 00:51:09

rida, his sort of upper garment fell off

00:51:09 --> 00:51:11

of his shoulders and Abu Bakr had to

00:51:11 --> 00:51:13

come and said, listen, babe, that's enough. Like,

00:51:13 --> 00:51:15

we've we've we've done everything that we could.

00:51:15 --> 00:51:17

Like, Allah won't forsake you. Like, we're covered.

00:51:17 --> 00:51:20

Like, that was how personally the prophet sallallahu

00:51:20 --> 00:51:22

alaihi wa sallam took his responsibility

00:51:22 --> 00:51:24

for the success of the team. And he

00:51:24 --> 00:51:27

also communicated that communicated that unity of vision

00:51:27 --> 00:51:30

that we've talked about as well, trying to

00:51:30 --> 00:51:33

raise other people to their potential. That's part

00:51:33 --> 00:51:35

of being a good leader and it's part

00:51:35 --> 00:51:36

of taking responsibility

00:51:37 --> 00:51:39

for the success of your team is putting

00:51:39 --> 00:51:41

everybody in a

00:51:41 --> 00:51:43

position where they can succeed.

00:51:43 --> 00:51:45

If you're disposed to, you know, you're really

00:51:45 --> 00:51:47

smart with money, we're gonna put you on

00:51:47 --> 00:51:48

the business side of things. If you're really

00:51:48 --> 00:51:50

smart with education, with people, we're gonna put

00:51:50 --> 00:51:51

you on that side of things. And the

00:51:51 --> 00:51:54

prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam, if you look at

00:51:54 --> 00:51:56

how he treated the different companions

00:51:56 --> 00:51:59

and how he utilized the special skills and

00:51:59 --> 00:52:00

relationships

00:52:01 --> 00:52:03

of the different companions. There was no one

00:52:03 --> 00:52:04

better at this than the prophet sallallahu alaihi

00:52:04 --> 00:52:06

wa sallam. He was able to divide the

00:52:06 --> 00:52:09

companions in ways where they were all working

00:52:09 --> 00:52:11

to their strengths and that they were all

00:52:11 --> 00:52:13

able to do really important work.

00:52:13 --> 00:52:14

Law number 16

00:52:15 --> 00:52:17

is what the author calls the law of

00:52:17 --> 00:52:19

the big mo. And by mo, he does

00:52:19 --> 00:52:21

not mean Mohammed. He means momentum.

00:52:21 --> 00:52:24

The law of momentum. That momentum is a

00:52:24 --> 00:52:27

key factor to success. Anybody who's ever watched

00:52:27 --> 00:52:28

sports, whether it's cricket

00:52:29 --> 00:52:29

or football,

00:52:30 --> 00:52:30

soccer,

00:52:31 --> 00:52:34

basketball, baseball, you understand that momentum is so

00:52:34 --> 00:52:36

important. You could be on the verge of

00:52:36 --> 00:52:36

victory.

00:52:37 --> 00:52:39

And then if all of a sudden the

00:52:39 --> 00:52:42

momentum flips, it seems like the other team

00:52:42 --> 00:52:44

can't lose, like they can't miss a bucket

00:52:44 --> 00:52:46

or they can't miss a shot. It seems

00:52:46 --> 00:52:47

like

00:52:47 --> 00:52:50

it it momentum is what makes victory or

00:52:50 --> 00:52:51

failure seem inevitable.

00:52:52 --> 00:52:54

And so it is extremely important that a

00:52:54 --> 00:52:55

leader attempts to

00:52:56 --> 00:52:57

generate momentum.

00:52:58 --> 00:52:58

Okay?

00:52:58 --> 00:53:02

Creating momentum and harnessing momentum. Now that sounds

00:53:02 --> 00:53:03

like a really, really tough thing to do.

00:53:03 --> 00:53:06

Like, how are you gonna go create momentum?

00:53:06 --> 00:53:07

One of the ways to do it is

00:53:07 --> 00:53:09

to remove things that are demotivating.

00:53:10 --> 00:53:11

Remove demotivating

00:53:12 --> 00:53:15

elements. Elements or things that stop your momentum.

00:53:15 --> 00:53:18

That includes naysayers. That includes pessimism. The prophet

00:53:18 --> 00:53:20

sallallahu alaihi wa sallam did not like pessimism.

00:53:20 --> 00:53:22

Right? We have instructions in the Quran to

00:53:22 --> 00:53:25

not repeat everything that we hear, especially in

00:53:25 --> 00:53:27

the time of warfare. We don't repeat every

00:53:27 --> 00:53:29

bit of news that comes to us because

00:53:29 --> 00:53:30

some of it's lies, some of it's truth,

00:53:30 --> 00:53:31

some of it we don't know how to

00:53:31 --> 00:53:34

interpret it. Right? This is very, very important

00:53:34 --> 00:53:36

to morale. We see it in towards the

00:53:36 --> 00:53:37

end of Surah Ad Hamran,

00:53:37 --> 00:53:40

there was a group of people who said,

00:53:40 --> 00:53:42

oh, the enemies, your enemies have come and

00:53:42 --> 00:53:43

gathered around you.

00:53:44 --> 00:53:46

And then the people of faith that actually

00:53:46 --> 00:53:47

made them stronger in faith. But this is

00:53:47 --> 00:53:49

something that is

00:53:49 --> 00:53:51

very important that you not give air to

00:53:51 --> 00:53:53

pessimism or you not give air to the

00:53:53 --> 00:53:55

naysayers. And then another way of doing that

00:53:55 --> 00:53:58

is rewarding accomplishment, right? Like saying

00:53:58 --> 00:54:00

such and such a person, if they do

00:54:00 --> 00:54:01

this thing, then you're going to get this

00:54:01 --> 00:54:04

reward. It's something that is able to build

00:54:04 --> 00:54:06

momentum and the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam did

00:54:06 --> 00:54:07

this all the time.

00:54:07 --> 00:54:08

Law number 17,

00:54:09 --> 00:54:11

we have the law of properties and, yes,

00:54:11 --> 00:54:13

we will be getting to everybody's questions and

00:54:13 --> 00:54:13

comments,

00:54:14 --> 00:54:16

after we run through these last two laws

00:54:16 --> 00:54:17

before we close out tonight, the law of

00:54:17 --> 00:54:18

priorities.

00:54:19 --> 00:54:21

And he has a subtitle here, which is

00:54:21 --> 00:54:23

very, very elucidating that

00:54:23 --> 00:54:23

activity

00:54:24 --> 00:54:27

is not the same as accomplishment. A lot

00:54:27 --> 00:54:30

of times we think that we're accomplishing things

00:54:30 --> 00:54:32

just because we're busy doing things,

00:54:33 --> 00:54:34

but we don't stop to think

00:54:35 --> 00:54:38

are the things that I'm doing actually moving

00:54:38 --> 00:54:40

me towards success or is it just busy

00:54:40 --> 00:54:41

work

00:54:41 --> 00:54:42

or

00:54:42 --> 00:54:44

can I be doing something better? Can I

00:54:44 --> 00:54:47

be doing things in a better way? And

00:54:47 --> 00:54:49

so he gave us 3 quick sort of

00:54:49 --> 00:54:52

tests to figure out, are we using our

00:54:52 --> 00:54:52

energy

00:54:53 --> 00:54:54

efficiently?

00:54:54 --> 00:54:56

He says, what work is required?

00:54:57 --> 00:55:00

What gives you the greatest return, and what

00:55:00 --> 00:55:01

gives you the greatest reward?

00:55:02 --> 00:55:05

Required means what can I do or what

00:55:05 --> 00:55:06

do I have to do

00:55:07 --> 00:55:08

that

00:55:09 --> 00:55:12

nobody else can do or nobody else should

00:55:12 --> 00:55:12

do?

00:55:13 --> 00:55:14

This is something that I've had to learn

00:55:14 --> 00:55:16

myself. There are certain things yes. I can

00:55:16 --> 00:55:19

go teach this subject or teach that subject,

00:55:19 --> 00:55:19

alhamdulillah.

00:55:20 --> 00:55:21

But there's a couple subjects

00:55:22 --> 00:55:22

that

00:55:23 --> 00:55:26

I specialize in that very, very few people

00:55:26 --> 00:55:28

can actually teach. And so I feel like

00:55:28 --> 00:55:30

that is something required of me by the

00:55:30 --> 00:55:32

ummah that I have to put my focus

00:55:32 --> 00:55:32

and attention

00:55:33 --> 00:55:35

in those particular areas,

00:55:35 --> 00:55:37

because that is something that very, very few

00:55:37 --> 00:55:39

other people could do or people shouldn't do

00:55:39 --> 00:55:39

for me.

00:55:40 --> 00:55:41

What gives you the greatest return?

00:55:42 --> 00:55:44

By this, he means that you should play

00:55:44 --> 00:55:45

to your strengths,

00:55:45 --> 00:55:46

that if you're really, really good at a

00:55:46 --> 00:55:49

particular thing, then that should be your priority

00:55:49 --> 00:55:51

to be the best at that particular thing.

00:55:51 --> 00:55:53

For other people, you know, or other activities

00:55:53 --> 00:55:54

that you're not so good at, you can

00:55:54 --> 00:55:56

train other people to do them for you

00:55:56 --> 00:55:57

or they can round you out.

00:55:58 --> 00:56:00

And the final one is what gives you

00:56:00 --> 00:56:02

the greatest reward? What gives you the greatest

00:56:02 --> 00:56:02

satisfaction?

00:56:03 --> 00:56:05

Right? Those are things that should shape your

00:56:05 --> 00:56:07

priority so that you know that your effort

00:56:07 --> 00:56:09

is actually moving the needle and is not

00:56:09 --> 00:56:11

just busy work. Final law, law number 18,

00:56:11 --> 00:56:13

the law of sacrifice, and this is extremely

00:56:13 --> 00:56:14

important

00:56:14 --> 00:56:16

and demonstrated by the prophet sallallahu alaihi wa

00:56:16 --> 00:56:18

sallam time and time and time again.

00:56:19 --> 00:56:20

Leaders must sacrifice.

00:56:21 --> 00:56:23

In order to go up,

00:56:24 --> 00:56:25

you have to give up,

00:56:26 --> 00:56:28

and the leader has to give up more

00:56:28 --> 00:56:31

than others. The prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam

00:56:31 --> 00:56:33

was the most generous person. He would not

00:56:33 --> 00:56:35

keep money in his house

00:56:36 --> 00:56:37

beyond a certain

00:56:37 --> 00:56:39

amount of time. He would distribute it all.

00:56:40 --> 00:56:43

If someone came to him, sallallahu alaihi wasallam,

00:56:43 --> 00:56:44

and asked him anything,

00:56:45 --> 00:56:48

he would do it, alayhi salatu salam,

00:56:48 --> 00:56:51

unless he was literally incapable of doing it.

00:56:51 --> 00:56:53

How many times does somebody ask you for

00:56:53 --> 00:56:54

something and you say that you can't, but

00:56:54 --> 00:56:56

really you just don't want to? The prophet

00:56:56 --> 00:56:59

sallallahu alaihi wa sallam never said no

00:57:00 --> 00:57:00

to somebody

00:57:01 --> 00:57:03

unless he actually couldn't do it.

00:57:03 --> 00:57:06

That's sacrifice. The prophet, sallallahu alaihi wasallam, when

00:57:06 --> 00:57:07

it comes to leadership,

00:57:08 --> 00:57:10

giving up your rights, giving up your freedoms,

00:57:10 --> 00:57:12

and giving up your comforts. That's something we

00:57:12 --> 00:57:13

don't like to talk about, but it's true.

00:57:13 --> 00:57:14

The prophet

00:57:15 --> 00:57:18

was more famous than the most famous influencer

00:57:18 --> 00:57:19

we have today. There were people knocking on

00:57:19 --> 00:57:21

his door, trying to get his attention

00:57:22 --> 00:57:24

day in and day out, alayhis salaam.

00:57:24 --> 00:57:26

And he gave people access. People had the

00:57:26 --> 00:57:28

most access to him. Right?

00:57:29 --> 00:57:31

When it came to his lifestyle,

00:57:31 --> 00:57:33

he ate very little. There were times where

00:57:33 --> 00:57:34

he woke up

00:57:35 --> 00:57:37

and he asked Aisha, Aisha, is there anything

00:57:37 --> 00:57:38

that we have? We have any food in

00:57:38 --> 00:57:39

the house?

00:57:39 --> 00:57:41

And Aisha said, no.

00:57:41 --> 00:57:43

And so the prophet would say, okay. I'm

00:57:43 --> 00:57:44

gonna fast then.

00:57:45 --> 00:57:47

There were times that the prophet would sleep

00:57:47 --> 00:57:50

on a reed mat and would leave imprints

00:57:50 --> 00:57:51

in his side.

00:57:51 --> 00:57:53

He did not live a life of luxury.

00:57:53 --> 00:57:56

He had a few clothes, few possessions, few

00:57:56 --> 00:57:57

things to eat.

00:57:58 --> 00:57:59

This was the sacrifice of the prophet

00:58:00 --> 00:58:02

who was the best leader.

00:58:02 --> 00:58:04

So if you want to be a leader

00:58:04 --> 00:58:06

sometimes, and this is what this is militating

00:58:06 --> 00:58:07

against, is sometimes

00:58:07 --> 00:58:10

people want to be the leader sometimes.

00:58:11 --> 00:58:14

People want to be the leader sometimes because

00:58:14 --> 00:58:15

they want the perks.

00:58:15 --> 00:58:17

They want the perks to come along with

00:58:17 --> 00:58:19

being the leader. They want to

00:58:20 --> 00:58:22

have the 1st class flight or the business

00:58:22 --> 00:58:24

class flight or they want to have the,

00:58:24 --> 00:58:26

I don't know. Whatever perks they think that

00:58:26 --> 00:58:28

they're going to get without realizing that the

00:58:28 --> 00:58:31

leader has to sacrifice the most. Whether it's

00:58:31 --> 00:58:33

your reputation, whether it's people talking about you,

00:58:33 --> 00:58:36

whether it is the time that you spend,

00:58:36 --> 00:58:38

whether it is things that you can't do,

00:58:39 --> 00:58:40

because you're

00:58:40 --> 00:58:41

just

00:58:41 --> 00:58:43

you're putting in the work. That's the life

00:58:43 --> 00:58:45

of leadership, and that is,

00:58:45 --> 00:58:47

that's all part of it. So we're gonna

00:58:47 --> 00:58:49

spin it around with the questions now. We'll

00:58:49 --> 00:58:51

see. I'll go to work backwards. Soumaya Karim,

00:58:51 --> 00:58:52

you said law of big mo. That was

00:58:52 --> 00:58:55

momentum. And the leader is responsible for generating,

00:58:56 --> 00:58:56

maintaining,

00:58:57 --> 00:58:58

shepherding,

00:58:58 --> 00:59:01

guiding momentum. Very, very important too whether if

00:59:01 --> 00:59:03

someone is gonna win or if they're gonna

00:59:03 --> 00:59:03

lose.

00:59:05 --> 00:59:07

Our Muslim children says if my job requires

00:59:07 --> 00:59:09

me to be complicit with comments and stances

00:59:09 --> 00:59:11

against Palestine, but many are saying that staying

00:59:11 --> 00:59:13

in my job might be beneficial for the

00:59:13 --> 00:59:15

Ummah for there to be a Muslim inside

00:59:15 --> 00:59:16

do I stay?

00:59:16 --> 00:59:17

Well, I mean,

00:59:18 --> 00:59:20

might be or will it be? I think

00:59:20 --> 00:59:22

that's the question you have to answer yourself.

00:59:22 --> 00:59:23

If they are requiring

00:59:24 --> 00:59:26

you to compromise on your principles,

00:59:26 --> 00:59:28

how much effect do you really have in

00:59:28 --> 00:59:30

the first place? Maybe you're not really affecting

00:59:30 --> 00:59:32

things anyway. Everybody has to make this calculus,

00:59:32 --> 00:59:34

whether your participation

00:59:35 --> 00:59:37

is being used so that you're legitimizing

00:59:38 --> 00:59:39

what's going on,

00:59:39 --> 00:59:41

or whether you're actually able to make a

00:59:41 --> 00:59:43

change. If you're actually able to make a

00:59:43 --> 00:59:45

change, then you have an argument for for

00:59:45 --> 00:59:46

staying around.

00:59:46 --> 00:59:49

If, like sister Hassan, who we had on

00:59:49 --> 00:59:49

earlier,

00:59:50 --> 00:59:51

you're not able to make a change and

00:59:51 --> 00:59:54

in fact, it's just a profoundly sort of

00:59:54 --> 00:59:55

problematic environment,

00:59:55 --> 00:59:57

then sometimes leaving is a,

00:59:58 --> 00:59:59

is a greater statement.

01:00:01 --> 01:00:02

Nusayba,

01:00:03 --> 01:00:03

asks

01:00:03 --> 01:00:06

if people knew what leadership was truly about,

01:00:06 --> 01:00:08

they would have never wanted it. That's a

01:00:08 --> 01:00:09

great point to save.

01:00:09 --> 01:00:11

I think you're a 100% right with that.

01:00:13 --> 01:00:14

Minami Islam Khan,

01:00:15 --> 01:00:16

as of June 2024,

01:00:16 --> 01:00:19

what is an aria of your favorite books?

01:00:19 --> 01:00:21

Oh, boy. Put me on the spot. Well,

01:00:21 --> 01:00:23

it's no secret. It's no secret to people

01:00:23 --> 01:00:24

who know me that one of my favorite

01:00:24 --> 01:00:27

books is Restating Orientalism by Wadh Hallak.

01:00:29 --> 01:00:31

What are some of my other favorite books?

01:00:32 --> 01:00:33

What am I reading right now? I just

01:00:33 --> 01:00:35

I just read it. I just finished reading

01:00:35 --> 01:00:37

Atomic Habits. That was a very nice book.

01:00:37 --> 01:00:39

I I really don't like self help books,

01:00:39 --> 01:00:40

but as far as, like, self help books

01:00:40 --> 01:00:42

go, I think that's, like, the ideal self

01:00:42 --> 01:00:44

help book. I think there's probably,

01:00:44 --> 01:00:47

you know, what everybody would hope a self

01:00:47 --> 01:00:48

help book would kinda be like. I benefited

01:00:48 --> 01:00:50

a lot from it and finally got around

01:00:50 --> 01:00:51

to reading it.

01:00:53 --> 01:00:53

Boy,

01:00:56 --> 01:00:58

there's a lot that I'm reading right now,

01:00:58 --> 01:01:00

but I'm not gonna divulge right right now.

01:01:00 --> 01:01:02

Some of the others, you can see I

01:01:02 --> 01:01:03

have a a video series that I did

01:01:03 --> 01:01:06

with Paul Williams on, blogging theology where I

01:01:06 --> 01:01:07

go through some of my favorite books.

01:01:08 --> 01:01:10

So I'll defer you to there, though it's

01:01:10 --> 01:01:12

always a shifting list.

01:01:13 --> 01:01:15

We have let's see. Nancy Yahia from Egypt.

01:01:15 --> 01:01:17

I remember I have a request, please. Can

01:01:17 --> 01:01:19

you recommend some good books on philosophy and

01:01:19 --> 01:01:21

general and political philosophy? Maybe a list of

01:01:21 --> 01:01:23

recommendation of books. Oh, boy. Again, putting me

01:01:23 --> 01:01:24

on the spot.

01:01:25 --> 01:01:26

One book that I think is useful

01:01:27 --> 01:01:28

for the philosophy

01:01:29 --> 01:01:29

of,

01:01:30 --> 01:01:31

or at least ethics, which is, you know,

01:01:31 --> 01:01:33

considered a branch of western philosophy.

01:01:34 --> 01:01:36

I can't remember the name of it. It's

01:01:36 --> 01:01:38

by Alastair MacIntyre, who's a Scottish philosopher. It

01:01:38 --> 01:01:39

has something to do with

01:01:40 --> 01:01:41

3 paradigms of,

01:01:42 --> 01:01:44

of morality or something or other. That's a

01:01:44 --> 01:01:46

very, very nice book. Or no. I'm sorry.

01:01:46 --> 01:01:48

I'm getting 2 books mixed up. 1, he

01:01:48 --> 01:01:49

has a short history of ethics. That's a

01:01:49 --> 01:01:51

really nice book. It gives you a nice

01:01:51 --> 01:01:53

bird's eye view

01:01:53 --> 01:01:54

of one branch

01:01:55 --> 01:01:58

of western philosophy from beginning to end, quote,

01:01:58 --> 01:01:58

unquote.

01:01:59 --> 01:02:01

And he has another book, 3 I mean,

01:02:01 --> 01:02:03

he has several books, but another one that

01:02:03 --> 01:02:04

I found beneficial was his,

01:02:06 --> 01:02:07

the the title's escaping me,

01:02:08 --> 01:02:09

right now. But it has to do with

01:02:09 --> 01:02:10

sort of 3 different paradigms

01:02:10 --> 01:02:13

of, of ethics, and he proposes

01:02:13 --> 01:02:15

one is sort of

01:02:16 --> 01:02:17

tradition, and that's what he's sort of championing,

01:02:17 --> 01:02:19

and the other is sort of the genealogy.

01:02:20 --> 01:02:21

That's the continental philosophers,

01:02:21 --> 01:02:24

and the other is represented by the encyclopedia

01:02:24 --> 01:02:25

sort of the enlightenment.

01:02:25 --> 01:02:26

But that's

01:02:26 --> 01:02:28

that's over to the side.

01:02:29 --> 01:02:31

When it comes to political philosophy,

01:02:32 --> 01:02:34

stay tuned. I'm gonna be having things more

01:02:34 --> 01:02:35

specific,

01:02:35 --> 01:02:36

to say on that.

01:02:38 --> 01:02:40

Yeah. I saw your question, Mustafa, but I

01:02:40 --> 01:02:41

don't really like that question, so I'm not

01:02:41 --> 01:02:42

gonna answer it.

01:02:45 --> 01:02:46

Let's see.

01:02:48 --> 01:02:50

What else do we have?

01:02:51 --> 01:02:52

I don't see a whole bunch of other

01:02:52 --> 01:02:54

questions going back further.

01:03:09 --> 01:03:10

Yeah. I don't see any questions going back

01:03:10 --> 01:03:12

further, so let me see if we got

01:03:12 --> 01:03:13

anything back up at the top.

01:03:29 --> 01:03:31

K. We got a book recommendation from Nasaba.

01:03:31 --> 01:03:34

We'll check it out. You're professor Swarab. How

01:03:34 --> 01:03:35

to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale

01:03:35 --> 01:03:36

Carnegie.

01:03:37 --> 01:03:39

Niraj, what country do you want to visit

01:03:39 --> 01:03:40

next? Oh, man.

01:03:40 --> 01:03:42

Oh, man. Come on, Niraj.

01:03:44 --> 01:03:45

Oh, there's so many.

01:03:47 --> 01:03:48

That's not a fair question. You're making me

01:03:48 --> 01:03:49

pick just 1, man.

01:03:50 --> 01:03:52

I would like to go to

01:03:53 --> 01:03:55

I'd like to go back to Malaysia. I

01:03:55 --> 01:03:56

had a great time in Malaysia. I'd like

01:03:56 --> 01:03:58

to always go to Turkiye. I love going

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to Turkiye.

01:03:59 --> 01:04:00

I would like to go

01:04:01 --> 01:04:02

to Pakistan. I've never been to Pakistan.

01:04:05 --> 01:04:06

A lot of places. Yeah. I

01:04:07 --> 01:04:08

I I enjoy traveling.

01:04:10 --> 01:04:11

Anything

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else? We have a request for a Hajj

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story, I think.

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Tell us your Hajj story, some highlights. Oh,

01:04:23 --> 01:04:24

boy. Well,

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when I was a student in Medina, I

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was able to

01:04:30 --> 01:04:32

I was blessed to go on hedge 3

01:04:32 --> 01:04:33

times.

01:04:35 --> 01:04:37

And I'll just I'll say 2 things. I'll

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say one general thing,

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okay, that that everybody can benefit from, and

01:04:42 --> 01:04:43

then one thing about,

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somebody who's, a sheikh that I that I

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admire.

01:04:49 --> 01:04:52

One of the things from Hajj was that

01:04:52 --> 01:04:54

in working Hajj and facilitating,

01:04:55 --> 01:04:58

facilitating people's pilgrimage, I noticed one thing is

01:04:58 --> 01:04:59

that there's usually 2 types

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of people. There's there were people who, when

01:05:02 --> 01:05:03

they arrived,

01:05:04 --> 01:05:05

that

01:05:05 --> 01:05:06

if their expectations

01:05:07 --> 01:05:09

weren't meant weren't met right away, they would

01:05:09 --> 01:05:11

be thrown into a state of agitation.

01:05:12 --> 01:05:13

Right? Let's say that the hotel room wasn't

01:05:13 --> 01:05:15

ready. Let's say that they lost a bag

01:05:15 --> 01:05:17

on the on the the airplane or something

01:05:17 --> 01:05:19

like that. Let's say that things weren't quite

01:05:19 --> 01:05:21

exactly they almost have the consumer mindset to

01:05:21 --> 01:05:23

it. Like, almost like Hajj was just like

01:05:23 --> 01:05:24

a vacation.

01:05:25 --> 01:05:27

And that type of person had a really

01:05:27 --> 01:05:30

difficult time locking into the worship. Right?

01:05:31 --> 01:05:32

And

01:05:32 --> 01:05:34

a lot of the cool thing was by

01:05:34 --> 01:05:35

the end of the Hajj trip, some of

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those people would have the most amount of

01:05:37 --> 01:05:39

change. Right? They're broken down. They're crying at

01:05:39 --> 01:05:41

the cabin, all this great stuff.

01:05:42 --> 01:05:44

But there's other people who

01:05:45 --> 01:05:47

had a had a head start where

01:05:47 --> 01:05:50

they would come and they were already in

01:05:50 --> 01:05:53

the correct mindset and attitude where no matter

01:05:53 --> 01:05:55

what happened to them, and sometimes sometimes

01:05:56 --> 01:05:58

really, really inconvenient things would happen to them.

01:05:58 --> 01:06:01

Sometimes their passports would get lost. Right? Like,

01:06:01 --> 01:06:03

imagine how that would make you kind of

01:06:03 --> 01:06:05

freak out. But they understood when they got

01:06:05 --> 01:06:07

there that they were there to worship,

01:06:07 --> 01:06:09

and that was their intention.

01:06:09 --> 01:06:11

And so they

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just said which direction to the Haram. I'm

01:06:13 --> 01:06:15

gonna go pray. I wanna get my prayers

01:06:15 --> 01:06:17

in. I wanna read Quran. I'm here to

01:06:17 --> 01:06:20

worship. You guys figure out the other stuff.

01:06:21 --> 01:06:22

That's a really important thing. And that I

01:06:22 --> 01:06:25

think shows that you do have sometimes that

01:06:25 --> 01:06:27

people think that, like, they need to be

01:06:27 --> 01:06:29

in a super sacred place in order to

01:06:29 --> 01:06:30

be a religious person. A lot of people

01:06:30 --> 01:06:32

fell prey to this sort of,

01:06:33 --> 01:06:34

thought process when it comes to going to

01:06:34 --> 01:06:37

Medina to study. Oh, I'll start to be

01:06:37 --> 01:06:38

a student of knowledge or I'll start to

01:06:38 --> 01:06:39

be a good Muslim once I go to

01:06:39 --> 01:06:40

Medina.

01:06:40 --> 01:06:43

You really just have to do whatever you

01:06:43 --> 01:06:46

can wherever you are. Right? That you can

01:06:46 --> 01:06:48

have a righteous person in a righteous place.

01:06:49 --> 01:06:50

You can have an evil person in an

01:06:50 --> 01:06:53

evil place. You can have a righteous person

01:06:53 --> 01:06:54

in an evil place, and you can have

01:06:54 --> 01:06:56

an evil person in a righteous place. Right?

01:06:56 --> 01:06:58

So it really does have to do with

01:06:58 --> 01:07:00

sort of what attitude you bring to it.

01:07:00 --> 01:07:00

Being an opportunist

01:07:01 --> 01:07:03

in a spiritual sense. Right? Always looking out

01:07:03 --> 01:07:04

for

01:07:04 --> 01:07:07

how can I benefit from what is being

01:07:07 --> 01:07:08

given to me right now,

01:07:09 --> 01:07:11

to benefit my afterlife, to benefit my soul?

01:07:11 --> 01:07:14

It's kind of like a whole way of

01:07:14 --> 01:07:17

looking at the world and your life moment

01:07:17 --> 01:07:17

to moment.

01:07:20 --> 01:07:22

The second story, after I go through real

01:07:22 --> 01:07:22

quick,

01:07:24 --> 01:07:24

comments,

01:07:25 --> 01:07:26

Andy Craft,

01:07:37 --> 01:07:39

Yeah. Come to Dearborn again. Inshallah. The country

01:07:39 --> 01:07:40

of Dearborn. I

01:07:41 --> 01:07:42

need a I need a passport. Do I

01:07:42 --> 01:07:43

need a visa for Dearborn?

01:07:46 --> 01:07:48

And then the second thing, you know,

01:07:49 --> 01:07:51

one of the Hajj stories is that we

01:07:51 --> 01:07:53

heard of that our sheikh Sheikh Abdullah Shankiti,

01:07:54 --> 01:07:55

you know, who

01:07:55 --> 01:07:58

who's an elderly man, if you've seen him

01:07:58 --> 01:07:58

before,

01:07:58 --> 01:07:59

that

01:08:00 --> 01:08:02

we some of the students caught him handing

01:08:02 --> 01:08:05

out water to the pilgrims, like, on the

01:08:05 --> 01:08:06

back of a truck.

01:08:07 --> 01:08:07

And,

01:08:07 --> 01:08:10

he was just a very incredible he is,

01:08:10 --> 01:08:11

I should say, he's still living,

01:08:12 --> 01:08:14

A very humble and incredible person.

01:08:15 --> 01:08:17

Because some people would look at this as

01:08:17 --> 01:08:19

below you. Right? You're in the back of

01:08:19 --> 01:08:22

a truck. You're sweaty. There's no air conditioning.

01:08:22 --> 01:08:23

You're handing out bottles of water to pilgrims

01:08:23 --> 01:08:25

and stuff like that. This is someone who

01:08:25 --> 01:08:27

teaches from a chair in the in the

01:08:27 --> 01:08:27

prophet's masjid.

01:08:28 --> 01:08:29

Right?

01:08:29 --> 01:08:31

They can have people do they can send

01:08:31 --> 01:08:33

money anywhere. They can have people take care

01:08:33 --> 01:08:35

of this for them. But he was there

01:08:35 --> 01:08:36

in the back of the truck. People saw

01:08:36 --> 01:08:37

him,

01:08:37 --> 01:08:40

and they they they saw him getting his

01:08:40 --> 01:08:42

hands dirty, mixing with the people. And this

01:08:42 --> 01:08:43

is something that I picked up from Sheikh

01:08:43 --> 01:08:45

Abdullah, but I need to do better to

01:08:45 --> 01:08:46

be frank. I, you know, don't pretend to

01:08:46 --> 01:08:48

be a perfect person. I have millions of

01:08:48 --> 01:08:49

shortcomings that,

01:08:52 --> 01:08:53

mixing with the people. Just as we mentioned

01:08:53 --> 01:08:55

the hadith of the prophet

01:08:55 --> 01:08:58

before, Sheikh Abdullah Shinkidi would not just for

01:08:58 --> 01:09:00

Hajj and mixing with the Hujjaj, but also

01:09:00 --> 01:09:03

after Salat Al Maghrib sorry, Salat Al Aisha,

01:09:04 --> 01:09:06

after he taught tafsir and the prophet's masjid.

01:09:06 --> 01:09:07

He would just sit

01:09:08 --> 01:09:10

on the floor in the masjid. Anybody in

01:09:10 --> 01:09:11

the world could come up to him, ask

01:09:11 --> 01:09:12

him a question.

01:09:12 --> 01:09:14

You know, he was very, very accessible.

01:09:15 --> 01:09:17

Not openly, not every single hour, every single

01:09:17 --> 01:09:20

day, but at certain times and places, you

01:09:20 --> 01:09:21

could find him if you if you needed

01:09:21 --> 01:09:23

to find him, if you wanted to ask

01:09:23 --> 01:09:24

him a question or do something.

01:09:25 --> 01:09:27

And he was the same when it came

01:09:27 --> 01:09:27

to Hajj.

01:09:28 --> 01:09:29

Testify what will be the next book? That's

01:09:29 --> 01:09:31

a big surprise. That's a big surprise. You're

01:09:31 --> 01:09:33

gonna have to wait and see. But hint

01:09:33 --> 01:09:35

hint hint, it's going to be going through

01:09:35 --> 01:09:37

something a little bit more classical.

01:09:37 --> 01:09:37

Something,

01:09:38 --> 01:09:39

with

01:09:40 --> 01:09:41

something that the companions

01:09:42 --> 01:09:44

said that they used to teach their children

01:09:44 --> 01:09:45

around the campfires.

01:09:47 --> 01:09:47

Nusayba

01:09:48 --> 01:09:50

Kossum says, as first time parents, we've struggled

01:09:50 --> 01:09:52

with screen time for our toddler since I'm

01:09:52 --> 01:09:53

home with her all the time while my

01:09:53 --> 01:09:55

husband did his 9 to 5. Any tips

01:09:55 --> 01:09:57

for weaning her out of it?

01:09:58 --> 01:10:00

Yes. Screen time is a very, very toxic

01:10:00 --> 01:10:02

thing, especially for young people. It's essentially and

01:10:02 --> 01:10:04

there's lots of research to indicate this now.

01:10:04 --> 01:10:07

I really, really discourage anybody from,

01:10:08 --> 01:10:11

using and it's tempting using devices

01:10:11 --> 01:10:12

as basically babysitters

01:10:12 --> 01:10:14

for your even for your teenagers,

01:10:14 --> 01:10:16

let alone for children that are younger than

01:10:16 --> 01:10:17

that.

01:10:18 --> 01:10:20

Exactly. You want to you need her to

01:10:20 --> 01:10:22

watch something to get things done around the

01:10:22 --> 01:10:24

home, but know that you are creating a

01:10:24 --> 01:10:25

habit cycle

01:10:26 --> 01:10:29

that is going to continue to require that

01:10:29 --> 01:10:32

type of stimulus and that they are going

01:10:32 --> 01:10:34

every time you allow them to watch,

01:10:36 --> 01:10:37

something like that with that intention,

01:10:38 --> 01:10:41

you maybe are doing a short term good

01:10:41 --> 01:10:43

for yourself, but there's a long term harm

01:10:43 --> 01:10:45

that they're not going to be content

01:10:45 --> 01:10:47

with something that is less

01:10:47 --> 01:10:48

stimulating

01:10:48 --> 01:10:50

for long. Right? So

01:10:51 --> 01:10:51

I would

01:10:52 --> 01:10:52

suggest

01:10:53 --> 01:10:55

a lot of time you know, there are

01:10:55 --> 01:10:56

if you look at some of, you know,

01:10:56 --> 01:10:59

child psychologists and developmental psychologists, they talk about

01:10:59 --> 01:11:02

sort of sensory stimulation when it comes to

01:11:02 --> 01:11:05

there's sand is very stimulating for toddlers,

01:11:05 --> 01:11:07

clay, things that are very tactile.

01:11:07 --> 01:11:10

Right? Things that are natural and that occur

01:11:10 --> 01:11:13

in the natural world as Allah created running

01:11:13 --> 01:11:15

water. Right? These are these are things that

01:11:15 --> 01:11:17

toddlers and other kids gravitate towards because they're

01:11:17 --> 01:11:18

naturally stimulating.

01:11:19 --> 01:11:21

Right? If you take your child outdoors, right,

01:11:21 --> 01:11:24

as much as possible, the outdoors, the all

01:11:24 --> 01:11:25

the bugs crawling along on the ground and

01:11:25 --> 01:11:27

all the blades of grass and all the

01:11:27 --> 01:11:29

flower petals and all the crunchy leaves and

01:11:29 --> 01:11:31

all the dirt. Yes. The dirt, All of

01:11:31 --> 01:11:34

that stuff is extremely stimulating to kids.

01:11:35 --> 01:11:37

And every time you allow your child to

01:11:37 --> 01:11:40

sort of be babysat by the screen, you're

01:11:40 --> 01:11:43

actually making it harder for them to connect

01:11:43 --> 01:11:44

and be stimulated by the things that the

01:11:44 --> 01:11:47

lost has put into the world naturally.

01:11:47 --> 01:11:48

So

01:11:48 --> 01:11:49

I think that's

01:11:50 --> 01:11:52

sort of how to do it, especially with

01:11:52 --> 01:11:53

toddlers. Sometimes toddlers

01:11:53 --> 01:11:54

really,

01:11:55 --> 01:11:57

sometimes easier with toddlers. You can really, like,

01:11:57 --> 01:11:58

cut it off all of a sudden and

01:11:58 --> 01:12:00

and, you know, your phone got broken or

01:12:00 --> 01:12:02

your phone is away or your phone is

01:12:02 --> 01:12:04

sleeping or your phone is nocturnal. You can

01:12:04 --> 01:12:05

say your phone is like an owl. It

01:12:05 --> 01:12:06

only comes out at night when they're asleep.

01:12:06 --> 01:12:08

Something like that. Know, you don't have to

01:12:08 --> 01:12:10

lie. I'm not advocating lying. But you can

01:12:10 --> 01:12:13

sometimes make dramatic changes with toddlers. Usually when

01:12:13 --> 01:12:15

they get older, that becomes a little bit

01:12:15 --> 01:12:15

more difficult,

01:12:16 --> 01:12:17

and Alana's best.

01:12:18 --> 01:12:19

One of the duties of Hajj is to

01:12:19 --> 01:12:20

stay in Muzdalifa.

01:12:21 --> 01:12:22

Yes.

01:12:23 --> 01:12:25

Unless you can't or unless you have a.

01:12:25 --> 01:12:26

Right? If you have a russa, then you

01:12:26 --> 01:12:28

don't have to stay there the night, then

01:12:28 --> 01:12:29

you can leave, sort

01:12:30 --> 01:12:31

of, you know, in the middle of the

01:12:31 --> 01:12:31

night.

01:12:33 --> 01:12:36

Very good. Ameen. May Allah protect all of

01:12:36 --> 01:12:37

us. Thank you very much everybody for your

01:12:37 --> 01:12:40

excellent engagement and stimulating conversation and questions as

01:12:40 --> 01:12:42

always. I think we're gonna leave it here

01:12:42 --> 01:12:42

for tonight.

01:12:43 --> 01:12:44

Inshallah. We'll see you next week.

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