Adnan Rashid – God has a motherTwo christians vs adnan Rashidheated altercation

Adnan Rashid
Share Page

AI: Summary ©

The conversation is about the history and meaning of worship, with speakers discussing personal qualities and experiences related to worship. The church's confusion with the new Eastern girlfriend may affect their faith. There is also discussion of Catholicism and theology, but the conversation is difficult to follow and centered around proposal to stop universal Catholic policy.

AI: Summary ©

00:00:00 --> 00:00:05
			The doctrine of the Trinity was declared to be the official doctrine of the Christian Church, which
was Catholic.
		
00:00:07 --> 00:00:07
			Am I talking to him? Are you
		
00:00:10 --> 00:00:10
			talking?
		
00:00:11 --> 00:00:14
			I don't know. But I rule when we talk, we talk
		
00:00:17 --> 00:00:18
			about cagefighting.
		
00:00:29 --> 00:00:33
			We are very respectful pinsentry He's talking about
		
00:00:39 --> 00:00:40
			she has
		
00:00:43 --> 00:01:28
			no one else. There is no one else beside him. In what? In what? What Jesus actually said to Him,
worship the Lord, with all thy mind, with all thy heart, with all thy soul. And the Jew turns around
and says, Yes, you have spoken the truth. There is no one else beside him, quoting the book of
Isaiah, chapter 44, verse six, and the first and the last. There is no witness beside me. And it is
the father speaking by the way, it is not the son, not the spirit. It is the father speaking there
in the book of Isaiah. So if that's the case, my brother, devotion, dedication, worship is only
dedicated to one person, and that is the fight. I promise you, I have no problem. But still, you say
		
00:01:28 --> 00:02:06
			you have no issue. We don't have an issue. I'm not counting myself. So I'm just saying that you then
said, worship devotion to our holy prayer. Now you need to define what worship and devotion means.
Did you read it? If he spoke to the Catholic, they would say they worship, they would say that they
do not devote because the important thing to them is that by submitting to the price, they would say
they do not submit to marry. So please tell I acknowledged earlier, I'm saying because you just had
washed the boat, I understand I have no problem with that. But Catholic will also understand that
they don't worship and devote themselves to Catholic will say because you won't
		
00:02:08 --> 00:02:18
			I understand you're fine. French, I acknowledged earlier that Mary is not regarded as God. Strictly
speaking by the Catholics,
		
00:02:19 --> 00:02:24
			they regard her as the Mother of God, which is the articles.
		
00:02:25 --> 00:02:43
			God bearer, the one who carried God, which is the idea the thought is absurd in itself. How can God
be carried by a woman in her stomach? God was confined within the stomach of a woman and then he
came out, he came out, and then a placenta followed? I don't want to go.
		
00:02:44 --> 00:02:51
			I mean, he just he just sort of, you know, yeah, come on. Sorry. Okay. I'll avoid and avoid extra
No, but
		
00:02:52 --> 00:03:33
			I rather go into that type of issue anyway. Because I think that's what I'm not Catholic myself. If
you issue Mariology, that's a that's a, I know, Catholics don't regard me as God. Where, where we do
find the problem is when they pray to her as an intermediary, because they are now claiming that
Mary can actually hear them. So now let's, let's let's, let's take this scenario, as an example,
there is a Catholic in Ecuador. Okay, who, you know, Native Americans or South Americans that
Catholic predominantly, right? Or there's a Catholic person praying in Amazon jungle, there's
another Catholic person praying in Calcutta in India, right? There's another Catholic praying
		
00:03:33 --> 00:03:58
			somewhere in, let's say, in Russia, okay, there are Catholics in Russia, okay. And now all three of
them are praying to Mary, thinking Mary can hear them. And if Mary can hear all three of them at the
same time, then there is no difference between Mary and God. Because he carries the same attributes
as God, we call polytheism. What we call it shook in attribution. Okay. So they don't have to
actually worship Mary.
		
00:04:00 --> 00:04:28
			To to attribute godly qualities to her, right? They just have to give those qualities to her. And
then they indirectly call her God. Okay? Not directly, indirectly. They're saying that she may have
some qualities of God, although she's not God, she may have some qualities or attributes of God,
which is, again, if she can hear everyone and everything, and God can hear everyone and everything,
so, okay, okay. Yeah, I don't want to defend it too much. Because I mean, I don't
		
00:04:30 --> 00:04:31
			I reject Mariology. So
		
00:04:33 --> 00:04:59
			we agree, but I would just say for Catholic mercy, I would say they would not define Omnipresence in
the way that you would I don't blame them. So I don't blame them. Do you believe but I don't
actually blame the Catholics for doing this. You know why? Because the theology they have inherited.
The Council of Chartered on 451 C. Mary was declared, amazingly, for centuries after Jesus. For some
reason, the Christian suddenly realized that she could
		
00:05:00 --> 00:05:00
			is the Mother of God
		
00:05:02 --> 00:05:12
			first Jesus it took them three centuries to make him God and then when he became God then God has to
God has to have a mother right. So can you
		
00:05:15 --> 00:05:16
			can you carry on
		
00:05:24 --> 00:05:25
			are you going to speak to
		
00:05:30 --> 00:05:32
			are you going to speak to my speaking to you now?
		
00:05:35 --> 00:05:35
			So,
		
00:05:36 --> 00:05:37
			exactly
		
00:05:40 --> 00:05:45
			Number One Number Nicean Council of Nicaea and council the Council were not canceled on a council
		
00:05:47 --> 00:05:58
			they were not they were not places where they realized suddenly that they were grandstanding made an
affirmation of what was already my question is I understand that I have no problem basic division
and
		
00:05:59 --> 00:06:04
			my my question is why did they take so long
		
00:06:06 --> 00:06:14
			to realize Oh, to even declare like like the doctrine of the Trinity was declared to be the official
doctrine of the Christian church which was Catholic
		
00:06:16 --> 00:06:17
			Am I talking to him are you
		
00:06:19 --> 00:06:19
			talking
		
00:06:22 --> 00:06:23
			when we talk we talk
		
00:06:26 --> 00:06:27
			this is not cagefighting
		
00:06:31 --> 00:06:31
			continued
		
00:06:38 --> 00:06:42
			we are very respectful century he's talking about
		
00:06:44 --> 00:06:44
			she thinks
		
00:06:48 --> 00:06:49
			she has to she has to
		
00:06:53 --> 00:06:53
			come back
		
00:06:55 --> 00:06:56
			okay, you're
		
00:06:57 --> 00:06:59
			gonna let me finish for boys? I understand.
		
00:07:02 --> 00:07:11
			On the fourth of April let's say on the fourth of April all 50 wants to eat and oh hold on a second
lo and behold Mary is actually the Mother of God
		
00:07:12 --> 00:07:39
			down to her loving took them some time these ideas No, no, that's not even it as well. Yeah,
sometimes the reason why they formulated those trees was because of division within the church.
There were different ideas that were coming to this the same way you know why we have laws now it's
not because you know, people are doing these crazy stuff we have to sometimes then put forward a
statement to say actually, this is where it needs to be done because of the vision that was going
on. So there was division and then they had to make a statement what was already held by
		
00:07:40 --> 00:07:50
			the whole reason that they did the Creed and the first time this wasn't because they just were
formulating ideas and also agree with Italian Athanasius well before these times we're holding to
these
		
00:07:51 --> 00:07:58
			yet so the apostles again as well. Okay, you jumped from the trillion Yeah, to Atlantis. Okay, what
was the correlation between the two Italian was
		
00:07:59 --> 00:08:12
			to tell him what's the first person to use it? And what's that sorry? And what to speak about the
Divinity Sorry, what did he try to tell us? Can you talk in Latin and what did he understand?
		
00:08:13 --> 00:08:25
			You use because he used it okay. So that was at the time they will understand why people held to
Jesus being gone. And the Holy Spirit they had to sort of help me read to Julian's proxy
		
00:08:26 --> 00:08:27
			Have you read it though?
		
00:08:31 --> 00:08:35
			Are you the moderate if he's THE MODERATOR We're in trouble for can you run your own business
		
00:08:40 --> 00:08:42
			this miracle speakers corner
		
00:08:43 --> 00:08:44
			speaker she
		
00:08:49 --> 00:08:50
			was the spec sheet
		
00:08:57 --> 00:09:00
			don't have to wait. You have to wait I'm talking to this gentleman.
		
00:09:03 --> 00:09:03
			Right
		
00:09:06 --> 00:09:08
			once I'm finished with him this this just gently
		
00:09:11 --> 00:09:13
			Yes, carry on please. Sorry.
		
00:09:15 --> 00:09:19
			Your point was the Tullio how you understood,
		
00:09:20 --> 00:09:30
			ready always believed Can you can you? She's not understanding my language. I'm speaking English.
Maybe you can you can explain to her in a way that she's not part of this conversation
		
00:09:32 --> 00:09:34
			is fine. But does he need your support? He says look and look at this.
		
00:09:37 --> 00:09:42
			And he's intelligent. He's very he's a very intelligent man. I know him.
		
00:09:49 --> 00:09:50
			So am I not