Shadee Elmasry – The Hijrah Walk NBF 333
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start off right away with a new segment on the number of facts
live stream, a new segment called What's the ruling on that? Does
income incontinence break we'll do what's the ruling on that? All
right. Incontinence is
defined as when you lose control of the urine that comes out of
you. You no longer control urination, okay, I have drops of
urine that occur without my control during the day. Am I
required to make will do from these drops since they are not in
my control?
The answer says
a shift Khalil says in his matassa as does mm D it is commentary on
it. Known as a * Kebede. He says breaking your wudu is defined
as a normal excrement such as urine or feces coming out of their
normal exits the front and the back in the state of health and
normalcy. That is the definition of head death or breaking wood.
The word for breaking would do is head with gut and it is all
defined as normal excrement coming out of the normal exits from a
normal state of health. Incontinence is normal excrement
it's coming out of a normal exit but it is not a normal state of
health. Incontinence is usually a medical issue stemming from other
health issues. So therefore the medical scholars have divided
incontinence into two categories. Frequent and infrequent. Frequent
incontinence is defined as when your leakage occurs for more than
half of the prayer time,
which is defined from the huddle. Get as from the time of today
until sunrise of tomorrow's it's more than half. So you should
estimate how many hours within that time does my leakage occur?
If it is for more than half then you are categorized as someone
with frequent incontinence. If it is less than that, then you are
infrequent. So what is the prayer time? The prayer time in the day
is three quarters of the day. We pray for three quarters of the
day. Right? From Fudger. To the Lord, there's no Salah. So for one
quarter of the 24 hour cycle, there's no prayer. So today, the
prayer time is three fourths of a day. So if you are incontinent for
half of that time or more, more than half of that time, then you
are frequent. Okay.
For somebody
who has leakage have a drop every hour. Okay. They would be under
the category of infrequent incontinence is because there's
enough separation between drops, that you wouldn't have enough time
to make wudu and pray before another job occurs. This is the
answer that shakaama didn't move at all so gave and you refer to
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but I got the ruling is now we get to the ruling
for the infrequent, the ruling is that for the one who has
infrequent incontinence there would do is invalidated by the
leakage even though it is not voluntary. This is because they
would have reasonable belief that they can perform would do and pray
in a time of dryness before their incontinence starts back up again.
For the frequent if you have frequent incontinence,
their will do is not broken by the incontinence. However, their would
do would be broken by any other normal going to the bathroom and
any other normal reasons to go to the bathroom.
Such as if they had incontinence in wind gas via they would be
forgiven for that. If they are incontinent in urine only but
they're able to but but not incontinent in passing gas
then
They're there what they're incontinent in is something that
is forgiven for them that does not break their will do. Okay? But
what they do have control over counts against them. Likewise, if
they voluntarily pass gas, they would also need to remake their
will do
they voluntarily pass gas they would need so it should also mean
that if you know that a certain medicine or treatment can fix the
problem and you're willingly refuse it, then you're not excused
anymore. Likewise, as long as it is not a difficulty, it is
recommended for you to make wudu before every prayer
recommended to make wudu for every prayer Okay. All right. So that's
our segment today on incontinence get
any questions on that?
Yes,
you want to do it like this for what are you gonna do
for it, so whatever is easier for you? I like both of them. We have
guests today. By the way.
We have a guest on the hijra, there is a hidden walkway. Why is
this uneven? Why just this is just this is just jerseys not only is
uneven, how's this? No better? Yeah, gotta be even. Right.
Very good.
We got, we got guests today. We got to such segments, both on the
sacred sites today is all about the sacred sites. There are three
sacred sites in Islam. There's not too and one little addendum, there
are three sacred sites. So our first guest is going to talk about
the Hijra walk. The Hijra walk is essentially
a new thing. That's all I'm gonna groups are doing where they walk
the path of the Hijra.
The second guest we have is shift Mandy lock on his new book, a
memoir bazoo Hey, is your Haley's book the eminent rank of L quotes.
It's a beautiful book. It's published by Noah books. It's only
68 pages. And he's gonna give us a summary and then where to pick up
this book, guys by Noah books. And he also has a new book also by
Noah books, probably all his Shammi stuff, everything by the
scholars or semi publishers through Noah books.
Anything that is not from the ultimate Hashem Well, hopefully we
can. We can get him
to publish with us too. Okay. All right. Let's take this one segment
here on raising children. This is a nice little segment here. The
messenger sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said Moo ola.com Bisola
wome. Abner was Subbasin in start telling your kids to pray when
they hit seven?
Well, the womb I lay her womb a brunette washed and be very stern
with them on it regarding age 10 at age 10. Dry by age 10. No child
should be skipping prayer or fooling around insula will
Federico Bay known for the mythology and separate between
them in the beds meaning kids should not be touching each other
skin to skin in the bed. So the magic is an answer to this or
their approach to this is
is that when the province is separate between them, the
separation here should be the separation of the skin to skin. So
it doesn't necessarily have to be separate beds or even separate.
But of course, if it's genders, it has to be separate beds. No doubt
about that. That's not a discussion. But if it's like boys
with boys, yeah. So this hadith contains a ruling that is one of
the most important rulings connected to raising children. It
actually includes three things, commanding them to pray
disciplining them for that and separating them in the beds. It is
one of the obligations of the revealed law guy that the parents
must teach their children about Allah and His Messenger peace be
upon him and the obligations they're in. As for the wisdom
behind this, of course, young children and
upbringing to their guardians begins with the closest guardian,
which is the father, he's the most responsible, it only in the
absence of the Father. Does the mother become responsible? Could
it look kumara and Wakulla, comas own Araya t. Of course, when the
father goes out, when the father is busy, the mother becomes the
main guardian.
And if the mother and father is there, the father is the one who's
going to be asked like, the question is, who's going to be
asked on the Day of Judgment? Who is Allah gonna ask in the presence
of mother and father? Allah asked the father in the presence of the
mother only of course then that's the
Mother only there's no other option. But she is Kulu. Qumran
coloma's, oh Lord. And by the way, I had posted a clip, there was a
clip posted in which I said that when a woman has to bear
hardships,
then it alters her nature. And this is why Allah doesn't this is
one of the reasons why Allah does not want a woman to bear
hardships. And some people say, Oh, hold on isn't raising kids
hardship yet. We're talking about hardships with strangers and
earning wealth. That's the hardship we're talking about.
We're not talking about the hardship of
raising Joe. Of course, raising children is a hardship waking up
in the middle of the night doing all these things. But when you're
raising kids, there's no one trying to steal your kids. There
is no competition. There are no strangers you're dealing with, and
you're not going outside all day. That's the big difference when a
man goes out, and he has to work, and that's the responsibility I'll
put on him. He's dealing with strangers. He's dealing with
people who have to, we're trying to maybe possibly compete against
him in the job, right?
He's got to keep up to date.
If he doesn't stay up to date, okay, like someone else is going
to take his job. I mean, I'm sitting here with a brother who
was in compliance, like you got to be up to date, right? There's
young cats that are going to come in and could do the same work you
can win with, with no family, they'll probably take less money,
right?
So there is no such thing as there's no competition. No one's
competing to breastfeed your kids. You're not fending off competition
from absolute strangers who have no reason to care about you, and
are only caring about themselves. So there is a significant
difference in the nature of a woman's hard work and a man's hard
work.
Significant Difference. And there's a significant difference
between working inside the house and outside the house. Right? So
there's no one saying that there's no that a woman does not exert
effort. And by the way, most women are do have to end up working
either because you need a dual income house. family in this day
and age, sometimes it's just the fact. Right. Secondly, not every
woman has a Willie than an A Mahara man, a husband and a father
that's doing his job in Islam. All right. In fact, I would probably
venture to say that the women who don't ever have to worry about $1
in their life are probably in the severe minority right now.
Right? Definitely in the minority, just the way the world is. But
we're just talking about the theory of things here. And the
ideal.
Alright, so the guardians are responsible, the father's
responsibility for his kids, Dean, first and foremost, when we're
talking about guardianship, what is the value of guarding their
dunya that they live in? It's 60 years and not their ACA in which
they're going to live forever. So the first thing that a guardian
has to do is guard their ACA and part of it talks about this last
week, or Yeah, last episode, last session, when we said that
submitting your children to non believers has rulings on it is
permitted in Morocco and the French came and took over
Mauritania and Algeria. And now all of a sudden, the public
schools are all run by the French, right?
They issued rulings on going to such schools. They forbade them to
submit your kid to a an institution run by someone who
does not observe the shittier and the child is helpless. He's not an
adult that can sell figure myself out. Right and I'll maneuver No,
no, it's it they issued fits our on the prohibition of that they
prohibited that in the Muslim country, let alone in one ear in a
non Muslim country. On top of that, the whole society,
everything on online, every billboard every store, every inch
of the society is going one direction on certain matters. And
our dean is telling us go to the other direction on certain
matters, right? Children are not meant for that kind of pressure.
They're not meant to be in spiritual warfare. They're really
not meant for that. Right? Hey, Oh my What is this that you're
designing here?
The new segment oh, what's the ruling on that?
No, what's the ruling on that? Yeah. Because actually comes from
from a side joke that we have with some friends. What's the ruling on
that? No, what's the ruling on that the whole thing I know it's
long but
you know how you do it? You put what's the and then you put ruling
in italics and then on that below it like that?
Yeah, it's a put route and yeah, that's good too.
Okay, so
alright.
Allah hands this responsibility over to a fam to the parents and
it's upon them to guide their children to the right paths first
and foremost, and then to their worldly benefit. Secondly,
and when you have people take it the opposite way and the first
thing is that they want to do is
worry about their dunya first. Okay?
Their dunya first then dean second.
You went up someone with the comes up to you, kid 17 And he's whining
complaining and saying my kid doesn't he's not nice. He's not
obeying us is causing us problems. Well, you didn't care, right?
Secondly, shuckin Booty says in his commentary on the Sierra, he
says that the only time that we're expected to sacrifice our dunya
for the deen
is when that it or the purpose for that is to rebuild the dunya
properly.
Alright, so he says, Why is it that the early Muslims had to
sacrifice so much for their Deen? Right? But later Muslims did it.
So Sahaba like lost their homes? He says because it is not that
Allah to Allah wishes to take away your dunya it's rather he wishes
for it to be built on solid grounds. It's as if saying the
foundation of this home. It's no good. The foundation of this
household of this building is not good. So we have to root and tear
down the whole building and to rebuild it better. That's why so
has nothing to do with the idea that it's so noble to have no
dunya and to suffer. No, that's not the goal of religion that's
not Allah's Will for us. Allah's Will for us is to have a dunya
that is established on a on the proper foundation, a foundation
that does not etch away at your afterlife, okay?
doesn't take away from your after your investing. Alright, imagine
you get to go back 50 years, and somebody tells you, hey, there's
this new kid named Bill Gates out there. And he's got a company
called Microsoft, do you want to be an investor? Well, here's a
bunch of money. Here's 200. Here, here's $2,000 of your salary to
live on. And here's $2 million to invest. So let's say you're,
you're now living in a situation that you have to eat away. You
have to eat away at the investment money, we say, no, no, no.
You got $2,000 to live with and 2 million to invest. Don't eat away
at the $2 million. Reduce your living, reduce your expenses so
that you're below 2000 Every month, don't eat away at the 2
million that you're going to invest, don't eat away at that
same thing. When our foundations when our worldly life is eating
away at our eternal life, the worldly life has to be adjusted.
And if that means this room has to be removed, this building has to
be removed,
then so be it. That's for our betterment. So shifted booty
always mentioned this point that the only time that there's loss in
religion is when it's not built on the right foundation. Okay? Even
sometimes, the love of a person can be in our heart in a position
in our heart that
is only meant for Allah subhanaw taala. So we have to remove them
from our heart, that removal right from our heart. It's not removing
them completely. It's removing them from a location of the heart
that is only for Allah. That's why Prophet Ibrahim had to sacrifice
the profit is made.
In the majority opinion is the profit is made based on the Hadith
and the behind based on the Hadith that it was in Mecca. Prophets.
Huck was never in Mecca. So it's very strange and some narrate that
some Sahaba had this view that the BIA was his Huck, when was this?
How can Mecca Right? And how was he able to the behind? And if you
look at the Quran, the story of the the BIA comes with no name,
that the BIA means the one who was meant to be slaughtered. And then
Allah says, then we gave him his hop, but should never be his hop.
So How could Allah give him good news about the birth of his hop
after the slaughter? Doesn't make any sense? Right.
So the strongest dominant opinion is that Allah commanded Prophet
Abraham to slaughter his son, because his son had entered into a
part of Abraham's heart that was only for Allah.
That was it. So there are certain parts of our hearts.
Where people can be is the part of our heart that would never impact
our eternal life. Ardene good. Our guests are now settling in we're
going to talk about the Hijra walk. Right and I'm going to give
them my suggestion that the real Hijra walk should be like this.
You guys get a three day Head Start. And after you people are
coming after you with BB guns, right enough paint to be a hassle
to ruin your job
and your garments and your clothes and they're going to wrestle you
into the dirt and into the scent. Because now at that point
That's a real hedge a walk because I got pressure. They didn't have a
hedge or walk that was leisurely profits hedge in a walk was with
stress. And Kulluk. Right? Isn't it was stressed with worrisome.
Alright, so
we got to mimic that part of it too. Anyway, that's just I say
that in jest, of course.
Alright, so that ends the segment number two on the priorities of
upbringing. I mean, it's a very simple concept. It's a very simple
answer. And I've never ever once seen a family that prioritized
their deen and were accurate in the application. And gentle,
accurate, the correct Deen. And they were gentle in the
application, except that they had great results for their kids and
none of their kids are hungry. None of their kids are starving,
none of their kids are suffering, right? All of their kids.
Right, all of their kids are are doing well. And I've never seen
somebody
devote their life to the Quran. To be a half have to be to be
anything like any ma'am. And that Allah leaves them.
They may struggle in the beginning. But just like you
struggle in the beginning, if you run a business, right?
But eventually Allah helps them. It looks like Bill hasn't Can you
center yourself a little bit? Are guys having trouble?
Got a few more minutes. All right, let's take some q&a until until we
settle this on the two segments that we had.
We had two segments.
We talked first on what's the ruling on that is our segment on
fifth. And we covered that the second one was the segment on
parenting. And the number the the the logical reason if you actually
believe if you believe in the dunya. And if you live in the ACA,
that has to be your priority.
And when the dunya is the priority of people, you see the results,
that's the truth of the matter. Hate to say it like that, and it
sounds a little bit harsh, but you just see the results when the
dunya is the priority. When he's doing his priority in an Islamic
environment in the Muslim world, you see the results, let alone in
this world that we live in here. All right.
So you need to have the right understanding of the religion. And
you need the right method
of guiding to the religion and you need the right balance. Cannot
cannot have an imbalanced person.
Where it says Dean Dean, Dean Dean, even the Sahaba didn't do
that with each other. Like the Sahaba had been our best. He
didn't do that with his companions. Even our boss used to
say Today's a day off. Basically.
hellish razor says to separation mean when one of the children is
age 10.
I believe so once a child a child is at the age of 10, then at that
point, he should not be sleeping in the same bed with his sister.
Okay, probably in our world, it's even earlier than that. Right?
If it's a boy and a girl, and if it's two boys, now the certain
things that they shouldn't do when they're when they when they reach
that age, like sometimes kids, they have they these group
bathroom sessions, like what's going on here? You think it's like
more rewardable 27 times you go to the bathroom together? No, there's
no, after a certain age, you have to stop that right? There they go
all in the bathroom at the same time, you'd have to stop that at a
certain age, those types of things, anything that would be
related to the bodies and the privacy. And at certain point the
boys not can no longer going to be playing with with the girls and
vice versa.
What should kids who have to go through spiritual warfare and
trauma at a young age to after it's over?
Well, the best medicine for spiritual trauma or spiritual
warfare is companionship there in
to have kids who are also going through that, like I remember for
a lot of us.
We may have been in different schools all by ourselves, like the
only Muslim kid in the school. But then when we got together, it was
like, oh, it's like deflated all the tension because you're going
through what I'm going through and we're all going through the same
thing. It's like deflates all the tension.
So that's really important.
Okay
are they're saying when you speak in the mic, can you bring it
closer or raise your volume they're saying
oh, your mic was off that's why his mic was totally off so just
keep it on when you're Yeah. Hello stranger says what will they do
with the near Jaza
due to the incontinence require washing again and again and again?
Well, that that part wasn't mentioned. So yeah.
We have to add that to the QA,
right?
To add that to the QA
Rutgers is about to have its own encampment sit in and see if the
police are gonna go after them.
Alright, what happens when someone has incontinence and OCD at the
same time? People who have OCD what I've seen works is actual
physical medication. Like physical medication really works with this
and I highly recommend people just go with that.
Alright.
What is the Hijra? Someone says Hijra is the migration of the
Prophet peace be upon him from Mecca to Medina.
Billa Do you have more light in your room?
turn on a light light the Yeah That one's good.
The other one was good and yeah and there's no actual light in the
room.
And is the incontinence question gender specific notes on gender
specific?
Is it permissible to make dua in my own language and select Yes if
you don't speak Arabic Well yes, you can do that
alright ladies and gentlemen, we bring on to you
three individuals who run a really really interesting and amazing
tour of the migration of the Prophet peace be upon him
from Mecca to Medina and they now do it on foot
right they'll take you on foot and let's bring them on now we have
what seem ways oh that's our aways
from from Medina aways and beloved
Welcome to these events it nothing but facts live stream.
So
yes, we can hear you well.
Let's start from let's go
clockwise. Let's go counter. Let's go counterclockwise since we're
talking about Mecca and Medina to off and let's start with Waseem,
tell us about the organization what do you do exactly
similar work in firstly thank you Dr. Shadi and the team for having
us on this beautiful podcast and share the platform with you it's
an honor we've been following for many years so mashallah with
yourself and to be able to share some reflections it's it's a lot
of blessings. So alhamdulillah myself, I'm based in the UK we met
in Bradford, if you recall at the most of amount. That's my hometown
mashallah wonderful. I lived in London for about 1516 years. I
qualified as a lawyer in London and then thereafter I got involved
in attending some of our classes with our teachers have arrived
when she comes in and the night when they came to the UK, just
attending programs and trying to consumer be a student. And still
today till today, but then I got involved in organizing Islamic
events, Tours, opened up the country Alhamdulillah for the last
best part of a decade, Mashallah. I met my dad with Ebola on the
path and we both he's a doctor, I was a lawyer, but we both made an
active step to try to give our skills and our intentions and our
hemma to support and bring our scholars and teachers across the
UK. So that's what I've been doing. I still continue to do so.
Alhamdulillah we were then blessed to go on this hero's journey,
which I mentioned later, but we can pass it on to my other
brothers to introduce themselves amazing, amazing ways. Are you
frozen? Because you've been sitting like that for a long time?
You good? Sorry, can you can you hear me? Can you hear me? Yeah, we
can hear you. Always Are you in Medina? Are you in England? Okay,
I'm doing
I'm in Medina. I'm in Medina. Yeah. This is the waste that is
our host whenever we go to Medina. So tell us about this Hijra tour.
How do you do what exactly do you need permits from the Saudi
government or what?
Yes, you have to be authorized by the Saudi government there have to
be official channels that you take
that you have to go through in order to
very good so and Whose idea was this?
This is a my idea.
Go ahead. Bismillah. Go to us.
I was going to say that it's been a dream of what seems for a very
long time. Ever since I've known him is wanted to undertake this
journey and he
was the one who invited myself and and the rest of us to come along.
It's something that I wanted to do since a young child as well. But
what seemed was the mastermind behind it.
All right now here's the question for Bill do you go down south
first and then go up north or you just go straight to Medina?
Yeah, so it's not when he comes, love me to join you all from Cape
Town, South Africa, South Africa. Mashallah. So, you know,
subhanAllah, it was, you know, the Hijra is, is just this amazing,
epic story. And
in exactly as you said, that, you know, the process started by going
south to cave thought. And actually, on the first day, when
we were heading south, and we started to get to sort of the
first remote areas, we we met a random Shepherd, camel shepherd.
And we told him like he said, away you go, so we're going to Medina.
And he's like, You got to get away.
And we were like, no, no, we doing the Hijra route. So the caravan
route between Medina is well known, and it's well established.
And obviously, the process did that route, the major caravan
route as the mini Sahaba. Even after he passed, there was no many
people would go up and down. But the Hijra route was very much off
the beaten track. So started off exactly going south towards Cape
Town, where we climbed cave door and we had a little gathering
there. And then we continued on westward, essentially walking
towards Jeddah to the coast. Okay, so here's the question. So Mecca
to vote for, essentially, that's a straight line. Right? And that's
not so far. Correct. How long does that take?
Correct. So, yeah, it's not far at all. Yeah. But so we we did,
maybe like 20 30% of the entire route was by vehicle, partly for
safety, partly because we couldn't go through private properties, you
know, carrying everything etc. So the way our logistically, the way
it worked out, is that we started, we went to Thor, we climb so and
then we came back, we stayed in that night in the hotel,
obviously, on the original history of the prophets SLM, stayed there
for three nights. And then from our hotel, we sort of our car sort
of dropped us off just outside of Makkah, and we sort of started the
route. Okay, so question for you is, how did you know what the
actual route of the profit was, for example, mech gets about a
third of outflow to Medina, there's probably you could go
straight line, you can go a curved line, you could go a squiggly
line, do we have the actual knowledge and transmission on
how the Prophet travels? Yeah, so it's a great question. And for the
past 2030 years, there's been an incredible scholar from Saudi
Arabia, Sheikh Abdullah kadhi, who's been doing an incredible
amount of research and also using the latest technology, GPS mapping
in order to make the best estimate of what that original route was
Now historically, the route was known and it was visited and
people would have used it and there was various points on the
route that are actually you know, important markers. So halfway, one
of the really beautiful moments we had was in was in Java, which is
essentially the macaque for the people of Sharm and Egypt and so
on. So you know, it's and we're told has
I shared the love on her she did ombre three times she put her arm
on it that we caught and then came to Makkah so this is a really well
known spot obviously now people from you know sham and Niger they
don't go to that Makati anymore they they put it on in the sky or
before so there's various route points of the route that are known
and actually there was there was actually I remember this one
intersection where we literally came where the the caravan route
and the history sort of merged and then they split apart and during
the history of the process, I'm obviously they went off the beaten
track as you mentioned, you know to stay away from the assassins.
But at various points they had to come closer to the caravan route
because they were running out of supplies and they needed to
replenish and restock and and these are where some of the key
moments happened you know Famous gate devalue, or map but was was a
lot closer towards the caravan route. Okay, so if the Prophet
went on that route, is it today a road? Like when you do this Hijra
walk Are you walking on a highway? Are you walking totally off the
highway? You stopped, stopped the first two days on the highway.
It's the first two days like you mentioned from Thor because we
didn't stay the three days that we came back to the hotel the next
morning. From Day Two today full. You're walking towards gender
before you come in not that part of the journey. It's it's still a
lot of construction pylon electricity. You see the train
track often we're going
under bridges under the road, so that part of the first couple of
days, you're still seeing the manmade structures and the terrain
is still mixture of desert. But then
after the third, fourth day of the fourth day, that's when you're
into the desert. So the point where what I was talking about
when you get to the value of a map, but And beyond that, you're
completely in the desert from day four till day 1011 You're
completely out there, there's parts you don't have data, there's
no electricity. So the way it worked with us was that we
obviously it was an intention that we had since 2007. For me
personally, when I met Sheikh Abdullah in in Saudi, but all
these different tensions merge and it's like the livers are
connected. So beloved came in a week before he I'm sure
interesting story, how he came into the atria away as we knew the
in my heart that he's going to come. But we only spoke like,
maybe three days, four days before the journey, and he's Madhupur as
he is always ready Bismillah I'm ready. And so for me, I started in
2007. When you know, if you're familiar with the river I
attended, the first time we share comes up in in Saudi, and we
stopped at this blessed MACOM of Satan, my Munna, the last word
from our prophets, Allah Salam. And if you didn't know what this
McCallum was, but we had this very amazing fragrance heavenly
fragrance coming from this
is McCallum. And then after she counter told her the story and the
blessing of this place, and then he slowly pointed out to someone
who's in the background, and that was sick of the Lord kadhi.
This is one of my dear friends, and he's working on a very blessed
project on the hatred journey. And, and at that time, it was a
combination of emotions of Oh, subhanAllah, we're connected to
these teachers, and look how she comes in our teachers and Imams
aid advisor on the sanctity of these blessed places, and the
honor and the veneration, and how to be when you're in those places,
and all of those emotions, and then we come across someone like
Sheikh Abdullah, who's like now, or he's working out this thing,
that desire came in my heart when I was like, Inshallah, when this
book is done, and when he's completed, I want to go on the
journey. So I asked him, and he's like, beautiful attention, and he
saw my excitement. But he's like, time may not happen, maybe the
Saudi government, all these permissions, so I waited, and then
2014 He launched a book in London, which it comes, and I came to a
meeting, so he is impossible not to do the journey. He smiled, and
he just said, insha Allah, but that was it. So I thought, okay,
the invitation, not there yet. And then this last summer, he came,
and he did a book launch, second book, third work at the Prophet
Literature Festival. I asked him again, and he said, again,
Inshallah, I didn't impress it. And then, a few weeks later, his
son was in Scotland, they contacted me that my father would
like to meet you. And I met him in London. And we had a beautiful
dinner, an afternoon tea, and just beautiful to be in his company.
And I thanked him for his hospitality in his company. And
then I said to him, shake, thank you also for the opportunity for
maybe going on this trip. And it was at that point where he said,
You're welcome for all of this and 100 this, the little that we can
do to support you did for the programs. But in regards to the
invitation for the hijra, I didn't invite you.
So it was at that point, I kind of went quiet. And it was like,
and then picked up that, you know, Sheikh is trying to tell me
something here. So I should check. Is this
an invitation? Is this an opening? He said, Yes. You told me. I said,
When can we go? And he said February? And how people he gave
me specific instructions, 1213 people, I said, okay, because
don't open it up, just go on your own and experience it. And then
we'll talk thereafter, And subhanAllah that's how it all came
together. So a guide, an expert guide, I was working with Sheikh
Abdullah for all these years. During the research. He's based in
Medina, he has a team of people. So he took actually five, six
weeks before us.
For a few days, not the whole trip, Amanda would have seen and
some of the brothers that went from the United States. So they
met the same guy who did part of the journey with him. So from the
experience of speaking to Amanda wood, after he came back, we had
the extra luxury of knowing the do's and don'ts and how to best
prepare, because none of us have done the work at that level. But
what my request was to the chef's, Abdullah Managua is advices that
check, we're not really mindful of the cost. We want to just make
sure that we do it in the most authentic and traditional way as
possible, so that we can get that true appreciation. So his advice
was, after speaking to the guide, do it over over 12 days with one
rest in between, and you need to walk between 1213 kilometers to
buy 1819 kilometers a day. So you put that together. And so this
journey, give or take between 165 270 miles we walked at the end
Over the
course of 12 days with one rest day in between. So 100 It was just
Yeah, it was to go on about 12 miles a day. Pretty much more,
yeah, more than 14 miles a day. Yeah, there was a property a
timetable, we will start by latest aim to start by 5am Even that
could be later times. Because, again, you will know more than
myself, you know, the narration of Dr. Seuss has been talking about
the benefits of walking in the night. And when you walk in the
night and how he expands time and, and you cover more distance and
the baraka to that. So a few of the nights, we did work early one
hour for Fudger. And we ended up probably doing three times more
the journey in that one hour, then one hour after fajr. Just
automatically, there's just a different intensity in Baraka in
that one hour. So we would be on the road by 435 o'clock every day,
and finished by one 130 by the horn everyday because after that
point, it was hot, even by where it was 3637 degrees is very, very
hot. So and it's not whether you kind of come in the afternoon and
then go to sleep, but you do need to hydrate and freshen up. So we
were fortunate. So the way we did our program was we have three
supportive vehicles, and they were carrying all of our luggage in our
suitcases. So we would just basically open up the tents when
we get there. Make sure we put our sleeping bags in our items inside
to keep them close. So you don't want any scorpions or any other
lizards and animals to go inside. Possibly in your tent, which is a
usual occurrence out there. Well, Hamdulillah we had our guide, we
had aways as you know very well who is now al Madani, you know,
he's out there, he's living in those environments. So he was
getting those westerns, acclimatized and said, Look, get
to grips with the, from the day three, as I mentioned, at that
point, we there was no mosques out there that you can stop or really
have a shower or freshen up. We were out in the desert. So when
you have to even go to the bathroom, you're doing it in the
desert. So there's an etiquette to doing this outside in the desert
and digging the hole and doing this anyway. So from that point,
you are really in the fitrah and the primordial state for me
personally, I mean, we I was I was having the conversation My brother
always a few days ago, because he said like, how do you guys feel
since you've been back? And I really believe for me, and
hamdulillah the blessings of Makkah Medina we know and you have
to visit those cities. But it'd be very difficult for me to not do
parts of this journey or if not all of the journey, when I next
inshallah have the invitation to come to the pleasant lands because
it really was a otherworldly for all of us. Because every day
you're this part of the cedar that are coming to live and breathe.
This guide was not only an expert in knowing the route, and like you
said, it's very good for question like how close were you and
beloved mentioned that there was areas where, okay, we can estimate
that we're walking now in the valley that our Susa Cinema
Center, Bobo Abubaker walked, but that valley could be a mile long
or three quarters of a mile. But then as we will get closer and
closer towards Medina, each day just got more intense and the
feeling and the emotions, because they would wake up and say, Okay,
now this very close family, or you're gonna go through this
particular area, or this creek or this turning, where it's seven
meters, eight meters or less. So that became a different shift was
experientially, you know, how many have you done so far?
Journey? First one, you didn't want? Oh, my, do you have any
photos for us?
Let's take a look at your pictures.
Alright, these appear to be all over different channels with Sam's
channel, other people's channel while we're loading that up, oh,
there's a video too. Interesting. Okay, while we're loading this up.
So you've done it with 12 people. So far, any. And there are three
cars. So I guess there's a car behind you and one ahead of you.
And maybe one somewhere in the middle? You know what, ship that
beautiful question the way we did it. We didn't want even the
vehicles close to us. So we took whatever we need from the vehicles
and we told them to drive into a distance that they far away from
us. And we would stop and meet them every two, three kilometers
if we need water, because we wanted to be in the terrain aware
of all of that as possible. You know, even when we were seeing
pylons, we were walking extra mileage, but not to walk close to
them because we don't want to get the energy from there. So once you
point the vehicles, we'll just say, look, take what you need.
You're not going to see it for the next two hours. Are we going to
meet you at this particular point? That's great. That's great. Did
you guys then cook every evening? No. Does they have the chef's so
our job was to load our luggage into the vehicle and get it ready
and start walking at five o'clock. They will have the chef whether
they will have a separate van as a generator. So where we can do our
electricity charge in the evening when we arrive at the campsite by
130 latest
Two o'clock, they will prepare lunch already in the major tent.
So they will prepare lunch. And then in the evening by 730, after
maghrib, we will then have evening dinner. So they would, we would
have light breakfast dates and water in the morning and some
zamzam and then we're on the road, so we don't really eat until the
journey is done the walk, which is so you walk from before Federa to
around the hood, and then the rest of the day is resting in the in
the campsite. Just to get the campsite freshening up if you're
lucky enough to find the mustard or hubbub when you go fresh it up.
Maybe if not, then yeah, yeah. And so it's not all desert, there are
parts where there's like towns and you can go to a masjid and pray
there and see people and go to a restaurant or something. No.
We passed like every type of terrain, you can imagine, you
know, those positive grassy fields, there was a lot of like
Rocky gravel areas, mountainous areas. You know, especially as you
get close to Medina, there's lava tracks, and we got to really see
those, there was a couple of days where we were walking through
proper sand dunes, you know, where a lot of the brothers just took
their shoes off and just walk because it was easier, you know,
to walk to the gym. So that was a really beautiful experience. And
especially because done Omar before and you visited Monica
Medina, and you know, you go on an aeroplane, you go to a nice
airport with air conditioning, and then you're in a train or you're
in a taxi and you go to a hotel and even the Haram it's, it's all
very clinical. Whereas this, you know, one of the primary
intentions for me was to just really get a taste of what it was
like, for every generation apart from house really, you know, we
have a Z. And this was really, you know, the test was was physical in
part, you know, in terms of the distance, but it was more so tough
on the knifes, like, you know, we were eating basic food that was
intentional. In a very basic food, you had a nice meal, at the end of
the day, we'd get rice and meat, rice and chicken, but, you know,
breakfast and lunch was very basic, you know.
And for me, it's one of the killer things was like you you don't this
big walk for the day and you're exhausted. And, and you know, you
know, back home, if you do a big walk or a big day, then you can
relax on the sofa and put your legs up and on. There was none of
that it was just, you're now lying on the rock floor. And it's
blazing heat, you know, 3736 degrees centigrade, that's 9697
Fahrenheit.
And there's no there's no respite in that sense, you know, and
although we had an easy in many ways, you know, we had, you know,
cars with big tanks of water, and, you know, they had food for us,
and they were carrying our tents. And obviously, the peroxide Salem
and Abu Bakr had it, you know, just multitude factors more
difficult, you know, like, the heat, it was summer we went, so
that was coming out of springtime, I think it wasn't getting the
summer. Right. So then the temperature was lighter on us.
And, you know, we had the vehicles and, you know, so we had some of
that difficulty. But the difficulty isn't the point, you
know, in, in one sense as well. And I know, I know, Oasis, and
some of the brothers, you know, they definitely have more capacity
to do more physically.
But and actually one of the, the nicknames that I got on the trip
was Buffalo Bill. Why? So so there's a backstory to this, in a
sense of what we're seeing first was, you and I are all friends for
a very long time. And I've known check on the law guardian and the
work that he's done on the Hijra route. And when he first mentioned
it to me at the end of last year, like I said, to me, I show I'll
come but I'll come you know, in the in the vehicle, I'll just be
in the cars. And that was my full intention, like, I will go in the
vehicle. So hamdulillah like, you know, six, seven years ago, I had
a really bad injury. I've ended up having 12 operations on my knees.
Up until the beginning of this year, I for the last five years, I
use a walking stick just to walk around. Surprise. To me, I was
like, Yeah, I'll get in the car Inshallah, I can just, you know,
you guys do the walk, and I'll meet you at the conference. And
we'll figure it out. And, you know, it just so happened
confluence of different things where
I was able to start sort of a very intense rehab and started working
on my fitness and whatnot. And, again, I had no intention
actually, I'm actually going on the trip until two weeks before I
you know, I live I'm from the UK, but I live in Cape Town now. And
my parents had come and visit and my wife had never been for
Morocco. So we just took the opportunity to, you know, have the
babysitting with my parents and me and my wife, you know, flew for
Umrah and it was her first time so I got to guide her through all of
that. And every time I've done Umrah, one of the you guys you
must know shakey Sham machmood
was a good friend of mine and my last one I did with him. And one
of the traditions that I I've always had
Is that when I get some time I'll sit in front of a camera. And I'll
just put my phone camera on and I'll shoot a video of the Kaaba
live. And I'll just send videos to all the people in my contacts like
a little, some Lego museum how're you doing? I'm here to cover we
can do for you and pretty well and your wife's well, and everyone's
good. And, you know, and just a nice little 30 seconds, one minute
videos to as many people as I can. You know, it's just nice. Someone
did it to me once I was randomly at work one day and I get a video
of the Kava. Hey, I'm making dua for you.
And just just so happened one of the two hours that kept making for
other people was no May Allah bring you hear to the Haram sooner
than you can ever expect. Subhan Allah. And then on the way back, I
was listening to that, listening to the lecture where they were
talking about the DUA and they made, you know, reminds me, you
know, that an angel, you know, you make a dua for someone in the
absence.
I mean, for you. And so So, you know, what seem hadn't done Oprah
for 12 years. And I didn't, literally two weeks before, and
then I'm back back in Cabo. And with no intention of two weeks ago
that I was going to be that amazing. Well, we have Malayaka in
the huddle, making draw, you're gonna be in a good position. 100
Let me ask you this.
While you're taking the walk,
I've I've driven not too many times, but sometimes in Yemen and
in Saudi through the desert going from city to city and I've seen
what stray camels Wilds camels, did you guys run into that?
Because that could be a problem.
Sometimes they're not they're very polite.
Always capitals, scorpions, tarantulas. Tarantulas wild, yeah.
Go ahead. occasion that we were climbing the mountain familiar to
live, which is a known area that the Prophet salallahu Alaihe Salam
had climbed. And it was one of the most dangerous days that we have
actually undertaken on this journey, because you're climbing
this really rocky mountain. And as you know that error means that
there are deep cavities, or deep, we could say, caves that are in
the mountain, and it's full of it, like the whole mountain is full of
it. So you would reach certain stages where there is an incline
like this. And there was nothing but just loose Rubble, wow. And
this huge stones and boulders that are inside the mountain. But some
of them, you don't know whether they're in any follow up to the
mountain in the ground, or grounded or not.
And we would walk across, and we would put our feet on, the money
would slip. And if you would slip, you would fall down the rest of
the mountain crazy. And it was literally like this. And it was a
really scary part of the journey. And we have managed to get past
this and got to the top of the mountain and we had immediate team
with us. And we were collecting, you know,
sort of footage and clips, so that we could make a documentary about
this entire journey so that other people could experience it with
us. Do you have a drone? I was given the I had a drone. So yeah,
I was a drone operator, right. So I flew my drone at the top of the
mountain. And out of nowhere, the drone because I saw some camels
and the groups that went ahead of me and we just saw some stray
camels, as you just asked. And they were literally at the vista
of the mountain. But I turned around and I saw these camels
walking along with the mountain peak. And I was like, I have to
get a shot of this right? Yeah. So I take the drone out, I fly right
under the camels actually got a really awesome shot and it reaches
over the mountain, you can see the entire view of what we had
climbed. And out of nowhere, the drone falls out of the sky. Oh, it
crashes. Now I'm panicking because this is like, you know, a $2,000
drone. But luckily, you know, the technology that we have, we had
the GPS location. So I had to go off the track, and maybe about a
quarter of a mile half a mile walk into the mountain to go find this
drone of track walking through the rocks. And because we have the GPS
location, so I'm following the GPS tracker, I managed to find the
journal hamdulillah with the footage still on there. It was one
of the best shots I've ever recorded in my life. I heard
walking into.
That sounds amazing. And I heard that walking in the desert,
sometimes can get eerie.
And sometimes it gets really interesting. I don't retrieve the
drone. Yeah, it's the only day that I'm not wearing crocs because
I was told if I did if I wore my crocs, they wouldn't let me come.
So I'm wearing hiking boots, and I feel something inside my shoe. Oh
here we go right in. So I decided to put the drone down and take my
shoe off and I find like a tarantula this day. It's right
inside my shoe. I have no idea how we got there.
So I reached into grab it by its leg as I went to grab it by its
leg, it's going to grab me so I grabbed it by his leg and just
pulling it out. Wow. And I'm like, like a fuzzy tarantula because I
looked at it.
Because we had an experience the night before we were praying
the inside of the food of one of our staff members, and one of our
guys goodness is actually the chef as well. So we're talking about
brain
hygiene, fuzzy tarantula, like National Geographics type.
We were, we were behind. Yeah, we liked him. Subhanallah it was
meant to be praying behind the more of Kenyan share was meant to
be an expert on the Sierra guide in this named
Sheikh, Mohammed, Maddy. And he kept on insisting turn off the
lights, I want to pray Maghrib in the dark. And so we turned off all
the lights for some reason I did. This is a blessing from Allah, our
media guys put the camera down. And while he's put the camera
down, he's the last person to join the salon. His lights turned on.
So all of a sudden there's a light, just one light turning up
towards the chef. So I'm starting the foot road away. So obviously
he's got four years of training. This is me day after like a week.
I'm like looking at the six feet and I see a big fuzzy triangular
rolling around the feet. And I'm like, am I see the six so now all
of a sudden he's coming towards me. I pause for a moment and then
he comes closer then all of a sudden I don't know my feet I
doing the Irish dance.
And then we actually went down as we said to the end of our row went
up the thought of motors who was our chef beautiful Syrian brother
from Hull up just amazing smile from Medina. When a pistol bit him
in the stomach. He said he squeezed it. Thought he killed it,
let it go. It fell on the floor and then stubbed his foot but he
didn't break salah. He finished his salah. He turns around and he
just walks over and he's like picking up the big dish. So he
starts making the rice and I'm like Matos you've got not well
looking at him. And he had blood all over his throat and he's like,
It's fine. Don't worry about it. And highlight Yeah, we saw
trencher like a couple of times over these. You know, we started
seeing scorpions and different animals we saw chameleons in the
middle of the desert camels we rode camels as well, mashallah we
monitored to opportunity to ride some camels. So like Bella
mentioned, we were able to experience all these different
terrains. And then when you're connecting it to significant
episodes of the Sierra, so like, Okay, now we're in the valley of
Omaha. Like, honestly, without exaggeration from that day, I
don't think I slept three days, it was tripping the energy of
homework, but I was like a greyhound just running around if
there was something special animonda Who did say because
everything started 10 Turning the energy will be different from a
map but and so on that bird was a powerful experience. jofa, like
beloved mentioned, was a very powerful experience, because as
you know, from the Sierra, it made it more powerful for us. Because
when you listen to the narration from the guide and explaining the
saying, up to the point of Jaffa, our social life sort of never
looked back.
He just kept going towards Medina. And so he didn't look back out of
fear, or who's behind him or any of those worldly, he looked back
because he truly missed MK and his heart yearned, And subhanAllah
when you're and you know, I had my moments when you're the ayah that
we know that was revealed to the Sousa salam to give them respite
and consoled him, that was a powerful moment for us. Because
also, you know, when you're connected to that swing, like
inland as the farther I like, I'll go on that Dukkha Illamasqua.
Like, at that moment, you know, like your heart. You know, it just
momentarily we're trying to feel how our processor would have felt
after days of walking to this point, and not looking back. And
then synergy really just coming. And we're like they belong much.
We're thinking while we are here, we're in this spot. And from that
moment, we will starting to walk inland. And as you will,
that the terrain, the environment, the volcanoes SWANA we were seeing
prophecy that will destroy our own ways to mention about this, but he
told us on the journey, he lived there. We started seeing green
meadows, water
you know, things up ourselves, as I mentioned would be at the end of
time, but they were not there a few years ago, but you know,
he's like 18 months ago, two years ago, they were there. The guide
said that I've never seen these before a certain parts of the
journey we started seeing the Falken just follow us on the
hijra, is like a bulldozer flying on top of us achieve real things.
Let me ask you a question. Describe for me z. Describe for
me, a lava tract we all know we all know the word love attract.
It's always related to the Battle of God. But I think that we all
read it and nobody really knows what a lot of attract is. So what
is the difference? What is exactly a
Love attracts waste.
So the lava tracks are when, when a volcanic eruption has occurred.
The place that the lava flows
on the terrain,
it ends up settling and becoming this really jagged, really rough
and difficult terrain. The Rock hardens the larval, that's what it
is, and it goes down and become like almost different shapes and
forms of rocks, which can be really difficult to travel on. And
what's interesting is, as we were walking, I was showing some of the
brothers that you know, we were picking up some of these lava
rocks and because it's love and they become very porous, and when
they become very porous, you've got this huge boulder of a rock,
but it has no weight to it. Right? However, if you could literally
throw it in the air like a tennis ball,
there was a video that we did on this where I'm showing them how
light the rock is actually bought one of them hang with me just for
the memory. But the lava tracks are where the lava had flowed.
Okay and Medina is surrounded by lava and the areas of whether the
areas of worthy the salami, which we know from crossing the crossing
the border of Imam Hussain is the first line opening line where he
says, I'm into that Khaleeji run in busy salami, right. It's all
love attracts and it's all lava flow. And Saudi Arabia is a
terrain that is majorly built up of volcanic
sediment.
And it's a very, very difficult terrain to actually travel in. And
you know, from the story ahead, like you mentioned already, the
Prophet salallahu Alaihe Salam had chosen a spot in Medina to base
the army because he knew that the enemies could not travel over the
lava tracks, so they had to travel between a particular terrain that
would lead them to the battleground with no today as
well. So it's it there's many different types of lava tracks, we
actually had one of the friends of Dr. Abdullah Kagi come and join us
on a second trip that I did because after I finished this a
few days later, I walked by that as well for five days. And he came
and he explained to us the different types of lava tracks and
the different types of lava and the different types of volcanoes
and the different terrain that it creates and how you can identify
them. Let's go to the pictures. We got a lot of pictures and brothers
start digging in. This is looks like the real thing Maria's
Italian kitchen, wonderful duck brothers diggin take a drink and
then take a slow
Shamsul bow
Oh
another Instagram
it looked Yeah, well next one we have Yes. So we did about eight we
had about eight of these videos produced while still on the trip.
So you can check them out on on Instagram. And you can follow like
every couple of days we had a nice update. We have them here we have
them all here.
Yeah.
Go
Hello, my name
is
Leon
Goodman's saw me I will stop
brother
Now even the province of Lausanne let me look
at the move from
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Radar
Radar and you remember that the process the numbers literally like
being pursued by assassins you know so like when he makes a map
but you read description Oh
exhausted, tired smelly, you know any of the process and I'm still
impeccable in his presentation on a second character hold on we're
playing these videos
next one oh man I don't know you guys don't see you if you open
your phones if you decide to YouTube you'll see what we're
playing right now.
We're playing your videos so we were playing videos I think and
you were talking and you guys didn't realize me yeah I thought
the talking was coming from the video sorry about that. My
apologies. All right. Oh, my next video
This footage is amazing.
Alright, let's see these pictures now. Yeah,
here we go, Salam Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuhu day
five in the beautiful valley of Omar. But this is probably the
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Yeah. Nice.
Really amazing footage. I'm Ron has something to say.
Just a quick question for me. What kind of preparation did you do
ahead of this? I mean, it's obviously a very gruesome kind of
challenge physically as well as mentally but did you have any
preparation ahead of doing this? Or did you just go freestyle? No
preparation. So one, you obviously have to purchase your own
equipment and certain items to take individually. So we have a
list that's given to us by the guide of bags and walking gear and
that kind of stuff. Secondly, naturally is important that you
got to be in reasonably good shape, you know, Belaz, Marshal
anomaly who comes in on walking sticks and goes walking on his
feet. But that's not, you know, that's down to whatever happens on
the journey, but we have to best prepare. So we need people who are
going to go on the journey who were at least walking, five, six
months actively before they go on a journey like this. So because
the work is it's gruesome is intense, as always mentioned as
areas where
you're often walking in sacred silence, even during the day,
there's an airiness to that. So with the heat element, you have to
be physically fit. That's very important.
And thirdly, I think it's also very important for someone to do
this journey, naturally is going to be out of love. And so when
you're doing love and connection, then you need to just up your
level of knowledge and connection to the Sierra as much as you can
learn from teachers and really understanding because without
having a good grasp of the understanding of the sea that you
can't fully appreciate when you're on that journey. Like one of my
dear brothers went on the journey for the OMA for the first time for
the gangs.
He he personally listened to Sheikh Ibrahim OCFS
series series and he said to me on the journey to all of us because
that was a game changer for him because without that read deep
understanding of the Sierra and connection to the stories it is
going to life. I remember he was half asleep in the valley of
Soraka. If all the brothers remember and as soon as our day
guide, I was sharing the story of the of South Africans and this is
the actual area that the individual tried to assess the
process Solomon the story that happened there. Through his sleep,
he woke up in his audition story. So I want to connect to that is
brought to life. So I think it's really important physically to
prepare, and also to spiritually connect to classes and knowledge
with your teachers. And that's how you're going to fully appreciate
the journey because those 12 days they go very, very quick and
they're very intense. I'm gonna go next to Bill Allah wanna hear
The most memorable story he had from from this journey, but first
I'm gonna say, tell everyone that that area of Soraka I think you
called it the Valley of Soraka is so important because that's one of
the most important moments of the prophets migration. When the
Meccans put a bounty on his head for 100 camels, it's a lot of
money. Even today's day and age, it's a lot of money.
A man from outside of Quraysh Nan Qureshi, just
an Arab that's completely neutral. He just wants the money.
And he found the Messenger of Peace be upon him, he caught up to
the Prophet peace be upon him. Abu Bakr Siddiq, the great companion
would look back. But the prophet as always said he had a moment he
would not look back at all.
He was not looking back at all. So raucous horse began to fall into
the ground, and almost he was stuck.
So, ultimately, the Prophet peace be upon him struck a deal with
Soraka to stay quiet, not say where they are, and to turn back
and just walk home. Provide what was the deal the Prophet peace be
upon him said I will give you the bracelets that the Persian king is
now wearing
Majan how much golden jewelry and Soraka accepted it. What does that
tell you? It tells you he believes that he can he can myth Muhammad
says that it's gonna happen even though he was not a Muslim. So
raka
leaves the Sierra is not mentioned again in the Sierra for the entire
life of the prophet peace be upon him. The entire reign of Abu Bakr
Siddiq entire reign of Alma until all might have been a hot dog
conquerors now we're talking about 30 years later, conquers Persia 10
years of Abubaker 10 years of the Prophet in Medina two years, Abu
Bakr, that's 12 years, then let's say halfway into the reign of
Oman, that's like 17 years. So rock has now an old man and he
writes a letter almond receives a letter in the mail. He said here
in it is the contract between me and the messenger peace be upon
him. I am owed these bracelets, and the prophesy centum said, you
will receive them and you will give them away. Because how can
the prophets I seldom sell somebody or give somebody gold
bracelets when it's haram for a man to wear gold? Right? So the
Prophet peace upon him said you will wear it, you will take them
you will wear it, and then you will give it away. So raka had not
yet entered Islam was waiting for the proof.
The proof of Prophethood for him, was this deal.
Soraka received them wept, an Arab conquering is this as if me
promising you. I'll give you a room in the White House. I'll give
you an office in the White House. What do we have to do with the
White House we're like light years difference between the ways things
are now and ever having access to the White House.
He wore them. He wept. He took the Shahada. And now as a Muslim, he
can't wear gold. We could have given it to a woman but he gave it
in charity.
That's why the Valley of Soraka is so important. Right? Because a
major part of the theater right there. Waste. Do you want to
comment a little more on that?
Yeah, the story of sadaqa is amazing, because, as you mentioned
is there was a very small subtlety here that Satan Abu Bakr Siddiq
kept saying to the prophets, Allah lesson that this man is
approaching us and the Prophet sallallahu alayhi salam wouldn't
turn back he wasn't concerned. Right? And it's an element of
Tawakkol and contentment in the decree of Allah, that we can learn
from the prophets of Allah. So and because the prophets Allah Salam
didn't fit. Allah has said in the Quran, that do not think that the
Olia are free, they they only they're afraid and nor shall they
agree. And this is the messenger of allah sallallahu sallam. He
didn't turn around and say nobody said, Yo, but he's approaching
this man who is approaching with the prophets. Allah Islam was not
concerned Satan Abu Bakr Siddiq was concerned, but the prophets
Allah said and told him, don't worry.
And every time he will try to come forward, his his camera would see.
And it's it's an element that we that we often forget that the
Prophet salallahu Salam had this immense fortitude, even in the
eyes of his enemies, that he wouldn't say that no guarantee of
Allah is a literally it's a guarantee. If Allah gives you a
guarantee, you have nothing to worry about.
There it reminds me of a story of one of the SATA Hain he had a he
had a
car or he had, it was something that he had very valuable that he
had to leave.
And no one was there to guard it. And he said, Oh Allah, I place you
as the guardian of this car.
because he was forced, his hands were tied, he could not take it
with him. He went in,
he came back. And he had with him a friend, and a relative and his
son as well. And there was no car car was gone.
And he said, and then they were like, just couldn't believe it.
The man said, however, he said, I'm not worried.
They just took two steps. A security guard came and said,
Yeah, I saw your car here. I moved it for you. So no one hits. You
said we asked a lot to protect it. He protected it from thieves and
from someone who had bumped into it, I have no worry about it. So
why not share a jeep? Right, yeah, Jeep. And the reason was that they
couldn't shut it shut it off. Because the key was with somebody
else, you know, one of those situations. I don't know if
everyone knows this. But when you have those, the key is separate
from the car. Right? If you shut the car off, you're stuck.
So it was one of those situations where they were stuck in two ways.
They didn't have the key. If they shut the car off, they're stranded
and the car is not moving. And then they had to all exit and go
some somewhere. Really quick, amazing. Subhan Allah.
When people trust in Allah, that's 100% absolute trust. Last
question. Let's go to
bed as your most memorable moment of the trip.
Well, you know, just on that story of Soraka and one of the things
which was so amazing for us on this trip was, you know, many of
us know the story of Soraka. But we were sitting with that story
for the whole day. And what was the beauty of this, you know,
hijra, you know, like, we understand the Sierra as the
marquis era and the madness era. And the Hijra is like its it has
its own Syrah its own story. It's like the bazaar, it's the
interspace between Makkah and Medina, more people became Muslim,
during those two weeks, that the process was on the hijab and the
entire period of Makkah. And there's a beginning a middle and
the end. And you know, when always mentioned that, you know, Abu Bakr
was fearful, his fear was only for the process alone. And, and part
of the process that limbs
you know, being strong and not not having that fear. Part of the
wisdom of that was to allay the fears of a worker, you know, and
this is beautiful. You know, a lot of the trips were reflecting on
the relationship between Abu Bakr and the province of Salem. And I
also wondered like, how much of this of this of the Hijra do we
not know? You know, if you're going on a trip your wife and
you're traveling for days on end, or your best friend, and you're
going to tell someone a story about it, you will tell them the
highlights, but the most intimate the most beautiful moments is
going to be between you him and Allah Subhan Allah so you know, so
and we felt that especially in the value of the Salah, you know, it
was phenomenal, it was the tiny Valley those will be walked for
about four or five kilometers there was there was essentially
these special trees they called the Salem Salem tree literally
because they assylum all of the trees were bent over in in Rocco,
all of the trees were bent over an hour as I asked the guide which
way is the Qibla every single tree was perfectly
sure that the trip the profit center would have walked straight
so he's walking directly towards Medina Maca is directly behind him
all of these trees are literally doing sujood and and when we walk
through it felt like this royal procession and then we had our
brother Ali killer mashallah from Alfredo's ensemble and he sang
that line on the border I mean that the Quran MBD sellin the
salami This is the valley the Salem this the value of salaam
because of the Salem trees and you know it just becomes so alive and
so so three dimensional. So just on the point the the one of the
best moments for me we haven't mentioned
is the story of operator
Ibn Al Hussein who
who was the leader of his tribe knew that the process there was a
booty on him but he wanted to figure out who's who's this man
for myself and the whole conversation the whole hadith is
incredible and in so so he rocks up with his at some people said
100 Men amongst amongst him and he's the leader and he as he
approaches the process I'm in Abu Bakr
you know you can imagine that scenario you got massive crowd and
then there's two people and yet the whole Hadith the Prophet SLM
is in control of that conversation. The Prophet says,
Who are you?
And then he says, I'm Barreda and the processor responds to it
amazing. He doesn't respond to Beretta he responds to Abu Bakr
because our workers worried about the safety of the profit. So,
instead of addressing Beretta directly, he addressed several
bucklins as part of the Umrah Na, our affair he played he does this
beautiful world play on the name of Barreda
And you can just imagine like this is a tribal leader is like a
political diplomatic standoff. And the prophet is it with this
beautiful wordplay in both showing Barreda like he's in control, he's
not fearful. He's showing this master Master Master communicator
at the same time, he's Alain de Feasel of Abu Bakr. So there's
like all these layers to his conversation and that's how he
answered firstly and then then he says, you know, what tribe are you
from? And he says, We are from the tribe have helped me out which
tribe was the tribal
Aslam and he says, exactly, and then he says, our affair has been
made easy.
So, you can he plays on the name, the track the name of the tribe,
and then he asked him about his clan and then he plays on the name
of the clan, which is related on arrow I think.
And this composition separate.
Yeah, Beretta becomes wisdom, every single of the men amongst
him become Muslim, and each of them are the heads of their own
household and they all become Muslim in just one conversation.
So, for me, that was just incredible like the hymn of
empathy when you think about Makkah, and in the context of what
they're fleeing persecution, loss of, of their wealth, property,
family, and, and yet he has this one encounter, and all of a sudden
hundreds become become Muslim, at his hands.
Amazing and so as never to lose that hope. You know, things can be
looking so down amazing. And the process and always, always, always
looking at the big picture. So yeah, that was really powerful.
Really amazing. You mentioned Yeah.
I think it's also important to me, this, this this whole trip, you
know, there's a Hadith of the Prophet sallallaahu Salam where
there was a jar of honey that's presented in front of him and the
prophets, Allah Islam as a companion. What is this my father,
and the companion says, this is Honiara. Sula, the Astra, another
companion, they say it's honey jasola. And unseasonally walks in
and he opens the jaw, dipped his finger and tastes it and said,
it's honey jasola. And then the Prophet sallallahu sallam said
that the one who tastes knows, there's an element of this entire
journey. That was actually experiential. You know, there's a
knowledge that you learn, there's a knowledge that you see, can you
learn and you study, you gain knowledge, but then there's an
experiential knowledge. You know, we mentioned earlier that we would
often travel in the middle of the night before tahajud, even. And
it felt like, you know, we had traveled traveled just a short
distance, but in actual fact, we had covered kilometres, and a lot
of kilometres. And this is back to the Hadith of the prophets of
Allah, where he said to us that at nighttime the road contracts,
right, the road contracts at nighttime. I don't know if you've
ever been on a journey at night, whenever you're traveling back
from a journey, and it's the nighttime, the journey back at
night always feels shorter than the journey on the way there.
And this is based on the profits from the lows, and I'm saying that
the road contract so we experienced these things that the
Prophet salallahu Salam had taught us and told us on this journey,
and a huge element of this journey was experiencing what the prophets
of Allah al Islam had experience. We did this journey in the middle
of winter with the Prophet salallahu Alaihe Salam did this
journey in the peak of summer.
And we were struggling, amazing, amazing. And we had the facilities
and amenities and you know, things that made it very easy for us and
the prophets of Allah Islam didn't have that it was him and Satan,
Abu Bakr Siddiq, there will be points that they would have to
find shade under a rock and sleep under that and go out and seek
food and look for shepherds so that they could drink just a
little bit of milk just to satiate themselves. So it's important to
mention the experiential side of this entire journey. This hedger
because it was a huge it offers all and the profits and loss and
um, you know, you mentioned that your Hijra is what you make the
Hijra for you make Hegira for the sake of Allah and so then that's
what you will get if it's for a woman.
All right, tell us when is the next journey took away what David
came for, what the intention was for, and there's no doubt that
with a group like ours, every single person in that group was a
lover. And we all went for we did this journey for the sake of Allah
and His gospel SallAllahu sallam, and at the end was the great price
to make the era and his MACOM Ali Abdullah philatelists
when is the next trip
inshallah final days yet to be confirmed, but we're looking at
hopefully Inshallah, January 2025. All right, and so next January,
Inshallah, you're aiming for that and what's the website?
We're gonna say everything. Oh, so we're going to do that.
like West mentioned we are going to this is our first program that
we've done actually with yourself. We're doing a slideshow on a
documentary release this summer where we can't advise where yet
because we have to hold up but as soon as that's done, then
inshallah we're going to have the website and details of where
people can work and the trip dates and that kind of stuff inshallah
because a group like this 100 You can't really have more than
one two people per group, you know, to really do it well. So
yeah, we're looking at possibly doing a couple of visits next year
from from January onwards, Inshallah, before Ramadan. Montez,
very good. All right. Good. Does that come with? Oh, good. And
thank you all very much for coming on.
It very impressive what you're doing and may Allah Tada give you
success until
last question, Can kids go with you?
Yeah,
I would, it is gonna be tough. It'll be you know, there's parts
of this journey where, you know, it's Yeah, I would really
recommend adults at this stage. I would youngest I will go is
probably like, 1617. I've got so many really in good shape. That
someone within the company adult younger than that, not really
recommended, because it's yeah, I can speak to individuals offline.
But the level of weaknesses and training and spiritual know how
just to appreciate the journey, it's important to have mostly
adult social. Thank you brothers very much for coming on terrain,
you know, some of the
say get harsh terrain. Yes. Very harsh, very harsh terrain. It's a
very harsh terrain. And it can be very difficult actually,
especially with, you know, all of the different elements and the
being animals and potentially poisonous scorpions and tarantulas
and spiders, and comedians and lizards, snakes, even a mom that
would see when they did the journey, they saw snakes.
So for that reason, we wouldn't advise that children made the
journey because of the element of risk involved in the many of us, I
mean, I've been to Mauritania, and it doesn't get much harsher them
all the time. Yeah, they were, they were points in the journey
that we were walking, and I would have seven or eight phones about
this big has impaled the bottom of my foot through my shoe. So
we have these things into consideration. So I'll be picking
those out. So for the children, I wouldn't advise at this point. But
we have some good news that the the government is actually going
to commission to have the route
made in a way that people can actually experience it themselves
and they will be facilitation for that especially at the main points
are where the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam had stopped on
the way so inshallah we hope that in the very near future, that
there will be facilitation for that. Inshallah. Montez thank you
all very much. Does that cool? Okay, Ron, and when the movie is
out when the when the video is out, and sha Allah will will show
it here. Thank you all very much. Does Aquila. Thank you for your
time. Our pleasure. My pleasure.
All right, there you have it folks. Wonderful Initiative, a
really amazing initiative that hopefully we could do it. We could
do this. It takes about I think you have to take two weeks off
work right? It take two weeks off work and do ombre, then you're
gonna go there on the hydro walk, then spend some time in Medina and
then you're off. So it's probably take two weeks off work. Jama
three weeks off work. Okay. So 12 days, just the journey plus you're
gonna take some time they're in both cities, so it's really good
for college kids to do. And people were able to take three weeks off.
All right, where is Chef Matt to hear?
No contact where he's waiting for us.
Oh, you never contacted him? Subhanallah should
know No, I said that we he's he's scheduled but
let me let me message him then.
Yeah.
Let me get you his number. You can start texting him, showing them.
Okay. All right, we're gonna take a question real quick question
that comes up quite often, which is what do I do if I break an oath
with Allah subhanaw taala? And the answer to that is first of all, we
have to make sure you made it in the oath was correct in the first
place. You swear an oath by Allah subhanaw taala not by anyone else.
You swear an oath by anyone else. It's not it's not valid on your
sinful good. It's not valid and you're sinful. We don't
it's not valid and you're sinful. If you swear an oath by other than
Allah smiles I have to make taupe. You swear an oath ingest right in
just this is one of the things where the jest of it does not
count.
Against you oats, unlike divorce and marriage, right, so for
example, says, you know, listen you
Well, I'm gonna come tomorrow as someone who's always saying, well,
Allah He constantly, those oats are not taken. But it's the oath
that is a serious oath. And some have have categorized that under a
level. Low Mala who believe we feel a mannequin a level, a level
is an incorrectly done oath. And it also has been said, the one who
was just sort of saying well lie as an as an emphasis, not actually
an oath. But if one has made a serious oath,
and then he broke the oath.
Remember, remember, there's two ways to break those. There's an
oath to do something and an oath to avoid something, take an oath
to do something and by by a certain time and you don't do it,
you broken it, take an oath, never to do something and then you do
it. You did it. Right, then you've broken it. So
no, not those that well, those outs the other the Oath of
Citizenship is if it's an oath by Allah accounts.
Okay? So they say, Okay, I swear to God, that you're going to obey
the law, or I swear to God, or you swear to god, you're going to be
allied to this country? Right? You swear it?
Yeah, those are serious. It's not a joke.
Hold on, right, because you have no mic, so you can't talk because
nobody else can hear you.
Next one is what happens if you break the oath, if you break the
oath, now you have three options, and Two are better than the third.
The first one is to feed it arm wash out artemesa Kena minute
Muslimeen to feed 10 Poor Muslims.
Mud, one would have food all right by the mud of the Prophet
sallallahu Sallam which is like two handfuls like this. Okay? And
if you increased over it just to be safe as better such as a third
or even a half, okay? And that is you feed them from what is of the
middle level of value in their country, for example, you don't
feed them very cheap food nor very expensive food. So it's not you're
not going to necessarily feed them something that would be extremely
expensive nor something very cheap something in the middle of the
food. Go ahead
can you use the word kill?
Yes, you can do or you can use something called our kill in
agents, provided you're certain that this agent fulfills the job
right? As long as this agent is known and trustworthy for
fulfilling the job. So yes, you can use a middleman give him the
money and he goes fulfills it.
And so woman aka more than adequately if you just did a moody
suffices, okay, or you can close them. You can a man can be
clothed, you can give him a man to cover his torso and up to hit past
his knees Allah is
that garment is sufficient 10 Poor Muslims or with a woman, it's
going to be everything including up to her wrists and a hijab.
Okay? And if you cannot do any of that, then you fast three days in
a row. Okay, but even if you break between the days and you broke
your fast, you fasted then broke your fast and fast it again, it's
so suffices for you, but it's better to fast them in a row.
Now, what if you absolutely know for sure that you're going to, to
break your oath, you can do it in advance. You can pay you can
fulfill the Kafala in advance, so that let's say, I swore that I
would never enter so and so's house again.
And now I changed my mind my heart softens and he apologized and I'm
okay and I didn't put conditions. I said walleye oxen will be loved.
This is a series Oh, I've never entered his house again. Then he
comes in apologizes and we make up and we're all friends again.
Right?
Pay expert no expert in advance of going you could do that.
All right, we have in the second guest we said today that we are
covering the three sacred
places, three sacred mosques and here we are at a quotes
and of course this is actually not a liquids on the cover.
This is this is the Dome of the Rock.
Okay, this is the Dome of the Rock but it's on the compounds. All of
this compound is sacred and let's go to shape from antilock Mr. Mala
the father? Oh
not much Rahmatullah. Oh my Oh, my camera angles. Okay. My
microphone. Perfect. You're a veteran.
Of course, as you all know, runs our Arabic program. Huh?
Omar Why don't we take a moment here to plug in our Arabic
program.
This is just not Chemin de matches Arabic program is online. But this
is the summer Arabic intensive. We already have seven signups.
Tuition is basically free, it's 350 bucks for tuition, classes
four times a week, three in person one online,
go to Facebook marketplace and get a rental apartment for some of the
students who are not going to be here in the summertime. And this
also comes with all the other things so you can attend the live
stream every day. You attend the vicar nights with us. You attend
our all of our outings and even there's some sports that's done
there a Frisbee football, all sorts of stuff that's done to make
a holistic, it'll be a great summer overall. It's not just
going to be the Arabic classes on that set. You have everything else
that comes with being part of the NBI see New Brunswick Islamic
center and Safina society, environment and orbit. And we've
done the classes at night because if you work online, you could keep
working online in the daytime, and then attend the classes at night.
So it's really made for that and just go into Facebook marketplace
and find yourself an apartment. And we're also going to try to
help out find people place to stay for the summertime. Alright, let's
get back to shake Maddie. She made he tell us about this beautiful
booklet that is now on sale through NOAA publications
handled through the law. So this book, came my way
in December humbly gave December in the UK because obviously we
know that the current situation has which we've spoken about this
started back in October.
So beginning of December, one of my Arabic students here in
Bradford, he contacted me
and he asked about doing a talk on this in Bradford when the machines
when the bigger machines and Bradford with that will check us
wrong Michigan's Farshid.
So we agreed, I mean, we that was what was agreed. But that for me,
as I said an introduction, I was my first time thinking about doing
a public talk but not actually having a book.
So I thought that's kind of interesting. I'll just do my
research just from studying.
And then it was third July, the dean of our books, he contacted me
the next day completely just randomly and just say what you
think about his book, can you just send it to me as a PDF?
In my mama's lady's book on the rank of oak woods, so I said fine,
let's do this, this is perfect. So
so I put everything aside and I just worked hard towards getting
the first draft done on that month. So the first draft was
basically done before the event.
So I had humbly lots of material to talk about the importance of
Philistine importance of old codes.
In Mombasa Haley, Mashallah. If people don't know, I mean,
absolutely. copious writer.
And another giant of the absolute giant, fluffy chef, a
chef you think?
And that's it. Mr. thirty's both that he says are for how the chef
he's but he wrote, obviously, he's big massive compared to fit book
the
fitness line with the little room. And I think that that the final
version of that is called a more sous
chef, I think with its evidence. Not it's all for comparing it when
you said yes, you compare it. Yes. So the first the first one is
called the simplest thing we did it too. But I think the final
version is called up is the Missoula which I have,
which was about 14 volumes. One volume is all
the indexing and Pendency and stuff like that, but it's just
very, very copious and he did write as mentioned introduction,
he did write
what do you call it a affic Made Easy series or simplified fix. So
he wrote a fifth book in every method SubhanAllah. So you have a
single shaft when we saw the fiddlehead if you mean so high G.
Right. When he meant that, I think the Hanafi one is longer. It's
like maybe it's like maybe three or four volumes. One of them is
super long, but each one is at least two volumes. What what is
your what is the medical one called fic al Maliki on me
assault. IG.
Follow me so and I've had Maliki's, I've had Maliki's
recommend that book to IG. I got to look down. When I say like is
there is there a simple book of alcoholic I can read this. So
yeah, get this one buddy. My wife was reading so he's very well
respected and he's very he's very, very well respected especially in
the field of law school. Also effect he's an absolute giant and
also
because he has one book on the full
also ficlet salami.
And then he also has with GS virgin version that was taught. I
mean, I remember was when I was in Fez
that was taught in Halloween, like my teacher said that he forgot he
told me about other teams. They're teaching a book in the Halloween
because just the value of that book.
So to have him address this issue, and then he also he also is very,
very clued up on
you know, manmade law and international law, these kinds of
things. He's very easy. He's very clued up on that he did, I think
she actually did a degree in it. And I'm Seamus University, if
memory serves me correctly.
And there's there's a video there's a video but then the SEMA
Shan people did in in Damascus, this is the mission website. Oh,
one of their big shifts if you haven't asked him.
He's interviewed and he says, he says he Manuel was a havy. Like,
like, because he was known he could he could write maybe 18
hours a day. It's upon Allah.
Amazing. So so he would say that, you know, I would go to the mecca
of a ball hit in Damascus, I bump into him there. And and he would
say to me, Oh, could you just get some books together for me on the
topic of, you know, freedom of speech or something like this. So
I'd go around and I gather the sources for him and I given to him
and then two months later, he's got a book out Subhanallah on that
topic, Jeep, Jeep, so that's that's that's that was that was
his mom so so people saw what I what I've gathered from my
contacts in Damascus, they say about him because he was very
close to mobile to mobile Bulte.
So people give give them like, these nicknames is OB so they say
like your mama booty. They say he was like the Ghazali. He was like
thinking about the Imam Ghazali type figure. Whereas my mom was
Haley. He was like javelina, so Yogi SubhanAllah. Yeah, right now,
isn't he? He's just the copious writer just writing books on every
single topic under the sun and he wasn't a lecturer. Was he? Yeah,
he was a lecturer as well. He was also a lecturer and he also
managed to find on private lecture, public lectures on
private lectures. He was a so he gave a lot of lectures. Yeah, he's
a professor in Damascus. But he's not like him all Bulte. Like you
don't find videos with me everywhere. Yeah, right. Yeah. Not
so in that way. He's not like a copious or a prolific speaker.
That's everyone like it's all of these different multiple things.
He has he has something like 17,000 hours of recorded material
somehow, right? Different words amazing. My mom says I like that
name. It's in the books. So but he his key or his like I was getting
like his service was
one of the better word he said it was time management. Like he was
known to be very, very meticulous was never missed a lecture he was
never late. And then he always had like his set tasks every day that
he got those done and that's how he was mechanical. Yeah, exactly.
So he achieved just an amazing amount and people are people are
saying because again,
people kind of like to argue especially people I mean,
unbelievers like to say okay, how did your own a man in the past?
Yeah, white such copious works? How did you have someone lucky
moment? No, we had you'd have something almost just like you
don't have to look at it, then just look at it.
That's true. Same one who want one man once said that he was a Hafez
of Quran, but he never believed that people could recite the whole
Quran in one evening. And he said, and he never believed it for
years. He said these stories are just exaggerations.
And
one day, he said, you know, let's try it. So he got one of him and
his friend and they started do clever Lael, after I shot, and
they did the first Raka. In the first record, they finished seven
students in the first raka Oh, wow. And he said, I knew right
away, then it's doable, right? It's doable, and they finished it.
They finished the whole Quran in one night. So people who have that
they
want to do something over and over you get in such a groove that your
output is amazing. Let's talk about his booklet here now.
What is exactly the spiritual rank of advocates and its relevance to
Muslims, although the patriarchs and matriarchs that surrounds
advocates, were not from the line of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi
wa sallam nor do we follow them. So why is it that it's
us has a special rank with us? Because while as Imam points out,
I think that number one on the list would be the fact that it is
the is our first Qibla and it is the place of the Estrella Mountain
Lodge. This is where the mesh philosophy Saddam was taken on
that night journey and he went into the heavens and he was given
the command to pray and he led the middle the province and led the
province in prayer. And
on top of that, when the Muslims came back later under under Satan
Ahmad landable. The Muslims established it as
dial this lamb and off were set up and we always leave it was we have
always acknowledged that codes
This is
the third of a hot domain. That's next expression, these narrative
data the huddle domain are surely thing right. So it's the third of
the two holistic sanctuaries, meaning it is the third
holiest place in Islam. This is our MACOM. So what So what in my
mind was a daily shows? From the text always from from, from what
we call the view, the religious perspective, obviously yes that
this is this is sacred to us this is against surplus or all this
what the law says there is the beginning, this is the land that
Allah has blessed all the land around us when it when he took his
slave from on the night journey from from natural acts or
from the Michigan nicotinic to the national axon, which at that point
was called, right, it doesn't really exist at that point. Right.
But I was calling before this message. And the key thing about
that, is that or takeaway from the IEA is a law is calling before
this message. Yeah, right, he's not calling it the foreign
message, you're gonna say the farthest mesh, there must be three
messages, at least that you're talking about. So that's, that's
a, that's an indirect reference to a message number we
write ahead of time, obviously, ahead of time. So that is all very
clear to us. But when he also talks about is historically to
refute some of these arguments that design has put forward, which
is showing that the first people who settled there or built that
area were the Canaanites, right. And these are people from the
reign of Intuit, these are originally Arabic people.
So he says that the Arabs have
have been set unsettled, and have ruled that land for the vast
majority of his history.
And then that's, that's all up to up to the point before Islam right
before the Muslims arrived there. And then the Muslims ruled that
for the majority of the 400 years, right, with the exception of
the Crusades, between 1099 and 1187, in the Gregorian calendar,
and then what's happened recently with the with the State of Israel,
and the Muslims have always and the hours before but the Muslims
especially, I've always been very magnanimous towards the
inhabitants of this, of the city, and of the land itself, and
towards the, towards the Christians towards the Jews.
They've always been tolerant and, and respectful and so forth. So
what in my mind was really showing is that it is, indeed is the
Muslims and the Arabs who have absolutely the most right to rule,
this land. And these other people
have proven themselves to be completely an utterly unworthy,
they are unworthy to begin with, from an historical perspective,
from a religious perspective. But then we can also see from the
absolute bloodshed and massacre and massacres and terrorism that
these current people have inflicted upon the local
population that they prove themselves unworthy, they weren't
that so it's a case of like, they weren't they were unwilling to
begin with, but now they're just gone and improve themselves. It's
really unworthy of this position. The first conquests was French,
was a French colonial project. And this is an Eastern European
colonial project. So the Crusaders are French. Yeah, that's why they
called a French European collectively, right? Because it's
obviously collective. The Pope Pope Urban the Second so it says
that's from a papal bull from 1095. Yeah. Which is an acted upon
and 1099 when they arrive. Yeah. So they had some Germans, some
British, some Italians, but mainly
Western Europeans, we could say, this time around. This is an
Eastern European colony, essentially. These are Eastern
Europeans. Right? What is claim or not is irrelevant. You're Eastern
Europeans. You look like Eastern Europeans. You eat like Eastern
Europeans. You dance like Eastern Europeans. Because, honestly, you
know, the common sense of people. When this stuff happened on
October 7, and the IDF soldiers were dancing.
A random guy put a hilarious comment and said, if we needed any
evidence that you guys are not from the Middle East, it's these
these stiff dance moves. Right? This is a little cutaway, right?
Because we know, unlawfully, but we know how Middle Eastern women
dance. Okay, and it's not what these stiff moves. Good.
Yeah, that's a part of this. This is what again, I put that forward
in my in my introduction about the fact that this is what we're the
face. We're we're faced with a a Western or settler colony. That's
what this effectively is. It's a relic of the British Empire.
And it's also incredibly cynical that they would do this because
this this whole project is a result of or as a consequence or
an outcome of European anti semitism. Yeah, it's not. It's not
our issue. Yeah. anti semitism. I'm not saying that we've never
had a problem with the Jews living amongst our ranks. Right. Their
problem is
has been that they, they persecuted Jews, they did not
allow Jews to take up so many trays. That's why Jews got into
banking. That's why Jews had to go into into lending money and
interest. Right? And then
people get into so much debt and they say what do we do? Oh God
take the Jews out because that's their that's their issue is not a
problem we have in the Muslim world. Yeah. So. So what is very
sad about it is the fact that as that what's the the professor from
Iran has been on on a lot of shows recently, Manning's name is
Miranda, who's making that Mohammed Randy's make that point
that
it's like the Arabs and the Muslims are being made to pay for
the sins of Europe? No, that's exactly what's happening.
There is no historical record of Moroccan pilgrims, or Egyptian
holocausts, or Syrian pogroms or anything like that.
If there was we would have already known it. Now.
Now, I know that we probably are going to probably make movies
about it and try to look for some little piece of evidence. But if
it actually happened, the world would know the historical record
would have been there, right at any serious level. So the way that
it happened in Spain, in every European country, pogroms
Holocaust and expulsions. Right, so
that's their legacy as their legacy 100%. Yeah. Tell us about
the campus or the the compound when someone goes to Al Aqsa? Is
it just the Masjid? Or is it a haram with a big campus that
includes the Dome of the Rock? Explain that? Yes. It's it's one,
it's one big compound. Again, I haven't been there myself. But it
is it is, as I know, people have been there it is a compound and
the Dome of the Rock is in the compound of what is metal X or
some special X ray is not the same thing is done with the rocks, I'm
gonna I'm gonna make that confusion that they think that
because that's such a prominent
site, obviously the golden dome, but that itself is not a national
excellent national x. So that the the the main document dimensional
x tends to be the one that's slightly the grayish black in the
background, that's much luxol. And the Dome of the Rock is where you
have the golden the golden dome, which was built by the
American model N. Right. And he in his in his his whole idea.
His his his wisdom behind that was that was that it should be it
should be sold bright and glistening.
That the unbeliever should just be dazzled by it.
That was it. This is something to be something that most of us would
take. We take pride in and humbling.
It's there, it's there to this day, it remains
and the situate the situation that we have that we have now. And this
is something that Seymour mamas really touches on. And it's a
difference of opinion amongst
the Jewish people themselves about what they're supposed to do with
it. Because
as far as I know, overdye usif was one of their big authorities like
a posuk. right word. He's one of the bigger authorities who passed
away in 2012. His his art his point is that because we don't
know where the actual Temple was the original temple and what they
call the time assault, so we don't know where it is. And we don't
know what part is, you have to get used to it stay away from it.
Really, actually not meant to go anywhere near it, you see.
Because again, it's only one small section of design is something
that that this the COVID Temple Mount faithful, they're the ones
who have this idea of like taking it over and in sacrifice read
headfirst inside of it, all that kind of stuff. But
as a mama's it also shows is that what they call the Wailing Wall,
which they which some of them believe this is when an erroneous
belief, they believe that's the original part of Solomon's temple.
We call that the Hottel Mohawk. Right? That's what we call it is
the wall of the Bulldog. That's where the Baroque was made this to
rest or Vegeta was tied up with that night when the Metro law
specimen went into the, into the heavens. And what he meant was we
had he shows is that there was the British held some sort of
commission or some sort of inquiry back in the 1930s. So things like
1933 There was an inquiry that was done. And they got some Europeans
I think it was from what regard is neutral countries don't like some
Dutch and some Swiss and some few others. And they listened they
listened to Jewish arguments and Muslim arguments as to who
actually owns this wall and it went back and forth back and forth
and I I've actually linked it in the in the book. So I found the
original documents a long, long document but the conclusion was
like no, this is decisively Muslim Subhanallah Shabbat like the
Muslims on that wall it's Jesus wondering what else it's there's
so
that's
that's what it that's what the right position is that's what the
just position is. So what are other men are getting and that's
one of my mom's a Haley says and what are the most and other books
in
On this topic is the issue with with Philistine and weather
quotes, it boils down to two two ultimate things, which is that
it's hard to say which one's takes first or second, but let's put
this way. Number, let's say number one is Donald Islam. Right? It's
not the sound understanding also is that once the Muslims rule in
place, it's always $1 sign dollar sign was always all this land and
we don't we don't rescind it.
They are given some pain over Spain because Spain is not
surrounded by the Muslim countries. But Philistine is
surrounded by Muslim countries. So it's not the same as always all
Islam. But the second thing, and this might be the more
crucial thing, and Manuel was already mentioned this from time
to time, the book is the fact that it's all cough.
These lands are our walk, right? When in doubt, no one owns their
dominance, whether large or small they are they are in dominance.
And the nature of endowments and endowment is for perpetuity, you
cannot change it, you're not allowed to change it. The nature
the nature of a walk fee of like a document that's that is laid out
is that a
the whack of the one who sets up the endowment, it's not quite
normal for him to write at the end of it to say, May loss curse
beyond beyond whoever changes this. Right? So whether it's a
masjid or a school or a well or a clinic or a hospital, whatever it
is, he does not want that to change because then that's that's
his southern longevity. That's his ongoing reward from the time of
his death all the way up to him Oklahoma. So what we're trying to
establish here and again, people, you know, to get above these silly
accusations of anti semitism so far, this is again, there's no
issue. There's no problem with Muslims. We have no issue. No
problem with Jews living there. Mashallah, you want to live there
and Madhava You're welcome. There's no issue. But you cannot
tamper with the elk off and you cannot set up a state. No, this is
our land has always been our land. And since it's what belongs to us,
it goes back. Some years. It's doorless land. These are old
cough, you do not play with old cough. You don't that that's not
for anyone to mess around with. Yeah, that's what the issue is.
It's not the issue of their presence there if they want to
live there. That's not the issue.
And so the currently speaking the temple
what are the temple?
Yeah, the Temple Institute, where where do they plan to build their
temple?
Well, they would have to destroy the mystery. That's the point.
Yeah. And and the Dome of the Rock or just domestic. They had the
whole the whole thing. It's the whole site. That's the way they
see it. As far as I know. That's what they see. So that's, that's
why they call it the Temple Mount. That's why yes, that's the
erroneous term. It's not the Temple Mount. It's that size, or
so that's actually if that's what it is. It's not the Temple Mount.
And that's why,
you know, Judaism, there's this, there's this split. And this is
why getting again, because I know you yourself, you've injured,
you've interviewed rabbis on the show is they're trying to a
position that
Jews should not be in that area until their Messiah comes. Yeah.
That's the belief. And that's, that's you're not supposed to go
there and try to make the Messiah come. Yeah. You're supposed to
stay where you are, and wait for him to come. And then he'll take
you there. Yeah. So that's why there's this huge split. But
what's happened is,
Judaism has pretty much been hijacked by Zionism. Yeah. And
this is what I kind of alluded to, again, in my introduction, I kind
of looked at that point. It's like, well, like who does this?
This whole Zionist entity, the State of Israel, who's injured?
Does it really serve? Is this really about Judaism? Or is this
really about the American hegemony? Is this really about
American British imperialist interests? Yeah, right. And then
put a few quotes in there like sort of for example, like the fact
that when the British set it up they originally called Israel they
refer to it as a Jewish Ulster.
Right, like a Jewish version of Northern Ireland. Yep. Yep. Right.
And a lot of the same people like a the British black and tans a lot
of the same individuals who went into Ireland and brutalized people
realize that the Irish Catholics and oppress them in many horrific
ways. were the same people who went to Palestine and brutalized
the Palestinians. Right. And then you have
the Americans took over and then like, like,
like Biden said that himself, he said, they've reused real didn't
exist, we'd have to create it. Again, because again, it serves an
American purpose. Yeah, not really about Judaism to have an entrance.
A balance sheet. It's either Yeah, have an entity right there in the
middle of where all the oils, and let's take a look at another
thing. There is a rabbi who said an amazing thing yesterday, or I
got his clip yesterday. It was actually one of the best
reputations of liberalism within religion that you ever hear. So a
guy says,
you know, the rabbi says In Judaism, we are not in exile. God
put us in a hospital. Our exile is our hospital that is ordained from
God. So
We are fully accepting this situation. And it is against our
law to go and reestablish the State of Israel.
It's against our law to do this. And so the the interviewer, who
apparently is a Muslim, he says,
Don't you understand the sentiment of a Jew who says, We have no
country, and we're just traveling around, roaming around the world
with no country. Right? And you know that this is really Grevious
tip.
And the rabbi says that I'm sorry, but I am a believer, I only view
the world from the lens of belief. And a Jew had no right to have
these feelings.
Because this is the ordain men of God. And I understand he has these
feelings, but they're not just and therefore if this is how he feels
about the ordain men of God at the command of God, then please don't
be a Jew. Oh, wow. Why would you have to be a Jew? Right? No one's
forcing you to be a Jew, you could be a Gentile like anybody else.
Right? Because if this is the Divine Will or this is God's law,
this is God's rule. You do not have the right it will not be
fair, just or appropriate.
It would not be fair, just or appropriate to be sort of feeling
like a victim because of it.
Same way, when Allah is out of forbids homosexuality upon
Muslims, and a Muslim comes in and says, you know, this, that in the
other end, he's crying, and we think, and this is not right to me
and not fair to me, and say, Okay, do you understand what being a
Muslim means? It means submit to Allah subhanaw taala. If that's
the rule, that's the rule. But then again, no one is forcing you
to stay Muslim. Right? As as terrible as that would be. But
that's the logic. Right? No, he said, you know, please don't be a
Jew. What's forcing you to be a Jew? This is this is Judaism.
There is no Judaism without God. These guys are all secular
liberals who had rendered Judaism into nationalism. Right.
Essentially, they've nationalized Judaism. They taken a European
construction
cookie cutter that put it on Judaism and cut everything else
out, including god. Yeah. Yeah. And universal did and the reason
that Muslims we have to look at this the same way that Christians
and Jews are criticizing the Quran so because we find our own people
following the same footsteps,
liberal humanism, secular humanism, put it on like a cookie
cutter on the Quran and the Hadith, and kind of everything
else are the shitty out and Islam cut everything else out, throw it
in the garbage. And what's left? Voila, Islam. That's what's your
boys name? From Canada. Who does this? What's that? Should be your
ally. Whereas the big beard makes everyone thinks he's a Muslim that
strike to spill it one more time and you're out.
Strike he should be your ally is one of those preachers he has to
be spoken against publicly. He's one of these people who Yes, he
has a big beard. He has a Moscon he has a TUPE and he makes
everyone think he's something like a shape. And then everything is
held out for him. Trends. Homosexuality is not really in the
Quran. perennialism Hellfire is just like an imagination that is
forever. It's just an exaggeration. It's like saying I'm
at this traffic lights taking forever. It's not really forever.
This is cool for direct call for this is not Islam anymore at this
point. So we have those amongst us that are just like this. Right?
You know, imagine if you want to know what Israel from a Muslim
perspective would look like. Imagine the progressive Muslims
intermarried with ISIS?
Yeah. Okay. And produce a child.
Right? That child would be what Israel is to Judaism. Right? Yeah.
Complete nationalism. secularism. God didn't keep the Sabbath. The
founders of Israel didn't keep the Sabbath, and then took their
military might that they learned from from the British and their
terrorism, because that's the King David Hotel was an act of
terrorism amongst me and establish a state base based upon them.
Right? Yeah.
I think that Allah that's the that's because those early guys
like Moshe Dayan was quoted in the book.
He also said, because when I think was 1973, when designers when they
took East Jerusalem, and that was the first time when Jews actually
go to what they call the Wailing Wall. Yeah. And he watched him so
I've actually watched some rabbis running over the Wailing Wall and
other like religious Jews. And he laughed. He's like, he's like,
What is this the Vatican somehow
having to juggle?
So how was How was this even? It's not? Yeah, I don't know. It's so
hard to fathom. You think it's supposedly a religious project or
this endeavor?
It's completely pointless. It's a completely secular endeavor. What
is the Muslims responsibility towards advocates is it to visit
it once in a while?
Lifetime what is is there any Shetty I related to Muslims no
cuts?
Well, the bait the position the vision of Oakwoods. Again, like I
said, like I said before is that that whole land is supposed to be
and all Islam, right so the the basic position the full cause but
this is called what's called in the fetal arm this is a land that
is under attack, it's under attack, it's under occupation.
And it needs it needs to be liberated. So those who are there
on the frontlines, they they fight back and they resist and those who
are further away they do what they can, and those further away they
do what they can and that's in terms of course of sending aid and
sending food and clothing and all these kinds of things. And
supporting these people. So the people the people in the West Bank
people in the hodza they're kind of they're at the forefront of
this they're at the forefront of this of this struggle and this
that's what the responsibility is and again if you're able to visit
it visit it because it should not be neglected. Yeah right if you
have the chance to go you can go there because again your your your
prayers were five five times a reward.
And it causes all codes. I don't think I need to expound on that.
What what is shift Bootsy and Chico Ambassador Haley think of
the federal given that Muslims should boycott el cuts and
entering it's a Philistine so long as the Israelis rule it this was a
very popular festival given amongst the Arabs and a lot of
people acted upon it and they just boycott they never went they never
took their families what do you think what did they say about that
federal No, I haven't come across them take that position now you
should because you know if you if you if you if you abandon don't
pray them, then they this gives them a reason to take it over.
Yeah, take it over no one feels it. Yeah. No, they should not quit
should not be abandoned at all. I know they're in my water too
heavy. He he he mentioned something. He does mention
something though, about the Christians doing this, though. As
Bubba Shinoda right on the Coptics
who died I think about 15 years ago, he gave a ruling like that.
So he he said that his flock, the Egyptians, the cops of Egypt, he
forbade them from going to Jerusalem and Bethlehem as long as
Zionists are there well I got him he mentioned that ruling and he
and he says that's a good ruling but I I've never seen anyone I've
never seen him him or remember both he say that Muslims should
not go
to courts. I've never seen that. Okay, wonderful. Where can people
purchase this book? So this this book is handed off right right now
it's available on Amazon, Amazon, right it's Amazon Amazon and then
the now on books website. They will have another website cuz
they're gonna print it locally. So it will be available on our books
website as well. And
if you're in the UK
I will be doing certain events in different cities and I will be
I'll have copies of the book with me. Very good. So I've got like
I've got an event tomorrow in Bradford Rafa Muslim college I've
got one next week in Nottingham and then one of a few lined up in
a few other cities are lined up like London and Pressman so forth.
I think it'll be in Birmingham the end of end of May one I will check
as far as messages. So yeah, the word is the word is getting out.
So yeah, it is a very
concise
well written book
which gives you everything you need to know everything basically
you need to know in a nice pithy fashion and then on your arm
you're armed with the the tools the arms are armed with the facts
and this is how
we deal with this
plethora of horrible information horrible propaganda. Yeah, and
inshallah inshallah this knowledge will get to people in sha Allah,
you know, are our brothers and husbands over we'll get some
relief soon inshallah inshallah wonderful. You print all your
Syrian translations through NOAA books. Yeah. How can we get you to
print to translate something for us? Giacometti is a prolific
translator. So if he decided to come out with its first
publication very soon, the problem of evil amazing book we need to
get you on our publication list. Are you alright? Is it the the
Syrian stuff only with no books? Are they got you exclusive for
everything?
No, no.
I just do a lot of work with them because because it's now a book
saucing named after Noah the talent Syria wherever know him I'm
a no he's from Yep. So through novel books, we just have a very
good relationship because we work with for example, like the
multifamily.
We have contact with our publishers
strategy lab, the dean who runs in our books, he studied Syria for a
long time he's very close to ship was full of law. Yeah.
So that's how we for example, we went to do a Wi Fi the Tom turn,
they already know where we are. And that's how we're doing a
fisherman hygiene now. So we're putting all these these things
together so I'm not under no exclusive contract but mashallah,
I just I just love working with them. My books are wonderful. It
was a very good relationship with
Very productive respect relationship and I love to publish
with them. And we also do. We also do partnerships between like
number books and like my own label, which is the foreign
publications like, anxiety was about. We do like joint things
when I posted on Lulu
and I also have books that I do. I also have a series of books. I'm
working on buying my mom and dad, we'll be rocking mangia on what's
not mostly fit mostly for he's got he's got one on banking that I'm
republishing with a regional publishing in the UK which is
registrar's publishers. Nice. That's a reading that's a new
edition coming out. There's that that's that that's on banking,
it's called. It's called Local waka tilapia will be hosted by
SubhanAllah kreativen has occurred rib eye study with Sheikh Mohammed
so we'll 1998 You met him? Yep. Yeah, Mashallah. I met him just
before he passed away, let me finish. Here's a few years before
he passed away things like 2012. And that I mean, there's a whole
lot I've there's also one level Korea fulfilled Islamic laws now
misogynistic, which are self published.
And then there's one I've got, which didn't publish the draft is
done. I'll probably publish the original publication, which is one
called mature to fucker, the problem of poverty.
And then another interesting one, I've lined up after that, because
I have I have permission from the mom's family to do it. So the one
after that, which you might find kind of interesting is called
Kasasa. mathematicae. Oh.
Do you have a publisher yet?
No, not yet. Well, we'll put our we'll put in a bid. Since you're
highly desired. Translator. Yeah, we will put in a bid. Yeah. All
right. It's all
laid out.
On the shelf behind me. It's a real book. Yeah, it's a bit of a
Maliki How big
200 pages? 100 pages?
No, it's there we go. Let's see the side this. This is Oh, that's
actually it's like, looks like to 10 to 20 to 50. Maybe even it's
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