Direct Access #08 – Interview with a Haaji – Hajj 1442AH-2021
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Bismillah R Rahman Al Rahim al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil alameen wa Salatu was Salam ala rasulillah ala alihi wa sahbihi wa seldom at the Sleeman kathira illa. Yama Deen a my bad rubbish. rodri is really angry while Nakata tambien Lisa Annie Yakubu Kohli. We begin by praising Allah subhanho wa Taala. After seeking blessings and starting in his name, we praise Allah subhanho wa Taala. We request his assistance, we seek His guidance, and we seek His protection. We also seek refuge in Allah subhanho wa Taala from the evil of ourselves, and the adverse consequences of our deeds we testify that whomsoever Allah guy's name can misguide and whomsoever He misguides, that none can guide, and we
request praises and blessings upon the final messenger, our master and leader and our teacher, Mohammed, Abdullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam. To my brothers and sisters in Islam, joining us
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The Hajj is the quest of every believer, and it is the fifth pillar of Islam and the pillar, which became compulsory according to the majority of the scholars of Islam during the ninth year after the hedger of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam, from Mecca to Medina, with the messenger sallallahu alayhi wasallam himself, performing it with over 100,000 of his companions during the 10th year after his migration from Mecca to Medina. The hedge brothers and sisters in Islam is a noble act of worship, which many scholars concluded being an act completed by every prophet of God Almighty, of Allah subhanho wa Taala. Since the advent of Adam alayhis salam, we have other scholars
saying the same but they excluded who the Allah His Salaam and slowly Allah His salam, saying that they couldn't perform the Hajj after the Kaaba was affected, because of the floods that Allah subhanho wa Taala sent on Earth at the time of Luca, his salah
and also that they that our to their people, kept them busy until they eventually passed away. Other said that they too made their way to Makkah because the place was known, even though the Kaaba might not have been there. In terms of how we know the hedge today, then no doubt it takes its shame from the time of Ibrahim alayhis salam, the halleen of Allah subhanho wa Taala, who rebuilt the Kaaba with his son is Marina le Salaam, and then is reported to have announced the Hajj and call to it after Allah subhanho wa Taala Allah commanded him to do so. After he completed building the caravan since his time, the scholars seem to agree that every prophet of Allah subhanho wa Taala indeed
performed the Hajj. In fact, our very own messenger sallallahu alayhi wa sallam is reported to have performed Hajj before he became a prophet of Allah, all be different to his people. And of course, upon the way of his greatest grandfather, Ibrahim alayhis salam and like this brothers and sisters in
Islam, the Muslims across generations followed through with love with a desire and with a unique willingness, despite its difficulties and challenges, and the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam did describe the Hajj as a Jihad lakita Luffy as a Jihad that has no fighting in it. He described it sallallahu alayhi wa sallam as a jihad, the love of the believers to be on the plains of alpha, on the day of our alpha, on a day in which Allah subhanho wa Taala is proud of his worship is, is indeed a manifestation of Eman and a show of great faith. And that brings us to today brothers and sisters in Islam, the year 1442, after the hedger of Rasulullah, sallallahu alayhi wasallam, from
Mecca to Medina, where despite the unprecedented, unprecedented times that we are in with COVID-19 Subhana Allah, everything is being done to ensure that the hedge does indeed take place. And it did indeed take place this year, albeit with 60,000 people, but no doubt better in terms of numbers than last year. So Pamela, the hedge also happened last year, albeit with 1000 who judge brothers and sisters in Islam. Yes, we mentioned unprecedented times but it must be understood that it's not unprecedented in our history. In terms of the hedge being affected like this for historians highlight 40 something years in which the hedge in some capacity was affected either completely or
partially for various reasons. And one of these reasons being an actual plague. Now with this, we understand brothers and sisters in Islam, how significant in trying times the Hajj will be and given how special a Hadji is a hygiene meaning a pilgrim why brothers and sisters in Islam because we are always proud and always in all of the 2 million guests of Allah subhanho wa Taala when 2 million attend the Hajj, or maybe more or a little bit less, we proudly say to them that Subhanallah Allah subhanho wa Taala has chosen you because we talk about 2 million in light of how many Muslims Han Allah on the face of the globe today. And this is what makes the Hajaj of last year and this year.
even more special for particularly with this year, when we congratulate someone for being a guest from the guests of Allah subhanho wa Taala we recognize when we say this, that they are one of just 60,000 people from the Omaha Amazon Allahu alayhi wa sallam alive today who Allah subhanho wa Taala chose to be his guest this year Subhan Allah now Alhamdulillah today we have one of those guests of Allah subhanho wa Taala brother waqqas Mohammed who is based in Riyadh for work purposes, but originally is from the UK from the United Kingdom. And without further ado, I would like to bring our brother on you guys on Instagram can already see him. But in terms of the other platforms, I
think I've successfully brought in one a Salaam Alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh Island wa sallam, when it comes down to
Mashallah, Tarik Allah Masha Allah wa Cassie looking very well and the hairstyle is testimony to your activities during the best days of the year, the first 10 days of the hijab hamdulillah hamdulillah and I think before we say anything else, I just want to comment but me being the media guy if people were to see the setup today, they would think the shape Mashallah specializes in media with the picture quality, the microphone, the background is Mashallah, whereas me, you know, I'm stuck with a humble webcam
as well. I was just thinking the other day she I don't know whether you remember the last time we were live together?
I do. I actually do remember the last time we were live together. Apologies for switching off the camera at this moment.
It will be temporary but I do remember the last time we were live together It was during the hedge of last year when just 1000 people went to perform the hedge and you were running
the hedge feed on one of the pages and asked me to be a part of
part of that hedge.
Yo ma a lot of my fellow So look, our last one with our lads united as again on a live feed to discuss HUD once again. Uh, yeah.
Well, then they could laomi who officiated Subhan Allah.
You know, now that you've opened up with what we discussed last year, because I remember when we were on the program last year, and just prior to the program, you were mentioning your
your desire to go for the hedge, and you actually applied and many people applied. Last year it wasn't meant to be they took 1000 and your name didn't come up but Alhamdulillah Hamza you had performed Hajj previously and I also know that
This hedge is a unique hedge in terms of the previous hedges that you you've performed because for those who might not know who are joining us, Brother workcast is someone who I know for perhaps just over 10 years now, Mashallah varkala. And our relationship started with him being a student of mine, and then it progressed into us becoming closer due to Allah bringing us together in different
in different projects together. And then Alhamdulillah he did move three up, and over time, we did become close. And I always said to him, that workers need to get married, because you definitely an eligible bachelor. And then Allah subhanho wa Taala Alhamdulillah blessed you, and not so long ago with a righteous spouse, may Allah subhanaw taala preserve you both. And tell me tell me about the idea of chasing and have the opportunity to do it last year and then again, pursuing it this year. And how did that how did that all come about? Is that gonna head for a moment? Are you gonna say tell me about the idea of chasing marriage. So that's another topic for another day, inshallah.
As you mentioned, it wasn't actually just last year, since I got married about three years ago, I promised my wife that inshallah we'd be going for Hajj. It was one of the things that we really wanted to do. My wife hadn't performed HUD before. Whereas as you mentioned, are performed HUD before. So as far in the very first year of marriage, we will prevent it. You know, the reasons. On the second year, as you know, due to the pandemic, the numbers were limited, so only 1000 people were allowed to perform Hajj last year, Qatar Allah, we weren't selected. Our intention was there. And we ask Allah, tala dari, you know, rewards us for the intention, Elise.
So when the opportunity came around this year, actually, even before the opportunity came around, if you remember, in February or March, there were rumors that if HUD was to go ahead this year, it would only be for those who are vaccinated. And I'm sure you remember the rumors surrounding vaccinations as well back then. So there was a lot of
fear and anxiety amongst people whether to take the vaccination or not.
Myself and my wife, Angela, we made a secara. And we took advice from medical professionals, we read upon the vaccines. And we said, Look, we're doing this for the sake of Allah subhanaw taala first and foremost, secondly, with the hope that insha Allah will be accepted onto Hajj
because it was looking more and more likely that to be accepted for Haji would have to be vaccinated. So our preparations began in almost February, I believe it was.
And then the actual information regarding highs didn't go out until I believe it was after Ramadan.
Maybe 10 or 15 days after Ramadan, where it was announced that it will take place on 60,000 people will be allowed to perform Hajj. And you can imagine the joy that was felt by many people in Saudi Arabia, not just us to hear the news that 60,000 people will be partaking in highs this year compared to 1000. So our chances, well, 60 times, you know, 60 phones hamdulillah. So as soon as we got the opportunity to register, we went on the website, we registered. Then after that I was just last hour. It also bought was made the last one that would give us this opportunity.
And then lots of work before as well. Of course, of course, definitely lots of leading up to the registration. And then during registration on then there was a waiting period, it was about 10 days waiting period, right when registration was open. And nobody knew whether they'd been accepted, you'd have to wait 10 days to find out the results. Now, you're talking about the application process. Yeah, right. So the application process, it required. You needed the vaccination, at least one, at least one job to apply
one vaccine to apply. No vaccine to apply, but you would have to get the second dose before going for Hajj. After you accepted. Yes, yeah. So you had the time after accepting second job? Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, the viewers listening so Pamela, as you can see, the hydrogen journey is a journey before the journey begins.
You know, okay, so this year everyone was performing hajj from within the kingdom. But, and obviously without the with those, you know, during normally as it's the visa application, and hoping you get your visa in time, and, you know, the flight bookings, and everyone's coming as a group so, and then there's the whole you know, the preps that happened before in terms of learning and education, and especially if it's your first hedge all the nerves that go with it, so you feel that there's a journey before a journey. But even though this was not your first hedge and you are within the kingdom, you are experiencing a journey before the journey. You had to get the vaccine because
they have COVID then you had to apply
And, obviously, that process, you know, you're you're thinking to yourself, on that day, how many people are going to be applying? You know, you're thinking to yourself, will my internet crash out? will be computer freeze? Will there be a, you know, a website crash? I mean, did you? Did you think of all those things or you just said talk a lot a lot. Let's let's just see how it goes. I mean, that was that fear, right. So we do hear about the local HUD website going down momentarily. So that was the fear, maybe I'll miss out. But humblot mincio hydralie relay those fears, they said the registration will be open for 10 days, it's not first come first serve. And that was really pleasing
to hear. So just in case there are problems with the website,
you won't be disadvantaged if you weren't one of the among the first to register. So that was, you know, heartening on that lessen the burden on the website, as well, as many people, you know, didn't just jump on, as soon as the website became live. so humble, other helps.
Were you were you thinking it's gonna be like the first 60,000 to register? who qualify, they will get in that kind of you into the process. The thought was there. Right. I remember speaking to my wife and thinking, I know, the ministry is saying it's not first come first serve, not the first 60,000. But you never know, maybe. Right. Yeah. So but I mean, before the analysis was that was that your thought process is that
you are getting ready? As if Absolutely. No, no, absolutely, absolutely. So we prepared ourselves in a way that, you know, it would be the first 60,000 to register. So my wife was on one device registering and I was on a different device, just in case her device went down, I was there. So you can see how much we really wanted to do hikes this year. And that that's the bulk I guess, the protocol of doing hedge as a married couple, it's you have you have a team, you have a team. And the vision is the same. The the marriage vision for that month is the same. And it's one of those moments whereby if you busy on your phone, your wife doesn't feel that you are neglecting her and if
she's busy, you don't feel that he's neglecting you because you both know that you're working for each other's benefit. Now, I must Pamela Okay, so
you went through the registration process that was successful then you said there was a waiting period? How did that work? So that decision closed 10 days after reopen rights and then there was a waiting period of two days after registration closes.
Now during those two days, we found out over 550,000 people had applied so well over half a million people and you know, you feel in your house funnel like this is going to be first come first serve right first 60,000 again,
it's a large number and you know, only 60,000 will be paid mid, you know, just just less than 10% of the number of people that
that are applied. So again, the fear and the panic setting. But again, you know, my cell phone my wife, I know my wife Mashallah she made lots of
big portable kaleena you know, whatever happens happens, we take the steps. Now the rest is up to Allah, we can't fight each other. Right We can make or we can ask Allah subhanaw taala
but the rest is up to Allah right? He knows our intention. He knows how much we really wanted to do over the past three years.
So hamdullah we left everything to Allah, Masha, Allah, Masha, Allah Baraka was it just two days after registration before results were announced, was it longer, roughly, I believe was two or three days. So this is what happened. I remember it was Friday, Friday night, when the first batch of results were announced. Now, at that point, we had no idea that we're going to release in batches, right? So yes, Saturday morning, we woke up to loads of tweets. People congratulating, congratulating each other we've received a message we've been accepted for heart. So number one, we felt happy for those people. But number two, we felt sad, you know, it's like Qatar Allah, we
weren't accepted. We had no idea that you know, this wasn't the final list.
So at that point, again, you know, there was disappointment. But that's all there was also acceptance of color. Because once again, you know, we'll be left everything to Allah and if it wasn't meant to be, Allah knows if his son inshallah Allah will reward us. Now, what happened on Saturday night is
around 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock at night, more tweets when people think I've just received the message now. And then there was a clarification from the Ministry saying the acceptance is going down in age ranges. So the I believe the first age range was 60 Plus or 50 plus
anybody 50 plus a batch had been selected. Then on the second night, I moved on to 40 Plus, and then the third night was our age range, right?
I went to sleep.
My wife was excited Mashallah, she I don't know how much she slept on the set.
Night. But what I remember is 230 in the morning, my wife is walking. You know, she she woke me up. And the first thought being woken up at 230 in the morning is Is everything okay? Right. So I said everything indeed was okay. Mashallah.
So I say, you know what was wrong, and she was really happy and she said, Look, hamdulillah we've been accepted for Hajj. And now the next thought is, am I dreaming? Because I was thinking about hate so much and acceptance. Is this a dream? Right? It's 230 in the morning, it's 230 in the morning, my you know, you've just been woken up suddenly, and your brains not really caught up to reality.
So once it was clear that this was real,
the thankfulness came from the heart. And, you know, as PI's predecessor said, and I'm paraphrasing this, quote, you will know in better shape,
we will never be able to thank ally enough for our blessings, because even those thanking Him is a blessing from itself.
You know, spamela,
no matter how much we thank Allah, Allah for this opportunity is unique, right? To be among to have 60,000 people.
It may seem a lot compared to last year by normally during normal HUD periods. Around quarter of a million people from within Saudi Arabia, go for Hajj. So even 60,000 was a small number to be accepted, to be accepted together. hamdulillah this was a great lesson from last month. Yeah. Just to just to
clarify 60,040 was it was it 45,000 was for foreigners? Was was that how they split it? And then within the kingdom and 15,000 for Saudis, was that the split? Yes. So that was the initial plan, right. 45,000 was going to be formulas. 15,000 Saudis. However, I've just seen the recent figures released official figures released by the Ministry, it was actually around 32,000 salaries and
28 27,500 fallenness. So it's almost an even split handler. Now, whether that was due to how many locals applied and how many experts applied, allow them.
You know, this is how the split worked out. And even the ratio between men and women was pretty equal. 5050 almost. Yeah. Okay. Mashallah. I mean, it also could be with due to affordability, I would imagine, after things were announced, and because,
to my knowledge, and you can correct me there was no idea in terms of the price. I mean, the idea of pricing wasn't wasn't clear at the application stage.
Right, then happened thereafter?
No, they had actually put off the packages on the first day of registration. So people had an idea of the pricing. However, I think some people assumed or prayed or hoped inshallah was that accepted, maybe the price will go down, or, you know, maybe there'll be concessions.
So, when you apply, there's no obligation on you to perform heart. So application didn't mean you have to pay and perform hard. so humble, I think people took the chance some people I think many people would have thought, okay, let's apply if I get accepted, maybe I can gather the finances to be able to perform Hajj. So I think this this was probably the reason. So you had almost even split also male to female ratio even split. Now Thea is making the alpha you saying me, Allah grant. inshallah, I mean, you and all the judges from here. Alright. So, I mean, you know, I don't know if the, if our, our viewers, I'm sure they are, I'm sure they imagining it. You know, it's
even if you're not a stressful person, but you, you you, you feel bad. You feel anxiety, and let's call it positive anxiety, healthy anxiety, because this is such a good thing. It's such a good thing. It's a journey of a lifetime. It's, you come back home, it's an opportunity to come back home the day you were when your mother gave birth, right? So your sins are all cleaned up. Right? It's an absolute forgiveness from Allah subhanho wa Taala is the opportunity to be at a place
whereby the people there are so important are so blessed that Allah subhanho wa Taala is pleased with them and praising them to His angels. So Han Allah right. So
obviously, you know, I want our viewers to feel this, that when you're going through this registration phase, and you're waiting and am I going to be accepted and What had you Mohammed what passes is telling us when he says the first day, they announced the results, it was a known that they were going to do this in batches. And I remember this, a lot of people felt that it's over. A lot of people felt it's over
They woke up that day. They all these tweets were happening on Twitter, people were sharing the text messages that they got from the ministry that they have been picked to go for Hajj. And it was it was a clear dichotomy those who got it, we're going those who didn't get it felt, we're not going. And then over time, it became manifest that no, it's a bit Well, it's being released in batches. And then it became clear that they're doing it in age ranges. So 60 and above 50, to 60, then 40 to 50. And then 30 to 40. And when Subhana Allah, Allah Subhana, Allah
bless you heard that message. And I remember telling you, I remember telling you, when those names came out, that if allowance you there, you will be there, nothing will stop you being there. Right now. And, and it happened. Okay, so you went through all of this, you know, the journey before the gym. Right? Yeah. And then after that, obviously, you had to, you are allocated to a hedge group. Talk us through that.
Yeah. So once you've been approved, you receive a text message, obviously, the text message asks you now to go on the website again, select your package and select the hedge group. Now, humbler this year, in terms of the packages, that was a clear choice, right, so there was only three packages to choose from. Now, if you selected one package in sorry, if you selected package A, B, or C, if you select a package a all the total operators would offer exactly the same thing. And then B, same thing, see same thing. The major differences in terms of packages very briefly, was whether you going to travel by air, by coach, and then the location of your tents, etc, everything else plus
your levels are very similar. Now, so I go on the website, we select our package,
you make the payment, you have, I believe it was two hours, we had to make the payment within two hours
humbler, the system payment systems very fast and very efficient. Once you made the payment last when your place is confirmed. So now if you don't make the payment, within two hours, Your place is gone. Right? It's allocated to somebody else. You may get the place again, you may not. So it was very important that people made the payment on time. humbler, we were given sufficient notice. So we received a text message at 230 in the morning,
telling us from 11am, you can go on the website and make your payment to confirm your booking. So you can imagine us from 10 o'clock in the morning, we will start refreshing the page and ready to make the payment. So huntleigh is a big relief once the payment went through. And they said confirmed on the page. Yeah, so that was a big relief. Even after you got the message you were still on the journey. It's still correct you you still felt that it's not done until we get that that permission that official permission paper to say you're it's called a story. Right? Right. Like a visa is like a visa like your hedge permission. All right for them. So once everything is confirmed,
humbler big burden is lifted off your shoulders, now you're just waiting for the tour operator to contact you.
So now begins what I would call actual phase of Hajj for you. Right The preparation before the Hajj.
Now there's there's two aspects of preparation Shere Khan, you know this very well.
First aspect is packing the materials that will be taken to heart. So let's briefly discuss what you need to take to heart.
Obviously, from the men side, it's recommended that you take at least two grams, very important, you know, brothers say right, wanting to be sufficient, but only in a town for three days. But I think after out of unmodified, you realize you do need a secondary home.
And then obviously the clothing that you wear and a lot of people especially abroad, will not realize when we go for Hajj in Saudi Arabia, we only there for five to six days. Whereas if you come from abroad Mashallah, you're here for two weeks, four weeks, and it's very strange for them to comprehend how come you're only here for five days, right? Why are you leaving after five days? We actually don't stay Nortel in Makkah. Very rarely do we stay in any apartment in Azizi or either. We go direct to Mina got out of harm's alley for about 10 minutes. And then for a minute we grab the coach and come back home. So our heart is literally you know, what you need to do for HUD and to
offer vada and then you're back home.
Basically, you you drive into Mecca on the day and you leave straight back out on the last day. Correct? Correct.
Your your hotel basically is your 20 Minute. Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah. So you know Mashallah Mina becomes your home for those four or five days.
Now, I'll let you discuss the fic aspect of this. But this is a very contentious point and I remember having a back and forth with yourself. And then I remember watching videos of course, I mean, schagrin bas Chico, say me and so much
yielders because this is such a divisive topic, the topic of shampoo, shower gels, soaps, which are scented perfume.
This is actually a lot harder in Saudi Arabia than it is in the West in the West, you can easily obtain all of these toiletries without perfume without scent. Whereas in Saudi Arabia did a lot of research online. And then I also visited pharmacies and stores and we actually managed to find only two brands, which did non perfumed or non scented toiletries.
So very grateful humbler we managed to find and as you can imagine, when we went to Mina, we saw everybody with the same brands Mashallah.
Because they seemed to be the only two brands in Saudi Arabia that were offering this
I think I'll let you touch upon the fake aspect of this perfume, soap and toiletries before I mean,
if a question does come up, we can discuss it but I mean, let's let's just keep it in terms of your your preps, by the way, you might see me looking up or sideways. That's because this particular broadcast is happening on multiple platforms on more than one Facebook page on the Twitter page on Instagram, and YouTube at the same time, so I'm just being conscious of different comments. If anyone has any questions for our brother or caste please do place it in Facebook, or wherever you're following from and inshallah we'll get it asked to him even later Allah. So brother will pass is telling us about his preps for Hajj. And one of the things that he was doing was making sure that he
went to the hedge with
with unscented unperfumed, product, Sham, you know, shampoo, soap, and obviously, hand sanitizer. So you're looking for an unscented unperfumed hand sanitizer as well. And obviously, the reason for that is because a person who is in the state of Iran, a person in the state of Iran is not supposed to, to touch anything perfumed or to use anything perfume to go ahead. Now. So actually, it's funny, you mentioned the hand sanitizer because one of the videos I watched, I believe it was
Chieko semi or a one of one of them which I can saw the interview he gave, it was giving examples. He is saying sometimes, you know, people need to understand what is perfume?
Some people wouldn't even use that whole because they believe that perfume because who would wear that one as a perfume? Right? So sometimes you need to think logically as well. People wouldn't wear that hollers perfume, right.
So 100 in terms of sanitizers on wipes, it wasn't much of an issue, but in terms of the toiletries, hamdullah, we managed to get a hold of what we needed. Now besides, I think one thing which is very important in terms of materials is having comfortable slippers, you will not realize the benefit of these Oh, until you actually start walking and Minar and then out of Metallica jamara You know, it really comes in handy Mashallah. So make sure you take comfortable slippers no matter whether it's during pandemic or after pandemic, because you will be working a lot during
and then to pace etc. So that's the materialistic side of things, you know, in terms of materials that you need to prepare for. But what's more important than all of this is being spiritually prepared to do Hajj. And unfortunately, when I went for Hajj many years ago is over 10 years ago, the first time one of the things that really struck me and it was quite sad to see
many people were not prepared for height, so they were gaining their monastic. They you know, that they were trying to understand the rituals of Hajj during Hajj itself. That's dangerous because if you if you're not able to get hold of a person of knowledge in time, you could mess up your heart right you could mess up the rituals if you're spending so much money to go on hedge just invest another five pounds 10 pounds into books materials into or just watch videos on YouTube regarding highs Mashallah check it out but Mashallah join us on Instagram and he's recommending some slippers. So I think yes, I can see. I didn't want to interrupt you and I'm not sure if I'm supposed to market
anything but yeah, if anyone wants to know of anything good then please join the Instagram feed and take note of what that would but has
a very quick welcome chef that would shut down with this beloved chef to us. He is based in Canada and is a graduate from the Islamic University of Medina and
he has Mashallah Tabata Cola, a lot of experience in community development Alhamdulillah and building communities and
obviously for the sake of Allah subhanho wa Taala welcome Shaka delay very quick.
I think there's just one thing I'd like to say about check out before we continue in Shall I would it be nice to have him on the stream as well but Marcela,
Got to have some of the most beloved among the most beloved people in my life, watching this live stream with me, he checks it somewhere and check it out. But check it out both has very, very dear to me because when I moved to Malaysia for one year,
he was one one of a handful of people who got me through some very difficult times as you, you may remember shake sided the our dear brother, that scene passed away during the year. And that was a tough time for many of us. And I'm so thankful that God was there for me during that time.
to bring him on the show is available. It will be an honor to have him on as well have dropped him a link if he is able to join in. Jimmy, go ahead. Yes. So now spiritual preparation, right. So I mentioned reading up on books, making sure you prepared asking a personal knowledge
is very, very important that you're spiritually prepared, we're lucky because it's so easy to mess up your heart. So easy to do things wrong, so easy not to know what you can do in a home where you can't do in a home, how many songs you need to patch in general,
how long you should stay when you should go. You know, there are so many aspects of Hajj that you need to be aware of before you go there. Starting from the intention, right so what type of hygiene you're going to do. Many people don't even know the you know, people would ask on the day
you know, what type of aid should I do? What's the near wipe announcer Nia is in the hammer, etc, etc. Right? So you need to be prepared for this. With your permission shake. I just want to quickly go through the material I used for preparation and maybe it'll be useful for some of us insha Allah, please please go ahead.
What are you doing that are similar check that would know if he checks his messaging service. There is a link that he can use to join us if he's available to join us. Mashallah has left us on Instagram a heartwarming message. I have baccala have bacala share that with me Allah subhanho wa Taala love you. Now he very quickly Please go ahead. are you sharing with us some material brother Walker says as Haji Muhammad waqas is taking us through the steps that he went through in preparing for the Hajj there was the material aspects and now the spiritual aspects the knowledge aspects. And emammal Bihari Rahim Allah He has a he has a chapter in Sahih al Bukhari, which states burble le
macabre Kohli will amble
the chapter of knowledge before speech and action. So hygiene is about speech and action. And no doubt you need to have knowledge before you engage in that speech and action. So you are preparing also from a knowledge perspective in terms of how to go about the hedge Yeah, and a very quick This wasn't your first hedge so now when you say preps just to
you know, just to for those who have done hedge before and they they planning on coming hedge maybe next year for example, why would it be important to still prepare from a knowledge perspective for the Hajj even though even though you have previous knowledge? Right, it's not gonna have very good question and I was going to address
a very quick slam to Kashmir as well. We don't want to ignore him. Mashallah is is just left a comment
by you. So what why did I need to prepare again, if I've been on Hutch,
I actually went on the last time I went on, it was over 10 years ago. And I remember going to that hedge, having read one book and cutting a pamphlet with me.
On your very first project, it can be daunting, right? To try to memorize everything you're following your pamphlet, which tells you what you need to do when you need to do it.
The pamphlet that you carry with you may only be one page, explain the four different sections, it doesn't really give you the spatial aspect of why you're doing it, or what the history is, who performed the when they perform a what kinds of things you should do. It doesn't give you the full context behind it. So for me, it was revision, as well as learning new things. Right? There were a few things which I felt I could have done better the last time I went flat. And I wanted to make sure that I do it right this time. And
give us examples. What were things that you felt from your last head, you could have done better? And why did you feel like you could have done them better? Yeah, so I think when we come on to the actions of each day, I'll touch upon those things. The main thing is Mina. I felt I was really weak and meaner the last time, but I'll explain why in shala very shortly when we get on to the events of Easter. So let's talk about the material that I use, apart from the videos that I mentioned already that I watched
regarding hijab regarding some of the key rulings, and of course Chex number was one of the main sources for me, not just before HUD, but even during the remember I call you and I'll touch upon the exciting incident on the very first day of HUDs. Very short.
The books that I use so this this was the very first book that I use on my very first heart and I went in very briefly through it again this time this is getting the best out Well hi Janice by our dear friend colleague. And just as a boonie smile David's from Australia
Mashallah, this is probably the best English language hedge book, best selling English language book for many years. And he's done I don't know how many regions maybe this is the 20th version or something 20 is the region now this is it is already
Corona. Some of the information does need updating so
we'll have to see
if our if abou summary right yep.
We need we need is we need Mr. David's? If he is if he's watching and I'm sure we'll get him this this this piece of the clip as well get it to him that had you been hammered O'Casey saying that, given the events of 2019 and 2020
the book needs updating. Yeah, Marshall I remember looking at that book several several years ago In fact, I think in 2005 maybe if I'm not mistaken. Yes. Press that even even teaches you how to shop when you come to Medina how to do your shopping as a hygiene because now there's no
because the shops and everything, Mashallah, and they've changed a lot. So some of those aspects may change, updating as well. But 100 is still one of the one of the best books in the English language. If you're going for a DJ, I definitely recommend this book. The second book that I utilize was this 175 question and answers on genre by doctors, camera for everyone to see.
I think the Instagram people Instagram people are missing out but okay, but you can read it out for them. So 75 questions and answers on hygiene armado. Now, by doctors who really shake this is by darussalam publishers. Did you purchase that in reality and reality now? Are
you paid for that approximately? And is it available online for people living in other parts of the world is available on the website? So I'm pretty sure they deliver internationally as well is about 40 deals, I believe around the price of the back of it, but I think it's about 40 rounds just about to find this book from Abu Munoz one yeah, so this is more
ficky it's not you know, where to shop where to find this, how you would walk into a home which exit which entrance, right? A woman is a very in depth, whereas this is just q&a, right some of the most frequently asked questions. For example, if I just pick a random question,
what should a person do on the ninth of the ledger? For example, it takes you through that. If a woman has done aamra already and has put on a crown for her john, he tells a ledger and then gets menstruation What should she do? So these are more of the most common questions that people would ask. And it gives very good Mashallah detailed answers with the most of time with evidences and references. So I highly recommend this book as well. Okay, the next one is you may be aware of this one, I shake the rituals of genre by shake on Islam Ibn taymiyyah.
So that's an edition I wasn't aware that it was in English now. So again, I got this from drag this from Dara, salaam or Jerry. Okay. It could have been what was what was the unique benefit that you took from the so
I had a few questions, especially regarding the types of heart, right, and also the kinds of things that we do while sentimental. So this will help me a lot when it comes to worship and Minar what people do what people do, don't do well then what people tell you not to do, et cetera. This is an excellent book for that it's very in depth fake with excellent evidences and sources. Well worth well worth going through this book, if you want to know in detail regarding why things are done in Hodge, how they don't
and how the professor did them and also the scholars of Islam how they recommended it.
The next one is a small pocket book, which is this one.
Okay, on bronze era, this is best shape when
Translated by segment boss, again very similar to check one time years book, but this is pocket guide so you can carry it with you.
And inshallah if you need to refer to during Hajj you can do okay, I'm getting to last three items now.
This is excellent. This is very, very, very good HUD Pocket Guide and this comes with a woman his book
The getting the best out of HUD. Okay.
Aluminum, aluminum is fine, as well. I wasn't aware that he had a pocket guide. Yeah, it used to come with the book. I don't know whether it still does the publishers.
It's just a pamphlet. It's a three page pamphlet. It takes you through every single day. All right?
Yes, yes. Yeah. It's very, very good. So as you can see here, a facilitator what happens 910
this was very, very helpful, especially for my wife.
I know she referred to this before going forward, and I'm sure we should refer to her during Hajj as well. So not only does it take you through the intention, all the way to the 13th of the ledger, what you're supposed to do, where you're supposed to be
the kinds of doors you make, etc. This is one of the best resources if you can get hold of this, I definitely recommend you purchase this, and inshallah we will the person will the person bite. Well, I have had this since my very last HUD, which was 10 years ago. So I don't know whether they still sell it. But it's published by Darren hare.ok.com.
If you go on the website, I think it should still be available. If not, a woman is on Facebook, just send him a message. And I'm sure he'll be able to update you if you can get hold of this. Jimmy. Jimmy, Jimmy, thank you. The last two books.
Which one should I start with? Okay. I'll start with this one. I'm sure you're aware of this one chef. Okay, monarchical hydrochloride. So this is for Arabic speakers. This is an Arabic book by
Ali bin muscle fowl halluf.
a real gift for me.
I refer to this book more than anything else. Because it was concise. It was pocket book. But he answered every question that I had during my time in Mina, as well as
out of Gemma rod. Melissa, this has answers to most of the questions that you have. So if you're an Arabic speaker, this is the pocket guide that you should carry with you. You should study beforehand and also carry it with you during college. What was it that you didn't get in the other books
that you chose? Was it the simplicity? Was it the quick reference a Boolean with it? Yeah, I think more than anything, it was the simplicity, it was direct to the point. Whereas other books, one in depth explaining the reasoning behind why you have to do this. And what else you can do. Here it was, you have a choice, you can do this, or you can do this, right.
And humbler, the author the publishing house, etc. They're all legitimate. So you don't need to worry about referencing, although there was one thing which I sent myself and I sent a few other people as well, which I couldn't get the link for that was regarding
the Prophet sallallahu Sallam he used to perform tawaf every night, while Susan Minar so that aspect, I still haven't been able to find any evidence or proof for that. But apart from that, this was excellent. Yeah, and this was, this was only one real 15 halala. So very, very cheap. Mashallah, now, the very last thing that's like, just 22 p 24. pence or something of that? Yeah. Yeah. The very last book, this is an English, you'll be happy to know is this one.
How do you know more, according to general cost,
compiled by Maulana Mahara, and it was published by Sahih International, revised and edited by Asahi International.
And is published by a podcast and publishing house in Saudi Arabia.
This was very similar to the ultimate book that I've just shown this for one very concise, straight to the point, but it's an English
so if any English speakers, I think they should definitely utilize this.
A, it's very similar. So I know you're gonna ask me what was different about this book is very similar. It's just a quick reference again, and the English language and it had a bit more detail compared to the Arabic booklet that I showed earlier. But again, I found this very useful. So I mean, if I if I told you out of all the books that you shared, if I said you can only take with you one book, which one would it be? This one, if you just had to be one, if somebody had bought a big speaker, then it has to be this one. Right? If I can understand that a bit, then I will say this one, but is that because you read the other books? Or even if you didn't read the other books, then
this would this would this would suffice?
You know, it's a good point.
No, because that's what happens right? You have previous knowledge that
you're right, you're right, you're right. No, so i think i think i would recommend one then I would recommend to both of these.
watching one on on YouTube, even on Facebook inshallah, what we will do is
We'll get the book names and authors. And we'll put it in the description box
of the YouTube interview so that it's easy for you to access them. And for those who are watching on Instagram,
I last remember, it's been a long time since I've done Instagram Live. I last remember that they give you a one hour slot. So if our time comes to an end, then please do go to the YouTube channel youtube.com slash build your agenda, very easy youtube.com slash build the agenda. And you can follow the remainder of this discussion on YouTube, please, or you can visit my Facebook pages or Twitter page is being broadcast there as well. All right, excellent. So Mashallah, you've done the material preps, you've done the knowledge base preps, I know you're in contact with myself as well. And I just want to highlight that it shouldn't be a preparation void of a teacher,
you shouldn't just read a book, and then go for hij write a book cannot be your teacher, you should have a teacher with you, who you can double check your understanding both and this is important brothers and sisters in Islam, because if your book is your teacher, then you understanding it based on
the limited capacity of your own mind and the understanding of the Islamic sciences and sometimes something is being said and you are understanding what wasn't said. Okay, simple example. Many of the books say when you get to suffer, you should raise your hands. And we see some Muslims, when they get to suffer, they raise their hand and they wave to the Kaaba like this, or the wave to the car buy like this as if it's the insula, but Raise your hands means Raise your hands into.
Right, so and when I speak to some people and say what, you know, what are you doing? They say that no, the book says, raise your hand. So they've misunderstood what raise your hand means. So this is just one example. It's important that you do have a teacher that you touch base with.
When you Okay, and I mean, this is another thing I guess I would ask you previously when you went for how'd you there was a Hydra guide. Right? Who was with you during the days of hedge you had access to? What about this hedge? Given that you you know, not normally with?
You know, similar people from back home? Was there like a hygiene guide someone to bounce questions off and get answers from? Did you have that kind of facility? I know Yes. To call me. And I kept my phone available they a night
for those who are nhej. But over there, what did you have someone close by to to get your answers? Is that gonna hurt? Yeah.
So what what actually happened after we were selected into groups, we will put into buses, right, each bus would have 20 people. So now that became our group and each group had a guide. Right? So he would not only just be your supervisor on HUD, but also if you had any Islamic questions, he will be there. If he can say he would ask the religious guide and they will get back to you. So 100 people on the bus from rehab to Mecca or when you in Mecca, it was supposed to be everywhere. So from it was definitely 20 from the ultimate QA on the lobby, social distancing, the post can hold almost 50 people, right, so you can imagine only one person per row. Someone drives well spaced out.
So one, one supervisor was responsible for 20 people, basically. Okay, how long was the bus ride just so everybody knows that you are on a journey to hedge? Yeah. Go for hedge by bus, from rehab to Mecca. How long was that? Yeah. It was supposed to be 12 hours, right? ended up being close to 14 or 15 hours.
I was 15 hours. So
yeah, you felt the journey going there. I mean, it wasn't just that, you know, you appeared on the plains of hedge without realizing you were there. You had such a long journey that when you got there, you knew your way. Yeah, I mean, sunlight reminded me the very first time I came home, I think it was back in 2006 or seven. Very first time I came.
I flew in from UK, and I believe that was a transit. It wasn't a direct flight. It was a night flight.
We got to Jeddah about two or 3am in the morning. And then after the process, actually Ramadan had started on that night. So it was the first night of Ramadan when we landed into the so you can imagine I mean, I find it difficult to sleep on planes. Most of the time I find the difficulty was this. So did you say first night of Ramadan? It was first night Ramadan when I came home for NOFA.
Yeah, so the very first time I came to Saudi Arabia,
so you can imagine it was about a 10 hour flight. Then we get to Jeddah that's about three hours processing. Once you're done with the processing, you get on the bus, you are now fasting we had actually fasted that day with a packet of crisps and a bottle of water.
So that was interesting fast so you can imagine how tired we were and
the eagerness from all the brothers Mashallah where we come from. The first thing we wanted to do was to go on, perform ombre then
We can relax. So we hadn't slept properly. It was a long flight long day and we got to Makkah, and we were extremely hungry, thirsty,
extremely tired. But I remember walking into my civil harem and our guide, may Allah reward him. He really looked after us, he told us, he said, Look, you don't have to do this. Ideally, just keep your eyes lowered until we get closer to the cover and then you can look at the cover.
So we did that. And when we got close to the cover, he said, look up and panela the first sight of the Kaaba, all the tightness, all the hunger, all the sleep deprivation, everything disappeared. It was such an amazing sight on this journey now from Riyadh to Makkah for height It reminded me of you know, this was about 15 hours.
spa one hour into the journey we were hit by massive sandstone.
I remember sending you photos of the Sandstorm Shea. We were so Allah subhanaw taala objectives is one that we will pop up in the service station to pray. So we literally went into the masjid to pray ourselves. Everything was clear as a nice beautiful day.
After a sir as soon as we open the door, we couldn't see anything. You look down and you can just about see slippers. It was a sandstone, sandstone. And it it turns that day in tonight that yes, it was scary and humble again, Allah. Allah protected us because if we were on the highway, driving down in the sandstone, Allah knows best You know what, what could have happened? humbling. You know, most of the people here are very careful when sandstorms here, but when there's no visibility when you if you have your hazards on, it's very dangerous.
The worst accidents have happened pile ups in sandstorms. Just I don't mean to cut you there. But somebody was asking a question which which was related to the last point about there's a course with a co author called Jenny, Jenny of the heart. Have you done that course? And would you advise it? Absolutely.
I actually did cause for HUD. So the very first time I went for HUD,
I went on my course and it was Shea son, a son, I believe is yes. I forget the name of the case. And I've done now let's say she her son of the law and a woman. So both of them, because one of them the tag team. So she has sanded the fake aspect. And Obama needed all the practical aspects of it. So it's an excellent course. Excellent. I highly recommend everyone to do it. And obviously Abu Munir is the author of the book and he was teaching you life. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So any questions? humbler? Okay. So, so you, you, you, you know, you got to the harm, and on the eighth of the ledger. So yeah, you left three out, if I remember, on the seventh of the hedger not and then it took you this 15
hours. So you you throughout the night, and if you're a person who doesn't sleep on a bus or sleep on a plane, or like myself, I don't you land or you arrive very tired. And you arrived on the eighth of the ledger. And given that you are not coming from abroad, you don't have a hotel to go to your hotel is going to be meaner. But
you went to the harem, either to do the awful costume, or to do your your Amara, if you're doing head to toe matter. So you had that experience where you extremely tired, but then you get to the harem, and it's all gone. The adrenaline is in you on the man wave, you hear it's the moment it's the eight of the ledger is the day of thorough study of thoroughly panela but before we talk about the day of teruya Yeah, tell us about the hedge that you you did. Yeah, so interesting. Fun a lot, a lot of things were not as straightforward as, as we would have liked them to be. And we have to understand these were exceptional circumstances, people were doing the absolute best that they can
to provide as much information as possible. But some things were bound to be unclear until you actually reached a certain point.
So myself and
my wife we need to do to perform highster motto which is you perform mama get out of a drum and then get into stay away around for Hajj.
To has two meanings just for our viewers. So moto has two meanings. It has a general meaning, which is hedge and Amara during one trip. Yeah, right and Allah says the Quran for mentimeter Bella Marathi el Hadji firma stay salamin el Hadji.
So fermented metathesis tomato, so it refers to hiji and Amara in one trip. So that's the general meaning. Yeah, and then you have a specific meaning the specific meaning the specific meaning is Hajj and Umrah or Amara and Hajj in one
trip with Amara bytes
with a full camera being done in that trip and you coming out of a harem and then entering back into a harem whilst you're on the same trip for Hajj. Alright, so that's just for our viewers to understand what HTML is the first hedge that I did or the in terms of the general meaning Why do we have the general meaning because at the time of the Sahaba at the time of the Sahaba, some scholars have said that hedge Tehran was also called tomato in the general sense, hedge Tehran. Tehran is where you do hygena Amara
in one trip and with one haraam not to harems with one.
Generally, at the time, it was a habit This was also understood in some capacity to be tomato, but brother had you across Mohammed webpass here is referring to the specific meaning and the specific meaning is that you do Amara and Hej in one journey but was to her arms and her arm for Amara, and then any haram for for Hajj. Now, generally people do this when they come to Mecca from abroad, and they come 10 days before Hajj, 15 days before Hajj and they come or maybe they come into Mecca 10 days before the Hajj or five days before the head so to stay around for all those days can be difficult. So they come and they do the Amara. And then they come out of a haram by just shortening
the hair not shaving it off.
And that allows them to be in plainclothes until your Motorola the eighth. And on the eighth then you were in your hotel or at Mina, you're a harem again and you intend the Hajj right. Now obviously brother waqqas is coming from rehab, no hotel. And he wants to he's saying that his heart his desire was to do the tomato hedge, which means he's going to have a busy busy eighth of the hedger a busy Yeoman Toria tell us how what happened? Yeah, I mean, I think just briefly to touch upon the reason for tomato as well.
The professor cinemas, we know he only performed one hedge.
So when it comes to performing hajj, you will notice generally there are many differences of opinion because you know the prophets Allah Solomon the companions, they were there and they reported
how the prophet SAW someone perform the Hajj.
Now the problem is Allah solemn shake, you can correct me if I'm wrong, he actually performed Iran. But he said, If I knew, I'm paraphrasing, if I knew what I know now, I would have performed the motto basically of the girl they brought my sorry if I didn't have my sacrifice with me. So the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, he came from Medina to Makkah having his animals marked for slaughter, as part of his Lusaka as part of his hedge, or he came with part of his animals. The other part came with early robiola, who is from Yemen
accordingly, he was instructed when he was Advil relief.
He said attorney Laila it right meaning the angel came to me mean the angel was sent to Allah and came to me and commanded me to empty her arm with the intention of hedging Amara, this hedge Kiran
where you enter the haraam for hedge and Amara, but it's not just entering into haram with hedging or entering into haram with the intention of hygiene ombre in one trip, which means one haram for both Amara and hedge with the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam there was something additional attached to it. What was that addition? that he had his animals safal hady he kept he he marked his animals for slaughter before entering the state of Haram. Oh, he entered the state of harem and he passed the mypod boundary with those animals marked for slaughter. Okay, you can have people who enter into the state of Iran with the intention of hygiene omura or ombre and hygiene, one haram but
they don't have the animals marked, which is most of the majority of the cases today because the whole slaughter concept is controlled and regulations.
So the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam he went with the intention of Tehran but also with him was his animals for the slaughter. And at the end of his
actions, the harem when he got to Mecca, he did the top off and then he did the surgery.
Which majority of the scholars say that the dwarf he did was awful. Kudu and the salary was the salary of hedge. The salary was the size of hedge.
After that, he told the Sahaba who were with him, he told the Sahaba who were with him to come out of
the Hara. What does this mean? Now? This means that they should do hatch them.
Right what you would normally do if you came from abroad a few days before the days of hygiene, you did the Amara, and
Come out of Amara. So the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam told them to make the tawaf that they did, and the salary that they did, and Amara, and now for them to shorten the hair and come out of a harem. So obviously the Sahaba because when they heard the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam was coming for Hajj, they all wanted to come over 100,000 met up with him, they wanted to see firsthand how he does the hedge and be with him when he does the hedge. And he's staying in the home. He's not coming out of a home.
So what happens? You can imagine that they will questions that you telling us to come over here, I'm a messenger of Allah, but you're still in the harem. So he said, he said, If I knew, then what I know, now, I wouldn't have carried my animals with me. And I would have made these actions and I would do what I'm telling you to do. So everyone who didn't come into Makkah with the animals marked, he told them to make their actions in the harem, and Amara, and to come out of a Haram.
So but there were there were people who had the same intention as the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam, and also had the animals like Ali or the other one. So as he was told to stay in a home, and not to make his actions by the actions of Amara. So this is just a backdrop to What had you workers is saying, and this is where this whole discussion comes from. That is hedge tomato better, or is hedge pierron better. But one thing I want to say before Heidi workers goes on and tells us about his his hedge is that the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam wasn't in regret that he was doing hedge Quran and that he took his animals with him. He wasn't saying I regret doing it. Why?
Because Allah chose it for him. Remember I said earlier the angel came and told him what to do. So Allah chose for him that hedge.
But why did the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam say this the scholars through looking at the Syrah and the context of events. They highlight that in the period of ignorance and Jia helia, the Quraysh frowned upon people doing Amara during the months of hedge. So what about O'Meara in the same trip, as hedge? So this was a means of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam, recalibrating what is acceptable and what isn't acceptable and to teach the people that it's perfectly fine for you to do a mirage during the month of hedge, and it's perfectly fine for you to do ombre in the same trip with hedge. Okay, so this was the idea, brothers and sisters in Islam because we know that
the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam manifested a different approach to hedge doing hedge upon the way of Ibrahim alayhis salam during this hedge. So people could see that they had to do away with the with the waves of the Porsche. For those who don't know, the Qureshi also did hedge, but they changed the hedge, they would stand on the day of alpha on the plains of Miss Delica. They wouldn't stand on the plains of alpha. Why? Because they would say that the plains of Africa outside of the harem boundary. So they would say this is not a pure land like Miss Delica. The immeasurable harem. This is where they would go and stamp the head. This is a holy land. But Ibrahim Alayhi Salam stood
on arafa and upon the view that the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam did Hajj before he became a prophet. He stood on the plains of Africa as his great, his greatest grandfather, Abraham and his Salah. Alright, so I hope that's, that's clear. So tell us about yourself for the past, because I know in the bus you were reading the different mazahub and the different views, you know, this might have says the run is better. They Shafi say the the Friday's better the hamburgers are saying the temperature is better. So you were contemplating this, you had many hours to the market. And you were thinking of the best way forward. So what how did you go about it? Yeah, I mean, it was all
dictated by confusion that was caused and changing circumstances changing information as well. updates are we receiving throughout the night, right? We're on the journey on the bus. And none of us know what type of HUD we're going to be performing because
early on we found out in the night
I think I'm having connection issues or you're having connection issues.
I think it breaks out in Brixton, but I can hear you clearly. Okay. So early on in the journey we were informed that actually say he will be closed by the time we reached by the time we reach Mr. Malhotra. This is the eighth of the hedger on datums and ages so they said there'll be no sign you'll only be able to perform to Africa do
and say you will not be open. And I think this was I don't know whether it was official information or it was just a precaution to ensure there's no crowding and there's no routing due to Corona. So then obviously, you know, and we had a choice between Kieron and some people actually run with a frog as well.
So I was I was leaning towards get on now I really wanted to do tomato but you know circumstances will not allow it
by the time we got to the meat cut we again asked for an update what's going on
I actually found out from one of the Facebook pages it was actually open and if you look at the live stream of muscle home people who are performing site so our group was saying geotechnology Marsha, Marsha, you have you have options.
Unfortunately our group the advice still was as risky by the time you get there you may not be able to perform say, so this is where these books
came in handy Mashallah. I thought okay, if I make my Nia for tomato and then I contacted yourself as well. And if I'm prevented from performing sighs can my Nia be changed and hamdulillah you know, all the sources said yes, you can change to get on. You can change your near.
So like the prophets of Allah, Allah wa sallam said, he says, now
so 100 about some peace of mind tools. And we went ahead and our Nia was we're going to perform tomato.
So we finished from the cart After further we prayed further in because in five
and then we set off from tonic to massive harm. So we actually set off from reality around 330 in the afternoon,
we set out on the seventh of the eighth so on the eighth of June, we reached muscadelle harem around but before that you reach them you cut and then I thought you talking about Meerkat.
Now, which is the McCartney or pif? Yes. I say Lily Kabir as as upon the route of sale al Kabir. Yes, no. So this this mute part has the biggest musti to my knowledge today. Yeah, and this is the this is the muted brothers and sisters for the people who come from Nigeria. And the rehab is in Nigeria. So you cross this new car to get to to Mecca, just like the people in Medina, they cross their method known as Colonel manager, Colonel sorry.
Is the mule part of the people of Medina and you cross the halifa to get to MCC? Okay, go ahead. So you reach seven What time was it around February you said for
the mcats we actually reached around 230 in the morning 230 or three in the morning. So now, now the problem was we obviously people take time when they want to get into a room. So we were supposed to set off well before fudger. And that was a chance that we'll be able to pray for the muscle.
Unfortunately, having such a large group and all the buses from the group sought to travel together. So there was about eight buses, I believe with us, eight times 20. So 20 people in each bus
05 or eight adults remember the exact number. But all the buses had to travel together. So we had to wait for every single person to be in and ready to leave. And by the time they were ready, it was only about half an hour to fudger. So it didn't make sense for us to leave the makeup just before five. So we decided we'll pray for it and then set off straight to muscle. So that's what we did. We prayed further on the set of to muscle harm.
Before reaching muscle harder, we had to go to a reception center, where
in Saudi Arabia, we have an application mobile app, which shows you immunization status, whether you've been vaccinated or not. It's called what calendar so this app was checked for every single pilgrim and then also the industry. And we were also given smart cards, which had all the information regarding those QR code. So in case we get lost, officials will easily be able to get hold of our group will know exactly where we're staying, etc, etc. So these were all given to us. And then from the reception center, we set off to my signal home we were actually escorted by a security car that each boss was escorted by a security car all the way to muscadelle home so
Mashallah real VIP treatment. You're getting police escort.
So we need Mr. Del Hara around I think it was around seven o'clock in the morning, how six or seven. So what you maintaining your wuhou throughout, obvious hungry, trying to keep you because you're going to pray in the harem. Now, and of course, as you know, you need to have will do fatwa,
according according to many of the scholars, correct? Yeah. Yeah. So when we got to sit at home, obviously, our intention was to our former and a few of the people in the group as well. They decided to do the motto, so to offer Rama and once you finish on the roof, we performed outside. Some people in the group then didn't perform say.
So they went ahead, they took the buses to
Iran basically. No, no, yeah, somebody's doing good on them.
I think one or two we're doing a fraud as well. Yeah, so if you are doing hedge Quran or fraud, then you don't have to do Saturday after your TOEFL calm you can do it after your top of hedge when you come back to the harem on the 10th of Dhul hijjah Yeah, so you were you from the me part did you decide I'm doing tomato? That's what you decided. Okay, and then you enter the heroin you saw some panel everything's open and hungry. Right so then you did your you did your seven rounds. You started at the Hydra last why'd you had your shoulder uncovered? Yeah. Which he you know, and which is the son of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam as we have in some reports, for all seven
rounds, your shoulder was uncovered the bar and you did the ramen ramen, which is the job to be quick walk for the first three rounds and then we're finding four rounds you walked normal pace as per the sooner and also you reading Europe and it never dunia hasn't our philosophical it hasn't ever been our at between the rock near money, the money corner and the corner of the adolescent. Okay, then you you finish that un 10 you perform tu tu tu tu Raka at after tawaf and indeed you recited kuliah Hill, Catherine in the first unit, and the second unit one Oh, Allah who I had. And then you went towards the salary, and you completed the salary process as well. Okay, then you have
to cut your hair. So obviously, you have to shorten your hair, not not shave your hair, because you're already on the eighth. And you need to shave on the 10th. In two days, you're not going to grow any more. Hey, so what happened? Yes. So before that, actually, I missed one very important point.
As I mentioned, I think in 15 hours, I probably rested on I think it's the same for my wife as well. She couldn't sleep either. Probably lasted about one hour. And the whole journey probably slept for one hour. I can't imagine. I'm not. I'm not a great I don't if I'm sitting I don't sleep. Yeah, so long. Whether you on the plane on a bus, I can imagine exactly what you're going through. So you can't sleep you mentally exhausted. You can't read because you mentally exhausted, but you can't sleep as well. And especially if it's a bus and it's bouncing, and it's you know, it's
you know, everyone has a different
preferences. So you you you mentally exhausted, you die, but you Allah has given you the strength, you've managed the armor on the handle. And again, this is why it reminded me of my very first summer, you know, I was exhausted from data all the way to McConville fasting. And then this one is similar, right? We weren't fasting, but it was a long journey. And again, as soon as the intimacy of the harem, and see the Congo has, you have energy, you're full of energy
for me, so Allah allowed us to complete home. So the last thing remaining was for me to show to my hair, and for my wife to clip,
you know, the required amount of hair. So my wife approached her sister on top of Marvel after we we'd completed our rounds.
And she said, Do you have a scissor? And then one of the officials approached her and we said, Why do you need a scissor? And she said, You know, we've completed our ombre and we need to get away from and he said something interesting, you know, which really throws off?
He said, No, you shouldn't you should be doing Iran because the sign may not be open in the coming days.
Now was, you know, after you don't
think you will do here.
You know, I tried to reason I said, Look, I don't believe that's gonna be the case. Because there's many other people who've come and you know, they'd want to do science Well, in the coming days. Sorry for what you have to do it, right. Even those performing Quran. If they haven't performed it, they love to do cipher.
For any case, you know, we left hand with always one person, maybe there's misinformation or maybe that's, you know, that's some safety concern. It's all
part of the journey. No, no. So humbler, we contacted the group leader, we contacted other Ministry of Health personnel, and they all said no, no, say we'll be open Don't worry.
So the hunt for a scissor and the hunt for Baba.
I'll go with the Baba first.
Now because of the restrictions and 100 all the measures that are taken due to Corona, once you finish off on miroir at the top of miroir. On the right hand side is Baba Ali. You have to exit from the gate. When you exit from luggage you go today you will be very sad to be the birthplace of the Prophet Salah cinema, there's now a library and where they used to be the Samsung tubs where you could go and fill up your water. Now in that area, you couldn't take a ride to go back towards muscle home to go to the bubbles because that's
straight to your buses. Correct. So director The bus is now
fretting and this is what I call you. If you don't know
But I don't know what's going to happen if I can't cut my hair because I knew and Mina is some likely there's going to be a lot of it yeah
um do I you know for my life is very easy because sister's cutting down scissors humbler? So she might
this portion of a fingertip from from from all places yeah yeah yeah and I remember that I told you that inshallah you find someone with a shave or someone in the tent will have it now so humble when I went back to the tent that was three years in total outperformed tomato. So we were all looking for trimmer on humblot two older brothers made a lot of work done, they were cutting trimmers, they kindly lent it to us.
And finally, you know, around I think it was 10 o'clock almost 10 o'clock or 1030 we managed to shave our head or to cut it not completely shave it to trim it.
After trimming, trimming, you shower, and then you make your intention again because the eight of
you make your intention for Hajj. And finally, after the whole I slept
Actually, no, that's wrong. I slept just before fortunately, around 11 o'clock I managed to get some new exhaust completely exhausted everyone was exhausted we prayed the whole and then went back to sleep again. And humbleness is from the mercy of Allah that you know the eight of them
you're not doing now you're in Mina and you're supposed to be doing what you're supposed to be doing of God etc but you know shake and shake out Mashallah Welcome to shake out as well.
It's also nice to be able to see but we have
on the on the YouTube stream and Facebook stream and Twitter stream Mashallah tropical island was islands Island. No words? No words.
Albus barakallahu week.
Can you hear us?
Yeah, we can't hear you. I can hear. Can you hear me? Can you hear? Yeah, yeah, I can hear you. We can
carry on with us. Now. So hello, we call the restaurant
has given us this concession were on
you know, you have the opportunity to rest before a very busy day, which is yours a lot of
times before you move on to arafa obviously for our viewers, you have the ad
which is known as your mentor WE ARE WE total we are we from an Arabic perspective, and what our scholars have said has been called that for two reasons. One is because it was it was the day in which the judge would would would gather the water for the Hajj, they would
fill up the water skins, they would get their camels to drink to their food. Last the days of the hedge. They would gather enough water for widow for cooking cooking, because obviously the plains of eggs were not as we know, you know them to be today, whether it's tennis and facilities. I mean, I mean, some form of amenities and facilities back then there was absolutely nothing these were just
they were plane lands. So you would pitch a tent there and you would stay there and even in the Hadith of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam asked for tend to be pitched to him at Nomura. So these places were not set to house people. So today we are refers to this day of water. Another reason that the scholar say regarding your material is that total water comes from raw wheat or wheat,
which refers to
the concept of playing something back back within you within your mind and within your heart. And the reference Ibraheem alehissalaam playing time and time again over and over again, the dream that he saw in the days of age prior to the age of the head on and on the eighth he started playing playing the events back back, am on the ninth, which is the day of alpha, they say arafa carries the meaning of knowing something there on the ninth I knew that this wasn't just a dream Dream, but it was an instruction from Allah subhanho wa Taala for his son. And then on the 10th, which is Yeoman. Now, the day of slaughter is when he attempted to do it. So Yeoman
is the eighth.
I don't know. I would like to add any important information for those listening in regarding
the eighth of the ledger. So I don't really know what what costs mentioned.
With regards to it, I was just caught up here in the mustard. But the eighth of the hijjah is a day to get yourself ready because you need the energy right just like you were saying shut sad.
a lie about feed, you know, getting ready on the eighth of the hijjah, for what to the Prophet sallallahu, it will send them says, you know, hydrographer you need that strength, you need that energy you need your, your, your rest. And sometimes we learned that the hard way I remember the morning of the ninth, when we arrived in out of, I was like, shattered completely. Because you know, leading the group and not having slept and ate properly in the past few days. And, and this was like previous hygiene, I realized, call us now moving forward, I'm actually going to take the eighth as a day to replenish to rest to get myself in that state of mind where, you know, moving forward, I need
to be strong, I need to carry my bag, I need to carry the group I need to carry a lot right now. Somehow the lights not only for the animals to drink the water and to be ready, but it's us as human beings be ready to stand before Allah subhana wa Jalla into our and to pour and cry your heart out to him. So just because
you've highlighted an important thing, because I mean, in terms of us, we've spoken about your material, your what it meant for this to happen.
But in terms of us, we don't have to feed camels and carry water and water skins and we will not do our PrEP is terrestrial. And primarily that's what that's what happened. What happened on the
rest of the night tonight rested the day, it was like you said preparing for what constitutes the head which is which is and
sometimes we see people look down on other people that people you know, like some people are sleeping, resting on and they've started pushing, because it's the days of hedge. And then they look down on those people who are sleeping and you know, say What's wrong with you? Why are you wasting your hydro, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
But in actuality,
there's a lot of comments. I think shut down if you mute your microphone microphone. Maybe that will be
alright, I wasn't getting any echo. So I am hoping it was it was clear. Nice. Nice. Good. Yeah. All right. So we do have some of the the some of the people watching and saying there was a there was an echo. So we find some who judge they look down on others who are resting, sleeping, saying that, look, these people came all the way from their countries, they they've done all of this and Subhanallah they have just sleeping here. Right. But they're just for us to realize brothers and sisters in Islam, that the eighth is a day to prepare for RFR. And if your preps needs you to sleep, then steeping has to be part and parcel of that day. The main thing is that you bring yourself
together when you get too out of hand and just a message to those listening in. Every hedge has a unique experience coming in, coming into into the eight of the hedge. Every hedge has a unique experience. Some people were sick, they got sick, just before the eighth. So they're recovering from an illness. Some people just came in, like brother workers did, he came in on the eighth and he didn't arrive in the day. And now he's he's back in Mena before midday. And that's his hotel and that is everything. You get some people who Mashallah they came way before they had a hotel prior they didn't get sick. Alhamdulillah. So we're able to do it. The point is, the point is, we should
work together on that day, and not accuse
people of anything. Understand that there is wisdom in that day. And that is a day of prep. And if prep means rest, then please do rest. Because the day of arafah is a day and even the time it was deliever because you make your way to was telephone you perform your mother benicia there that's the day where you want to you don't want to say I will you don't want the term being tired to be the excuse for that day.
JazakAllah shekhawat baby
Walker so that was the eighth so you prayed the hug you pray. You pray you pray the Isha. I'm sure you woke up with or when you went back to sleep, perhaps you had something to eat? When did you get into a haram for Hajj on the eighth? When did you take us your intention to get back into the state of your home for the hedge? Because you just came out of the state of your home? Maybe a couple hours? Well, around what 10am 9am? around around 10 3011 Okay, so when did you get back into into the State of Iraq?
I don't remember exactly i think is either just before the huddle just after.
You're very tired. I was
Here's a question for you both actually, when you've been on hardshell side of Corona pandemic time. How many people in attendance
I mean, I've done different I've done with it being super full, uncountable
Many many tents open just one big open place. And I've also done with Dan hedge where Mashallah, we were like just 10 inside inside the tent and there was good space and it was, it was. That's a VIP 10 will ignore the VIP tent. So many, many people uncountable right and checked out how many? Yeah, we're usually about 100 150 in 110. Now, so guess how many people this year per 10, six, for between faultily between four to eight. So the the maximum was a Mashallah due to obviously the pandemic humbler, they really went out of the way to partition the tents and also the partition each bed. So between the beds, they had partitions.
And hamdulillah. You know, they took all the precautions that were necessary. They sanitized, cleaned all the common areas frequently.
It really was very comfortable. And it was completely different to the highs that I did over 10 years ago.
So it was
it was like an ombre basically, you could say, you could say, during the quiet times during the quiet times. Absolutely. Absolutely. So humbled. That was a good experience. And
the one thing you know, I said I will touch upon Minar and why I felt I needed to go through things related to me now because I really feel the previous time that I went for her. I really feel I didn't make the most of Mina.
And both of you will know the shutdown doesn't leave you just because you're on Hutch. Right? He is going to do his absolute best to mess up your heart. He's going to do everything
to try to make sure that this heart is not accepted that what you're doing, you will try to distract you he will try to play with your Nia you really question your sincerity at times. You know Am I really doing this for the sake of Allah and the bottom line is Hajj you know, you can go through why we do things in which why we post seven times and there's reasons behind this energy you're doing it for sake of Allah because Allah subhanaw taala has commanded it on the Prophet salla salaam tortures to do Hajj, right.
So the shaitaan doesn't leave you be in Minaj Amara talofa wherever you are, and unfortunately, I think you guys you know, would be better placed to give examples of this, a lot of us tend to waste time and manner. You know, it can be general church, because there's so many brothers around us. And we've never met many of these people before in our life. So you want to get to know them.
hours would go by we spent talking
so I really wanted to make sure that I didn't do that this time. I really wanted to make sure that I made the most of Minar and I utilize my time in making the car reciting the Quran doing Avada or Luxor learning going through my HUD books etc making sure I was prepared for all of our demographic etc.
And I think this is you know, this is one of my advices to anyone listening and hoping to go for HUD Minar you you will be tempted to waste time and it's very easy to waste time on it's very easy unfortunately to also to get into arguments and as we know the famous IR for hedge fund alpha will have some cover logic
The first part is very easy right now if you're married because your wife is not with you so hamdulillah sadly
offer sukawati that these are very difficult These are words with you but she's using a different a different type.
So I will do the deceit of the I will leave that
but the other two points I think check out and check started you can touch upon those one last one with Allah means by the facade candidat and how people can easily fall into those and men and outside men as well.
I think that's one of the biggest problems that I was getting mentioned as well with regards to Mina
a lot of hurt judge get to Mina and it feels like the party is starting. You know you're in it tend to feels rustic. You know, at first it's like a shock camp right? You're in a camp. Yeah, you come from, you know, your the comfort of your home, then you go to the comfort of the air prilling and then the comfort of a hotel and you're spoiled because you're at the bottom and then all of a sudden you get to mid on you're like whoa, okay, the air conditioning isn't so good or it's too good. But then it just feels like like you're camping. Exactly, you know, as you said,
and then people start to chill and you notice late at night when we're telling our group you know go to sleep or waking you up before Fages to get on the bus to go to autofit for example, or there's a possibility of that. So panela people that are like having coffee in the middle of the night and
And what happens is that, that snowballs or there's a chain reaction into constantly chilling and destroying or taking away from your time and out of where you need that, that energy to give to a lost family to add so many turns into a party sometimes, and a lot of time can be wasted because you're in a group
where you know, people like, okay, let's take the microphone and tell stories and Subhanallah it's like, a lot of wasted time. Now, let me get easy. It's an it's an interesting point, you should share that with one thing I will just say is, there's nothing wrong in introducing yourself to each other, because some of the best friendships happen over there. And it's brotherhood for the sake of Allah subhanho wa Taala. But you don't have to get to know everything about each other at that moment, you can plant the seed, and then let it grow, you know, over the days, and over the weeks after, and after you get back home, and so on and so forth, especially with technology today. And
globalization, even if you met someone from another part of the world, it's very possible to keep in touch and develop yourself, which if they would touched on something important, and this is something I would think about as well. It's the microphone and the lessons that take place, because many groups do try and create
an enemy kind of atmosphere as well, during during the days of hedge. So you have the eight people are there. And then you have the microphone, you have the speakers and lectures are happening competitors, moussaka, or competition might happen. And some people are trying to raise some people are genuinely tired. And obviously you can't block this thing up. Nobody told him they need to have like, EMF, so these air cancellation headphones, as it beats or Bose or whatever it is. Nobody's told him this. In fact, you're told not to sort of take valuables with you because there's no guarantee right? Don't tempt people to do things they shouldn't do during the hedge. So how do you I
mean, share that with the new experience when you've you've gone for hedge? How do you sort of plan out the the lectures and the competitions and the q&a the first hour, which is also important, you want to have to have you want to give a chance for people to openly ask questions and get the answers. Before you get to two out of a D Do you take into consideration when you plan this thing out that we have 500 people 400 people with us some groups are massive. And there's people who want to sleep, there's people who don't want to sleep, there's people who want to stretch, they don't want to be in the tent? How what process do you guys do to ensure that you run the events in a way
that's most conducive, and least harm harmful? If I could put it that way? Yeah, it's a matter of having a proper schedule. So for example, our group, we do have that, you know, like a conference or a series of lectures, we'll ask other, you know, Michelle, from from groups to come over those that are close by in their tents. And what we'll do is we'll set a specific schedule for the entire day. So every single day, in the morning, our judge will receive on their phone, a WhatsApp message with a schedule for the entire day, what we're doing at what time and so on. And we take into consideration the fact that even the Messiah from the time to rest. So usually up until Monday is
when we're gonna have activities and stuff in the tent, after we pray moment of inertia is generally when supper is served. And then we say, you know what, an hour after a shot, you have to eat, and then an hour later lights out. And if anyone wants to speak or talk or Converse, will you step out of the tent. But please try to respect the fact that when lights are out, it means Be quiet. So we kind of do it like like you're in school lights out means silence, you know, be respectful of other people's time. And generally people follow the people follow through. Yeah, generally, yes. But you have to be very strong as a team. So like our hedge group, we have two teams, we have the logistics
team, that the Imams do not look after whatsoever. And then yeah, that humans like I will look after only the religious stuff myself on their body. Yeah, and check with Sam and whoever else comes along.
And we never, you know, we never cross lines. So if a person in the group comes and asks me, what time do we have to get up in order to catch the bus? I will not answer it. Even if I know the answer to it. I'll say go and speak to the logistics guys. And what happens there is the logistics guys will they will be responsible for shutting the lights. And so no one will get upset with the machete or the Imams, and they won't hold the emails responsible for too strict. It's the logistics people. So our our group owner likes to keep the level of respect for the exams very high. And nothing should ever jeopardize that and it's a really good system that works. Well. Show me Show me Show me
go ahead and close now. So I think just one point before you want to 9000
humbler this year I don't know. I think
Usually in the past, some groups do this as well, but there was a lot of goodies already waiting for you. And so as soon as you got a minute, you have things like umbrellas, you had cooling funds, you had umbrellas, you could put a water bottle in and they would call you once you you know, walk into a democratic cetera. And fortunately for those who hadn't brought on perfume, toiletries, there was also a bag of toiletries that as well.
And of course, with that whole wipes, sanitizers all of these things were also given for free as well. And so the humbler the you know, this was a nice touch by the Ministry as well as the groups so that that was good from them.
So now let's move on to ninth of the ledger.
So after somebody voice is very low is my voice okay?
somebody commented the voice is very low I can understand. I can hear you clearly are hungry. Okay, good. Okay.
It's on Instagram so it may have been checked out voice
so the nice little hedge after fudger we started preparing just before that since you mentioned Instagram Sorry guys. I'm going to be my hand is going to come in front of the camera a little bit because I'm just checking some of the comments someone said I did hedge two years ago with with the hedge group. And the mean that tent is such that you can't stick your leg or arm out left to right when sleeping. Laugh out loud. Okay. I used to be Yeah, that's that's how we remember it before the pandemic that's that's an answer to your question. How busy how food do you remember the tend to be humbler this year? You can stick your arms legs, whatever you want you and have space to put luggage
and table and the chair Mashallah, you know, it was it was it there was enough space
checked out, touched upon this earlier and I think you mentioned this as well shake.
The Prophet salla salaam said Alhaji. Right? So
the heydays of a show shows you the importance of the day a word of
the day modifies the climax of the peak of it if you've missed out if you miss touch, right as is the opinion of many scholars. I'm not sure whether there's a difference of opinion on this but you know, from what I've read, this is ideally eight out of is a pillar from the pillars of hedge if you miss alpha, you've missed the hedge. Yeah, so
we set off early I think it's about seven o'clock in the morning we got to alpha and as you know in alpha
we have tents so that was still in place where for Georgia foreign to attend. And that's where you conduct most of you but on that day
the stunning and artifact begins after door
after slaughter after as well as past and you prayed your salon the hotbed of what was being conducted as well.
Up until then, you know, you should relax, get ready, because you should be making the wall from Dover all the way to Madrid. That's that's the time of standing in alpha.
Now there are you know, times people rush to get to the level
and even climb the rock. And I think she will mentioned something about this. But the Prophet sallallahu Sallam he stood by the side of a rock I didn't actually climb, the hill of Jebel Rama standing was with his animal. his belly was placed near the rocks, which you can see some of the rocks there. I don't know if these can't see the whole image of these rocks of juparana or rocks. Before the actual job
is the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said walk off to her who were called out of her mind he said I've stood here but all of our of our is a place of standing. Yeah, yeah. And, uh, you know, scholars advice, and even your HUD groups, they usually advise you, they say, you know, don't bother, don't tie yourself out, trying to get a job rock climbing Deborah, during normal normal circumstances. And the reason for that is you should really reserve your energy for sending in our family can go from door all the way to Maghreb.
Now this year, because the numbers were less, some people were easily able to get out of Java Rama and stand beside it now for myself, because, you know, I was involved in a mini documentary. So the brothers Mashallah the lab lesson they said, we're going to double wrap up before Dr. And Hamdulillah, may Allah bless them, you know, they never interfered with my brother. So they didn't fail me that didn't bother me. After the war on your Malala Fund, similarly, for Jamaat etc. They agreed to all the conditions they said, Look, you know, when it comes to a bother, we're not going to ask you to do anything extra. We're not going to bother you when it's time for a bother so
We were fortunate that they managed to let the viewers You know, you're talking about the hedge documentary you participated in. And this hedge documentary
you being or you having a camera crew with you from before you left rehab. And then when you got to Makkah and at the different places of the hedge, and I did see some clips on YouTube, Masha, Allah where you were, you're being interviewed. So you're talking about this crew, the camera crew, when you say the team, you mean the camera crew? The camera crew? Yeah. Right. So the camera crew Didn't they didn't affect your eba in any capacity, humble of identity did ask from you to participate in some recording. So on the day of alpha before midday, they, they they wanted to record you Right, so so go ahead. So I think this worked out really well, because the time of sending in our files, as we
mentioned is after Docker. So they they took them a while, but they managed to get access to Wi Fi before because they wanted to see what level Rama was sealed off. Is that what you're saying?
It wasn't it wasn't completely sealed off. So you couldn't climb.
Early in the morning. They had barriers.
But it was sealed off to vehicles. And we were traveling in a media vehicle. So they had to get out. If I could just hold you brother because Are you moving on? on on the YouTube feed because it seems like frozen?
I don't know.
I think you can be heard though. I think you can be heard though. There you are. Alright, we can
go ahead, we can see you know, you can see you back, you're back on came down the mountain. Hey. So people weren't able to get to level off before the horse. I did see some people that when we got there however for our because we were traveling in a media vehicle. They needed to get authorization. And there's multiple levels of authorization. Even after gaining the authorization, we have to go through checkpoints on hamdulillah. At the end of the day, we managed to get into Morocco. And when we got to Wi Fi the brothers wanting to take a few shots on For me it was special because
during my previous Hajj I hadn't managed to get this close to the Morocco. I hadn't actually still decided you know, so for me to be standing in the vicinity of where the prophets Allah Salaam stood, and the address the companions. That was emotional for me. And there was something really, really special and there was only like 100 or 200 people there. So you can imagine a heart, a lot of space could just stand there and just imagine
the Prophet salla salaam delivering the final sermon. And if you reflect upon the words of the final sermon, and you imagine, this is where you know, nearby, this is where the Prophet salla salaam stood on the address the companions
it really touches your heart. And that's something that can't be bought, you know, you can visit out of outside of HUD, you can do zero, outside of hardware smell the same feeling to be stood in that place on that day.
And to imagine what the prophet salla salamander companies would have felt on that day, something special. And that's something I'll stay in my heart for a long time.
So that you know that
Allah subhanaw taala gave me the opportunity. And you know, I'm really thankful the way things worked out because I had absolutely zero plans of going to,
you know, I before going for her journey, you know, made it in my heart. My intention was to stay in the camp, and to still make into Austria after that. I didn't want to waste any second, I didn't want to tie myself out. And you know, the amazing thing was when we got Wi Fi in the morning around 10 o'clock, I think it was on 930 it started to rain.
And I remember saying this on the camera and they didn't include this find the documentary setswana love is stood next to Deborah ruffman and Murphy.
You know, that was a special moment. For sure. I don't want to cut you but you are frozen again on screen. I think you are having connection issues. It seems to be a connection issue, but we can't hear you. I'm sure. You can you can hear right.
Yeah, I can hear him properly. His videos. Yeah, it's just a slur. I just
I mean, look just for sharing because
I mean, we advise the court judge, stay in your tent. Don't get lost. Don't go you don't know where the mountain is. You don't know where you went out of the last thing you want is to go get lost or find your way back and then your whole
day is spoiled. And some people still go
and you can't understand why on earth. Can you know can people just follow the instruction follow good advice, advice based on experience. And I guess after you shed what
I guess, you know,
a bit of sympathy needs to be I need these things to fill the seat the scenario where, you know, you don't sort of lay in you know, you don't be too heavy handed with people who's just want to go because I guess they want to feel what you felt especially if it's the first hedge and they know the profitsystem was there and the companions were there and it was on that day and this is the day and you just want to be then you want to soak it in. You want to soak it all up. So clearly inshallah but I mean, I don't want this to be a license for people to still get lost and waste the whole day of alpha. Because alpha is massive. And obviously you guys were 60,000 in numbers. So you are
situated close to the mountain. I believe they even put you in Nam era as well. For the hood bias. Is that true? Will you switch over to us because you are stuck?
Now I'm not sure why it was it was perfectly fine. Your connection also seems okay. Yeah, connection is fine. Yeah. I'm just going to I'm going to freeze you out for a second and bring you back in I think that helps. I mean, I'm reading
maybe it's on your side.
What are the common saying
check out my frozen Yeah, you're frozen for me as well Masha.
It's okay. I could stare at you all day. It's fine.
So sorry, what? I would say I missed that. Are you frozen or not? Yeah, I'm frozen for Shake, shake. Yeah, you are you're frozen. You're frozen but your your your links okay. Okay, you're back you're back you're back at home. So I keep coming and going yeah, just keep moving your head so we know you're not you you're there
babe no does what I'm saying to our viewers and I'm sure people watch this thereafter. And some hedge groups will share this later with you know, next year what I'm what I want to say to Hajaj is no doubt base the the the emotion aspect, but we also have to be pragmatic and practical when you there with 2 million people and the planes of Africa are packed to the brim. And it's all tented, it is very easy to get lost. Okay, now they're coming up with technology to try and track who judge and they are talking about these wrist bands that you will wear and through it, you'll get mobile tracking, and you'll be able to, you know, use Google to find your way etc. That will help that will
end if that's there, and it works and there's no glitches, then fine, you know, go ahead. But remember, you don't want to tire yourself. Sometimes you very far away and taking the walk to Java Rama in under the sun that you're not used to being under and then getting back it could impact you negatively for the period between the horse and sorry, midday and mahari where you really want to be dedicating yourself with all your mind and all your power and all your concentration all your heart and all your, your yourself your enough's
in front of Allah subhanho wa Taala so just be pragmatic and be practical. I think that wood wants to wants to wants to add something as well. Yeah, if I could say something that's absolutely true and right and I think there's there's a few things we need to keep in mind for those of us that go for Hajj regularly, like * Sajid and I, you know, we've been there multiple times to
a lot of the time we forget the sentiments of our groups, our group members, and how this is probably the one and the only time in their life that they will ever come here. And for them to make that extra sacrifice in their minds, they're thinking to themselves, I have the opportunity now to go if I don't go, I may regret this for the rest of my life. But at the same time, what I always advise group members to keep in mind is we will come either after hedge on zero with the bus, so you will go to see the mountain or prior to Hajj. And this is what we did the last year we went, we took the group before Hajj before the days of Hajj on this era, and they went to Jabba Rama, and they got
to stand there. And I mentioned exactly what you know, what cos was saying is that, you know, the these steps that you take could be the places where the Sahaba were standing the profits on along it was selam may have stepped in the same place you're standing right now. So they get that out of their system. But they also have to keep in mind the the group members that we are concerned about their safety, as well as their performance on the day of alpha. Give a simple example as much as we have a GPS tracking even with our phones now with with you know, Google Maps hamdulillah it's made it so much easier for people to go and come back or judge are not used to the heat in Saudi. Right.
And so they think, oh, we can go and we'll we'll be fine. We'll bring a bottle of water. We had one group member who said I'm going to do this I'm not I'm going to walk so
When our bus left before funjet, from Mina, he walked from Mina to our tent in auto FDA. And he got lost along the way, because he went to Jebel Atlanta as well. And he arrived back at 4pm to our tent, and he was on the brink of heatstroke, he was completely exhausted. And this is a brother who like runs triathlons and does all this, you know, super sports, extreme sports. He was literally about to be taken to the hospital. And so when he got to the tent at 4pm, he was exhausted and burnt out. And he just put his head down and slept and only woke up at MCC on the day of Ananda. So he like wasted his whole day, just because you're going to be zealous and walk. And so he realized at
that point, From then on, he listened to every single instruction that our group leaders were telling him because he said, You guys have done this for years. And you are actually telling us what is best for us, despite us having emotional intentions to do things. You guys know what's best for us. So I'm going to do what you say to do. A lie. Right? Right. Keep that in. That's a live example. And I'll and it's important that you highlighted that is he sees himself as fit. Because that's how that's what happens if people say no, you don't know I'm fit. I'm a triathlon. I'm with this. I'm aware. But it's just circumstance. It's your circumstance. shape.
Yes, I think you may want to invite the viewers on Instagram to come on YouTube, because they're missing out on shape. doubts, words, Mashallah. They can't hear so when checked out speak says your silence for them? Oh, yeah, I'm not sure if they're picking it up from my, if the guys on Instagram can hear. Or shafter we can I don't know if we can take three people on a call on Instagram Live? I don't know.
Should we ever Yeah, I always thought it would was set for one hour. But Marcia lights, it's going on two hours. So
if they would send me a request, I'll add him here as well. And that would definitely
help those on Instagram.
By worker so so this is the 932. So go on, going. So like I said, humble myself on the crew, the documentary crew, we went to Jebel Rama, they fill the past that they needed to film, I, you know, did what I needed to do. And then after that, they wanted to go to a muscle, no matter. So, you know, this shiksa due to the numbers, and due to the way we were split up in the 10s, you know, eight people and then whole area had about four groups. So you had about 300 people in one area, which is very different four minutes.
It didn't really feel like the Hodge atmosphere. You know, if you know what I mean, you know, in terms of the number of people being there on the bus, and the noise and everything it was missing. Now, when we go to the cinema,
I remember walking towards my cinema, and this is well before though, all of a sudden behind us.
Loud, they'll be loud, really, really loud. And we turned around the crew myself, we turn around and we see we saw a sea of people walking towards my cinema. And that felt like, you know, fanola We were so overjoyed to see 1000s of people walking and all reciting that they'll be
you know, literally all the camera people they went to that direction started filming started taking photos, and also happy with the smiling from one end to the other. You know, that really made me feel like I mean, you guys were unhedged? Really even without that scene, but again, this emotional aspect that Yeah, about it to feel to feel the moment. Absolutely, absolutely. For our viewers, when I had you across the tell via he means the break with urgency, the big moment a big further now. So.
Now, initially, I thought in the morning, Mussina media would be full. And as you know, even our group, they said, you know, it's up to you if you want to go in the beginning. They they said, you know, we're not allowed to take up a rock, no Mussina meter. And then I saw some people going, by the time we go to the cinema, it was a movie photo. And that was, you know, like I said, there was a sea of people screaming towards the muscle.
And I remember advising my wife saying, don't go to my cinema.
Because at that point, I didn't know how far it was. And also I thought it'd be full. But once we actually go inside the muscles on us, so the number of people you know, I felt the need to apologize to my wife and I said, you know, the temptation to she could get to my scenario and she ignored my advice. And she did come to my cinema.
sorry, say that again. She ignored you advice and she was already there. Yeah, humbler?
At least at least you're already sharing advice. So she didn't do anything wrong. She didn't break any rules. No, no.
And, you know, again, she is number one is emotional number two, it could be that we'll only perform Hajj once in our lifetime, you know, for many people that may not get this opportunity again. And I think for majority of people on highs this year, they probably will not get the opportunity to perform hard with 60,000 people only, of course, so they can easily get everything.
So it's very, you know,
this was her first hedge. Yeah, yeah. All right. So for her, it was a special moment. She got the job aurasma experience without the stress of being lost and being tired. She got the message Nebula and all this in a heartbeat, no stress and back on time to do the work of handler handler. And, you know, again, other people as well that wanted to go to my cinema and
again, the advice was there from the group leader saying you know, don't tie yourself follow etc. But you can see that the desire from the people wanting to emulate the professor lesson, you know, the Sunnah.
Even though last one with Allah has made everything so easy for us on Yama Latifah. As you mentioned, the processen sat down standing here but the whole of modifies the place of strengthening. But people have that desire to emulate the Sunnah we want to pray much anomala we want to go to Morocco. We want to get there. And you know, humbler? If you if people really want to go to geograph now
my advice to some of the people who asked me I told them on your way to development make sure you don't waste any time talking. Make sure you're making your dream the crown you know, the best thing to say on your monitor
is all I can see right
Yeah, what's happened to your video? Of course on PC, it's
it's frozen again. No, it's always become the image become jibberish as well. Nearly. Yeah, I think I'll get feedback from the YouTube commenters is the video clear or not? Because all the commenters disagree with you guys. So I'm not sure whether it's on your end or it's on YouTube, then.
What do you want to switch your camera off and on again? To try I can try that.
I don't know what's happened. It's
the images because
now it's the images. It's all What do you call the ship that would pixelated, pixelated. Okay, so we got the first comment on YouTube saying it's okay for us. Tell us if it's okay for the for them. That's the main thing for them. We got another one. Okay, good. So like I was saying, my advice, check out that just joined and left us on Instagram. What happened she left us
you know what it is? The Saudi internet connection. Right.
Good check back what's happened
so what I was saying, obviously you're on your way to Wi Fi. If you really want to go there. Make sure you don't waste any moment make sure you're you know making the DA and the prophets Allah Salaam said the best of what I am the prophets before me said I'm paraphrasing This or this you can give the full of this year is La la la la la, la la, la la condition Khadija so so will make you do the woof. When you do the woof woof doesn't mean you standing, which means you have manifested yourself out of you could be lying down you could be sitting you could be standing.
Or Cove means a manifestation of of the pilgrim on the plains of Africa. That's what rokoff means. And you worship Allah subhanho wa Taala in Doha, in Vickery. So you spend part time asking, part time praising and it also could be a mixture, where you praising and then you asking and then you praising? And the best praise is La ilaha illa Allah Allah, Allah, Allah Allah, Allah will have the whole Allah condition
as you as you mentioned, but also that SB Subhan Allah hamdu Lillah wa ala ilaha illa Allah Allahu Akbar. Also the Tobia it's still the point of tilby Allah bei kolomela bakerella big luxury Kala Kala big so all this is, is part and parcel of it. I know some people say how do we just keep our hands up for three hours, four hours? And you know, we then we stopped we've asked Allah for everything, right? So how should it be and the idea is to ask to praise to ask seek forgiveness, to ask and to go about the process like this until mercury arrives not to be off your phones of that which gives you any distractions, and you just dedicate yourself to Allah subhanho wa Taala as if
you've made yourself a walk, you will doubt yourself that no one
Has ownership of you besides Allah subhanho? wa Taala for that period? So you did the woof. Until mohareb? Yeah, they kept you there. Tell me, tell me, how do you feel at my job? And how did you I feel at my crib.
You know, it's one of your modifies, is the day that are really planful. And I wanted to make sure that I utilize it to absolute max, I mentioned, you know, the mistakes I made a minute in the previous site, but out of our really wanted there to be no distractions, I wanted to utilize every single minute every single second. And this is one reason why I said I wasn't going to go into Iraq now, after they've
sorted to spend those hours in honor of pouring your heart out to the last one with Allah. And I was very fortunate. In the sense, a lot of the people from my tent, they'd actually gone to the other athma, or they were outside. And, you know, there was only about three or four of us in the tent out of the space in the tent was for maybe 80 people or so.
And that really helped because you could really go into a corner. And it's just you and you pour your heart out to Allah subhanaw taala you're not showing off to anyone, you know, if the tears flow from your eyes, you're not doing it, to tell the person you know, I'm so pious etc, is literally between you and Allah. And that really, really, I can relate to what you saying I meaning I can appreciate what you're saying, not related. Because when you say you can have a corner by yourself, because normally there's so many people around you that you Although to in all honesty, on the day of arafah Subhanallah, you find everyone just interested in themselves, they don't care what the
next person is doing, Who's crying, who's doing what you find everyone in their own shot. But it does dawn upon you at different times in the day when you're doing your garden, someone's passing or someone's looking at you that Subhanallah that person is noticing me is this Ria is is a form of showing off so I can appreciate what you saying that would the 60 60,000 hedge, you practically had the space to yourself. handler handler. So
I mean, obviously out of those tie you on the show tie you up. If it doesn't tie you out and you've been sleeping the day, then you really wasted your heart.
so humbled lava, you know, by the
use of it.
In some cases where people have slept or eaten, you know what class in today's day and age, they say you being judgmental, stop judging me.
I prep my group in advance. And I tell them at the heart when we're doing the clip by or even before the clip. And out of I tell them I say Listen, you came for hedge for this. Right. And I have my spray bottle, right little misting spray bottle. And I asked permission from all 300 people in the group, right brothers and sisters because we have like sisters who in their tents. You know, there's
volunteers or staff, I should say that are on that. I know you're gonna say people on Instagram can't hear me. So now
try to rejoin Instagram.
But I tried to actually if I can add him
to a different location in the masjid. And hopefully, the internet is stronger there for that because the Saudi connection is contagious. This is Canadian connection.
So what I was saying is like I prep our group
for the day of our alpha, and I tell them that if I find you sleeping, do you give me permission to
work class? Can you hear me? Yeah. Okay. Do you give me permission to spray mist misted water in your face? wake you up. And Subhanallah every single person in the group is completely fine with it. They're like, you know, we paid for this. We came for this, we're okay with it. And you're our leader. We're perfectly fine with you doing this to us. So some kind of law, it's, you know, something that works with our group and the law. And the other thing is like, I always tell them, You can't run out of things to say on autopilot. If you do, it's because you're not thinking deep enough. You're not thinking of the fabrics of your life. Like, you know, think of the fine details
in every single aspect of your life in your children's life and your parents life and everything that's going on. And you'll find that at the end of the day of alpha, you run out of time before you run out of things to ask the last panel data for
and so Pamela That to me is a reality of it.
If I could just
if I can just add something to what she said. And that is
you need to have a balance there's nothing I mean if you look at the the hours of the Quran and Sunnah you find that the general not specific aeroburner attina for dunya, Hassan and hessonite entails everything you you you intend.
So I just want to highlight this so that those who don't feel they have the capacity to sort of
take the the thoughts about things to a micro level that they shouldn't feel disadvantaged. Because Allah
Allah tells us in the Quran about the Hajaj they say Robin Athena for dunya has no Ophelia clarity has an open either but not. So this has Santa entails everything that is has and everything that is good, even if we don't know it to be good.
So that's there, but also, you know, even if you if you if you just took a break from asking, and you spend time praising let's say you sat and you 1000 times you said Subhan Allah who would be handy Subhana Allah Hildy.
Or, for example, 1000 times 10,000 times 5000 times there's no limit to this gap. You said a struggle for Allah for example. Or you said La la la la hula Sheree Calhoun Morocco and I will have the hora Allah conditions but the rooster Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said is the best to add that he and any messenger said on this day so you made you do you felt content with your daughter and now you stop making do I but it doesn't mean you stop making do or that you do nothing.
You read some Quran oh you do this decree there's no limit to it. If there's a limited you have enough to say you have enough to keep your tongue moist with until sunset and you'll see that if you if you be dynamic in your approach whilst you're doing this Kerala will open to us upon your heart you'll find some handle it to ask Allah about this. You take a break you raise your hands now you start making into alpha that thing. When you're done then you can you carry on. So that that's the process. That's the process in the end and another thing I see people tiring themselves with on the days the Duan book, the logbook, logbooks name, surname, passport number, date of birth address. All
right, not that detail, name and surname. And you don't have to be spending an hour two hours lm asking you for this person and this person and this person and this person. This is not how do i is made or what we know in terms of the sooner of the day, even if you say yeah, Allah, I asked you for myself and everyone in my logbook. And you pick certain people who you feel your heart, your heart's desire to mention by name, this suffices. Allah knows everyone in your logbook better than you know yourself. Some people spend Subhanallah this time doing this. And they haven't asked Allah for anything yet. They mentioning names one hour, two hours. Hey, brother, have you started making sure
I'm still including the list that I have. So this is not from the son of the dilettante. Throw that in there, in case anyone is on this portion, and going for Hydra one day or even for Amara for that matter. Or Generally, we don't have to spend so long into tiring ourselves also, insert a condition for do it, raise your hands. Sara condition you could be if your hands are tired, you can have your hands down and you could be speaking to Allah subhanho wa Taala and asking from Allah subhanho wa Chad, so I just wanted to share, share these ideas. share that with anything else to add about that.
No, I think that was I mean, that's always something that I mentioned as well. You know, seeing the duality that the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam would say a loss kind of kinda opens your heart. So when you're taking that break, when you are, you know, using that time to
learn, I think this work
so we can see you on Instagram now.
When you're requesting from Allah Subhana Allah, you know, in, in your, your,
your heart opens up in your mind opens up to so many other apps. The generality of door is so important. I am totally against these do our books, not just the log book, but people spend. I remember one brother, he said for the last 11 months, he made intention the previous year, it was the last 11 months. He's been writing down two hours that he wants to ask when he comes for auto fun. So I asked him I said how many times in the last year did you make these two to Allah subhanaw taala. He said I didn't I've been waiting for our phones. And I asked him I said what if you died the day before you came to autofill you will never ask the last penalty data for these things.
Right? So you know, do all that comes from the heart whatever you feel immediately asked for it. And we forget the power of Allah subhana wa Jalla This is why in solo we say Tina dunya has no athlete. It has no Athena either. No, no
Like comprises everything that we need. And the worst thing shifts as it is when people don't just stick to the logbook, they actually take a picture of themselves, either making the drive for those people there in front of the cab, and they take a picture of their logbook with the person's name on it and sit on social media and it's like, this is Yeah, this is this is a lot of the time alone, understand this is it where you know, and sometimes you get someone to take your picture. So you posing the on out of and then it goes out this is these are things that are needed Allah subhanho wa Taala knows that you they, and this is the time to lose the shallowness and to be a person of
substance and connect to Allah subhanho wa Taala, irrespective of the perception of the world and the approval or disapproval. And that's from the great lessons of hedge, to go to the hedge and come back knowing that your self worth is based on how pleased your Lord is with you. Not the people around you from the deeper inner meanings of the processes of the hedge. It's really a it's not just a spiritual journey. It's it develops you mentally, physically, socially,
spiritually, it has all these elements in but you just have to ponder, ponder these things. Because it sort of strips you down right? To to a white cloth, white, upper garment, white lower garment, everybody's the same. Irrespective of your financial standing, your material well being your color, your creed, your ethnic background, your language, everyone is standing on our offer. And they all want the same thing. Your original Rahmatullah way of showing that they want Allah's mercy and they fear his punishment, nobody's billions, is in front of him that he cares about at that moment, nobody's lack of billions, nobody's health or lack of health, everybody is there, as the servant of
Allah subhanho wa Taala, Seeking Safety from Ghana and enters into paradise and safety in the grave, to have a bless a death and to you know, have safety when in when you stand in front of Allah on the day of gamma, and even protection from having to stand in front of Allah to seek immediate entrance into into alpha dos. And I guess these are some of the things I'd like to you know, this is a question I have for you, of course, at the end that you know, in terms of life lessons from from the hedge that you've been on, what can you share
with the public, but I'm conscious that we've gone over over two hours, and we need we need to move on to the remainder of the days, we don't rush, obviously. Just to keep
going very quick point regarding the US. So one of the things that I do, I don't know whether you guys would advise This is anybody who asked me to move the law for them, I say, you know, I make the law for them. And I say, well, law, please accept that I just was so I tell the person have made the law except to the US. So it's upon you now to make the say, in a way encouraging them to make the offer themselves. So I don't know whether that's something you would recommend?
Yeah, that is that what you did with with me?
You always you had the logbook? So it was
because you sent me a long message. So I made sure I went in the logbook. And when I checked out you don't know this were near the end, or what have she excited actually called me to make sure I made that. And I said I've made multiple times, but I'll make it one more time. Just because you've called me so humble, and checked out. Don't worry, I made well for yourself. You're like
you know, you're already dear to me. So
you can hear me now? Yeah, yeah, we'll accept your do and accept your offer and your wife's our offer and the alpha of the believers.
So what was the feeling?
You were pushing, pushing, pushing, you're looking at your watch, you were like Subhanallah, five minutes to go four minutes to go three minutes to I don't know, if you did that.
funnel, I think everyone made full use of every single second until the ban was made.
Every single person that was stood there with the hands race,
taken advantage of every single second.
And you know, once it's over, it's
I don't know how to describe the feeling shame is number one is a feeling of relief that was one with Allah allowed you to meet in that place on this day,
doing something which is beloved to him. And on the other hand, you you know that there is the sense in your heart, whether the actions that you've done that day rather than be accepted. And you know, for the remainder of the hedge your doors and your thoughts
on your request to allies that he accepts the righteous deeds that you've done during her journey but ultimately accepts your heart.
Until today, you know, my every single day I still make the
promise for myself, my wife and all local Georgia this year because we're lucky nobody truly knows whether you were sincere in the actions that you did during the winter.
Speaking I remember the verse in the Quran will Latina you told them when Latina tuna matto or kulu boom YG Allah Subhana Allah and Noemi la Robbie Mirage Iran
in Surah tomino Allah subhana wa Taala discusses those who Allah subhanaw taala blesses them with what with how Allah bless you. But Globo modular. They, they, they don't know if I was going to accept it and because they know that they're gonna return to Allah subhanho wa Taala. And
you know, the Sahaba asked about this that Who is this referring to? Or the students of the Sahaba asked, when they were taught this lesson now who is who is this referring to, and was referring to the companions of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam. So Allah was referencing them, they are those who they pray that gives us aka the fast the, the guard for Jihad with Guru boomanji that they constantly they don't doubt they have good hope in Allah subhanho wa Taala. But at the same time, they don't guarantee sanctity and safety and success in the hereafter. They don't know. Right? And this is important that you not knowing doesn't mean that you should not have good thoughts about
Allah subhanho wa Taala rather, the fact that Allah hasn't given you the result that it's been accepted
is for you to worship him after you worship Him through having good thoughts about it. That makes sense. Evidence if Allah told you just Masha Allah waka Haji Muhammad will pass your days been accepted.
You have no reason to have good thoughts about our loving
and personal than is a form of a bed. It's a form of worshipping Allah subhanho wa Taala. You get rewarded for it. So you did our offer. Then at the end of our offer, you felt what you felt but you had hope in Allah that is accepted from you. That's bonus. Right? That's a bonus round of worship. That's more rewards for you. Does that make sense? So you you got to mohareb and you want to hug people? Right, but it's coronas. You can't hug any?
Hugs? Yeah. Virtual hugs.
so humble, as you know, after,
after Madrid, everybody's preparing to go to Metallica. And if you're you know, in previous years, if you're unfortunate, you could be waiting for your boss until midnight, because it really is busy. And
that we're limited in terms of how many roads that are. But humble again, one of the advantages this year after Margaret, we were in was 35. Within about one hour. It took us about an hour and we were in Missouri for on the law.
So reaching Missouri.
If you imagine in the previous years when you get to Metallica,
there's a sea of people laid out in the open. And a woman it always makes this joke and it sticks in my mind. I just want to briefly share it with you. He says when people go for Hajj, they always ask you what star hotel we're going to be staying in until they get to Metallica. And when they get to verify it's a million style hotel, because you're looking at the sky and all you see stars somos edifies, the unique experience.
And, you know, you think that getting out of out of when you're laying on the ground, you would think it'd be very difficult to sleep. But honestly if you've tied yourself out, and you've really made the most A lot of you can easily know kind was that if it doesn't matter if there's a million people talking, you will sleep in Metallica and Metallica. Again, you know his his mercy from Allah subhanaw taala is given us a chance to rest resolves. And the following day is a busy day as well as you know, now this year due to Corona
it was decided that people would start leaving was relief after half past midnight. So once half of the night had passed, people would believe was alpha. So we were woken up around one o'clock I think I'm told that our boss is ready and we're going to dinner now generally checks I didn't check out those you know this. This exception is only made for the weak, the elderly, and sometimes women. But of course due to the exceptional circumstances this year. This was applied to other Hajaj as well.
So that in a nutshell that was Missouri fire We prayed Maghrib and Isha in Missouri for short and uncombined as as this summer so we didn't pray mcgriddle shy in an alpha we prayed and was alpha
in Gemini short and uncombined. And after we rested and one o'clock we all woken up to head into the buses but terminar
pneumonia so so basically you you went what Sakina from was deliever
To sorry from arafa tumors deliver now right that's very easy. He was advised in the hadith of January he said that he held the reins of cassava so tight that the head of us went all the way back that he touched he could touch part of the saddle to handle all this to keep costs were moving as low as possible.
Big and then he told this compact a second to second Alright, so keep it calm. You know you had the spiritual day. Keep keep that mo you know,
keep that spiritual
demeanor domina with you as you had to tomaselli for when you got to Miss deliever
obviously, my trip times ended, right because you live at mohareb and back in the day, back in the day.
They would you if you're going by camera or walking, it's what seven kilometres or 11 kilometers somewhere around there. There's no way you're going to get to miss Delica if you are going by camels slowly and going by
by foot, you know you're not going to get there before the issue. So before about three pounds, you get there after Isha. That's the idea that you pray for on that day, the Mahabharata the time for more freebies when you get to to miss Delica the time for mothers when you get to miss Delica obviously you guys martial arts police escort whatever you're going through, Mashallah, you must have had record time. You must have arrived in which deliver within minutes.
I can't see your past moving on.
But I can I can see there. So he's he's you you got to Miss deliever at maharrey time, right? Yeah, we moved very fast.
Yeah, we got there whilst Aisha had not come in yet. So hamdullah we got that quickly. It wasn't very fast. Because if you imagine the way they organize the Hajaj, not the whole of Metallica was utilized. There was a big portion of Metallica, which was not utilized because there was immediate. I imagined that but okay. I mean, yeah, so all the buses were heading in the same direction. So there was a bit of a traffic jam. We were stuck in traffic for about half an hour. hamdulillah you know, compared to previous times, when we go on from alpha times alpha. This was very fast. Very fast. Jimmy. Jimmy, so then you prayed mohareb? Anisha in was Delica with one event into your
commerce? Correct? Yes. Right as but the hadith of Jabba Arabi Allahu Allah and what the prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam. did. And then you had the million star hotel? Yeah, it was very, that's a very nice one. I'm going to use that. I don't know if booni has copyrighted it. But that's a beautiful one. That's a clever one.
And then what what happened at Pfizer on time you provide your own time? No, we didn't. So I think you will cut off briefly excited. So we were told we're actually going to leave Metallica after the song. Yeah, yeah. So sorry, you stayed until 1230. We got woken up at one o'clock, saying our verses here. So we left around one o'clock.
So, again, you know, like I mentioned, this concession is usually there for the week, the elderly, etc. But this idea was applied due to the exceptional circumstances. Well, the whole judge were asked to start to leave around half 12 to one o'clock. So we got back to me now around 130. For some people, this was a blessing as you know, it was a long day and I found people wanting to shower. And you can't really shower in the queues for the toilets and myself I'm sure you're aware of.
So in Minot, humbler people managed to shower nice. And then the next day got some rest as well. I think she has some stories about Metallica. And I just wanted to ask like, how is there so much chaos because I know someone else who did Hajj this year as well. And in fact, the the owner of the hedge group that I lead, and he was saying that there's so much traffic and so much chaos, and long lines at the bathrooms and I was like, What 60,000 people? Did Allah take away the Baraka that is usually there with this 3 million people or what is not to be honest. For me personally, from what I saw, there was queues in Missouri, and there was some traffic leading Optimizely. But apart from
that, everything was smooth and everything was efficient and move really fast. Even in Mina. Usually, I'm sure you're used to long queues for washroom, and you know, somebody is really desperate to go to the washroom and people are having a shower in there. So that kind of thing didn't happen this year, humbler, there was sufficient toilets and there wasn't a large number of people per area. So I think that really, really went well. In that sense, only Muslim
And was only for like I said we were only there for about I don't know if he got there around eight o'clock four hours four and a half hours so handle I it was easy compared to previous years and compared to what you're used to shake
it was super easy you would have really enjoyed it
I suppose anyone would anyone know that? I was really peaceful? I think they would question I think it's because they only use the small portion of Metallica for the 60s
maybe they wanted to give them the experience of hedge
they didn't want to take that part away from them right
you know, you got it To be honest, you got to feel something in hide, you know, you got to go through a little bit of hardship to really feel it.
So so we got about a minute around 130 in the morning and people wanted to sleep this for an hour or two before further then people who wanted to shower the shower. And as you know after further is the Ramadan rots the pelting of the jamara
now this year, and even previous year's humbler they started doing this where they give each group a time you have to go at this time. So schedules are given and our time hamdulillah was at six o'clock some people actually started painting from four o'clock. Now they will focus on I guess a little unfortunate as well. Because you know, the the sunrise to pelt after fudger but we're fortunate in the sense after painting they went to Mr. Bell home and there was nobody there. They did that wofully father in record time they did that's it they came back they shaved their head and Mashallah they went to sleep until the hurt. So I'm the lagoda most people.
So our time began after fudger we went and again, Mashallah, you know, as you approach the bridges for gemera
as I looked at the bridges, again, the heart really opened up because I saw 1000s upon 1000s of people heading to gemora and there was just like a normal heart. But you wouldn't think if you're looking at that scene, you wouldn't think there's restrictions on this such a felt like that was more than 60,000 people, you know, just outside 1000s upon 1000s No, and everywhere you look there's people heading towards them.
So that was a sign just stuck in my mind.
And to me want to say this because I mean, you are unhedged, irrespective of those things, but so much do you know, they do *? Because you know, when you because I've been on HUD before it was it's different for me because I'm used to seeing millions of people.
So when you see empty, not crowded, it doesn't take away anything from your heart insha Allah but you know, it's just the feeling in your heart just the feeling that you would that you would know. Exactly, yeah. So so of course has he wants all of the Muslims to be there together. Absolutely. And inshallah
I mean, what cars Did you see any umbrellas, bricks, stones? rockets, any anything flying towards the Emirates? Or was it just
No, no, no, no, no. I personally didn't see anything. However, I did see a photo that was published in one of the newspapers in Saudi Arabia. After we finished Hajj where there was a sister who jumped and you can see a jumping and throwing the stone with real passion. Mashallah
hedge from the csrd I'll send you the Cricket Cricket bowling because it like like a basketball throw.
Okay, but you know, it's one
solid throw you need a yoga you know, those Yorkers that?
But no, personally, I didn't see it. I didn't see anybody throwing shoes umbrellas. I have seen in the past. Yes. You know, your previous slides. But yeah, there's no shame on? Well, we don't know I've been cheated on in his right mind would not physically place himself there. So you know, he has no shame upon way. But
it is a day of disgrace For shame upon. But what I normally tell people to do is to think about the Azul, where did this act come from? It came from Ibrahim pelting the actual shape on who was trying to serve him of
following the commander of law. Correct. And today, what we could do is perhaps think of a sin that causes us to fall
and take that sin and attach it to a stone
or the same sin to several stones if it's a major sin, if it's a sin, that sorry, it doesn't have to be a major sin, but isn't that keeps on making you fall you feel weak in front of it, and go to the Jamaat and Peled saying Allahu Akbar, teaching yourself at the moment that Allah is greater than your desire to fall to that for that sin and leave that sin in that pit and
That's a way to create a spiritual process surrounding the act rather than it just being a thing of seven times seven stones, they say Allahu Akbar, job done, relieved, move on. Right? It's like to go past the mechanical hedge, and to make it an experience or a journey. So what were you thinking about when you were there parenting? What takeaway Did you personally take or from someone that you spoken?
For me shake, like I said, even when you're on Hajj, no matter where you are, the shaitaan will come. And he will try to mess up your heart. And, you know, I don't really want to go into details when you're Malala
there was an incident where I felt like, I could lose my temper, and I could really mess up my heart. So it really took a lot of effort to get past that feeling and to control myself. And for me,
it couldn't have been because of your wife, she was in another 10. So
what are you saying? Are you taking because of the intention? Without going into detail?
No, but like I said, the shutdown really comes at you from all angles here. And I'm sure you you guys have experienced this as well, a little thing can trigger you. Right. And also other people as well, you know, having to really fight themselves fight enough and make sure they don't lose their temper.
And this can happen to anyone share.
The reason it could be you know, the cues for the washroom somebody is taking too long. And you go find on the door and you say get out. It could be anything right. Well thank Sonia Murat. You know, if you bear in mind, the shutdown tried to tempt Ibrahim or Islam. And what Rahim Ali Salaam Do you, you know, in a way, symbolically reenacting that act of your brain or his salon. And for me, it was me saying no to the shutdown, you know, you can come on come at me from any angle. But Allah is greater than you. And I have my faith and a lot.
When you're throwing the stone, you should have this in mind. Because, again, this comes down to the spiritual preparation for, like I mentioned earlier, if you don't know the purpose of why you're doing it, you could just be pelting you could just be throwing seven stones without really having this in your mind why you're doing it, what the purpose is. And in a way you're telling the shaitaan you know, from this day onwards, you're not going to tempt me. I'm going to do things my way. I'm going to await a lot of you taking a stance you taking a spiritual stance. Yeah. Excellent. Excellent. And obviously on that day on the 10th, you you pelting the jungle to lacob. The big
jammer? Yeah, right. And you're not pelting the other two before it's uh, you're walking past those two, knowing that. That's for tomorrow. You know, they're going to be dealt with tomorrow and the day after. But as you're going to Aqaba, obviously, you're thinking in your mind, the son of the prophets that Allah Allah was in the always say, keep marker. On your left, keep the cab on your left hip meaner on your on your right, because he pelted from he belted from its front. So when you when you're coming from Mina to it, as soon as you hit it. That was his position. So the love it was sending when he tells us. But the reason why he did it like that, because back then the jamara was
against the mountain. So there was no capacity to go to any site. You only have that site to help the jamara from correct. I'm highlighting this because previously when Stampede used to happen, it just happened on the 10th at that place, because everyone wanted to tell from the front.
And if you just took a step back away from the heaving crowd, and literally you find I've seen it personally back then it's all it's much better now. hamdulillah where you literally people are stepping on people. Yeah, if you just take a step back from that heated, heaving chaos, and you look at the other side of the Gemini, it's empty, and literally, the wall and pals and move on up somewhere. Everybody has this idea because the book said makaan your left men on the right. That's how the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam did it without any further explanation. This scenario is created. So I guess what we would say to our Hajaj at this moment is that you can help the general
Aqaba on the on the 10th and on the 11th and on the top from any site that is available for you to belted without bringing harm to yourself or to others if you can pelted with muck on your left and mean on your right phobia whenever man hamdulillah then go ahead and and do it but it's it doesn't take away anything from your hygiene if you can't do it because there's a crowd and you might harm yourself or anyone else in the process. Okay, so when you went this time, where did you go from Can you remember the depart from the first is about
and I advise other people as well what you mentioned, you know
When you walk into a gym without the tendency for people who haven't done the research or people who are going there first and they see a lot of people at the front, they go join the crowd and they try to push in and start from there. What I always do is I go to the right, I get away from the crowd go all the way to the back and it is completely empty. You can go touch the wall, and you can throw from there in peace and quiet, Marshall,
experienced Hadji? Yeah, so this is one of the best tips that you can give to anyone going on Hajj, but your first your first hedge What did you do? Well, you caught up in the crowd though. So I was fortunate again on the first handshake you know when I went to the course with
a woman a Ronda shake a son, he gave this tip actually he said, You know when you go into jamara don't go to the front walk to the back and Mashallah das took him behind. And even on my first touch, I went to the backhand. exactly same experience with two and a half million people. If you still go to the bank, there's nobody there because people as soon as they see the camera they want to pay from wherever they are.
Babe so then so then you pelted check it out. Do you want to add anything? apologies? I do. I just want to say one thing, and then after I'm gonna have to go got some work to do here in the masjid.
I remember my first touch stoning model. This is 1988 1988 Are you serious? 1998 1990 you weren't even born yet? How long you say? I think there's only 3233
first time was 1988. And you must have been a baby, you must have been like chef that would work five years old.
I was just about to turn eight.
So the Jamaat has evolved so much. You know, when I mentioned shift that the mountain was there, I remember in my mind, most people don't think of a mountain being there. And they can't even imagine a mountain being there. But there was still a bit of a hill and I remember on the on the 10th day, my mother refused to take me to the gym, he feared for my life. And so I stayed in the tent and then and he went and stone the Jamaat and came back I went on the 11th and 12th day and the crowd was it was a scene like Pamela you know as a child you're like, what is going on here? You know flow you remember it felt like the almost the EPA was about to start
on a lot but you know, a lot of panel data has made it so much easier for every single one of us now when we go to the gym a lot and seeing the multiple levels as well. You know and doing exactly that is sometimes people want to do things a specific way in our Deen is not rigid and Xochimilco if I didn't check Sajid for mentioning that you can go to a different side you you look after the safety of yourself and others as well. Yes, we want to do something exactly how the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam did it felt like he himself taught us that we don't need to do things exactly this way if it's going to ourselves, others in harm's way.
So some kind of law you know, that's something that that came to mind when you were talking about the mountain and the gem Mirage and it brought memories of 1988 and how you know things were very very different at that time. And I'll share some of those stories another time with both of you and Shawn
with you allowing me to come on as I come a little higher now shut off turn on the water very quick you you blessed the gathering and May Allah Place your input your benefit to the viewers on your skills of good deeds library
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so let's say we Mashallah we've got let's let's let's cap this we'll say within 15 minutes we should finish by just just a very quick thing on Instagram I know there's been a few comments brother matava has joined us all the way from Sydney so Salaam to him very valuable member of mercy mission Mashallah.
And brother of the rough man
Mashallah, he mentioned the brother that scene was very dear to us and you know, he is one of the brothers or soldiers in others. So I don't think any of us can forget that scene. anybody involved in mercy mission of course.
We still remember and Monday's filling I see a black man has has a caption image of that scene as well of the scene Rahim Allah. Allah Rahim Allah
If so we're on two hours and 45 minutes here so 15 minutes we are let's let's let's wrap it up inshallah,
then you you can, you can you can write us the time slot the time slots for us to place in the description box later. So you
can zoom into particular. Yeah, if you do the chapters, YouTube has this feature for chapters now. So inshallah we can, we can look into the benefit for for people. When you're on the 10th. You've pelted this morning, you've had a bit of arrest. What's next for you? Do you sleep? You go to Makkah. But yeah, give you the choice. We did have a choice humbler so people could either go direct to muscle harm to do too often the father and psyche for heart for those that hadn't done it? So there was there was buses for both choices. Yeah, it wasn't your slot, take it or leave it? No, no, no. So that was that was versus so what happened was you xa jamara, double q four buses and humla.
This year, everybody was color coded. So you were in one of four colors. Depending on your color, you will get on the bus. If you want to go back to Mina, the bus will take you back to your tent. Based on your color, my color was green, so I would catch the green bustable. But the minute anybody wanted to water my civil heroin would catch any other color on the bus will take them to Mr. donham to perform to offer the Father. Now for me,
alpha was a long day and mazola if I didn't sleep much, maybe two hours again.
I was really really, really tired. So I decided I was going to go back to Mina
pelted the Camerata would have a haircut, shaved my head and come out of a freshen up and then maybe either go to do to actually further on that day later on or the roughly father You mean the top of hydro two offers era of hedge? No, no, no. So when I go back to the 1010 minute
we had Ababa in the tent. There was a queueing system that was a queuing system so I was like entered the BBs room so so called barbers room I so for people that are humble you know I can shave my head shower get Avraham go to sleep for me. What I didn't realize is they were giving out paper slips with numbers. So the current person having his head shaved was number 20 something 25 and the number I go was 76
let's go back to that time to have breakfast yeah how breakfasts and tried to sleep for an hour. So about viewers it's not always like this any there's no barbers in the 10s unless you're in a VIP kind of service. We had you walk past was Masha Allah given Corona they brought the the barbers to the tense This is everybody was everybody was happy this year. Mashallah. So two hours later, I went back to the barber on Marshall, I'd moved from 25 to 40.
said hello somewhere to stay here. Unfortunately for me, a lot of people miss that turns, they either fell asleep in the tent, so they miss that chance. And humble after an hour later, my head was shaved, I showered got Avraham.
Now, again, I think the hunter fees are very strict in what order you have to do things to get away from what was your
maximum flexible. So the must have your following is very flexible. They're extremely reactions. Correct. Yeah. So either pelting the jamara on the head, or doing too awfully far down the side. So two out of those three.
So you're pouting and the shaving? Yes, yeah. So humbled, I managed to get home I rested. And I because of assault our viewers, you should follow your chef, the chef that is in charge of your hedge, speak to him and he will advise you in terms of your exit strategy for your apps. What brother workers is sharing with us is based on the method that he was following which is the hanbali mobile app
now so then came out of a harem you ready for the shower for the shower gel with the end obviously you know if you swear to him is the most important thing of a few which you know there's a shower gel, it's called the it's like it's got the tea tree
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes. The green one I forget the name of it. Yeah, no, I know which one you're talking about. This one is who Hannah like really wakes you up? When you especially if you've been like two days without a shower or three days without a shower? It literally you feel your entire skin tingling. I don't know if you've if you've experienced it, but yeah, this one has become a favorite. Yeah. And you feel fresh immediately. Yeah, Mashallah.
So out of Vietnam, etc.
I mean, just for our viewers sake, how do you walk us 100 workers? How would the shower
Did you have like an actual shower? Or were you you know with the head on top of you or you're using like a hose? Because it's shared right the the cubicle isn't the cubicle shared way it's a place to relieve yourself. Mm hmm you and then with it, they fit a facility to have the shower. Correct. That's how they had the showerhead. So you weren't using the house.
There was a showerhead and generally Mashallah
my wife will say the same as well, the toilets were extremely clean. That, you know, due to Corona they took care of cleanliness and hygiene and great credit to the authorities to menstrual hygiene as well. humba hygiene was there.
So, I mean, yeah, one thing we're forgetting is the sacrifice. So those performing tomato or Karen,
sorry, tomato, specifically, the study was done on you receive a text message telling you the sacrifices on Mashallah, my text message actually said
executed. So the sheep had been executed.
So you got a message saying your your head is executed? Yeah. Yeah.
One of the ways I suppose it meant the status of it is executed carried out. Yeah. Right. One of the brothers is
planning it any
hygiene serious, but you found that you found the finding.
One of the brothers received a message saying full has been done. So sorry. The needful had been done.
The need for Jimmy, Jimmy so humbler?
So I decided I would do too awfully father The following day, on the 11th on the 11th. Okay, so again, for the viewers, this is permissible. The Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam did it on the 10th. But you can do it on the 11th, you can read on the 12th if it's permissible to not do it on the 10th. And when hedge has 2 million plus or minus, on the 10th, the harem is heaving. I know people have gone toe to toe off of hedge, like 10am. And they come back 10pm Yep, because transport getting there can take you even a couple of hours, walking is probably your best, but you really tie it and the tunnels are full, then getting into the harem takes time because it's full, they they
they manage the the entry exit
points, then by the time you get under my path, we'll get to the second floor wherever you choose. And then you go through the process, you could be in power for four hours, you and your control, and a few maybe a Salah time will come in and that will slow down the process as well. So if you delay it, then there's there's benefits in it as well in terms of your health in terms of your strength in terms of you managing your hedge, you don't have to go on the 10th. So brother Walker's had you Mohammed wakasa saying that he felt he was tired. He had a long out of and along with deliever he wanted to raise the 10th and gone the 11th. Okay, and your group facilitated it, of course. Now
normally, for the viewers, groups don't facilitate this. But going to,
to do the harm for your car and back to my knowledge, this is not something facilitated you. You are, you know, people are left to go and get it done. I mean, even for us shake, it wasn't facilitated to an extent we were told what time we could tell the camera However, people could go outside of those times as well. So myself I'd have to go to Could you go to Macau by yourself? Who had you had to take the note? We have to take the bus? Nobody could walk? Yeah. They wouldn't allow anybody to walk. So you have to take the bus. But the buses were there. 24 seven, so you could take any, okay. All around the country. So it's similar. Okay. Excellent. Excellent. And just a very
quick point. When I did hijaab, more than 10 years ago, I actually performed to awfully father on the roof during the day in the heat of the day. So, you know, because of wanting to do on the 10th that was one of the toughest laughs I've ever done. And I remember Google literally being pushed by people. We weren't walking. We were being pushed by people because it's so slow.
Because you're just so stressed about your health, your safety. Yeah, I don't recommend you know if you have the opportunity and you know, Harlem is busy. And nowadays you can go on the livestream on YouTube. And you can see
I didn't have that before you had to go and witness it firsthand. Now you can just check and see La ilaha illAllah staying going from this. Yeah. So on the 11th humbleth waffly father, I did a after pelting. So though, we pelleted now repenting all three jamara for a second and third and as you know after the first camera, you move to your right or left depending on which side you're on. A failed circuit law mega mega Longo has the probably solemn
applies just similarly with the second one, after pelting, you do the same after the third you don't make $1 you exit the jemalloc now, so I had if you if you facing the jamara McKay's on your database on your left, and the minerals on your right, when you have held the first jamara, this is now on the 11th, right, Amara, and you move, you move to the reminders waiting even to the left if markers on your left,
on the left, so you move exactly so you move the left and you make dua, and you go to the next one you piloted and you move to your left again, again, and then you put the third one. Yeah, and okay. Third one, you move on. Yeah. So after the third one, I took the bus to muscadelle. Harlem to you walk straight out to the orange buses in the front, the Saturday buses. Well, they were more fancy this year
when there weren't any
Okay, I remembered our investors were that weren't any of our investors on
those buses took us to Masuda Holloman ease and comfort. Abdullah dropped us off in
Spanish, a local station, just behind the clock tower. I forget the name location
because of there, and you just walk underneath the clock tower to Harlem and humble on the level that was empty. I mean, it wasn't fully empty. But you know, I was in the fourth circle, I believe.
And it was very quick, very easy, no pushing, no shoving.
And the amazing thing was after that I performed the site for Hajj. And literally I think when I went there, there was about 20 or 30 people doing inside because everybody Mashallah they, they decided they were going to do on the first day. So on the 10th so you know, you're dealing it to the 11th had its merits. Now, so hundreds is in his comfort. And once you've done that we're awfully far down, say if you feel like humbler, majority of your heart is done now.
That can be advantageous and they can also be receiving when you when you when you I mean for you. And for those listening when you Peled and you shave, this is the lesser to Hello, hello means you've come out of the state of your hand, but partially not fully. Yeah. Right. So you can use perfume, you can, you know, remove your hair, remove your nails, whatever you need to do, you can groom yourself. But what's not permissible for you is any marital relations.
Until you do your top of hedge. By when you do your top of hedge. This is done to handle
the greater to Hello meaning now you fully come out of the state of a harem ever. There's nothing forbidden for you now. Yeah, besides that, which is haram, always whether you haram and you're not in the Haram always. Right. So you came out of the state of your harem in completion. Okay, so that was on the 11th. Yep. What happens next? So now, for the viewers, brother, aka Haji Muhammad walk past when you went back to the harem, this time for the TA you didn't uncover your shoulder? You didn't run the first three rounds? Because this is not part of the sooner of the raffle, if it's only part of the sooner of to Africa the first time if you do and you get to Makkah. Correct. So you
cover your shoulder, you add a third one or something I was on normal clothing correct. So I was out of the clothing as well.
So hamdulillah like I mentioned shake, you know, you feel like most of you had is over. But this can lead to complacency. Because now the shutdown makes you think Hello sad is over, even though you got to spend another day in Minar minimum.
So this is where we can again become complacent. We can go into discussions, arguments. We can just chat about worldly things.
So again, this is my advice to anybody going forward. Please remember, you're only there for five days or so, five or six days maximum. Utilize the time and Mina Mina honestly, the shutdown will talk to you a lot. And it's very, very easy to go into discussion with people about worldly matters and spend two hours three hours discussing these things.
Don't waste any moment. Try your best to make the most amount now there's a lot of other that you can do in manner. And once you're done with Menard, you'll you'll have plenty of time to relax and enjoy yourself and get to know people and in the age of WhatsApp share on Facebook, you can keep in touch with these people and I'm sure you know the people you met in May now you'll be meeting up with after heard as well. So that's my advice when it comes to minutes.
Excellent. Excellent. So and obviously on the 12th you repeated the same you pal three Jamaat, when did you leave me now on the 12 because now you leaving Halla that's you leaving back for worker to do to awful weather not too awful where there is a wide toe off
for those on
and some scholars say also for those who go for armor, but they all agree that is for hedge. It's wired up, except for females experiencing their menses they don't have to do it. Yep. So what time did you leave that day did you leave after midday or before midday?
Yeah, so, we did the pelting after the hurt, actually we reached jamara just as the gun went off. So hamdullah we managed to pelt
after that, we returned back to the constant Minar we perform the hole
and then we will
wait till midday and then pelt, when the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam made a concession for certain groups of people and contemporary scholars have said based on that concession that this applies for those who need to go and some have said when you have had you have 2 million then the concession has to be there because people you know people need to go because you need to start moving you need to try and get 2 million people across the harm
rather than doing it over a shorter period of time from midday onwards rather you do it over a 24 hour period over a longer period so from from sunrise onwards, so some scholars have allowed you if you leaving Minar you leaving the Hajj now you done on the route of the hijab to leave after sunrise to go out after sunrise but the sooner is to wait the lower and impelled like Haji Muhammad walkers or passes group did so you you did you pray door and then leave
so you say you didn't you you went to the gym right? yeah and then went and then you pelted Yep, yep. So after after the we pelleted and then we came back to the tents and you know we prayed over others you know, I mean are you shorten your Salah as well, you know, combined.
Wait waiting for transportation, to take us to muscadelle harm
to perform to awful weather.
So transportation arrived around three o'clock.
Just Just before so we missed the jamaah in muscadelle home fossa. By the time we got to my cell phone, so we prayed, you know individually? muscle harem, as you can imagine on the 12th because those who were leaving on the 12th, Allah subhanaw taala has given us a concession to either leave men on the 12 or live on the 13. Correct. Yeah. So this year, I don't think anybody was allowed to stay till the 13th for health and safety reasons and Corona excetera everybody left on the trail. So you can imagine Mr. donham now was packed, right. So you have the 60,000. Yay, everybody was performing la shuttler.
So initially, when we got in there, we were pushed to first row, we couldn't perform to our from the in the metal from the ground floor. Because it was full, okay, it was full.
umbrella. As far as you know how Allah made everything easy for us, about a quarter of the way in the first first round, we noticed the security guards opened the gate to go down to the ground floor because they there was some gaps people have left and hamdullah we managed to get on the ground. here just watching and you don't know. When you do toe off on these on the space next to the cover, it's shorter. If you go to the first floor, the circumference is larger. So generally you're walking much more than you would if you were doing the top next to near the cover now. Yeah, so that's a brother pastor saying Allah makes it easy because Allah took him from the longer toe off to the
shorter hair circumference, right? Have
you been people? Was it like, are you still had those gaps? No.
We were encouraged and we tried our best everyone to maintain social distancing
handler this, this is one thing the the volunteers, the security personality ensured that we could perform the laugh and comfort
and, you know, maintain as much social distancing as possible. There were instances where people bumped into each other, but it wasn't, you know, it wasn't like in the previous years.
So humbler, we performed with a laugh
and we didn't need to perform the site because we've done it on the previous days.
Some people had actually delayed that site till after too often. Okay, so so for the viewers what Brother What had you hammered? Oh, Cass is referring to is the salary of hedge. Yeah, the salary of hedge, if you didn't perform that salary, after your two offer Kudu for those new Karen, and you didn't perform that say, after your tawaf of hedge, then you have a chance to perform that sorry, after your tawaf of weather, according to many of the scholars of Islam, according to many of the scholars of Islam, but again, you should take guidance from you
Your your personal Islamic scholarship that you are performing the hedge with. Now does does this nullify? Because what's the idea of TOEFL without the idea of TOEFL? What is the last action of your hedge is the stuff and you leave? Or even if you stay in Makkah, there's no other action of hedge to come thereafter.
So if you do not offer after too often where there is this an issue, so those scholars who have allowed it, they say it's not an issue. Why? Because there's no salary without our so it's as if the wife is Sorry, sorry, is part of the turf.
they say that this is not a violation of normal whether this is just to explain the scholarly mindset based on the scenario that brother workcast is giving that some people perform, they say, after the awful weather. Alright, and then it was bus and time to come home. Yep, long journey home. So the long journey home it took you 12 to 14 hours going. You said 14 hours going. How long did take you coming back? 12 hours, roughly shorter. No, no, no, no, no, no. Unfortunately,
no sun. So but we actually set off from last season.
If you imagine we got there around four o'clock, we go from the top etc. Some of us go back to the bus by six o'clock. Others go back to the bus around 830 or nine o'clock.
I guess the lesson there is everyone's tired. But you remember that we want to. We came here as a team, as a group of brothers and sisters for Muslim brothers and sisters, brothers and sisters in Islam. And we went back as one team and it sort of reminds you of at the time of the Prophet salallahu alayhi wasallam. The expeditions then there was different people, different ages, some camels were slow. Some camels were fast. I mean, during the Battle of tabuk, a Buddha was left behind because his animal was slow. And until he couldn't even see the Muslim army. And then he left his animal carried his goods and ran to Han Allah. He didn't want to go back to Medina. He thought
he let me just go back to Medina. I've lost him when he ran, and the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam set up camp. And obviously before that the hypocrites decided to stay behind and carry with Malik. He wasn't a hypocrite but he made a mistake. He didn't prepare for the journey he ended up staying behind as well. And you know the verses in Surah Toba was our Allah Allah tala Dena holy for Allah discusses the three that remained behind but they were not from the hypocrites.
And the army realized was the Buddha
and the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said if it is good for him, he will he will he will catch up and if they if he wasn't, you know, if he didn't have the right intention, or I'm paraphrasing them there's no benefit in for us in him being here. And also handling the distance. He appeared and the prophets of Allah when someone said there's someone in the distance coming and the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam felt in his heart I hope it was because he didn't he wanted him to be loved him.
But the point is that they were patient with each other, different speeds, different people, different ages, different calibers, you all in a journey of power. You all in in a journey of righteousness and piety. So be patient with each other, be patient with each other and I suppose you had to be patient with each other because none of you were that I mean, anyway, you had an Amir who was in charge of of all the Hajaj
Mumtaz hotels Mashallah this lovely message on his on screen by ZDF
it's late in Saudi it is it's past 1am here
you got back and obviously I remember telling you that for the workers. When you got back I said Masha, Allah, Yanni koyomi. Well, I did como que me This is where the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said el Hadji McGrew when the Hajj is accepted, you return back home the same way you were when your mother gave birth to you that your slates are clean. And for me, I was proud of you I was excited for you. And I said Mashallah, you got home and that's you know, you feel inshallah your hedges accepted and forgiven. You probably got home and you were just, you know, knackered, you are really mentally because you really I mean, I like you said earlier and I can relate to it you don't
sleep on the bus. So you got back and crashed but when did it dawn upon you that's fine Allah I have my slate clean inshallah. Good open Allah that I'm clean. I went on this journey. I did it. When did it dawn upon you the same day A few days later? Or it hasn't still?
Yeah, it's difficult check. Because I think you know, you'll relate to as well when you go too hard. And the days just fly. Right? You don't. I remember. It seems like yesterday I was packing or getting on the bus from Riyadh to Makkah. And we're already back on now. It's already been about five days since we got back. So everything still feels on you. And you really ready? You got backlash.
didn't know was it? Friday, Friday last Friday? Yeah, this is this is this is savage right now. Yeah, we started our Friday it doesn't even feel like you know you still feel like you yesterday you were in Minar and you really begin to miss those moments and the places that you then hedge
against again shake as you mentioned be helpful hope in the last one with Allah believer lives between hope and fear. We have full hope Allah subhanaw taala will accept our heart, and you know, our our sense of being forgiven.
But at the same time you we don't become complacent and all the promises that we made in on Hajj, we should fulfill those. I remember during the documentary, The brother asked me a question he said,
Do you think you will change after college? And I told him I said, I think that's the wrong question to ask. I think the question you should be asking is, if you don't change after Hajj, what is it that you did wrong on Hajj, because you know how it should be a stepping stone for us to make a positive change in our life.
And this isn't just getting rid of sense from your life, anything that you're doing wrong, you make a firm intention that you're going to get rid of it. But it's also increasing in the good deeds that you do. So maybe, you know, just giving examples. Maybe you were weak on your novel.
On the voluntary press, maybe you want to increase in those, maybe you will we can read in the Quran, maybe you recite once a week, you wouldn't decide every day, and you want to change out maybe you want to get over the hurdle. If you make a firm intention, and you make a promise for last $1 that you will try to do all of these facilitated follows,
you will find that love makes everything easy for you. And we're lucky in the past week, I made a few commitments and my wife knows about this. And I told her that we're going to do this together, there are certain targets that we have to have after Hajj and hamdulillah. In the past seven days, we've been able to achieve some of those already. On May Allah give us the strength and the trophy to continue. Because you know this, this feeling of coming from hedge when they say man rules will eventually wear off slowly, slowly right as you get back into your daily routine. But if you make the good visa routine, from the very first day that you get back from Hajj, it becomes a routine for
you. And you'll find it so easy to do for the rest of your life.
On the other hand, it's very easy to give up on these things as well. If you miss those for two days, three days, for example, if you make an intention to recite the Quran, even if it's one page, every single day, if you miss it for two days, you can easily fall back into your previous habits. So, you know, we ask Allah subhanaw taala that he accepts our good deeds and it gives us the strength to be able to do the things that we promised that we will do and to make the changes, positive changes that we said we will make control much. I mean, I mean your robotic, Alavi come you're absolutely right. And I suppose it's, it's about a process of burning in not burning out,
just making sure that whatever you want to do, you create a plan whereby you take baby steps into it. And then you burn yourself into it and increase over time.
When people come back from height, like you rightly said, you know, you come with
with that demand boost, and you do come you forgiven. So you have this Baraka with you, that's driving you. But also just to remember yourself, your human nature, your personality, your demeanor, take into consideration what works, what has worked in the past, what hasn't worked in the past, why didn't work and accordingly, set your plan so that you burn in and don't burn out and you're able to have the hedge experience lasts with you till your grave rather than it being
a just a pillar that you did, at one time of your life. It was a journey of a lifetime. And that's what they call it right the journey of a lifetime. Not because it's it's just unique, but it's a journey of a lifetime, that Subhanallah it lasts with you for a lifetime. And even on the day of gamma. That's that's a different life. But a lifetime takes you all the way into the life of the grave, the life of razor resurrection. And you feel that impact there that you entered into paradise because of that hedge that you did and how Allah was happy when pleased with you. I was going to ask you to end this interview to tell us some takeaways and I think you summarized it in,
in what you shared. But do you have any final words to share or, or anything else you'd like to say to our viewers? Just two things. As you know, the Prophet salla salaam said he has not thanked Allah who does not talk to people. So I think I mean, I've said this in in the Saudi media, but I think it's important to highlight Saudi Arabia gets a lot of negative publicity at times. And even for things like home run hedge. But I think the way the hedge was organized this year, from the beginning till the end,
we should be thankful. And we should thank the authorities, first of all, in all prisons due to Allah for allowing us to perform hajj and making it easy for us after that
Ministry of Health Ministry of Health, these security services, they really went out that way. They really took extra steps to make everything safe, secure and easy for the judge. So I think I want to take this opportunity to thank all those involved in organising the highs this year. And hamdulillah is such a blessing to have 60,000 people compared to 1000 people last year. And the last thing I want to say to people I know some people in the chat have mentioned they want to come for hedge.
If you look at my story in the beginning of this stream, if you were here, I mentioned that we've been trying to perform for the past three years. For one reason or another, you know Qatar Allah, it didn't happen. For the first two years, something always kept happening which prevented us from from performing hajj, but our intention was there. And we followed up the intention with and we had full trust in Allah Life is good for us. And the last one Tyler wants it follows a will happen. And this year, you know, like I mentioned on the first day we we talk about our lives not happened again, but now underway for us. So if you're sincere in your intention, and you really want to perform hajj,
then have your intention that you want to perform hajj and continue to make dua to Allah, Allah subhanaw taala will answer your glass. And if you're not if you're prevented from performing hajj, then at least with your intention, Nadia dwells inshallah Allah, we have hoped that Allah will reward you for having that intention. And if you were legitimately prevented from performing hajj, at least you have that reward. So please, please take that moment to have the intention and to continue to make the law. And this doesn't just apply for handshake, it applies for anything that you want in life.
You know, the amount of examples I can give them the amount of examples you can give excited, or where things seemed improbable, not impossible, but improbable. But we turned to a last one with Allah in Elsa, do, you know to us and the last one the column made a way for us. And these are the kinds of things we can have a tank aligner for. But you know, Allah, Allah has made a way for us to ask him
and he responds to us and be firm in your conviction that last one fella will respond to you the other language.
She muted the vertical of your class and I couldn't have said it better. And, you know, you're absolutely right credit where credit is due. We thank Allah subhanho wa Taala for the hedge happening in the capacity that he did.
Many thought it would probably be a very small affair, like last year, but it was bigger, almost 60 times bigger.
And also, you know, like you highlighted that
credit where credit is due and everybody pulled out the stops also just to highlight
how all the stops were pulled out as well in managing this pandemic known as COVID-19 because you've been here through it, I've been here through it and Mashallah varkala it's been a phenomenal
you know, display of effort with the topic of Allah subhanho wa Taala
you know, the ministry, after Allah subhanho wa Taala the Ministry of Health has, has really been guided, they've had to hit, they were more * in how they've handled this, this pandemic. As we know, Saudi Arabia was one of the first out of the full lockdowns and you know, just the way everything was was managed despite the cost closing down the Hajj in the Amara, and schools closed and so on and so forth and managing the borders the way it was done all this comes with with massive costs, but putting in the forefront what the Sharia highlights and that is preservation of life. And the decisions that stemmed as a result of it definitely is worth you have mentioned is worthy of
mentioning Allah subhanho wa Taala reward all those who who are involved in being a means for
this difficult situation, the pandemic is very difficult. Being as as as easy as possible. And also,
I mean to what you said no doubt in the Mullah ml orbignya to actions are judged by the intentions and they were people who sincerely wanted to go for Hajj. They sincerely had the desire, they applied.
They didn't get accepted, it was beyond their control. It's never been a case where you you apply for hygiene you don't get accepted normally, even though this coat is everywhere. People make it for the hedge. Some people did get accepted but they didn't have the financial capacity to do it. They didn't have the financial ability to go for the hedge.
So we ask Allah subhanho wa Taala to grant them all the rewards of hedge emini, and ask Allah subhanho wa Taala to bring ease upon the globe, and to create to bring a situation upon us where things can happen, not the same as they were before but better, better even. I know we all wishing for the 2 million hedgewitch for even bigger than 2 million hedge because we know the oma is growing and there is a need for even more people.
being allowed to come for Hajj to cater for the numbers that the oma has,
you know and cater for for everyone from the Omar Abdullah to Allah to be able to come for the Hajj. So we ask Allah subhanaw taala to lift off us this pandemic I mean Europe, at the end to ask Allah subhanho wa Taala to accept the hedge of the Hajaj had you walk past his wife and everyone who performed the hedge to forgive them mistakes, to
strengthen any weaknesses that they may have had in the intentions and to write them off from amongst those that returned to their homes. Or the same way they found themselves the day they were born, meaning with their slates totally clean, and ask Allah subhanho wa Taala to make them live the fruits of the Hajj that they've been on in that they sincerely feel a difference in comparison to the lives that they were upon before they went for the hedge fund and those are from the science those are from the science that you generally are doing things that you wanted to do but weren't doing before and staying away from things that you wanted to leave but we're still doing doing prior
so members panatela Bless you all with all of that it's been wonderful. I think people can see our eyes are red now of course we've been we've been on chat for over three hours and Mashallah Instagram has run as I said, I don't use Instagram and the last time I use it was maybe a year or a couple years ago and I remember it had a one year limit but Michelle light seems to be unlimited it's lasted three hours and 21 minutes so far. Yeah, three hours 21 minutes so far. hamdulillah and I think we should go we should mention the people have been looking at the comments and some names have been there from the beginning until now so 100 if anybody's stuck around for three three and a
half hours almost Mashallah, you've done well
Mashallah devarakonda has a question
as well and Twitter on Facebook on YouTube members panatela best you will I see my Mashallah we have chef with mine Sheikh Mohammed with mine, Mashallah. Mashallah.
Well, I wish we had him earlier and we could have brought him on to the feed
for us and share with us from his wisdoms regarding the hedge and I'm Robert perhaps in future episodes, brother should have me Allah bless you. Brother Shahab wants to ask a question off topic brothers you have we've been here almost three and a half hours so please allow me to excuse myself because it's past 1am here is going for 130 but inshallah you can contact me on the site and I shall I show with Allah Allah answer your question. And to our chef Mohammed Osman have become law have become law barakallahu Coleman and May Allah bless everyone who's saying Jazakallah Baraka lo que como la reward you all, and bless you all.
Masha Allah there's some comments that I just want to get on screen before we end that came through. We've had a lot of dough as for the acceptance of your hydrogen, the Hajj of the Hajaj, except everyone who, who may do
ZDF says I had started interview on loudspeakers, panel lights so interesting that the whole family's got their screen watch America, Allah bless you and your family and bring you on for hijama in Europe. I think you should turn this into a podcast, get the audio and maybe people can listen to it. Those that weren't able to watch the video, inshallah. Great, great, great suggestion. Great suggestion. I'll leave you to be a lead on that.
As you announced at the beginning of this for
look at the I think everybody will agree the image coming from you shall lie It's like a professional camera with a professional microphone and the lighting whereas me
it's the beauty of your eyes My brother it's the beauty of your eyes hedgy Mohammed casilla very
alive very few come to Zakouma haven to everyone on all our platforms does echo here and for being with us. I just wanted to have this interview with with someone who performed the Hydra this year, and hamdulillah had Haji Muhammad will pass close by and I thought we must have this experience. I don't mean he wanted to go for the Hajj and many have have said that this interview has aligned a lot of the emotions that that they had, you know not being able to to attend the Hajj and insha Allah you will attend the Hajj and I will attend the hedge sooner rather than later. ask Allah Subhana Allah to preserve us in his obedience, I mean Europe, and I request all of you to be the
best that you can be always for the sake of Allah subhanho wa Taala remember, life is too short for us to make it shorter, by not being the best that we can be. We have we have the Shahada in our hearts, we have the sooner in front of us preserved and we have the Quran the words of Allah subhanho wa Taala ever speaking to us and guiding us and we have to speak to Allah subhanho wa Taala whenever we please, there is no reason why we can't be the best that we can be. I love you all for the sake of Allah. Everything correct said in this interview from both myself and the chef who was with us and the Haji Muhammad with us is from Allah subhanho wa Taala alone and he's perfect. And
any mistakes I find myself in shape on and I see colossal Hannah who attalus forgive
As Jacqueline O'Hara nella preserve us all in his obedience and gather us together in person. And if we can't then at least via the airwaves like Allah subhanho wa Taala has gathered us here today and in the hereafter May Allah gather us in all photos and I mean Europa alameen until then brothers and sisters in Islam, salaam Allah here alikum warahmatu hula wa barakato sallallahu ala nabina Muhammad wa ala alihi wa sahbihi adjumani