Shadee Elmasry – Signs of Companions vs Hypocrites w Shaykh Muhammad Yasir alHanafi NBF 290
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The historical context of the legalization of Islam in Pakistan is discussed, highlighting the importance of understanding the concept of " emergents" and unity in unite in the Islam unification movement. The emotional work required for pilots and events is emphasized, along with the danger of liberalism and the importance of praise for one's sincerity. The speakers also discuss the use of Nintendo music and the history of Nintendo's use of music. The conversation concludes with a brief advertisement for upcoming film and book recommendations.
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Bismillah al Rahman al Rahim Al hamdu lillah wa Salatu was Salam
ala Rasulillah. While early he was happy woman Well welcome everybody
to the Nether but facts Safina says the Safina Saudi nothing but
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everything, mashallah, in the state, it's one of the best states
to live in. Okay. Now, let's today, what are we doing today? We
have a wonderful guest. I'm sitting there about five years
ago, in Madina Munawwara on my last day there, under those
beautiful canopies, and waiting for Iraq to come in,
as you know, from the great Sunon that we should try to practice,
especially when you go to Ramadan, which is to pray fetch in the gym
out. And if you're an automaton, how do you usually going before
the end of fetch, can't miss that?
Wait, pray, fetch, wait until the sun is up a little bit, put your
spear in the ground and see where the sun is, because that's what
they used to do in the old days. But now, our Sheoak teach us to
count 20 minutes after it should,
then you pray to god guys, and then you have the the reward of
Hajj and Umrah fully complete. Okay, you get the reward of that,
without it removing the two cliff of doing hedge if you haven't done
it before. I'm sitting there and I got approached by a young chef.
And I look and we start talking.
And we ended up talking maybe 3540 minutes,
we ended up talking about
one of the great the best books in refutation of Shia
and the power of this reputation, the depth of knowledge.
The author of that book really is something else. So my guest today
who will be discussing this. And essentially the essence of it is
that
showing that Eberbach said network said no matter what hooked up, say
that you shall possess all the signs of believers and none of the
signs of hypocrites as is levied upon them. I felt you would all
benefit from this. And that's just the opening of our discussion.
We'll let the discussion go where it goes after that. All right,
let's bring to the program. Sheikh Mohammed Yes, it had Hanafy out of
Birmingham England Sheikh Mohammed Welcome to the Safina citing
nothing but facts live stream
slowly Tour de la hoobler cattle Salam Raj Allah so let's go
straight. Let's get straight to it.
Begin with one of the proofs and expounding on the thesis that the
Quran clearly shows there are signs of hit of the hypocrites
around the Prophet. And there are signs of believers and the to
never mix. So out from under him first and foremost is that Kamala
Harris and Dr. Shadi mystery
Well, yeah, my pleasure won't accept your efforts and
I mean, wherever you and your friends and teams may Allah give
them all
just arcade Inshallah, I mean, I mean, that the topic that we
discussed Alhamdulillah initially and Madina Munawwara.
This is, I would say, in my humble opinion, a revolutionary
discussion that took place a
few decades ago, and it's important to give a backdrop of
what happened. The historical context is important before we
start discussing the actual discourse. So this was now I'm
just
recalling from my memory, so I might be in somewhat inaccurate
and some of the things I say but the general picture inshallah
should be accurate. This was approximately in 2018, or 2019, or
even slightly before we had three days costs in Manchester
with Dr. Mahathir Mohamad Rahmatullah Halley who passed away
a couple of years ago, number one
and the
These three days cos it was regarding maryada Sahabi it the
criterion of being a Sahabi. What makes a Sahabi?
What are the conditions of being a Sahabi? So this particular
discussion occurred in those three days. And I vividly remember this
discussion because it was auspicious gathering. It was a
spiritual lifting, gathering, and SubhanAllah. It was absolutely
amazing. So the backdrop to this is the sheikh Khalid Mohammed
Abdullah, he said in the 80s or early 90s, there was a Shia cleric
in Pakistan, who gave a speech.
And this speech was broadcasted on radio, it was also then
penned and written in a small treatise document and then
distributed amongst the Sunni population of Pakistan. And
synopses are the summation of what you said, was as follows
that Shia are more bloomed or oppressed in Pakistan.
And the reason is, that when it came to making Pakistan, Shia and
Sunni were together, they were united, which is true.
When it came to declaring the Qadiani sect Cardinia, who
followed Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani, the Shia and Sunni were
together in declaring them disbelievers are far.
So in major events through different interval of times the
Shia and Sunni in Pakistan, historical context, they were
together. Now there is a great division, there's a great divide
amongst the Shia and Sunni
and the reason to this is because the Sunni say
that we don't believe in the Sahaba the Shia things.
And he says By Allah, you dude, * yeah, dude. * yeah, dude.
This is a lie. This is a lie. This as a lie. We believe in Sahaba
Sahaba Muhammad is circuito meaning they're the crown of our
heads. Okay, do Toki knitted your mighty head that this underneath
their feet? Hum to sama banana KTR we are ready to make the destiny
that is found on the Delphi as covered as antimony antimony you
know.
So everybody's listening to this and, you know, it doesn't it
doesn't look like here is speaking. Because he's saying
Sahaba are great people we are. They're the crown of our heads. We
are willing to make the desk under their feet Kohle and unto many of
our hearts. But then he started injecting his poison.
He said, we have a set of McGucket Dakota humanity.
We only reject the highway robbers of Makkah.
Now you and I know who he is indicating towards the issue of
health etc. But he is clearly not saying a worker O'Meara de Allahu
Taala in Houma name because if it does,
it's game over, especially in Pakistan. So he just gave this
hint. And then he said when
you get to Quran keypath this is what I'm saying is in the Quran,
we believe the Sahaba to be the believers and what we know
and this is the Quranic discourse is a Quranic fact, if you open
surah baqarah the first 20 verses the first five verses are
dedicated to the believers. Yes, verse number six and seven is to
do with the Ufa and then from Wamena nursing manual cool till
the end of the record is to do with monotherapy.
And just a side point here, our teacher said that if you analyze
this first look at the long, longest versus or the most versus
actually with the munaf 18 Meaning we should refute them extensively.
So he said these are three groups the Shiites saying you have the
believers, meaning you have your own than this person, and you have
the mafia con.
So when it comes to Sahaba we believe the mob may known to be
the Sahaba not the monarchical
and even the Quran says that the munaf you can use to say the
Kalima the word assent to the shahada, but they didn't believe
in it. Either. Jackal Mona if you're gonna call Luna shadow in
Nicola Rasulullah. When the Mona African country or Prophet, they
say we give, we bear witness that you are the Prophet of Allah. Will
Allahu Allah Allah in Nicola rasool Allah and Allah knows the
US Prophet, will Allah who yes had in the Amana Filipina, the Chi the
moon and Allah
Love bears witness that the munafo in a line.
So the Shear says, We believe the Sahaba we believe that me know to
be the Sahaba not the monarchy code and the monarchy, I would say
the Kalama and this isn't the Quran.
So this sent a lot of confusion in the Sunni population, especially
that, you know, the Sunni clerics that refuting the Shias. These
people are finding that even the Sahaba and they have given
he has said something which cannot be disputed, you know, is like
Kurimoto hocking readable Boulton. So, the statement in an essay in
and of itself is true, but the intention behind the statement is
false. So, anyway, this was the Colossae the summary of his
speech, and many people were influenced he also then his speech
was compiled into a small booklet treaties, and it was distributed.
And the name of this book was maryada subete, the criteria of
being a Sahabi from the Quran, which is that you have to be a
believer. Now, what this person did he certainly
attack the emaan and the faith of obika homage to the Allahu taala.
And without mentioning the name without using any definitions.
Down here, he used the Quran. This booklet this treatise was taken to
Dr. Allama Allah Muhammad Rahim Allah, and it was shown to him so
he said, I read this work. And I said in the law, Roger,
that this is such a obfuscation and malapa
that for many years, I've been debating the shears
but he the two I have not come across such an obfuscation and
such a move about where the Imam of Abu Bakr and Omar have been
attacked without mentioning their name using the Quran.
So now his task was to defend the Imam of Abu Bakr and Omar. But the
epistemic method has to be the same, which is the Quran so you
can't say for example,
Imam pa the yellow hammer to Allah here, they give this definition of
a Sahabi or Imam Rahmatullahi Allah gives this definition or
this Imam postulates this definition. The systemic
method has to be the same which is the Quran. So he says for many
months, I couldn't answer and it was difficult for us to make dua
to Allah doe Allah. You know, if you're Imam Razi was alive, he
would have answered your shell, would you allow us alive, you
know, he would have answered, but your weak servant, Khalid
Mohammed,
oh my God to answer this. We said Subhanallah after a few months,
you know,
in a lot, put an answer in my mind and my heart, and that was by
concentrating on the main evidence.
And the main evidence is evoucher Cremona if you're gonna call Luna
shadow in Nicola Rasulullah that the Mona if you call the
hypocrites they used they used to visit the company of the Prophet
sallallahu alayhi wa Sundays to visit the prophet Isaiah salaam,
and they used to also present the Kalama to the shahada thing
so after explaining a grammatical ruling, he says that either jackal
Mona if you're going that the Mona if you're going to use to come to
you,
they're coming. They're coming and going is savate
Boeing is established but the sitting is not established.
Subhanallah So from this, you can tell there's two types of people
and he give an example he said look in your masjid, you have
those regular merciless those
ugly and then you have you know once in a blue maybe once in a
month once in a year, the cause a bit fitna and then they disappear.
So he says this month you could come and they would go there IAM
is the hub is established, but there's juice and the company with
the proper Islam is established. So to interrupt for a seconder to
clarify to everyone that if somebody is irregular in a masjid,
you never go home and say so and so came to the masjid. Right. If
so, Abdullah Abdul Rahman and up the roof. Always pray in the
masjid. It's never news that they came to the masjid you would never
say it.
Whereas if if a Diwan or somebody or Semia
never comes to the masjid, it becomes news that he showed up.
Yes, stand up. Finish. Yeah, that's a fetch. Because that is
such a subtlety there. Yeah, that is a beautiful radical of people.
And he said, Who are you
those people with whom the Prophet alayhi salatu salam would say,
Allah instructed the Prophet salallahu alayhi wa sallam as a
sort of Toluca have wasp or Neff setter. I lead the near the owner
of the home beluga that you will actually read on which
he persisted in staying with those who call the rub the Lord morning
and evening seeking Allah's pleasure. And then also there's a
verse who Allah talk to the Latina the honorable and beloved to where
she will watch her do not dismiss the Sahaba
so he's now he's making is creating a hypothesis Right?
And, and he's also dismantling their position using the Quran
And subhanAllah he said, In swim on Alfie Kohn,
there's a verse which clearly suggest that even the Munna few
goon they knew that they were not amongst those who wish to stick
with the Prophet sallallahu
Kumala Xena Yaku, Luna Allah, tuneful Kohala Manuel endo
Rasulillah
and when African would say to one another, to each other, do not
spend on those who are with the Prophet and Rasulullah meaning
they knew themselves they are not amongst those who sit with the
Prophet otherwise why would they say Does it depend on
Yes.
Okay.
Between this discussion you also mentioned
as a side point was very powerful and he had he asked the audience
he said, Look,
if somebody is more gloom, if somebody is oppressed, would you
like to be part of them? Would you like to be with them? So for
example, now it was happening in Gaza Coliseum, ALLAH SubhanA, WA,
tada liberated Palestine, and other parts of the Muslim world,
you know, we feel for them, we feel and we want to help them. But
people generally don't want to be involved in the oppression
because it puts you in a difficult position. He said from the Quranic
discourse, it is clear that the concept of new Fox started in
Medina
because in Medina when Islam began to grow and gain strength, this is
when there was benefits for outwardly accepting Islam.
Volatile out of mana golem took me nowhere like no guru, Islam
to become those vitamins and out of that came they said we have
accepted Islam the Quran said Don't say you have accepted Islam.
Say you have said it also you have accepted Iman say you have
accepted Islam, yeah and
hither to enter your heart. So he said those who accepted Islam in
Makkah, they had to be sincere because genuinely Muslims
were going through oppression. So to interrupt again, thesis number
two or point number two evidence number two, is that an effect only
derived after the Hijrah the hijab? And where did Abu Bakr Omar
Radi Allahu Allah accept Islam in Makkah.
So, that question is not even applicable, then the fuck that
notion of the FARC
in applicable in that regard.
So, and then he says when
the munafo and they also realized
that there are certain Sahaba who are with the Prophet sallallahu
alayhi wa sallam, there are those who sit with the Prophet alayhi
salam, there are those who sit in company constantly. So, in order
to
make a division,
create fitna
they made their own message which the Quran speaks of, while leadin
at the huddle mess didn't they are our own, we're goofing around with
the three combined meaning that they built a message on the basis
of confirm disbelief. There are
harm and disbelief and what the three buy in and what me what a
failure campaign and what mean to cause division and disunity
amongst the believers because these believers are with the
Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. As soon as they built this
Masjid among African the hypocrites, they wanted
a validation they wanted.
You know if data, so who did they call they call the best person
Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, as soon as they invited
the Prophet salallahu Alaihe salam to pray Salah in this Masjid
Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam was told by Allah, La de
comfy somehow, oh my prophet do not even stand in this place. La
Masjid on Osita added Taqwa mean overly Yeoman a hardcore into coma
fee, freely returning your Hibou in a year to borrow will love you
have been more bohemian indeed
The msgid either Mr Kuba or machinery instead Allahu Allah
Islam, whose foundation was based on righteousness and Taqwa is
better and more deserving that you pray in that why? Because there
are men in there who reject you hipbone baharu who love
purification, and wallah, you have been with body for the Bohemian
Allah loves those who
who acquire to Hara and purification. So, now down here
you know purification is as you know shift is of two types you
have the botany and the law here you have the internal O'Hara and
the external Pahala. The internal Sahara is of gopher and shake
excetera began and then you have external bajada where a person
that is hostile,
he has a bath and ablution this verse can refer to both and in
this context, it also refers to internal taharah because the munaf
18, the Kufa in terms of belief, they are impure. They are impure
in the mud machico Not just you know, they are impure. And it's
not befitting for the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam to
play solid. And the point here, which is very important, the
Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam was not told to
do Dooku or do not do such that he was told don't even place your
blessings in this place.
As your blessing for in this place. ruku and CELTA is not
possible. Why Allah subhanho wa Taala say this because this is a
context of Bihar and purification, that Oh My Prophet, Your blessings
for a spa here is pure. So
it's not befitting for the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam to
place his blessings in such a place in such a room where the
munaf 18 Who are impure, they are impure. So the question is that
Allah subhana wa Taala rejected that the
place it that's it for even for a short while in a room where the
munafo Clean, then how is it possible that he sleeps with two
of them in the same room tilapia?
So to recap for everybody, first of all, if you're on Instagram and
you want to see both of us hop over to YouTube Safina society
channel, the subject today is on an amazing
an amazing refutation or clarification on the differences
between believing companions and hypocrites solely from the Quran
so that nobody could says this is your made up Hadith. Good. That's
the book and the source that Shia and Sunni will both go to and
agree is their source. So the chef brought three so far. points. The
first point is the Quran references the the believers only
as sitting with the Prophet salallahu Alaihe Salam, and for
the hypocrites, it's established that they come and go, but they
never sit, okay. And the prophets of Allah when he was salam was
commanded never to even set foot with them. Let's help them via
Budda, and either Jack and whenever you can. Okay, point
number two, that the NIFA hypocrisy, which is outwardly
Islam, and inwardly, Cofer
only occurred after the Hijra. And one brother said no, that's not
true because there are some people there's once a person became
Muslim, then you want to become one which said, I said, it is true
because we're talking about hypocrisy. Being an apostate is
not hypocrisy. Being a hypocrite is you declare yourself as Muslim
and you say that you aren't but truly you are not. And as a
result, the idea there is
call it an audible Amanda. All right, the Bedouin said we believe
letter Kulu amenable to Islam right well I made called an email
vehicle to become you haven't believed say you have submitted
only so the second point is hypocrisy did not exist in Mecca.
It existed only after Mk. Okay when the muscles are having good
times, point number three for those just following is that the
Munna fix is the opposite of pure believers are described by Allah
as pure
and whenever fix are described by Allah as the opposite of that, in
other words, that's a contrast. Okay? Allah says do not stand in
the mosque of these hypocrites. For Allah loves the pure muffin
mocha here
learning something from the opposite is that the hypocrite is
not pure. Okay
three points so far okay continue
and also
just to remind you that even if you go and they themselves knew
that they're not amongst those who read the prophet
in the Quran themselves said do not spend with those with the
Prophet so they identified their rivals or those they don't like
they identified them as people who sit with the Prophet that's three
et indicating that
medalla cetera Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam Casa
little mini
and and also share we from the Quran is very clear, yeah. Now one
of the habits of the monastic was to ridicule and mock to believe.
So, the Sahaba This is an instruction to the Sahaba it has a
tongue in Surah Nisa, it does similar to yoke phobia when you
start as it will be harder when you hear diversity of a lot being
rejected and ridiculed Falletta for who to hide your hood, goofy
Hadith inviting do not sit with them. Until then. But many of us
so far. Yeah. So this instruction to the Sahaba not to sit with
them.
Then, then,
what do you think will be regarded the Prophet salallahu Alaihe
Salam, and also there's another verse I mean, you could say when
African art come and develop the outwardly mean.
And Allah says to Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam Oh
emergencia negotiated Falah about the Quran Maliko midvalley mean
palata code by the Quran
surah Anna a verse 68. So they are they are the verses like this,
which which postulate that the Prophet sallallahu alayhi salam
generally speaking he did not sit with them on our team yesterday
morning if you can maybe came the visited him, you know, there was a
maybe exchange of words and conversation McCallum was sitting
with the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam benefiting from his
company constantly. This is something that the Quran clearly
argues against this demographic and did not do this. And those
that are with the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam
especially in Bakr, Omar, so they couldn't be monastic and this is
in the light of the Quran. So at the end, he would say, May IQbuds,
RB khazzani may be critical, but take Balsam Johnny Oh, Joe, but
some Jeremiah who? John is Sinead, a solid McCoy Mona Figlio sector.
I'm going to say something. You guys listen, I've come to explain
one thing, that those who used to sit with the Prophet salallahu
Alaihe Salam, there cannot be monolithic. And this hypothesis is
established from the Quran. And then he also wrote a book, which I
have in front of me is about 300 sites on this topic, same topic,
same title, the sheer name of his book, May is a habit, but he had a
different color. Maybe it is a heavier, so this is approximately
just under 300 site. And
300 What's signs a site sites pages or pages, okay, okay. Okay.
I see. Yep. Yeah. And he has mentioned many verses and Hadith
in here,
too, to establish this theory, that those who wish to sit with
the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, they could not be monastic
in the light of the Quran.
And then,
now, what is the proof from the Quran that Abu Bakr and Omar and
Aisha, for example, sat with the messenger SallAllahu sunnah.
From the Quran,
or from an agreed upon source with that the Shia will concur to I
mean, I think I think that she I believe that the she I do believe
that they were, they were the closest companions. I mean, that
is I don't think that's an argument of disputation. How about
believed that you had mentioned to me that the she also recognized
that those buried next to the prophet or Abu Bakr and Omar
Yes. And that is much more than sitting with somebody for half an
hour? Exactly. That's centuries now. Yes.
I do remember I was having a dialogue with a Shia and he and I
mentioned this that Bakr and Omar Radi Allahu Taala nkhoma diberi
with next to the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam and
they will be resurrected together from that same soil Subhan Allah
and then we also
believe that the MBR I didn't know salat wa salam I live in the
graves and this is why we give salam or when we visit the Rosa
Sharif.
So he mentioned well, they were they were
buried without the Prophet sallallahu Allison's permission
okay. And diversity give us your Latina Armin we're allotted Hello
but you tend to be a little
insular
do not enter the houses of the Prophet said Allah will accept
that permission is granted to you. So I said well, this is evidence
that they had email because the address the yeah you will see in
some Han Allah Subhana Allah He
He probably brought the proof against himself. Yeah, so
also How about of course in Abu Bakar is very well known that
India Cooney saw AB
30th Nene in Houma. Filati in the accordingly so heavy and they
share Concur it was Abubaker
because if they don't then they take away that's it and it was in
the house.
And during your Hijra
Joshua Allah
I think when it comes to
our epistemology, the only the only thing that we can agree on
with the share is the Quran.
Although there's a discussion whether they believe in the
Hadith, etc. And the scholars you know, know that WC additional book
and facilitator fee is about 30 ticket type Euro bill Arbab
notwithstanding all that discussion, I mean, this is the
Quran is the only thing that we can agree both of us that you
know, we can discuss and I will teach you emphasize on this. Now
when it comes to discussions with the shears, we should just use the
Quran.
Also Seda Isha is established by the idea of entering the home.
Yeah, you're letting me know later the Kulu used to be and she
obviously clearly entered and lived. Yes. So that's to say that
Abu Bakr Seda Isha directly from the Quran. Now there we are
holding the assumption that they recognize Satan Ahmed was always
with the Prophet peace be upon him.
But
what if somebody was to reject that assumption? And they would
say, No, we're only disputing from the Quran. So is it possible? Is
it possible? Is there any indicator of Satan Alma keeping
the company the prophet or entering his home?
From the Quran directly?
Obviously, I'm gonna do it loud. Yeah, just to make to make it
airtight, even though we recognize that they don't dispute that say
normal kept the prophets company. But in case they did, and we only
want to refute from the Quran.
I mean, the onus of evidence will be on them that why, you know, I
think that's accepted academically, even in their in
their vulnerable. Yeah. Why is he disputing this? In that the
question, that's the question that we need to ask. Yeah. Easy
disputing this. Can I ask you something else about sheer
etiology and terminology? Is there a difference between sub and learn
among in their theology in their op ed?
I needed to share I don't know. I don't know if you could look into
this because I kept receiving a she is saying, new learner sub
bissa. Hub. learner so boo Sahaba.
But what happened was that a clip was released. Okay? Saying as sub
is for you, to curse somebody, okay? But Allah is to believe that
Allah has cursed them.
And this is where people get very confused when they say when people
say Lana Suba Sahaba we don't curse the Sahaba
but you believe in their land.
And that's the type of topia where they do the Inmar of its is more
at the salon with hot items sub. So they manifest that they don't
curse, but they do believe in lon and that is a type of tepee a
trick that is done when they need to.
And I believe that the one who was leaked it was leaked from is in
England and he's one of their big Shay's che mmm second generation
born what's his name?
The second generation born che
he comes to NYU all the time cost travel. Yeah.
I think he comes to NYU, but he's from London. And I'm not sure any
Nuxe I believe that's him. Yeah. Yeah, I might have an extra one.
Yeah, he's Lebbon
Is she I believe Yeah. So yeah, he's the one who is that that was
leaked. wasn't meant to be on YouTube but it ended up on
YouTube. Yeah. I mean, I will teach you what to say that the
first people who criticize the Sahaba
with a machete kina Moto, and they said, well either T the arm you
know, come ominous, all or not Minakami sofa and then when they
were told to bring ima like the people have brought him on and the
people that brought him on at that time with the Prophet sallallahu I
do so with the Sahaba so they responded,
all or not me no Shall we bring a man come, Minister for like the
foolish people now with the bill.
So Allah subhanaw taala responded to them by saying, Allah in the
home homeless sofa, listen very carefully, indeed. These people
who are cursing the Sahaba they are the foolish people.
However, they don't know. So the question here is, they call the
Sahaba sofa, foolish people sofa is plural of Sufi, and even in
Arabic language, the words for Sufi sob, etc.
Allah could have chosen any other word he could have also said well
for them this painful punishment while these people are misguided.
There are many other words that Allah could have chosen.
But Allah decided to choose this the same word allah in nama so
far, today use the word sofa, Allah use the word sofa. So from
this out, he said, you can understand the principle that
wherever you say regarding the Sahaba that is what Allah will say
regarding you. Subhan, Allah, Allah subhanaw taala. Jeep, Jeep,
Jeep?
Can you explain to everybody in very briefly the importance of
Harris theology in the life of a Muslim because some people imagine
that what's important is what's happening. And that's a type of
bias. And that importance is only that which is sort of in the news.
Right? And it's the type of bias that we grade, what's important
based upon what's happening right in front of us.
And so that we should dismiss everything else. And then we
should just be unified on what's happening at this very moment. So
could you tell everybody, why is it important for my Eman for my
dean for my Echota to care
about Arpita and heresy
because salvation is based on this, I mean, our salvation the
Astra is primarily based on a theater and Iman and if a person
doesn't have this and they have everything else, from an Islamic
theological perspective, this is failure in the afterlife. And the
Quran clearly mentioned this, a lady Nautilus or you can feel
hayati, duniya, well, homea, Cebu and unknown person and so now,
those people whose endeavors will be interested in this dunya
yet they assume that they're doing good. So, salvation so that the,
the ultimate question should be what is the Ne Plus Ultra AR and
criterion of salvation is Iman number one is correct, Aqeedah and
then Ahmed. So while it is important that we, you know, live
in the present moment, and we address issues that are
surrounding us, we, you know, we shouldn't forget our ultimate
purpose in this life, which is to worship Allah subhana wa Tada,
which is to recognize Allah subhanho wa Taala This is why they
say if if a person
knowledge what is knowledge, you know, one of the scholars he, he
asked
students, how do you define an island? How did you find a
scholar? So different students give different answers. And
when said, Will you study seven years, eight years, nine years at
one SETI Institute,
you know, Mundek, for Sahaba, love, etc. You said if this is the
Marriott and the criteria of being an island, this formal criteria,
then no one amongst the Sahaba is an island.
Yet they're all Allah subhanaw taala entire discourse was based
on this verse in nama Yosh Allah, meaning a burden or Allah subhanaw
taala on the servants of Allah, those who carry knowledge that
fear Allah subhana wa Tada. So this is our ultimate objective is
to recognize Allah and Hersha you that Imam Romulus Rouhani mentions
Kashmir here, fear here. So the fear that you and I have from
Alliance for example of a snake or in the UK, how many people even
spiders. Hachette here is from a point of reference and others
that you feel ALLAH SubhanA wa Taala why because you
Recognizing, modifying who he is, is you're creating everything. So,
just to add, I don't want to give a monologue shift. But I think we
need to understand that what is our ultimate purpose of existence?
Why why are we here in dystonia? You know, symptom anima for Latina
Komaba, do you think you'd be created without any purpose?
In Allah to read your own? And do you think
you, you're returned to me? So having knowledge of the ACA and
preparing for the arterra is, it's actually knowledge. This is
knowledge, knowledge of the dunya is been? I mean, what's the verse
that comes to mind in sort of room, I think is yes, where Allah
subhanaw taala refers to those people who don't have Iman. And he
says,
Well, I can axon naskila, Allah Moon majority, they do have the
oil.
And it's part of a moon of law here, a mineral hypotonia they
only have knowledge of the apparent of the dunya was going on
dunya this Subhan Allah, this is tantamount to
Allah equity. What Lai Allah Moon Yarlung What about here a minute
higher?
They don't have knowledge. And the knowledge to have is just what's
happening that apparent of the dunya Well, whom annual karate
homograph attacks,
after, you know, regarding the onset of the coffee, the
neglectful the unaware? Yeah, I'm not sure if that answered your
question. I mean, it definitely did. And the no matter how much
knowledge you have of the finite, if you're ignorant of the
infinite, it's a small amount, it's essentially nothing. Because
if we drew for a draw line for a million years of knowledge,
and then we begin drawing the infinite line, for a period of
time, the finite seems bigger than the infinite.
And then at some point, they're almost equal. And then at some
point, the Infinite is a little greater than the equal but then
eventually, there's going to come a day, where the million years of
knowledge is nothing but a small speck in comparison to the
infinite line. And as a result of that, we can easily say, it's
zero, it's nothing. There will come a day in the era where you
live forever, day after day after day, after day after day,
eternally, okay, by Allah sustenance, that anything that
happened here was literally nothing in comparison to it. I
want to say something else too, that this is usually a retort that
people make when they don't like something because no matter how
much everyone is engrossed and Philistine, I think we all have
been for over two months now. Every single day, I know I have
personally been, but
I still can say that I sat and ate pomegranates with my parents, I
sat and I sat with my went out with my family went out with my
kids. And I did other things too, in life, right life is actually
still moving pretty normally from the day to day basis, your mind
may not be 100% happy about things but you're still picking people up
dropping to basketball games going to this and that and the other. So
then why is somebody saying Oh, hold on a second Philistines
happening and you're talking about this? Hold on, everybody? Yo,
critic included are living everyday regular life? Like no
nothing changed in the daily routine. So then why is it that
you're coming? When something when something you don't like you say
oh, you're talking about this one Philistine is happening. So it's a
non sequitur, something that's to be that's completely rejected?
Secondly, ALLAH SubhanA wa Tada says, yeah, uh, you're loving man.
Oh, oh, you who believe me, you know?
Me no. Oh, you believe believe. One of the meanings of this idea
is Oh, you have a general belief of Islam.
become knowledgeable about this belief. What is actually like the
halal Allah Muhammad Rasul Allah mean? You know that when I was
young, 1413 12 years old, I hadn't
been taught except the basics.
When I used to see sebab saying they're going to Syria to study
they're going to University of Medina was given up free
scholarships to study.
I never understood what is it there to study Akita more than
that Allah's one. Right, you're ahead, you're young, you don't
know anything. And that the study of the Sharia is essentially just
a long list of things not to do. This is the idea and the mentality
of many, many people into adult life. So they're believers, they
believe in Allah and His Messenger, but they need to
actually do more. Amen. Study of what their Amen is. Good.
So, that is the point of
studying these arguments.
In these differences, because Allah commands us to study our
religion, okay, whether anyone likes it or not, that's what we
study. Studying Religion has no is not confined to Current Affairs.
And it's not confined to anything else like this now, can I ask you?
Are there? Was there a retort to this response by Sheikh Khalid was
it?
So not that there hasn't been? He passed away two years ago,
approximately a couple of years ago. And he would say,
quite often, I heard him more than one saying this, that if you
disagree with my hypothesis, if you disagree with the evidence
that I've used, please tell me let me know
very open about this because
he basically confined
he clearly defined the concept of being a Sahadi from the Quran.
So I just want to add to share what you've already said is, I
think I know where
the concern or that that point is coming from where you're saying
that we should study our kid and EMA and the issue of Philistine is
happening therefore, we shouldn't be talking about these topics. And
mashallah, you have explained when, but the thing I want to add
on is, we discussed this academically we are not calling
towards, you know, some sort of violence or hate, we just
discussed topic, which is a Quranic discourse. All the
evidence that we've just mentioned now is from the Quran
and I think we should have more discussions like this, especially
discussions that are to do with our iman and and the sahaba.
Because the Sahaba will we will we need to understand is that the
matriarch of the Eman are the criteria of the Imam is the Imam
that we need to follow.
So in the Quran, Allah subhana wa Taala has stipulated guidance by
following the Imam of the Sahaba Yes, men will be missing him
mentum be factored in that Subhanallah This is very clear. So
if they bring Iman, like you have brought him on addressing the
Sahaba, then they will forget it, then they will gain guidance. So
we need to understand that defending the Imam of the Sahaba
speaking about the Imam of the Sahaba is part of the Quran is
part of Subhan Allah. And this is why Imam Muhammad Abdullah uses
very harsh harsh words, but
it could Manasi words that you know,
cursing the Sahaba, or having
this is, you know, the FARC and offer Antonia and he uses words
like this, you know, paraphrasing, and, and from an epistemic point
of view, we need to understand, and I want to mention this point,
if I may, please, is one of the reasons that we give
for the guardian for the truth and the veracity of Islam, which is a
fossil, you could say one of the fossil, you know, differentials
between Islam. And the rest of the religion is we have something
called isnaad chain of transmission as a delivery. After
that it's a lonely stand up column and shut up. If there was no chain
of transmission, that anybody would say whatever they, they
wanted to say. So, we have this epistemic rigorous system, where
every word we say regarding the purpose of Allahu alayhi salam, or
we give
religious injunction or due to potential ruling from a hadith, we
can trace this back to Prophet salallahu Alaihe salam from our
teachers, and then from there teachers are not only at the
narrator's of these chains, the names are preserved, their
biographies are also preserved,
dealers small region etc. So, our Alhamdulillah this is one of the
things and this is not system. This rigorous epistemic system
does not exist in any other religion. This exclusive to Islam
Alhamdulillah
what we need to understand that the first link, the first link
between our religion, our Quran and our sunnah and the Prophet
Allah Islam is the Sahaba that is the first link in the chain. Yes,
if that link cuts off the whole chain falls
and let me mention it from the Quran if you allow replace
one lady in the bow with data well Imana mean probably Mohit bounnam
and hygienic ly well are you doing a few sleuthing how you tell me
who to Luna Allah and for similar kind of in Kasasa mama you should
have seen for everyone sort of hash of
Allah has decided to the unsought yeah Sahaba will live in Medina in
their prayers. There are those people who have made
Medina, dar is referring to Medina as their home and Eman as their
home.
So the word the bow, the bow, what are you to bow? What would the bow
what it means is the Quran and he then made the adopted Medina as
their home and Imam as their home the question is you can understand
USA you know New Jersey New York etc being your home you know
Bradford Birmingham Manchester being your home
but Allah has connected
Iman is also the home Imams and modality it's not something that's
tangible is a que fi of the heart.
So the Sahaba have made
Medina day home and they made Eman their home. So I mentioned this
and just recently I was reading at the sealer alumina Tenzin by
evening to say you have to lie, I believe is also Maliki. Yes.
Yeah.
So again,
not granted. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I love him. He also Shaheed to Rahim
Allah.
So
he says the reason Allah has mentioned Iman, with Medina, Don
Medina is there was so sincere and there was so more or less in the
Eman as though they were the residents of iman as they were
residents of Medina, Savannah. So the residents are
Sahaba
residents. The makan is Yvonne
Mateen are the Sahaba those who are living at the Sahaba and where
they are living the locusts are the location is Ima. Now do you
see a house without the residence? If you see a house, nobody's
living in there. What happens to this house? Cara? Cara? In the
same way without the Sahaba a single verse of the Quran would
have not reached us. And
where does the fish live? Where does the fish reside in water in
the sea water.
Anybody who wants to go into the water they have to imitate to some
degree the fish move the hands, feet, and if they don't, they will
drown somehow. In the same way whoever enters Imani they have to
imitate the amount of the Sahaba otherwise they will drown somehow.
But the men who are meant to be focalise Subhan Allah Subhanallah
we show you the definitive versus, you know this historical spurious,
ambiguous and verified events of each verse of the Quran repudiates
completely refutes this. We're calling what are the Allahu
personna those who accepted Imam before conquest of Makkah, and
after Allah has promised gender for all of them, what else Zuma
whom Subhanallah and this is regarding the Sahaba in general
what else zemer whom Allah has made it last him for them as you
know chef is for Amman is definitive what Elsa whom Allah
has made he loves him for them loves him. Why is he mad loves
him. Kalamata taqwa, the word of piety, the word of righteousness.
What does love mean? Compulsory imperative parama What does love
mean? Lousy means for example, the light for the sun is loving this
wetness for the water is loves him. The sweetness for the honey
is loves him. You can't imagine the sun without its light. You
can't imagine water without its wetness. In the same way you can't
imagine a single Sahabi without EMA. And
so, the question arises is Allah forced this on them? No, no, what
can how can we how
they were deserving of this
Kalamata Taqwa work
so far, but this is not a polemical discourse that we have
in here or some sort of, you know, manava This is actually a Quranic
discourse. It's part of our and our team likes an epistemic ly
speaking the first chain
is the Sahaba run on language. I'd like to say something else about
that. Because you said
you hit Boonah man, her Georgia ELA him.
So the MaHA Jadine are worthy in the sight of Allah of being loved.
Their love their all meaning.
No, muhajir wasn't wonderful. Subhan Allah, Allahu Akbar. Yep.
And that your direct proof of say normal, right that we said what is
the direct proof because we know that he made Daedra they
themselves call him Mechi. They know he's mucky. Somehow. Your
Mala? halacha better than what I'm saying? Subhan Allah.
Masha, Allah, Allah.
I want to point something that you said, which is that this is an
academic discussion about our religion.
and not an attack on a group of people. You also mentioned that in
the formation of Pakistan, Sunnis and Shias work together for a
common good in the negation of Qadiani. As they brought their
fitna, the Sunnis and the Shia has also worked together. This is the
beauty of our Sharia, and our tradition is long enough to handle
so many situations that every single motive has its own rules.
Can you explain it? And then what are the rules? What are the
parameters, you can say? preconditions limits would have
you on this kind of
unification towards a certain end?
I mean, I think that would be, you know, based on the masala Mufasa
principle, the harms, and benefits of working with another
denomination is more beneficial for the general Muslims. Yeah.
That is, that is the correct way, and especially here in the West.
When it comes to
Muslims, I don't think there is much discrimination between
Shia and Sunni, for example, in many of the issues like for
example, LGBTQ, for example, or issues. So I think issues like
this,
they should be a form of unity. And
and this doesn't mean shit, I will also want to clarify is some
people they have got this misconstrued understanding of
unity, which means that you can compromise your beliefs. No, no,
you know, it's, it's like, almost, if you work with somebody, this is
tantamount to compromising beliefs, not
the consignee. You know, you can reconcile between the notion of
working with a denomination that you strongly disagree with, for
the common benefit of Muslims and Islam. And at the same time,
adhere to what you believe without any compromise. I don't see any,
you know, mutual exclusivity between these two notions. There
is
correct me if I'm wrong. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. And there's a
there's a young guy named Hudson Shami, he's Lebanese. He's one of
the best activists that we have online.
Hasn't Shem you, you've seen his stuff. When it comes to LGBT. When
it comes to Israel. He's one of the strongest voices. And I still
have the intention. I don't know if he's gonna see this. But I
still have the intention of having him on because he's not. Firstly,
he's not even like a chef that's going preaching these things that
we don't believe in. He's a regular guy happens to be a Shia,
Lebanese, Shia. But his activism is great. Like, he's extremely
strong, powerful, what he does, and I actually respect him for
that. So I do want to have him on but it's so important that we
don't have we undo this, Johanna. Okay, that just because somebody
does something with somebody one time for a reason that he's now
compromised his Dean, good. Now, I don't know if we, I'd like to
bring up some twit, some tweets that you put out that is trying to
bring together some of the the groups within the Sona who are
like 95%, in agreement on everything. But sometimes those
few matters, get in the way, and break them apart. So it seems that
you do while we're having this discussion on Harris theology, but
you also have a great desire to bring
Muslims together. Would you like to speak about that for a second?
Yeah, so I think, like I said,
especially here in the West, I mean, so let me just give you a
bit of a bit of context here. Yeah.
By the grace of Allah, I've done. I've been an imam for the last
1314 years. Alhamdulillah
so I was in Bradford for almost seven years, six, seven years. And
hamdulillah down there. We have majority Muslims.
majority Muslim even in the schools, you know, in high school,
etc. We have majority Muslims.
And as you know, inside it will be yes. A human is the product of the
environment. What's the city again? You said Leeds. Bradford?
Bradford? Bradford? Bradford? Yeah. Sham offender. You haven't
heard of it. So hello. Oh, no. I went I did go. Oh, yeah, I did go.
Yeah. Did he say Bradford is very nice. Birmingham was industrial
Bradford had this beautiful huge park and it was prettier city I
think then than Birmingham was Yeah.
So now, everywhere I've been, this is more in south towards south, a
bit close to London.
Down here, the demographics
are quite different.
So, of course, I'm going through a journey where I'm learning and
trying to do it myself. So, you know, comparing and contrasting,
you know, seven years there six, seven years there, six, seven
years here. And I believe the majority of UK at least,
apart from places in Bradford and Birmingham and Leicester, and
Preston, these places,
non Muslims, and then of course, in the West majority non Muslims.
Yeah, our challenges.
You know, we've got very big challenges like LGBTQ, for
example, atheism, and all these other isms and schisms are on the
rise. And the attack on Islam and Muslims is not on a specific group
is all of us. So this has made me think, you know, we need to do
something about this. We need to actually, yes, this doesn't mean
we compromise our differences. And we say, you know, we unite in
theology, which is impossible. I think that's, that's impossible.
It's not actually impossible. It's most likely the other thing is,
you know, it's never happened. Yeah. And I don't think it'll ever
happen. Yes. It's never always been there. And it was always stay
there. So is normatively impossible to even call to notion
of theological unification. I think that's impossible. Yeah.
So So my thing is now that I think even polemics, and to be honest,
now I need to confess I'm also polemicists, may Allah forgive me,
I'm not good.
But even polemics are polemic should be discussed in certain
context in a certain way, you know, we have a double bathroom
manava
your classroom settings, maybe academic setting, maybe, you know,
in writing, for example,
because what I'm seeing is, a lot of the online limits especially is
creating further disunity within the
Muslim denominations. And that is becoming a barrier for us to work
together in order to defend Islam.
Which the problem
is that I'm not going to mention any names, yes, any places, but
just generally speaking, I've seen messages
where they will happily take pictures with priest and
Christian, I'm not saying this is a bad thing. You know, you're
working with Armageddon, for example.
You can have your opinion about that and whatever. But then there
will be terrified, petrified to sit with another Muslim from
another denomination. And I've been told,
please, let's not take a picture.
Buddy. I will take a picture of it and go and put a point of view
please, nobody take a picture Subhanallah I realize whoa, this
this, this is really bad. So we do have this unfortunately, in some
areas. And I think we need to, we need to we need to do something
about it.
There is another shift that we had on who's on the same wavelength as
you. Okay, Yama, the Madrid of Chef summit in NUS
Chef nurudeen? Yeah, yeah, he's Yeah, I'm in contact with the
mashallah is far from me. I'm actually he's also the same
mindset, Mashallah. It's something where you could say, okay, we can
recognize if the left that are here, but it's actually
a MEF Seta, if we don't recognize to not recognize that there are
add that there are enemies who don't care what your message is.
Exactly. Exactly. And regarding that group, there, there has to be
a unification of sort of a response to them. Yes. When it
comes to that, that's extremely important. But yeah, I would say
is a challenge. Yeah, I did. And in student sanctuary recently, he
says to me, well, and I think, you know, now it makes sense. Why
being sectarian and more easy.
Because you're, you're living with you. Yeah. And you will have these
people in every denomination, every group, you know, who who
don't want this is like your optimal or you have the Muslim
and some 100 Hadith scholars saying that the moderator minded
people from two different groups will get on with each other more
than the extreme and the moderator of the same group 100% 100% too
intelligent people from I would even say different religions
altogether. Intelligent but also emotionally healthy. Like they
were raised well, and they didn't have any dramas in their
upbringing. Can
Probably they only have 5% in common.
But they're wise enough and mature enough to deal with each other in
a beneficial way.
In contrast to emotionally unstable people who have 95% in
agreement, and only 5% disagreement will find a way to
create a civil war over the 5%.
The proof of that is that you have neighbors all the time, I think
most of
probably in your youth, most of your neighbors were Muslims. In my
youth right now, from my youth until now, I never had a little
Muslim cul de sac, right? Or Muslim, a block a street or
something.
But you learn to survive, right? You set in your mind parameters.
He in His mind have parameters. We both know the parameters unspoken
the and we're very happy as neighbors, right? Why can't that
apply then?
To a McAuliffe?
Right. And by the way, many people who talk and because I talk about
Harris theology a lot. I care about it. Because I care about the
consistency of rational consistency in your beliefs ology.
And learning what your beliefs are. We got
we have some of these people of these heretical groups that are on
our cul de sac, right? And it puts to the test now, okay, what is the
adapt, you have to adapt to the neighbor. Right? Although he's
that he's also a neighbor. So he has the hook of a neighbor.
There are the limits of the Messiah of the keeping company of
the heretical groups, but you also have the local the rights of a
neighbor.
Okay, so when somebody a child says, Oh, those are the people
that you said, they're all fake Muslims. I didn't say fake
Muslims, but that's how kids interpreted right? That these guys
are just fake, right? I said, okay, there is Aki, the point,
boom, boom, boom, but there's also the adab the manners of how to
treat a neighbor. Right. And that's what we have to do here.
And that's what I said, I love about that. The Cydia has an adapt
for every single situation, it gives you an answer for every
situation. And it's, it's a way of living, that doesn't require you
to be some emotional extremist. Like it's practical. It's
something that you can live with. If not, you wouldn't have a
billion people in an OMA and Omar was impractical.
And you had to be some mean person or go to some extremes. This
almost couldn't house 1 billion people is the common person would
sell is this crazy? It's too much.
Question? Sure.
I've heard a psychological reasons. But maybe you can shed
light on this. Why is it be feel more of a threat from someone who
is a Muslim? Yeah. And like you said, 95% agreement and 5%
disagreement? Yeah, we need more of a tear from this person. We
feel the need to refute refute this person, then opposed to a
person, for example, who's not even a Muslim? Yeah.
I think that the reason is that people have an IRA over their
religion. Right? They love their faith. They love their Deen.
They love their religion.
And that's the first reason
they believe and feel something I love is being corrupted. Whereas
the non believer himself, he's not corrupting it. He's just not even
accepting it. So he's so far. Right, but he is corrupted, for
example, to heat.
So this mashallah, in that example, Christine's there also.
Okay. I think that's the type of weakness from our standpoint,
because we're,
many times people adopt Islam more than Allah Himself. Right? The
adoption is like Islam.
More so than is caring about Allah Himself. So it's almost I think
that's a it's a person hasn't gotten developed enough. Because
if you did, then you say, Hold on a second. Hey, guys, Christian
neighbors, atheists, neighbors, that you're our there's our
Creator there that you're talking about. Right? Whereas they there's
more of an affinity to Islam, then that Allah that Allah, right. And
that's one reason. The second reason is that Orthodoxy is seems
to be threatened
from within, and it's confusing to the next generation. So when
you're transmitting your religion is very easy to say. We're
Muslims. They're Christians, or Muslims. They're Hindus. That's
easy for any kid to understand. Okay, we were right.
We're on the right belief, they're on the wrong route. But then when
you see a sect, it's harder to explain to a kid that not every
Muslim is doing it. Right.
It's, it's confusing to a kid. And I think people are very nervous
about that confusion. So either they have to go to an extreme or
they go to the opposite extreme, which is not well, it's like a
Unitarian type of or
inter intra perennialism type of religion, where alcohol we're all
Muslims, and we don't hate anybody. We don't dislike anybody
because they don't want the tension of having to make tough
see. And so this is what we believe this we don't believe this
is how we interact.
And Alana is best. If that's, that's a very good emotional
insight. Yeah.
You said mentioned the Veda
patient, do you think is also an issue of identity? Like this group
for example, group A believes that the more upbeat the true
interpreters of a hello sunnah, for example,
to now.
Somebody else saying no, no, they're also Allison. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. You know, what comes to mind is? I'm not sure if you've read
where she comes up. Korea has mentioned one of the books is
mentioned. Five McGraw Hill of development. Shyama tree idea. No,
I didn't read this book. Yeah, he's cutting. He's in the Dima
mentioned the first Mahara was Mohammed the Queen, where the
schools were initially developed by a boon to Lonnie and masoumeh
to DD and McCauley called the Mahabharata value,
or the value where there was a sort of rejection. When they first
met when the ideas first met. This you're talking about, like from I
would say,
between 400 580 400, between 405 50 Hijiri.
The rejection was only from the majority side.
So for example, Amanda, Sophie in terms of the law, and the matter,
the scholars, they were using harsh words, against a Shire. But
there was no harsh word from the Shire. Not that the Shire, were
not aware of the Hanafi maturity because you had who you had, in
that time, you had the Imam joining
with his movie.
And your Imam Ghazali, for example, and you know, they were
they were aware of the Hanafi school, and school was the mind to
the school. But on one side, and the harsh words were from the
mouth to the sides, but then in the age, there was like a far
home.
Person who played a big role in this was a Razzie Imam Razi,
Abdullah when he traveled to Mao, l transaksi. Anna, and, you know,
he met with the modern scholars subunits. And the point here is,
she from the Berkeley actually mentioned this, he said, The
reason there were these harsh words from the scholars of MMA is
because they thought that the most appeal of the Aqeedah of
however many is actually theology coming into from Iraq. And
I think, psychologically, you know, just naturally when you
first hear of different views, you can think up do you resist?
Yeah, a lot, a lot. One. And that's the purse the perspective
of the someone who's the Imam, someone who's the leader. And
there is a social order that he believes he's protecting to. So we
could look at it negatively and say, that's his neffs. And it's
hot Berryessa. And it could be that right? And also could be that
this Imam, this leader, is actually the leader, not just of
the update, but also of a social order. Like this community views
me as the leader, right. Now, there's another Alpha coming in
claiming proofs and knowledge. Everyone's going to be diverted to
them now. And then the structure that we built up forever, and
we're all happy with is going to collapse. A lot of times it's that
two people like the social order that they're in the Tabea of the
social order is that this is the chief of the Akita and the
protector of the religion.
And as a result that can never be questioned, right? So that's also
Ironman. Right? It's also a factor and unfortunately, all these
factors are like inside so we can't really tell what his what
right, but the cure one of the cures for this is like the Hebei
always say that you will not qualify in the sight of Allah as a
willy until you are satisfied with your soul to be used to wipe the
garbage Subhanallah SubhanAllah.
Like imagine like there's a garbage big garbage container.
Nobody washes the garbage container
Right, those huge garbage containers that are outside
buildings and stuff, nobody ever washes them. They're closed the
truck comes empties the mouth. No one would ever go around with
their body and wash it but the bad we they say you're not humble
until you're satisfied and accept that for the sake of this OMA not
your hand, your soul will be your rule will be used to scrub the
inside of the garbage container of the OMA. So imagine that level of
humility and terracotta Reesa that takes a lot of spiritual work a
lot of spiritual work and I remember of that kitty meow he has
transmitting that. One of the Habib said that when you go out
for Dawa love personal a bad more than you love Tao. Because the day
comes, for whatever reason that you have to leave the microphone.
And he said you shouldn't desire this. But if it comes, right my
luck keep us all established in doubt if he's to be the law. But
if it comes that day, you should take your family out to dinner and
you should be very happy. Because now you have what's a federal
you're longing for a bed dinner, right?
But you can't be free to something that you don't know. You can't be
happy to now be doing something that you've never done before. So
that a person should have a lot of private worship.
emetic was approached by I believe it was who was it? Ah, web Web.
Even worse, even worse. IGNOU I've came and met Malik. He said I
arrived in the masjid before fetch.
And I saw a medic sitting before fetch, having prayed tahajjud and
is sitting now waiting for the Atlanta Phaedra to go. And we had
a chance to speak and I said, Mojave Nevada, like what is this
like luminescence of your face? And Malik said, Hey, take for
yourself.
A private a bed between you and Allah privately does nobody but
you and Allah subhanaw taala and Allah to Allah will cast the light
inside your heart, Allahu Akbar. And that's the spirituality that's
going to undermine the humility needed for people to do Tao also
the attacks because you've been attacked. Right? And you were
disinvited. And I don't understand how you were disinvited over the
beard when you have a beard that's mashallah right um,
how they attacked you over the beard maybe just made one comment
that the beard may not be on here necessity in all the methods are
some some very minor thing and he got disinvited over that. Yeah, I
said it's more than I'd even mentioned the Hanafi school listed
thing, so I want to go a lot to them as
I said, school, why because I've got Shafi teachers and they've
told me themselves. Yeah, it's yeah, just just to learn if you
look I've got Mashallah. Mashallah. And it's
Subhan, Allah, the Hanafi is here, who like have corporate jobs? They
all say a book from Jordan. Right, which I'm sure you know very well,
right. And then the Hanafi scholars know very well, and they
refute it very well, but, but for a regular everyday Muslim, right,
he's got a corporate job and he's nice to have a regular beard. They
excite this Hanafi book from Jordan, right, a Jordanian scholar
and all the Arabs. Is there any Arab that has a fixed length
anymore?
Can you name an Arab with a fixed length? Yeah. So some of our
teachers they
shift, shift more focal Moraga of Damascus was essential Salah
Moraga today, I lived Yeah, they've got my address on my head
now.
In Istanbul.
The thing is, look, I mean, if a person has a fist, and that's
their position,
and hamdulillah the problem that I have is where the entire deen is
judged based
on the length of the beard, And subhanAllah is, and we look even
at the Hanafi school, you had chef Imams al kofi. Rahim Allah Dan.
Yeah. Okay.
I mean, just to sound a bit polemical. And he had a trimmed
beard. Yeah, right. Yeah. That sounds a bit polemical, it. Sure.
Oh, for sure. That's what makes us
half isn't it to me.
Most of the refutations that people use, especially the within
the Hanafi school from Imams that it goes to the you know, he he's
the guy and we look at his beard. Look at the beard of Scheffel
Islam, the last year called Islam the Ottoman Empire was Hanafi
Sheikh Mustafa, somebody Subhanallah
humble Fatah, Buddha most
His life yes near the end look at his beard Are we seriously
suggesting now? This was quite honestly
oh no yeah it's unreal It is unreal that this so disinvited
Ashley IG bernicia IG and what program comes in palace
Palestinian program got IG?
Unbelievable. I do think is chef you know that program got
cancelled. But Allah open doors to seven eight programs. Yeah. But I
do think some of the people that tried to cancel me, the teacher
called me. Oh my gosh, Sivan and what do you say? Nothing. We
didn't even discuss it because, you know, because the issues about
Palestine, you know, everybody
So Alhamdulillah I mean, yeah, these things happen. And it's
just, you know, you mentioned something Subhanallah you know
about humility. And, honestly, you don't make me introspect about
myself. You know, Imam was Ali speaks about it's about the hope
of earshot, the pressing people
listening to you and you know, there's, there is a, you know,
there's something something to this
is unmotivated.
And it's autobiography, which is published novels in English
deliverance from edit, you know, to this crisis, what is the
intellectual you could say? And just by the way, just to clarify
some Orientalism even some unfortunate some must have
academics are influenced by this people like, say, now with Ebola,
Imam Ghazali at shaping EMA enough schema? This is this is this is
wrong.
What it says was, it was more to do with an epistemic question of,
you know, how to explain your team. Yes, yeah, it wasn't, he had
doubt in my mind, because I've been doubt human is scope of
suffering. And he mentioned that very clearly. But I don't know
why. This, this notion that he had doubt in my mind has become so
famous in some circles in academia. So that was one of the
things and the third thing is the spiritual world.
And we need to understand that Imam of society at that time, he
had probably the highest post that you can get, he was a professor in
the Madras Nova Mia, which was like the Harvard in the Oxford at
the time. And he mentioned to the students, and those students were
not just normal students. In students like me, there were
scholars, they were Allamah, you had the grid and Imam, Ibn
Abdullah al Maliki.
He was also he also took benefit from Imam was Sally. And she had
an entourage he was the title was given her budget to Islam. And he
mentions in that he says,
I knew that, you know, I looked this dunya like this entourage, I
love this fame. And if I went straight to Johanna SubhanAllah.
And he was in this, you know, this dilemma for almost like two
months, he didn't know what to do. In the morning, I would convince
myself No, I'm doing the work of Dean, you know, and teaching
people, but then he would question, are you doing it for
Allah? Or is it in today's context? Is it for the views, so
it was, you know, and he had this and he, I think he developed an
illness, if I remember correctly, is melancholia, a form of
depression. And he eventually stopped speaking. And then there
was rumor in the bucket that after that, you know, somebody's doing
magic on him. So, but he said, even the scholars couldn't
understand that this is the highest position you can get in
deen and duniya at that time, and how can you be depressed in such a
high position? Not knowing that this is the position it was
because of this position, I was feeling like this. And subhanAllah
like long story short, is sacrifice this. And one of the
things you mentioned about cleaning it, he was a janitor.
Damascus for almost.
So the, the professor at the mercy of Damascus would say, to Islam,
Muhammad Ali says this, and he was you know, cleaning the toilets.
Subhan, Allah Subhan you know, so, I mean, that's one of the best
examples because I remember COVID being sort of like that. Because
if you are somebody who is always used to be around people,
it's a it's a pickup on one sense, in the sense that you can never be
down because you're always surrounded by PE always too busy.
You're too busy to ever really be down about anything. You're also a
kind of always too busy for too much introspection. Right. And so
COVID to me was a great test. It was a great test of Nicholas so if
you're working so hard, so called FISA beat Allah, all right now,
the masajid are shut down. Now you should be doing a battle for the
sake of Allah. So the same amount of time and the same effort should
be put there. So I felt that that was it.
It's an amazing tests and a great thing that happened. I have to
honestly say I even miss even though during COVID I didn't like
it. But now I miss it.
Because now it's back to constant work, work, work, work work up
early, sleep late. And it's constantly nonstop nonstop,
Hanukkah, Hanukkah, Hanukkah, but
you missed those times where you had, there's nobody, there's
nothing, no one's tugging at you. Good. And you had Frog. Frog means
like free time.
Let's take two three questions from online. Is that okay, before
we wrap up? Okay, chef, I mean, I'm always a bit reluctant to take
questions, but he shall let's see if we can answer. Sure.
All right, brothers, sisters. Let's see what you have here.
Ask a question related to this. And rather than something that's
one of those polemical dramatic ones
I know those are the things that are the tabloid questions I call
them tabloid stuff right?
There's a lot of stuff that has actually nothing to do with what
we talked about but it's a Sunni and Shia a ping pong match have
been here back and forth back and forth and Cut
cut
cut let's see
okay, so it seems everyone in the chat has gone into the debate
they're debating each other
they're debating I don't know if they're even listening to the
stream anymore right
because you bring bring up one of these sects luckily didn't bring
up the Qadiani is they because they sit around waiting for
somebody to say their name because
that's what it seems like then they get obsessed with that person
for for a week until they find someone else.
Were the 12 Munna fix considered companions? The question says is
the question are they
companions hormone ethics or ism whenever can a companion
completely different?
I mean, the disc based on the discussion that we had, they're
completely different disciplines.
So the value of them is completely distinct concepts. Good.
Okay, next question. What do you consider more dangerous?
A liberal, wayward Muslim? Or a pious, deviant scholar?
How do you measure that? How do you
I would say I'd have to say the pious
with deviation has is dangerous in one area, which is the rash of the
beliefs. The liberal wayward person is dangerous for the sins
of the outside the external sense, but just tough to see. But does
that mean liberal by liberal meaning the actions are liberal in
their theology? No have nothing to do with the dean.
Someone nothing to do with the dean. And he's a leader for
example. He's like a leader of the people.
Yeah, but or somebody who is a pious mustard going person, but he
has deviations. Because if they're liberal, for example, liberalism,
liberalism. Yeah. Yeah, it's like it's like a theology, isn't it?
Yep. It is. It's very dangerous one. They tend to this source.
It's worse than these sects. Yep. Yep. So that's your answer, folks.
If you're talking about liberal just as in someone who listens to
music in hangs out with girls is different from someone who knows
what liberalism is and believes in it and puts it out there he's
almost at that point like Neo Morteza Lee. Yeah. Or we're less
than more worse than them. matassini were scholars of Quran
and FIP Oh Allah, and they were all color and they were mucked up
in in there, you know, they had tough with AI day bad etc.
What's the question there?
How do you check your sincerity we talked about
how
when people discover your work, let's say for example, somebody
does some kind of work that becomes known to the people may or
may be in the dean or the dunya. How do they
Keep their sincerity in check.
So I think I heard one of our teachers saying that when you hear
something good, or somebody praises you, or you realize your
work is being accepted, the first thing you need to do is praise
Allah and negate yourself. Subhanallah
you take first Alhamdulillah this is all
Allah has filtered Omar to filthy lavender. And then you negate
yourself that, you know, it's not me. You know, just just to use
Habib, you know, the, the fighter? Yep.
That's what he does, right? So, I mean, yeah, he's, he's instigating
himself, despite being a champion, he's negating himself upon
negating yourself is very important. Because when you once
you start believing that you are that person, that's been the
problem.
It's amazing how you said that just earlier I was, there was a
meeting as a business meeting. And it went so well, and they closed
the deal.
So the leader of this Muslim group, that was close the deal, he
stood up. And what people didn't expect, he said, all this success
is from Allah subhanaw taala. That's not from us. And he could
have used anybody else to do this. But he chose us for a reason. So
we should be thankful and we should be grateful. So I felt like
that is a true Muslim businessman. Right? That's like a great
example, this person is a great example of how to succeed when
you're a Muslim businessman. Business. So you you close the
deal, they take out bottles, right? And they uncork the bottle.
So that's what they do a solid waterfall model. But this he stood
up and he negated himself. And he praised Allah and he said, it
could have been anybody else. Right? been chosen to do this kind
of work on a level.
All right, we kept you on for an hour.
Pretty much almost an hour.
Just Sokoloff. Karen, thank you so much. Any next topic that comes
around, but in the later we'll have you back on?
Any final words that you'd like to say?
To the nasiha? I'm to the to the audience.
Say
I think
maybe it's something that just comes spontaneously comes to mind.
No, it was something, something that you mentioned, what was
happening with Eliza and Christine.
We are all in pain. And we are making too high for them. And we
are trying to create much as much awareness as possible. Though with
that.
My advice, humble advice to myself would be and everybody else that
we should not forget our own selves. Where are we going?
This massacre that we are seeing, and this genocide is unfolding
before our own eyes. If I'm not changing,
if I'm not doing Toba, if I'm not getting closer to Allah, if I'm
not stopping,
you know, since then, this is something that should worry me.
That massacre and a genocide is not changing my life. The only
thing that will change my life. Next is my own death. But that's
too late.
But I think in what was happening globally, we should not forget our
own selves and our connection with Allah subhanho wa taala. And if
I've said anything in here, that's beneficent. It's Tofig from Allah
subhanaw taala and if I've said it's incorrect, or if I've
offended anybody, in any way, I do apologize. And that's from
shutdown and my neffs and due to sheer shadow mystery, I want to
say especially desert Mala Fehrenbacher Luffy Coby come to
you. I mean, we
are trying to protect you preserve you accept all your efforts. And
may Allah subhanaw taala keep your shade over this for a very, very
long time. I mean, I mean, likewise yourself and my lats
allah God grant us your Samba for a very long time to come. And
constantly and always our hearts are connected. May Allah keep it
that way. We're so happy to come on. You don't see but we have a
full house studio here. Oh my right 1-234-567-8910 And now the
pizza has arrived. So 12 brothers came when they knew that you're
coming on that's live and on the between book for me to care for
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on the logistical off here and we'll be looking forward to have
you on regularly in sha Allah. Allah does that go lock it in so
much thank you.
Why they come Silla Mara was alive I get
there you have a My brothers and sisters that was checking
hammered yesterday Hanafi. I remember very, very well, that
evening or that day sorry that day in which we met for the first
time. And he elaborated on this thesis of the proof
of the attributes of believers in the Quran the attributes of the
companion in the Quran that fit directly with a bucket and O'Meara
nyesha.
Right that they cannot possibly be hypocrites. Okay, so it's an
amazing talk. And then this is years later, that we're able to
share it with everybody here.
In other news, you all know that the Catholic Church has basically
based gamed over themselves. Game over as soon as I saw it, you know
what came to mind, which is very weird because the retro era that
we're living in Mario Brothers when you game over and you fall
into the very first Mario Brothers, right? When you by the
way, you can play that you can still play it on the computer for
free. It's uploaded.
He's running. And if you fall into the,
like, the pot, you go down into a black hole, right? And then he
goes belly up, and it says, game over, right.
There you go.
Did you all hear that? Good?
Play it? Yeah, play it. That's it. Mary. It's all your over you're
finished with and that to me was the
this is it?
Yeah. Play it play the sound so everyone hears it knows what I'm
talking about. This was my favorite game. It still is.
where's the where's the sounds?
Not Oh, okay. That little that's music.
That little sound effects when he falls into the pot. All right.
That's it. He's dead.
Nintendo 64. No, Nintendo 001. The very first Nintendo, doo doo doo
doo doo doo. Finished. There. I used to play that game was only
getting my head. There's only given that existed. You know,
there was a time when there was Atari. So who knows this Atari
ping pong. Ping Pong was 10 pixels this way 10 pixels this way. And
one pixel in the middle. And you just play ping pong back and
forth. That was a loss if you had that. We spent all night in your
basement. Then they came out with Nintendo the very first Nintendo
big box like this with one slit and that's it and he came with one
game. Mario Brothers and duck nobody played Duck Hunt. You
played Mario Brothers that gun never worked right?
And then to buy a game was like 60 bucks back in the day was a huge
amount of money to buy a game and they have come out with one game a
year right? So you played Mario Brothers all day and all night
played Mario Brothers then somebody I don't know who
discovered
there was a warp zone that when you that there's a certain pot you
can go down and you immediately jump three levels.
Okay, that's how we sat fun back in the day. And nobody knew about
this pot I think someone wants to discovered it by accident and that
was news. That was big news. That was like the the dark web
you went to school and you told everybody listen at this level if
you pass this you jump into that pot go down it you're not going to
die. You're gonna jump three levels right as big news
let's close off with da by the way, what's our schedule?
This only
this this week is our last week then we have ombre ombre for
youth.
We're going now we're taking 22 youth
and 18 adults
what does that say?
What does it say?
agonist Maverick
the scars of Arizona twist the Quran too. If that wasn't the
case, we wouldn't have * like somebody out of your medical savvy
said we would be able to bro that's not * they are in
agreement on the foundational cuts a explicit unequivocal versus they
then interpret what should be interpreted must be interpreted
which are unequivocal than the verses and the Sunnah agree on the
cuts a versus okay no two people disagreed like the trunk of a
tree. Once you pass a certain level the they branch out. What
does that branching out as differences were different
opinions are inevitable or belong by Allah's command and
Will that a ads are equivocal. They could mean two different
things.
Or they do require a definition. Okay.
So that's extremely important to understand. What is the difference
between an opinion, a school of thought and a sect, a sect breaks
away from explicit versus cut the verses a school of thought is an
interpretation of equivocal
in explicit validity versus that is a big difference in theology
that you must understand. Sometimes I feel like I say it
every single stream, I don't care, I'll keep saying it. Right. It may
not be a concept that people grasp. A sect differs on where
there is no difference allowed. That's why they're a sec to be
banished. A school of thought differs where difference is
allowed.
And an erroneous group gives an interpretation where
interpretation is allowed, but it's an incorrect interpretation.
Good. That's what we just call them. They're in a mistake.
They're just making a mistake. But they're not outside of medicine. I
feel sometimes I say it, but I guess we'll just keep doing it
again. We just keep saying
a 20th time and it probably will be 200 time because there is no
there was a guy in New York, he won. There was a woman in New York
City, she won Teacher of the Year 30 times in her career.
How long has a career like 40 years she wanna 30 times? So they
asked her, How do you keep?
What mentality is it? What is it that you keep being such a good
teacher? Okay, but you're teaching the same grade for 40 years, 30 of
those years, your Teacher of the Year?
She said such as why statement she said, because for me, it may be
the 30th time I've taught it. But for my students every year, it's
their first time. And that's what we have to keep in mind. The
selfish person was I said it 30 times okay, but that's their first
time. Right? So what happens when you have a new baby a fifth baby,
you're not going to potty train him. Right?
I taught five babies how to wear underwear and be potty trained. Or
I'm not doing this anymore, right? You have to do it. Whether you
like it or not. Are you going to do it in a bad mood? You just
gotta put yourself in a bad mood. Not everyday we're going to let's
go let's flush the toilet. Let's watch it go arounds right? You
have to because you're shortchanging their childhood at
that point if you don't do that, and you're in a bad mood Let's go
learn this already so we can move on. Right
Carla
What's that? Little bit too? What did they call that too much
information
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