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Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil alameen wa salatu salam ala Sayyidina Muhammad wa
ala alihi wa sahbihi Marburg.
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So today inshallah Tada, we will move on from the Battle of word we have finished the Battle of word
in our last few sessions and move on to the next two major incidents, both of which were very sad
they caused the profitsystem a lot of grief and a lot of personal loss. Because they both involved
massacres, they both involved, large groups of the Sahaba being brutally killed. And these are
called the incident of Ramayana, and the incident of arogya, bitter Maradona and arogya. So what
exactly happened?
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It appears that the apparent, let's say, loss of offroader, this the Muslims were not the clear
victors. It actually made some of the Bedouin tribes around Medina greedy, that it appeared that now
they, they'll be able to attack Medina. And remember that Bedouins by and large, they would earn
their income by rates, that's the primary source of income is by rating and by simply stealing this
was the way of the desert. And also there also appears to have been now the beginnings of religious
animosity. We've seen this a little bit at Ohio, and now it's going to go more and more where it is
becoming a war against Islam and sugar, whereas before it was a war, basically, between the Muslims
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and Porush. Now it is becoming into an all out war. And a number of small skirmishes took place,
some of which don't really have much significance of them is a very small skirmish. It didn't have
any significance. Now, it will have later on that the Muslims attacked a small tribe of the
abundance I said, and their leader was told they had sad, untold I had sad was one of those who
declared himself to be a false prophet. After the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam passed away,
he's one of those 30 that does. So this loss basically was one of the main incentives that he's
wanting to get his revenge. So after the process and passed away today had said he was one of those
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who later proclaimed prophet hood. But this is a small incident, the process of sent 250 people and
he was the Conqueror over them, but it basically caused so they had to flip and become very angry.
And he had this animosity until he announced his prophethood. The main two stories, as we said, are
arogya and morona. And let us begin with arogya. And some say otra Jia and some say arogya. And it
is called arogya. Because that is the name of the well around which the massacre took place. And
morona is the name of the other world. They're both wells or Roger and my owner, they're both wells.
And what happened was the beginnings of our Roger actually go back a little bit we need to go back a
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little bit. The tribe of who they which was one of the large Bedouin tribes and the North had
started planning an attack on Medina and their chieftain Abdullah bin own as a Jew honey Abdullah
have been known as a Jew honey, the chieftain of the who they
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Sorry, excuse me, although this is his hobby, my mistake, hardly diminished. soufiane alhuda Lee,
the chieftain or the who they have delivered races, the Sahabi scratch that hot didn't even have to
find out who that is the chieftain of the who they he began gathering a small army to surprise
attack Medina and the profitsystem then decided to preemptively attack him and execute him. So
that's the whole plan basically, is dismissed. So he, he chose Abdullah Avenue De Soto honey, he's
the Sahabi. He chose Abdullah Avenue and so Giovanni to basically hunt down harder the missile fan
and get rid of him. So that's no longer can he gather an army. So this was going to be a one man
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show, you just go and you cut off the head. This is not a large expedition. This is a very dangerous
expedition is a one man show you go you get rid of this guy so that there is no army going to
attack. And so he said, you will find him in the valley of Atlanta. Allah told him you will find him
in the valley of Atlanta right now go and you will meet him there. Few guards, you know, it's a good
time. Now is the time to strike allies the widow told him and so he said, O Messenger of Allah, what
does he look like? I've never seen him know the process of them and also never seen him. The process
had never seen him. So he said, when you see him, you shall feel more terrified than you've ever
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been at anybody's appearance. So this is like, you can imagine the Bedouin typical chieftain of a
veteran who has no
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sense of hygiene, no sense of anything. He's living a very rough, very crude life. And he looks the
part of a of an evil if you like, you know better when chieftain right. So he said when you see him,
you will feel terrified. That is his sign. Now the process of had not seen him either. But obviously
God had told him of this. And so he said, I only took my sword because this is a a top secret
mission, if you like, he's not going to take an army, I only took my sword, and I headed towards the
Valley of Atlanta. And he said, When I saw him in the distance, and he's quoting firsthand, I had
never been as terrified of anybody shackle as this man's. Like he looks like a devil. He looks evil.
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And you know, there are people like this. No, he looks evil, just looking at him. So he said, sada
Allahu Allah, Sulu, Elena message or spoken the truth that this is the real, you know, perception
that happened. And then an interesting thing happened. He said that he's seeing him far away in the
distance. And it's time it doesn't say for whatsoever assume exhaustive, but it doesn't say what. So
which book did you read to him?
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In his houses? Okay, Jay, I did not see the hood in the book that I read. Okay. So we've been as
Huck says before, but then why didn't he do German and if that is the case, okay. So he says he saw
him in the distance. And because he was worried that the time would basically go away. He prayed as
he was walking
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to the chieftain. And he just made gestures with his head, oma of bureaucracy just made gestures
with his head.
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And He therefore prayed the first time in Islamic history, the first time ever,
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a type of solid that was later called one version of salata, Whorf, this is one version, so that the
hope has many versions, right? This is one version of Serato hope, where if you cannot even stop and
face the table and say Allahu Akbar, you just pray as you are. As he's walking, he's praying. And
this is the first time ever in Islamic history that this Salah had ever been prayed. So he made it,
he had his we're going to come back to this. And he walked all the way there. And then he got close
to heartedness, Sophia, and he found out is this the person? Are you actually gathering an army? Let
me also join your army. So basically, he's making sure this is the guy, he gives the impression that
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you don't have anything to be worried about. And then when the time was right, how long he got rid
of him. So this was a time when his people were not around him. He was basically alone in the valley
with a few people. And that's exactly what the prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam knew that at this
time is his vulnerability time. So Abdullah menulis, that immediately came back. And as soon as the
process of them saw him, he said, may your face be successful, meaning it's clear, you will have
come back successful. And he made draft for him and he gifted him a staff. He gifted him a staff.
And he said, This shall be the sign between me and you on Yom Okayama there should be assigned
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between me and your email cam, meaning you're going to basically get some privilege or something.
And so Abdullah bin Oh, nice. He forever always had this stuff with him in peace and in war in
battle and in the house, he never, ever let this stuff out of his sight. And when he died, he
commanded that he gave the will see that the staff be buried with Him in His orbit. Now, obviously
from this incident, where it's going to lead to arogya what's going to happen is going to lead to
this incident we learn two things, obviously goes without saying the miracle of the process and by
describing him and by telling where he is, although this is clear that Allah subhana wa tada
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informed the Prophet system of this, and also that he chose the right person for the job that he
chose the right person Abdullah video nice was the right person to basically go in in this in this
way. And he managed to ingratiate himself, he managed to make himself feel comfortable, and then
immediately got rid of him. Another interesting thing that we learned from this incident is that the
Sahaba made each they had about 50, even during the lifetime of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa
sallam.
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So even during the lifetime of the Prophet, so, some he they made he had, and this is a clear
evidence that and this is well known that there are a number of Sahaba they would make he had, and
this shows us the legal permissibility of making he had even when the process was alive, he had was
done. And when he would hear of the HD head, sometimes he would affirm it, and sometimes he would
fine tune it or change it. So for example, it just said that I might have been yesterday when he
felt Juniper and the desert and he did not have any water. What did he do? He made he had them
chaos. And he said, Well, if we do to move forward, I guess we're gonna have to do to move forward
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as well. So he took all of his clothes off the his omona the desert and he rolled around in the sand
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here
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Hold on in the sand. And then he came back and he told the professor cinnamon the process and
laughed and said, all you needed to do was this and he showed him how to do to him. But what is the
show, which they had was done?
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He had was done and this shows us the legal permissibility of extrapolating what we know of the
Quran and Sunnah to cater to a situation that the owner does not tell us about, right, this is
college debt, right? And therefore this shows us the basis of our religion being applicable and all
times in place through the medium of HDL. Now, this occurred in moharram of the fourth year of the
Hydra. Okay, so Muharram of the fourth year of the Hydra, basically, a few months after or so what
happened, they've just killed the chieftain. So what did they do, the tribe of who they resorted to
a very dirty tactic, a very evil tactic. In order to get revenge. They contacted to other tribes, or
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overall, an aura robot and Cora, and they paid them some money to set up a trap. But this is now a
blatant, if you like, tactic to get the Muslims to kill them to set up a trap. And it involves a
simple plot. And that plot was you guys pretend to accept Islam, go to Medina, pretend to be
Muslims, and then beg the Prophet system to send you teachers the most qualified to come back and
teach you the religion because they knew that the Sahaba love to go and teach and that the process
of would send teachers or art teachers, solid teachers, to the people. And so robot and Cora The
both of them sent their delegations. And they insisted to get as many of the teachers at the process
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of could afford to send. And so between seven and 10, most likely 10 people, they volunteered for
this task under the leadership of Alison Eben Sabbath, Alison Yvan Sabbath. And when they got to the
well of arogya This is why it is called the incident of our JIRA when they got to the world of
arogya 100 warriors ambush them, they're only seven or 10 people 100 people now surround them. And
they realize this is a trap. They realize this was a setup, this was not an actual an actual,
sincere conversion. And when they saw the 100 people coming in the distance, they managed to take
shelter in a small hill, the magic shelter and the top of the hill. And they pulled out their bows
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and arrows because bows and arrows is what you can use for for distance. And none of these guys
wants to lose their lives, right? bows and arrows. They don't want to lose their lives by coming up.
But in the end, when you have 100 people surrounded by 10 eventually what is going to happen now,
this the plot thickens in that their leader ausimm their leader, awesome. He had
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killed in, in, in in the Battle of God had killed the husband of a certain lady by the name of
Sudan. Okay, Sudan have been decided. So Salafi, she's obviously a pagan, Salafi had promised her
life
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that she is going to drink wine from the skull of
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awesome
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that I am not going to die until I drink wine from the skull of acid. And in her vengeance, she had
said anybody who brings me the skull of Alison 100, camels, 100 camels, anybody who brings me the
skull of Allison 100 camels. And Allison knows that the tribe has some personal animosity as well
because of this. And so he made he cried out and admitted to Allah subhana wa Tada. And
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he said, I'm not going to surrender to them because I know what they're going to do to my body. I am
not going to surrender. I'm going to fight to the death. And Oh Allah inform our Prophet sallallahu
alayhi wa sallam about us that we were sincere, that we didn't die. cowards. We were sincere, inform
our prophets wisdom about us. And he said, Oh, Allah, as I protected your religion in the daytime,
now protect my body at night, meaning as I'm fighting now, in the daytime, when night falls, protect
my body. Right? So he's saying, Oh, well law as I protected your religion, by dying for your cause
by being sincere. Now, Oh Allah, it's your responsibility to protect my body. I don't want my skull
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to be used as a wind casket for this lady, and he fought with his bows and arrows until he ran out
of bows. And then he fought with his spear until the spear broke, and then he fought with his sword
onto the sword became dull. He fought a brave battle, and eventually obviously, what's going to
happen when you're surrounded by 10 to one, eventually he died and when he died after the battle is
over,
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Want to come back to the battle after the battle was over? Everybody rushed to get his body number
one body they want is his. And all of a sudden, out of nowhere, a swarm of wasps came. a swarm of
wasps came, and they would stink. Everybody just attack their face anybody who came close. So they
said, What do we do? So they said, Okay, wait, wasps don't hang around at night, just waiting night
and then we'll get the body at night. And so they waited until dusk until the sun fell until the
sunset, and then Subhanallah out of nowhere. A river just came out of nowhere, and it had not
rained, and there was no river over there. And his body was on top of a hill. Still, out of nowhere,
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a river just came gushing out and it went straight to his body, picked his body up and carried it
off into the distance. And nobody knows to this day where he is buried. Allah subhanho wa Taala took
care of his burial. Allah azza wa jal took care of his burial. So this is awesome. The leader he
died a Shaheed back to the battle. So they killed we don't we don't know whether there are seven or
10 people total. But they killed everybody down to the last three. So if they were 10, they killed
seven. So they killed everybody down to the last three and the last three and are surrounded by this
100 and they said, Okay, look, just surrender now. Okay, there's no point moving on, just surrender.
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Now, why were they interested in surrendering? Because they're not going to get any money for a dead
body other than Allison's body, they will get money for a living body. They will get ransom, they
will get they can sell it to the corporation. And that's exactly what they did. Right? So they
promised they said, If you surrender, we'll protect you will you know, nothing's gonna happen to
you. But this is lying. But of course, at the time, the three Sahaba don't know this. So they
promised them. Don't worry, as long as you surrender helaas Okay, we won. We promised you a man. We
give you safety if you surrender. And the three of them decided to surrender at that time, when
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seven had died, they decided to surrender. And they were obeyed. And Zaid and Abdullah Habib and
Zayed and Abdullah had been thought of. So the three of them came down from the hill. And
immediately they jumped on them and tied them up like animals. And Abdullah said, this is the first
sign of treachery, they didn't mean to give us security, they tied us up and they put us onto a
stick just like an animal they're going to do like this is the first sign of treachery. And so he
refused to become a prisoner of war. He refused to walk in March, he refused every commandment, and
so they just killed him on the side of the road. He just would not budge. So they just killed him
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right then and there. As for the answer, this is Abdullah Tada. He's gone. So Dave and Dave are
left. As for the other two, they found out who wanted to purchase them, and Kobe was purchased by
the tribe of Bernal Harris, because he had killed one of the binaries in the train the Battle of
brother and Zaid had been one of those who had attacked omiya Eben highlife, the master of Bilaal.
Remember the story of Bilal that one Bilal said, will lie manna, Joe to energy, I am not going to
live this guy lives. And he was surrounded by a group. So Zaid was one of those who surrounded
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me. Yeah. All right. So he's one of those who then killed omega omega did not die by one person who
was a group that came so zayde was one of them. So soft one, even omega in Makkah, purchased him
from this Bedouin tribe for a large sum of money in order to kill him for having killed or having
been one of the people who killed his father. And so the both of them became prisoners just to be
executed in a short period of time. The both of them have a band aid, and the both of them are many
stories are mentioned about them. As for Habib, he remained a prisoner amongst them amongst the
bundle had it until they announced that they would kill him. And so he asked for a shower to take a
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clean and to take a listen. And he asked for a razor to get rid of his hair, the pubic hair and
whatnot to basically meet Allah subhanho wa Taala clean, right? And so they allowed him this, and
they gave him a bath, they allowed him to take a bath, he gave him a razor. And as you were sitting
there with the razor in his hand, one of the babies crawled up to him, and came right up to him. And
the mother once you saw from the distance that my baby is now with him she cried out in fear that oh
my god, no, he's gonna die. And he might kill my baby as retaliation before he leaves. And so Whoa,
babe said are you scared that I will kill this child will lie I will never do something like this.
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Well, I will never do something like this. And the same mother later on said I have never seen any
prisoner more noble than him in his lap and his manners and I saw him tie
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up in his chains, eating from a bunch of grapes, and will lie he there was no bunch of grapes in
Makkah at the time. I saw him eating from bunches of grapes out of nowhere, because they were
starving him. Obviously, they weren't treating him, you know, with the Geneva Conventions, right? So
he was eating out of grapes, and there were no grapes and all of maca. And he there he is eating out
of grapes. And it was sustenance that Allah subhana wa Taala had given him. And when they brought
him on to be killed, he said, allow me to pray to rocket, and he prayed to God. And then when he
finished, he said, Were it not for the fact that you'd think that I'm being cowardly, I would have
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prayed a lot longer to DACA. But I don't want you to think that I'm scared of that. So that's why it
was so short. And hold, he was the first one who started the sooner of the one that is to be
executed praying to look at.
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Right, and this is also wish to hide from the Sahaba that later on was accepted. Right? He was the
one who started the sooner that any Muslim who is going to be executed by any for whatever reason,
it is soon enough for them to pray to DACA. And so you can say there is the hate of execution.
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Right? There's the hate of execution that may Allah xojo save me and you from ever having to offer
that. But it is soon in our religion, that and this is assuming that that obviously the process is
approved in his lifetime, that he obeyed, prayed in this manner. As far as aid, of course, he is
back with Abu sufian. And he's back with Safari with omega, right. And so he's with the leaders of
the orange because omega is one of their leaders. So as far as aid, they really made a big festival
out of killing him, the old people of Makkah, they took a day off, to torture him and to kill him.
This is a day of happiness now that they're killing one of the Muslims, right? And
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Abu sufian and this is the famous incident that all of you know, this is when it happens. Now, the
famous story back and forth and the famous response that everybody knows every child knows what
soufiane said, when he was tied up and when he's about to be lanced, you know to death was to be
answered in front of everybody he asks him that owner Shido cola I asked you by Allah tell me the
honest truth. Don't you wish right now that Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam was in your place, and you
are with your family and children? And he gave that honest response that he has nothing to lose or
win by lying or you know, he has nothing he's gonna die a lot, right? But he said with that, imagine
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that only a Muslim can have that he said, Well law he, I would rather die like this than that the
prophets are seldom get a thorn prick right now where he's sitting. I would rather die like this to
save him from a thorn prick, much less BB in my place. And that will soufiane said that I have never
seen any leader that is more beloved to his people, then well hammers or seldom is with his
companions. No leader is more beloved to his people than the Sahaba respect the Prophet sallallahu
sallam. And he's not the only one to say this right? Every single non Muslim who witnessed the
respect that the Sahaba gave to the Prophet system, they themselves narrated and this is not from
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the Sahaba, the Sahaba did not narrate themselves. Rather, we learned this from the non Muslim. At
the time, obviously, it was found later became a Muslim, about how much respect they gave to the
Prophet salallahu alayhi wasallam. From this incident, we learned many things.
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of them is that in such situations, between any what was happening in arogya, right now, should you
surrender should you fight on we see that permissibility has been given for both permissibility has
been given for for both. And whichever one a person chooses shala, there is precedent in that. And
it depends on the individual circumstance, which one is more better and honorable, and all of them
are measured, all of them are rewarded for what they have done. Also, we learned here from our
beloved methodic who refuse to budge and he knew he was gonna die. We learned here an interesting
point, it is not considered suicide, to do something that you know, will cause your death as long as
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it is at the hands of somebody else.
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Because he knows, I mean, there's no question, you know, you're being told to march and you're not
going to march, what are they going to do? They're not going to let you ride the camel and they're
going to walk obviously, right? He knows what's going to happen. So this is not considered suicide
because he didn't do it himself. They're doing it and he's not going to be tortured there might as
well be tortured here and get it over with right. And so this also shows us that it is not
considered suicide. If the enemy if you do something knowing the enemy is going to kill you. And we
have lots of incidents in the battles of the Sahaba that they acted. Some can save bravely and
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others that are non Muslims was a foolishly but we believe bravely that they wanted to do something
that many people would not do if they didn't have a man sometimes they lost in in this world they
became shade in the next and sometimes
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They won in that particular tactic. Another thing that we see, and this is something we firmly
believe in as well, the concept of Karl Marx, the concept of karma. And karma means a mini miracle.
karamat is something that is given to the profit nonprofits, profits are given more other than
profits are given carmax and keramat are things that Allah blesses the believers of a prophet with.
And we see many comets in the Sierra, and here are two right now, that the body of awesome how it
was protected right by the wasps, and then by just out of nowhere, a river comes literally out of
nowhere. And then it actually goes to the top of the hill, can you imagine, right, it just goes to
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the top and it takes the body away. This is a cut Alma. And to this day, nobody knows where he is
buried. And also, of course, whole vape and food appearing out of nowhere.
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Obviously, this is another Corolla, and I've given many,
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many times in this semester, I've spoken about the difference between mortgages, and kurama. And
I've spoken about this multiple times here. And we did this as well, when we talked when we did to
the US, as well, we did as well, what is the difference between this and that, so no need to repeat
over here. Also, we see over here, the
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love that the product that the Sahaba had, for not just the process of obviously, but even for
following the sooner up until the time of their death, like he's about to die. What does he want to
do? Take a hosel and purify himself have a clean body panel, look at where his mind is now. Right?
He's not worried about We'll see. And my children know he knows is going to be the law. Let me meet
a law in a pure state. Let me do so let me clean my body. So look at the concern they have for the
son of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. And of course as for the love for the process, and
we already see hope he was saying I'd rather you know, I'd rather die this death that even a thorn
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prick him. And we know he means it because he has nothing to gain right now. Right? He's He's saying
he will die rather than a thorn pricking him. This is the height of love. We also see over here, as
I said, the son of praying to God before execution. And then one last point before we move on that
treachery and killing innocence. And killing children and women is never something that our religion
allows that this man is about to die, and he's gonna die anyway. Many people would say, you know
what, let me just get rid of as much of them as I can. Right. And this was the innocent child, that
he could have taken the razor and harm the child or worse than that, but he was shocked when the
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mother screamed, and he couldn't believe that the mother would think that I would do this. So he's
asking a rhetorical question, do you think that I'm going to harm this job? It's as if he's
insulted, even though he's the prisoner, and he's going to be executed? He feels insulted that Do
you really think I'm going to harm this innocent child? Now I will lie, I would never do anything
like that. Right? He's consoling the mother, that Calm down, he's the one going to be killed. This
is what Eamon brings about. And this clearly shows us that the killing of innocence, and especially
women and children, as we know, our study is very explicit and clear about to this point. Now, the
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second incident that occurred, and what made this especially traumatic was the two incidents
occurred at the same time, so much so that according to one report, our Profit System got the news
of both of them on the same night. And this is why this was doubly traumatic for him. Right. So it's
happening in the same timeframe. And that is a tragedy that, in terms of quantity is much worse than
arogya. And that is the wealth of marijuana, beer, marijuana, the world of marijuana. And this was
one of the worst massacres to occur in the theater of the Prophet sallallahu ala who was send them a
cold blooded massacre, that is almost actually it is unparalleled in this era of a massacre like
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this, it is unparalleled in this era. And the story goes as follows with regards to the bit about
the bit of morona. Around this time, one of the famous chieftains of nudged came down to Medina. And
nudged as you know, is northern Arabia. And now it has a whole bunch of tribes that we are not that
familiar with hearing because again, it is different. We're used to hearing the tribes around Mecca
and Medina. This is the Hejaz nudged, has a whole other group. And they also have very different
they were known for many things and of the things they were known for. They are not as civilized as
the Hijazi is. This was the perception that was given that there are people of the Bedouin. There
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are people that are not of the cities. This was the perception at the time of the people of Nigeria,
and one of the chieftains have nudged by the name of Abu Bara Ahmed bin Malik, we'll call him old
Bara. Bara came to Medina and he stayed for a while and he was very impressed with Islam.
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profitsystem tried his best to cause him to convert. But he was hesitant. So he was thinking about
it. But he had made up his mind, he was hesitant. So he said, Oh, Mohammed Muslim, if only you were
to send a group of your companions to the people have nudged and called them to this matter, I'm
pretty sure that a lot of them would respond to your call.
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So send us your people, and we will go and spread your message. So
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I will borrow
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guaranteed protection for you in the nudge to region. So it's as if you think I'll open up the doors
for Muslims to give our right he didn't accept. But he is saying You have my word. And he was an
honest man, as we'll see, like later on, we'll come back to this that he was not like, he gave a
genuine word that from my side, You have my word as one of the main chieftains and how does the
system work back then that everybody who's allied with a tribe, if one of the tribes gives
protection, all of the Allies automatically must give protection, this is the way it works back
then, this will be called killer fat or high leaf, right? That your head if you have a treaty, so x
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and y have a treaty, if x extends protection to z, y also has to protect z. This is the way it
worked back then. And it is something that is still common in many places around the world, this
type of system. So he is saying that I have an alliance with all of the people have nudged and my
protection should be good enough because I am a senior chieftain. And he did not realize at the time
that one of the other chieftains hated Islam so much that he was willing to invoke a civil war,
basically. And we're gonna get back to this later on the repercussions. But for now, we're
interested in what exactly happened with the marijuana. And so he is saying, send us your best
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preachers, and I will guarantee them safety in nudge. Now, this is a big news. Why is it big news,
because the province of nudged is actually bigger than the province of ages.
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And the potential of converts,
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the number of Congress that might come about, it will make the entire Islamic dynamics change. And
so the Profit System chooses 70 of the best of the Hurrah and the preachers and the draft because
the potential is too much. And the goal is that the 70 will disperse out that they're going to go
and basically give that one nudge because now the green light has been given the visa has been
granted go and preach. And he chooses the majority of them from Allah so far.
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Because these are the cream of the crop and an asymptomatic and symptomatic his uncle went under
semantik his uncle went and he became an associate and NSA nomadic himself. Nerys, these people.
They were known for their Koran. They were known for their to head jute. They were known for filling
up the buckets of the unsought at night. They would go and fill the buckets up and then go back to
sleep in the masjid. You understand there's buckets that you're going to go fill the next day, so
they will do it for them. Even if they don't even have a house. They will do it for them. These are
the people over the sofa. Right? And no doubt Allah chooses them for Shahada as well it's a it's a
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two way street, right? That it was a loss for the Muslims It was a victory for them a lot chooses
the best of them for Shahada. So
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these were the people over the sofa that they're involved in charity in the day and a bother at
night and Quran and Vicar so the process of them chose submarine and that is a huge number for the
time even for our time. 70 is a lot for the small city of Medina, we just said there were 700 people
that fought right. Imagine if we had 700 you're sending 10% of your men.
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And that's how much went because as I said this is the province of Niger is almost double the size
of Hejaz. And the potential is simply too much now is the golden opportunity. And the Prophet system
sensed truth from our Buddha and he was telling the truth, right? I will but I was not like that. I
give you my word. And as we said, he assumed that the other chieftains would respect his word, but
they didn't respect his words. So what happened
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when the 70 of them got to the world of marijuana, this is the bit of marijuana. When they got to
work the world of marijuana. They sent a letter
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to how long it been mill hand through heroin minimal hand to American to fail. how long they will
hand is the Sahabi they sent a letter through how long they've been hand 202 feet now I'm going to
fail is the
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chieftain of one of the local tribes of the region, and even to fail, was one of those arrogant
Bedouin chieftains who only wanted to accept Islam if he saw some good in it. And it is said that he
had attempted to negotiate with the prophets of Salaam, either directly or indirectly had attempted
to negotiate a condition for accepting Islam. He had told the Prophet says, I will accept Islam,
either. If you take charge of the cities, and you leave all of the Bedouin lands to me, half half
actually is not going to be half half because the cities are a small percentage, the veteran lands
are much more or if you're not willing to do that, Mashallah, he's been reasonable. If you're not
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willing to do that, then you make me your chieftain after you.
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After you die, I'm going to take over. Okay, so this was his condition to accept Islam. Now, what do
you think? Obviously, we don't have any need for such people. Right. And so the obviously the
process of them refused to accept these conditions. So this only made him more arrogant. Now, one,
how long the mid hand came to Ahmed interfaith, and he had with him the lecture and the lecture was
basically hospitality. We're here for a while we're just going to go on and inviting you to Islam is
basically generic, you know, you know, information that we are here. Now, everybody knows that the
Muslims have been given protection. When Ahmed had been to fail, heard that these Sahaba had come
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from Medina, he made a motion to one of his henchmen
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to kill this guy. Now, this is like double or triple, if you like, sin upon sin, multiple sense.
Firstly,
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he is a messenger. And messengers by unanimous conventions of the world are never harmed. This is,
you know, an envoy. You know, as we know, to this day, ambassadors are not harmed. Secondly, even if
he weren't a messenger, he has protection from a more senior shift. And it is not his duty and duty
to interfere with that treaty. And in fact, in one book, it even says that the one who gave the
initial abode Bara was, in fact, one of the uncle's of Army, which is not too distant imagine
because they're all senior chieftain, so he's a distant uncle or direct uncle, which would make
sense as well. So not only is none of his business to get involved in the amount or the safety of
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another person, he knows that this is breaking an agreement that he doesn't have the right to break.
And then the third treachery was that he actually did it surreptitiously. He did it secretly, that
he made that motion, they must have their codes or whatnot, right? There, they must have their red
phones or whatever it is, you know, or that secret button that they have an artist whatever it might
be, they have their ways. He gives the motion that this guy has to be killed, right? And
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even man had had no clue because how is he going to know the motion. And so as he's standing,
basically waiting for the audience to be granted to him from behind, one of the Bedouins comes
running with a spear. And if he thrusts it in between his shoulder blades, and it comes right out in
front of him, and as soon as he sees this, the first thing on his mind it blurts out, and what does
he say? First tore up and
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basically, I won. I'm a Shaheed heat.
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Right? Yeah, the first thing that comes to his mind because that's what happens at the time, that he
sees it, his door is still in his body. So what comes to his mind that I won? 100 and I won, meaning
I mushahid right. So this means this was on his mind he's making dua to Allah subhanho wa Taala. He
wants to die Shaheed He's so excited that he sees his Shahada, he actually cries out that foods do I
want water bill Kava by the Lord of the Kava. And those were his last words, because that's it, he
died. And it is said that one of the people who was there when he heard this phrase, it caused him
to go asking the other Muslims that asking other people, and eventually he accepted Islam because of
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this one phrase. Who's to? What about Kava? Like, who's going to win when you die? What type of
religion is this that you're happy when the spear is being thrust in and you're crying out for joy?
Foos, doorbell cab, right. And so this actually led to the Islam of one of them. So I'm willing to
to fail, I'm unable to find he knew he's in trouble now. He's killed a messenger. And there are 70
people still there, and he needs to do something. So what does he do? He sends out messages to any
tribe that is willing to now join forces with him and to kill all 70 of them.
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Because one messenger is not going to be enough now, you're actually going to make things worse by
now, the 60 or 79, or 60 are still there. So let's get rid of all of them. How are you going to do
one, let's do all of it. So he reached out to other tribes, quite a number of them refused because
they knew that I will borrow had given protection. And so eventually, this is going to lead to
another clash, which we'll come to later on. For now, he's not even thinking two steps ahead. He
just wants to kill all of these 17. So finally, three of the sub tribes, they agreed. I'll see ya.
And that one, I'll see ya. And the quad three tribes, they agreed to join forces with Amityville to
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fail, and then attack the 70 admitted America, okay, the rest of them refused. All of the other
tribes of the next day refused because of the protection of our border. And they said, No, that's
not we're not going to get involved. So they marched a bit of our owner, and they surrounded all 70
of them. We don't know the exact quantity, but at least around four or 500. Because of all of the
the four tribes coming together, you have millions of registrar's and then you have the other three
tribes as well, around four or 500 have surrounded these 70. And eventually, the Muslims, they tried
to defend themselves but they hadn't come for a battle. They hadn't come with weapons and armor.
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They hadn't come, you know, armed to the hilt. They were coming as preachers, they were coming as
dropped. And eventually, each and every one of them were killed except for three people out of the
70 except for three people asked for one of them, cabins, eight cabins they they wounded him and he
fell down. And as the bodies continued to collapse on him, so he remained wounded, semi unconscious,
and the bodies piled up on him. So they didn't even know there was a person under all of this pile
of bodies. And that was gab, Yvan, Zaid and cabeza we'll come back to his story. He dies, two years
later in the Battle of conduct, he will die Shaheed in the Battle of hunter gatherers, he remember
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his name, we're going to come back to his story. As for the other two, one of them is Ahmed ibn
omega. And the other is our move in Mohammed Ahmed and move it. And the two of them had gone for an
errand maybe to get some water maybe for some other issue, they had gone for a few hours for
something to camp had sent them. And as they came back, they saw the vultures in the air circling in
front of where the Sahaba had camped. And they said, something is wrong. Obviously, you're not going
to have all the bullet vultures coming, you know, unless there's a feast to be had this, they said
all of these and they said something is wrong. What should we do? So I'll move it and he was an
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unsightly, and ama was in 101, did
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an AMA began discussing said what do you think we should do?
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Clearly, there's danger, we don't know what's happening. Should we walk in? And then basically,
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kill ourselves as well? Or should we, you know, go back to the Prophet system. So Ahmed says, I
think we should go back to the Prophet so setup, in order to tell him that some disaster has
happened, some calamity has happened. Clearly, the Sahaba had been killed, the two of us are alive.
Let's go back and get reinforcements and tell the profits of some what happened. So amber says,
Let's go, let's go back and move to the ansaldi says, As for me, I will not give up being in the
place where my companions have been killed. They were lucky enough to get Shahada, I'm not going to
give that up and just walk away from that position. And neither do I want. And neither do I want
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other men telling about my story, meaning, I'm not going to be a messenger that lives to tell their
story. While they died, I'm not just going to be the one who talks about them. I'm not just going to
be the
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kasasa and the storyteller, that I'm going to go and tell their stories while they got the actual
benefit of getting Shahada or more to them. So he in fact, encouraged them to come back with him.
And so the both of them and Moon did an AMA they both went and they walked in back into now the
massacre is done now. It's they they must have gone for a few hours and master has been done. And so
the both of them were caught and they were both about to be killed, eventually minted was in fact
killed because that was his Nia he wasn't in fact killed. And for some reason,
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he was allowed to go back It is said that I'm able to find the chieftain this evil chieftain, it is
said that either he wanted a messenger to go back, or he said that I have to free a slave anyway, so
I'll just choose you to free the point being Allah willed that Subhanallah the same one who said
perhaps we should go back. I'll allow him to go back and the one who said
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Want to become a Shaheed Allah azza wa jal made him Shaheed because you get your near what you want,
you will get it. Right, neither was a coward, because eventually eventually they both walked in. But
the one of them wanted Shahada. And Allah gave it to him. And the other one was eager to go back.
And Allah gave him that as well. And so he went back and this is the one that on the way back, this
is now on the way back here, he encountered a small incident, which also has some morals and
benefits, that on his way back to Medina, he met two people from the tribe of an interfaith walking
back towards I'm going to fade from Medina. So he's going to Medina, they're walking back down. But
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right now, these two have no idea what's going on over there, because they have just come from the
Prophet system, and they're going back. And apparently, the both of them had sought protection from
the Profit System, and the processor had given it to them.
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But Ammar did not know that. And from his perspective, these are two tribesmen from the tribe that
has just killed all 70 of my companions. And I don't know what they're gonna do. So he tricked them
for a while calm them down, basically didn't tell them his real identity. When they went to sleep,
he got rid of the boat, they killed both of them. He killed the both of them. And then he discovered
in their possessions, a letter of protection from the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam. Because he
didn't know any better, he thought these are people from the tribe of amateur mental fate. I mean,
put yourself in his shoes now. It's either him or them. And so he felt extremely bad. He went back
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and he he was the one who brought the terrible news of the Prophet sallallahu said to the Prophet
sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. And as we said, I'll walk the dimensions that are Roger beer and beer
morona. They both were received on the same later on the same night, the profitsystem received the
news on the both of them. So can you imagine at Sahaba both of them, both groups of them have
suffered miserably. They have been literally tortured and massacred to death. And these are all
people you know, they're all people that the process of them chose. They're all people that were
living amongst them living in sofa, right, look at the personal ties, you know, how the process of
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them considered the people of the sofa. And the Profit System was greatly grieved. And he prayed
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every single seller, federal immigration, five Salawat he did a special note for all of the shuhada
for one month, and made a special route in every single seller for one month. And he prayed for the
Shahada. And he asked Allah azza wa jal to take care of, meaning take care of meaning to punish the
Kwan and roll and the bone hoolahan which is the umbrella to fill stripe and the alsea. He asked
Allah azza wa jal to take care of all four of them means to get rid of them or to punish them. And
in fact, this is one of those incidents as well, that Allah azza wa jal revealed many verses in the
Quran. That for wisdom known to him, he then
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abrogated
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was called he abrogated those verses, and we still have
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remnants of those verses.
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That who will go and tell Manya blueway Juana who is going to go and tell our brothers that we are
safe. And Allah subhana wa tada told the prophets Allah said I'm about to them, and verses were
revealed that were recited at this time. And this is in Bahati and Muslim, that they were recited at
this time. And then Allah subhana wa tada abrogated those verses for wisdom known to him.
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Now, a number of benefits to derive from the incident of marijuana.
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And even from a project put together with them is that we can say that
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religion of Islam is not going to be spread without loss, without sacrifice, without even the loss
of limb and body and persons. And that loss is going to be bitter and difficult to bear. If this was
the case for the Prophet system and the Sahaba, then how about an hour times?
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Also notice compare the two characters, the two characters of Habib, the prisoner of war and the
last story and to find the chieftain in this story.
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Kobe has in his hands the baby
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and he can extract revenge and vengeance. But no, he's not going to do it. To fate has a messenger
who already has protection, and he assassinates him in the coolest of manners
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and such as the way of the heart of email
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With the heart of gopher, the heart of Iman is the heart of morality. And the heart of COVID has no
morality whatsoever. Notice as well, that of the fifth points that we derive over here.
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The concept of canoes is something that the fuqaha after this greatly different over one does one
make notes. And as you know, each method has its position and Now's not the time to get into this
but you know that the shaft theory sounds a little fragile and the head if you're saying the wooden
and others have their positions as well, but Allah Who are the strongest position is that note is
not linked to any prayer.
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rather poor note is only done
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at times of general calamity.
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Or notice done when something afflicts the oma and everybody should make up for those afflictions.
And frankly, this is assuming that that has been neglected by many, many people. It is assumed that
that has been neglected by much of the oma and so demotic narrated that the Prophet sallallahu
alayhi wasallam, after a bitter murder took place that the prophets of Salaam would stand up in the
last Raka. After the record, he would stand up in the last record, right. So you don't go on to
record then you stand up, and he would make dua note for the Shahada and against the
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tribes that had killed them. So when is Hulu done? Hulu is done in the very last striker at what
particular time when you stand up from record right so when you say Robin I will kill him. Then
after this, you raise your hands did you make Dora Conan
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and connote should be done for any distress or calamity that the oma is suffering from.
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And this is something that we should teach our
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congregations, the Muslim Ummah should know, for example, what's happening in Syria, what is
happening in Palestine, anything that might happen in the world, we should make a note like our
Prophet sallallahu Sallam made of the benefit. So therefore, in my opinion, this is not related to
this, in my opinion, cannot should not be done on a daily individual basis. It's not something that
is linked to budget or to witted, these are nothing to do with that, you just cannot when the
situation arises for the oma, this is the what we see here from these headaches. But this is 15. And
there are different methods, as you know, also of the benefits that we derive is that clearly the
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Profit System did not know or in the middle pipe, she sends 70 here and there, and he did not know
that they would die, even though he can describe the chieftain and he can do this and he can do
that. What Allah wants to tell him Allah will tell him, but our Prophet system does not know
unconditional animal life. There's no question. He knew more than any of us. And there is no
question a lot talked to things about this dunya and the Acura that would be right for us. How could
he not have when he went and saw the heaven and he saw mean ii terribile Cobra and he saw jubelin so
he has seen portions of the web that we have not seen, and of this world as well. He knows aspects
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of the hype
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that Allah allows or wants to teach him
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and Eliza just says in the Quran, where are you gonna be shaming me he
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will be Masha, whatever Allah wants to teach, He will teach to whomever he pleases, but
unconditional hype.
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No one knows other than Allah azza wa jal, Ola, Alamo Memphis Sarawak you will have the labor in the
law. No one knows the hype other than Allah. And this is clear evidence for this. The processor was
distressed and he sent these people out and yet he did not know what would happen to them.
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Also, the two people that the Sahaba ama had killed the two people that the Sahaba had killed on the
way back the Prophet sallallahu Sallam gave blood money to their relatives.
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And he took responsibility for their death. And this shows us a very, very profound lesson.
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Read lesson is that
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by by your treat is true, it is also true.
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Don't blame a person for the crimes and sins of his Treiber people.
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Which is something very relevant.
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Collective guilt, very relevant to our political situation and those who are angry at particular,
back and forth that are going on very relevant
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The issue of collective guilt. These were from the tribe of American to fight.
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They were from the same tribe. But they had not participated. They had no knowledge, they were
completely innocent. Right? And so the Profit System bears responsibility, he pays the blood money.
And it's a mistake, the guy made a mistake. So then he takes responsibility for that mistake. And he
plays pays the blood money to the relatives of the two people. And this clearly shows that what that
is, it was it was it overall, you're not going to be held accountable for what your tribe has done
what your nation has done, if you are not a part of that, if you don't participate if you have
nothing to do with that. And this is something we notice from this incident, as well. And the final
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point then inshallah we have some time for question answer. The final point as for ambivalent to
fail, he died a very pathetic and miserable death as is to be expected, as is to be expected from
somebody of such a nature, that he was inflicted with a type of leprosy that spread over his whole
skin, it started from under the arm, and then it spread. And it caused him to become delusional. And
it causes him to become a pariah his own people left him when you have leprosy, what's going to
happen, as you know, in those days, right, so he died of extremely painful and miserable death alone
in the desert, and allows the world to punish him in this world. Before the next his own people, his
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own family abandoned him, he was a crazed lunatic because of this, this filthy disease that overcame
him, and this is exactly what is to be expected. For someone of this nature, someone whom even the
profits are made against, how will this person ever be ever be saved? And inshallah next week, we
will do some,
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some follow ups as well. And especially the issue of the banana leaves, which is one of those
controversial issues again, and the promise that was given for the Battle of the Battle of remember,
at the Battle of water, the one finished, I was cancelled one year later, we're going to do it
again. Right. So inshallah, that we're going to talk about next Wednesday, insha, Allah, Tada. And
the announcements to be made.
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There are announcements from my side, we're going to be starting to use what is seen as shala.
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Two Tuesdays from now, can you make a note of that Dinesh? Not this coming Tuesday, but the one
after that, right.
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The
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kabam is at me made his way back to Medina. He made his way back to Medina. And he died a shahidan
in the Battle of 100. Yeah. So the brothers wanted to have to see through your scene. So we're going
to be having the scene in sha Allah
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on the 12th inshallah, at 730. And Dinesh can make a flyer for that. And what else there was another
announcement wasn't there?
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Yeah, okay. q&a, but brother, it was it is not your the fifth solid class. That was the
announcement. I remember the fifth class fill of solid part two, that's also going to be taking
place I think in two weeks. So the announcement for that as well. inshallah. Anyway, we have minutes
for questions, inshallah. Yes.
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Thank you,
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basically.
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So the Prophet system took responsibility for what his people have done. This is something they know
it was because of the man. But this is something that even in our times, the company takes
responsibility for the actions of its individuals, right. And we see this multiple times that when
this is a Muslim, who has done a genuine mistake, who's going to pay for this, it's going to be the
Muslim community. So because the process of gave them protection, and that protection was broken by
one of his own, the man is sent not sinful because he had made a genuine mistake, but in the end,
who's gonna pay responsibility? It will be the Muslim oma?
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No, if there was no a man, then there would not be that type of blood money, but there might have
been other types of
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there might have been other types of settlements that would have been done, but these people were
protected by the amount. So by breaking the amount, you have to pay the full blood money for these
two.
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Okay. Yes.
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Dave says had he had a multiplication Can you shed some light on the last tip and that he had was
closed
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What is the historical perspective?
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So the question is, there is a lot of talk about the door is Jihad having been closed and it was
reopened in the 19th century.
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This is a bit of a myth. The door he had was never closed. And its Jihad has always been operative
in the oma and is one of the signs of a thriving Islamic intellectual heritage. However, what
happened was that certain scholars, and what we now call medieval Islam, they felt that all of the
scenarios and situations that could possibly take place have been discussed. So there's no need for
HDR. And so there was this notion now of helaas. Everything has been, you know, been there done that
we've dealt with it. Now, when modernity was thrust upon the Muslim world, when Muslims met face to
face with Europeans, when Napoleon invaded Egypt, and then the French came to Algeria, and then the
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British came to India. And they saw for themselves the radical changes and the differences. So there
were a number of
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trends are reactions. One of these reactions was one can say somewhat
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shy reaction, you have an equal and opposite counter reaction, right? This is human nature, right?
So when they saw this excess, many Muslims want to the other access, which is shut yourself off from
these people don't learn their language, don't learn anything from them. And just go back to your
textbooks and just pass down the tradition as it came. Right. So in order to stir the hornet's nest,
if you like, right, another group said, the door wished he had should be reopened.
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I we should rethink through everything. And this is the other side of the coin. And this is the flip
side, which is now in our towns, we call them progressives. There were no turns back then. Right?
That lets everything is up for grabs. So in India, you had to say that.
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And in Egypt, you had Muhammad Abdul is the classic example of this, right? Mohammed Abdullah, the
one who said I visited England, and they saw Islam but no Muslims. And I came back to Egypt,
everywhere. There's Muslims, but no Islam. Right? And frankly, May Allah forgive him and all of us,
but clearly, there's an inferiority complex there, that you feel there, Islam is over there, and
there's no Islam back in Egypt. And you know, his fatawa. Or rather,
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what can I say, you know, they're not quite what we would consider it to be, you know, Mohammed
Abdullah, I mean, he was that type of mind that just to go ahead. So you had that trend, which is
the exact opposite, which is let's open up the door and everything up for grabs, right. And the
logical consequence of this
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is to say that
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everything is up for grabs.
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And this is exactly what one of Muhammad Abdul is main students. And that is Abdullah Raja.
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Raja,
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you should notice that he was the Minister of Egypt in the 1950s, Minister of Education,
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have the rows of one of one of Muhammad Abdul his main students, basically came forth and said that
all of the laws of Islam were meant only for that tribal society.
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And we have ultimate now freedom and choice to do as we please. The Profit System was not sent as a
law giver. He was sent as a co Legion to teach us how to pray and fast and wash ourselves in the
bathroom not to tell us how to have finance and divorce and marriage and inheritance. That's for the
tribal system of that time.
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The modern people yeah, who are let's be very careful about modern people. Because modern people,
they go back and forth, and they change. As for people who have gone on, it's easier to discuss
their thoughts because we know what they we know what they are about. But I don't mind mentioning
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the particular person who I mentioned, because
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actually, he is a good friend of mine. And we get along very well together, and I have nothing but
respect for him. And I don't see him as being any way, shape or form somebody who lacks respect for
the traditional he respects the tradition. But the problem comes in I have by now you should know
this, about me and about the type of
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vision of Islam that I have. The problem comes is difficult navigating through both of these
extremes. It's not easy.
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We have on both sides of the spectrum. We have people. We have the ultra conservative literalist.
Right, and frankly, they are preaching to a small choir, a small group of
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People, their message will never go beyond the people who already are card carrying members of their
groups. You see what I'm saying? Right? Because they don't have a realistic vision for Islam. And
then you have the other side, which are basically whatever the Western culture says is good Islam
should also say is good. The West says democracy helaas Islam is fully democracy democratic. The
West says human rights call us human rights. The West says equality and sexual freedom call us
equality and sexual freedom. Right. And this is exactly what we're seeing that anything that's
politically correct or evoke helaas, Islam also has to have that same volg characteristic, right?
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Islam, as usual, is in the middle.
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And it's not easy to navigate through. And I believe that this individual, you mentioned, is trying
his best to navigate through. That doesn't mean I agree with every single position that he has. But
overall, people like this are definitely within the mainstream. Right then another person, a similar
type of, you know, framework and background, but obviously far more scholarly is Jeff Pallavi
shahabi has many issues that I disagree with personally, but I don't ever
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disrespect him. He's a great Haarlem. And he's trying his best to navigate through the issues here
that when should we remain firm? And when should we? And when should we be, you know, more relaxed,
more lenient? It's not easy.
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It's not easy. And this is the big question of Islam of our times. So you're
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Yeah, it is one of the critiques. Yeah. But again, to answer your question, simply, so this is the
issue of the door of a wish they had been shutter open. This is completely vein talk, it was never
shut. Nobody has the right to shut it. And nobody has the right to open. It's always been open.
Rather, the reason why this talk came up, as we said, a group of people needed to kind of sort of
provoke the ultra conservatives to start thinking realistically. And so they said, We need to open
the door wish to hide again. And therefore this rhetoric, you know, filtered down to us as well. But
there are plenty of articles and research done. This is just cut out for the Frank Franklin's cannot
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folly. What is the door? Where is the key who has all rhetoric? Never was the door he had closed?
It's always been open, and it's always going to remain open shallow. That was a completely unrelated
question, but yeah, hamdulillah inshallah, last question shall go ahead.
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Is there a lesson to be learned?
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Oh, they're gonna get a request or
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Wait,
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wait, wait and do it right away. Because you need the right manpower to do it.
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I've said this many times, our religion is obviously a perfect religion. There are times to forgive.
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And then there are times to kick some you know what,
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and we need to know when to do what
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we need to know when to do what, and anybody who always asked for vengeance is going to execute
himself in the process. And anybody who teaches you always have to turn the other cheek, will never
be able to live up to that himself.
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And this is what we've seen in the real world. Right. And therefore, our religion being that
practical, pragmatic, realistic religion, the apostle is to forgive. But there are times and there
are situations where forgiveness is not too good and treachery is one such time this is not a
personal fault. This is not just one, this is blatant treachery.
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And
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this cannot be allowed to pass and we will see this inshallah later on what happens.
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We don't know when he found out but we will find out later on that it did cause a bit of a tussle.
But we don't know. I haven't found any book that says when the messengers came out, did his
reaction. We don't know exactly, but he was sincere in the promise. That's the main thing he did not
expect to be, you know, broken Shahla. You want to make the announcements.
