Shadee Elmasry – NBF 191 Fake Victim Woman Jailed for Lying
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The transcript discusses various criminal cases involving Speaker 1's actions, including grooming children and a woman who was targeted for posting about her. The case of Cumbria, where Williams admitted to lying and creating a fake account to cover up on accusations of rape and sexual assault, touches on the case of Cumbria where Williams claimed to have been beaten and made to " enjoy sex parties" by an Asian man. The transcript also touches on the case of Cumbria where Williams claimed to have been beaten and made to " enjoy sex parties" by an Asian man. The transcript also touches on the case of Cumbria where Williams claimed to have been beaten and made to " enjoy sex parties" by an Asian man. The transcript also touches on the case of Cumbria where Williams claims to have been beaten and made to " enjoy sex parties" by an Asian man. The transcript also touches on the case of Cumbria where Williams claims to have been beaten and made to " enjoy
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biller who either early or savvy Woman Well welcome everybody to
the Safina society nothing but facts live stream, where today we
are on
affairs of the OMA. That's going to be our theme as always on
Wednesdays. And as you know that
we look at some different stories related to Muslims and most of the
times related to Muslims and sometimes it's general news that
that we are interested. But today, we're going to look at one of
these direct straight up liars who everyone in the world sympathize
for. And I want to show you this picture here. Look, look at how
terrible this woman looks right. How could you not
sympathize with this individual? Well, surprise.
This was all fake.
Holding was fake. Now, I'm not saying that.
The court said that. Right?
She faked injuries.
She has been jailed after lying about Asian grooming gang abuse.
So you may have heard of this some while back. I remember I heard
about it. And I thought wow, these these guys are you know, nuts.
Okay, they want to see it again. Put it up to the screen. She says
okay, fine. For the dokkan or whoever it was said that there it
is. Oh, maybe the Instagramers can't see it.
Instagram was you see this? This is the news story for today. Okay,
and
looks pretty bad, right? Anybody who has any heart would be upset
about that. So her name is Eleanor Williams. She was found guilty of
eight counts of what's called perverting the course of justice.
In England. That's the language that they use. They're
following a trial at Prince Preston County Crown Court. She
admitted to this. The charges arose after she accused multiple
men Muslim and non Muslim over a period of three years of *
and trafficking her. The allegations resulted in a large
scale police investigation into crimes including human trafficking
child * offense offenses, and the investigation resulted in men
being arrested. Okay, the most high profile of the allegations
Williams made was on was in May of 2020 that she was taken into a
car, alright stuffed into a car. All right, taken to Barrow and
raved by Asian men one at a time.
While one of them held a knife to her neck.
Williams uploaded pictures of SOS to social media of serious
injuries she had sustained to her face and body. The impact of the
Facebook post was enormous, and saw protests against police in
Barrow and beyond. However, Williams story turned out to be
untrue. And the evidence instead pointed to her injuries as being
self inflicted, self inflicted, who's going to give themselves
that many injuries you really need to be sick in the head.
Unbeliev I thought that she would actually
put makeup on, right? I mean, you're actually going to injure
yourself.
And here we are like I remember myself being like, what I know
England's wild but I didn't think that the brothers were that wild.
Right? But I never doubted that her story was true.
Of course, I didn't have to pass a judgement so I didn't have to hear
both sides but from the immediate like, wow, that's terrible. What
happened to her? Because you can't imagine that you're gonna go to a
get a you know, the police station get a picture. They're gonna see
its makeup right? So you never imagined that now but that said
it's Facebook when she said it was on Facebook. Then I thought oh,
well, maybe it was makeup right? It's not makeup at all. It's self
inflicted. How crazy Are you?
Other allegations of * and sexual assault were also found to
be baseless. In some instances, she had deliberately fabricated
evidence including creating a Snapchat account purporting to be
in the name of a man that she later accused of *. So she
created an account for this guy.
Cumbria, police detectives were able to show that the account was
fake and had in fact been created at Williams home address. So
basically forensic,
forensic
What do you want to call it? Investigation here forensic
meaning going into the very minor details of things and tracing
things back to their origins? Just determined that this
was created in her address. So I guess that's not hard. It's it's
getting what we would call, for example,
you would get the judge to a court order that Snapchat release the
origins of this just the IP. When the extensive evidence of
inconsistencies of William's story were put to her. She broke down.
And she admitted it was all lies. Wow, senior investigative officer
Doug Marshall said, it's important for people to understand that
these were far from victimless crimes. Williams named specific
individuals as being responsible for kidnapping her, trafficking
her and abusing her individuals who are found to have committed no
such offenses. In a number of cases, her claims led to innocent
men being arrested by office who understandably took such appalling
allegations seriously. Williams have produced compelling evidence
when reporting her abuse. However, as detectives investigated her
accounts,
they found evidence that Williams had not only lied, but she
concocted evidence to support her allegations, including creating
fake Snapchat accounts, and inflicting injuries on herself.
I wonder the moment that the chief investigator realized, oh, no, no,
this is all a fraud. Right? I wonder like, what his face looks
like, at that moment, was he
sitting at his home office, right, like at his own desk? Or was he at
the Bureau and looking at files and stuff and said, this stuff is
not adding up? And I wonder if there was an assistant because
usually that's how it is in the movies. There's like an assistant
who picks up on it first, is like, Hey, boss, this stuff is not
adding up. And then the boss says, no, no, no, no, no. We already got
the convictions. Right. I wonder if that like anything like that in
the background happen. cases such as this, where someone has
invented crimes and concocted evidence are extremely rare.
What is not rare is physical and sexual abuse against children and
young adults. It occurs in barreling Cumbria and across the
country. Head of crime for Cumbria. Detective chiefs Dave
Stocker. That's interesting name for the case we're talking about
added wills, we have seen extremely serious offenses
committed and major investigations carried out in Cumbria. This case
is unique in magnitude and impact and the impact of that far
reaching consequences,
which resulted from the catalyst of which was a singular social
media post. It is something we are continuing to recover from in
terms of rebuilding trust and confidence within our communities
and with partners all as a result of claims that were made
maliciously and without foundation. That is why we are
taking the opportunity to once again reiterate to the public our
commitment to tackling sexual abuse in all its forms. I
encourage any victim whether of recent or non recent offending to
come forward today. So that's why you need real victims because
the amount of fake victims you have, it's just, this is not even
fake victim. Like this is a complete fraud. A fake victim is
like
I got looked at funny. Now I need therapy. I got looked at I got a
paper cut. Now I need, you know,
I need everyone's sympathy. I'm going to make Facebook posts all
about it. Let's let me read you the New York Posts or the New York
Times article on this, okay.
Because there's more detail there.
Alright, BBC. Sorry. BBC is the one who had it. The Guardian has
it too. Usually the Guardian is better actually. Yeah, let's go to
the Guardian article here.
So I'll be really interested in the psychology of such a person.
Like, never got attention growing up or what
is this severe narcissism. She's 22 years old. She's from Barrow in
Furness.
Barrow in Furness? I guess it's called.
She's convicted of nine counts of perverting the course of justice.
Okay. She had no significant signs of remorse. Okay. Her allegations
were complete fiction, says the judge. Now, I want to know the men
who were
the guys who were
Yeah, and why them right. Her claims went viral during the
lockdown of in May 2020 When she posted photographs of herself on
Facebook. Covered in shocking bruises with a black eye and a
partially severed finger. Wow, that
Have you got your number one? Yeah Facebook post why don't I go to
the police? Why put this on a Facebook post Facebook post is
that the first reaction to you that we got when
we had you know, broken down door or something like that is that the
first reaction that you get when someone bothers you is to post it
on social media not to call the police.
Okay, so that's always the first thing she said she had been beaten
and made to attend * parties by an evil yet clever Asian men.
Okay, who masterminded this and he's a Pakistani business owner,
friends of other Pakistani business owners, sacking
sounds straight from Jay Z. Oh my gosh.
Now these allegations spread far beyond Cumbria and sparked a
global solidarity solidarity campaign called justice for Ellie
with more than 100,000 Facebook members, and it had its own line
of merchandise featuring a purple elephant prompted rallies all over
the UK. All right. Allegations of a police cover up no there's the
police didn't take action because nothing was reported to them.
Cumbria police recorded 151 crimes linked to the case in 2020,
including malicious communications and harassment, as well as
criminal damage and public order offenses. Hate Crimes tripled in
Barrow that summer. In a letter to the judge against hate crimes
against Pakistanis, Williams maintained her innocence, but she
said she was sorry and devastated at how her Facebook posts affected
Barrow. I understand it's your job to believe the jury's verdict. And
that's okay. I know I have made some mistakes. I'm sorry. I know
it's no excuse. But I was young and confused. Oh, a lot of people
are young and confused. They don't result in other people's lives
being destroyed.
Because I want to know about the kids, the wife of the guy who was,
you know, found guilty of all this right? Is there a there was a
Pakistani man who was found guilty of all this stuff, okay. Does not
his wife probably divorced him as his
kids probably embarrassed hiding their faces in schools.
She said, I'm not saying I'm guilty, but I know I have done
something wrong.
We're in this world where you just speak opposite things in one
breath. Now. I guess. I'm not guilty, but I have done something
wrong.
Okay, and I'm sorry. Why would you apologize if you're not guilty?
I'm devastated at the trouble that has been caused in Barrow. If I
knew what consequences would have come from that status, I'd never
would have posted it. The judge said Williams held limited
responsibility for the community tensions resulting we're faced
with some community impact was foreseeable. He said but he said
the consequences of her lies. For the criminal justice system were
far reaching. There is a risk that genuine victims will be reluctant
as a result of this to come forward. That's why these fake
victims are so bad. The real victim sees everyone else hating
on these people and say I'm not going to come forward. I might be
called the liar too. Right. Now, a focus turned on Asian groomers due
to Williams post.
And these include
* allegations against three white men, one of whom named
Oliver gardener, simply had the misfortune to ask her for a light
for his cigarette on the street. That's the only time we ever met
the woman.
This guy next time he needs a light he's going to find like a
dude. Right? I'm not going to ask a nice young lady.
Another guy named Jordan trend growth spent 73 days in jail on
remand okay after he was accused
of * and drugging her, like drugging her first at knifepoint
then * her.
Goodness. What evidence okay.
But Williams reserved her wildest allegation for Mohamed Ramzan
get known locally as mo Remi.
Ramazan is a 43 year old men. Okay, he met Williams once at a
family party. William said he was in fact the head of an
international grooming gank
who first had * with her at the age of 12 or 13.
And then trafficked her to all his friends.
And he was trafficking dozens of other girls up and down England
and abroad.
Trent Grove Gardner and Ramzan all said they tried to kill themselves
as a result of being falsely accused. Okay.
That's insane. The amount of
that amount of
stress trend Grove and runs on we're in court on Tuesday.
ADC William sentenced. Can you imagine the relief? Like in these
guys lives that oh my gosh, finally, the truth has come out.
Okay. outside court jurors who had been invited to return for the
hearing, hugged the men and shook their hands. Okay. I guess that
means what jurors is she talking about? Jurors meaning the jurors
of the old case that convicted them. Williams Thank the judge.
After he passed sentence, then wave goodbye to her sister Lucy,
her mother, Alison Johnson, Lucy gave evidence for the prosecution
after Williams claimed that she had been trafficked by Ramazan to
Amsterdam and sold at a brothel, to the highest bidder. In fact,
the sisters had gone together to Amsterdam to celebrate Williams
18th birthday. So the sister herself said no, this is too much.
Right? Williams had six mobile phones, that she used to create
fake identities. You know what she's gonna get, she's gonna get a
Netflix documentary. This is definitely a next book, there's no
doubt about, there's no doubt and she shouldn't, but because that's
what happens, you need to be either do something
great, or you do something infamous, to get yourself a
Netflix documentary. But at least an Adele V didn't really harm
anybody. She stole from some upscale motor hotels that didn't
really lose any money you heard about her. So Anna Delphis, this
woman that she went around dressing up, and
she would basically make, she would say that she's an heiress,
an heiress to a German millionaire, and that she's about
to turn the age where she's going to get the money. So she would go
to these hotels, and she would tip with $100 bills. Now, that's all
the money she ever had. But because of that, the nobody
suspected her. So she would stay and say, Okay, let me why are you
the money from Germany. And then she had another phone with a
voiceover that claimed to be her representative, who had to sign
off because she's too young to sign off. So her rep has to sign
off. And she would go in with a German accent, accent and all as a
male and say, Oh, well, we'll send you the wire over should have any
minute now, right? Any minute, and then disappear for like two weeks,
you know, like you're dealing with someone in Germany, you expect
that. And then she went from hotel to hotel hotel, like months living
in these fancy hotels were ordering room service, but never
paying for anything. At one point, she did have a rich boyfriend. But
when when when when when he went broke, she then eventually even
went to a bank.
She went to a bank, and she got a loan. And she was like, like
inches away from she did get some of the loan. And her idea was
she's going to create a party scene with art pieces in the
middle of Manhattan. And the guy who was responsible for this loan
was totally fooled by this German voiceover and the documents right?
Like that she forged all these documents and everything.
And then finally she was caught of course that guy was downgraded.
Because if you got frauded by you know a kid basically, you're not
worth it handling millions of dollars and then and delvia
eventually goes to jail. That's the story. But that's really
there's hard there really reason people found it funny is because
the victims when you have a multimillion dollar hotel and you
stole $50,000 It's no one it doesn't affect anybody like no one
feels bad. But this guy these guys were suicidal the three guys said
they were suicidal
oh so much harm with her with her crime. Yeah, there was suicidal.
Yeah, you know, you never know what these court things. Yeah,
what you say might impact a sentence. That's true. Details.
Yeah, that's possible too.
So she used the six phones. She creates fake identities,
manipulates Snapchat accounts of real men she had met, okay, via
dating app Tinder or she or subscribers to her account on only
fence. That's where That's where she met the guys Tinder *
or in person.
Police were able to prove that one Snapchat account that purported to
belong to Trent Grove, and which seems to be goading her. Okay
about the rapes had in fact been created using the Wi Fi at the
Williams family home. In Barrow.
Williams gave police a list of 60 girls half from Cumbria and half
from elsewhere, who she said had been part of this
these brothels in this trafficking pimped out by Rob Zaanse. Gang.
But when police knocked on the girls doors, they were met with
blank faces never even heard of them. One of them
told The Guardian of her confusion at being confronted with the
suggestion that she had been groomed and abused with Willie
Sims, who was in the year above her in school, I had the police
come right out of the blue.
They said I was named by Ellie Williams that I was at these
parties in Preston. And this was not the case at all, said Chloe
now 21 years old. She said she had been on one night out with
Williams. So that's how she met Williams. They went out together
one night, though. She knew her to say hi, they were not close
friends. They went out once with a group. It's very weird that she
mentioned my name. Good.
Now what else do we have here?
Oh my bestie with the haircut
I'm gonna besties in here. It looks good on you by the way.
Yeah, no looks good. Looks good. Now we have a video here. We got
to watch this video. Police release CCC T CCTV footage showing
l&r buying the hammer in Tesco. And that's the hammer I guess that
somehow they have reason to believe we're gonna get to that I
guess where we have reason to believe I guess that she use this
hammer on herself. So that's the part that's messed up. Good. Now I
get this if you if you have a bad relationship with your dad, you're
going to create a life in the future that always has a bad guy
who's a guy a male bad guy. I can get that right.
But to this degree
something's wrong with you. Like you're sick in the head.
I see a comment here from Alma W. I hope you talk about the coma
loose oppressing the sister this week. I think you're talking about
Germany, right? Yeah, we can get to that.
She goes buys the hammer at Tesco. Chloe was as shocked as everyone
else. All right, when she saw Williams Facebook posts in May
2020. She still struggles to believe her injuries were self
inflicted. As a forensic pathologist, concluded they were
with a hammer Williams bought from Tesco a few days earlier, Chloe
bought a justice for Le t shirt and joined several solidarity
protests. I mean, this girl's got branding and everything. She
brands it with a purple elephant being her brand. Everyone had
something of justice for Ellie, everyone had something here there.
If it wasn't on you, it was on your car. It was in the front of
your house, because we were a small town and we all cared for
one another. Now I feel so stupid. She says to have joined all the
rallies. For someone who made up so many lies. It got very nasty
very quickly. Now this is the case where justice is found. Imagine
how many cases where justice is not found. And I think it could go
both ways. There are criminals who get away with things and fake
victims who get away with things right there. I mean, it's gonna go
both ways how frustrating you might be That's why to dime of
loom Euro Shaheed, you know that in one Hadith to die oppressed,
and the truth never comes out your whole life. That Muslim who dies
like that. He gets a free pass all of us. Yeah.
So that's something even even the whole bank failure, the SVB bank,
if that bank collapse in Egypt, do you think the people the justice
will be served, because this was a really good treatment of the bank,
the 2008 was terrible. All the investors were thrown in the
garbage. The depositors sorry, the depositors were thrown in the
garbage. And the banks were bailed out. This time was the opposite.
If you're an investor, you lead out to dry. If you're a manager,
you're fired. If you're a depositor, you're saved. The
government came in and and saved all the depositors you get all
your money back, because you just put your money in the bank, that's
all you did. They screwed up shouldn't be your problem.
They fired all the managers in 2008. So you're probably still
young at that time. Right? It makes sense that depositors like
last because it's just the nature felt right. Yeah, they did. They
were victims. Yeah. Then to use that bank.
You think though, like a bank is a bank? That's what people think.
Right? But a bank is not a bank. A bank is a company that's trying to
make money. You think that a bank is just a responsible place, where
you just put a deposit, you make withdrawal? I remember. I was
like, 16
macroeconomics class. Yeah, I learned about how banks became
like the biggest. Oh, yeah, this is a scam.
Paper note.
Oh, yeah, it was made as a scam to not have any money. Yeah, plus,
they lend out nine times. They're allowed to lend out nine times
more than what they have.
You think that you're just going for deposits and withdrawals,
which Shamil Malik knows everything about
now, I gotta tell you that story later.
I'm trying to guess not appropriate for the for the stream
trend Grove had * spray painted on the side of his house
Ramzan received more than 500 death threats. He had to leave
Barrow he had to move. Okay. A reporter from the local male
newspaper also left the town temporarily on police advice.
After receiving dozens of threats in response to a report she wrote
about Williams, his first court appearance, Indian restaurant
owners in the town repeatedly had their window smashed after a list
circulated on Snapchat purporting to show businesses complicit in
Williams abuse.
And isn't that what what the guy said? The Pulitzer I think, who?
It was really got the newspaper world going. He said, The secret
to sales. The secret to green is black, white and red.
Yeah, you heard about this. I learned this in school. As one of
the classes I remember very well, he said the secret to green is
black, white and red. So you know what that means. Okay. A black
man, a white woman, and blood will produce sales, which is the green.
Right? I remember that really well in school.
One was some restaurant tour, who asked not to be named said he lost
at least 80,000 pounds.
worth of customers after being named on the list orders dropped
from 70 to 80 a night to two or three and he was pursued down the
street by people.
Okay, making fun of him. And he was spray spraying beer in his
face. Wow. During Williams is sent you can't you can't run the clock
back on this stuff and fix it.
Because he's not getting his money back. He's not getting
you know any of this back during Williams's sentencing hearing at
Preston, Crown Court. Judge Altham asked if the prosecution was
asking him to sentence on the basis that the offenses were
motivated by racial hatred, which obviously you picked on the data
that's easy to pick on pick on some white guys, you might have
some pushback. Jonathan Sandra Ford, Casey said no, noting the
jury had heard
evidence of William's affection and emotional relationship with at
least one Asian men.
She's really sick in the head. So she fell in love with one of these
people. I figured
Oh,
wow, that's some deep psychology is possible. She got rejected. At
some point.
The court heard Williams continued to maintain her innocence, and
that two psychiatrists had been unable to diagnose her with a
disorder. But one doctor Lucy bacon said she had experienced
complex post traumatic stress disorder as a result of childhood
trauma. That's a bunch of nonsense. Okay, but that's not an
excuse, though. Fine. You have post traumatic stress disorder
fine, but that's not an excuse, though. Right? Why is it how are
you having because you plan stuff, right? You made a website you made
a post this was all premeditated, right? pre planned. So no amount
of psych so you know, psychology will legally make you innocent.
Yes, fine. You have issues we all agree agree to that everyone's got
some issues here and there. But legally, you're still as guilty as
anything else. That's the problem. That's honestly the good thing
with the Netflix series that comes out. Yeah, comes out after
everything already happened. So like, what all this stuff it just
sounds like one side is trying to get her to look insane. So she's
not guilty. And the other side is trying to make it look like the
worst possible thing. Like it's hard to like
the truth of the matter. It's kind of hard. Yeah. And you know what,
Netflix documentary next week documentary.
I gotta make a story. They have to go back into your childhood and
make the character complex because this is just like a black and
white thing right? Well in courts are black and white either
innocent or guilty but in real life, you're innocent or guilty
but you're also you know, there's a reason why the criminals commit
the crime right and sometimes those reasons and make you
sympathize with the criminal but a criminal
Yeah, we got time after especially you you got like many more hours
as a Hanafy. Now that's good. But your
your sympathy for that person gets wiped out if you victimize people
worse. Right.
Let's see what turquoise Why would anyone be offended with turquoise?
It was some silly stuff on the telegram chat. What do you speak
about that a woman who got threatened by LGBTQ in Germany
talking about in Germany or wherever? I think you're thinking
of something else. Tell me where that's
I'm gonna just read this real quick. I'm gonna look at this real
quick. Let's finish that person. Okay. Williams could not was not
able to diagnose her with.
Sorry, Dr. Martin lock
commissioned by the prosecution was not able to diagnose her with
anything. Okay. Bacon suggests that this may be commissioned by
the prospect or the prosecution. Yeah. Send you in there. Make sure
you don't find her crazy, right.
Okay. Now, some people said that this was because Williams was a
man. And some said that
she refused to engage with males. She wasn't mad. Know that the lock
was okay. And she refused to engage. Bacon said no. Who's bacon
first?
Get it? You know what, I really liked the guardian. It took a jury
just three and a half hours to find Williams unanimously guilty.
But one question they never asked to consider is why she told so
many lies. Well, that's not their job. The job of the court is Did
you lie? Yes or no? Right? Why do you want to lie? You want to a sob
story? You could tell yourself story somewhere else. But you did
commit a crime here. Okay, why she had framed so many innocent men.
And what had happened in her past which might have contributed to
her behavior. By the way, you have a bad relationship with men. It
ends up you hate men going forward, you have a very good
relationship with a dad. Oftentimes, those women will
follow terrible people down the rabbit hole too, because they like
can't believe that a guy could be bad. Right? And there was another
story about that too. Wild story about a lady she had a very
successful restaurant. Fell in love with the guy, right? This guy
was just a complete con artist, and ended up stealing all her
money and causing her to go broke. And she never left him. Right to
the point that even the money straight from the investors you
had an investor bring in like millions of dollars.
He took all of it over a period of time for gambling. She didn't
notice that he was a gambler, right? And she just followed him
straight. So blind hate and Blind Love is also there. It's sort of
the same thing on both ways.
Just opposite sides of it.
So the trial offered a few clues here we get to the psychology this
is the interesting part. Okay, not that this person deserves any
sympathy but I'm interested
All right.
She wrote an apology letter and she said done wrong on some of
this
shit. Like I noticed with her tweets and everything, the word
when she's talking about the issues, it should never send me
your eye. Like if those literally the words that you would say I
did, yeah, never send me or if that's true, she says, quote, done
wrong on some of this. That's it.
So she said she wasn't thinking straight when she made the
Facebook post alleging abuse at the hands of Asian and Asian
grooming gang. She said typed it up having typed it up when I was
just just hard discharged from the hospital. She had been receiving
treatment from the very injuries which prompted the groundswell of
public support. Okay, black guy bruises severed little finger.
What does it mean severed? Like, like she just took a knife to it
or what? Now a forensic pathologist concluding concluded
that all these injuries were self inflicted, all using a hammer.
Williams have brought from Tesco a few days earlier, and there's
footage as we said earlier of the hammer, but you're of her buying
the hammer. jurors have may have been left wondering what on earth
could cause someone to inflict such harm to themselves. A little
insight came during the first day of her sentencing hearing Dr. Lucy
bacon, a forensic psychiatrist who assessed Williams, multiple times
since 2019, diagnosed complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder
resulting from childhood trauma. Williams displayed all the key
symptoms said bacon including suicidal ideation and substance
misuse. Alright, so Dr. Lucy bacon is the forensic psychiatrist. Now
there's a forensic pathologist and a forensic psychiatrist. They can
said Williams had learned to maintain a mask to hide her
emotions,
which she said was very common in trauma. The psychiatrist said she
suspected undisclosed sexual abuse as a child. Okay, which she said
Williams had referred to opaquely in their session. First of all, is
Williams a trustworthy testimony?
Anything that this woman says for the rest of her life has to have a
pile of evidence this high. Okay. Even the evidence she makes it up.
Right. So undisclosed sexual abuse, that she referred to it
opaquely In their sessions. What kind of people are these a opaque
reference now? Yeah, you got to say it. You got to say what
happened for ubsa
sexual abuse happened
Now a male psychiatrist Dr. Martin Locke said Nana, there's nothing
wrong with her at all. Sentencing Williams to eight and a half years
in jail, Mr. Justice Eltham agreed with Locke, that there's no
evidence of a conclusive diagnosis, not even from bacon. He
said there were clear overtones of difficulties in her child's Is
there a human that doesn't have difficulties in the childhood, but
that was, but that there was little clarity over what those may
have entailed. Like, if you have a traumatic situation, you should be
able to clearly delineate, and there should be some other people
who knew about it. Right in your life. I feel like her parents were
parents. Yeah, where the mom and dad, you gotta say something about
Yeah, like, Well, why don't we get they get interviewed? Like, how
did your kid grow up and all that which they should be put on the
stent to prove? So if she was abused, wouldn't the prosecutors
put them on the stand? Right and say, we're going to ask you some
questions. At least you're the mom to tell us how badly the dad
abused her. So to soften the heart of the judge
Luis Blackwell. Williams is Casey said What is it Casey, I guess
lawyer maybe said social services were involved with the family
until Williams was eight.
All right, so that's something
in Barrow theories abound as to what motivated Williams when she
first started to tell police about being trafficked to * parties.
She gave officers a list of 60 other girls, this was not smart at
all, that were also abused. Half of them were Cumbria and half of
them were from another place. One that was from Cumbria. Okay, was
baffled. And we read that part already. Chloe, new Williams, they
went to the same school clothes, not a real name, by the way.
And she said
she stopped going to school, she would stay away from class, and
she was acting very weird. Alright. She remembers always
thinking that there was something very strange about Williams
behavior. Okay.
When both girls left school, Chloe saw Williams with visible
injuries, a scratch from her neck, to her collarbone, and bruises
around her neck and stuff like that. She knew Williams would
often fail to turn up at work, and would miss school for long periods
of time. She wonders if Williams ended up with drug debts. My
little Oh, listen to this. This is actually makes sense. This is her
classmate. Yeah. Oh, there's like Williams. Oh, well, she did all
this when she was like 1819 years old. So now she's probably like 22
or 23.
Now listen to this. I liked this. Chloe has a little theory, my
little theory is that she got herself into a lot of debt with
drugs. Okay, because she did do drugs. And she's got herself into
this hole that she can't get out of. So she just thought the only
way I can get out of it is to plaster all over Facebook a
different story and collect the money. I might be enough
motivation to her that. Yeah, I don't know why I didn't think of
that. It's always gambling debt. Always got to look at debt
whenever there's money involved.
Williams told the jury she took drugs she admitted cocaine and
marijuana she was frequently found by police to be out of it. Alone
and far from home. Right? Alone and far from well, if you're, if
you're if you're on drugs,
and you're
away from home and you're high and you're totally knocked out. I'm
sure they get raped all the time. Right. I remember being in
training in England one time, like poking you don't really get
knocked out from now you don't get knocked out from them. But other
stuff you get knocked up.
Listen to this. I was one time in a train in England. And it must
have been like, like 1231 in the morning. Late but not really like
middle of the night late. And there was a woman there. She
obviously had left a party or something. She was just out of it.
Like she her head was down. Her hair was all matted with like, I
don't vomit or whatever she was. She clearly had been dressed for a
party. She was just out of it. She was like this right? Now people
are clearing out and there's like one or two people. Right? And then
she gets out and it's this dark train station. Okay. And I'm like,
anybody could have gotten out at the same time. This woman has no
protection at at this point. Right? Zero at all. And that's
what happens when you get high and, and drunk and you're out of
out of the house at far from home. She said. He says you're alone and
far from home. They found her once in more came in Lancaster in
Preston and other parts of northwest England. She's so young.
She's really young. All right. Her mother reported her missing 32
times.
So I'm not surprised that at some point she did get raped. Right.
Could she have been
Could she have been a county lines drug mule? Interesting. Was me a
drug mule? You deliver. You deliver drugs. 18 year old girl.
You don't suspect it right.
Doug Marshall, the senior investigator on the case gives
short shrift to the idea that Williams may have been a victim of
something. If not what she told the police. He said she started
going missing only after detectives told her they she
thought she was lying. poonawalla is in the house to fund the
good she wasn't going missing when she was 1415 and 16. All these
missing episodes are all times when the police was investigating
her behavior. Okay,
gentlemen, we've got a party in the house now. Guna Wallace is
here. What's happening stuff I was in Ghana while I was here, a mod
is here. Okay, what's happening? Ahmad is here. Gonna Wallace here
are besties here.
Detective investigated every single episode. In the course of
this three and a half years inquiry. That's the only time that
you would go missing during the police investigations. There's no
evidence in anything that we've gathered to say Miss Williams is a
victim of any crime.
Perhaps she's just a compulsive liar. Some of the lies sometimes
it's usually the simplest thing right? Just enjoys the lie, just
enjoy seeing people go down.
Some of the lies she made up were ridiculously easy to disprove,
such as when she told people she had a baby son called Bailey. She
had never given birth at all, or that she had spent several weeks
in a hospital in a coma after being given a backstreet abortion
using knitting needles. Were what she gave an abortion she gave her
she claimed that she had given a an abortion using the needles of
knitting. You're gonna kill a baby with that. I mean, that's some
serious pushing and pulling the one thing I know, like, I don't
know much about this type of stuff. But I know like, cocaine is
like one of the worst things someone could do ever. Like people
think it's just like, oh, like alcohol. And cocaine, like no,
cocaine is like, Absolutely, like shaytaan like rips your soul out
of your body. stuff. Like God. And if you think about committing acts
of crazy violence, like self inflicted on cocaine to do that,
yeah. Oh, yeah. Because, you know, when they're on cocaine, they
grinder they do their teeth so much, they break their teeth,
clenching their mouth so much they break their own teeth. They're
in the 80s. In the 80s, cocaine was very popular in the sports
world. And a lot of violent sports, like hockey and football.
The guys used to
be on cocaine, very common, and they would go out there and I
remember a guy Bob Probert I'm pretty sure Mark Messier to who
was like my favorite player still is, but these guys would literally
behead other players on the ice. They would take out other guys in
ways that like would scare the whole league, right?
I'm pretty sure they want cocaine because fast forward to the 90s.
And they're all mellowed out. They don't do that stuff anymore.
Sentencing her the judge sounded pessimistic. Okay. For anyone
hoping for answers. There was no explanation for why the defendant
made the allegations. Why don't we just forget that just don't
remember people enjoy watching chaos ensue. Right? Unless and
until the defendant chooses to say why she made up all these lies.
We'll never know. In any case, said Muhammad, Ramzan falsely
accused by Williams of being the ringleader. Would we believe the
truth if she told us Yeah, anything she says at that point?
Cannot believe believe? Do you know the story? There is a saying
of
there someone tells you.
There's a lot of people who tell the truth, have white feet. People
who tell the truth have black feet out to people who lie, have black
feet, okay.
And obviously, your feet are covered with your shoes. So you
asked him Well, which one are you? He says, I have white feet.
So what is he?
Because both of them are gonna say have white feet. The black people
black feet will always lie. Right? You can't believe this is a
situation where you can't you can't believe anything anyone
says. Right? Because if he says he if he's if he's a Blackfoot,
alright, you know that this is like an ancient like Native
American, whatever. But if I say if the Blackfeet people always
lie. So what are they going to say about themselves? They're always
gonna say they have white feet. And the white footed tribe always
tells the truth, right? Which we'll never know. Because the
black foot are also saying they have white feet.
Anyway,
I just saw that recently. Her data or data is raw data is absolutely
negative. ruptured. extremely negative. Good.
Tell it tell me.
Man, the
the Guardian is milking this. They got like, under each story, they
got five different stories. Now they have a story on Jordan tent,
Trent Grove, who was falsely accused and spent some time I
guess is the guy who spent some time in jail. All right, tell me
about this. What is this case with the Muslim woman and the LGBT
people did a little bit of research on it. Let me see where
you go. So there's this woman named Shu Shu, we're in NASA
as Hu M I R un, NASA, ne SSA. So she's like a hijab influencer.
Apparently, she has like 7 million followers on social media. So
she's quite big. And basically, basically what happens is she
exposes one guy named Jeffrey Marsh, for being like a child
groomer. And he's like a whole LGBTQ you know, he's one of those
activists, whatever they call it. And so what happened was they
started sending her death threats. And apparently, like, it got to a
point where she's like, it's pretty crazy, like, based on new
data unless your property
expose your address or her children's school like they went
all in on this on this woman. Okay, that's extreme for like,
let's read this.
Thank you for finding that love wins.
us imagine they call these like
women men trying to listen Oh, this guy's famous. Yeah, so this
is the guy who
Alright, so
and this is the creature the person that she was attacking.
Imagine like an army of these people. For being a tailgating she
exposed him for being a child. Yeah. And he's like, nine non
binary or something. And he was using that as a way to invite
minors privately to talk with him or something like that.
And says that she received an email from someone that expose
her, her location, her children's school, her children's routine,
even for school. And like all like, intimate.
Alright, listen to this, this guy. Let's see what they say here. She
released telling the transcript that were inspiration and if we
look at this face
privately without that,
how does she know this stuff though? No idea. She accused Marsh
of grooming
by asking children to message privately on separate chat
platforms, okay.
All right. So okay, let's read the story. So the video is there, you
can watch the video. If you want. I'll just do to give us a video.
Her name is Sharon Nyssa. A British Muslim woman Woman with
more than 7 million followers on Tiktok says she has been targeted
after posting about Geoffrey March and American non binary activist.
Social media platforms are often awash with controversy. But the
latest row appears to have spilled over the boundaries of the virtual
world and ignited an online conflict about gender and
children's rights. There's no doubt about it that the the
alphabet soup are grooming kids because after this, I'm going to
show you a book.
I'm going to I'm going to see I'm going to show you a book
that
is called Learn.
I see what this book is called
because book
this book
book is called
The the gay VCs. Okay. And it's an ABC book basically learn your
letters.
Obviously G's for gay A is for like allies, right? A is for
allies.
It's like that, that kind of thing. J is
you know, there was like in South and South Brunswick again, someone
took a picture of their tests and health health tests. And I said
like it was like all these questions, but they sent me that I
should read that. And it was a student group that was allowed to
give the class that day. Like why are you insistent upon being
heterosexual and one of them said Don't you see the problem with
overpopulation and heterosexual behavior will eating
maybe your overpopulation you know
listen to this the class began last month. When Marsh
who uses they them pronouns said in the video, stop telling trans
people were inspirational. Go on and get that nessa use that video
as the best
acronym for her own clip telling Mars to stop telling kids to go on
your Patreon and chat to you privately without their parents
knowing. Did she say that? Did he did that person that other person
say that? Like where did she get that from? Obviously had to get
that somewhere. Nessa who presents herself as a comedian with the
handle at the real overload comm what? I don't know what that means
had
Oh, the real overload comedy, I guess that's her name, had
previously posted videos criticizing Marsh on the Chinese
own social media. She said March
encouraged children to message them privately on Patreon. Okay,
another platform for online content creators and liking their
content to grooming. Her videos amassed millions of views, but the
backlash was relentless. She said. Nessa who wears a hijab had said
people call her transphobic and attacked her religion. She claimed
photos of her without her religious headscarf had been
posted online by other people without her consent as a form of
attack and that her car was vandalized. I'm sorry, but please
don't come from my kids. She pleaded in a video on March 12.
The online Rao comes amid global debates on questions of identity
including gender. All right.
Shut up. A Twitter person is posting the SR shemaroo nessa who
spoke out against Jeffrey Marsh, the pro alphabet guy who targets
kids on Tik Tok. She received 1000s of death threats, had old
images without hijab leaked, her car was damaged. And now her kids
are being targeted. So much. There's so much fear in her voice
in one of their videos March is seeing saying your parents screwed
up.
Okay.
Marsh goes on to say this is why I made Patreon so that we could talk
about it. Okay? You want to he's so eager to help other people's
skills, because he knows so much about parenting. Right? March goes
on to say that's why I made patch Patreon. So we could talk about so
that we could connect in a way that has more privacy so that we
can talk to each other in a way that's more open. All right. So,
so called Gender critical people who believes * is biological and
should not be confused with gender identity, have spoken in
supportiveness saying she wants to protect children. I can't even
look at this guy March. I mean, this guy is over the top with his
makeup and his eyeliner on his eye, whatever it's called. Okay,
this is like over the top Speaking of Patreon, yeah, go on.
patreon.com go to patreon.com/safina society to
support the live stream.
She got an unfathomable amount of hate. But she stood her ground.
This is what protecting children looks like. Okay.
Who said this? The right side of history a
an organization that is
against the trans movement and their targeting of children. Okay.
Let's see what she said here
it's not playing for some reason. All right, forget it.
We can't see what she says her said like She's protecting
children from this guy who was clearly
Alright, let's give it a shot. Try to listen to what she's saying
here
Okay, guys, this video is gonna be a bit long telling of trans people
that were inspirational,
getting kids to go on your Patreon and chat to you privately without
their parents knowing.
And then a lot of people made stitches of me saying, I'm
transphobic I've done a lot of bad stuff. They've even scarf my
religion, a lot of bad stuff, which I don't want to go into. And
these people have also said they're not talking to the kids.
Okay, so I did a little bit of digging.
Hey, kids, I want to talk to the two high kids. Hey.
So yeah, there's a lot of videos.
The video I want to talk about, so your parents screwed up.
It's okay to say so. That's why I made a Patreon. So you want to
talk to kids whose parents have screwed up? Why why you want to
talk to these particular kids. Why? That's why I made a Patreon
so that we could talk about it. So we could get
Next in a way that has more privacy, so that we could talk to
each other in a way that's more open and stuff that we wouldn't
share, like in the comments of a video like this.
I think you're worth it. And so you want to talk to kids on a
social media platform privately, about topics that cannot be talked
about in the video of TiC TOCs? comments sections? Because why?
Would you want to do that? Why you can't chat about these topics in
these comments? Is it because they might get flagged or something?
Well, what could be the reason? Could this be one of the reasons
going no contact with the kids parents? Because you say in one of
your videos how kids can go no contact with their parents. So you
teach kids how to go no contact with their parents? Is that? Is
that what you're teaching them on? On Patreon? Or is it this your
teaching this more on because this, this video might get
flagged? That's why I don't want to say the word. And this is
Jeffrey Marsh, his Patreon. You talk about this topic with kids.
Now here are just some of the signs of grooming, literally one
of the first ones,
isolating the victim
asking them privately to go on Patreon and talking to them
privately. So you can connect and then showing these kids that you
trust them. You love them, you'll keep their secrets, and to keep
them isolated from their parents. And then the icing on the cake is
this video is beautiful. If you do not have a family that loves you.
I'm going to be your family. No, you can't. You are a stranger on
the internet. You are not their family. Oh, and another thing you
can turn of age restrictions on Patreon. So kids can go to Jeffrey
marshes, their Patreon
I'm with her. I went NASA. This guy needs to. So what's the guy's
name?
We need Romeo for this guy. Man finished the job. So if you're
saying that in another video
on his Patreon to show what he says in another video, who knows
if you're saying that on the guys, they suppose his Patreon messages
as well. Wow, were no idea what she's saying. It's in another
video. I mean, I took ramen here is making a good point. He said
the first story we did. were accused groomers that society
smashed right away, right? These poor asian guys who did nothing
and some of them were white guys. They were just lied about here's a
real groomer. He's telling you. He's telling the kids come and
let's talk. Do you know if I did that as the Imam of the month so I
did that for like let's say a January's kids are seen as kids
right? Or any of the people that we work with every day in the
masjid. Right. If I were to say listen, I let me talk to you don't
tell your parents right? It will be a scandal
unbelievable
if someone did that with with my kid I would say like no there's
something terribly wrong with this person. What do you have to say to
another person's kid? What do you have to say to my kid, right?
Unbelievable. feminist author Julie bindle tweeted Jeffrey Marsh
as we can see by his online content is a deeply disturbing
moment can you check out what Sophia said and get us that that
footage to
this this person is a
he's open about it because he knows will be defended. Okay. For
this she she has received Shamir Shimron has received threats with
details of her children's schools. Her car has been damaged
where is it?
It's on
look on the computer
a guy says this woman has repeatedly spread misinformation
about Jeffrey March March what disinformation when she actually
quotes him? Or she she puts his his videos up that's all she's
doing. If all she did was put his his videos up she wouldn't have to
have any commentary right? If that's all she did
okay
What should I look up check out the video if it's short enough
we'll put it up. Okay
that is insane. Now what's the video called?
Alright, let's go to YouTube and check that out
is it it's not by her right now. It's by everyone. Everyone's
exposing this guy.
Yeah, she just she just
you know you
She got the ball rolling but
which is good but not but if there was if it was false right if it
was totally false it you wouldn't have other people did the
internet's all about this right
it's all about this. Okay
Jeffrey Morris she's coming for your kids ticktock group
everyone's writing about this now
but what's in it? What's the title of that video specifically
Jeffery Marsh what exposed what is it called? What's the exact title
because there's a lot of stuff on him now.
Okay, we'll just put in Patreon
that should show up
Okay, here we go. Well it's 12 minutes but let's just see what's
going on here
you're injured you deserve compensation and the size of the
law firm matters
is American scotchy I need compensation for
Listen now it's
Jeffrey Marsh. This is not even Muslims anymore.
Writing on Jeffrey Marsh
go to six minutes okay.
Have able to happen
good
encourages vulnerable people to go no contact at all right here it is
Jeffrey Morris recommends that kids cut off contact with their
parents and also says that if parents are upset about being cut
off, it's more proof that they should be this is classic groomer
manipulation This man isn't is evil. Okay themselves from their
family. Matt was tweeted out. Jeffrey Marsh recommends that kids
cut off contact with their parents and also says that if their
parents are upset about being cut off, then it's just more proof
that they should be this is classic Groover manipulation. This
man is an evil scumbag. If you are attempting to figure out if you
want to go no contact. Let me give you cut off your parents I guess.
Go no contact first. Before you figured it out.
If you tell your mother for example, you're going to go no
contact and she can't even look at this guy.
She says
steamrolls over you can't listen to this guy. Oh no, we're in a
commercial. But you guys get the point right? Is there anything
more juicy on that video or that we missed? Or what?
Is this essentially there's a lot of evidence that this guy is a
complete
laundry business if you haven't decided decide then that's the
logic. It's like what it is
you're going to do it at night. I mean at the end
he has he just
would come up or not all about this stuff.
society can't have people who are just
dove into the deep end of their feelings and that's how they make
their decisions. That's what you end up with.
This is like an institutional level with therapists are the
cases in Washington last year where they were therapists they
could literally take your kids away oh my gosh. Yes. I remember
that. Yeah, this is like Yeah.
institutional level that exists Yeah. Now everything is is it's
mostly not Muslims now. Right here you got it some you young lady.
Okay
Nah, we didn't screw up but guess who did you Jeffrey
telling children to come to you over there parents. Not every kid
has a bigoted parent that is is not willing to understand their
children or sit there and listen to their children. And for for you
Jeffrey Marsh to be interviewed with Dylan Mulvaney about women
hood to have a podcast alta. That's why I went to Sephora. I'm
never shopping at Ulta again. Jeffrey literally goes on his Tik
Tok and says, Come on kids. You
Don't come to me. I'll hide stuff from you. I'll help you hide stuff
from your parents. What? Are you serious? You have mama bears like
me and Papa bears out there that ain't having that you're crossing
a boundary path
between this and like the white man's candy in here. And children
to this come Yeah, they're just masking the same, same thing. But
now he's just doing it in the open
not a human he says God is non binary. Alright, so the YouTube
was filled with this stuff. You all get the point now and see
what's going on with this with this guy. And
wow, that was whoever
How long does this go with this sister who?
Oh, it's recent. Wow. My gosh.
It's all about cutting ties with the family. With the parents. It's
all his messages.
Man this today's
news has been
Yeah. All right. Here's another one total and of times
Zinus outlet reach out from Medina.
A guy takes a Twitter picture of himself
or posted Twitter. He's saying the Jews are now back allowed in
Medina. And he said I'm planting the same trees that our
forefathers had. Here are the story where the prophesy set him
to scare off this this tribe that had betrayed him. The portrayed
the Muslims, he cut down one of their palm trees. He's like, I'm
replacing it. I'm putting it back. Because the prophets I send them
in the Sierra. This one of the tribes had betrayed the prophets.
I send them and so
they allowed Yeah. And he's posting and he's proud. He was
escorted to do it and everything. Yes. This is the palm trees that
our forefathers had planted here and everything.
Crazy stuff, man now Now here's something that is
I don't want to say but I should I guess I should say it. It's it's
not as
Yeah, I recently put out a picture of
Mexico City in Mexico City in Mexico, allowing public
public cohabitation basically,
Mexico, New Mexico, Mexico, Mexico.
You can be homeless with other people.
So someone sends me a message here. Okay, a physician from
Boston says. I just want to put in perspective that it wasn't that
people were actually cohabiting in the streets in this Mexican in
Guadalajara. It's the most conservative place in Mexico, it
was that the police were extorting people and telling them that
basically, we would go and lie and say we saw you doing lewd acts as
a result of that. All right. They extortion was so rampant, that
they made a law that people only regular citizens can go and make
the claim. All right, that people were doing this. And so they made
a law that they're not going to
they're not going to enforce this anymore. Because the extortion was
getting so high. Okay. And I replied, Well, I can't really make
a meme out of that. So forget it, but that's basically the story
behind it. Okay, so a little bit just to make sure that we
nonetheless, I mean, this the point still stands at that is
going to be the future that we're going to all public cohabitation
will be rendered lawful in many places
in Washington DC All right. Are you serious? Washington DC, DuPont
Circle Washington DC I don't know if you could all see this
Washington DC you have their this is Dupont Circle Washington DC. In
Washington DC Dupont Circle. They're advertising for the McCobb
the new Kaaba
Wow insane
insane. I was reading this book this morning.
Just stood out to me so much that when he said have you matured had
died? And then a couple years later Have you a book called a
sock off died? Yeah, he was like everybody there like it was just
different now like everything changed. Like if people were
holding it together. Yeah. Yeah. Like they were they were like they
had they hear saying about have you ever been matured her dad he
had like control over the authorities a lot. A lot of them
like they were still they respected him a lot. And they
would
He does not say hi and everything he said once those two passed away
like they could everyone just felt like the world completely changed.
So
sin
ArcView today RFP dot orgy
It's Chef a FIP today followed by comments from Jehovah to Tauheed
Hadith
Oh my Hadith class we are my my own class my own Hadith class shot
as a Muslim at four and then we got Shafi FIP after that and then
Johanna to toe heat. So I feel like I need to read something from
Jehovah to hate to purify my eyes here and my ears from this
nonsense and this insanity alright
let's talk about Al Iman who be naive and Kabul has that belief in
the pleasures the the the paradise of the grave. Let's let's cut from
all this insanity that we're reading here even make you go
crazy and read a little bit from Johanna to toe heat, chocolates
and moods.
how she'd still be Giuliana Joe? Joe hates cold who name
a when I even will company the there is paradise in the grave.
After you die you can be straight into a piece of paradise for a
mile to follow mata koderma is called the heart fill out where
Kunal Momineen
it is for the sincere believers Lima water Duffy that he came in a
new social burl River mob Lovato towards the transmissions on this
have reached to water. We're in the metal leaf at El Cabrini and
the whole of Ireland. Okay.
Well for Dr. Sue Bill, Bill KUBU, you will act us to Bill mini had
the hill OMA Wallaby mocha Levine. So when we say nyeem in a
cupboard, little mini and he says it is not just in the grave, there
is a realm of the buttock beyond that, okay. And it is not just for
the meaning of this OMA, it is for the meaning of every OMA and for
all those who are truly innocent in the sight of Allah having never
received the message.
Right. Now, as you all know what the time change we're going to do
a dua of Wednesday at the end of the stream.
Nor is it specific for the McAfee because if you died young, you
still are in the default status of your existence is that you're in
now. That's a default and you have to do something bad to be put in
200. Right or to be in Chicago.
Yeah, it's opposite of Christianity, where you're born
into this original sin. Women now AMI tau CIE Sabina they are on
auto Don waka Tula is that the person will find a great
expansion. Okay. They will unlike the grave which the image of the
grave is small. You will find it to have been expanded. woman who
is done FET Barca fi humanize Jana other also a small piece of Jana
will open up for you. One Tila oh who the Rehan and beautiful sense
were jolly who wrote the Maria del Jana and that your grave will be a
slice of paradise.
Which I'll can deal with. That's * coffee for you know what
Allahu cobre who can come related better and there will be in its
own light in the grave obviously. What where's the sun? Right? Well,
the thing is that this is clearly not a physical opening your
butters lucky realm. You are in a realm. It's not like a dream. But
it's not physical. As as strong as this physicality. It's a different
realm that a mom and her dad put it best he said, it's very hard to
explain. Because what are the and Allah to Allah? Oh, Allah Musa
Allah Tada, give ye to Musa to Allah malcare While limb holiness,
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lights up the houses of Allah, Allah lights up his graves. Well,
could you hear them Mulan at a cocktail party here in the lower
limit? We treat this not as some allegory or metaphor. Haha. Right?
Because we the default of all human languages go to the is that
things are true and literal unless there's a reason not to Makoto who
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Yaqoob Baku Luma Hua Cadet Erica for worship, okay. He is talking
about the three things sua Luna Thumma double Cabrini amo Hawa jib
kabasele Hashem So, the questions in the grave the punishment in the
grave and the pleasure in the grave all of this is wedge guy and
he says here it is, there is no rational reason to hold it as an
allegory. So we take it as it is literally. Okay. It is something
that is possible. Okay. And the reports on it are sound, therefore
it's obligatory for us to believe. We'll have them on a Suniti Wajima
hood, and Mata Zilla, even some of the MATA Zilla hold that will
uncorrupt al Qaeda, or in Mullah Hilda coulomb in her the Salah,
and the mullah Haider. I think a lot of martyrs also rejected
punishment in the grave. Right? How come we didn't pray the
capacity, a luxury, a bath in Nursey that Hush, the people will
be resurrected into physical bodies, just like these physical
bodies, physical body, they don't look like these. They may look
different, but they are physical bodies just like these resurrected
a second time. And that's basically one of the most
important pillars of our of our Amen. Good. resurrected and
physical bodies. Okay.
All right. So let's now go to
the q&a portion of our program today. And first, there is a new
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Are you guys meet xebia handcut Hello? No, it's not handcut Hello.
It's Halal by medica and Chef a standards not by Hanafy standards.
When we have meat in mbyc it is halal by Chef a and Maliki
standards not by Hanafy standards
Hanafi standards being the hint cut.
Good.
What's up? Maybe?
I don't know he's Egyptian. I mean he's really hand cut as in like
they cut the meat after they got
that's definitely that part is hand cut
because there's also a harm not partaking in the community. Yeah,
yeah, I would have what might she had would be when a Muslim tells
me something's halal. Cos I accept it if I accept to go to his house
I accept it. That's what I do. Yeah, fellowship. He's shaking
rods may also know also other opinions within the Hanafi school.
Right that is more expensive on the issue of meat.
Yeah, almost practically. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, he's it's tricky because
because if it is permitted another method it is not way to treat it
like Kunzite right. I don't think like a chef a meat chef a
slaughter chicken. I asked one time I had a few hardcore hand
slaughtered. I said so if if a Jew hand slaughters I think he said
like he would eat it because it's it's I love to eat the meat of
Jesus. Okay. If a chef a presents a chicken, and he says I
slaughtered on chef a steak
Hundreds Would you eat it? And he got stumped. Right? So you're
gonna eat the Jewish meat, but you know, you need chef AMI, right?
Chef aromatic e standards. He got something left, he started
laughing because he realized like, they they sort of sometimes treat
the chef eight or Maliki standards of meat as if it's, like treated
like kunzea. And now they've mingled this even in to solve in
some levels and said, that's the reason you're having blockage.
Like how would you know that right, then therefore, there
should be no Olia in Egypt. There should be no Elia in Syria. There
will be no Olea in this country's ever right. In Morocco, they all
go by this federal.
Yes, I can't help imagine artifacts.
Yeah, where have you made a beautiful chart? Very simple. Nice
poster, format hubs and on the high level on like the different
categories effect one of the key differences between each one?
Well, it'd be good just to do it on like me to see what the
standards are. And I talked to the NY New York we with me, New York
City Council. Okay, so the New York City aboard, I met the one of
the high level guys at the New York City aboard. They're doing
amazing work out there. One of the things that we discussed was that
they certify restaurants. But they, they had to make a judgment
call that they had to serve choose one of the methods to certify on
and for reasons that they went to the most exclusive to appeal to
them, or not to appeal, but so that they could benefit from it.
And the majority of the community were from the subcontinent. So
they're not enough. So what the suggestion that I am coming with
is that the shear boards should have two tranches. Right, you
should have two labels. And you should just put it out there
because it's as if to say that none of the Arabs who are non
Hanafi and even some of the Arab Hanafi is it this doesn't suit
them at all. Right. So there should be a
standard Hello by Hanafy standards and halal by madaket. Chef a and
humbly standards. Okay. And it is a lesser standard, right, in terms
of what you're looking for, because they require hand straight
to the neck, which we have full respect for that. Obviously,
there's nothing wrong with having that's an opinion is nothing.
There's no direct pneus on that. Hopefully that makes sense. That
isn't from the neck. That would be
the truth. So societally?
Yeah, I mean, I've asked so many shields from the medical HFA. And
all of them had permitted the use of a machine provided. This is the
key. Someone was there, making sure that it actually worked.
Right that we need certainty on. We cannot have any doubt that the
slaughter occurred by means of a machine that we can't have any
doubt. Good.
questions here?
MJ still does not like the Mexico City explanation dumbed down
reason Who are these lawmakers? He's right. Why don't you
prosecute the officers for bothering people and extorting
them that's the solution
MJ Steele says I live close to the center but I work evening hours
I highly recommend you get Ark view and you sign up for shaking
rods Aki to class. You take that class on Sunday live and you watch
the recordings later on and then you and you come on Sunday to
await them to sign up for away them after Ramadan. I guess we
only have one session left. But after Ramadan you can even come
and sit in Sunday at 2pm at the masjid. How do you know you are
being tested by Allah? We are always being tested good times as
a test bad times as a test. Everything is always a test. Okay.
Everything is always a test. And
we're always being tested. The good is a test. The bad is a test.
Everything's a test. Good.
I really need to start learning Hanafy
All right, when is you can sign up for Dr Fetzer to well where he
says he works in the evening so he can do that
you can take Hanafi fiqh on our feet too. And then you could meet
the teacher here, the teachers gonna be moving here soon. So you
can
be
yeah they have good classes too but you think is the beauty of it
he lives here I'm Rana Hamid is going to live here too. Right? So
you have insha Allah he's moving soon so you have access to the
teacher your your fifth teacher here is watches get watch take the
classes online meet him here in person out domestic drama,
whatever.
Yeah, watch it beats the flute or not. Yeah, that's it that exact
thing. Yep. Act out. See how he treats? The the times where his
meds have clashes with real life in the community. And that's gonna
happen all the time.
All right.
It's 254. Let us now move to our dua.
All right, have a lot of the last question. pulsating amygdala.
This person's amygdala is pulsating. Is it permissible to
use memes? Yes, why not? As long as the content is Sounion my
friend and I use memes and WhatsApp conversations sometimes
making memes of each other and use memes of other people as long as
it's not going to be offensive to somebody nanny haram. Just look at
the content that's
why do you think Zuleika wasn't punished? Even though she was the
one to try to seduce to use a news? She was punished maybe not
in the court over there. But she was punished in life. Like she
ended up divorced she ended up miserable. She ended up poor she
did suffer a lot. Okay, a question from Instagram says
Alcon as a NBF stories of the Zodiac inshallah. I'm gonna be
into how do we get rid of suit oven and negative thoughts about
people is by displacement you got to think of the good things about
them you got to think of how they suffered you got to think of all
the excuses they may have right valid excuses for why they're
behaving a certain way
all that is
is how you displace bad thoughts about people with good thoughts
and said now use of a muddy when they saw the dead donkey he said,
Look how wide its teeth are that famous story about that story.
Okay, nice was walking with this companions. And they found a dead
donkey. And it was rotting. And the bugs were on it. And they were
all saying, Oh, look at the bugs, the blood, it smells bad. And say
nice, he said, but look how wide his teeth are.
So he didn't blame them for what they said is true. That's why he
made his bed and adjust his bed. Right? Death is much energist or
death is a source of an adjuster for things. Right. But his
personnel his guidance pointed to what's nice in the image. The
white the teeth are still very white. I was really want to get
your explanation on this. Basically, it's like someone
taught him a lesson about
where you're looking at a horizon. And it's a beautiful green
horizon. And as you keep walking closer to it, you see a person
beating?
Oh, yeah, I always believed and I always tell people, if you want to
be part of the community, there needs you need to know the right
distance to and away from people and the community itself. Right.
So you have to have a sort of mental, you can't get your life
intertwined with everyone else's life. That's not good. Right,
you're so close that the friction is too much. Eventually, something
bad's gonna happen. If we were all sitting really close like this for
a while, it's fine. But if we were stuck here and locked here, within
a few hours, you just get annoyed, right? And you might find the wit
and psychology of people is you keep looking at something you'll
see its flaws. So you have to be able to bounce away every once in
a while in a sense of
not physically having to leave but at least personally, mentally wash
yourself off, right? And don't get so involved in people's business.
On the medium says, when invited at invitations is almost certain
majority people don't bother confirming if machine slaughtered
or not. Or if the process was watched by the person.
That's why we need a shitty abort to call them every few months, and
ask them and even go visit and to see what their operation looks
like.
You get invited to someone's house and you're like, you're not
allowed to ask. Like you're not allowed to ask this is really
awesome community event. Is this. If you're uncertain about it,
don't go to the event. Don't hit it. Yeah.
No, but you don't don't even go to the event. I tell people if you
will not eat the meat that I put and don't ask me don't come to my
house. Simple as that. You're not going to come to my house and then
it
Use my food. Right? Don't come to my house. Simple as that. And I'm
serving what I want to serve. Right? I'm not going to cater to
your thing. I'm serving what I'm serving at my house. You can come
or you can not come. That's how simple it is. Right but you're not
coming and I'm say oh, the food that we always eat we're not
eating it because it's not special enough is not halal enough for
this person. No, my salah I'm not reciting the decimal in the foot
I'm not reciting pray behind me or don't come to my house right? So
you respect the person you respect that they did they know how to
pray worship Allah right there upon a sound met valid method.
Okay, simple as that.
Simple as that.
Kind of rudeness is this
such privilege elitist rudeness if turned into an Islamic you know,
version of it. That's all it is. Because, because my that Hey,
there, this is funny. Right? This is things that are that came up,
based upon opinion. This is not kata yet of the deen. Right.
Yeah,
it's, it's rude and it's not the right way to do things.
had a question regarding if a person has 2021 Ramadan
outstanding. So
that's 2021 so more than a year has passed you just fast one. You
still fast for your club? Ah, you Oh, you're caught up and you pay
1/5? Yeah.
Okay.
Just one video for even if it's a year or more, you're not going to
pay Vidya for every year that you missed, just one time. Okay, so
she, this person missed the video from 2022 they didn't. They didn't
do codeine 2022. Now it's 2023. So now two Ramadan's have passed. So
but still only one video, one product and one video.
Video these days is
still out at $12 $12?
Can you read the Quran? To get answers? Yes, but not,
not the random opening of the page. We don't have that's
gambling. That's the type of lottery that has entered in Islam
on that is not right.
Open the Quran. See if the if the A is a verse of mercy, or a verse
of punishment, versus punishment, no verse of mercy. Yes. And I
heard another one, do it three times. And then see two best out
of three. Right? If two verses have mercy, or more than do it.
This is all done as lamb that has never been mentioned or has no
soundness, to the sahaba. And it goes exactly the opposite way of
what the prophet is teaching us, he's teaching us take
responsibility for your own decisions, make a decision and
trust in Allah. Right? Make a decision with your own brain and
with no see, and everything. You're responsible for that right,
my friend once I'm asking you that. So you're actually going to
go to your business partners and say, Yes, I'm for it. And they're
going to say why. And you're going to either a keep it a secret,
or B, you're going to tell them I opened up the Holy Quran two to
three times, because we like who am I doing business with this
guy's nuts? Not trusting him with millions of dollars. Right? Who's
operating on chance and lottery?
Sounds like a joke. But like, I was talking to someone who has
worked for BCG, which is a consulting firm. Yeah, one of the
few consulting firms that consult for like Saudi Arabia, for these
countries. So when he was actually consulting on the new project,
right, the what did he do? Um, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So they hired
BCG to say, Hey, can you look at this project? Tell us what you
think about it, right? You're telling him like, you need to have
like, at least someone who have Muslim background because these
guys will walk in and be like, I like I saw a dream. And then, you
know, this is why we should do this. Oh, yeah. And then it
wouldn't make sense at all. Like in terms of like, actual business,
like, like in the open, right. Doesn't it make sense from a
business perspective? But they're like, Yeah, we saw dream, we get
to go hear that. But even even that's not usually how it works.
It usually works that we did our due diligence. And then finally
after that, now we got a good Beshara or, or things are going
really rough, and we got a good Bishop, keep going. Right? But
it's never going to be the decision making thing.
Like, okay, there's not going to be viewed decision. It's going to
be something to encourage to finally seal the deal. Right.
We'll take all this bad. Yeah. So the thing happened and then after
he would like it would be as if he took notice, but yeah, right after
that, and also in the times of great hardship when you're about
To give up on something, then there are a lot of many stories of
those type string. Keep going. Just
that let's listen to this question here. What if I didn't do that for
years, I owe many Hajj or salah, Salam or salah? Is it forgiven?
Or should I still do because after all, if you are sinful and not
praying or not fasting, that's what the sinful part of it is
forgiven, but you still owe the prayers and the fasts.
Hamza ZZ says, aromatically, you owe Qaddafi?
What's better pray to God up to make up for fetch and then fetch
or the two of you. But before fetch, then fetch? No two.
Is the non Hanafi, sinful for not praying witches and eating
seafood? Well, you know, I think he means crayfish, because they
can eat seafood, but they can eat the crayfish. Right? Okay.
I think is that so I think that if you have made it, have made a
commitment, and you have established you set in your heart
of belief, this is what I believe, right? And this is what I'm doing.
And you've made that commitment. And then you just got lazy and
said, Now I'm Sheffy for today, and I ate it, then I think that
you were maximum that that is a disliked practice, because you're
really contradicting your own decision making. Right? That's
really the problem here. Like you made a decision, make a decision
stick with a decision.
Stick with that decision. But if you want to just do something like
you're not so committed to it, then don't be committed to so I'm
a chef a food, right? It's not the end of the world. But here's the
problem. If you then become a teacher of FIP, you have a
problem. Right? And the automat talks about the one who does those
things in his personal life.
How they say okay, that's his personal life. But now if you are
a community teacher or a teacher in your family, and you're
teaching this Hanafy book, you're going to create a cognitive
dissonance when you're teaching something and doing the opposite.
Okay
so that's one of the problems there
Gordo eat says lobster go heart, Cajun seasoning and some butter.
How about this grill? Grill it? grilled lobster then dip that
thing in the butter right and then roll that into the Cajun seasoning
right?
Alright.
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