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shahida

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Masha Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah what the Buddha

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tokita.

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Mohammed, Abu,

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also salovaara he was he was having he

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was he the

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title of this conference has stopped.

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And I'm actually, I'm humbled to be here today, there's a lot of history in this room.

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And

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I know that a lot of you may not recognize that history but for me to be here, speaking in front of some of you all is humbling in reality.

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I was asked to speak to you today because

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there's a segment in our community that is being criticized,

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verbally attacked,

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for going to certain messages, or teaching in those messages or otherwise, attending

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those messages with the claim.

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With the claim that this particular message is not this one that we're in, but the message that they are going to is not a selfie message.

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Or that the people who go to that message are the people who run that mesh and they mix with the people of innovation. They don't follow the scholars or whatever such claims.

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And this is viewed as a fitna by some people that needs to be addressed.

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And I think that it's important that we recognize what the word fitna means. And then we look back and we say is this in reality a fit no or not? may not need to be addressed, but is it is it in reality, a fixed

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fit enough from a linguistic perspective, it needs to be tested with something right?

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What lies with them says in the crime, whatever of lukewarmness shufti, one training fitness, we will test you will give you a fitness on both that which is failing that which is good. And that which is evil. So we shouldn't look at just the times when we're struggling or we're going through something that that is the only fixed

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even the good that comes the progress that may come as a fixed

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we'll be thankful to Allah subhana wa tada for that if you're not thankful for the good times, you fail the fitna, you failed that test, just as those who are not patient with the difficult times have also failed that test. And so if we look at

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what is happening today,

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and I apologize for the brothers that may have come from different places, and don't feel exactly what's happening here in the city of brotherly love that lacks a lot of that.

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But what will be argued by some people is that

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this in reality,

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it's not really a fitness.

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In fact,

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though it exists in cyberspace

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is not really a trial, all you have to do is stop trying to be accepted by other people.

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And once your heart is content

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with that relationship with the loves of Pamela Todd, then the rest becomes easy. It's not really a pfitzner in that sense. So they don't accept you on today's service. Or they speak about you negatively.

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Does that affect your ability to earn a living? Does that affect your ability to worship Allah, Allah tada to make hives to give the cat to pray?

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No. What does it affect? It hurts your feelings.

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And so

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they would argue for many of these people

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that fitness which you are subjected to and you don't have any control over it is there's too much that's outside of your hand that undue hardship. So what our brothers and sisters

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In Syria are dealing with that's,

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that's written for a man to have to be subject to watching his wife be raped.

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There's nothing you can do about it except for be killed.

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That's

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the A Masjid splitting. And you have no control over that.

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You know, because that's there's some ego problems amongst the leadership or whatever that's fitna for regular people, because they can't do anything about

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for a Muslim school to be closed,

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that you had your child in. And so your child knows nothing but those Islamic values and knows nothing but Muslim companions, and then that school gets closed, you have no other option, but to put your child in a public school.

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That's when, because these are things that, but somebody's talking about

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the law he, I mean, have we gotten that sensitive? And when did that happen to the point that we can't tolerate

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the fact that somebody says something about,

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or that somebody says something about the message that I go to

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send the point that it has affected someone that they're going to speak about me because I go to that message, and all it sounds like Middle School.

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So

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what is happening with a particular group

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who are using, I'm going to say, advanced bullying tactics.

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Because I

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decided myself, I just don't think that some of them

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came up with this by themselves.

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I think that this has been a tool that's been used to split our community.

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And we know that there are entities out there that don't want to see Islam grow.

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But these tactics that are being used, it's simply a matter of embracing the fact that you're not going to be accepted by everybody.

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And perhaps that does cause some people some inner turmoil. Maybe that's a fitna for some people that they won't be accepted by others. And I recognize that.

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But maybe that's not a bad Figment.

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Maybe this is a loss of Hannah Montana, showing you where your heart is. So that you will turn to Allah Subhana Allah to Allah for strength, and not be attached to his creation, and I want you to, I really want you to internalize that point. This may not be a bad thickness.

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Maybe this is what some people need for them to truly time to Allah subhana wa tada and not have their hearts attached to the creation. Because what happens for so many of us, and this is rampant now with the social media culture

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is that we have this inflated self worth,

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to the point that we take pictures of our chairs.

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And we track our lives so that everybody who are you so that everybody else supposed to care about what you do and how you did it. Such that and this is where the fitment comes in. When you're not getting as many likes as you used to get or as many views or somebody comments, negativity get destroyed inside.

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And this is a fitness. And so maybe this happens, so that allies will tell you and showing you to come back to him.

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And so because of this fitna that people have they request

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these type of lectures to hopefully find

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an answer to their problems, but many times the problem is inside of you. It's not going to come from someone else. It requires some self rectification the minute that you're comfortable in your own skin.

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And the minute that you push yourself to pray the last third of the night for all of you to fit in the fitting in the fitting that how many are standing up. In the last third of the night be praying as our Prophet Isaiah select was saying you still play pray alone.

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Or because even when you're sloppy and found out and even lately OSHA has been a bit iffy man can be here to tell you and the Takoma binary medical team I can

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indeed enough to legally when I'm happy with me. In the concert team, it's a shout out to stuffy actually a long time and

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said that this was the new app that the promise of lightning was summons to make when he would begin his night prayer or love.

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The Lord of jemalloc he and who is jabril,

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the angel that brought the ye revelation which brings life to the heart.

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What Mika Elan, even the lord of Mecca, he brings the rain which brings light to your body. What is starfield? He blows in that horn, and brings life after death, and resurrection.

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All of this focusing on on your life, Oh Allah,

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the rub of juparana Ian and he can be found to be

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the one who originated the heavens in the earth.

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And he will leave you with Shahad, the one who is all knowledgeable of that which is unseen in that what you see

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is indeed the most truly fulfilling, we've been unhappy with it,

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guide me to that which has been different over regarding the truth by your permission,

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and teach you guide you will to the straight path.

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So we can, what I'm saying here is that rectifying your relationship with a loss of Hannibal, which

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is first and foremost, the way to start the fitness.

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First and foremost, is that you rectify that situation with the loss of power, Tyler, it is at that point, that you'll be free.

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And you'll be liberated from

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the chains of your own power

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from the chains of your own desire to be accepted by men.

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Because that is an item

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that desire to be accepted by men is an item that lies within the heart and has to be broken.

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And this is totally, you know,

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because many of us

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every three seconds somebody's looking at

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you know, for many of us

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the lessons of tawheed stop that not worshipping a tree not worshiping Iraq, not worshiping a bush.

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And the reality is, is that as a as an apostle, he

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said he couldn't be omitting some yagoona

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that every oma has an idol that they worship

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was Sonam already in our theater.

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And that the idol of this Omen is the dinar and the beer him those gold and silver money. Well.

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Wealth is an idol. If people put the precedent if people give preference to wealth over the last panel without

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and so the point here is that

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the desire to be accepted by people is an item.

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Don't think that should is restricted to

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what some may view is the external worship of other than a loss of power to either somebody bowing to other than a law prostrating to other than a law making to walk around a grave or something like that, which still exists, and still exist in that issue.

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But we shouldn't think that sugar is restricted to that. In fact, it was seven Samia, I am allowed to add it said in one of the most important books written about the concept of the bad and servitude, the book known as a little movie. I think it's been translated three different translations into English.

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And I think that the I think that is called servitude to a lot something like that. But anyway, synchronous fam says that the the sense of shift that the

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that the base of all shifts, the root of all shift is being attached to other than a lot.

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That is the root of

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the point here being what

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is that?

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When we are attached to our last panel, Thailand, when we are truly Miss slaves, then as when we become liberated.

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And many of you have heard the statement of

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a man shape of the rock member of NASA said you don't know

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data. And it's an important statement. I've mentioned it in other lectures. But I think we again, that these are concepts that we need to internalize before we move forward into looking at some of the details.

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He says women album, you provide me that from the greatest virtues have told me and who you have to let them know.

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That is a freeze, it liberates the slave.

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Meaning the person, the Muslim, who actualizes this to heat, it liberates him from servitude and bondage to the creation, what I look at him and be attached to them, while hopefully him what I get in him and fearing them and hoping in them when I'm really educating him, and doing things to please them.

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One that Nika who will is so happy, he was shovelful, Lally. And this is real honor.

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And the pinnacle of dignity, that a person is a slave of Allah.

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And it will pay him, but he will love China.

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He says here and I, again, I just want you to be patient, because I don't think that these kind of talks we can just open going straight into the topic this fit in and this was said that about that when,

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without first laying some groundwork, to what this really means in a large scope of things. Because it's time that we mature as a community. It's time that we recognize that the little stuff that we fight about, is really nothing in the grand scheme of things and what's really happening.

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And not to forget where we are.

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And not to forget that we constitute less than 2% of the population of this country that we live in.

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And that our contribution to society as a whole is viewed as negligible by other than us.

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And therefore eliminating them is not really a big deal.

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And we need to be conscious of where we are and what's really happening. So get back to him and I'll pay him but he will love that it says about the idols of the hearts and the fact that we need to break those items the same way that the idols of the Kaaba were broken

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your poodle Rahim Allah tada

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there has to be another way

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it's open we're going in and outs close we're going in and out.

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Either we switch over this way

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No, no, you have to switch the focus because it's

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like

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it says Rahim Allah.

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So he do what Tibetan Hola.

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Then

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a motorbike. Then that so he and following your desires

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are polar opposites.

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And so he and following your desires are polar opposites. But he knows Sonam because desires are an idol.

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Your desire is an idol. We'll equally add in Sun and Moon. We can be here we have our

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and every person has in his heart an idol.

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To the extent that he has desires, that has desires that go against what aligns with his command,

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or even a man Verizon luvuvhu level, b castleville osland. were embedded in the what why shanika and Allah

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as sent His messengers

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to destroy the items to break the idols and to worship Him alone

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when they live in Tana Castle snam, and we just said that we're talking a slam and let you feel calm. And it is not a law's intent

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that the

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IOC there are more just said that is that they have a form a physical form are destroyed while leaving the idols in the heart untouched.

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So

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to sum that point,

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We need to recognize first and foremost

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what fitna really is, and then put this in the large scale of things.

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And then ask ourselves, is this really fitting

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for us? Or is it that I want to be accepted

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and if it's the latter,

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you got to get rid of that.

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You have to get rid of that desire because it's an item

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and you have to break in order that should be a real way to worship Allah subhanho wa tada worship Him alone. That being said, I messaged us a lot of it was some of them

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has informed us that is going to be

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different in his own mind.

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This is part of his part of the deal of his prophecy, part of the evidence that he was brought to the lighting setup. So we know from the Hadith,

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in this area for the love of time animals said that the messenger sallallahu wasallam, gave them a moving speech one day and they say almost a double Alliance like this is a farewell speech, so give us some advice.

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So the province of Aleppo it was tell them gave them some advice and from that advice was window management.

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And the those of you who live amongst me

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those who live

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from this oma

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amongst you are

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in no way I mean kokanee the process of just talking to his campaigns for sale after that and KPI he is going to see different

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with the profit I decide to save the Noctis leave them talking about the fact that there's going to be different he taught them the way to handle that different and what we're supposed to do when we see that different and so the prophets of Allah I deal with Southern said Friday can be something that he was some the typical of Alba Dena might be eaten back. So old facts, and here to my son, and the Sunnah of the right, be guided, Columbus will come back.

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Lie, though this may seem like it's simple.

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Like, in other words, it's simple. And we could just say, yeah, we follow the Sunnah. And that's what's what we find so many people that that's not really the reality of what they're doing. Because you can listen to lecture after lecture and class after class. And what you're hearing is the shape and the shape, the shape, and the shape.

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Now, Allah azza wa jal sent

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His messenger some a lot while he was sending them saying, this is the way that these tests have been interpreted by the companions of the message of a lie, they have a lot to say, and the Tabby and those who found them.

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That's not what we're hearing. And so there is a deficiency, and truly sticking to the Sunnah of the prophet is a lackluster lamb in these differences. In fact, it could be considered to be one of the root problems of this different

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is that

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we don't really know what evidence is

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that I don't again, you know, we don't want to go too deep into because these, where we how we got to where we are today didn't happen overnight. It's not going to be solved in one talk. But hopefully, there'll be enough, you know, points that you can take to ask yourself the questions that you need to ask yourself moving forward. You know, so

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if we look at many of the claims that are made, those claims are not talking about against certain people, masjids organizations or otherwise, they're not built on solid evidence. And that's because many of those who are making the claims simply either don't know or pretend not to know

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what constitutes evidence.

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And that is because of a lack of study.

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And, again, I don't want to go into a lot of a lot of detail but will soon just so that we understand. It's what they translate as source methodology.

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covers three broad branches. And I do want you to walk away understanding this because a lot of times all we we don't really understand like, anybody here. Is there anyone here? Who's an engineer anyway?

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The term

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mathematician

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though

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there are different branches of math, right? I mean, if somebody says that they are a, that they studied math, well, does that mean arithmetic and they stopped? Doesn't mean algebra, trigonometry, geometry, calculus, I mean, where did you Where did you go with that study? In the various branches of it, right? Similarly, if you study any, any profession, or any

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non professional either work, or any science, or any subject, there are branches to that subject, right. So also a filter is a branch of Islam, that has to be studied by anybody who wants to interpret texts. And so it covers three main branches. The first is answering the question, what is evidence? What is evidence? I'm going to ask you, what's evidence in Islam? What constitutes evidence?

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Listen, there is a rhyme to the reason. Because a lot of times, like I said, what you hear is people say, Well, this is the this is the son of the man and because even though MOBOTIX said,

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because he may and Malik did, because this one did that. And that makes it a slam.

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Right?

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I don't want you to deal with the heat for right now.

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I'm not talking about the

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the heat of the room. I'm talking deal with the heat. What's this? What's evidence even Muslim law yet?

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Okay, so this brother says that evidence in Islam is a loss in his messages in the Sahaba said, okay, anybody else? Yes.

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Okay, so it's, it's a law says his messenger says, and it is the consensus of the selection of his own mother pious predecessors by anybody else.

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Anybody else want to take a stab at what?

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The others? Yeah, Muslim.

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How do you

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how do you know how to practice your deed?

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Okay.

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I'm not gonna answer that question. except to say that that is correct. That is part of evidence. The Quran, Sunnah of the prophet Isaiah select will say, and the consensus of the scholars, as far as we'll call a Sahaba, two ladies have been Tim Lee like like he never said me. So I think that the Sahaba said, not the Sahabi said, because he managed Shafi who actually made that thing

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called the love of karma sutra. We'll call this a habit release him in 10 weeks. That that knowledge is a law said his messenger said the Sahaba said he never Shafi himself. I did not view any one statement of this hobby of the any once a hobby to be evidenced in a slim,

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email Akhmed my whole life.

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Took a different opinion of that. But the point here is that the study of soul fit does what? First and foremost, like I said, it covers three branches. The first is defining evidence. You You can't go. I know many of you have been in a courtroom for for one reason or another. No, I'm not saying in a bad way. Maybe. Maybe we're supporting somebody.

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Have you ever heard of inadmissible evidence? Oh, now we all know everything.

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Okay.

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inadmissible evidence Why?

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Either was tainted, collected the wrong way? Something went wrong with it where it cannot be used as evidence in that court.

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Or somebody might say some strike that because it's not evidence in the first place. It doesn't serve us and that person may think they have a thorough case.

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I'm going to sue you for everything you got. Okay. Let's see how that works out.

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And they don't have enough evidence to prove their point. Evidence is important. Whenever you

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To prove a point, so same thing and then, but you have to be able to identify what that evidence is. Otherwise, you may be building your whole case on something. And it's not evidence. He's just one. Why is he why I saw him in a picture with so and so and so really?

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also have a picture with Obama.

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That makes me want a Kaffir. I mean, at the end of the day, like, really, what does that even mean?

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That that's evidence.

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So, from an Islamic standpoint,

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we have to take a step back and say, Okay, this study is very important.

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What constitutes evidence is, for example, and anomalous reading of the Quran, considered to be evidence? Can it be used? Because, you know, there's various modes of recitation?

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various people, and some of them are what are known as shed?

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Can that be used for Tafseer? is a heartbeat that is by evidence in Islam? What if there is nothing else?

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What if there's no other text on that particular point? Should we use a copy that has died over ps?

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Or not?

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Should we use a hyginus die over the statement of a Sahabi?

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Or not? Do we consider the AMA love Allah Medina, their actions and their customs and their norms? After the province of light is some do we consider that to be evidence of nightmare? Malik? Did

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you understand what is evidence in Islam?

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And I'm not saying that every single one of you has to study that. But what I am saying is that the people who make claims have to know that

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and they have to be able to present that

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the the second branch of busua

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is located via to the city defendants. And then once you have identified whatever this is, how do you extract rulings from that evidence? What are the broad principles that are used to extract rulings from evidence? So for example,

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somebody recognizes that the Hadith of the Prophet sallallahu wasallam is evidence.

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Some there's evidence and it's men.

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And then they say that the Prophet is allowed to Sudan.

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never prayed more

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than 11 records for the night.

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Okay.

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So we've identified that soon as evidence. And now we have a specific piece of evidence, how do we extract the ruling from that someone may come now. And based on that, it will say, therefore, it is haram to pray more than 11 Records.

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And anybody that prays more than 11 records for the night prayer time, or otherwise is better.

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pump the brakes.

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Slow down. Are there other ahaadeeth on the same subject, because part of going what part of extracting those rulings is that you combine between the evidence is that you look at all of them and then

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and then you extract rulings, we'll get beyond that the third branch, the third branch of school and the last, the third and last branch is have a muslimeen everything related to the one who extracts the evidence from the rulings and that person is generally called a multi person who's generally call them often. So everything related to the MFI and FX one. And the most ft that is the one who asked the question and tough lead that is to follow without knowing that evidence. All of that comes under the subject of assuming, unfortunately, as a people,

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we have not been taught that.

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And Allah subhanho wa Taala knows best, but as the Arab Saint vappu shade, linearity, the one who does not have cannot give.

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And so that could be because the people who sit in front of you do not have and so they can't give it to you.

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And it could be because they don't want you to know that. Because if you know you're going to question

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and knowledge has been used historically and contemporary contemporary times as a tool of oppression.

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I need to be in control of you. I don't want you to I don't want you to get to my level.

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I lose control. I can't control the selector box anymore.

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I don't stay down anymore. So I can't get more than one white because there's nothing that's

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outstanding about

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the motives of many.

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But keeping people ignorant systematically is not from Islam.

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And we have to search for and seek to be uplifted through

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and through those people who will teach us the deen of Allah subhana wa tada so that we can make intelligent decisions so that we can worship the last panel metalla better.

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So that we're able to answer those questions when we're asked by loss of habitat in the Hereafter, because it's nothing you're going to say or do except that you will be asked by monks.

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So

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when it comes to the topic at hand,

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and we talked about the fitness, if you will, that currently exists, boycotting other Muslims, abandoning Muslims and not mixing with certain people, and backbiting them, etc, claiming that it is permissible,

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then a lot of times, often, there really is no evidence, there really is no evidence for the position that has been taken, other than the shape said, and the shape went on to say.

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And even then a lot of times as some general,

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you know, issue that one of the machines is dealing with it not even specific to that particular person or organization or,

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and even if it was,

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then just like any other issue.

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A person who has the ability to look at evidence is going to ask the shape. What is the and I'm not saying that they're going to,

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you know, do it in a disrespectful way. But they're gonna want to know what the evidence is for that statement that is being made of that position is being taken, just like you would if it was a issue related to salado as a cat or anything else. So what is the evidence that has led you to, to this particular conclusion. And a, no doubt a layman can be somebody who has studied those details on the stand, they can accept the facts were of a Mufti without evidence, they can do that. But does that mean that everybody else also has to accept that?

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That everybody else, if they don't accept that, that's what that they stand in front of a loss of hands that is being sinful, because that's what you're saying, if you say you have to accept that statement.

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That if that person does not accept that statement, and they stand in front of allies in a job that is sinful, we really we have to start thinking about what we're saying, and not just keep repeating these slogans. And so again,

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what we have is not enough emphasis on the Quran and the center.

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And this particular notion that we are, you know, so called, because what they're going to say is no, this is the message of the seller, it needs his own series, it needs his own series of lectures or classes to clearly define what it means when you say that something is in fact, the methodology of the sub.

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And that's why I think that what that brother said, back there was so important when he said at the age

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of the solid, the consensus of the seller, because this is where many of the problems stem from that you have, you know, these

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people who will take one statement or one position that was made by a tanvi, or one of the early scholars of Islam, and then that becomes the whole match for the whole methodology of the setup and that that's not correct.

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So

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what we find is that they'll say

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that this person is a deviant.

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that that person is a deviant. and by extension, anybody that associates with this one or that one is also not clear.

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So you can't mix with him. And then if you do,

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then you also have problems and issues. Those are never defined by the way. He has issues

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But once you see how

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it goes to the point that anybody who disagrees with their particular opinion about somebody,

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then that person also is not only suspected, but he also becomes a DB

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guilty by association

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and Watson and so what happens is, and this became a phenomenon after the death of some of the larger contemporary or the major contemporary scholars like shaker Baz Chico Vandy, shakers. They mean Elia hummable? Yeah, it became a lot more prevalent, but it was even becoming in the late 90s, it started becoming an issue that people were using the term Sullivan, to create their own group,

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not as a means of interpreting text,

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which is, what we're talking about when we talk about a holistic methodology towards Islam is that we have texts.

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But like with any other texts, that serves as your basis for your legal system for your doctrine for your beliefs,

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texts have to be interpreted.

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And so interpreting them in light of the way that they were interpreted by the seller, which is a broad term that, you know, means the Sahaba and Italian and those who follow their way, instead of that know we created or a separate group was created that had its own, you know, its own set of scholars that if you didn't venerate them, and revered them,

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if you said that one of them could possibly make a mistake,

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as if they were messengers of Allah.

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And so that existed and I want I want you to listen to when she gives me a lie of Hmong, but we know that 18 years ago, but he still addressed the reality of, of this, that some people were using cell A via

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to form their own his

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to form their own part. So let us listen.

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All right, so

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this is about to get tricky. This is about to get trickier. Okay, there we go. So stick with me, and I'm allowed to and I was asked that just bear with me, it's three minutes long.

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Okay, so yeah, smarter than in technology All right. So, they may know him well lozada he was asked, we would like to know what sulla via as a methodology entails, is it okay to ascribe to it? Should we review those who do not ascribe to it? Or those who do not call themselves Salafi or something similar to

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understand the question? Okay, so the question is saying what is it okay to call yourself selfie? What is salvia What is this as a methodology?

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So scholarship, Rahim Allah Allah, He says, and then he went on to say, right, like, so he says, that Sophia is following the methodology of the Prophet himself. So along the line he was sending him and his Sahaba because they are the ones who sell a boom that they are the ones who preceded us, right, because select means to proceed. So they're the ones who preceded us and came before us, therefore following them, following them in their way is suburbia.

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Welcome

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He says as we're taking suburbia as a specific methodology, whereby a person uses it to distinguish himself or to distinguish his group, and then declares anyone, any other Muslim with whom he differs as being a deviant.

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Even though that person may have the truth with him,

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and that he trusts he treats Sellafield as a his be methodology is what he says, as a partisan methodology. And his be that word His is the same distinct Democrats and Republicans, right? You have parts. And they don't get along simply because the Democrats and Republicans said shut the government down. So that people get mad when the republicans shut the government down. So people get mad, just because they they're in this party, they're gonna stand again. Right. So it says and they treat Southern fear as a his beat methodology that this without a doubt is contrary to Southern via

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he says that all of the sudden,

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all of them encouraged us to be together and agreement and harmony based on the book of Allah and the suit of his messages, some allottee

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they did not declare those who are different with them based on tech wheel, that is interpretation, though that may be a faulty interpretation, they did not consider this person to be a DBA. Now, how does that look at and I really think that we need to,

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because there are other people that the minute that you default with them, they consider you to be that easy.

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He says except for the issues of athletes, because they view that the one who difference with them and

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and they viewed this person to be a strength. Now the shape is actually going to clarify that even further. As he as he goes on, we got two minutes left.

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He says as for issues of practical matters, like fifth and they were a lot more lenient regarding leads, He then said, however, some who follow sulla via in our time that is they claimed that their salaries and our time and this was shaken thinking in the late 90s, saying this, he says they declare anyone who disagrees with them to be a deviant.

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Even though the truth might be wisdom,

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some of them

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as in his

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methodology of others, describe themselves to Islam.

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And this is

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so possible to agree with Elena.

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And he says it should be said to them, look at the men hedge of the Southern look at their tolerance when it comes to issues

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in which people different with them, though those issues may be issues of HD head.

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And when they when the scholars use that term issues of SDN that they're talking about, are those issues which there is not a definitive evidence pointing to one direction or another.

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And so there's no definitive evidence like if there's it's not there's no HDA

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If there is an ayah, or there's a Hadith of the Prophet Alayhi, salaatu wa Salaam, but there are other IDs, which may be interpreted differently then that can be considered to be an area of SDN. And so they didn't consider each other to be deviant because of that, because of them. Now, to pause for a second, what is a lot of this fitness? About?

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What is it? What is it about? It's about so and so, oh, he shares a platform with this person, you're going to start out, he mixes with these type of people.

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As if these particular issues are not issues of SDN,

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as if there is the definitive evidence

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that says that you can't go to that mentioned and call those people. So the sooner you can teach, the sooner that master because there's a man, you know, for example, may be a person of bid out, which is another issue that requires a lot of questions before we get there. The point is that these are not clear cut, and dry when it relates to specifics. And so they mean, a lot of Hmong, and saying that we need to really look back, we really look at what the main has of the salad was, as it relates to their tolerance, especially in issues that there was valid HDA

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What's

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up?

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Like so So to conclude the same

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data set that the setup even different and some major issues and some of those issues were even theological issues? Did the Prophet sallahu wa Salaam see his Lord, that is Solomon alive or not? What is it that is waiting on yo piano? Is it the scrolls? Is it the person himself? Is it? Is it his deeds that are waiting? Right? These are issues that are theological, they are after, but they are different, and they did not differ in their approach. And that's something that's important to understand their manager is not different. What they deem to be evidence was not different, but an interpretation of some of that evidence they did different. He said they differ in a lot of issues,

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whether it was related to marriage inheritance laws or so. Okay. He says, and despite this, they did not declare one another to be deviant they did declare each other to be deviance because of that. He says so severe. If you're talking about you're referring to a specific his, with distinguishing features, and they declare others who disagree with them to be devious that they have nothing at all to do with Sellafield this is what he says is not my words.

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He then says seldovia is following the Salafi methodology with regards to al Qaeda and speech and actions in the heart in harmony and the mutual love and compassion that they share for one another, as our messenger sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said the example of the believers in their mutual love mercy and sympathy, sympathy for one another is like that of a body. When any limb aches when any part of the body aches, the rest of the body reacts with sleeplessness and fever. If you had an ever toothache that's right there, the slow part of your body that's right there. And that a

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You can't go to sleep,

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you your whole body gets a fever. This is the example of the believers when part of them are facing difficulty. This is the reaction of the rest of the believers. And so we see here that she can see me in a lie on him, and did what he said, with a hadith from the Sunnah of the prophet Isaiah select the Select because when we differ, we need to go back to the sooner by messenger on a selective cinema, we need to adhere to it. And so I'm going to read

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as we conclude the light either a number of a hadith of our messenger, sallAllahu, wasallam, and some iron from the Brian, just so that we can look at how the Muslims are supposed to be behaving with one another. Because somewhere, we lost the black, somewhere down the line. Somewhere, we started frowning at other Muslims when we see them, because I don't know what he's on.

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I don't know what he's on. So I'm not I'm not gonna I'm not gonna smile at him yet. Maybe I don't give him some names, because I saw him given some names and somebody who I don't give slams to.

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I'm gonna put pressure on this brother to divorce his

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wife, why? For his wife to divorce him because she celebrated. He's not she shouldn't be in the house with him.

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Now, this stuff is real. And I, you know, I don't I don't like to mention specifics.

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But I think this time, because some people think this stuff is exaggerated.

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Some people think this is an exaggeration.

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It was a situation. That was

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it was going around social media,

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about a brother, whose wife

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would not sleep in the same room with him.

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Because he wouldn't declare a specific person to be among

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the magic. He's a layman. He's not people who studied Islam, they went overseas and no, for two years, for two years,

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she would not sleep with him.

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Some of his children would not give him some names.

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Why? Because he wouldn't declare a certain person to be an innovator. Now mind you, declaring somebody to be an innovator, you need to be qualified for that. There's a certain system of qualification before you just do that.

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So I remember when it was circulating in social media, and I was like, that sounds like a stretch to me. So brother reached out to me. And he said, We need some of the scholars to deal with this. Because I know who the person is. And I and this brother that reached out to me, he's a student of knowledge. He graduated from the coffee Paddy.

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And in Medina, and I know him very well. And I was like, You sure you know the person directly? And like you were afforded me something? And he said, Not another person directly.

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I said to panelo. So I called up, Danny, I'll just put it like this. I called them, some of them. And they said, Nah, that's not even real.

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He says not real. They said, that's something that was made up

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by so and so in Jordan,

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so that his followers can shine a bad light on some of the scholars here in Saudi Arabia.

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Okay.

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I'll take whatever you say. I'm backing off for that issue, because I just didn't want to get involved anymore. told the brother Listen, I caught some of the mistakes. This is what they said. I'm not. That's as much as I can do. I believe you. There's nothing else we can do.

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So

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one day, it was a Friday.

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And I was walking to the profit space.

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And I get a phone call 11 o'clock in the morning.

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says

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you remember that situation about a year ago?

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A woman wouldn't stay in the same room with a husband for a year.

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So yeah, he said

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their daughter

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paid for them to make oma

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so that they could sit with some of the people have knowledge and rectify the situation for two years now. They're here in Medina, can you do anything? The brother wasn't even Dean anymore he graduated he was gone. says that anything you can do for them? Anything you can do.

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And at that point, I was like can analyze actually here so

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there's no way you can say it's not really right.

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So I called up one of the machine and I said

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Listen, I have a very important situation. He was one of the ones I call from before.

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And so I couldn't tell him what it was about. Because he'll be like, Nah, it's not real.

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So I said,

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Listen, I have a very, very important situation is as close to life and death as I can think of when in the scheme of things I really need to see. said, Okay, can I come back after? After Jim? I said, No, come come back.

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So we can have more time. So okay, I didn't tell him anybody who's coming, but came with the brother

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and his wife, and their daughter.

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And we sat with the sheep for two hours.

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And the sheep couldn't believe it. When he first heard it. He did not believe that it was right, another brother that was translated from the English to Arabic, just so what not be on me. That wasn't some story that I made up.

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And

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the woman was there

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admitting to the fact that for two years

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she would not sleep with her husband.

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And his brother was patient for two years for his kids, all because he wouldn't declare somebody to be an innovator. You see what that's fit.

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That's real.

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And so some had a lot. Again, you know, the sheriff did a very nice

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talk about that particular topic. A lot of it was private, the partner was not private, we record

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Park, it was not private, but she gave us permission to record it.

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So that it could serve as a proof later on down the line that night, the next night. So the shake his advice to them was to start a new page and get their own hotel room and to make things right.

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The next day, the brother call, and he said, he said some words that that stayed till today. He said

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it was he said when we left. When we left that day, it was like a magic spell had been lifted. Like somebody was affected by magic in the spell was lifted.

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And all I can think of was the statement of the profit idea. Select was sent in in a minute, Danny, let's say hello, in the from speech is magic.

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She was mesmerized by somebody's speech, to the point that it became like a spell. And then she believed that her husband was a deviant, because he wouldn't declare somebody else to be an enemy.

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How we got to that topic, I had no intention of talking about that.

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But the issue, the issue is

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the importance of how we deal with other Muslims. How we deal with other Muslims because all of these things that we're talking about, yet still talking about a Muslim at the end of the day that you're supposed to be built. So we're gonna look at some of the

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I had either the profit idea salatu salam, all of you know the statement of Allah subhanaw taala hitting them and moving

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it

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to believers are but rocks

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are messenger sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said as it comes with it

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and this was going to show that this is one of the last speeches that the Prophet is selected with Sam gate I'm not stopping say

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we can delay the dam for Isha

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the profit is selected as Sam said.

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How am i equal

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on kahoka to

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be better? Listen listen to what our message our problems like some say you're gonna see different when we differ what's supposed to happen. Go back to his suddenness stick to the Sunnah of the Prophet so the Lord it was Solomon the son of the writing guy.

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The practice of law it was some saying you that your blood

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that is your lives.

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And your wealth and your honor are sacred to one another, Your Honor, are sacred to one another. Like the sanctity of this place that we are in on this day in this month in this tech.

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What what what is more holy than Mecca.

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What is more,

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the month of

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the hedger which is a sharp one is a sacred month.

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On that day, the prophets like Selim said that is the sanctity that is the sacredness of your, your blood

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and your wealth and your honor.

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You can't just defame another Muslim and think it's okay. It's not okay.

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It's not okay. The rule is no. defaming a Muslim backbiting a Muslim is when there is a necessity that's an exception to the rule. It's not double we taught we were taught the opposite. He's talking about everybody until you know when he's on that even me anyway

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Sahih Muslim

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the authority of Abu Ghraib on China and

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he said that the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said Muslim, Apple was

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a Muslim is the brother of another Muslim lie of legal? Well, I have Lulu while

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he does not wrong him or press him. He does not forsake him. What does that mean? You don't forsake him? That mean not to forsake a Muslim?

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Right? You don't turn your back on a Muslim when a Muslim needs help you help them. Now your

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one eye people and he does not belittle another Muslim You don't look down on other Muslims.

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That's arrogance

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is arrogance. That's a quality that a believer should never have. You have more knowledge. So you look down you have more wealth, you have status, you know,

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if a Muslim non Muslim is the believer of another, if one is the brother of another Muslim, and then the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said it one how hoonah the same IV tough was here. Sr heart says where it stems from and he pointed to his chest three times. He hasn't been beat him in a shop and yet people are home Muslim. It is enough to be considered evil that he knew Muslim belittles another Muslim

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common Muslim and Muslim we have our demo bonuses The problem is it seems that every Muslim for another Muslim is sacred is like that is his blood is well in his art by I'm not

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gonna just stick with color lights and light it was sell them for the next few minutes.

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Is it Hey,

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man in the machine, while the alongside Andrew the province of the law it was so upsetting you just heard this he mentioned buying chickens a meat

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eater while he

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was off homing him without to be emotional just that the example of the believers and their mutual loving compassion and sympathy for one another is like that if the

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accordion Muslim have also married you know the authority of Abu Salah shrine, you know the local tiger and know that the prophets of lightning with some sort of, you know, little mini kelburn again, you should bow to whom Baba that the book that the believer to another believer is like a building one part supports the others and there's some narration of a southern chef but the main unsavoury went like this with his fingers to show you this is the way that the believers are

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are messengers some of it was sort of sending the same person the authority of every one of the alongside the annual Prophet sallallahu wasallam sin tener una agenda

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had to me No, you will not enter gender until you believe what I took me to had to have going you don't really believe until you have mutual love for one another

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until you have mutual love for the rest of the believers allow

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me that file to move to have them should I not point you to something that if you do it, you will love one another. f Xu Salama, Rainer calm spread this lands amongst each other.

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How do we get to a point

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where we believe that the rule is you don't give Samantha to you know when he's on where did that come from?

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Because it clearly is not coming from the messenger. So it was some and that's not to negate the fact that yes, the prophet is allowed to sit amet his companions boycotted.

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Three of the campaign's that happened.

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That didn't happen because of the fact that they stayed behind in the Battle of two booth.

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that that happened. And that sets precedence for the Muslims as a whole to abandon some of the Muslims when there is a unexpected benefit that was similar to the situation that could prophesied some of these campaigns when but again, that's not the rule. You see, because what happens is we have broad speech from the private side, some of those that are rules. And then we have incidents that happen the show us how to behave in certain situations. Those become the exception to the rule of

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Prophet solo. It was some said they had either someone on the low side and that was a mob in the Muslim Yes, he did on the late Mr. Jabba

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the two that you make for your brother when he's not around, is answered. How many of us make do our brothers? Really? Or is it that?

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Do you know and this is for everybody to just kind of take a step back?

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Do you make as much to ask for your brothers as you speak about them as you backbite them?

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It's not a difficult question. What do you do more backbite other Muslims or make dua for other Muslims? The Prophet sallallahu wasallam said there was a lovely Muslim Yeah, he belonged to Mr. Jabba that is accepted in the ice medical work Hello, at his head, right that there is an angel

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couldna Medallia he behaved calling America more creepy. me know what I can be visited every time he makes time for his brother. That angel that has been appointed to him says me he says me and for you.

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Is something similar for you. You have that which is like

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Korean Muslim narrative of the authority of in Oman or the alongside and that the profit so why do some segment canopy Hagit tip can allow me Hagerty whoever is in serving the needs of his brother that aligns with Joe will serve his needs

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woman, Muslim unquote button for the long run button and quarterback yo pm OPM and whatever relieves a Muslim of some of the difficulty that he's dealing with a law will relieve one of his difficulties on your own piano when I set it up Muslim men and whoever conceals the faults of a Muslim in one interpretation sets on a Hello, yo PM, Allah will conceal his faults on yo Mel pm on the Day of Resurrection. And I mean, I can keep going on and on because I

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because

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this is the Sunnah of our Prophet Alayhi, salaatu wa Salaam, this is how we are supposed to be dealing with each other as Muslims. But instead we've taken the exceptions to the rules and we made them the rules. And then the rules get thrown out the window.

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And so

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to

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to wrap it up,

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wrap it up is getting late and mophie still has has its own

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LAMP stack.

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In spite of this clear evidence, in spite of that, you know, people are ready to boycott at the drop of a dime, warn against the rebound their brothers in Islam.

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For the most people have claims.

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And I'm just going to deal with one of them. Because it's the one that

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you know, every every other you know, every year or so they come up with a new slogan. And so the slogan for this year is he mixes with the people of

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Nisha, well, that was from before

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he shares a platform with the zoo fees and the tech theories and

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and so this is the type of this is the new way that you know, they found to to,

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you know, warn against people if you will.

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And I just want to show how this is is thrown out there without real thought.

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And so when someone says this, just follow, follow the pattern real quick and then we'll wrap it up and so it won't take long.

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When someone says that this person you can't take from him, you shouldn't go to that basket. Why? Because he misses with the people.

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So we have a lot of we need to unpack that statement.

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unpack that. Fight. He makes us with the people of

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who

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They're those people that he's mixed in with, to beat people up.

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You, your friend, your shed,

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who wasn't exactly that declared that particular person, that particular group to be from Ireland? And is that person who made that ruling qualify to make the ruling? Even if it is your shape? What did he base his ruling on? Is it something you came and stacked the deck

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and said chef, so and so says A, B, C, and D,

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in the shape made a ruling based off of what you said? Or does in fact, you say, actually have his own way of knowing that the Shakespeare English for example, you heard with the person sitting up, see, because these things are important to understand. How did that ruling get made? And if it was made by you, so and so? Are you qualified to make that ruling? And whatever it is, do you ask for that ruling? Is there evidence sufficient to make the claim as we talked about, or is it inadmissible?

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Are there other qualified people who agree with that? Or do in fact, people disagree?

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You understand all of that needs to be really understood before we can say so and so

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mixes with the people a bit. That's just that one point that you've declared that person to me from the people.

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The next question,

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what is meant by mixing here?

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What exactly do you mean by they were at you saw him at a wedding together? Somebody snapped the photo? And they put it up? inside? See, I know it. I know, he mixes with the people are better?

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Or was it a seminar that they attended together?

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And they spoke at different times, or an academic institution that employs them both, for example,

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or a Masjid that employs them both, or a school, for example, that employs them all. If that's the case, then he or she works at an institution where he believes that other people that work at that institution,

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and he still works there, he still gets his bread and butter from him. And that's okay.

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But if somebody here does it, then it's not okay.

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Danny, what what standard are we using? What standard? Are we using to declare that that is mixing and that is not mixing. You might be a chaplain at a at a prison. So you, you Muslim chaplain, have to provide space for the worshipers of Satan so that they can worship safe, you got to provide that space as a chaplain. But yeah, you can go out, you criticize other people for mixing What?

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What? What standard? Are we using it? Okay.

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Next,

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what evidence do you have? And we talked about evidence for a while? What evidence can you produce that? Once we say, okay, in reality, this person is mixing whatever that means. And that that person is in fact, from island? Whatever it is, do you have to support your claim that it is impermissible for him under the circumstances to mix with?

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Under those circumstances, because, again, these are not, you know, cookie cutter, you don't have cookie cutter answers or responses for this stuff.

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Same thing goes for sharing the platform and that

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that terminology that's used, does that mean that you were happened to be on the same flyer with somebody, or that you spoke at a place and then the person that

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came after you spoke a week later, and they happen to put you on a website together? Something like that? Now, you know, they consider this to be sharing a platform so many times, these questions are not considered Not to mention, and they're not even considered.

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And if they weren't considered, they wouldn't, in general have answers to them. And so you have these empty slogans that go around, and people buy one.

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Because they get scared.

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They bite on it because they're scared. Why? Because there's a deficiency until he, honestly, because they want to be accepted by men. And that is an idol. Again, that has to be broken. We look back.

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And we have to recognize, and this is in conclusion

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that these issues that we're talking about are bigger than the people who are dealing with it. And that's just the reality of the beginning.

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The issues that go back to what this deal revolves around it is the role of the media.

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As a series, he says in his co vide is maxims of Islam, a sharing layer more elaborate my my

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colleagues to alleging that the Eliza job is messenger, they do not command us to do anything except that it's Muslim that its benefit is either pure or it is overwhelmingly beneficial. While I enhance c'est la, vie myself to Holly so Raj, and that they don't prohibit anything except that its detriment is either pure, or or that thing is overwhelmingly detrimental. And to put it in the form of poetry as as soon as he says that Dino medneo. And a masala heat feature was definitely the capacity that this day is maddening. It is built upon Muslim.

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The gel we had acquiring benefits,

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and pushing away detriments and to know that, and this is why and this is why the reason why I brought this up to know that

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a person has to have and it's about a specific situation to be able to say for example, somebody might come up and say, is it permissible for me to put my child in public school?

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You can't answer that question. Without knowing more about that person. What public schools are you talking about? What city are we talking about? There are some public schools in some cities where 60% of the children are Muslim.

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And the only other option is to to homeschool. And that's not an option for them. But how do you know that? You know that because you know the situation of the person who's asking you the question. And so when we start talking about what is beneficial and what is detrimental, it requires both knowledge of Islam

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and knowledge of how

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the condition of the one was asking you that question. And so the dynamics of that message that somebody is claiming this from island, or sharing a platform with somebody who they claim as a Sufi, the dynamics of that whole situation needs to be known

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before we give a specific ruling about its permissibility or impermissibility, or is it advisable or not advisable.

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And this is why the issue again, is bigger than this, this shade said and the shape went on to say.

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I hope that

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what has been presented

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is clear.

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I tried to take my time with it.

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So that it would be clear and if you walk away with nothing

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but the beginning of what we discussed, which is the importance of rectifying our relationship with the last panel with the island,

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eradicating fitna

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and the importance of adhering to the Sunnah of our messengers, so a lot of it was seldom in his teachings. And that's sufficient to show that that's sufficient for us to get the land to take the next step as a community and to mature as a community and get beyond a lot of this childish behavior that we're faced with a long, long time.

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Along with the handy shut on their bed and stuff