Shadee Elmasry – Muslims Don’t Care About the Palestine Movement

fellow Muslims if you care about Palestine just because of an Aqsa

and distort our anti colonial struggle as religious, so you're

disturbed and not better than Zionists, you fantasize

Palestinians and are driven by your religious ideas. So I think

this is a nasty attack on the worldview of a Muslim, who

is he? He's

trying to go about this because of his religious belief, because

Allah subhanaw taala commanded us about right and wrong, number one,

and about the special place of AXA. Number two, so it's not

solely because of AXA, x is not in China, but we care about the

Uyghurs upstairs not in India, but we care about the Muslims in

winter production in other places. So it seems to me that it's a bit

excessive her thing she's like, so if you're not anti colonialists,

in your mindset, you're nothing like

you're just like a Zionist. What are your thoughts on that? I'll

actually, respectfully correct the sister by saying that Zionism in

and of itself, is Islamophobic. And so by you standing in front of

Zionism, you have to be pro Islam, whether you like it or not, and,

at the core of it, Zionist aim to destroy the land, the Holy Land of

Muslims. And that's what we see from this current administration

is that they are bombing our masajid, they are bombing our

places of worship, they are raising them on a weekly basis,

they're not letting our brothers and sisters pray a regular drum

masala. And we know especially especially throughout the year,

that when it comes to Ramadan, when it comes to our most holy

times during the year, Zionist escalate their attacks. And so

from an activist point of view, from anyone that is standing, so

called against colonization, you have to realize that you have to

do counter attacks to that by supporting it so so much more by

supporting our brothers and sisters in Palestine, and the

Muslim and Islamic movement, so much more in and of itself. And

then also, I want to say that the media and you mentioned this has

played this idea of what a Muslim is, to so many people, that even

people within the movement fall into that a that you can be anti

colonial, and you can't be religious at the same time, which

is, which isn't true at all you can be you must be anti colonial

and pro Islam and pro liberation at the same time. And that is how

we achieve success. But if you're willing to take out one over the

other, especially religion, you can take out colonialism you can

you can be pro colonialism. And I've seen this can be broken up

colonialism, but pro religion, but because religion is that your

court, eventually you'll be anti colonial, because religion is what

dictates your movements moving forward. Yes, so did you do you

ever talk to someone like her? Do you? Do you communicate with her

and try to like,

get it understand your prospects very often where, for example,

we're at a rally. And this is a very, there's a very regular chat

that we sometimes say we say La ilaha illallah wa Shaheed

Habibollah, for example. Yeah, and brothers and sisters would come up

to us after, and they ask us to something they shouldn't, when you

ask them why they're saying, you're making the movement to

religious, and you're, you're pushing away people from it. And

the reality is, a lot of these people that actually come up with

these remarks are Muslim as well. But I am certain that they are

missing a certain piece within their faith that requires religion

to be the foundation in anything that we do, regardless of any kind

of justice movement, if it is a justice movement that is grounded

in Islam, and you cannot remove the Islamic aspect, and still call

it a justice movement. And that is something that I try portraying.

To many people, a lot of them become very understanding. But

there's also a lot of them that were rooted and have the

foundation of on Islamic principles, and not really

theories them to a different direction. And let me ask

something I can understand when there's equal powers, that a

person doesn't think of Allah and realize as his own powers, right?

We say you're wrong, but I get it. It's human beings can do that.

Right. But when you are so weak in power, you have no country, no

state will support you, right?

The entire world. And you see here, Elon Musk, supposedly one of

the most powerful guys in the world Cohen and doing the

humiliation ritual

with Ben Shapiro in Auschwitz and then saying, I don't know I'm

aspirationally Jewish, I was Jewish. It's almost like my best

friend is black. Right? Right. You know, that whole trope? And I

think I my great grandmother was Jewish, what kind of like power

that are you facing? So when

you're the power distinction is that great? It makes

You think where is real power right? Now at that time you are

ripe to actually realize what the real power is with all the so what

I would like to ask is, what is the perception of who has power to

these to the secular

view of the resistance like, where are they getting their power from?

Do they actually think that their material power is going to stand

up against Israel in the United States and Western Europe? Right,

I think that that is that is such a core point, because they, a lot

of a lot of those people that have those certain views are coming

from a place that the people are the only ones that have the power,

and we are going to be the ones that are going to achieve

liberation and justice, and so on and stop the Zionist entity. But

who has true power is a missing conversation in and of itself.

Like, it's not even something that comes up, where if you ask someone

who has a true power, you're going to go in circles with them,

they're going to tell you, the colonizers, the people, and so on.

And the concept of there being a higher power is completely absent

from the conversation. And I think that is what is so missing. And I

always mentioned this is that this is so missing within the movement.

And it's what we need to show you and students of knowledge to talk

about more, it's like in our masajid, when we talk about

rallies, talk about the religious aspect within rallies, talk about

why it is so important for one extra Muslim for one extra share

for one extra student of knowledge to be there compared to 10 secular

people, for example, where even that one person can make huge

waves, because we know that it is it's like secularism versus like

the religious societies isn't something that is targeted, but

rather it is something that is almost combative against each

other, that as soon as Muslims take a vaccine, secularism will

take advantage of that, and we'll move forward. And that's something

that Muslims have to wake up to that if you choose to take the

backseat, you're okay, with secularization being the norm, and

vice versa, where Muslims are stepping up in a very active way,

will for secularization to take the backseat.

And I would go so far as to say without really sounding too

divisive, but IBLEES will love a secular pro Palestine movement,

right? Because you're impotent, right? And you're going to rely on

yourself, and you're probably going to make things worse, right?

And when nothing will scare, scare even your enemy,

then that you believe that something's greater than him.

Right? And when a person has that belief in Allah subhanaw taala.

That that's the real power. That's at a certain point, then it

triggers a lot of other things. So if this is the real power, then

why is this happening? Right? There must be a wisdom while it's

happening. Right? I think the triggering point that you

mentioned, is really important because I was thinking about this

and I saw posts by different one Mohamed, to which I'm not sure if

you've seen her graduation speech, she was posted on the front cover

of The New York Times and attack a lot for her pro Palestinian speech

on her CUNY law graduation. But she recently posted something as

she was applying for, for jobs to be a lawyer. She was saying a lot

of these Zinus threatened her that you're never going to find a job,

you're never going to find any means of feeding your family and

so called but she wrote this post and she was mentioning she was

like, do they not know that Iran zap is who is going to is the one

that has written might raise for them from before time. And it's

something that is so missing is because when you fear nothing but

Allah subhanaw taala and you know that at the core of your movement

is Allah subhanaw taala and he has the greatest power, then truly

nothing can come in front of you that will truly scare you. And

those are the triggering aspects that are missing within the

movement. Without that without that first step of recognizing

that at the core of it is Allah is the Allah is the Greatest when we

put up with a beautiful when we put that at the core and as the

foundation that Allah is the only one who has power. At that point.

Really, every trajectory we go on is going to be a little bit

different than than one who doesn't have that actually, it's

going to end up being a lot different