BREAKING NEWS Muslim boy Killed in hate crime motivated by Israeli war – Ahmed Rehab on Ben Shapiro
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You loved like, local leaders say What do ya is an innocent bystander of hate connected to whenever anyone suggests that Israel is willfully killing civilians that is the most ignorant, bigoted, anti semitic book ever. He has been an agent of death and destruction. You've seen this calling for it cannot be a ceasefire. Anyone who calls for a ceasefire is a terrorist sympathizer under these circumstances, applauding it? Well, you know, I think you're gonna see a new playbook. And I think a lot of Palestinians are gonna get killed, came out and found her six year old son, while day after you may wounded beyond belief this young boy was stabbed 26 times. A tough story to report on
attempted to choker and said you Muslims must die 71 year old Joseph shuba now facing first degree murder attempted first degree murder and two counts of hate crime charges. 12 inch knife was still his body when he was taken for an autopsy somebody was radicalized somebody did the radicalizing Israel kills enough of the sons of bitches. It's unacceptable. It's disgusting. Thing Israel shutting off water power and food to Gaza is insane. It doesn't make sense.
Like what's the end goal there? Exactly.
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Bismillah Alhamdulillah wa salam alaikum greetings of peace. We have some very heartbreaking news. Police say the boy and his mother had been targeted because they're Muslim, an act of hatred against this Palestinian family.
This is one of the last pictures taken of WebGL for Umi, who just a couple of weeks ago celebrated his sixth birthday. His life was brutally taken away yesterday morning at his home in unincorporated Plainfield after he was stabbed 26 times with a military style knife will count the investigators saying today he and his mother were attacked by their landlord, Joseph czuba. The 71 year old is now charged with first degree murder attempted first degree murder and two counts of committing a hate crime we have is a murdered Palestinian child by someone who was radicalized by the environment in which we live right now that casts Palestinians as human animals just developed. I'm here with Ahmed
rehab here in the studio. This is the day show.
how much respect I have for the faith of Islam. Show. Welcome to the deen show the deen show
about Allah. We just came from the press conference. We often see these things now that are developing on the other side of the world. And you wouldn't think now you are on your way to see me and then you tell me that right here in our backyard. We had a telephone listen what happened? Yeah, this interview was pre planned. And we're supposed to have it earlier today. But we had to delay it because of this incident. And you were there at the press conference and you saw and heard. Sadly, you know worst nightmare came to fruition. A warning to our viewers the details ahead are indeed disturbing. You're right. We live in an interconnected world and all the good and bad ways. And what
happens in some places affect what happens and others
hate crime. A horrible heinous attack on a six year old boy and his mother, by their landlord knocked on the door. The mother opened the door. He knocked on the door and that he attempted to choke her and said you Muslims must die. He attempted to choke her and he stabbed her and he yelled things like you Muslims need to die. She ran into the bathroom to call now
In one one, and by the time she was out, he had located her six year old son stabbed him 26 times. The 12 inch knife was still in his body when he was taken for an autopsy. And she says in the texts to her husband from the hospital hospital where she sits in serious condition. This all happened in seconds.
You know, we're, we're at a loss of words.
When you have something like this happen in our backyard here in Plainfield and the Naperville district, what is lauded as one of the safest and best neighborhoods to raise a family in the United States because the safest place to raise a family yeah, yeah. And this wasn't, you know, an arbitrary crime. This was this was a crime of hate, a hate crime. And somebody was radicalized somebody did the radicalizing Israel kills enough of the sons of bitches, that this is not a problem. This person wasn't always like this. According to the family. As a matter of fact, the family says he was rather decent with you said he helped build a tree house at least a he the
suspect built for the victim, no warning signs, you've never had any bad interactions with your neighbor. With John, the father says, who doesn't live with a family because the parents are divorced. It's just the mother was 32. And the son who's six, that the father said that he had built the son, a, you know, a tree house in the backyard, and he would get him toys. And he was generally nice to them. So when he knocked on the door, they didn't suspect much she had been angry about what's going on in the news. And you've been watching a lot of the news, which takes me to the context of this. And I gotta say, before I go there that ultimately, the hand that stabs is the hand
that's to blame, right? We, as a Muslim community, don't like to extend blame to the entire community when a Muslim acts up. So that's pretty clear. But the context in which this person who otherwise seem normal, became became so such a monster, you know, was brainwashed. That context is something for us to pause and think about the context of the one sided lopsided statements by politicians elected officials by the one sided coverage by the media, day in day out, that built up such a frenzy of hatred by other rising Muslims, Palestinians, dehumanizing Palestinians, even as Palestinians in Gaza are being decimated. What does the situation on the ground look like now?
Well, I understand again, I Shahadat Luxa Hospital, which is located in Darrell Bella and southern Gaza. And this is where basically the Israeli military asked Gazans to evacuate. And what we are witnessing right now is whole families children, woman arriving to the hospitals. The Israeli warplanes attacked airstrikes a home that belonged to Abu Zubaydah family located in their little Bella and southern Gaza, we saw whole families I myself, so children, at least 10 children under the age of five with their heads cut off their bodies.
If you can see around me, we can still see the ambulances arriving to the shahada Al Aqsa hospital, mostly woman, mostly children. I mean, this is undescribable. This is like a massacre, from the skies.
You're talking about almost probably now more than double the number of victims in the Saturday attack in Israel, happening in Gaza sanction this time, by the world by the United States by our President, by our governor, by our mayor, by our elected officials by our medium, the same exact voices that expressed rightly such, you know, rage about targeting innocent civilians in Israel, those same voices are now supporting what is happening. They're saying I stand with Israel. And that, to me is a clear message of support as to what Israel is doing to the Palestinians. So you're talking about 20 250 civilians, civilians killed in Gaza, and more, we're still counting 725, at
least of whom are children, hospitals being attacked, even as the entire Gaza Strip only has 2500 beds and all of its hospitals. And we're talking about 10s of 1000s of people injured bodies strewn on the floor, in the kitchens in the bathrooms, those JAM PACKED hospitals as these defenseless people attempt to, you know, bring life to these bodies. They're being bombed. A million individuals civilians being asked, being demanded, commanded to leave their homes from the north of Gaza to the south. That's an exodus. That's a stampede. That's a recipe for humanitarian crisis. And these are not just my words, but that's also the assessment of the United Nations.
Given 24 hours to do so, or else, these are the conditions we're talking about all of this in the already ravaged, you know, open air prison that is Gaza, completely sealed off food, water, shelter, food, water, fuel, electricity.
And it's hunting season and you know, he's shooting, you know, fish in a barrel, they're sitting ducks. So this is happening. And then on top of it, those Palestinians, Americans living here, you know, heartbroken, where it's sick for their family, frustrated by this injustice and by the double standards are subjected to acts like this. And you can just imagine where they are mentally right now. Where their hearts are, where their feelings are. And this father, he said two things to me that were very powerful. The first he said, I said, you know, keep your faith strong.
Allah's Will supreme, and your son is an angel. He's in paradise.
And he said, me and my children, all of us
can be sacrificed for Palestine.
And the second thing he said,
he said, I came here for my children. And he started at zero. He has been strong has been steadfast, his broken, right his his in shock. He's completely destroyed inside. But it's it's putting up his best face. But at that moment, you know, his voice cracked because I came here for my children. And now I'm burying them. And this is his only child, the six year old. They just celebrated his birthday a couple of weeks ago.
And this beautiful little boy is darling boy, what the let's call him by his name.
He loved basketball, they loved soccer. He loved coloring, bright colors, he left to swing around. He asked his father, what does he love, and he looked at me and he laughed in pain and said, is a six year old boy, he loves everything. He loves everyone.
He doesn't understand what's happening in the world. But this radicalized man, and what he did to him and his mother has now brought so much pain that will never leave the mother or the father or the extended community of the family for the rest of their lives.
While I want people to really paint that picture in their mind, I mean, so this is they were living there for two years.
And she's now at home.
And this is the landlord. So it's not some nutjob off the street. It's a house not apartment building. So it's not just some you know, fringe person that you just don't know, it's your landlord. And you've developed some kind of relationship. But then you can see how powerful the what we call this hate propaganda, this atrocity propaganda, the likes of Ben Shapiro, person who does not value life or children, or decency, the same way that you do has been absolutely ridiculous has been horrible. Israel kills enough of the sons of bitches that this is not a problem. And whenever anyone suggests that Israel is willfully killing civilians, that is the most ignorant, bigoted, anti
semitic book ever. He has been an agent of death and destruction. You've seen this holing for it cannot be a ceasefire. Anyone who calls for a ceasefire is a terrorist sympathizer under these circumstances, you're applauding it. They say that I want America to fight wars for Israel. Nope, nope. First of all Israel can take care of herself.
If Israel is forced to the wall, the possibility of nuclear exchange is extremely high. That is why it is very important that the United States provide the material aid to Israel
Gods I don't know how you can watch someone like that and not feel like you know, and the categorizing you know, human beings as animals now when they're coming biota dump so this this person if he's watching someone like Ben Shapiro, if he's listening to Jordan Peele, give him hell give him hell. So what happens now? This gets into your blood, your mind your psyche, and you're seeing and then the whole not to talk about you have the CNN and you have a Sarah Sidner. Yeah, CNN as journalists apologizes for making claims of Palestinian beheaded children. Do you care about the babies that were beheaded? And maybe it would never beheaded? That was a made up story. How do you
show me the pictures now? So what about the picture? You're online?
You're fooling up the reporting by one Israeli TV channel that 40 babies were murdered by Hamas, including being beheaded makes a number of the front pages we have asked on three occasions, the IDF to confirm they have not confirmed this reporting. If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you do read it, you're misinformed. I was the CIA director. We lied. We cheated. We still stole
like Well, that went viral. And it started with a soldier who
was known for his right wing tendencies who spoke to a journalist who's apparently known for being incompetent because she was. And then it just became a story and nobody verified it. And he got it wasn't their president. And the President repeated it, he repeated it. And by the time they corrected it and retracted it, the damage was done. Now, obviously, it's not to say that other forms of targeting civilians is okay. I mean, what happened in Israel is something you know, I don't condone, I don't Muslim condone, we don't care where you stand on the conflict, etc. As a Muslim, I'm pretty clear, you don't target civilians. That's something I would ever condone is even for just
cause. But I thought we all agreed on that. I thought both sides agreed on that. But the same side that agreed with me that this is atrocious when it happened in Israel suddenly turned around and applauded it, accepted it. And on top of it cheered for it on top of it became material support for it gave $8 billion gave our biggest for gate our biggest worship for it and give every piece of moral support. Every statement you can give the ice stand with. This is what they're telling us. And that's very confusing to me, because I'm supposed to be the terrorist sympathizer. Do you think now this all this that we're talking about, and then the lie the spread all across the globe, babies
beheaded. This man is seeing that he's getting pumped up now. He's got a Palestinian tenant.
That's part of it. But it's not this one story. It's, you know, every atmosphere, the atmosphere, along with this story that failed to distinguish between actors of a crime, and people rank and file families. And moreover, giving their blessing to the decimation of these hundreds of 1000s of people from the skies,
dehumanizing them as human animals per the verbatim language of the Israeli Defense Minister, nobody chided him for that nobody, you know, approached him with with any words of criticism for using these racist inhumane terms. But that set the ground for how a lot of the media and the politicians in America, thanks to the political pressures in this country, they've sold their souls. They've showed cowardly, immoral leadership.
And they've just piled on. And so someone like that person, some weak minded weeks old person becomes radicalized becomes brainwashed, and acts upon it if your neighbor, our neighbor, this is somebody who built a tree house now he's somebody who's stabbing his tenants to death choker and said, you Muslims must die. And we have to pause and ask what is the power of media? What is the power of this one sided, you know, volume that this this this this onslaught of material that breeds and fans the flames of hate? I'm just trying to wrap my mind around it. It just all this that's we've seen this before, haven't we? We've seen this post 911. You would think that we learned from
this and we haven't learned a thing. We're back to square one. We're back to square one. It seems like because the moment we're under pressure, we fall back to that stupid stampedes style. And it's not mindless, actually. It's mindful. They know what they're doing.
They know that there's another side to the story. They know that Palestinians suffered for 75 years, they know that what has dead does not represent Palestinian history, Palestinian life, you know, the grievances, the absolutely legitimate grievances. Palestinians have cannot be summarized, and shut down in this little capsule that they call Hamas and then the left to harp on that because that takes away from the larger story and the larger context and all the suffering and all the abuse and all the dispossession, the occupation itself, which is the root cause of this conflict, and the oppression, the apartheid regime that comes along with it. Nobody wants to talk about that. Instead,
they want to extend Hamas to the entire Palestinian population, if not the entire Muslim population, and breed fear and hatred and scare monger against all Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims. And so they can justify their war crimes. And so they can have a cover for the immoral, you know, death and destruction that they're wreaking on regular people.
So it's not that people can understand when they cut off the food, the water electricity, you have to point to what 2 million people human beings. So they know now they know they're violating human rights agencies, organizations are stepping up. The war crimes are being committed targeted attacks on civilian infrastructure with a clear aim to cut off men, women, children of water, electricity and heating with the winter coming. These are acts of pure terror, and we have to call it as such luck, collective punishment, collective punishment, but it's not. It's not that people can identify that the human rights, they understand human rights, but they have a problem distinguishing who's
human. It seems like it's just a double standard. I mean, we understand that these acts are wrong
when it's the right victim,
if it's Israelis, if it's Ukrainians,
if it's so they're so that's the game if they're human, but they're in Europe, if it's if it's if it's a white population. But somehow when it comes to brown and black, quite frankly, we don't seem to get it all of a sudden, we get confused. And we can still see in front of our very own eyes, the same images of destruction, right, targeting civilians, hospitals, schools, neighborhoods. But suddenly, we don't have the same response. We don't have the same morality. And suddenly we're excusing it and we're saying, oh, there but the, the use the civilians as human shields, his had gotten in the way of my bullet.
You've heard probably most of these talking points, it seems like they got a memo. And just everyone is repeating the same talking point. I call it a stampede, a stampede of madness of a morality, of hypocrisy of hate. The stampede, just like the builder, Beast, mindless to talk about human animals.
It's human animalistic, to fan the flames of hate, and to excuse the murder of civilians at this level. There's a lot of Christians also are starting to wake up to this and called other Christians who have gone towards the Zionism and calling them away from this. But I'm also just shocked because you see, you know, our friends and others who are out there, many conservative Christians who now have fallen into this trap and they're going down this direction. And you have Jesus who he loved was one of the mightiest messengers, obviously, we love Jesus peace be upon him. He was just a prophet and significant No, no, we don't I believe he's a prophet. What do you think he was? What do
you what do I think he was historically, I think he was a Jew who tried to lead a revolt against the Romans and got killed for his trouble, just like a lot of other Jews at that time, who were crucified for trying to lead revolt against the Roman a guy killed for their trouble. He's, and He's the prince of priests. And we preach this love, love your neighbor this. But it seems like and I was listening to this Palestinian Christian, and he was like, talking against the Zionism and the Christians. He's just really disappointed how they said, how they pretty much forgotten about them, the Christians there, right. That's the missing part of the of the story. Again, all of these human
stories are missing, because they only want to talk about Hamas. Because when they only talk about Hamas, they're able to render Palestinians as orcs right as as sort of, you know, they're just an extension of a militant group and kills and you've heard this term that they call them that orcs? Hmm. I mean, that's the description, I would use this to how there was a rabbi actually, I was listening to one of the on the extreme side was actually Oh, you do actually use that term. So I didn't even know that. I just want to say this to our Christian friends, you know,
just just to call it as it is, and say it straight out, you know, you guys are worshipping one Jew.
That's a mistake. You should be worshiping every single one of us because we all die for your sins every single day. And that's exactly what's going on here. We're all God's first Brenner would die for your sins right now. Because because the Jewish people in the land of Israel are the bulwark against the orcs. And okay, the orcs are coming, not to a theater near you, but to your home, I'll actually actually know that. Yeah, but that's how they're trying to present Palestinians. And so, you know, listen, you have to justify mass murder somehow. So to do it, you need to dehumanize those who are trying to, to wipe out so that nobody can come after you and say that you are a mass killer,
that you're engaging in state terror, you have to justify your act. And so you have to build up the hatred, you have to build up the dehumanization. And that's why they only want to talk about one word, but they don't want to talk about the actual life. That is Palestinian life, the weddings, the graduations, the dinner parties, the families, the shopkeepers, the everyday life, that doesn't exist.
All of that doesn't exist, it just is just a bunch of militants and an outgrowth.
That is the Palestinians to it. Mind you, this whole conflict began in 1947 1948 years before Hamas was ever for him as a consequence, to the creation of Israel,
among many other consequences. And so
to start history at that point and the conflict at that point, and then also to start it last Saturday, not to be able to contextualize it larger issues is not excused the Act. As I said earlier, when we're referring to the landlord, those who commit a crime by their hand they are to blame.
But how can we talk about the larger conflict? If we only have the memory of Saturday? We don't have the memory of the air raids before that. The murder of many if murdering civilians is the issue, which I think it is, then how come there was no concern outcome? There was no outrage when 3040 times the number of civilians that were killed in Israel are killed in palace
Stein over the last few years happened through air rates through settler violence. And it's not just about murder, it's about the humiliation and the dispossession, taking land, taking homes, forcing people out at will impunity, nowhere for you to go. Gaza itself, by the way, that these 2 million these are not natives to Gaza. These are already displaced people whose lands have already been confiscated, whose possessions have already been taken, who've been forced into Gaza, a lot of them. And now they're being forced into southern Gaza. And from there, God knows where maybe it will push them into Egypt or out into Jordan, and so on and so forth. That is part of the story. Now, we can
ignore that all that all day long, but the world knows the context, and how can you bring peace if you can't even acknowledge reality?
If there's no accountability? Right. So what we're seeing right now is a clown show, frankly, it's it's delusional. It's double, you know, there's, it's duplicitous. There's a double standard. I'm all for having clear moral standards when it comes to not targeting civilians, but I would want the other side those who are pro Israel, to show that they actually stand for that I don't think that they do.
I want to share a couple clips with you. What can the people that are not familiar with how IDF operates learn meaning? Allegedly, they sent 3000 texts to Palestinian citizens urging them to leave, they've dropped leaflets, they've dropped food before they do what's called I believe roof knocks that saying, hey, you've got five minutes to vacate the building, because we've identified this building as a place that a missile came from. So meaning they're trying to limit civilian casualties, whereas obviously Hamas has will gladly rape and pillage whoever they come across. What should the world know about how the IDF is operating to save civilian lives?
Well, you know, I think you're gonna see a new playbook. And I think a lot of Palestinians are gonna get killed. There's nowhere to go.
I mean, this is what they call gaslighting, right, gaslighting, this is gaslighting. I mean, this is this is insane propaganda. I mean, imagine if I were to tell you, hey, Eddie, you and your family, you got five minutes to get out of here, I warned you.
And then I wreak havoc on your house. Now imagine if I say this about your neighborhood. And imagine if I say this about your city? Imagine if I say this about your entire country. I mean, you're talking about a million people, that's half the population leaving. So half the population has homes in which missiles are being launched from it. It's not about that.
And this whole, so called benevolent IDF is part of that ridiculous propaganda. I mean, the IDF is created to gun down Palestinians to take over land.
We have a right to defend themselves, they say, but do you have a right to occupy? Do you have a right to attack? Do you have a right to read?
Do you have a right to kill civilians? That seems to be what they believe is part of self defense. So now we have a problem as to the definition of self defense.
And when you move the goalposts that way, it becomes a semantic exercise becomes a game. And that's what we're seeing. And there are a bunch of those tropes a bunch of those canards, a bunch of those excuses. You hear, Oh, you know, the use? Whenever Whenever the numbers come out, and they can dispute them, of how many people die and how innocent they are, because their children and women. If they were men, they would just attribute them being, you know, militants? Yes. So okay, let's talk about the children and the women. And then what do you do? Then they go to the point that oh, well, we were just shooting the militants, but they use the children, women as human shields. You always
hear this? Yes. You always hear that? How do you respond to that out? I mean, is that what you did when you were attacked in Israel?
Were these dead Israeli women and children human shields? What gives you the right or the thought that you're human enough to want your women and children to live?
But that Palestinians are so subhuman, that they want their children and women to die to protect themselves. These men at the very root of this, regardless if it's Hamas, or whoever, right? The very notion and this and this is something that they address to the entire Palestinian population to the Palestinian makeup, right? It's it's meant to dehumanize Palestinians, but they're less than you and me. But they don't have normal familial relation relationships. They don't have normal human instincts. They're human animals.
And they do it as they raise their country, their land to the ground. If you can call it a country, I mean, the strip is essentially an open air prison. It's called a strip for a reason. Many call it now a reservation, a concentration camp. That's pretty much what it is. And they've tried Palestinian people
Oh, god bless their hearts are resilient, resilient people. And I can't imagine what life is like in a place like this most densely populated, seal from all sides. They get to decide what goes in what comes out, whether it's a pencil or a medicine. And despite of that they've lived. And they've, they've married and they've had weddings, and they've had birthday parties, and they've had soccer games, and they've had homework at school. And so they try to live and that's, that's a testament to Palestinian resilience, but they want to erase Palestinian life. And that's why I tell my Palestinian brothers and sisters, especially the young people who are involved in activism, is
dropped the slogans, right, the hay is the whole hose, you know, the chance and fight back with what matters, your stories? If the idea here if if the strategy here is to dehumanize you so that they can erase you and wipe you out? Then you had better humanize you, you had better tell your story, the story of your cousin of your nephew of your auntie of your uncle, who is back home, what they're going through, but a face to the story.
And tell the stories of your past, not just your present, your grandparents, your parents, and what they've been through, and how they felt.
We can't erase the human when it comes to the Palestinian side when it comes to understanding of covering the Palestinian side. But that's what the media has done consistently. That's definitely what the Israeli government and its modus operandi when it comes to its communication and propaganda has done. That is what the United States in lockstep with Israel has done. That's what this horrible man who killed this innocent child has fallen for. And so the way to fight back is existences resistance exist with your story.
What do you like to say when people go?
They say, Okay, this was when they go historically. And then you you hear them using this argument now that this is our land. This is the Jewish land, this is from 3000 years ago. And now, this is our birthright. How do you like to answer this? You know, I'm not interested in these types of debates and conversations, because what you're going to have is one side, whatever you tell them is going to have some answer for that. It's going to have some alternative view of what you're saying. And vice versa. These debates go nowhere. What we're talking about right now is not some academic debate, or we're talking about right now, is human rights abuse. That's what we've been talking
about. That's what's been happening, where we talking about is humanitarian crises, what we're talking about is war crimes. And in instances, the civilians or target acts of terror, whether it is you know, by militants or by governments and their militaries. And so that's what interests me in terms of, we have to, we have to have that tough conversation. And we have to level and say, Look, you can't get away with this. You have to be accountable for this those who say, I stand with Israel have to own this. That's you telling me this? It's not me. You say I stand with Israel. So you say I stand with war crimes. You are telling me you stand with oppression and occupation. You're telling
me you stand with raising hospitals to the ground and neighborhoods killing of women and children. The stats are there, the numbers are there. The stories are there. You're telling me you stand with them? I don't really tell you I stand with terrorists. I've never told you that. You accused me of that. I've never said I stand with that. But you say you stand with Israel so you stand with what Israel does. And you have you see Israeli Jewish you have people I recently saw an Israeli Jewish man he's crying. It's unacceptable. It's disgusting. I seen videos you know.
I saw videos of Palestinian dads holding their his dead like five year old daughter I mean
it and there was another one that like
as a father It's even hard to talk about. This dude was holding his infant it was like a year old
he was like patting her on the back and saying like his final goodbye. I mean it was he's holding her like she's alive like he's just burping or something.
Didn't expect to get emotional about that.
but like I'm a new dad that * really *s me up.
And I hate to see it
it's not right. I think people in Israel that support the government and the government need to watch that *.
Think Israel shutting off water power food to Gaza is insane. It doesn't make sense.
Like what's the end goal there? Exactly.
This is a cruelty in a brutality. That is unbelievable.
And Joe Biden talks about the other side the Palestinians as being evil. This is such a PA cracy is enraging this this this hypocrisy these attempts to show the other side is evil while completely glossing off the savagery by Israel and with the support, like you said earlier support of the United States. Look at these pictures. What do you think is under this rubble? This is all civilian, it's always civilians. 55% of the people in Gaza are under the age of 18. It's an entire society of children. But if you're a human being like a human being right, hang with me for one second. So as soon as I heard that Israel cut off Palestine as well my first thought was would have lots of water
to millions of children and civilians during a time of war. What kind of a barbaric act is that? And my second thought was, we might as well control Palestine water and a brief search gotten into this by Amnesty International titled the occupation of water Alright, soon after Israel occupied the West Bank including East Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip, the Israeli military authorities consolidated complete power over all Water Resources and Water related infrastructure in the occupied Palestinian territories. Oh Petey, and I know what you're thinking, well, they took over existing infrastructure, so build some new ones Israeli military order. 158 stated that Palestinians could
not construct any new water installation without first obtaining a permit from the Israeli army. Since then, the extraction of water from any new source the development of any new one water, water infrastructure would require permits from Israel which are near impossible to obtain it gets. They are unable to drill new water wells installed pumps or deepen existing wells in addition to being denied access to the Jordan River, right. Israel even controls the collection of rainwater throughout most of the West Bank, and rainwater harvesting systems on by Palestinian communities are often destroyed by the Israeli army. As a result, some 180 Palestinian communities in rural areas in
the occupied West Bank have no access to running water, they don't have access to water. But what the banya because the resulting disparity and access to water between Israelis and Palestinians is truly staggering. Water consumption by Israelis is at least four times that of Palestinians living in the OP T, Palestinians consume an average of 73 liters of water per day per person, which is well below the World Health Organization's recommended daily minimum, minimum month. In rural areas, it's as low as 20 Liters per person per day. And how much water the Israeli drink? Sure, I'll tell you, by contrast, an average Israeli consumed approximately 300 liters of water per day. You see, we talk
a lot about values. But let me tell you something about American values. If I took my dog to a restaurant right now, the server, the owner, on their own dime would bring out a cup of water for strangers. For strangers, isn't during wartime, this is status quo. What kind of an insidious
event will make it a point to make sure intentionally that an entire population stays thirsty. People are here talking about freedom, voting rights, passports, airplanes, he's watching He's saying look, you know, he's it's blowing his mind. I don't know if you saw many of these videos, you know, people who just have a heart their heart is when they're seeing like you're seeing the human side, they're not falling for the these are animals and they're seeing these, they're seeing actually images. Now, this is not fake news. They're seeing all of the hospital footage. They're seeing fathers with their children's fairpoint. And they're seeing body parts and all over the
place. Look in Israel proper, right? You have people who are so incensed Israelis, Jewish Jewish Israelis are so incensed with what's happening in their name. And and they let it be known. And some of them are reporters, some of them are some newspapers, like the highlights.
Some of them are influencers, some of them are everyday people. They're a smaller minority that need to go ahead and yeah, don't worry, they're vociferously. Yes, definitely. They're not in the majority. Otherwise, you wouldn't have to Yeah, and power, the majority voted for him at least a plurality.
And looking at the general propaganda in Israel, on their television, on their news and on their social media, definitely these voices are in the minority, but they exist. And in the United States, they exist as well. I mean, Jews, some of them who consider themselves to be pro Israel, some who don't. But you have those voices who are pretty clear about their condemnation of the human rights abuses, in the name of Israel or in general. Right. And I was called by Rabbi who we had gone off on the wrong footing and this guy's a pretty well known leader in the Orthodox Jewish community. And it was pretty genuine
right when he called me and said, Look,
there's hurt in my community, but I'm calling to express, you know, my empathy with the hurt in yours to ask how you're doing. You know, he said, I don't want to debate. You know, I said the same thing. And he didn't call to love I litmus test. Right? It was a human to human conversation. Yeah. And we had gone off to the wrong footing. But I had confronted him about what was the problem. And he had clarified and apologized and we became something of friends. And so little later he called me said, I've been thinking about what you said, about our common humanity. I've been thinking about the pain in your community. And I appreciate it that that sense of goodwill, that's all we're asking
for here, right? We're asking for us to become to be the humans that we are, you know, I don't want to I don't want to fall into I don't want us to fall into tribalism and territorialism and teams, Muslims, Jews, right, this that, I think we need to fall back on our common humanity, draw your virtues and values from which wherever you want for me, it's from Islam.
But show me who you are, through your positions through your stances, and moreover, through your actions.
And, you know, it's easy to propagandize it's easy to throw terms like, you know, terrorists terrorist terrorist, sympathizer tear supporter. But, you know, I've never stood for the murder of any civilian. But I see today in my country in the United States of America, from my president, all the way down to some shoddy influenza like Ben Shapiro
expressions that support the murder of civilians or at least excuse them, or at least contextualize them as okay. What do you what do you suggest you know, how do you tackle because you've seen so many videos you're seeing so many things coming up and it seems like one of the one of the things that you're getting to see is you're getting to see people's colors you're getting to see people in the True Self coming out. We don't have a problem if somebody's doing something against because I think that's that's another another important things why Islam is
its authentic, you have everything there from when you wake up in the morning to when you go to sleep, everything is laid out beautifully. So we can call out someone if they're doing something opposite to Islam if somebody's going out there and killing innocent people we have clear the problem Muhammad he clearly forbade killing innocent men, women and children is very crystal clear. You can't get around it. So now how about on the other side you've seen you've seen these videos with what are you from? I've always said, Are you IDF soldier? Yes I am. Didn't the IDF they bomb Gaza and they and they they kept hundreds of children? I don't know about it. Okay, I just know that
we bombed them because they bombed us Okay, and what about before that? Why did they bomb you guys? I don't know why. Okay, maybe it's something like a lot of years ago but you don't know the information before Israel? 1948 It was Palestine. Yeah. Oh, no.
No, it was called Palestine before 1948 Maybe it is and it still is right now. It's occupied Palestine. Yes. Yeah. By IDF.
idea of finding. Okay. Why?
And if you like again, I do in your Okay. By the way, does he innocent Palestinians? I haven't been to every Palestinian you see you go.
some of these. And you've seen you actually the march of return. Remember the march of return? Yeah, like 700. There was no human shields done. These were people in wheelchairs. You were these were? You had journalists you had
you had just your average person who was there. They weren't putting anybody there was no soldiers there. So they were trying to protest peacefully. And you see, I think was like 108, almost 200 People were were gunned down by the IDF. But then you're you're seeing the idea of where are they getting this? You see some rabbis I don't you see these who are saying don't mercy.
Anyone was merciful over vicious people, ultimately will become vicious towards merciful people. There is no permission from the Divine to have any mercy whatsoever
not on children, not on women, not on anybody.
Why? Because if a person understands what is roaring while you're fighting, they're actually saying so you're actually in the time of war you're not supposed to have you seen somebody's videos. I mean, you know, there's definitely that component and then you have radicalization, right? Yeah, but just radicalized it's out of this world like hyper nationalist. So now, our Christian friends and others who are supporting this, should they be calling this out? If they see shouldn't be stepping up like we slowly beginning
Again, I mean, these are all gimmicks. I mean, you know, when we get these calls from people who say, Do you condemn this? Do you condemn that? I said, Look, stop. Stop it with your gimmick. You tell them, I say stop with your gimmick. You know where I stand, because I've never told you otherwise. It's telling me you stand with this. You got to explain yourself.
Okay, because what it is, it's a distraction tactic. It's put you on the defensive tactic. Yeah, I'm supposed to sit on the hot seat and debate some schmuck like, Oh, hey, you know, Hannity, or Riley or somebody while they ask you all these questions and, and sort of vet your moral character because you're not as moral as he is. While this, you know, jerk basically is supporting the murder of children and women, and not apologizing for beating his chest proudly saying he stands with it. So no, we're not we're not playing this game. Yeah, my virtues and values are clear. They're consistent. I've never said otherwise. And you've told me where you stand. So you need to explain
That's where it's at. And today, it's again, if it were in the reverse, that have the same position.
If it were the Palestinians, with the massive army, strong army, and the Israelis who were, you know, cooped up in some strip,
I would have the same exact moral position. It's not about teams. It's not about colors. It's not about tribes. It's about justice and truth. And the principles are consistent for me. It just so happens that in this instance, we have a clear occupier and occupied oppressor and oppressed. who happened to be on one side, the Israelis, the other side, the Palestinians, as it stands today, yeah. Have you flipped it and ask them and how was their response? You interact with a lot of different people? Do you because obviously, your position is clear. We condemn killing of innocent life clear, it's clear, we have no problem hesitation as hesitating, and doing this. But when you
ask them, Do you condemn right now? What is it like? How many babies have been killed right now? Five? 600? How many? Around that number? Yeah, hundreds. I mean, if a journalist has I want to ask you, do you? Do you ask them? Do you condemn the killing now of all these hundreds, hundreds of innocent lives there? Do you kill them? That's where the obfuscate meaning that they try to the human. The human rights violations now, with the shutting off of food, the collective punishment? Do you condemn the march of return the Christian Shareen? Her name was journalist Yeah. Right. Who was assassinated journalist, and then all her coffin carriers were brutalized. You can go the list goes
on and on. They'll always What did they say? They'll always have an excuse. They'll always have a deflection, they'll always have a counter attack. So in the case of what's happening in Palestine, they'll say, well, they they brought, they brought this upon themselves, at least we give them advance notice how mass didn't give advance notice in Israel.
And they are, they've had this land for, you know, whatever number of years. And instead of building it up, they've decided to, you know, send their terrorists upon us.
And they'll justify and justify and justify, to which I say, again, we can go back and debate each point and the history and the context. But I'm just I'll keep it simple. What do you say, you told me, You're the one who told me that there can be no justification for acts of terror, there can be no justification for the murder of civilians. And I agree with you, I happen to agree with you. But then you're you reneged on that position. And now you're telling me there is justification, sometimes when it's me doing the killing, for the murder of civilians,
when some people and there are people in the Muslim community, in the Palestinian Arab community, who will have a hard time condemning attacks on Israel, because they feel that they will lose political capital. And that's what's happening on the Israeli side. They're obfuscating on the morality because they feel that they're afraid to lose political capital. And so however, when when those attacks happen in Israel,
it was clear to me that the Israeli side was saying, you can't ever blame us for this. Because there is no justification regardless of the context regardless of the occupation, regardless of the oppression.
This is condemned bubble period. Fine.
So now, are you coming at me and saying that there is some context some justification, some whatever mitigating variables for the murder or the mass murder of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, you see how that double standard works the kit when when you are morally inconsistent, you are immoral. To be moral, you must have two things clarity, and consistency. The reason they're not clear is because there's cowardice
There's no, there's no courage.
You need moral courage to be morally clear. And secondly, you need to be consistent in all situations, you have the same standards. I'm not seeing that, from many of those who criticizes from many of those who attack us. I'm not seeing it from politicians from the media, from the Israeli side from the Ben Shapiro's mean that's a guy who has been harping on God, God, God. And he said some very nice things about God and family for the longest time, but his mask has fallen under the under that. Now you're getting to see people's true right under this has been nothing but an agent of darkness, death and destruction agent of darkness, you know, He's appealing for it. He's raising
his hands up to the skies for it, his claiming God, his God, because he's only his God somehow, right? justifies this and sanctions this. And there are hundreds of people who applaud him for it. And that's scary. That's scary. And there ain't no FBI watching that Facebook group, or that Facebook page, and the radicalized voices who are calling for murder of civilians and applauding it.
But you'll have a Muslim or an Arab or a Palestinian who says something that isn't remotely as abrasive, and maybe it will be contacted or called. Before we conclude, tell me this, how do you for the average person? I mean, now they understand, it seems like the mainstream media, same talking points, everything you're talking about the human story, and people if they just put themselves in the situation of these human beings. How would they react? You know, have you seen that movie? Patrick? Sorry, Swayze Red Dawn, have you ever seen it long time? I've heard of it. I haven't watched it. This is okay. This is my generation a little older than you. But I think people should
watch that. I mean, if you just anybody, where people love the was a second amendment?
No, really valuing our land someone steps on our property. We think the average American, you see so much hypocrisy. We don't even we don't get to go so far. We got a recession. But if we did, that's a valid point. I mean, we're still we're still at the point of like, if you could compare, if you were just to compare, we put the American and take them out? How would they handle it? Right? If we put the ratio? Right, you would think like, man, well, he's probably not very patient. People are very merciful. I mean, you have you have every American, you know, in every red state, you know, with a rifle or a gun, an assignment that's not every American but you know, a lot, you know, get off my
lawn, don't try it on there. Yeah, that's I'm talking about. And the Americans understand that. That's, that's a very important thing. As a matter of fact, this entire country was built on a reaction to oppression, on a rejection of oppression.
And it was an armed, it was an armed resistance, it was an armed uprising against oppression. And that's been the case in many instances of history, Western and otherwise, it's only understood and excused as part of a larger context of push and pull of two sides going at it for different reasons, right. But when it comes to other people,
it can only be you're just evil and, and violent. And you're doing it for no damn reason other than to spill blood. Now, I'm not talking here about targeting civilians. I'm talking about, you know, military to military type of warfare or, you know, struggle. But that's still that kind of that kind of understanding still wouldn't be given, right. It's only given in the context of say Ukraine. Yeah. But if Syrians are trying to defend themselves against the same aggressors have so happens in Russian planes, then there's not much support or understanding. But does it go back to they look like us? They weren't like that's part of it. That's part of it. Part of Ukraine is okay, but over
here, right. And your Bosnian Bosnia wasn't okay. Bosnia, wasn't okay to defend themselves. There was an armistice there was basically a ban on arms. Yeah, for Bosnians of
subjected to a genocide. Yeah. And it wasn't until they had been killed mass murder in large numbers, that action began to be taken. Right. And they're white, and they're European, but they were Muslim. So now, we're now we're seeing something of a theme here. So maybe it's the religion and the race combined. Look, I don't like to be flippant, right. I think at the end of the day, I judge humans on an individual level, not not a race level or religion level. But there's definitely a blind spot in our quote unquote, Western civilization when it comes to moral standards, their clarity, their consistency, and their applicability to all people. Were we that weren't we the ones
here from over here. We wanted to prove our point we wanted to when Pearl Harbor comes next, you know, I mean, this is not
command center. This was a whole what was it a whole Hiroshima, Nagasaki? Yeah, I mean, talking about justifying, and again, there was a time
optics for that, etc. So you know we're toggling between anyways, we can go down that road, but it's like, just hypocrisy upon hypocrisy. I mean, and you starting to see people wake up to a lot of things. So just back what I was saying, humanizing the situation. These are not animals.
You have the Nelson Mandela's of the world, you had the Jimmy Carter could go to the West Bank and Gaza or even the East Jerusalem and see what's happening now to the Palestinians, that would disagree with my use of the word apartheid, you had so many people who actually went down there, they sat with the human to human, they saw the suffering. And they concluded that this is a apartheid state. This is illegal, what they're doing. Even debatable. I mean, it's not debate only propaganda and and intentful. Delusion, I don't think it's how many real rights organizations have condemned. This is.
Even in Israel, there are also human rights organizations have condemned this. Right. So there's absolutely no about Yeah, that's pretty clear to everybody. How did he get around this? Just pretend it didn't happen. Just keep repeating the lie long enough until a lot of people think it's the truth. Yeah. And put political pressure and financial pressure were possible. And force a singular narrative, and push out and censor other narratives. We're seeing this happening in America. And now, if you don't care about Palestine, Israel, if you don't care about, you know, whatever's happening in the Middle East, that's, that's fine. You should still care about your own civil
rights, about your own country's values and ideals, you should still care about, for example, freedom of speech, and freedom of expression. And for you, as a citizen, to not be put in a sheep's position where your eyes are covered, there's wool over your eyes, and you can't see and they tell you whatever they want you to believe and you just bleed it out. That should concern you as a free, red blooded American citizen, who says Don't tread on me, you know, but instead, we're seeing a lot of people falling into the minion position. And they're not upset about the fact that their sense, but that America is censoring information, making it hard for them to understand what's going on in
the world, and that our politicians are basically placating what they think is the safer political position. It's not about morality, it's not about values. It's about my seat and how I can maintain it, and how I can run for office again.
And so becomes an oligarchy.
It doesn't become a democracy. Okay, so final words, what do we say to
our friends out there? They you know, recently before all this kicked off, you had many Christian Jews, many people who are seeing you know, what was happening to our children in the schools, the sexualization of kids.
man walked into the women's bathroom at McDonald's, my like, my daughter goes into those baths are up and no man needs to be understand, man, you are a man, you are afraid.
You are a man.
Like a man
who's ever seen like man, the Muslims on the front line, they're like the last hope standing, you know, against a lot of these things that are being pushed out there. The destruction of the family and all the other things, they're like, man, we need to ally we need to work together against all of the greater forces that are coming in. So they see they saw what the Muslim values were, they see we worship one and only one God. And now everything's kind of been derailed. We're back to square one, what what would you say to them? What would you say to them who are out there? And you know, to awakened the allies to the non Muslims or to the Muslims, to the to the humans out there to to the
non Muslims? Well, let me begin with the most simple mean, to Muslims. I say I said, Remember your own values, your own standards, and don't let anybody including anybody's injustice or evil cause you to reciprocate, or to lose sense of your standards and values out of anger, out of frustration, because then they win and you lose the real strength. The real win doesn't matter if you die, right? You win still, if you die on your values and standards, that's what a prophet did you see, did you see just and this is really important. This is good, because we will call it we will call out people who are Muslim our own into the community, we will reprimand them condemned them. I don't know if
there's AI you can't really trust a lot of things that are out there. You saw some of these videos and you're using it against the Muslims acting out maybe saying some things they shouldn't be saying, you know, they mean, whether it's true or false, I'm gonna duty I haven't seen those videos. But generally, this is the message I'm giving this is pretty clear, that we have to we have to be a moral people. And we have to have we have to let our standards be known. And they have to be consistent and we shouldn't be afraid. Or we shouldn't let any political situation or any situation of duress cause us to falter on these values. Okay, steadfast, consistent and persistent. Once we've
done that, once we can achieve that, and I think a lot of us are, then we can have some ground to stand on to call on others to the same level of standards.
But if you don't have that you have no leg to stand on. And I say that to everybody. Wherever you are, if you're Jewish, you have beautiful, you know, teachings of great moral standing. If you're Christian, you have the same if you're most of the world's great faiths, if not all, you have something you can stand on, find what that is, stand on it, but stand on it with genuine
selflessness. If you worship God, then remember God is in charge, not you. There's only two real religions in the world, if I may, there is the religion of God. And there's the religion of ego.
And we believe as Muslims, that Christianity, Judaism, Islam, the prophets that came through these movements, right, they're all of the same strain, they're all of God. Right? They all preach the same basic message of God. And then you have humans, including those that, that claim to be following these these prophets in these religions. So it's not, these are not two separate domains. They sort of intersect humans who have chosen to worship their ego even as they claim to be men of God or women of God. And so that's the separation for me. You have to check yourself, are you worshiping your ego? Are you following your ego, your whims and desires as the Quran calls it?
He says, Have you seen the one who follows the whim and desire the worship that right? Or do you worship? The objective God, and when you do, you can be objective about matters. You're not about tribalism, you're not about territorialism. You're not about you know, your own interests, your fair and you're balanced. And you're just God is just and that's what we aspire to justice.
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