Zakir Naik – If God is ‘Uncreated’, then how can we feel his existence?
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The man named Ahmed is confused about Islam and believes in everything. He discusses his past as a non-M-thirsty Muslim and the theory that everything has a crucial beginning. The discussion turns to the definition of belief and the possibility of a bundle of belief being impossible. The host and another person on the call speculate on the origin of the definition of a bundle of belief.
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Yeah, hi, my name is Ahmed. I come from the glorious country of Iraq, and I'm a born Muslim. My problem is that I practice Islam when I would rather first read request question from the non Muslims. Once all the questions from non Muslims over inshallah will give you a chance. Yeah, but I'm trying my problem is, but But you said your ama that you were born Muslim, I am born Muslim. But now are you a Muslim or not? I'm agnostic. So now you have left the religion of Islam? Yeah, I'm confused. Okay, fine. If you have lived in of Islam, you can ask the question. Okay. So my question is, how come I don't have the faith that you and the other Muslims have, and some of my friends,
even though I practice Islam a lot, and I even did ombre, but I still do most of the sins that are forbidden in Islam. And I sometimes I'm lazy to do the prayer and the other subjects we have to do in Islam. I have read many books and about other religions and conspiracy theories and documentaries and such I even have seen your own videos in YouTube. And there are many questions that go on my head, about Allah and the messenger and Muslims in general. And basically the the most important question is, you said in one of your debates or questions, that Allah is the Creator, and he's uncreated. But I have realized how can the uncreated exist and if he exists, how can we notice him?
How can we see him or hear him or feel Him or know of his existence is visa, uncreated in our own dimension? or so? That's one of the questions
with the hammer said that he is a born Muslim. He comes from Iraq.
He read the Quran in the books, but he commits many sins he believes, maybe sometimes agnostic, and lazy for praying better before I answer main question,
if you do things, and if you're lazy for praying, that does not make you a non Muslim.
As long as you believe that praying further, sometimes you miss it's a sin. It's a major thing that you sometimes don't pray. But that doesn't make you a non Muslim.
If you say praying is not required,
then you're doing golf.
But if sometimes you do sin some time minus in some time major sin It is haram. It forbidden, but that does not throw you outside the fold of Islam.
There are sometimes verses of the shaitan asking you are a Muslim, but this is wrong in Islam, this is wrong. And it does deviate the person's mind. At that time, maybe your Eman may be low.
But these things should not make you consider that your non Muslim
regarding a question that I mentioned in my speech, and you're right, that Almighty God is the Creator. But he himself is uncreated.
You ask the question, how can then create it? How can we see then created?
Now it's possible?
Allah subhana wa Taala is Halleck is the Creator. And by definition, he's uncreated.
Because normally, people say that when they try and prove in logic,
that everything has a Creator,
who created the table, the government from where he got from the tree who created that resort goes back to Allah. So when many of the people try to convince any theists, they try and say that everything has a creator, and then they get trapped, when they did ask Him Who created Allah?
So if you hear my tapes, I never go that way. I asked the atheist that how did you come to know about the universe? How did you come to know about the functioning of the stars of the sun? And he says,
and goes back that the Creator so it is the vice versa? So if you know how to deal with logic, you don't trip over this problem with the atheists trap. The Muslims, not the believers, by say, Who created Allah, by definition, Allah is uncreated.
And if you ask the question, Who created Allah? If you have heard my tapes, I give the reply. That suppose a person comes and says that my brother John, yeah, I know. I saw that I heard that's funny. But I mean, how does he exist? If he's uncreated? Not that well? Yeah. between you and Allah, how did he exist me he was existing
from he doesn't have a beginning you and I have a beginning that human being so that the different breeders and Allah you can see that Allah to be like as if Allah Allah, you and me, why should you worship him? I see but have you heard of the phenomenon the big brother used by various orders and
political agenda is to control the people in such by implementing it into multiple gods and then later on it became a monotheistic religions all over the world to make it easier.
I've never heard of the Big Brother. It's not a religion. It's like a theory and idea, basically, for example,
yes. What if IDFA what does it say is that when you have a big brother, it's easier for you to live life, when you have someone watching you the whole time, understanding the whole time protecting you the whole time being with you the whole time, and you can talk to him, although he never talks to you back maybe in your dreams, do it your mind and such, it's easier for it to live, while a human who does not have a big brother, and is not easily controlled into doing so and is having complete freedom is a danger for the major ruling powers and such. What does it say? I don't understand. Big brother, maybe the Big Brother may not be there. But what does it what does it have to do with Islam
and God? What does it have to do? Because basically, Allah is watching me the whole time he wanted to say that less like a big brother. Indeed you use him for your protection. So you won't be scared. You know what I mean?
So this is the hypothesis hypothesis.
If you have heard, how do I convince
an atheist? He favored my answer that you said that you're agnostic or atheist? Yeah, so first thing I do the an atheist, I congratulate him. What? I congratulate him.
Have you on man for with you? Yeah, you congratulate them. And so for having seen your debates with the atheist? I just saw your answers on some question for you haven't seen that? No, but I've seen your debate with David Julian Campbell. And
ya know, when an atheist tells me, he does not believe in God like your theory of Big Brother. Yeah. And if you believe in that theory, I will ask you, first thing I do to the atheists, I congratulate him, you know why? Yeah. Because they think and they don't follow what their parent does and stuff like that. No, no, I congratulate him because he's not doing blind belief. The other people are doing blind belief. He is a Christian beggar father is a Christian. He's in the book of fathers and most of the Muslims are Muslim or father, the Muslim, he's thinking, he says, There is no God. He has said the first part of the Islamic shahada, Allah Allah.
The reason I congratulate him is because he has said the first part of the Islamic shahada, Islamic creed, La Ilaha The only thing I have to do with il Allah which I shall do Inshallah,
if you have heard them, I answered, an atheist become limited because he believes in science, he believes in logic, I asked him, that if an equipment is bought in front of him, which no one in the world has ever seen. And if the question is asked that who will be the first person who will be able to tell you the mechanism of this new equipment? What the answer,
of course is going to tell you the producer, the maker of the Creator, producer maker, so when we ask him questions, that how did this universe come into existence? He will talk about the Big Bang. This what we're going to talk is already mentioned the Quran 1400 years ago in Saudi Arabia chap number 21 Verse number 30 Avila mera La Cienega flew under samovar to Allah contract conflict nama do not unbeliever see that the heavens and the earth were joined together and we closed them asunder. This what you came to know 50 years back is mentioned the Quran 14 years ago who could have mentioned that? Well, in various civilizations in like 2000 or 5000 BCE, before Islam came or
Christianity itself, there was various civilizations that are good in astronomy and they know more about our solar system than we do now. Sadly, rather whether your knowledge of sciences little not in depth, I do agree there are certain things which are known as hypothesis. For example, for example,
we came to know we were proved that the Earth was spherical in 1577. I know that in sixth century BC,
they will I told you this we believe that the Earth was spherical. But the same Pythagoras who believed the Earth was spherical, also believed that the Earth was the center of the universe, which is wrong. You show me one civilization will believe 100 person what the Quran has mentioned. I challenge you. What'd you say? For Do you mean to say there was a person who said okay, this civilization, or 200 thing, these two things are right, or 100 thing, the five things are right out of this 100 And pick 10 Two who can do that? No one besides the Creator.
Even if you know that there were 10 different civilizations, hundreds of civilizations, there is not a single civilization that you know in the past, which knew 100% of time what we know today.
So where is your logic? Where is your theory? I
Do know that certain things are hypothesis which will prove later on, but there is not a single civilization which knows everything or dimensioned the Quran so the answer goes back to the original question who could have collected this in the Quran? Someone 1400 years back could he do and okay out of these under thing these three right? Are these under the these two are right out of this? It's not possible, mathematically impossible.
Well, you never gave the idea of extraterrestrials or so. I mean Knowledge is power. And rather I'm asking a simple question. We are not coming to our debate. Yeah, I'm asking you a question. Point out a single civilization you asked me something else. Yeah, we are not here to discuss we can come in the room and discuss. You ask a question. I'm giving you the answer. You gave about old civilization. I told you right? But out of 103 98 they were wrong. So I'm asking you who could have mentioned this in the Quran? You're talking something is now? Yeah, well, I'm asking a simple question two plus two equals how much you are saying I'm telling you three multiplied by three is
how much I'm asking a name you're telling that Where do you live? Yeah, I'm asking a simple question Name me a single civilization which have everything What about mentioned in the Quran?
Do you know if any are not yes or no? Well, not everything of course. Even not 10% why Babylon knows of some most of the planets and such planet is not only the mentioned in the Quran, there are mentioned the Quran to say what 1000 Things are mentioned in the Quran, then person would be equal to 100 things did Babylonian civilization knew about 100 We mentioned the Quran? No, because they knew five or six things
in percentage wise very small source who can be the author of the Quran besides the Creator to know what is right what is wrong. Today science has established the hypothesis mentioned by Babylonian so many centuries back is today proven? So these are hypotheses in the past, which out of them many have been rejected, some have been accepted. So to collect all which is 100%. Correct has to be from the creator and no one is hope that answers the question.