Wasim Kempson – How to Deal With a Mental Illness

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			example over cancer sister, welcome to the show. What's your question for us today?
		

			Amanda studio? Yes, you understood you
		

			well, I have a question about myself. I suffer from screening schizophrenia
		

			and I can't pray and I can't recite the Quran as well. Could you sorry says that I didn't catch
that. Could you describe what that innocence describe the illness? Mental illness?
		

			Schizophrenia? Yeah.
		

			Okay, you can continue thank you so much system.
		

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			if the share could tell me what what I should do you find in difficulty praying you said, Yeah,
praying. Okay. And I feel depressed as well. Can you move numbers? No. Okay, then sister, thank you
so much for calling us today. Do you have any more questions? No. All right, and inshallah we'll be
the chef will be able to help you, sister. Stay strong. Inshallah. Thank you so much for calling me
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			So chef, this is the ask, due to mental illness, which is schizophrenia. She's finding difficulty
praying, she's suffering depression, if you could give us some advice.
		

			So firstly, I said a lot are the marble outershell Kareem and you should be that almost Allah
subhanaw taala that he cures and makes it easy for our sister. And she should know shallot and every
Muslim should know that Allah subhanaw taala will only test every individual according to the level
of the Iman, that Allah subhanaw taala will never test you with a test that is beyond your
capability, in that you are doomed to fail, you can never pass that test. Okay. You know, if I put
myself in an exam, which is to do with physics or something library and a level or even beyond that,
for me, I will I will fail. Because there's a you know, I, I don't know, it's not my speciality and
		

			I will fail it for sure. But Allah subhanaw taala always test us with an exam with a test that we
are able to pass. And this is because Allah subhanaw taala loves us and Allah Subhan Allah is
merciful to us, even though Subhanallah even though that you may not see the Rama, the mercy and the
love of Allah subhanaw taala at that very moment, but as long as you persevere and you show patience
with Allah subhanaw taala for sure, Allah subhanaw taala will allow you to see the beauty and the
benefit of being patient. And how Allah subhanaw taala loves you for that test. Okay, so if at all
of us, we always bear that in mind, even though we have very, very testing times. And we have very
		

			difficult times different you know, different end points in our life. That if I, if I know that it
is Allah subhanaw taala is the one who is testing me,
		

			then for sure, and only it makes it only makes sense that I am going to ask the one who is testing
me and that is Allah subhanaw taala if I know Allah is testing me, I'm not gonna go to somebody else
to help me. If Allah is testing me, I will go to Allah to help me. Okay, so I ask Allah subhanaw
taala to make it easier for the sister and to make it easy for all of our brothers and sisters who
are going through
		

			you know, any kind of mental health issues because you know, sometimes it's very difficult for them
to you know, maybe to access the the necessary help that that is available. And sometimes you find
certain communities
		

			Muslim communities that they they don't want to recognize that somebody can have you know, some form
of depression how Muslim can be depressed What are you talking about? We'll Quran COVID Quran and go
make dua and you'll be fine. Okay. Now there are certain mental illnesses that do affect Muslims
okay. And the fact that
		

			the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam used to seek refuge from Al Hasan from sadness means that it
kind of afflict people, okay. So it can afflict people. So if Muslims have this notion that you
know, Muslim, the Muslim is never depressed, or Muslim has never said
		

			this is a mistake to say such a thing because we have
		

			have clear supplications that the Prophet says and taught us to seek refuge in Allah jell O Allah so
that we don't fall into sadness, okay? So it can affect then it can, it can affect people.
		

			So there may be certain communities who, who reject this notion that Muslims can have any form of,
of mental illness, and so on. And so just let them get on with it and they want to just overlook it.
And in the end, you find that that individual who's going through the who's suffering through that,
only, you know, that the suffering continues. And Alhamdulillah in the UK, we have many services
that are available to to help people, you know, regarding or depending on whatever difficulty that
they're going through, okay. So if the sister is, is feeling like this, I would, I would say to her
to try and access as many services as much help as she can, because the medical issue, or medical
		

			issues aren't just something physical, okay, you know, I've caught myself I've broken my bone or I
need an operation or something like that. Sometimes, we need a medical help, which has to do with
our minds as well, we need support, okay. And it is extremely important that as a Muslim community
that we recognize that so that we can deal with it, okay. So I would say to the sister that she
should
		

			seek medical help 100% Inshallah, tada that there are certain things out there which can help which
can help her channel 10 Okay. And not forgetting, not forgetting that, that the one who is testing
her and it has no doubt test from Allah subhanaw taala that it is Allah subhanaw taala and that the
only one no human being will change her state to does Allah subhanaw taala is going to change her
state and change all of our states and our situations, that if she you know, she recognizes that
there is an issue and she wants to deal with it.
		

			At the time, she is feeling well, the time that she feels you know, because sometimes you there are
good days and maybe there are other days which she doesn't feel so good. Okay, the days that you do
feel good. Then make dua to Allah subhanaw taala Okay, call upon Allah subhanaw taala and part of
our relationship with Allah subhanaw taala because I am a Muslim Willie led by c'est la ilaha
illAllah Muhammad Rasool Allah, I say that therefore I recognize Allah as my Lord, and whom I
worship. And part of my worship is that I will offer Salah what I will offer my salah when I can
inshallah to Allah when I know that I feel good, I feel strong. There may be days when maybe I
		

			forget myself, I don't know. And I feel like I'm not in control of myself, okay? If this is the
situation, then there's nothing upon you because you know, you don't know what is happening, okay?
And we know that the pen is raised on certain people, okay, you're not accountable for your deeds if
you like, but it is important that you, you take a look into the necessary help so that you don't
cause yourself any harm. Okay? But the days and the times that you do feel good and shut out and
then you try to establish the prayer, okay? You try your very best to,
		

			to ask Allah subhanaw taala to make easy your situation. And I'm sure and Allah Subhan Allah Allah
knows best.
		

			In the fact that the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam told us that Allah subhanaw did not send
down any illness, except that there is a cure for it as well. Okay, there was help for that. So if a
person feels that they have a difficulty, have some form of illness, go and search that they were
going to you know, look for that treatment that will help you be even elated, by Allah subhanaw
taala has permission and I think this is no need advice for the sister and Alaska Eliza to make it
easy for her, but also all of our brothers and sisters, that they have illnesses or difficulties
whether it's physical or mental, or even spiritual issues, go to a person who can help you. Okay,
		

			and by Allah subhanaw taala has permission, because Allah says Allah made these as a means, okay,
for you, Inshallah, to Allah eventually to be cured by Allah subhanaw taala. Thank you so much. In
addition to that, I don't know if you're aware there's a charity in the community that's doing great
work in regards to raising awareness, and kind of like combating the stigma existing in the
community and
		

			in spirited minds. Yes, that's what the spirited minds they have. They have counselors, handler, so
I thought just good mentioned that. I remember when they were first being established. Yes. And they
contacted me and they said, You support algo? I think there's maybe a couple of years ago, yes. And
I said it's a very much needed kind of service within the Muslim community. Because not just on this
topic of mental health, but sometimes as Muslims because we have been given with the left hand
guidance from Allah subhanaw taala. And we know that Allah azza wa jal has given us a perfect way of
life, that somehow that all of our lives will somehow be perfect, and that we don't suffer. Or we
		

			don't when there's no vices within our conditional ills in our community, that certain things don't
happen. You know, everything is everything's lovely, and we're looking at are looking at through
look at the world through rose tinted glasses. And the reality is that, yes, Alhamdulillah we have
perfect guidance from Allah subhanaw taala we have a perfect way of life. We have a perfect prophet
in the Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu and it was, but that doesn't guarantee for sure, because none of
us will be perfect. We all have sins, we all have shortcomings, and some of those shortcomings and
some of those sins will be things which we don't want to recognize that they will be certain facts
		

			actresses that are maybe well known in non Muslim environments or non Muslim communities that as
Muslims, we'd be embarrassed to say that, you know, we have such things going on. Yes, yes. Okay. So
things like domestic violence, okay? This is something which unfortunately is, is very common, okay?
Even child abuse if it does exist within Muslim communities, and is not sufficient to say that we
have Islam and we are Muslims and everything's okay. And that they have a beard and she wears a
hijab and they are praying that a person wouldn't do such a thing. It is possible the person may do
a thing as though for Allah. Okay. Yes. And it is important that we recognize that these ills that
		

			they do exist within our community, and that they need to be dealt with. And not just to put things
under the carpet and to say, No, everything is okay and everything will be okay. If you're aware of
such things that people need help, you should ensure because it's part of our religion, and Allah
subhanaw taala is quantum hieromartyr an accredited investor and you are the best nation that was
raised amongst man people amongst mankind. Why a more honorable amount of effort and Hona and it
occurred to me because you command the good and forbid the evil and believe in Allah subhanaw taala.
So if such ills are going on in communities commander, God forbid the evil, okay, it is not
		

			sufficient for us to say it doesn't exist. It does exist unfortunately. It's a reality. And it's
important we deal with any appropriate way. Well, thank you so much, Jeff. May Allah Who