Nouman Ali Khan – The Better Response To Argument

Nouman Ali Khan

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The speakers discuss the use of negative language in religion and the controversy surrounding a prophet's supposed fulfillment. They stress the importance of showing people how they are being called, the history of "back and forth" in Islam, and the use of "offense" language to assert their claim. They also discuss fallacy in argument, including the belief that one should not do anything until they have shown their argument to be accurate, the use of negative language to assert their claim, and the importance of avoiding unnecessary falloffs. The speakers also emphasize the need to learn to rise above others and avoid getting caught up in arguments.

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with you about is number 125 of salt and the * that began call to the way of your master will do
		
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			lsvt loud because I talked to you about that particular one in football by itself. We talked about
wisdom in a separate club and hikma call to the way of your master using wisdom. And then last time
I talked to you but not well molar invited has been using good counsel so call to the way of your
master using wisdom and good counsel and beautiful counsel. We're coming to the almost the last part
of this is Elijah de l'homme bility, here is an easy translation of that would be and debate them or
argue back with them in a way that is more beautiful, or in the in with using that which is better,
more specific, more literally using that which is better. So the first thing that is important to
		
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			note here is Allah has made a separation between calling people to his way and arguing with them. So
he didn't put those two things together in which the merata farakka, when two verbs come together,
or two nouns come together, two concepts come together, the point of them is to highlight that
they're two different things. So calling people to Allah using wisdom and calling people to allow
using good counsel is one thing. And arguing with them is another thing debating with them is
another thing. And this is important, because a lot of times people are engaged in, you know,
debates with atheists, or debates with Christians or debates about religion, or Muslim versus non
		
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			Muslim, etc, or even debates within Islam within among Muslims. And they're calling it that. They're
calling it invite, that means inviting to the way of Allah calling people to the way of Allah, those
two are a separate category. And those are for people who are basically it's for people who may not
have known anything, and now you're exposing them to something so you're not coming across
aggressive anyway. You know, the way you the tone you take and the way you make an argument. And the
way you refute somebody when you're debating with somebody, obviously, someone has an opposing point
of view. And you're, you know, you have every right to say, Well, here's why I don't agree with you.
		
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			And here's why I think what you believe or what you hold to be true, I don't hold that to be true.
And here's why here are my reasons, right. So you can have a back and forth about your reasons and
their reasons. But that doesn't assume that somebody else has an opposing point of view. This is
really cool and important. Because when you're giving that while you're assuming that that person is
a clean slate, and you're just exposing them to something beautiful. You're not exposing them to
something beautiful, by showing them how wrong they are. Or undoing what they what you think they
believe. You know, it's almost as if their worldview, as far as you're concerned, doesn't even
		
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			exist. You're not responding or reacting to their way of thinking. You're just presenting what you
have. So, you know, I'm gonna prove to you
		
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			For example, because I'm going to prove to you that the Bible has mistakes and the Quran is right,
etc, etc. That's not that what to a Christian, for example, because for someone who's a Christian
that you have to happen to be friends with, or whatever, and you just wanted to introduce them to
the Quran, you don't want to introduce them by first slapping their belief, and then saying, and let
me show you how right I am and how wrong you are. Just that's human nature. Nobody wants to hear
that. And that's actually not even the prophets way of all of the prophets. That's not what they
did. But there will always be people that when you give good counsel, or when you present your point
		
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			of view with wisdom, there will be some who will be interested in countering what you just said,
well, you say this, but I believe you said x, but I believe why. And here's why I believe y and the
the are coming back at you with a an opposing point of view, which is no longer that what we've that
our stage is over for a select group of people. Now we're entering into what you can call g da, da,
da, da da da means to argue and Jaga means to argue back to give evidences and the idea, meaning,
I'm not going to accept what you just told me at face value. And here are my reasons. Right? And so
now the back and forth begins, what do you want to call it a debate and argument, a discussion of
		
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			back and forth, whatever phrasing you want to use, that's fine.
		
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			But then Allah put a condition on that kind of exchange to he didn't just say, well, you can argue
back and crush them or whatever. The first incredible thing here is, in the first part of the ayah,
Allah did not say call them he said call to the way of your master through lsvt. Big not Boudreau,
whom LSB little bit just call call to the way of your master using wisdom using good counsel. He
didn't say call who, because it's open ended. But then some people come back at you, and they want
to be argumentative, or they want to they want to engage in some kind of discussion, right or
debate. Those people are a subset of everybody. So what happens next, he didn't say argue in the way
		
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			that is best or debate in the way that is best. Now, he says debate then which ideal home? Now
there's a mention of them? What does that tell you? That debate is a very specific thing for very
specific groups of people. And that's not the open ended policy of Islam or of Muslims, that they
just want to go on looking for debates. In fact, you're only coming, you're only engaging in a
debate, if somebody is pulling you into one. If they're coming to you, and they want to drag you
into a debate, fine, you're ready for it. But you're not going around asking for debates. That's not
what you're doing. On the flip side, you have, for example, just as an example, from the prophets
		
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			life's a lot longer earlier,
		
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			when the Prophet Alayhi Salam was living in Medina and machineable view was formed, word was
spreading in the region, not just the immediate vicinity of Medina and Mecca, but other tribes and
other, you know, a kind of ripple effect in the entire region, that there is a man claiming to be a
prophet who believes in all of the previous scriptures. So he claims that he's confirming what the
Old Testament has what the Torah has what the Injeel has. He even acknowledges Jesus as the Son of a
virgin mother, but doesn't believe that he's got that Jesus is God or the Son of God. And he's
claiming to have this final revelation from God. And he's a fulfillment of prophecy that was given
		
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			before where to start spreading about that. And there are Christian and Jewish tribes in the
vicinity, in the further outskirts of Arabia, that are now coming to hear about this rumor about a
prophet who's claiming to fulfill scripture. And some of them from the drawn from the region of
Nigeria and say, well, we want to check this out. He's claiming this to be true. And they are
waiting for some kind of a prophecy to be fulfilled. So this is let's just find out what he's
talking about. So actually, clergyman, these were people of religion, these were people that were
ordained in their church hierarchy, you know, and they, they came to meet with the Prophet salallahu
		
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			alaihe salam, and they stayed in Machina boy, so these Christian ministers, these priests, and
these, these worshipers that were from the hierarchy and, you know, of the of the church, they
stayed inside the machine, during the weeks in which they wanted to engage in the profits, so
engaged with the prophets of Solomon are in discussion. Right. And they used to worship. However,
they worship the Christian way of worship inside the question. While they were guests of the Prophet
alayhi salatu salam, right. And then the Quran was now giving them argument back about the reality
of Jesus and who Jesus was and what actually happened with Mary and the family background and the
		
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			struggle of Jesus and the alleged crucifixion, all of those ions in alien Milan were revealed at
that time when those people were there. Right, and this was a back and forth, and they were now as
they were hearing these arguments, they were now the Quran. When it was being revealed. It wasn't
just giving them information. Allah was speaking on behalf of what he wants the prophet to know. But
Allah is all knowing. He also knows what they know.
		
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			So Allah has both points of view, before they even open their mouth. Allah knows what they know. And
Allah knows if they've discovered something when they were doing their own studies, that corresponds
to what the Prophet is saying, solo lahardee wasallam, but they're hiding it because if they say it
out loud, they'll lose the argument.
		
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			Right? So they're kind of like, let's not bring that one up. Right? Because they, they're
knowledgeable in the Scripture. And so if they're engaging in an argument, and their intention is to
find the truth, that's something else. But if they came with the intention of winning this argument,
		
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			and then they find even in their own personal circle, in their own studies, that some of the
Scripture and some of the writings of their their, you know, their leaders are pointing them in the
direction of Muhammad Sallallahu, alayhi wasallam, then maybe we should skip that part. And if we
skip it, Mohammed won't know. They don't say sallallahu, Alayhi. Salaam we do. He won't know, why
won't he know because he doesn't know our scripture. So even if we don't mention that we have this
with us, then we're gonna, you know, dodged a bullet, basically. And we might be able to win this
argument. But the problem was, they didn't recognize that Allah knows what they show and what they
		
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			hide. And so Allah revealed in the Quran, why are you hiding testimony and you already know,
		
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			like, and this was actually the and this was an offense against Allah, you came all this way to find
the truth about Allah. And now the truth is speaking to you. One time that Luna Al Kitab, you're
reading the book yourselves. And so there's very critical eye art in alien run about those people
that came knowing the truth. And yet they were trying to deliberately highly hide it. While they
were, they were in the presence of the profits a little low.
		
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			So the IRS started getting very aggressive. You notice the IRS, you know, talking to the people of
the book, start getting very aggressive. Now if people don't understand that, they think that those
ions are talking to every Christian,
		
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			or talking to every Jew, if they're not, they're talking to a very particular bunch of people that
studied their own scripture and came to conclusions that were starting to agree with what the
prophet was saying to them, and didn't and wanted to hide it. And they weren't even telling the
Prophet that but you don't have to tell the Prophet Allah already knows. Allah will tell the Prophet
closer them so let's start giving him these answers. And then finally, Allah was so offended that
they are in the presence of the truth and they're rejecting it for no good reasons. That allows a
witch hunt then reveal reveal to them a challenge would roll up in an hour manisa anomalisa Well,
		
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			you know, unfortunately one four second film went up to him you know, if they still want to hold on
to what they have, then tell them call your you know, your your children and our children or your
women or women ourselves also someone after he will stand up face to face and we'll say whoever is
wrong me a lot. Kirsten Panetta, Allah tala Holika dB, may Allah curse those who are lying. But that
debate with that very drastic, aggressive conclusion at the end, was because Allah was actually
moderating that debate.
		
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			Allah was presenting the argument from one side directly through the prophets listen to that
particular audience you understand? That does not mean that I go out to the church down the street
in my you know, I we live in Texas, there's there's plenty of churches. So I find a church down the
street and say, Hey, bring your kids, I'll bring my kids, bring your women, we'll bring our women
from our family. And we're gonna say, whoever wins this debate and whoever is on the truth may be
saved and whoever is not on the truth may or may they all die of a curse.
		
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			Me God's curse me. And that's not the Islamic way of debate. But this was the case when people were
in the presence of the Prophet himself so Salaam and Allah knew about them, and they were
knowledgeable and they were hiding it. That's what that's what them and Allah now, but in that case,
because they were in the prophets presence, it was a different scenario. Now, what is the teaching
that Allah is giving us about debate itself? He says, Well, jardel humility, he acid, debate them in
a way that is with that, which is more beautiful. That's an interesting word, because that means
that sometimes people use ways in debate that are ugly. And debates can get ugly, analyzing, keep
		
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			things more beautiful. And the word beautiful and better are similar in Arabic accent can be used
for better and can be used for more beautiful. So keep things civil, keep things dignified, keep
things beautiful, and also use better arguments. If they come up with an argument, then use better
arguments. Don't use anything else, but better arguments. Yeah, don't be lazy here. So what I wanted
to do in this course, is highlight to you what are some ugly ways of making arguments? What are some
ways to contaminate an argument and that are unfair, and, you know, in philosophy studies, they call
these logical fallacies. And it's a it's it sounds like a big word but it's really simple idea. And
		
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			the idea is if two people are having a disagreement with each other than just like in a sports
match, right? You know, one athlete could cheat and they could maybe not fight the the judge doesn't
find out that they are the referee doesn't find out that they
		
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			Then the rules, right? So the same way in an argument, one opponent can use certain tactics while
making an argument that are actually not fair. And they are not a way to win an argument, they're a
way to make it look like you won an argument. You understand. So let's talk about some of those
tactics that the Quran in different places talks about that I won't go into detail of where the
Quran talks about that. But I want to introduce you to some of these tactics. If for example, you
make the person you're talking to feel the pressure, that if they don't agree with you, that harm
will come their way.
		
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			Right? If they don't, if they are, debate is happening and discussion is happening. But your site is
safe, and their site is what? unsafe. So if part of the argument is listen, if you don't agree with
me, you're gonna burn in *. For example,
		
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			you know, the most immediate threat could be you know, you better agree with me, because I wouldn't
want you to lose your job over this. you threaten somebody financially, you threaten somebody, you
know, socially, you threaten somebody in the worldly sense. But also in the other worldly sense. If
you don't agree with me, you're gonna burn in *. That is not you arguing. That's not an argument.
Now you are using their emotions, and their need to feel safe to influence their thought process.
Yes, giving somebody good news and giving somebody warnings is part of that power. But it's not part
of Sudan. It's part of inviting somebody inviting somebody to heaven, letting somebody no the
		
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			terrors of *, so they can save themselves from it. That's not for argument that's for spreading a
message about the truth about the afterlife. But if you're engaged in a debate, that's not the place
for it. That's not the time you say, Well, you know, you're gonna burn in *, if you don't agree
with me. Now, I should agree with you, because it makes sense to me, I should agree with you,
because you would set something logical, because your evidences are sound, because you've shown me
that the way I was thinking about this was incorrect, or the facts that I presented aren't actually
facts, that if you were able to show me that I should agree with you. But if I'm scared, for some
		
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			reason, or my safety is in question for some reason, and therefore I agreed with you, I stopped
using my head.
		
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			I no longer agreed with an argument, I just ran toward safety, you understand? So that's a logical
fallacy. Don't use that an argument and don't let them use that against you. Or you want to keep
agreeing, if you're using this argument against the prophet SAW Selim, and saying, Well, you know, I
want the best for you. I want you to understand what we're saying here, because you're important to
this tribe. And we wouldn't want you to lose the safety you have with this tribe. Now, they can say
that lovingly, but behind that as a threat, isn't it, that if you hold on to your Islam, you no
longer have the security of the tribe. When we your fair game, you're going to be fair game. So you
		
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			can you don't have to raise your voice or, you know, actually issue verbal threats. But if behind
your words, you are trying to scare somebody, intimidate somebody, or manipulate their emotions in
some way, you're no longer in a beautiful argument, that's gone. A lie basically tells us they may
use these tactics, don't use those back. Right. So that's one to instill fear in some way direct or
indirect, instill fear, or the use of force, or the use of a threat.
		
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			Another very common logical, maybe I'll talk to you about two or three of them today. And that's it,
maybe we'll we'll see. Because I want you to really think about those and how they play a role in
your life in mind, these kinds of tactics. Another logical fallacy is that you can make someone feel
awkward or ashamed for saying what they're going to say to make their argument. So the person is
thinks twice before they make their case, even though there are cases logical cases, reasonable
their cases based on evidence, but they start thinking if I say that you'll be offended, right? or
How could I, there's an elder, I'm going to talk to them like that. I'm going to say that to them.
		
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			I'm going to say the religion of your ancestors was based on a myth.
		
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			And I can prove it to you how hurtful their feelings be. I shouldn't say that to them. I should hold
that back. And to make someone feel like I, you know, I'd love to argue with you. But you're so
disrespectful. And they're not disrespectful with because you're not being disrespectful because
you're using bad words, or because you're being humiliating or cursing or anything like that. You're
being considered disrespectful, because the facts that you are presenting the truth that you are
presenting is offensive to someone who wants to hold on to a myth. It's hurting their feelings. And
also you're saying all of us are wrong.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			You're saying it doesn't make any sense. Why? Because you said so. Now, here's the evidence. You
know, Ibraheem alehissalaam used to do that he had to do that. He had to tell his father, that he
knows something that that has no idea what he's talking about. In Nicaragua and even a Mullah
meiotic for tyranny that's really offensive to tell your father I know something you don't know. You
need to follow me
		
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			to question the father's religious beliefs and say I don't see any any sense in what you're doing.
There's no evidence
		
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			behind it, there's no reasoning behind it. And because you're smart enough to know that what you're
going to say, even if it's not meant to be offensive, but the thing about truth is truth is
offensive.
		
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			The straight facts are offensive to somebody who wants to hold on to a lie. They don't want to let
go of that. And that can start influencing you. And you say, I should use this argument. But really,
I don't want to hurt their feelings. So I won't use this argument.
		
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			The way you speak, I've talked about that 100 times, I'm not talking about you taking a
disrespectful tone, or saying using bad words or bad tactics, but the truth doesn't care about
feelings.
		
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			The truth is just the truth. If they need to hear that, even if it hurts their feelings, in an
argument, you shouldn't be considerate of their feelings and withhold information. You understand,
and that's the second. So one was, you're afraid for your safety, and you held back. And the other
is you're afraid for their feelings, or they're going to get offended, and you hold back and that's
again, a logical fallacy. Allah says stick to what is most beautiful, what's the most beautiful
thing the truth? was the most beautiful thing what Allah has given me Allah has given is definitely
offensive. There's no doubt about it. Koran is beautiful to a believer, but it's very offensive to a
		
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			disbeliever, isn't it? It's so it's so offensive, that the nicest human being that ever lived so
long earlier, saddam became public enemy number one, because he was saying
		
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			these words were coming out of his mouth. And they were so offensive to people that they're ready to
kill him. He hasn't committed murder. He hasn't used bad words. He's just spoken the truth, hasn't
he? But the Quran is such blazing truth that it scorches those who want to hide behind lies, who
want to stay in the end, it's almost like, let me tell you the example. If someone if the lights are
off for a long time, and you're in the dark for a long time, and somebody turns the lights on what
happens to your eyes. I know kind of what being exposed to the truth feels like, right? When you
give light to somebody like that. You're like, no, I shouldn't be I should care about their eyes,
		
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			keep them in the dark. No, don't turn it all the way on. Go easy. No, if they are saying, well,
there's no light, there's no light. No, there is here. And that may be offensive to somebody. They
may be hurtful to somebody, but you got to do what you got to do. You've got to speak truth. And
that's again, what jardel humbleth. Here. This is not by the way. Hey, Mom, I heard about today's so
I've decided to drop the truth on? No, because the dial is for people who come to you with argument.
Yes. We're not talking about just any conversation. And family matter is a completely different
matter. family situations are complicated, they're completely different. There are plenty of
		
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			examples in the Quran of people that made argument or said horrendous things to family. And there
were other ways of dealing with it. And we'll I'll show you those two. I'll show you you know, maybe
in a later hub, how to deal with some of them. But now we've got two logical fallacies, one where
you're scared to where you're scared for somebody else's feelings and therefore you bend, you know
the truth a little bit. The third and final one for today that I want to share with you is when
someone speaks on your behalf, let me fix that. Someone Miss speaks on your behalf.
		
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			And then refutes what they say they claim you said this was actually done in the time of the
Prophet. Listen, I'll give you an example. So this sits better in your mind.
		
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			The Quran clearly says Jesus is not the Son of God, right? The Quran clearly says that Jesus is just
a human being Yes. Some quarter ish came out and said, well, first he says Jesus is the Son of God.
Now he says Jesus is not the Son of God. It doesn't make any sense.
		
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			I don't even understand these people with their contradictions. Wait, what? The Quran never said
Jesus is
		
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			the Son of God. But you came out with so much confidence and claimed that the Quran says in fact
that Jesus is the Son of God. And then you said, Oh, it contradicts itself by saying Jesus is not
the Son of God. Therefore, it's not acceptable because he's got too much contradiction going on.
This is a game that is played when someone Miss speaks on your behalf. While you believe this,
there's this one, which doesn't make any sense. And they'll come up with the most absurd claim
against you, that you they say you said or you believe. And when you hear that you're like, wait,
I've never said anything like that. I've never believed anything like that. Where do you get this
		
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			from? And you get sidetracked, undoing the misquote. I never said that. No, that's not what I
believe. That's not what I No, no, no. And you know what they've done. It's so clever. What they've
done is now they've taken you off your actual argument. And they've tangled you up in a new creative
argument that they created that never existed.
		
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			It never it never had to be acknowledged because you never said that anyway.
		
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			The way the Quran deals with that, is it ignores it altogether.
		
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			It just ignores it altogether and reinforces what it says to begin with, instead of saying no, the
Quran never said that in the masala Sangha, like, Adam holla calm and as far as Jesus is concerned,
he's just like Adam, as far as God is concerned. He made it from dirt and said Be and he became,
that's it done, there is no reason to undo the misconception. And because that's a new word,
nowadays, that is probably the most appropriate for this kind of logical fallacy. You get so busy
undoing misconceptions that you lose sight of your original argument to begin with, with Jonathan
hability. here as an actually means you don't get sidetracked. You don't get pulled into creative
		
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			allegations of what you supposedly believe, or what people believe on your behalf. And you get
swayed this way. That way, the other way? Actually, no, you can. You want to deal with that you can
deal with that. But we're gonna stay on subject. Because people who argue, either they really want
to get to the truth, or they just want to throw you off track. That's their only goal, throw you off
track. And the way they can throw you off track is by distracting you from one side. And another
side. Another side. And I've I've said this in previous such as well concluded with this, this hobo
with the following.
		
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			In arguments, sometimes they come somebody comes to you and says, Well, what does Islam say about
XYZ? What does that say about women? Right? And you're talking about women, but then why do you want
to kill everyone?
		
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			No, we don't. We don't want to kill anybody. What do you mean want to kill it? And you know, why do
you believe in the moon God? Moon God? What moon God, don't you follow the rules? You worship the
moon? Is that crazy? Why do you people worship the moon? And so you they say one crazy thing? And
you're like, No, no, you're not crazy. Let me show you that. We're not crazy. And you're so busy
answering question number one, they and as soon as you're done answering that you're not even
finished answering that. What do they do? Real quick, crazy. Question number two. And you're thrown
off to question number two, and then number three, and then number four, and you're so busy
		
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			answering everything Islam is not. You're so busy arguing everything that you don't believe
		
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			that they never give you a chance to actually talk about what you do believe. See how clever that
is? And an hour will go by? And you're like, ah, I answered all your questions, right? And you know
what they'll do? If the answer 20? If they asked 20 of those crazy questions. Well, you never really
answered question number one.
		
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			I'll go back to number one.
		
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			I can't do this. This is hard. Why don't they get it? Because they don't want to get it. They didn't
throw these questions at you. Because they want the answers. They want these questions because they
want to see you stumble. They want to see you stagger. That's that's the point of debate. You know,
and these are, again, what you get if this was a, you know, like a sport, these would be illegal
tactics. Right? But an argument, this stuff is used all the time, all the time to throw somebody off
to make them feel like, well, you couldn't really answer my question. So I guess, you know, we'll
leave it at that. It's okay. Don't worry about it. And now you feel like you didn't have the
		
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			answers. Or you feel stumped, even though you didn't say anything wrong. You get it. It's the
impression of it, that matters to them. For us. It's the facts, the information, the truth itself
that matters. So this last portion of the ayah when we talk about Allah, and by the way, God,
listen, just Allah didn't restrict the ayato argument happens between Muslims and non Muslims, about
religion. It could be arguments within Muslims. It could be disagreements within ourselves. These
tactics can be used by anybody. It's not used by one group and not the other, right? You and I can
use these tactics, we can make somebody feel bad for giving a response. By the way, if they give a
		
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			good response, if they give a completely logical response, what can you do to make them feel bad for
being right? I can't believe you just said that.
		
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			Really, this is this is how you answer me. This is really what you wanted to say.
		
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			Those words just came out of your mouth. Now, those kinds of statements when you've left something
now, nothing wrong. You've just said there's only one God or something like that. Something basic,
something true. But somebody can respond in such an offended way that you're like, taking step back.
And I don't want to hurt your feelings will kill kill, kill, stop arguing. Okay, leave it leave, you
leave it, you know. And so when the law says we're judging home validity here, we have to become
mindful of a number of logical fallacies that can throw us off. And we have to rise above them and
learn how to rise above all of them. When we are engaged in that kind of argument. And by the way,
		
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			at the end of it, if, if you're talking to somebody and you don't slip up in any of these, you don't
get trapped in any of these. You know, I've only
		
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			I mentioned three today, but maybe in future, who knows, we'll talk about more. But if you if you
refuse to fall and skip and slip up, then you'll notice that the person you're talking to, will
start getting extremely offended.
		
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			Because their tricks aren't working, you're staying on point. And at that point, they can start
getting really ignorant with you. And when they start getting ignorant with you, then Allah says is
the heart of our human journey, do not call us Allah, when the ignorant and when the outrageous,
talk to them address them. They just say peace, and we're done. We're not having this is no longer a
conversation. This is just insulting. Now, this is you're just too angry to make sense. Now,
whatever. So you walk away peacefully, and you just say peace and you're done. There's no reason to
see an argument through and stay in it when there's no point. And when you see a person is not
		
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			coming to reason and getting frustrated and angry, and all of that, maybe another time or salon,
it's okay. You don't have to you don't have to stay in it all 20 rounds, you don't have to do that.
You don't have to see them knocked out. It's not a contest. The point is stick to that which is more
beautiful. And don't let things get ugly, at least on your side. But that you can control the other
person right? They can be let things get ugly. And when they do let things get ugly, you have the
choice to walk away. milazzo didn't give us the sense to know when to walk away. And to be able to
hold on to these principles of argument in light of a large book, and make us a source of goodness
		
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			for people. So when genuinely, people come and debate and I should have said this in the beginning.
But I'll conclude with that. There are two kinds of people that will argue people that want to argue
for the sake of arguing and want to see You humiliated and people that actually want to know the
truth. They can argue to write and when they are present, they're not going to use logical
fallacies. They're going to use reason and evidence. That's what they're going to use. And those
kinds of people when they come to us or when you know if you're one of those people realize we'll
help you find an opportunity where you can engage in a healthy back and forth a healthy exchange
		
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			where the truth rises to the top. Monica Loney, welcome, Phil. Hakeem. Wonderful anyway, yeah, it
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