Muslims Strengthened by Conversions of Hamzah and Umar
Munir Ahmed – Fiqh us-Seerah – Ep.13
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Praise be to Allah we praise Him we seek His forgiveness, guidance and mercy. We send peace and praise, choices to peace and praise on his final messenger Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, we ask Allah to forgive us our sins, the guidance, he was always guided right. And we ask Allah for useful knowledge and understanding and wide sustenance. To our knowledge. He alone we depend. And he to him is our goal and return and there is no power of Mike except that of a law law rebate to him.
Continuing with this session in federal Sierra,
we ended last time with the point around fifth six year of prophethood. You remember we mentioned about the first migration into Europe to add the senior Ethiopia
when the joshy the Christian King was the king
and the return of some of those people migrants who went there.
Amongst them, there are only about 11 as we said Sahaba for female member of 15 people to get us a handful came back and I noticed the story he lost I don't want to go into details to recap was the story of the euro of the soul must assume the recitation of surah a sector
so that legend Sorry, sorry, number 53, at the end of which is such that and the story mentioned and interfered with His revelation to the extent of the promises and recycling when mentioning Alma natural oza. Allah men Al Azhar Almanac, Oprah, that he was made to recite a Satan's
interference
chilko Bharani Caligula,
Caligula, these are the ancient gods of old, esteemed gods, like praising them and that nyesha in Nevada when Allah told
that we hope for that intercession, which is nonsense, nonsense, and believing the story, which is not authentic at all, would destroy any resemblance of the wahi from Allah being protected, because if shutdown can interfere here, cynjohn can interfere with the rest of the revelation and some orientalist Christian love this story, because of course, it does exactly that it denounces the esla the protection of the civil assassin and the message and its honesty, and, and breaks the protection of the Quran in the end. So this story is alive, the whole idea of Satanic Verses a lie.
And we don't need to go into that again. But so those who came back from the first page will realize that the bush recall was still most people are still going out. persecuting Yeah, and treating people badly, unbelievers badly. Okay. And amongst the people who were involved in that treatment that late, some of the ones I mentioned before, some of the leadership level getting their cronies to do it. Yeah, but others were doing it themselves. And amongst them was somebody called up
Over the top
over ignore Tom Palmer, the son of a pub. And many believers mentioned his harsh treatment of male and female. Yeah, he's beatings and boom.
As some of the ones who actually escaped obviously it was because of him.
And so therefore, indicative of when we come to come back to the second migration to him, to me senior but a bit about oma than
Bob, it seems that Hamza the uncle of the prophet SAW Allah embraced Islam, a year or so before,
probably more around the fifth year of prophethood. And
around the six year
the story of Hamza first, which is very popular about Abu Jamal, the cronies at the harem, insulting the prophet SAW Selim, we've seen already from the story, constant insult, abuse, and even tried to kill him. That is, there's no doubt about that. But the specific story about him in something that prophesied at one time, and somebody passing it on to Hamza who came back after a hunt, and didn't like, how alcohol especially treated his nephew and insulted him in front of everyone, and him coming to the heart of them, and with his bow in his hand and bashing
our gel on his head or face with his bow. Yeah, and saying, How dare you insult my nephew? Yeah, and in his emotion, saying, if you want to insult track with me, because I have the same fear disease, and later realizing what he said, and faith in Brittany embraced Islam. This story has no son of no authenticity, I'm afraid. It's a lovely story. We like to tell it.
But it's a tale.
Something similar may have happened a lot. But we don't tell it as fat did happen.
It has no effect is
the only authentic one that I came across
was a ballbuster. He actually
who was a mushrik, who heard about john is something the Messenger of Allah, all roughly must have had some kind of friendship or relationship and respect for the prophesies for them. And he didn't like what john was saying and hit him with a jawbone.
But not that maybe people have got mixed up with the story, but that wasn't the case. But we know for a fact that comes up embrace Islam, how it happened. We have no dude.
Our mo hubub we know which is authentic that the prophet SAW Selim
had actually made a dua to Allah subhanho wa Taala. Say Allah eisele Islam, be a habit be a hub behind your Raji lane LA.
Allah strengthen Islam with the one which is most loud for you amongst these two people. So Allah promises making a choice by saying which one ever you choose Yala.
And somebody who are making big
rain and rain or as others clarify our rain because Mujahid was called john, he didn't call himself john Liddy.
Father ignorance. I don't think anybody had that name. So
he was the nickname given by believers, because the name was an inner hakon haccombe has to do with wisdom, isn't it? Our son, our hakam his father was one of the hakam links with the root word of hikma wisdom, isn't it? So in a retaliates to that the Sahaba believers called him instead of a hat on they said, his father of ignorance, if he had the wisdom, he would have believed in other words, but amorous his name So amoraim means Allah, Allah oppose us and prayed for either of them
to strengthen Islam, which shows again for us, something I mentioned a few sessions ago to you that the publicized and NASA album
now adding a filter was that
Islam is that fucking that's the condition. Human beings are like precious metal products are bringing out potential.
Yeah, a layabout. This is me explaining a layabout, who's a non believer is very likely to be a layabout, even as a believer, but a strong character who plays a big role in the community.
Yeah, he's likely to do so. with Islam as well in general, yeah. So best, like he said, the promises of like, like precious metals like silver and gold, they are human beings. The best of those in ignorance are those best in Islam, either fuck you if they understand.
This is one of the evidences I use in the hockey who said, he didn't just stop there. He didn't say the best of those entirely, or those best of Islam. He said with a condition
which we met while for the beginning. Yeah, Allah give us understanding. Many Muslims have lost this. This understanding, the understanding is what gives us strength. The understanding is what gives us ability
and conviction. And it's the karma, you can see understanding. And that how we marvel at the message that we have is because of the understanding that because the musical notes of the brand only
as many of us think so is there a puppy who underlying that point again, which shows you again, that these two characters, officers are praying for the consumer very important characters in society in Jabalia, both of them are non Muslim at this stage when the focus was making the drop.
So either one of them promises a feeling that they would strengthen the Muslims or Islam itself such as standing.
You understand? Either one of them had such a standard,
john, although
both were cruel.
And they both are cruel to the believers.
Even more, so he was in crude rasulillah
on one hand and got to that stage.
So this
is certainly true.
Our will photography and being the receiver being the one who embrace is absolutely true, of course, many Sahaba said Subhana Allah, when Omar embraced Islam, Islam was strengthened, Muslims became strong.
When Omar embraced Islam, we were able, we were able for the first time to start doing our Salah at the huddle.
Remember, they had problems with the prophets or something slightly behind the believers following it.
So authentic report mentioned what Amara says embraced Islam. He strengthened Islam. Yeah, and he would fight. Physically he was scared. He would fight again.
Come on, then.
Yeah, they were a bit. But at times, we will see that they also beat him up as well. But but no doubt you see from the very many reports from Sahaba authentic saying that Islam Muslims was strengthened by embracing Islam, which was
the one that says that Aloma Israel Islam, Allah stands on Islam,
probably saw some law being answered.
And,
of course, one of the most famous stories of conversion to Islam.
Many people write about this all books, you read about a little bit of cryptography read, whether it's individuals, or stories, or Sierra books, you'll find the story of Tom and how he
how he decided one day in his rage that he was going to put an end to the root of the clause, which was Mohammed. So he took his sword any scabbard and round his neck and he decided to go to try and find him to end it all because he was doing enough harm to all the followers, he decided to go to the root and how you met somebody called New aim. Who said to him Well, before you go elsewhere, or son of a pub, you got problems in your own house so that you need to go and sort out because your sister You know, and her husband, they already have the same faith, really.
So on this is how the story goes, that he turns on a diverse his tracks and goes to his sister's house. Fatima is a sister, Fatima Benton football. Her husband is who
side 11 z
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Who is a son Remember I said early on from one of the the upright people who didn't believe in ship that they died before the Buddha came for silvassa. They were known as the acna because they believed in one God, they didn't used to. Yeah.
So Simon Zeid
was
You can see there was some influence and why he would embrace Islam because if it were boy's father it already told him that he was a believer in,
in in Shahada.
So the story goes on the mother turns up at the house and hubbub and will erupt. One of the companions. Remember, hubbub is the blacksmith.
The blacksmith of
acid. acid, why?
Yeah, who he wouldn't give him the money, remember?
So, so how Bob is apparently in the house, recycling some on the head, overcoming.
And he hides in the cupboard. And our comes in and
challenges his
sister and her husband, I hear you take a risk Islam.
And they deny it first. Well, Who told you that? So then it becomes violent towards the husband. And as he's being violent, they both can say, do what you want to learn, we have actually. And he, he accidentally or otherwise strikes a sister as well. She's bleeding. And apparently this softens his attitude, because he sees his sister hurt. And because of that, he is then apparently saying it comes down. And the story as you know, goes on to say that how he
how he says he wants to hear the hubbub comes out the cupboard now. He wants to hear some of what they've been listening to. He wants to see in it. And the story continues with how
the sister says, over No, you can't, you can't hold this parchment, whether we're reading, because you are legends, you're impure info. So he goes in, have a bath and comes back and then hold the pause button recite what it says and marveled by.
And then he goes, and that that story goes is influences him and he goes and embraces Islam, at
the hands of the supervisors
that are giving you a nutshell,
there's more detail to it that story, that whole story of a friend has no basis.
It is not authentic.
It is not authentic, what is true, what is very likely what we know of it is that his sister was a Muslim. And her husband was
and and like other Muslims came and the offer of the service offering was offensive. And like other we should again, who eventually became Muslim, he'll have heard the crowd as well. And it is well known also that Amr was very eloquent in language that is established. So hearing from in different scenarios is likely to have an impact on all women.
But how he finally embraced Islam, this is our story
has no real authenticity.
I'm afraid so even though it's nice. What also goes against the idea it doesn't part of it. So it doesn't make sense.
When we look at the story, so it's it's been put together by someone that
went over the top didn't embrace Islam, when with his sister, and his brother in law, he embraced it later on. So when,
according to a story, when a sister is saying you are emotionally contagious, you can't touch the Quran.
Don't have a wash and a bath and then come back when you had the Washington bath and came back. Was he nudges appeal?
He was still mostly poisoning.
So do the whistle count for the Muslim
was a flaw with the pro story The problem with it?
The problem secondary because all of these don't decide on that basis that the stories are true because they decide on the basis of critique of the center of the chain.
The chain is
not
not even Dave, but
very, very.
So on those basis, the story is
rejected. And we shouldn't teach
the fact part of it I've already told you which is established.
So this takes place most authentically around the time between five and six years of profit out of Nevada.
And at one time, shortly after this what is authentic and mentioned authentic beef. When Omar embraced Islam in the honor of his son, who was an eyewitness, even though he was young, he says in the Hadith, he said
I understood I knew what was going on. To my my father Omar embraced Islam. He called us for the one who was the announcer. I forgotten the name of the person from the wish fix who announced things. It was obviously there was an announcer well known. We used to go on issue like announcements in the in the harem. So he said, you know, I'd like to know who that please take me to him.
So, they told him who it was. And apparently he goes to visit this Muslim and says, Do you know by the way, that I
have the faith of Mohammed Assad's I've declared my Shahada in lilac among others.
So the man leaves and our follows him and in the Omer says, I followed my father following him, because he what he does, and this mushrik then goes to the harem, and he said, in Harlem, all the various mushfiqur as usual secondary groups, and he screamed the head he says, the top of his voice, that Ahmed Abner hottub, you should know has become a heretic. He said, Saba. Saba. Saba
Quran uses the same word, but not how the Muslims used it was Quran uses for inala Dena amanu will levina haddou one nesara was sabihin saw the income from Sabah
sabi original meaning is one who changes his religion his or her religion.
So for most rakes, he had a negative connotation was changing religion. People said they become heretics. Yeah, the Quran because Quran is giving good news for those people
are working hard when the sada was saw between him and an ally well yo will happy Why me lasallian fella whom Angelo interrupt beam while I
was giving good news amongst the believers and the Christian and the Jews who believe in a lot of the last etc, etc. So there is use the one who changes their religion from wrong to believe in one God unbelieving, the afra Browns using
but for the most strict Saba, they used in a negative sense. So they're saying when he's announcing a sin always become a heretic. So almost standing behind him saying he's lying.
He's lying, but they are St. Clair de la la illallah wa Chateau de mahama de la sua. So he's shouting behind him, saying he's a liar. I've actually I've come to the path of truth, have declared there is no God but Allah and Mohammed.
And apparently, on this occasion, they all jump on him and they start beating him up, but he stands his ground
on this occasion to start meeting you, and the one who comes to defend him is one amongst them. The same person I mentioned earlier, some reports mentioned authentically it was
as an arsenal while again,
but he doesn't he see they do it according to the days of ignorance, they have a pact or some sort of friendship from the early days. So on that basis, he wants to get over protection not on the basis that you know that people should be allowed to embrace Islam etc. But they do it in their inner wisdom like that, like some of them, you'll see later will give protection for some lesser Some even though the Muslims
because that was they're following their own methodology,
their own culture.
So, but they saw one instance where they did pounce on him and beat him other times. There was no doubt that many of them were actually frightened of taking our disposal they're standing here
and that Islam and Muslims will strengthen
Nevertheless,
we come back now to see is all happening around the same sort of time we don't know the exact chronology but around the same year and time around the sixth of June we have now because the
rumor of mush, ricotta, maca, all embracing Islam has been proved to be false. So now those few that come back from the first migration to Abyssinia, they go back with a larger group of course from permission.
And remember the points are some already said in the hava Mulliken law US law had done in the nation a few last time but in the land of Abyssinia is a king know what is wrong with him. And he knows he just Christine just
so on this basis, now a much larger group is mentioned 80 plus people 80 plus Sahaba. Now migrate in small groups and go to
other similar
Second migration.
However, of course, when 80 of people disappear, in that, in Makkah, they notice even though they've escaped in small groups, so the Muslim leaders decide to send people after them to a mystery. And I mentioned this last time, without going into the rest of the story, one of them was
us,
us.
And with one of the companions forgotten his name, even though
his first name is his accompanying partner, which leaves us well known to be eloquent in speech has a special friendship with the Abyssinian King, and burying lots of gifts not just for the king, but her qualities as well, for the bishops, etc. Like a form of bribery,
in real terms, to bring them back.
So this is what happens. So we find a story now at the court of digestion.
So they said that these people are heretics.
They've caused a lot of trouble split families. So they got in that dark picture, of course, as they see, cause cause problem with families, the heretics are fair, and we want them back to deal with them.
So my joshy calls the people.
And of course, people are going to be they all can't speak for most of the Choose a representative.
And the wisdom in choosing the representative is, is important as well. And the choose to represent them called Java, in that we thought it was most of us.
This is authentic, Java, and they have a valid, of course, is the brother of Alexander lowen, and the cousin of the soul.
And in the parents, it is also documented that Jaffer is closest in appearance to the soul.
So parents, you know, he's smart and eek and handsome.
But also eloquent, he must have been eloquent in speech.
So in picking because
Allah, Allah had the severely or the Oh, a llama he could have he must have been severely underweight, Allahu Allah wa Sera,
a call on to Allah with insight.
Of course, when you're choosing a representative, to speak to be a spokesperson, you don't put a dial in front of you who doesn't know anything.
He's picked some you pick somebody who's going to be able to eloquently as well not somebody who's gonna just fumble around. Yeah, try and find the words or somebody is going to misrepresent they don't really know much about what somebody who knows
what they're representing.
So the crown well actually mentioned
deep inside.
So as I said, in the past, when it comes to this is Da Vinci now, you're also taking sanctuary somewhere, many lessons in this field.
And when you're taking century, escaping from there escaping from the kafar, who are treating you badly, but it can be taking century when you're leaving places, even when there's believers, as has happened in our present time, and still does when believers are actually carrying out voluntarily on you know, what's happening around and has happened for many decades and long period of time as well. And we've come around ancestors come to sixth century,
trusting them or others are going to have you come.
You come with a bit of humility, don't
you come with humility.
And when you're being addressed by the king now addressing it all stand up arrogantly.
He knows stand up arrogantly.
So
the king is asking.
And here you see who do you represent? Who do you stand for represent? I've said in the past, you don't send somebody with a patch on one eye, the hook on the other and say, Well, he's our representative. He's gonna tell us what we want. I
don't think I'll go down very well.
How he goes publicly how he's perceived. So here is somebody who's handsome. Somebody who is eloquent, somebody who was perceived as well. The people will listen somebody who has insight into it, as somebody who represents the views and the reality
What actually happened? and Java speeds is amazing. Really. It has various versions I saw so long the version in in a sham, which I have some question marks with but the shorter version certainly on selama is the one who was there as well. from Omaha to me, she was not the prophets wife at that time. So she reports about and then in past she's given summary he said, it said things on those lines to defend Islam
to give the message of Islam.
So if we take snippets of it, Jonathan here we call it he says, IU l Malik, Woking.
We'll start with we don't recognize your authority.
What kind of King we don't believe in Kings.
Imagine starting like I saw our geezers do some of our geezers do nowadays I'm sorry for using that word, but that's what I would say. Just you know,
think of what you hear and
then stand arrogantly or your medic with respect or King
could not own Algeria we were a people of ignorance. Now we must now why not kilometer? We used to worship idols and eat the dead carrion. We're not used for why we're not taught or hum we used to come to all kinds of lewd acts. Yeah, and, and break our
family ties so easily want to see all Jawad ignore the the the neighborly needs or protection. We have palooka we mean Naga is under strong amounts of wood, you know, take advantage of the week.
For kunaal azali Kata bathala willinger assumenda we will like this until Allah God Almighty sat down towards a messenger from amongst us, as the Quran says, For all messengers
by Ursula fee cumbre soo
min come yet Lu LA.
As we sent down a messenger to you from amongst you.
There are people yeah, follow me. Again and again, proclamations. This is one big red,
because they care for their people that love that people that want to save that people.
And there's a wisdom and a hikma in that.
So if others are going to come as well, their approach must be on those lines of care. Consider additional love, and mercy. So we care we do not as though we care, but we really must genuinely care.
Not only for NASA who said we knew his lineage and we know his trustworthiness and truthfulness. What America we know is chastity and we know he's trustworthy, trustworthiness. But that is a lie. He learned what he got one wahida Budo.
He called us to say I believe in one God,
the oneness of God and to worship Him alone.
And he goes on mentioned a few of the things.
One hand on your firewall, he prevented us from forbade us from doing lewd acts. Yeah, walk all the zoo and false claims and false words. What accurate value team stopped us from just eating the wealth and property of the orphans, a walk on formosana
etc, etc. It goes on. Some of this is longer version, I have question marks about it because it talks about a sacar Sol and Salah,
which came much later.
So this one, which is a longer version, the short version, which is more authentic doesn't have so much data. So this question marks about the level of vision that Shannon has in his
virgin here. But nevertheless, the overall message was that and
Java Of course goes on to say we did this and these people, they oppressors. They were tyrannical rulers, they have role models. That's how they're treated. So our Prophet told us to go to a land and seek your protection. And he said no one is wronged under you.
Also nothing the truth about how they can and how they see the king.
Even though he's Christian,
that we trust you. We entrust our lives to you.
That's amazing, isn't it? So the Kings move by this obviously.
So the king says, surely the light your profits abroad, is the same light coming the sources the same lamp
No doubt that the light came from
the same source it recognizes what is ghost because this is a commonality, isn't it?
So he said, he says,
show us something of and recite for us. So the parchment is past Apparently, the authentic river I mentioned to the bishops and the cold tears were gathered and the king as well. And Jaffa in every polyp require mentions he recites from part of surah Maria we don't know which part nothing authentic in any report about which verses it was but apart into a cell it wasn't the whole of it because if you sit down recycling for money and you see
so certainly a part of it and the interest in Islam money if you look at it, and here's another wisdom
I've seen some of our people in Dawa some of our young people and you see sometimes you feel like slapping them rarely.
gentleness you try and explain to them with gentleness and mercy but often it doesn't get through because they'd like to say when they get an opportunity like that to stand up and say, but it's the crown you mustn't hide anything say Well yeah, you're carefree rule law Buddha boom Ah, boom. That one you do this with the king? What Why don't they just choose that as a verse.
So you prefer we don't wish
etc, etc. Yeah, or others thing to do with profile and denigrating them and insulting them etc, in a way you want.
or pick verses say that you're heading for Hellfire were the only ones No, but Subramanian he chose that.
Jonathan shows that.
You see the wisdom of choosing a Swami and it begins with a story of Yeah, john No, john Zakaria the story of Marian and I Salaam and Avi Salah Islam of Moses of Idris
of Abraham. The story a little bit subnational?
So relevant they can relate to it? A bit like cool.
Cool. Yeah. Hello kita as the Quran says, to Allah, Allah Kalamata Sawa in Beynon, avena, como,
se, or people of the book, come to a word, come to a statement that is common between us both. So finding common ground is finding common ground, isn't it? That's why he said, this is a light from the same lamp, because he found common ground with you.
And you're coming to get their help and aid while still doing Dawa. without compromising the principles, but how you put yourself what you choose? is wisdom here, isn't it?
And in fact, in choosing is is the wisdom which brought out that commonality again. They're thinking oh, my goodness is the same same messengers. sent messengers, God and angels Gabriel come into money, Emma Islam in the recognize everything.
But
Subrahmanyam. And, you know, we don't know if it was through a translator. We don't know if Java knew the language. Nothing clear. He may have that might be another reason for choosing him. We don't know when I say may have. It's possible, isn't it?
Or it could have been through translators. And now, he was two translators. This is the first translation of the prologue.
People have problems with translations centuries later than they are though, shall we translate? Can we translate? Well, translations being done here? Because the 40 years they were all speaking Arabic have their own language.
And what is clear is the authentic that when he finished reciting from
him, hold the ground moves you doesn't it? But that is the absolutely, then melt you. They melt you. And you you recite Sora Maria Miam somebody has got a rhythm in itself as well. A rhythm throughout it. But then the meaning is so
I think melted.
That's why when he finished
and they understood,
you know, they understood then the joshy Christian King, and the bishops and quartier Christians who we now have is Trump's they understood better than most of our Muslims will understand today and that's why he was crying and his beard was wet, and they were all crying for the parchments in front of them is said we're full of tears that is
cold
and who didn't understand the difference.
And
probably
in this regard, that's why you mentioned
what Alice Walker says in the Quran.
Allah says
the nurse
was 85
he doesn't ask NASA.
NASA should then NASA
yahuda will levina ash Raku. Wala phi g then aparato. De Lille miroir. de la Vina La Nina all in all
valleca b n amin, whom is seen as one of Burnham, what is that room? What is that semi? Oh, come to that in a minute. The first part says, surely you will find the severity from human beings in enmity are those a towards the believers? Are those who are Jews and those who are Muslims?
That we should not take as general?
It is. One thing is clear, when Allah says that it doesn't mean all mushriks It doesn't mean all Jews, as many of our Muslims are drawn to conclusions. When mother says it like that either has implications to the time of Rasulullah Salah, those Jews and mushriks that we're dealing with him.
Yeah. And in contrast those Christians who they were coming across, yeah.
Or even if we generalize it, and there's some element of truth within in times to come, then amongst the Jews and amongst the mushriks, there'll be more or more enmity as compared in numbers and percentage to the Christians.
You understand the four hour clarified that
So, but not that we denounce and say every Jew and every Muslim and Hindu we say Are these enemies Anyway, there is no room for you to have that attitude at all.
So after saying that, unless I want to tell you then Accra Houma Wanda, and you will surely find the nearest in love. Little Athena Ravana to the believers, Allah Nepal in Nana Sora those who say we are Christians.
Closest does not fit with what we also recited last time, I will work on making a bet with the Muslim keen in Makkah of surah room.
When the prophecy of Romans Christian Rome, conquering Persia comes Yeah, who will be a joyous and happy
the believers in Mecca
because of our closeness again with them.
It goes in line with
a Corrado Hamada ledingham Elena Paulina Sora those who say we actually Christie and Veronica Vietnam, me and Amina, whom that that is because from amongst them, there are those cases seen a lot of bad
those who are
priests and monks, but more than that, why well,
that is because they are not arrogant.
Because arrogance is what
arrogance with ignorance and hate. It brings a hatred and more. But humility. Yeah. Which comes with monkeys and doesn't it? monks tend to be and praise them much more humble. And that kind of quality is what I was mentioning. And Mr. tombery mentions that this is in relation especially to those bishops when they were crying when they came across the to the next day. I want either sunny or mountain Zilla. rasuluh Tara, you know whom, and when they hear that which has been set down on the messenger, you see Tara Duffy domina Dam, you see the eyes well up and flowing with tears
minara fumina Huck, from the truth of the recognized
yaku Navara and they say Our Lord Amanda, we have believed that Tobin amercia headin righteous down amongst those who witness
and they were they were, they were crying.
And of course it fits perfectly for Naja, she doesn't
know Jessie fits perfectly, because we know from later time,
authentically that this
is known as I'll ask him,
I'll ask Him and for Him
For him, the prophet SAW so later on when we saw some was in Medina was in Medina. When this the joshy died and passed away. Before the prophet SAW some sent letters out to a miseries of different countries, he sent one out to the joshy in Ethiopia as well. But that was after the death of this Natasha.
Most of the semi joshy even though he called him the joshy, Majesty, like the ruler of his senior,
his name was asked him, and for him, the puppies are slim. When the news came, it is authentic, that when the news came of his death, they probably saw some sexual Sahaba Your brother has passed away, and going back to meet his Lord. So ask forgiveness for us.
And the purposes of lead Genesis Allahu janaza. fill the void for the absence, it is confirmed authentic.
He led the Sahaba in philosophy.
And the whole debate for Allah then starts afterwards.
Are you allowed to do slothful janazah for the person not there? Some said yes, we have listeners who
are saying yes, it's okay for the ones one believer who's died amongst disbelievers I didn't do something for him. So that's what I focus on someday. So various ways. We'll go into that, but that is a fact. So let's start with the NASA NASA nevermind start with the NASA stick far wasn't allowed for bushwhacking and confirm
the fact that progress on this and it was in later time in Medina shows that he was a believer and also mentioned he was a believer who kept these
hidden, hidden because of the fitna it may cause and many of them are talking about this because of that the big effect not that it could have caused the stability instability in the home land and warfare because of him announcing that
so they talk about the the lesser of the two evils are much more beneficial if you kept it hidden, etc.
Anyway so
about so what what did he say when when he's wet beard is wet crying he says
that's what he mentioned about this. This PC the light that came from the same same love sorry, not nearly as stable.
So he said go you're free to stay with security and peace in my lung. And and the last one is complain I refuse to refuse from taking them.
Now they decided seems like the next day or within a few days, they plot another thing that thing how can we get them for us comes up with the idea and comes in whispers McKinsey's air again says, You need to find out these people did insult your messenger. Jesus, they insulted They call him a slave.
slave. So it looks like it takes out of context.
Yeah, just a slave of God. Just say they call him a slave. You know, you guys are worshiping They call him a slave. In other words, they ridiculous trying to say they're ridiculing him and treating him like with this despise despising him. So forces disturbed by this and they call back again.
And here, of course, they're worried about, you know,
because the reality is they don't believe in these as being the son of God or God.
But here is the comma are not bending anything but telling the truth.
So
Jonathan, knowledge says, okay, yes, we believe that he is a slave of God,
and his word, and the spirit that God blew into Mary.
Yeah, look how he puts it all in context as mostly as they see, mostly as they see.
And the king the judge is satisfied with this is saying surely the difference between what you believe and what we believe is no bigger than this little stick, listen to this little
tweak.
And they're free to stay there.
And do this Come come a setback packing with a tail between the legs that we would say in English language that's not in our tail between the legs, it means that they go back empty handed, they don't succeed in their mission of trying to bring the Muslims back up to come back
with negative
Good news, I believe a stay there
for many years, actually, for many years. And it's interesting, we should realize that, that this emigration is not, you know, a funnel laughter time. Nowadays, when people and the world is Moloch, a global village now in those days, leaving your land and your family and your homes, where your ancestors, you've lived there all your life, people didn't travel around like I did that, to come into a foreign land with a foreign language and a foreign religion.
It was very difficult, but they did it because what they had back then was pain and torture.
But we don't have great details for how they lived. Because that would have been very interesting for us,
the present day,
but the fact that this took place, and this in this dialogue, and the way they dealt with the king, etc. There's some very good lessons of humility, of who you're dealing with. When you're asking for asylum, how you approach those people with respect and dignity, not arrogance, not looking down on them, not sending them to Hellfire before that before that before God decides, you become the judge and jury. And the executioner, as many of us are, we are with each other, never mind others.
We've seen a different thing. What's also authentic and interesting, let times mentioned in the report that sometime after, while the believers are settled there, there was a war broke out between the city and the neighboring land,
neighboring land, and Joshua went at the head of his military army to fight this army, which was threatening I'm a senior and as obey,
obey. And
one of the Sahaba was that was sent to go and scout and see how the military was doing in case the Sahaba themselves seven in case we need to go and help in the fight to defend our country.
Interesting.
Interesting.
So, this is authentic actually, as it happens, the report that came back was very was that majestic was victorious. And they came out there was no need for them to go and fight in the defense as well.
So many, many of the Sahaba wants Medina later on becomes established they go back.
And one of them one or two things which are
important.
One was that obey the law obey the law, even Josh,
it is very popular in many of the senior writings, but not authentic. What is authentic is the opposite. That that he became a Christian
that he became a Christian in a senior Christian land.
And that because of that, there was a divorce between him and on Habiba home Habiba was the daughter of
Sofia
was Sophia and married to obey the law, even judge. It was also the live in Joshua Wade to live in judge Baden live and jazz was Christian before the prophet SAW Islam came.
He became believer Muslim in Rasulullah, saw Salah we have no evidence actually, that he he actually does we have evidence he died a Muslim. We did not become a Christian in everything. It was because of his death. That Ohm Habiba became a widow, and then she was married by the joshy to the sola, sola, sola, in Medina. And after the marriage sent,
okay, so this is important for clarification. Some people use this. And this story is not true that he became Christian. And because of that there was a divorce and separation. It was because he died and he died, I believe.
JOHN for a solid, he stayed on. Interestingly, and he only went back around the seventh year in Medina, after he tried seven years after he drove so long drive around the time of Piper, as we'll see later on.
So obviously, it wasn't an obligation for the people in our senior to go to Edina for jobs coming so close family upon coming so much later. But the obligation was there in Macau, as we'll see later on.
One of the reports which is authentic or at least interesting that
one of the muhajir are the ones who emigrated to
The senior.
Yeah, and the group of them having a debate with Omar bin hopped up in Medina was it was it all joined them in Medina. So Omar is saying to this
Sahaba, who had migrated to I'm a senior and come later to join in Medina are set to them. We are more right than you over the puppets.
Because we migrated first
to Medina, you coming to join us just now after a few years. So we are more right.
And she said in response, how can you have more? Right?
Yeah, our migration we went through before you migrated? we migrated. We went through suffering and torture and fear. We left our homes. Yeah, we went to a far off land.
So she describing how it is. And she's saying if anyone's gonna have more, right.
She said, we migrated before you meaning we left in the sixth year of prophethood. You're talking about leaving in the 13th year of prophethood. So your your rationale doesn't make sense. So the pope is heard about the dispute?
And the processor said nobody has more right? What
is another way saying this is not the right criteria for more right over me. It's the same for all of you.
And he said, in fact, you get the good news for those who migrated first probably senior then migrated here the optimal route. But
that was an interesting thing that's mentioned in the debate to show you again to the first migration itself was
difficult times in regards to
another person who actually decided to migrate to at the senior but didn't get actually get there was a boubakeur appeal on
our Baccarat and made the plan and decided to go to a different route, why Yemen to migrate to Sydney, that was his plan.
But on the way he stopped at a place
because obviously, he was being persecuted as well. He seems spread to other provinces and was being persecuted. It wasn't just the the lowly tribes. So when he stopped at this place on his way hadn't crossed the sea, yet he came across a man called evening. Some say in the Abbe de Wanda, others say it Nirvana
was mostly men. He was a leader of his own tribe,
and respected and had allies and links in with Christ. So he said, What are you going to say I'm leaving, because when people are like this, this and this would make cetera by no means. How can people treat you your people treat you like this and throw you out and you're having to go migrate to foreign lands, when you're like this? You're truthful, honest, you know, you're we know you come with me, I will give you protection.
So he goes back with me, the whole now the wander back to Mecca, back to the harem, and in the Oneness
speaks and analysis to the Muslims gathered.
Abu Bakar is under my protection, how dare he say now why is it you treat your fellow human beings like this? This man is so and so like this, like this, and he's good. And you treat him like this? They say, Oh, well, you know, because he goes around recycling this, this crowd loudly everywhere affects our children or women.
We can't stand that time to make a promise that he will only recite this grant privately. We don't want to hear it. We don't want our children and families to be affected by it. So I've been given a set of data will you give me give me that promise you will build I said okay. I will give protection to him.
So the story goes on that some time passes. And, of course, it seems that amount of bucket goes even stronger, is faced with the recitation of the Quran. And he decides that why should he hide?
And he decides to recite the Quran in his courtyard.
And of course, as he starts reciting again, and it's well known because his daughter who will move me I shadow Donna is one of the things she said, when the prophet SAW son was remember his final illness. Remember, we'll come to it, but I'm just jumping ahead. In the final illness, the promises some couldn't get up to go leave the prayer. He told I should tell your father to to go leave the prayer. And she tried to argue with
Allah, but he's very soft. He starts crying.
He starts trying linear size.
So this is what he was like.
So he's reciting. And of course, the families, the yo us children, women the listening.
As a consequence of that, they complain to him, they're the one that I said, you made a pact with this guy, he said, he gave him protection, he started again,
we're gonna start giving meeting on the same treatment. And if you don't, if you don't stop him, then they're gonna come to visit, says, you know, like, I gave you protection, this was a condition over, I can only give you without condition. He said,
It's alright, I don't need your protection, I have somebody better and greater to protect me.
But I will carry on.
No,
that's what will stop because then the next stage now because they fail
the mysteries in at a senior, they come back. And now they want to take other action, because they're not very happy. because things are going the way of the believers, they don't want them to spread out there and grow strong, etc. So they're going to move on to the next stage. And that will be the
what is commonly called a social boycott.
But it's more of
in prison or encampment, or have in ship or be tolerant, which we'll look at last time for almost three years,
some of the most difficult years faced by a soldier
and his family.
And that's what we'll discuss next
call.
Any questions on what we've covered?
Is there any basis for jafra being appointed by others?
When they
took place?
It's possible. We don't have anything direct? It's very possible.
Nothing directly?
Yes, it's possible.
Yeah, it's possible. It's possible it was
possible, we don't say.
Two questions. The first is,
we've obviously been taught, I suppose earnestly about lots of stories have tried to
give us some light with respect to that. How do we know when we're reading ourselves about the authenticity? Is it a case of making sure that the story is related properly with strong?
Do we inevitably have to compare sources and reach a conclusion by that means? The second one related to this question is What about if the obviously the incidents happened with the Christian King? In other words, they're not scribes in that era, that would also record that must have been a historic occasion when the Muslims would come to them and recited such beautiful verses to
first of all,
it's a very difficult area
and Allah and fuqaha and people have had the critics have concentrated heavily quite rightly
on
all fell and a crawl over soon, Russell's gonna be part of that which was going to be part of
and therefore in history of that, that's why mallozzi like going back, right? You know, it's always been always said you need to take it with a pinch of salt, because people are well, so I leave them to it.
There are some authentic reports, etc, the others are passing ASAP.
And not doing any vetting today become you know, or not having the ability to do the vetting and critics of the Alma de of that caliber.
So that is the problem.
So,
one of the things of course, with it is always say, like, for example, the story of Amr.
And maybe something similar happened, we don't know. Because, again, when it comes to nonprofits, we can say what possibly could have been
unless, but with a profit size, we have to be very careful, not being in the category of lying on behalf of lying, something that we're claiming from the proper size, which never actually happen. We have to have firm authenticity in that regard.
Store life stories of the Sahaba it becomes a very tricky area, and there's no real
But I tell you to read Islamic history, including the lives of the Sahaba, very carefully, because majority of the history it is well known from not present time, from a long time on the time of the great 118, the majority of the story history
of Sahaba, and the times after them is written by the biggest liars in honey, from monofin Salama, the biggest liars, they were the historians. Unfortunately, they saw them as liars. Because what they meant was that we couldn't trust on the report. It was de la Paul, he said this, she said that, and this happened and that happened. Like, like the history of the rest of the world, actually, that's very important to remember. We don't look at British history and say, Oh, yeah, we lived there for the Tudors and everything. It's all authentic, what they did in a private who said, who said.
So if you want to compare it like that, then history there is no less than that. It's no less than that. Yeah, or any of the countries or People's History. But the what is not
to be found anywhere else, is what was done to the life story of the solar system is a hottie. Nobody's got something with isnaad and mutton and critiquer. Nobody has.
So that is what differentiate and takes it out completely. But if we apply those rules, and try and decipher Sera, like I said, then you're gonna have to sort of pare it down, pare it down.
So we get a clear picture. But there's plenty that in, like I said, the first source of syrup, like I said, in the first session is wrong itself. Then authentic a hottie. Yeah. And then there are all ama and the the one, a group of 10 2030 years ago who took the whole of Sita and they applied the rules of
the size of the DEA to all those various
NGOs are very important work.
So in that regard, it is a very difficult area, what I say to you is you can read about the whole of Russia been, you know, they'll be authentic stuff, and they'll be things that
you don't know. And if you go further than that, to further history, then read it like history.
Asking yourself Who wrote this? Because he's not wrong. And
I'm afraid that someone is
the second part of the question.
I know, it doesn't have to happen. But it has to be written in their angels.
Because for them, they are not writing, we are writing about the life of a pseudo lossless alum on our side, you got believers, and you've got the Messenger of Allah sending a group of people to migrate. So we're tabulating it because the rest on this is just another king
of Ethiopia, followed by another one followed by another one. So embassies are coming and going for them, these Arabs coming and going or settling there is not necessarily a big deal. But from that side of the story, it is a big deal, isn't it?
So we don't have to have it written down with them. And because it's not written down, we say, oh, it never happened.
Keeping in mind what I said to you about who's writing and how they're writing the history.
And how this has been written outside. Yeah. So where's the reliance?
Even from an honest man who's looking at it?
Those who are critiquing everything, they're saying, Who said this? Who do you get it from? Who did she get it from? Etc. And they saying, is he truthful? Did he pass it? That's what's being done to find out that they went to Allison here, and that
the Joplin marathon spoke and he said this, and even then I'm telling you, in what he said, there's some debate.
We question it.
And we can pare it down to what's most authentic,
and say the rest of law.
Anything else?
So inshallah we're going to have a summer break, because many families are going away.
And so we don't miss out. We'll start at the beginning of September. Now inshallah, back with these sessions. I don't know how many sessions I haven't counted how many sessions is going to take,
but it's certainly going to take a lot many more sessions than what I did with the CDs originally 1012 years ago. I think there's about 25 CDs and we're already on about 12. I think,
is it well done. We'll keep in good track better than me. 13. We haven't
Got to be his right and Medina period is a lot longer than ever compared in details. So, yeah, I said originally it's probably going to take us about six months but anyway, Allah help us benefit from it and enlighten us and increases any man and taqwa and give us a beneficial knowledge with understanding and increases in love for the final messenger to humanity was sent as a merciful whole of creation along Amin.