Mohammed Hijab – Intellectual Seerah Part 5 – The Prophethood

Mohammed Hijab
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Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah wa barakato. How you guys doing? Welcome to the fifth session of the Sierra, the critical seated intellectual Sia, what we're going to go through the zero or we've been going through this era in a way which is, has a multidisciplinary aspect, where we're looking at things critically, while we're anticipating some of the interrogations of the enemies of Islam and the orientalist and those who want to attack Islam, as well as making argumentative cases for the veracity of Islam. And today, we're going to be talking about something extremely important, which is prophet hood. And when the problem as salam he received, why, from Allah subhanho wa Taala when

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he became a prophet, and this is just the first light for those who remember the game we done last time, we looked at the lineage of the Prophet Mohammed Salah Salem. So that's just for you to refresh your memory on that, you might not need to know all the names. But if you just know four or five names, it gives you a Inshallah, like a reminder of some of those those things. Because memory is one of those things that needs like a muscle, it needs to be completely like refreshed and stuff. And before we get into it, there's one thing that I didn't actually mention, last time we spoke about because there isn't that many, or there aren't that many strong Hadith authentic ideas about,

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which is the sort of Zaytoven Hadith. Now say they've been Hadith that was the adopted son of the Prophet Muhammad wa salam, he was the freed slave of the program Sasselov. And there's one story which I came across which, in fact, a lot of the scholars like Nigel last Eleni, who's a major scholar of Hadith, and others, like even this has mentioned in Bible came and said mad and other books has mentioned, which is the story of it's a very interesting story, because I will speak about this even more, and we speak about this in a vintage bento Jash.

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One of the ways that our profits because we will, that's our background that will be requiring, but this story is interesting is basically the the following.

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The Prophet Muhammad, Salah Salem, obviously, he raised the edible habitat. And we've already spoke spoken at length about what leads to some considerable length about the life of the problem as some of Hadiya we spoke, if you remember, brother, we spoke last week about how many children the profiles are solo have, and you made a good point. And I done a bit of research about it. And I realized that difference of opinion, which is like you said, is buyer

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who other attire on the other camera, the other name by her and type I think it was,

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are they names for Abdullah? Are they two different people? How many children that problem houses I have? And we said that there's at least six? Yeah, that is six. Now, some scholars do say that he had a

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and that Tar Heel and type were two different children. But I think the majority opinion is actually that these are two different names for Abdullah. So that was something I just wanted to bring up. But those six, we don't know for a fact there isn't an authentic narration that tells us about six children's a lot. Which by the way, it tells us that it's unlikely that the process of a marriage Khadija 14, because imagine having six children with a 40 year old, I can sort of say it's unlikely that up until for 13 years, or whatever it is that she's continually having children for that long. Now there isn't an authentic narration to tell us exactly how old she was. But this gives credence

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to the other view, which is that she was like 28, and he was 25. She was still older than him, but not as older, as for example, many people think in, in our circles. I mean, there is another example of a wife if anyone were to ask you now who's who was the other example of a wife which is older than Marsala

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Saddam Islam as the best example and she had children of her own and she actually because the process is not married, after Khadija passed away. When he went to the medina period, it was skipping here a little bit, but he married so the first before he married Aisha like so there was the first person he married it was it was an older woman she had

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children and stuff like that and and we're going to cover that in sha Allah as it comes. But this story of data analysis important, which is the following what happened is,

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he had a very the Prophet Muhammad Hassan had a very, very strong relationship with data and Hadith. He was like,

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you know, he's like his own son effectively, like he was an adopted son at that time, adoption wasn't made haram. Obviously afterwards, we know that adoption has been made haram in the Quran, a documentary about in Wakasa twined Allah, that caused them to their fathers is better. It's more just with Allah, meaning that you adoption, this is sort of like a zap. I think in the six of us. It's called them to the Father adoption, like, is not acceptable in the technical sense. It doesn't mean you can't bring people in and raise them or sponsor them or anything, it just means you shouldn't call them as your sons. They should be called. It shouldn't be. They didn't. Even Mohammed

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it should be seated inheritor, even so that when this verse came down, some of the scholars said that we didn't even know his name is father's name was hard to say because everyone on the students

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did you say that?

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See, he said, he said, I realized that he's not son of Muhammad. Yes. So this was the name they didn't know. But the point is, what happened is the uncle and the father of databind Hadith according to the story, which as I mentioned, mentioned in many of the books, they came to say they've been Hadith and they wanted him back they realized that Muhammad Sallallahu sallam was the one who had him he would do it pointed in that direction. They wanted him back. So what the prophets of salaam did at that time was he told him he was older now they said look, it's absolutely fine you can go if you want to. Well, you choose whether you want to stay with me or they want to go with

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your father and your uncle. And they didn't have it they made the decision to stay with his with Prophet Muhammad Salah Hausa and not to go with his which shows you the deep connection that Zaytoven had to had with the Prophet Muhammad Salah Salah and showed you what kind of man the problem Hamza salaam was a welcoming man is its members. We're talking about a freed slave who the process lamb raised, and it shows you what kind of family this was with Khadija and the children of the Prophet Muhammad. So as you know, it shows you that he was a compassionate man, a kind man, a man that helped raise another individual. This is absolutely the case. And that is the only name of

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his hobby that's mentioned the Quran. By the way this there are others hobbies that I mentioned by implication, but oh, they alluded to, like, if any, if name is Omar, foolhardy, like for example, rocket has mentioned, like in that sense, it alluded to as the second of two sort of Toba. But Zaid is the only person that's mentioned by name. So this is a very important story, I think, which I think is worth talking about. Before we talk we talk about what we're going to watch right? And he was gifted servant from Khadija to Prophet Muhammad peace which shows you the beautiful Yeah, so shows you the love that they had together and but what they were all interested in, which is, you

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know, helping the community being compassionate to community and the love that people have towards Muhammad, Salah salah, and actually, he was kidnapped by his mother's relative. And he was sold out in this city. And Bibi Hadiya sent his servant to buy another one to serve and then see this vessel all these tourists now I know you might be right and I have to go and do my research. The reason why I'm not mentioning them is because of the authenticity issue right so I get I get

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I think it's me

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that their father came to Makkah and they found him here, the relatives and informed the Father. Yeah, that one came back and then Prophet asked him to choose that one. And that the authenticity of the Hadith, I don't think it reaches the grade of say, there might be Hasson but haven't looked in great detail about the authenticity of the Hadith as mentioned, as measured by imageless, Kalani and big scholars. That's why That's why I mentioned which is awful. Okay, let's get started. So the first thing is what makes a profit. Okay, so this is the first question, what makes a profit profit so the word Nebby.

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There's two opinions as to where this word comes from. One of them is from never as you know, is one surah because Surah never okay. Now that means news or information given. And the other one is Neverwhere or which means artifact which means a highest station because the prophets acquire a higher station than the rest of people. The most famous opinion is never because of two reasons that Allah gives the information to the prophet and the prophet saw Selim then gives the information to the people so he gets a bomb he gets the news the neighbor and then he disseminates that information

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Yeah, for example, right so but like

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the another one, which is a lot of people mentioned is that in the hope, no better be accurate all Silla a bit more data. This is I don't think this is how these boys could be.

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I didn't see that this is a Hadith was something where he was made a profit with extra misanthropic allottee Haluk. And he was made a a Rasool with, with death suitable data. Now the truth of the matter is this is that there was a difference between a prophet and the messenger. Now there's so many opinions on this. And I think you will actually do scope if we go into because we can speak for half an hour but the differences between what a prophet is and what a messenger is. Okay. So I'm just going to quickly summarize, quickly summarize, some people some scholars say that there is no difference between the messenger and the prophet, which is problematic the view because if the

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stomata follow up with the follower customer, the scholars say in Arabic language, when two things are put together, like nebulous all if they are together in the in the same sentence with a conjunction in the middle, which happens in the Quran quite often, then they must mean something different. So this is a disregarded view by most scholars. The second view is that actually the difference between the prophet and the messenger is that the Prophet

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was sent to a people

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that he's not been given a new Sharia. Whereas the messenger has been given a new Sharia. But this is problematic as well, because there are some prophets that we know, have not been given new Shediac like, for example, who that are also

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that some profits that we know have not been given you Shediac.

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But are about Bata profits are not messengers?

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Yeah, I don't know if that's, that's I haven't looked into jacobellis. I'll have to look at that. But yeah, it's a view out there, without making too much subject. Ibn Taymiyyah says the following, irritate me as view is, the difference between the prophet and messenger is that the Prophet was sent to people that already believe in Him, whereas the messenger is sent to people that don't believe in Him, which is an interesting view, as well. And there are views about it about what's the difference between a profit and a messenger?

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Which one? So what he said is even told me a bit believes the following. He says that, look, a messenger was sent sorry, a profit was sent to people that believed in him already,

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like bandits or elaw. Like, you know, there's many prophets of bene aside. So the bandits largely believed in the Prophet, the Nebby. And so he was sent to reinforce that, whereas a Rasool is a higher station because he was sent to people that don't believe in their new

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Which shows you I mean, if that's if this view is correct, if this view is correct, it shows you the advantage or the status increase in being someone active in the community rather than someone go into your own your own community. And there's a hadith that kind of Yanni goes to that. That meeting which has been harlot and that's what Saba Saba Allah at home. Hi, Ron Minella, de la New Holland. So alumnus, which is the one who mixes with the people, and that he's patient upon their affliction is better than the one who doesn't do that. Anyway, so these are some of the views relating to that.

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Now, what cause you might be aware of this already, that I've just mentioned. And of course, you can go on, there's more to see there's more detail on this issue. So if you want to go into what's Malphur Cobain and nebulous holography, what is the difference between the profit universe and you will find lots of stuff on that. But what you won't find as much stuff on because you have to go to more specialist books is the following.

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What is sufficient evidence of proving a profit? So this is where there's a difference of opinion. And I'm going to challenge you guys a little bit here. Okay. I'll first tell you the difference of opinion. And I'll tell you where the issues are.

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That there's a difference of opinion among this creedal schools of thought about this issue. So the my Tesla is, the Russians are so called rationalists. Okay, they say that the thing, the most important thing, for a prophet to be proven as a prophet is a margin. So a margin of error is a miracle. Now, what is a miracle? There is a common definition that almost all the books of Kalam mentioned, and even even Taymiyah agrees on which I'll tell you about, which is that it's hardly collider is something which

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which defies the laws of nature. Usually Hila usually law that ye D would die in the bore, that Allah He allows to happen at the hands of someone who's claiming to be a Prophet. Allah wants you to have it

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in a way, which challenges humanity. So there's three major components here. I'll give him some of the most people accept this, this kind of definition.

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if that's the case, now the mortality say this can't happen. So they would defy something called Kurama. Like, most Allison algebra, I believe in something called Kurama, which is like the earlier the earlier Bucha head or a su, not a Sufi

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saint, a saint could be Sufi, but I'm saying a saint or something that they would, the day that something could happen to them miraculous.

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This is most people accept this, even Tim accepts this, by the way, this can happen to other people, not profits.

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But there's an issue with this definition, which I want to come to like the fact that you're saying that it can't happen to accept anyone except for the profits is an issue with this. And there's also an issue with saying that will

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is also an issue saying that this is the decisive evidence of what makes a profit and what doesn't and I'll tell you what the issues are. Now when the Ashari school there's a range of different opinions which it would be unfair to meet for me to summarize them in a few sentence because of has Allah has different opinion to join Ian McClenney and this and that, so I'm not going to summarize that what I will say is even Taymiyah disagrees with the mitosis

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because he asked a question if you're saying that I'm watching

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or a

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if you're saying that the margin is that is the main evidence for what proves a profit, but what about magician

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Okay, so a magician if David Blaine comes and says look

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Take a look at the See, I'm going to split it into. Okay, now, I'm claiming to be a prophet except me as a prophet.

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Really, I'm on strict grounds, the martyrs list would have little argument against such a singular. What they would say is that this can't happen. It's logically impossible. That's what they would say. It's more hierarchical. That's what they're forced to say that Allah won't allow that thing to happen.

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But then we get into a bigger discussion now, because you said, What about the gin? Because we have decisive evidence from the Sunnah that the gel is going to come in is going to split this one is going to do that one's going to rain, it's going to rain because of him. And by the way, is this. He's going to claim prophethood before we play claims to be God. So you got all the conditions that most of them are typically mean, say are applicable to a prophet being applied in the jail.

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How would you respond to that guy?

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That's like, impossible. I need this to happen. It seems that that's making a textual argument. But if we're saying let's take it ugly, if we're accepting if we're saying that we've accepted a process, and it was illegitimate profit, yeah. He said, There's no profit after me. Nobody will say, well, they will. They'll make that we'll have these things. So this this the cloud in the in the definition, they wouldn't even look at the hands of the Prophet. They say this is impossible to have enough of the gel. We have clear text that is happening with him. Yeah, I get that. But there isn't. There's already something previously which says that, like that, definitely.

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There's more than that. So you can say you can say what you just said, yeah. You can say okay, well, we're gonna be about the the prophets of salaam said there's no prophet after me. And you can also say that the prophets of salaam said that the believers will see on the Jughead Cafaro, there is this believer, and that there'll be evidences on the opposite direction. You know, I mean, you can make this argument, but then this would go into a different school of thought, namely, even Taymiyah claims, which is the following. He says, that's not the case that the decisive evidence, and he mentioned this, and metabolisable wet, and, and also Oculus for honey, which, by the way, the

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Sapiens Institute is translating the only organization to first translate in English language. And I'm gonna, by the way, this show I had to find a Mexican Excellent point, he says that look, actually prophethood is a cumulative case. And the modules that is part of the package, it's not the decisive part, it's not the only thing on the package. So in other words, the more the evidence, or the The miracle is only a part of the case of prophethood, it's not the only thing.

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And so you can even affirm even for the sake of alchemy, you can affirm a miracle to something other than someone other than a prophet. But it wouldn't negate that wouldn't be enough for profit. So for example, let's say David Blaine comes in. And he says, Follow me. And he's split the sea and walks on the water and all that kind of stuff. Why is he calling to as he call into a towhead? What is his track record? So even Tamia is saying this, in return me saying that

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the all the things that you would use, he effectively says this, all the things that you would use to assess the truth and the falsehood of anybody else in your life, you can use it with the formalities, and you will have favorable results. So he says on probability, when you look at the seer of the Prophet, you look at what he's calling to Tawheed, you look at the lucky yet, the morals of what the person is calling to, and you look at all these things in combination, and the miracles, all of that is the case for Islam. Unless someone brings all of that together, then they won't be bringing what the prophets or something. Yeah, would you would you say all of them combined is also

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a miracle. So the thing is less so remember, the miracle here has a very strict hematological definition, according to the kalam scholars, which is that it's a thing which as we mentioned, harder kalila there's something which is what negates the laws of nature is really how laws what Allah Allah de moda in the boy had, that Allah He makes happen on the hands of someone who is more dependable. I like

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to add to that someone who claims to be a prophet, and he challenges the world with it. From that perspective, we have to be clear what is and what isn't a miracle. Like for example, it's a lesson on marriage.

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Okay, now, let's start with marriage on this strict definition wouldn't qualify as miracle.

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Why? Because I didn't see that. Like, I didn't see the first Muslim going from Masjidul haram elementary lacasa. And going up to the sky. I didn't see that. So it doesn't act as an evidence for me. There's not that the academic that deal with I can't see it. How could it challenge everybody else? There's no aspect of falsification or challenge.

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Obviously, you could argue what happened afterwards with the personal salon, for example, when he was asked to see he said, like, I saw this and I saw that that could be claimed to be an evidence on a or miracle. The point is that the Quran doesn't use this term.

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Marchesa the Quran uses the term A,

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it has it makes his point as well the area means delille effectively, that's what it means, which means

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evidence, a sign on evidence. That's what the Quran uses a more neutral term, actually, because Marginson is the loaded language, miracles loaded language do we mean by, so we have to break it down. This is what we're not negating the miracle. But we're just saying the word miracle has loaded. If you're speaking to an atheist, you say, Well, I believe in miracles. And that's why I'm Muslim.

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That's a weaker case, to make them to say, well, we have evidence, a cumulative case, a probabilistic reasoning, which indicates wider Paramahansa. Salaam is a prophet because by saying miracle, you need to first define what you mean by a miracle.

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And then you need to advance in kind. And by the way, like, for example, I was just talking some board about this fight. Well, interestingly, yeah. If you say something which it goes against the laws of nature,

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this effectively is problematic. Why? Because there's no law. There's no scientific law or law of physics.

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That stops for you. And you're here. Just I saw I saw him the physics expert. You could tell me if I'm wrong.

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You were here when you were talking about it? Right? Yeah, yeah. So but there's no law of physics, which effectively

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goes against the idea of a miracle. blackfog. How do we? And please correct me if I'm wrong? Yeah. How do you collect the laws of physics, we look at past patterns of nature, how certain how nature has acted in a certain way. And then we say this is a law. So there's instantiations of a particular physical process that happen over a space of time. And we collect this historical data, and we call it a law. That's effectively that's how we know what a law is. A law is not it doesn't have a substratum it doesn't stand in. In space where you can put under a microscope, a law is effectively just patterns of nature. Now, what I'm saying is, there's no law that says a miracle the like, for

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example, the splitting of the sea, or the splitting of the moon, or wherever it may be, that it can't happen. It's just that we're saying we have no such law to show that it can happen. So it's more of a positive argument than a negative one. So if you really, if you want to be more specific about the multicolored moon,

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when they say miracle is harder colada, something which didn't happen before.

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There's an issue here with What do you mean by AD?

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Can there be something else by them is a patent effectively, a natural law, but can there be something new, which, which creates a new ad, which creates a new natural law, and that wouldn't even contradict the scientific method.

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So what I'm trying to propose is that you use the terms cumulative case and probabilistic reasoning and evidence is more neutral. And you can make an argument in a stronger way than to use the word miracle, which is more loaded, and especially when you go speak about because the word miracle effectively depends on the, on the laws of nature, physics, or otherwise, it depends on it that for you to know what a miracle is. And this is, by the way, David Hume as well. David Hume accepts this point, for you to know what a miracle is, you need to know what sciences you know how to eat, and how science operates.

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So you can say that this goes against science, well, this goes against the established laws or this is something

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which not goes against it, if this is something which is not explained through it.

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And then you have a biogenesis, which we discussed as well. I mentioned this with the Edward tabash. One of my

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interlocutors, and if you remember, and if you remember, yeah, so this might have gone on the read of it, he said to miracles, miracles, and he was attacking is slamming the religion through the idea of miracles. I said, How did we How did chemistry with biology, and he said agenesis, osteogenesis the idea that chemistry became biology, right? You have dead stuff, and it became living stuff effectively. How did that happen? So if you if you research Abiel Genesis is a process which has not been confirmed or seen, which is effectively and they have all these theories, sometimes like Alien came in and just on that one, and that's how it honestly, because

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panspermia, basically, if it was Alien theory, you had this one and the soup and this and that.

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And this was, I don't know what they call it the exact source, whatever you want to call. Oh, sorry, sorry, I apologize.

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But you know, I mean, they have all these steps. So all I'm saying is, how did that happen? Whatever way you propose is not in line with what we've seen in terms of naturalistic phenomena, in many ways of your Genesis is a miracle. It fulfills like angiogenesis fulfills the criteria definition of what a miracle is. And it had to have happened because without aborigines you don't have life.

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So when we say Adam was great from dust, and they say this is I don't believe in miracles I say look, we believe in Genesis you so first of all, huffy Monroe he was the first female Rohit, I blew into him from my

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my spirit and Allah says that that's how it happened with Adam, for example. I don't believe in this stuff. Why? Because it's a miracle. But you didn't have your Genesis. So long as I speak in scientific words, you're okay with it.

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Are you okay with it? This is still your for

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feels the same criterion of what a miracle is. So the point is, is that I think that if you use a cumulative case argument is stronger when our biblical criteria Yeah.

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The Bible even tells you something about this.

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It says that you may say to yourself, how can we know when a message

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sorry when a message has not been spoken by the Lord, if what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place will come true,

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that the message of the Lord has not spoken, the prophet has spoken presumptuously, so so do not be alarmed. The Bible seems to indicate that one of the ways to see for profit as a true prophet is through predictions and prophecies of the future, which is a very powerful point because as you know, we have arguments of prophecies of the Prophet Muhammad Allah Salam, which if you're speaking to a Christian is very important as well.

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Now, what even Taymiyah says,

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is very interesting. He says that someone who claims Prophet and this will go into more of a different kinds of discussion. And this is not just him. Exactly. Boris has the same thing. This phrase is used by a lot of people, which is the following phrase he says that no one claims to be a prophet, except for us Takasaki or x double Kathy been the most truthful person or the most lying person?

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This is what he says. Yeah, yeah.

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Yes, for Allah Muhammad and these ones, and that one, you can see from their lives, like you can discern the truth from the false very easily, just on the point of prophethood, like for example, we spoke about like some of the prophecies of Willem achmad, the so called Indian prophet, and, and you know, he died, bang, bang on the toilet. I don't know if he died or not.

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Prophet, the lady school.

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The leader she claimed to serve as

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well, just on the point of us making a point of what was his name of Allah Muhammad? And he said, I'm going to marry Muhammadi Begum, a particular woman Yeah. And in every murder,

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if I don't marry her, I'm not a prophet. And he didn't marry her. Oh, it's finished. It says you've just disproven Thank you for saying this. He loves us so much because he emotions got the best.

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Because, you know, he thought that if you he'd be probably put into manifestation if I say oh

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yeah, if I say it's the universe.

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So this is a book called The biblical criteria, and this will be complete, you know, a failure. And it's true. Anyway, the point is, is that

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look at this verse on when Avila when women are like, has he been we'll call it all here in a while he

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imagine, I'm going to move on to a point here, but the the a of the Quran is as follows. Yeah. And who is more unjust than the one who invents a lie, but Allah and says, it has been inspired to me, while nothing has been inspired to him. So what the Quran is saying is this. Who's worse? There's nobody worse, there's who's worse than the one who says, Who lies about Allah. There's no one worse than someone who lies about Allah, and says, it has been inspired to me.

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That revelation has been inspired to me, and no revelation has been inspired to him. There's no one worse than that. So it's the product of solemn. And I'll tell you why this is psychologically

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it shows you the truthfulness of the Prophet Muhammad salah, right? Because if you think about it, there is something called cognitive dissonance. Now, cognitive dissonance is a well known psychological thing, which this guy called Festinger, I think this was one of the first studies that has ever been done on it in 1956. There's a few studies that were done on it. And he'd done studies on people, funnily enough, who believed in prophecies that were going to happen, like you know, these cults in America, and that they didn't happen. So he wanted to see what kind of behavior that they exhibited. What is cognitive dissonance, cognitive dissonance is when you have Country A either

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contradictory beliefs, or be either contradictory belief and action. That's really what cognitive dissonance is. So I have two contradictory beliefs that I believe in. So for example, let's say someone's a Christian, and he's a flat earth issed. And let's say he's sorry, young age creationist. Yeah, he believes the universe is 6000. The young age creationist nutrition is 6000 years he believes the universe 6000 years.

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But he's a physicist, so no, so So when he goes into the physics, physics room, he has to say the universe is 14 billion years. But when he goes into the church, he has to say the universe is 6000 years old. Now, these are two contradictory beliefs. According to cognitive dissonance theory, this person will be showing a lot of discomfort in his life, he will be trying to resolve that contradiction, because this is causing you a lot of pain. Having two contradictory beliefs causes pain, psychological pain, trauma, problems, agitation,

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and especially it could even cause you guilt.

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And they have like these studies about meat eating, for some reason, but also smoking someone who believes that smoking is bad, but does it

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Anyway, for example, so when you believe in something and do the opposite, it causes this. And by the way, interestingly,

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one kind of cognitive dissonance if you think about from a spiritual perspective is sin. You know, as Muslims when we sin, we feel guilty. Because It's haram. Like, for example, you looks at a woman nasia Everyone needs a man, you look at automation looks at you, if you don't have that, then. But if you've done something very bad, they feel very guilty and shame, because because your belief is that this is haram or wrong or immoral, but your actions that you're doing this thing, so it causes discomfort. So one of the problems of sin is not just that it causes you a spiritual blemish, by causing psychological trauma and pain. The most simplest you are, the more psychologically healthy

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you are someone wants. Yeah. Do you want to have cognitive, cognitive dissidence, then from that definition as a sinner? Yeah. Oh, so everyone's got is like a spectrum? Spectrum. But what I'm saying is that, imagine the Quran is saying that this one was trying to propose to you, the Quran is saying, Oh, man Avila amendment. If not Allah, Allah, he can't even we'll call it Oh, Haley, who is worse? This is not the behavior of someone who had who was lying. Because it would mean that the kind of cognitive dissonance we're talking about is the the highest level of cognitive dissonance. Because if it says no Quran, who is worse than the one who's lying about Allah and says, I've been,

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it's been revealed to me and nothing has been revealed. If the person is doing it themselves, then the imagine the kind of shame and guilt and embarrassment and humiliation they must feel.

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So we are saying, Does the prophets action so Allah Salam in his Sierra, this is a question that when we're going forward, you have to ask yourself, does it indicate of a person? Does it show a person who's shamed and who's humiliated? And he's trying a D legitimizing the idea of

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lying spiritually and stuff? No, it doesn't show this at all. His life doesn't show that.

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Do you see what I mean? It doesn't, he doesn't exhibit the characteristics of someone who has a high level cognitive dissonance.

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Any questions on that point?

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Okay, so these are the kinds of things that people have when they have mood swings.

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They have mood swings, they have shame, they have embarrassment, they have avoidance, they don't want to talk about an issue. Because if you like, for example, if someone you believe that the earth is six universe, 6000 years, and now you're in a physical classroom, the talk of 14 billion year old universes will make you uncomfortable, at the very least, you cannot be not uncomfortable with it. How could you be not uncomfortable this?

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So what I'm saying is it would require kind of psychotic nature.

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Now, now we're moving into if it's that deep

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psychopathy, psychopathy, you'd have to have a level of psychopathy. Yes. You know, and also with those types of people, they require so much willpower to keep that level of cognitive life, let's say yes, that they become, they become a person who makes wrong decisions in the most simplest things. Yes. And we don't see that in the prophets or seller. Exactly, exactly. That's a good point. Yeah.

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How does it work with biologists and evolution and those who study it because I think in the in the, in the academic journal, they call it a theory, but they act as if it's like, as real as as existence sometimes, like evolution. And we come from apes and stuff like, like, yeah, theory. And obviously, there's debate about it being fair, and it could be countered and stuff like this. But I think in that area, they see it as as quite like true and evidence that even affects most of the people. Right, yeah. As you're aware, but that's obviously the discussion of evolution with the scope, what we're talking about today, but yeah, it's that's a good example of something where

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people have cognitive dissonance as well. Alright, so

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there's another thing someone will say. So we talked about cognitive dissonance, we don't see the the manifestation of the symptoms of someone as cognitive dissonance at the highest level, which would be required with the evidence that we've just seen and presented. But someone will argue, Well, what about hallucination? Because we're going to talk about like, the process, I'm going to the cave and all that kind of stuff, but how do we know that this is not a hallucination?

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Now, these are the kinds of disorders that if someone has usually has hallucinations, Okay, number one, schizophrenia.

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Number two bipolar disorder. psychosis, by the way, is a psychological term for someone who has lost touch with reality. If you look at the DCM DSM register, that's how they that is how they define psychosis, someone who's lost touch with reality. Okay. So psychosis, by that you can have schizophrenia and as part of schizophrenia, you have psychosis. Psychosis doesn't usually come by itself.

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usually comes as a package of another kind of

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medical disorder. So for example, if you have bipolar disorder, and then you have a manic episode or a mixed episode, or whatever it may be even a depressive episode but you just manic, that that person would be psychotic for the time that they have that episode, for example.

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The same thing can be said about borderline personality disorder, although it's much less than say, for example, the two aforementioned examples, like bipolar disorder, for the most part person would have more than that.

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Post traumatic stress disorder, PTSD, which is once again as much it's not as commonly associated with it. And there's a book that was written by what's his name, van, hold van, something. The body keeps score. I read that book, because this guy was one of the main people, Van something I forget. But he's the one who,

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who have clinics for PTSD and stuff like that. And he's talking about what is it? And by the way, there's PTSD. And there's PTG, which is the opposite of PTSD, which is also mentioned in some of the psychological

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psychological review papers. PT. G stands for post traumatic growth. Now honestly, it's I've seen this written in, in peer reviewed journals and stuff is the opposite. So if something bad happens in your life, yeah, you can you can have PTSD, okay, which has its own symptoms. And you have like, for example, traumatic episodes, you have nightmares you, you might have repeating repeated thoughts and whatever, incessant thoughts, tons of fixation and obsessions. But you also have PTG when someone goes through some difficult thing and lead life, and then they see the optimism and they become Ultra optimistic. They grow effectively because of it. Now, once again, does the Prophet Muhammad

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Hassan exhibit the behavior of someone has PTSD? Absolutely not. If anything, he has PTG. I mean, all these things, all of his children died, his wife died, his uncle died, you don't see, in fact,

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you see in hadith is talking about optimism. He's not talking about pessimism, which by the way, it doesn't happen. Someone's got bipolar either, especially not in depressive episodes, depressive episodes, they're bleak. Hopelessness. In fact, suicide ideation becomes one of the main symptoms, schizophrenia, suicide ideation, look at the symptoms of these disorders, suicide, they become so and we'll talk about suicide and second, because there's one of the shoppers, but you become so sad, that for the longest period of time, you just become pessimistic, pessimistic, pessimistic, that's your life.

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But if you know these conditions, like for example, bipolar disorder, or schizophrenia, or Borderline Personality Disorder, or PTSD, maybe people listening to this know people who have this, these conditions, very serious conditions. And if you know people, you know that their behavior is volatile, effectively. That's one thing that characterizes all of their behavior is volatile.

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Now, someone will say, well, it could be a lesser thing could be a sleeping disorder or brain lesion, which doesn't doesn't add up because there's no evidence of the presence of any of that.

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Or drug use. Of course, this time, you know, the process level. Clearly, there's nothing about him drinking or taking alcohol or anything like that, right.

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But let's entertain the issue for a second. Because let's say someone takes a hallucinogen or a psychoactive drug.

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Now, when you take a hallucinogenic rasa, you do hallucinate. No problem. Second magic mushroom. I'm not sure if anyone has tried it. Hopefully not. But hallucinations are not organized. Let me explain what I mean by that. Like so. For example, if I today, take a hallucinogen.

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Take a mushroom. I bring a mushroom and eat magic. Magic mushroom. Yeah. Now, if I then report my hallucination, yeah, I report what happened. And then I wait two days, and I take another mushroom. And then I put my hallucination. I put it in a diary. And then I wait two days, and I take another mushroom. And I do that over a span of 20 years. Okay, wherever the hallucinations that have reporting here, the likelihood of them having a storyline attached to it and being coherent is zero actually doesn't happen.

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Ask any other many people that are watching this are drug users when you take the hallucinogen today,

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Not honestly Oh go on life. They've taken a drug it is you can't say well, how can you produce the Quran? Which is a structurally knitted together document? Or let's say speech isn't alone. How can you produce the Quran with multiple episodes of hallucination? Quran telling you what to do in your life telling you about the future telling you about this one and that one has to do add how to have a wife how to divorce your wife how to do this one, that one, you're telling me that your best explanation of how this was produced is through hallucination, delusion.

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Now, hallucination delusion, there is a difference between the two as we mentioned last time, the psychology of delusion there's a diff there's a fine line between what is referred to as delusion and what is referred to as overvalued ideas

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and overvalued I

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Da Vinci is an ideological position.

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It's an attempt to try and make sense of the world. Now, when you're trying to make sense of the world, you can believe in things as part of the unseen.

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Or when Richard Dawkins wrote the book, The God Delusion.

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He's saying that God is a mental disorder, like if you believe in God, effective if you think about what he's saying, If you believe in God, as a proposition, then you have a mental disorder. That's really what you're getting at, isn't it? Okay, well, if that's the case, if you believe that the best explanation for the existence of the universe isn't necessarily being of an intelligence or knowledge, whatever you want to say, if that's a mental disorder,

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then it means to say that the majority of humankind cross culturally have always had mental mental disorders shouldn't be called disorders, they should be called ordered, mental ordered, because that's been the muscle it's not been different. It's been that has been the default. It's not an exception.

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So and it's not actually caused psychological trouble for the people. It's actually helped organize their lives and help them out. So what about it is illusionary or delusional those who believe countries?

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Has to be here? Because if if the population from the DOT has believed in God, and then those who oppose it are mentally disturbed? Yes.

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Absolutely. But what I was gonna say is this. Now this is different to the transgender movement. Because, look, we as Muslim people believe in heaven and *, right? Yes, we believe in a sort of Mirage, you believe in these things which we haven't seen.

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So these, you could say they're overvalued ideas for the sake of no problem.

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Somebody who has X Y chromosomes, arguing that is x x, effectively, where there's evidence to the contrary, you see, this is the point. There's no evidence to the contrary of heaven, * exists. There's zero evidence to the contrary, you can't falsify but there is evidence to the contrary, the x x is x, y and x, y is x. As you see, there is evidence so when I present you, then you have cognitive dissonance, actually, but you have delusion that magic mushrooms Yes, I'll call it a delusion rather than hallucination. Remember, we said there's a fine line. When we say the prophecies are what best explains the Quran what best explains his behavior? What best explains,

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then the reason why I'm giving you this as a framework before we start talking about this, is because people are gonna throw words they're gonna say, Okay, well, delusion, hallucination, mental disorder, epilepsy, whatever. So fine. You think you're a psychologist?

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You think that you're Freud and Carl Jung, you think you're you know, all these things? Right? No problem. What do you how do you define? What are the symptoms of X Y, Zed? And let's see if it applies reprimands. It doesn't, does not apply. If anyone has been in I have been in like,

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mental hospitals, but I've seen I've visited like, I've been there sat down with somebody who has something like schizophrenia, or bipolar disorder, or any of even even borderline, per se, it's not as much someone has these things they need heavy for the most part, medication just to stabilize lithium and disco typing, and this one that in their veins, they need it. And there's the volatility of moods is on different level, you can't, you cannot use this as an explanation. As a man who lead lead wars.

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Imagine if the person has ever had any of these disorders? How can you lead the war, you freak out? It will trigger your episodes

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on the battlefield?

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You know,

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it makes episode how

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it Sorry, sorry to say this. This doesn't make sense. So could we say? Could we say that one who claims that the Prophet SAW Selim was hallucinating or was actually delusional, actually accepts that miracles do exist? Because he wouldn't be able to provide one single example of someone who is hallucinating or in fact deluded, that has achieved exactly the same things as the Prophet SAW. So as I say, I would put it in different language, I'll just say you use the some evidence. Rather than like miracles, I would just say, look, let's take a look at the evidence. If you're saying who's hallucination has its own technical terminology in psychology. Delusion has its own technical

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terminology. It usually is connected with these mental disorders. Which one of them are you saying, for the sake of argument, you take it from them? A schizophrenic, schizophrenic. But have you seen what's good? Have you seen what schizophrenic people how they live their lives? They see human beings they don't. They? They are.

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Hmm. Doesn't that defy life? A reality though it defies reality. And yet because it causes Yes. So in fact, there must be a miracle then if this person who is hallucinating and deluded and so on and so forth, is achieving all this. It's not like the contrary of what they say is, it's a miracle. So you have to accept the miracle then

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With the word miracle we set has very specific technical definition, you have to tell them. Numbers are loaded terms. Remember, we said that a miracle is something which defies the laws of nature and we use the word miracle, like, the laws of nature is what I'm saying. Look, I mean, they would say it's improbable but logically possible. That's the distinction. Okay. But then, as we started our example, as we started off by saying there isn't an example but we could say that

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something which is improbable, that improbable is not inference to the best explanation. It's not the abductive Lee chosen way of making an argument so if you have you heard of mass resignations where there's a group of people

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literally like there's a group of them and they they build trust without

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nation like that. Is that 1015 20 of them?

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Yeah, I mean, the opposites I don't know You know, those churches in America you see all those people freaking out at the same time? They can orchestrate having hallucinations Yes, He that is performative

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that's what I think

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that's all this is they're all they know they know how to do it. They know what they're doing.

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I believe that they just make themselves believe collective

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possible so now that we have that background

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we go to

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the pictures of Awad Hara. Now this if you look at the two pictures that I've put on them,

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or Hara.

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Has anyone has anyone been there? Have you been there? First of all, nice picture, send it to the video, please do my review not putting the video giving work that he needs to be done. But show it to me. No problem. I was gonna say is that how did you find that going up there, please? It was, you know, if you think about it contextually, not just going up physically for me. Yeah, it's quite an enduring, wasn't it? Yeah. I find it extremely difficult. Yeah. When I went up that place, I found that like, people find it so much easier. is juggling, nor they call a job. No, no. So I don't know. I don't think it was called at the time. It wasn't quite at a time. Right. There was no it means

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that the Mountain of Light. Yeah. And what is inside of inside of that? I was going up it and it took me about two hours to go. Two hours. Yeah, hour and a half, two hours.

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From from the from the street. How often the street came up the taxi. I was just annoyed. I took me about an hour half hour, easy, easy. And it was it was taxing on my body. I can imagine, especially if coming from like sickness because I'm carrying more weight or because the latter guys found it easy. Yeah. And I was running about seven years ago.

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1819 the lie guys found it much easier than I was one of the worst. I was carrying 120 kilograms up the mountain.

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I don't know if that is that.

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Of course anything like this, I find that hard. You're away from the ground, like your high Providence on that shoot and light. But as I was growing up, though, I was going up the mountain. As I was going up the mountain, I honestly thought that Subhanallah the process Allah must have been very fit, man. Of course, I think my shoes and there was no, like, I'm sure there wasn't like a systematic path, like as we had now. So you gotta take these into account as well coming from his house as well. Walking that distance and doing it quite, I don't know how often it was. But from that 1400 years ago, then, as you said, you had to be very fit, of course, you had to be very, very

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hard to be fit.

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Even just a slice of the mountain, that mountain shows you the cardiovascular ability of the Prophet. And he was doing that regularly. That's number one. Number two is sorry, guys just might as well. So because it's

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just the point is is that when he when you went in, I showed you some of the pictures. It's a very small place which is only like suitable for one or two people wouldn't there. Yeah. It's not really like a cave. It's not a huge cave. It's very small.

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Is it even a cave? I don't know.

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Of course. Did you find it easy to get up there? Was it hard? Since I'm a mountain guy wasn't that difficult, but

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I saw the Kazakhstan is running up. Yeah. I mean, a mountain guy. So the best thing, but they can't see what you look like.

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But the idea is wasn't easy to go up there. Yeah, especially that's a very small place. How can you spend so much time and so much time in a place? That's a very small place? People think it's a big like, you know, it's a cave, but it's no, it's a very small, tiny space. You know, spending time alone. I recently went to Canada, and I went to a place called Saskatoon,

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Saskatchewan, Saskatchewan. And the guy said, Look, I'm gonna take you outside to the periphery of the place here. There's you're not going to hear anything. As it's taken me. He went in the car and took a jacket. I went outside and I spent about three 510 minutes on the third or fifth minute I started asking all the ultimate questions. What am I doing here like what

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This place is unbelievable, this idea of Hollywood or being alone of Allah subhanaw taala. Like cutting yourself off from, we talked about the law, or the idea of mixing with the people, but idea of being alone of Allah subhanaw taala as well, Osler, or whatever you want to call it, like being secluded is also extremely powerful.

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And this is where the prophet Muhammad SAW said, I imagine Aki Mecca was like a cosmopolitan city like for him to detach from that. And just to think about Allah. And that cave, showed they had a very meditative temperament. But it also showed that he was trying to cut himself off. And this brings Torkel every power every pure, purifies the mind. Maybe that's the zone you have to be in to in order to maybe I don't know, to get to another level of spirituality, you have to be in a zone where it's just nothing to be honest, he has a lot of Sophie's, they do this. Nowadays. They have this as part of their package. Lucky though, they'll take you to a place, they'll clock the door,

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and stuff like that. Honestly, they have they do this

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room, and it's dark, and they've been there for like hours and then they'll start saying, I can't remember. I went to Morocco. Like some 10 years ago, and I went to the village in place. And as we slept, I slept at night in the village. I opened my eyes and I realized it was all pitch black. So I thought I was blind. So I started screaming

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as pyramid after being alone, it's a little bit frightening. It's a little bit frightening and honestly

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not because it wasn't a place where there was no I could even see the stars.

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I started screaming and some people hurt me and then I just looked at what I heard and saw some light of walk I'm not blind

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while he was going to that cave, he heard some voices say a salam ala Rasulillah Yes.

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See, the thing is I love the fact that

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there is a lot of yes is it

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and later on the profits are masked Gibreel that who who was that the sound from he said students well I'll tell you what, let's let's read let's read the Hadith in Bukhari, which is I want Shekar to read because it got very smooth voice and good readings.

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In Muslim so this is let's read the one that we all know is Saheeh the beginning this is in body. This is a powerful Hadith and it's one of the most important how these elaborate so let's read

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pardon Yes. Narrated by shall

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be Aisha it's a no no. Asian thing role.

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are you ready? So I think this is a very beautiful and powerful Hadith we need to kind of reflect over it and sometimes the best thing to do is just read daddy's and listen because he's one of the first homies you find hurry.

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Is it the first one

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The first one is near he's off oh my

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gosh, this guy was like it was you get it from

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this is the Hadith for the beginning of the revelation is reported in Lhasa Hain from Ottawa. Zubair Arusha. The wife of the Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam

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the beginning of the revelation that came to the messenger of allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam was good dreams. He never saw a dream, but it came like but he came true like bright daylight. Then seclusion was made dear to him. And he used to go to the cave of * out and worship there, which means that he went and devoted himself to worship for a number of nights, before coming back to his family to collect more provisions, then he would go back again. Then he would go back to Hadiya to collect more provisions. This went on until the until the truth came to him. Suddenly, when he was in the cave of a headlock. The angel came and said, Read, the messenger of allah sallallahu alayhi

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wa sallam said, I am not a reader. He said, Then he took hold of me, I hate the process that he said. Then he took hold of me and squeezed me and said, I could not bear it anymore. Then he released me and said, Read, I said, I am not a reader. He took a hold of me and squeezed me a second time until I could not bear it anymore. Then he released me and said, Read, I said, I am not a reader. He took hold of me and squeezed me a third time until I could not bear it any more than he released me and said, Read in the Name of your Lord, who has created all that exists. He has created man from a cloth, a piece of thick, coagulated, but read and your Lord is the Most Generous who has

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taught the writing by the pen. He has taught men that which he knew not. Then the messenger of allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam went back with his heart beating wildly until he came to Hadiya Roger Lavon her and said that Moodle needs me only cover me cover me. They covered him until his fear went away. Then he said to her deja Oh deja I fear for myself and he told her what happened. Khadija Roger Lavon

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Her said, may be of good cheer for by Allah, Allah will never disgrace you. You uphold the ties of kinship speak truthfully, help the poor and destitute. serve your guests generously and assist those who are stricken by calamity. Then Hadiya medulla Han had took him to autoclave enough and the son of habitational uncle. He was a man who had become a Christian during the day Helia. He used to write Arabic script and he used to write from the gospel in Arabic as much as Allah willed He should write. He was an old man who had become blind. Hadiya said, Oh, son of my Uncle, listen to what your nephew says. What I said, Oh, son of my brother, what have you seen? The Prophet sallallahu alayhi

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wa sallam told him what he had seen. What I said, this is the most who came down to Musa would that I were young would that I were young and could live until the time when your people will drive you out. The messenger of allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said, well, they really drove me out. What have I said? Yes, never has there never has the common man with that which you have brought, but he was persecuted. If I should live to see that day, I will support you strongly. But a few days later, Wanaka died. And the revelation also seized for a while until the messenger of allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam was filled with grief.

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Excellent, thank you so much. Okay.

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Let's do a bit of a pause here, actually. And of the there's three slides. Let's,

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let's take one slide each and reflect over it. Yeah. So like 1234, you can look over firstlight 123, we've covered a second slide. And once you free to confess, like, so what we're doing is we're taking the key takeaway points, some of the key

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takeaway points for each slide. And then we're going to discuss it together. And we're going to also talk about what the let's say enemies of Islam, or those who want to make a case against Islam would make up a story like this? And how would you respond to it based on the slide that you look at? You give us different slides? I'm passionate about the beginning. Do you mind if we go through that?

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Yeah, absolutely. No problem.

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So you want to do the first you want to the first you guys want? You guys don't care? Because I saw you guys do the first slide. Once you do the first you guys need a second you guys have to memorize the person.

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Okay, I'll give you 10 minutes.

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All right, and this feedback. The first part, I had these so who's who's looking out over looking at that? Yep. Yep. Yeah. So the Prophet SAW Selim started seeing dreams. And these dreams were turned into reality, all of them. And then he was inspired somehow to go to Mount Hara constantly, he would go there and seclude himself from everyone else for a very long time. Because every few days, he would come and get more provisions, which mean, like the Prophet SAW, Selim didn't actually eat a lot of food. So the fact that so the fact that he came to get food means that he stayed there for a long time.

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And then

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the angel came to want to continue.

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Sorry, just to add that he, he, we discussed that he must have felt frustrated within his society, because he needed to seclude himself for privacy, etc. Also, just to add, I think, personally, you know, what I talked about, you know, you go to a specific place, and it's that quiet. I think I'm in certain elements physically play a role in connecting to the Divine maybe, in the sense where eating less food,

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like you said, going somewhere where it's just quiet.

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And I think, yeah, just in a nutshell, when you look at it, there's that communication, monks do it. You know, it's as if they have these certain protocols that you have to do to maybe connect. So yeah, I think the fact that foster sons regularly going up there? Absolutely. Like you said, humans are dead silent. So yeah, it's these things, I think, play a role. And then having the spiritual aspect of connecting to Allah, I think it's both the physical and the spiritual sense, maybe, to add to what Ali was saying, as well just just popped into my mind. Now, we are actually advice to fast in times of difficulty, and I wonder why that is, because that's a that's a part of seclusion.

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Because when everybody's eating around you and you're not eating, you're abstaining from something which is

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something that is part of the normal life, you get it. And when you when you abstain from that and plus you're secluded from everybody else, it becomes a pondering explicit acts. What's that word?

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Not exhibition, pondering exhibition life for yourself. Yeah. And also you know, it's like if you realize that processor and when he talks about revelation coming down, you know and Nicola and Khurana This is rooted amount of demand to crumble. You will see that every time is something very, like you're in a very, very difficult place. The fact that he

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has been squeezed. The fact that he's like, Have I lost my mind? Like, you can see that he's in distress. And it just seems like there's a pattern of Allah subhanaw taala. Maybe that it's a heavier, it's a way it's heavy. And any, I guess anything that's coming that's going to be good for you or whatever this this hardship like, you know it was in the model three is that it's that hardship that eventually comes to the knees. But you see that pattern is always this difficulty and then the fact that he was reassured by Artesia saying that no, you haven't lost your mind was

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I was gonna say, sorry, I don't know if this is accurate. But when Musa al Islam received revelation when you received the message from first time, did he not exhibit fear as well? As if because he fell down in front? Well, that was at the time of the when he asked her to show yourself yeah, yeah, that's the I think that another time, but the first time he saw the light, yeah, he went there, and he come back with

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stuff that he had seen the second time. I don't know. I'm not sure but the latter half you know, there is this thing of like, Allah is trying I think Tarik is getting to the point like Allah's consoling No sir because it was it was a very

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it's a scary experience when you get boring

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there is fear that he falls down to the ground, out of fear out of fear when he was first when we first received Madonna if he fell down is when he when he when he came when he was skating so you're in a holy lands take your shoes or something? Well, one thing is that

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yeah, that is I think not to do with that. I think that's to do it. When are we talking about when when he saw when he said to Allah show me show me that.

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I'm talking about the first time he received message from Allah.

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Allah when his hand went thing and then he says for this your stuff? I don't know, the very first time he received a revelation from a message from Allah. He felt fear or something. Okay, so what people usually use for that is that you know, what the prophets of salaam sorry Prophet Musa was speaking to Allah in that situation. He did something referred to as in Bala has a Listen up, which is the difference. There's this when you over talk.

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So for example,

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automatically I mean, aka Musa, was this in your right hand or Musa? He said

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so he asked why he it's my stick

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our qawwali I use it to lean over well, who should we had our economy and I direct my kind of the castle with it. Well, yeah, beam Alia be mera wala

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whatever you hear Mara

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Walker and I have other uses for it.

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Now the acid that's my wife the other day, I had the stick because I hadn't, you know, some sickness had the sticks, because we're using a fossil I have whenever you have multiple

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different uses for the stick, not to her, I'm not directing it. But the point is, is that the scholars say about that, like, for example, in lots of series, like he started speaking a lot, which shows I had color, like you said, the kind of fear kind of anxiety because this is a very scary situation. When someone speaks a lot. He's sometimes it can show that you've got a bit of anxiety. So yeah, I do think that when Musa first the encounters, you mentioned that there was that level level anxiety. But going to the point here, this, talking about the Bible, there's actually a verse in chapter 29, verse 12, of Isaiah. And one thing we, I think we should look at is the fact that if,

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and then he says, Man, and we'll call it out the readers. And in chapter 29, verse 12, Isaiah says that any will set to be it will set to be him, sorry, it will be set to him read and he will say I'm not of the readers. So look, Isaiah has scattered prophecies about the Prophet Muhammad wa sallam, as you know, as I 4211 talking about, he's gonna come in the future and kill people of Qaeda and all this kind of stuff. But if you look at this verse, very interesting, because it talks about what will be said, You'll be said to him read, and he says, I'm not one of the readers. And this is exactly what the poem has said. Because what that means two or three different things in Arabic

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language, one of them is to reach from a piece of paper, there's also one was illiterate, so you couldn't read from this paper. And the other one is to read and to recite, so as you know, another interesting thing is that we're talking about dreams, right? And there's a hadith which is that basically, that in six months or six months the process of I had a wrote your Saudi coffin. No, he had this, he could see visions in his sleep over a solder coffin now, one of the other Hadees says that dreams are good dreams, real dreams or predictive dreams

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are 146 of

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prophethood one out of 46 Now you think it just off what an unusual fraction. But if you think about how long the Prophet was a prophet for he was a prophet for 23 years, and six months, 23 years is 146.

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So the prophets of Salem was a prophet for 23 years, right? So from 40 to 63, that's when he died. And 146 is six months out of 23. Six months out of 23 is one out of 46. So that means every six months, he had something not every six months for six months, every night he would have dream, your

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dream will come true. Okay, so he had predict these predictably. Now, dreams are interesting. Freud wrote a book about dreams. Sigmund Freud. And you know, he had this theory, I don't want to go into too much psychology, we had to save the ego, the super ego.

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Not going into too much by the unconscious mind was a massive thing in Freudian psychology or the unconscious mind. They don't call it the subconscious mind. This is a new vernacular discussion that people will use. But the real word in psychoanalysis was the unconscious mind. And young as well, and a lot of the psychoanalyst they believed in that. And he wrote a book on dreams because they believed that to tap into the unconscious mind, you go into the unconscious dreams are one of the purest way to do that. Now Islamically the dream is divided into three, the dreams which are predictive from Allah wrote, yeah.

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And then you have a lateral botany, you literally have what scholars way before Freud referred to as the unconscious mind.

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So for example, you have to have bottle actual botany that your mind is absorbing things. And then it happened. Like for example, say, a *. You see so many things like, before I got married, I see so many dreams, so so to say. But what is that? Because you're suppressing, suppressing, suppressing, and then it happens every every every week. So yeah, effectively the neffs. It's interesting, you mentioned that, and I'll come to in a second but because the neffs itself what is in essence, the scholars have spoken, but the third thing is we sort

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of brought you from Allah subhanaw taala, the the unconscious, the Aqua button, and the third one is from chateau.

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Yeah, lamb in Wilmette, and that will be will likely be BBB BBB, because it

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will be something from the last part of that. And I thought this was useful. When he saw in source Yusuf when the people were asked about what are the king's dream, he says, these are just jumbled up dreams. So he shows it as Huh, no. Oh, my Nana, will

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be Alamut Yeah, we were not from the title of that. We don't know what Shala is, is become much more solid in the Quran, that when you went to Morocco, did you also have the same experiences I did

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not trust me is going back. Yeah, I can I can see I can see the improvements.

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Like solidify this. But as I was saying, so this is these are the three dreams, the nefs one of snowmaster Wi Fi llama voodoo, and this one I'm not gonna get

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the neffs is it has two kinds of things right when I single Mersa, where, by the neffs by the self. And but how Allah has proportioned if I'll have a fedora with the class as two aspects, it has the transgressive nature, and it has the protective nature. Now in many ways, this is quite similar. There are areas of overlap between this and Freudian psychology, because the Freudian psychoanalyst will tell you Look, there's the the ego and the super ego, the ID, this is what he says, When the human being is born is animalistic. He acts on his base desires, he's visceral. Yeah. And then after that, his parents the primary socializers, they give him rules and regulations. This is the ego, the

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ego in this trichotomy is, or this tripartite distinction, the ego is the rules. And then you have the super ego which interplays or which kind of decides when the is going to be operational, when the super when the ego is going to be operational. In many ways, Islam agrees with that sentiment, not exactly that taxonomy, which is that that human being is composed of effectively a visceral side, transgressive side, and also a protective side. Now, it's interesting that Freud wrote a book called Civilization and its Discontents, his solution was, look, just express yourself effectively, Islamic solution is not actually protect yourself, and know when suppression is appropriate, and

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know when expression is appropriate. So for example, Allah son Quran, well, Kelsey Meenal, Hydrolat finanace. They're the ones who suppress their anger. That's good.

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Because in terms of the visceral, animalistic side, you've got two things which you've got the animal, you've got the sexual and aggressive urges. These are the two things that are usually mentioned. So what I'm saying is, there's a lot of interplay here, but the point is, in the beginning of and this was a tangent, I have to say, in the beginning of the revelation

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the fact that the prophets of salaam was getting consistent coherent dreams on a daily basis effectively for six months. Once again, it goes to the point of coherence and hallucinations are not coherent let alone

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story like, like we said before, I don't know if you remember the algae like and Netflix series, like where it links together, hallucinations are working that way. You don't take a magic mushroom and have one dream. And then two days later, another magic mushroom. And this is like, last time when such and such hallucinations is and then it's a story like and it's coherent. Doesn't work like that. Who says that work like that?

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Now, let's go to the second.

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Is there anything else in Iran to mention about that? Okay, enjoy, hug them, squeezing him to read them? Yeah, you want to make sure you think about that?

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I mean, the only thing we can say is that it's clear that he doesn't know how to read. Yeah.

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That now the vs EcoLog misanthropic Allah the Haleakala Colin cinnamon Allah, if caught up, well bucola Karim Allah Allah will Halima Lemelin, Santa malema, Malayalam, Bella Mia. So read, let's read and your Lord is the Most Generous sorry, read in the Name of your Lord who created all that exists. He created him a breed from a clot clot is Allah something which clings something could be they've translated as conjugated blood, or I don't know how they translated. But it could mean alaka is something which is connective. How do we know that because what called Buho Motala can be massaged the hadith is like one of the people that will be underneath Allah's shade, and there's no

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shade except for his shade is a person whose heart is connected to the message of the word connection is metallic and is connected. So Allah means to connect something to hang something from somewhere. The boiler caught, for example, the poems that they used to put on the cap, but they couldn't, because he hadn't done the cab.

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So there's lots of things like that which indicate that connection, that word means that something was cleaned something was not new scientific explanation. This is actually one of the few of the meanings of the word Allah, Allah created human beings from this.

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Read and your Lord is the Most Generous, so that it's very interesting that the first name after

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that Allah had decided to speak about himself as his generous one. Why? Because it's very befitting, since he's being so generous of us to give us guidance, which is the biggest gift of all.

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You know, Alethea, Allah will call him the one who taught with the pen.

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And it's so powerful that Allah is mentioning the instrument here, the pen, the pen, because what separates human beings from all other animals. One of the things that separates them is the fact that they're able to codify to write down civilizational stuff. Now, you can't see, animals don't communicate with each other. But you can see no other animal writes down that communication and saves it for next generations. No other animal does that. No dolphin doesn't know and does that no chimpanzee does that. Only human beings do that. And that's the distinguishing factor between human beings and other animals being described.

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Was there anything significant about the action of squeezing the Why was the particular thing necessary? The thing is this wisdoms we can kind of extrapolate from ourselves or why squeezing? The thing is when when you're hallucinating, or when you think you're hallucinating. When you go through a sensory experience, it kind of reaffirms the fact that this is not a hallucination. Because more of your senses are being activated. Because you hallucination very rarely happens in more than one sense. Like for example, even if you look at it, delusion hallucination, they usually break it down. You can hear things, there's there's auditory hallucination, there's visual hallucination, and this

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physical layer for all of it to happen together.

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Is more this is more credence to the fact that this is not hallucination isn't actual event. And also another thing we can find is that for example, if today I said you know what? Problems Be careful, you know, there's some thieves walking around. But if I just said in that tone, you'd be like, Okay, maybe got something, but five, come on, I'm gonna brothers, stop everything I need to, and I'm not from my emotions, to imagine I'm raising my voice, you're gonna take that much more serious and become less imposes on it gives you the seriousness of the point.

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Absolutely, why not? And so it says here, then the processor went back to Khadija says that Milan is in Bologna, put the covers on me.

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Now, this whole thing is so authentic.

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Like if you think about how this is being reported, it's not like heroic. This is showing vulnerability. It's like it was his his heart was racing. He had a physiological response. He's saying cover me to his wife. His wife is comforting him

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in doubt, yeah. And this this doubt, by the way, like, he wanted to know, and this is a good point because they say, well, using mongoose nation, he himself thought he was someone who is hallucinating doesn't think that

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doesn't doubt it, speak to a schizophrenic person, there are assured that what they're seeing is correct.

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Sometimes they can like to get a schizophrenic person out of schizophrenia, it takes a lot of time. But for them to be questioning something, is an indication of the authenticity of the lack of hallucination rather than the affirming of it. How can you doubt it? Because if you speak to people that have these disorders,

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at the point of them having it they don't doubt it, for the most part, but for the most part, these for the most part, these disorders, they are telling you what they feel rather than doubting it or close question, and it's because he was it? Was it something that came to mind? Or kind of he's like, I'm I'm an Effie, is that the fact that you're thinking? I'm gonna fix shows, you know, I'm gonna fix? Yeah, the fact that you can self assess. You can look at things from an outsider's point that you can account yourself and ask yourself these questions. That's actually an authentic sign.

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Because, as I say, go and speak to people that are have these disorders.

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Because someone will say, well, even he thought it was hallucination. Well, in the first bit in the beginning, the first time he's been confronted with a new reality, if this was not involved in the story, I would anyone will say, this is doubtful. How could this news reality happen? And he doesn't have any he doesn't question at all. So for four years of his life, he didn't have anything like this. And for the first time, he's not even questioning what's happening to him on a physiological level. That's, that's what the problematic the fact based question is, am I okay, I'm I'm okay. He's asking for third party.

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Authentication. That's that if you think about it, yeah. Because imagine what revelation that came and said, Yeah, I've just been shown as a Trojan as a prophet. Yes. It's the fact that he's questioning show this authenticity, because he's in this like, you don't want to say there's no arrogance of yeah, I've got chills. And it's like, how I did I see what's going to help me. There's a vulnerability to it. And then Khadija took him to work up north. So who done that one? The third one?

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Just second, one. Second. Sorry. Second one. The third one is the third one. Is this. Yeah. Okay. So who done the second one? Okay. I think you've covered most of it. Yeah. So one aspect, which Ayana is good, it's better that way. But one aspect maybe from a, from us learning from his Syrah, and how we can implement is that he was human, and that he had these emotions, and it's someone we can relate to. And we discussed how, you know, seeing something like an angel in that in that atmosphere, you're going to be so scared and shiver, like, you'll be trembling. Like we've seen some videos on YouTube, they try and do some AI of what what angels might look like from a biblical

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source and they look really scary from that perspective. Not saying that it would look like that, but you can imagine seeing it so it's something that we can relate to and the prophet at the end days. He's not Angel, he's a human and we have to learn

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how the best of humans were so just trying to think of it from that lesson that he was emotional and that the how we how we can kind of implement this so but I think you covered most of it in terms of like read and in terms of the idea of or aspects of, like hubris I I'm a prophet instant. Yes. And not that there's a lot of that in the Quran. Like if you're in sort of Catherine, it says that if you had seen them, they will let him in him Ferrara will will summon him robber, if you had seen these people in the cave, you would have run away from them and terror. Yeah, the Allah saying that sort of Prophet Muhammad, Salah, Salah, the, you know, the people in the cave, and sort of calf, oh,

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in chapter 18 in the Quran, because the way they somehow were frightening. So there's different there's different theories as to why these people had been looked like they had died, you know, in the cave that Allah has moved in body so that they don't get burned by the sun and all this kind of thing. But the showerhead here that I'm bringing to you is that Allah He he, he humanizes the Prophet Muhammad salah. Like in the beginning of the story, he mentioned that in the end also, this is a school in the medina Bosch Rahmatullah from you Hi, La ilaha illa who say I'm a human being just like you. And I'm just revealing to you that the God a God is one God Danny. So at that point

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I'm making is that this is an authentic marker. The vulnerability of the Prophet Muhammad wa Salam is being manifest his his fear is trepidation. His worry, like it's mentioned in a very authentic it's not heroic ly light it's showing you okay, the human side rather than the, you know, as you mentioned, like Superman or it's not like that. Is that any other points? I think while Prophet sallallahu sallam was returning from the gift to his house, in the way he started up in his actual

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any horizon and that also increased his fear, somehow to see the angel with all its way

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Since, from one reason to another one whole area was covered, and he was calling on him

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he was coming down. I mean, that whole experience, I mean, no one can lie and say that this is and you know, it's a desolate place like, especially at night and stuff, imagine how this would have looked. Imagine how that would have looked, you're by yourself. That scary man that is scattered to anyone says, I've been to that place. And I've been there with hundreds of people that actually 1000s of people because everyone was filling, imagined by myself in this place, that would be I would be very, very scared. Like anyone would be like that is, especially when it's dark, and you're by yourself. And you're seeing creatures, sorry to say, but it's kind of like a horror film. It's

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like a horror film. And one thing as well, touching on Deja and her role in this, the amount of faith she had in the Prophet and the belief and how she mentioned some of the things that, you know, the Honorable ranking and the traits of the Prophet. And this just shows a ranking of off Khadija as well. And the honor that she has as well, I think that needs to be discussed as Yeah, absolutely in Casilla that you are the one who

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joins the ties of kinship and you and you help the destitute and you didn't think he was schizophrenic or you've seen thing Oh, issues.

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Evident you Allah will never.

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That's interesting, because she is so cute. I find that very, very interested in this part because she's affirming by a few character traits, characteristic traits, that because the processing came and said, I think I've lost my mind. Let's take a look at those trades. so profound, because to me, it's like the future has knowledge. Yes. And knows that and she says, Allah will never disgrace you because you have ABCD. And it's like, it's not a matter of like you pray salah. I know it wasn't revealed them. But she made sure she mentioned certain characteristic traits. And to me, it's very these are the characteristic traits and she says Allah will never disgrace you you uphold the ties

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of kinship, you speak truthfully, you help the poor and destitute you serve your guests generously, and you assist those who are stricken by calamity, which shows you that there's a FITARA like they understood by fitrah, what was good morality. These are good things to do in society, you're doing them exactly normally, that you're not even to be assessed. For example, even if a foreign government if they are just Allah will give them victory. Oh, I don't know if it says over believing nation, that Muslims, but the matter of justice is so profound, because what's the greatest justice and it's not to heat the grids oppression is what ship so it's very interesting that this, this this

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thing of notion of justice is mentioned here and that and is connected to success? Yes, absolutely. And she she mentioned four very powerful trades, shows you how how consoling she was the prophet Muhammad Salah Salah how how good of a woman she was to him. And why like to be honest. You know, your friends and your close people on the time of the show date of the calamities. That's what Allah says in the Quran, lf fitna at Sokoto, certain people in difficulties they they dropped the effectively stuck to the drops. And when the difficulty comes, they drop. So he had such a connection with Khadija because of how she was with him in times of difficulty. Difficulty is what

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shows you the worth of people effectively. That's what is shoes how supportive he was, because for a long time he was awake in the cave. And when he returned, in today's world, women will say we will

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be alone for a long time. She give him support. This is very wise. And this is very full of wisdom. There is one more point as well of driving you out of your land and people. Yes. What are you predicted?

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Yeah. Now yes, that's the third one. If you can make recomend this is my third is my point. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, don't

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bother. I was sitting here change. So that's our

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third is my protection. Okay, we should get started with federal financial aid, we can continue the second one sorry. I think the second one now is finished. So let's start with the third one. I'll start with you and God. So the key point I'm taking from here is bringing forward truth. And there have been a number of theories on how to get accepted versus being ridiculed. Second, people fight it. Third people accept it. So if at any stage, you stop, then it's your fault, not people's fault. And if you study people who brought like truth in new messages, the same thing happened to them. So what I predicted that and he did tell him, this is kind of what's gonna happen to you, if that

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happens, I will be by your side if I if I'm going to live that long. So that's something that prediction was already given to him. And second, the question is, did he die as a muslim? Or did he die as a non Muslim? That's a lot of scholars say that.

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Intention exactly because of intention, he will be exactly because he said if I if I was to live, I will support you. Yeah. Because you only believe that he will. There's a discussion on scholars by opposite by the way. So for example, if someone has the intention

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To leave Islam, majority of scholars say they've already left every every

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intention. So if someone says okay by, like, for example, there was a particular woman that after undertake became Muslim, she said very famously on tour she came on, because if she becomes Muslim go live, or something like that was a leave or something like that. A lot of scholars would say she's already left.

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Like, this is an important principle of like, if you have an intention to go in, it's the same thing of like having intention to come out. So these are both Well, let's go to the third one again. So who else has got anything with the third one? Interesting, yes.

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Mentioned Musa before Jesus.

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And the brother was explaining that potentially what I've been offered, believed that Jesus was divine, some sort of divinity attribute him and

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he didn't believe in that because he was more hidden. He believed in one God, no, no God, but not a prophet. He, he didn't believe that he was only prophet. He didn't believe that He was God. See, that's the thing. We don't know much of that evidence. Do we have an

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became key became Christian. Christian was the

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Christian Christian, he converted to Christianity. There were three guys, they were three friends. One was David normatively LaVale. What covenant? He was Christian. But the question is of whether he was a unit Unitarian, or not less a question, because a lot of scholars say, well, it was one of those people that was Minister of fat and so on and so forth. It was Zaidi now, but

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there is a discussion, we'll look into it like we did last time, and I'll see what I find. But for sure at some say that he did become Muslim as a result of, of how he responded to the Prime Minister Salam. Why did he mention Musar? Islam or not? Jesus? A lot of people say was because the front is Islam. Actually, he resembles Moses more than he does Jesus.

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Yeah, there's that there's like the predictions, but also the fact that they both became prophets at 40, that they both had a community of people that they were what went to Washington, and they both went to war and all this kind of thing. So Moses was the best example to use in this situation, because a lot of the stuff that happened to Moses with happened to promisor so it would, wouldn't be the kind of Jesus Alehissalaam according to the even our narrative he didn't live as as similar a life to the Prophet then Moses in terms of leading the people in war, he didn't even call him Musa yeah, sometimes he would call the maskings. Really,

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very good friends. Okay, so this is these are the three three things that the Prophet SAW Salem at the end of this is that he was filled with grief, because of the cessation of, of the revelation. And with near, we're near the end of the episode, but on this point, there is a szoba there is a difference, or God call it like adulto or something, which people say, Well, this is a Hadith let me read it out for you. First, it says this.

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As though he basically narrates that the prophet has

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the Human Rights at the White House, I Salam said that speaking of that period, when the revelation sees whilst I was walking, I heard a voice from the sky I looked up and saw the angel who came down had come to me and Hera sitting on a chair between the heavens and the earth is what you mentioned before and then I felt scared of him. So I came home as a cover to cover me Okay. This one is what you that's actually what you mentioned. Yeah.

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You've already mentioned that so that's good. Then Allah told the prophet Muhammad cuz we had a caller

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which was the personal revelation of the Prophet Muhammad says and then you had Elmo desert Yeah, you can fit into one bucket for cupboard with fabric of the headwaters of I just wallet for

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chapter 74 Verses one to five, which is now he's the prophet of Salem has been told to go and warn the community to go and warn the community. Okay.

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Which has gone back to the first point is why

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they say oh, no, be a bit be ACARA we're all syllable Mudassar that the process Allah He was made a profit with a camera and then he's made the messenger with with Elmo death.

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As though he says that Asha states that then we'll read out there she said, at the revolution sees for a while for so as long as the professor solemn, became sad. According to the reports that have reached us, he was so sad that on several occasions, he wanted to throw himself on the top of the high mountains. But every time he went to the top of the high mount in order to throw himself down from it, you bring a prayer to Him and said, Oh, Muhammad, you are true, truly the Messenger of Allah and when he and he would come down as a result and feel ease and he would go back, and when the revelation sees for a long time, he would do this

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Same thing again. Now with this particular Hadith, the following has been said,

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Mohammed mentions that the ones who say that, according to the ports that have reached us, is a Saudi. So as AVI is making these claims, now in Hadith sciences, this is referred to as a mudra. Charities, were effectively the the statements of the tabulation and all this harbor are mixed with the overall saying, so imagine saying that this is not something that actually said that this is something that's already presumed, and he was seeing this. So yes, you'll find this Harrison Bahati. But it has caught on as you know, he's probably the foremost authority authority when it comes to

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explaining behind it, he said that this is not a hadith. Or this this information is not from actual Delana itself is a fact this was already

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and this is what's been mentioned by other scholars as well. But let's say for the sake of argument, that's not the case. So once this assumption

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is authentic, the hadith is Buhari, I just read out, however, the edition which talks about throwing himself off, even harder than others are saying, This is not from the words of Aisha, she's not narrating this

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authentically was not connected to a tweet his wife No. So the point is, is that whether it's connected or not, by the way, another question Some scholars say it's not even connected. Like you have more alacarte and stuff like that. Have you said I'm not connected? Right? That's another question. That was Bernie for example, comes out and says, Oh, just had this isn't even connected the fact this and why it doesn't matter and whatever, because then why do you got 7000 Odd Hadith 1000 of them or maybe less?

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So the question is, some had this ask the question, are the mala Hadees Hadees not connected, actually part of it behind Israel framework or not? That's a different question. There's the primary question as to say that this hadith is narrated by Saudi Abu Shahab, Bizzarri, who is a huge figure whether and Hadith and he was the one who was commissioned in the like, say, the second century AD by the government to do TEDWomen of the Sunnah. Actually, he was the one who's commissioned to write down and compile the Sunnah. He was one of the first states attempt, actually the first attempt that I know of, where the government the Islamic government had told him, I told anybody to compile the

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Sunnah was at the hands of this big, huge scholar every Shabbos Zari. So anyway, what the scholars like even Hajin others are saying, is that a sort of he is the one who's saying that, you know, the Prophet, would God any want to jump off the high mountains? And so and it's not actually from the words of ash, because it's not Hadith? It's not the profit thing is not Karla Coca Cola? Not saying anything here. This is a description of events. So who's describing it she's describing? What is an agile saying is not actually this is a commentary of the description by Azadi rather than what actually said. But let's for the sake of argument, say it's not No problem. I'm sure there's a

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scholar out there that doesn't believe that. I haven't looked at it. But definitely the majority opinion, if not, it's consensus, that this was the addition of a story. How does this disprove the prophethood of Muhammad? He actually supports it. So for example, we would say we would say like suicide has been made haram through the Hadith, that the ones who commit suicide He's like, he's doing it for a long time and hellfire, like if you caught yourself crying and sobbing and so on, that had this has not been revealed. So suicide as a as a gerima was haram thing had not even been made haram at that point. So you could argue that even if this was if this was true, it doesn't

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the profit from houses. What was the argument there, that he was so depressed either there's no argument to be made here, in fact, but we're saying that we don't believe in that. Based on, as we've mentioned,

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these are quality Alama. And this very important thing.

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Now, there's two periods of cessation. And this can become a little bit confusion confusing to people, because there's two times where the revelation had been stopped. And in the hydrological and he said that the period of

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revelation cessation in

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the beginning was different to the one for sort of DA, because we know in sort of Doha, the force was Doha was revealed. Doha chapter nine, three of the Quran that there was a period of cessation. He's saying, No, this is a different time. So there was two periods where the revelation was ceased according to evangelize Kalani. Now, with this being said,

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How long was that period? There's a whole difference of opinion. If you look at

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think page number 23. Or thing number 23. Slide number 23. It's hot, says the first time the first period of secession was three years in the catharsis two and a half years versus 40 days, if not assures us 40 days. So we have a range here from 40 days to two years, which shows you how little we know about the campaign.

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Three years firstly, yeah, six months is difference of as I said, it's this result massive difference of opinion, right? So.

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So Marshall says the cessation of the, of the revelation of the process salaam happened on two occasions. The first one was before the revelation suitable data. Yeah, which is chapter 74 of the Quran. And that was before that was wonderful from how Salam feared that the revelation has ceased completely and dies when the period when he saw Gibreel see in between the throne between the heavens and the earth. Yeah. The second occasion was, was approximately eight sewers had been revealed. This is why I'm not sure to sing, yeah, those that were revealed in the first period of sensation. So I have come after tensors. And so those two times, what's the what's the wisdom behind

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that? The wisdom behind that is, it creates a thirst for the revelation, it creates a thirst for the revelation. And this is not just a case with like, Yanni, that you would know this from maybe your relationship with human beings.

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You know, if you have a wife, or if you have this,

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children or I don't know, like, even your parents, sometimes the best thing is distance, because it creates extreme.

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It's an anxiety but enthusiasm, beautiful, thank you. It's like I want it more now, like your thirst, thirst, and it created that thirst and that Torkel and the process Salama at that time, was being matured for us for a greater task. And obviously, when, when the source came down, these were great events in history of Islam, especially with Doha in the second time, as we know, and the whole thing is filled with symbolism and of light and so on. Doha means the sunlight itself of the daylight.

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And one more thing I want to cover because we never finished him

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is the question is how did the prophets of salaam see I was gonna I was gonna add another 10 slides is a good thing. I didn't

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see overall color singing slides, no thanks. But the products are selling would receive revelation in different ways. So I'm going to quickly read this chakra, can you read this for me?

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Sorry to say the ways of Revelation, slide 24 As a small one.

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Will show my friends

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I shall deliver on her. May Allah be pleased with how reported and how to commune Hashem. May Allah be pleased with him asked the messenger of allah sallallahu alayhi wa salam, O Messenger of Allah, how does the revelation come to you? The messenger of allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said, sometimes it comes to me like the ringing of a bell. And that is the hardest for me. When it leaves me, I remember what it has said. And sometimes the angel appears to me in the shape of a man, he talks to me and understand what he says, I shall deliver on her said, I saw him when the revelation was descending upon him on a very cold day, when it had left him his forehead was dripping with. And

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that's amazing like that last part of it is, you know, the revelation. She saw him on a cold day and his forehead was dripping with sweat. How can you fake a physiological response? That's what I want to know. Like even the greatest actor in the world, you can fake crying. That's the yes, your *, your max. But without physical exercise, you can't fake swing. How'd you do it? Like, it tells me how to do that. Because he faking to faking sweat on your forehead, on a cold button. Like, that's something you can't do. No Hollywood actor can do that. Unless they take pills or something to speed up their hearts. Does. Why does he have to be like she was a false prophet? Why does even

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need to show that he can just allocate revelation? Why does he need to show you? That is for me, it's a big one. And there's another Hadith as well, which talks about the camel, I'm not sure if you've come across the sorts of matters that came down. And the width the weight of revelation was so heavy, the camel went down, only that there was a component when he I think his knee. Shin was over. He said, I felt like my Yes, yes. And these are very powerful, very, very powerful, very powerful. And the other one is, you know, like a very famous Hadith one of the most famous in Islam

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where Gibreel came and then he asked of my mother Islam or my email normally I send here What is Islam? Or what is he meant when

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he came in the form of human beings?

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Yeah, there's one part I want to happen there is a Hadith, one part of that hadith, which says, what I want out of whom in that hat, no one knew who he was from us. So okay, how do you explain this? Because I want to know, like, you got this guy who's it doesn't load or ally, suffer. There. You don't find in him the effects of travel. And he's coming in with a white thought, Okay. And he's coming to the problem how Salem and asking him Mel e mail Islam, and the five pillars, white male email, email, those six pillars, multi asset and double lock and hackathon and so on.

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Asking him key questions. He says what is Who is this? It's Jabri.

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He came to teach your religion. This is what is the Wednesday hours and members will unhappier be LM in a second. The one who doesn't know the one who has been asked doesn't know as much as the one who's asking, this is my authority. What is the portents of it and he says that the barefooted Arabs, will Lithgow Aluna Bonilla, and so on this very famous Hadith that will raise to create the highest buildings.

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The showerhead here is that

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yes, there was this thing of what's his name?

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There was they said that he looked like a particular hobby, which is the hub in Calgary. Owl Kelby the * Kelby this, I look like a bit like Daniel Kilby. That up looked like him. But on top so he said that no one knew who this guy was. This guy they came? How? How could you event human being that everyone's looking at?

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As the most famous Hadith in Islam? Effectively? Everyone's looking at this guy. How did you create a human being that can come ask you these questions and he's got white garments.

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So the fact that if you think about the ways in which the process run was granted Revelation, the sweating, the weight, the camel going down a human being an old saw white clothes as a dusty environment. Now you're going into, you have to go into conspiracy theory as to how this all happened.

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Because it's out of his control.

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I mean, imagine, let's just play for the for the sake of argument, let's just just play devil's advocate for a moment what had to happen. Yeah, sorry to say, this claimant of profit will have to go somewhere. Listen, make sure you don't come with any dirty clothes.

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It becomes absurd. Yanni come strategically, make sure that I'm just gonna be sitting down, make sure you come over here, but make sure there's no there's no like, any accent on you anything like that. You're going to come out with a mask on your face covering yourself. So it's a friend of mine or someone you're a new guy. And everyone is saying and this is a small community of a small population on top who's one of the food figures and no one none of us knew who his doubts. So you've got to come in, you're gonna sit down and you're gonna ask me some questions about Islam.

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And these are people that knew the grand grand for each individual. Yeah, they have the GH genealogies and all that kind of stuff. Come on, come on up here. What would we have to say about to create this conspiracy theory?

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I mean, it's an even the head some will say what the * Kelby? Yeah, someone will say, well, there's some hands that say look like they're here. This guy called the hair, but they say he looked like him. It wasn't him. He looked like it if I had to guess you look like him. He looked closer to him. But it wasn't him. No one thing is him. Because our autopsy was no one knew who he was from us. So who is he? That's Hold on. Tell me I want to know from the donors from the atheist for example. Who is this guy that was coming to us to put this on? We'll just questions and to who tell me who is his name? What's the what's the theory that you've got? about who this guy is? That everyone didn't

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know? He was but the Prophet knew. Now what was he hiding? Mask? No, no, no. Where was he hiding? Oh, no. Yeah, Annie How could you get access to such a man he spoke Arabic. He wasn't the ad Jimmy

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YEAH, because in the Quran does this thing about Susan

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please send let's listen to leather you'll do not either he added me in who had the lesson not to be a movie. Right? Fine. That's for example, there was one guy wasn't even the hail Kelby or somebody else is that there was a guy who was agile me. I forget his name. And Susan Nahal chapter 16. It says that this person's tongue is not even Arabic tongue. And this is this Quran is in Arabic. So who is this person that's coming with speaking Arabic with the garments and all that? You can't give me a theory for this. And this is a very, very powerful argument for the veracity of Islam, which is just the methods of how the first Islam received revelation the weight the sweat, the person the

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mysterious man, that listen that jet black air. Yeah, jet black hair, just so I can stand up. Everyone new jet black hair, white clothes coming in. Come on, man.

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This is not a can't be Hollywood film. What are you talking about? What did you get to hide him? No, no. And with that, guys,

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we conclude? Oh, yes. Any question?

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Yeah, please.

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Just I was listening to this session. I was thinking about like, a lot of these critiques like they're very lazy. Yes. Like Allah says in the Quran about like, you know, kinetic imagine a demon company milestone in LA Canosa nonvisual. There hasn't come a messenger before. Except that the people said I, you know, he's a magician. He's crazy. He's a very kind of lazy refutations. You know, it doesn't really amount much more than like, a year three, that sort of name calling response. You know, you have all of these evidences that are being brought and produced the kinds of things that we've been discussing today. And a person wants to reject it on the basis that you know,

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he's just a madman. He's just crazy. I'm gonna think 100 losses like I'm watching this a years ago, but he said that like talking about the Iowa losses and collana

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You know, a massage table complemented by imagining that is your companion is not it's not crazy that in it is sort of like in a shadow that a lot refer to the process and as your companion like you've known this man for 40 years exam, you know for all of you know that he's not like that. You know what else is just to add to that, but I think that's a fantastic point by the way, but I just to add to it, it shows you that human beings, you don't have to be a psychologist or a psychoanalyst to recognize what insanity looks like most human beings, you know what insanity? We all know, it looks like, you can be a lay man and identify insanity and psychosis, you don't need to be a

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specialist. So I'm saying is when it's wise to have a commitment we made you known. You're your friend, your companion is not insane. Effectively, it doesn't have psychosis because insanity is, by the way, as you know, the recipe, or insanity is psychosis. That's what it is. Insanity is when you lose touch of reality. The technical psychological term for that is psychosis, you've lost touch with reality. And we said that that comes in the form of all these mental disorders.

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We have the ability to see somebody if you meet a psycho, if you meet a schizophrenic person, if I show you what they look like, especially in the episodes, you will know straight away this guy is not sorry, say he's not the same as everyone else. And I know if you meet a bipolar person in a manic episode, there's no chance they're gonna say they have suicidal ideation and jump off this and do that it's gonna kill that one.

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They're not acknowledge that you know, sometimes that's that's literally a physical traits, etc, to see that, but some there wasn't an original, I read about a Jewish man who saw the processor and when he was young, and he said, this, this boy is you know, we went through that last week. Yeah, remember? And then And then afterwards, when this Prophet came, this was a man who actually, if he was he was one in there that believe in him or something, and then end up being a prophet. And then he was the first rejecting either about that. Okay, this next week, is so profound, and he actually an insult to Jews that they knew the process and that they know the back of their hand. They knew

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and they were waiting for him. Yeah, but just because he was not, you know, rejected. Yeah, there was as well as tribalism for sure, and have an even tribalism within the Arabs.

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You know, having said that, we'll come shoot with that hopefully benefited offshore did Santa Monica Latos law he gets

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