Saad Tasleem – I Called Ammar AlShukry!

Saad Tasleem

Covid Conspiracy, Muslim Twitter, Celebrity Shaikhs, Jordans

  • Home life during Covid – 0:50
  • Covid conspiracy – 2:00
  • Introverts during Covid – 3:55
  • Sharing one’s children’s moments online – 6:02
  • Doing live Q&A’s – 8:35
  • Teaching AlMaghrib seminars online – 9:50
  • New hobbies – 13:29
  • Helping with housework – 15:00
  • Muslim twitter – 17:35
  • Celebrity Shaikhs vs. Mentors – 24:12
  • Fashion vs. Simplicity – 32:15
  • Jordans – 35:11
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The lack of trust in people due to the pandemic and fear of socializing is a lack of trust in learning online, as it is illegal. The speaker discusses their experience with online classes and how they use pictures and videos to communicate with parents. They emphasize the importance of grounding and guidance, seeking professional help, and finding your own community. They also talk about their personal struggles with COVID-19 and the negative impact on their mental health. They emphasize the need for grounding and guidance and support from individuals to build relationships and build a circle of righteous people.

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			Tell them why AIG was set to law. What's up man? What a big shake
		
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			yo check is a dangerous word these days man
		
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			What up brother? Exactly? What's up student of knowledge under law How you doing? under law sorry
man to call you
		
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			on the edge Watch out a lot. You know that's that's how we got to do in news in this
		
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			these times man the Coronavirus times you know? How are you doing? Good. How are you?
		
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			How are the kids? Kids are good hamdulillah I like I usually say like, don't ask about the kids
anymore. Ask about the parents. How the parents?
		
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			Are you guys surviving?
		
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			Just barely, just barely make it through? henden How are you doing, man? How's uh, how's home life?
		
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			Or like, to be honest, you know what? I haven't missed the travel at all yet. Really? I haven't
missed it. Not at all. I'm just, I'm enjoying. I'm enjoying just being at home. My wife isn't
enjoying it as much as I am.
		
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			I don't
		
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			have anywhere to be. And I went into 100% hibernation mode. Like I went complete. introvert? Yeah,
I'm not gonna go see anybody. I'm not there's no itching to go anywhere. I just turned into a hermit
and I'm okay. You know, we're gonna write out this 2020 like that, inshallah?
		
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			Yeah, I mean, I caught her from day. I mean, you know, whatever. I told people around me, I said,
you know, people were saying, like, Oh, it's gonna be a couple months or whatever. I was like, no.
		
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			I was like, and I'm still saying this, like, for the record, until we get a vaccine. Like, this is
how it's gonna be. And even after we get a vaccine, it's gonna, it's gonna take a long time for
things to go back to like normal, you know? So like, people gotta gotta, like, they got to come to
terms with that, you know, they make their peace with it. Yeah. I mean,
		
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			Houston, it was a couple of days ago. I mean, it really got high, and they get in Houston. And I was
walking around my building. And there was nobody wearing a mask. And it was just infuriating.
		
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			And I definitely would have told them to put on masks if I was wearing a mask, but I just felt like
I didn't have
		
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			I didn't have the moral standing, you know, as a
		
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			man, it's it's so weird, dude. I feel like nothing is there's no like truth anymore, man. Like,
everyone's got their truth. You know, like, everyone's got their, their worldview like you can't
even tell somebody to put on a mask. Like, everybody's got their conspiracy theory going, dude, it's
it's so frustrating man. Like, literally like having conversation with somebody and they go, yeah,
it's not real. Like what? Who told you it's real? Oh, doctors are the medical community. They're all
in on it. Big Pharma. Like, what? So So these people that we know who have had the virus, like, that
was fake too. Like, how What? Oh, they try to compensate. By the way, that's fake, too.
		
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			I had a conversation with somebody. And I was like, you know, I know people who have passed away. I
have family members that are doctors like they're working there in the field. Yeah, like, Yeah, but
you know, it's, it's everybody's in on it. And I'm like, Wait, hold on. All the doctors. Wow, all
across America. They're like, yeah, don't doctors get like a kickback for medication and things
like, and it's like, I'm like you think every doctor has to be it's like the moon landing. Right?
Like, that never made sense to me, because I'm like, how many, like 1000s of people would have to
agree to that, for that secret to stay hidden? You know, everybody agreeing to a lie? How How has
		
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			the lack of traveling been with you? Ah, so as like, you know, I'm, I'm, I identify as an introvert.
So, if I'm indoors, you know, time by myself, it's always great for me.
		
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			But
		
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			like, I'm one of those instructors that I go to like, another country. And I spend most of my time
like, in my room, like a shift you want to see like this and that like that. You know, whatever.
Like, you want to see this $5,000 to 5000 year attraction we have going on here.
		
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			Let's check but you know, you came 1000s I'm like, yeah, you know, okay, whatever. So like, usually
I'll do like a drive by like that. It kind of frustrates some people and like, I've been to so many
places, but I haven't seen a lot of like the main stuff. Yeah, I'm okay with that. Like, people get
upset on my behalf like they're upset at me like, why didn't you got Mike? Listen, I enjoyed the
time the way I wanted to enjoy my time, right?
		
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			But so like, that hasn't bothered me. And you don't want to corrupt your intention you effort that
way.
		
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			That was your intention. It was not to go sightsee or to go tourists or you're just like, I want my
hotel room, maybe send me a sandwich room service would be best. That is, that is actually the way I
do it. Like, hey, you want to go out to eat or whatever? I'm like, nope, let's just pick up some.
		
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			Better yet, like Uber Eats, like, I love Uber Eats, Oh, don't worry about it, I got it. I'll order
my own food. Like it'll come to the room. And it's great. But so that's been cool. For me. Like, I
haven't felt that it's been totally normal. Just
		
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			the lack of the lack of teaching, right? It's been weird for me. I'm doing it for so long, you know?
And that, like human connection of like teaching students that are in front of you, and they can
react and you get their feedback. And so that has been, like, really difficult for me to, you know,
adapt to teaching online. How have you felt like, I'm pretty active with the Instagram lives and all
of that. hamdulillah you stayed connected? How did that? Yeah, yes, that was.
		
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			Yeah, and is trying to make an appearance. But, um, the last she did that?
		
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			I tried. I tried to keep her off camera. So no, no, I'm, like, it's nice to bully to see who's on
the screen.
		
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			I'm the same way, man. My kids are not. They're not anywhere online.
		
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			And like, you know, my stance on that on that issue? Yeah. I learned it from you. Yeah, man. I mean,
I just I, you know, like I told you before, I don't think it's fair to kids, you know, to put their
lives online. I told I told late, by the way, like, you know, I said, Look, you know, he doesn't
understand what I'm saying right now. But like winter 18. Like, I have all your videos and all your
photos or whatever. Like, if you at that point, decide to put everything online, like that's up to
you. Right, as an adult, you can make that decision, I'm not gonna do that to you, I'm not gonna put
your life
		
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			online. For me, it was also because I don't want to turn into the the like, you know, your child is
to use, like, the cutest thing in the world the most. Yeah. And I realized that not everybody's
gonna see my kid like that. I mean, it's just natural. And so let me I'm blinded by my love for my
child that I sit there, and I start posting about her all the time. Dude, I cannot tell you how
happy that makes me. And I'm for two reasons. Number one, like, as a parent myself, I have two kids.
Like, I have a rule. Like, if even two family members, if I send it, if I'm sending them a video,
it's got to be like, 10 seconds or less. If I'm sending photos, it's like one or two photos, because
		
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			I know like, there's only so much you can watch of other people. Like even me, like as a parent. I
see like other kids. After a while. I'm like, okay, that's great. Like, yeah, exactly. It's just
fine. You know, your kids like you see them? Yeah, yeah, exactly. So my role is, videos got to be
under 10 seconds.
		
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			And people have to, like really tell me that they want to see my kid. You know, like, I really want
to like my parents and stuff. Don't get on my case. I'm not I'm like, I'm not doing that. Like
parents, though. grandparents are. They probably like your kids more than they like you right now.
Of course. And the other thing I noticed is my sisters, my sisters are just like, they're, it's
about girls, like girls love girls, they love dressing them up. There's so much more that they can
do with girls as far as accessorizing. So even though my sisters have, I mean, they have sons, but
they just they just die over pictures of the girl in the family. Go back to Instagram Live. So you
		
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			were saying? Yeah, I don't know, man, I just kind of it was cool for a while, but I just got, I
don't know, it was its own thing. And then I realized it didn't make up for like teaching live.
Right? And I didn't see. So I would do like the Q and A's. And I, I don't know, I kind of lost I
don't wanna say lost interest in it. It just I didn't see a lot too much benefit coming out of it. I
see. Um, you know, a lot of questions were pretty like, like the same. Two dozen questions you get
asked in different ways, the same questions that get asked differently. And then the other problem
for me was a lot most of the questions I would say were questions that, like, people need counseling
		
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			need to be counseled for that question that they asked and they don't need like a quick, you know,
like 1015 second answer. So that's why I you know, shut that down.
		
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			I know you don't do DMS but those questions are the same. It's literally like this is a law life
altering legal decision. Can you please give me advice and I'm like, sounds like you need like a
local Imam slash lawyer slash counselor for for this type of a question.
		
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			You can be asked about an idea, but you're going to be teaching the sweetened computer soon, aren't
you? Yeah, again. Yeah.
		
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			I'm actually very excited. Like, it's been a while now. Like, what, four months? More? Yeah, I've
taught in a modem seminar. So even though it's not going to be exactly the same like that, you know,
the on site thing. But the fact that I told them like, I'm going to stand in teach, I'm going to
teach, like, in my mind, I'm there, right? Yeah. And hopefully, we can work out like the mechanics
of it. But I'm looking forward to any shell. And I'm glad it's like restricted to that abena, you
know, to that location. Yeah, I'm looking forward to man do you have? Do you have any classes coming
up? Are you teaching anything? I'm going to teach your hood man, Virginia, Nolan. Hey, August 29, in
		
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			sha Allah, so that's going to be my first. So we're gonna try to, we're gonna try to teach live and
see how it goes. I don't know how I'm gonna look at it, even talk for four hours or eight hours, or
however long it ends up being. I'm excited. And part of excitement is also like new territory, like,
we'll see how it goes,
		
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			I'm sure we'll find some way to you know,
		
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			I'm sure there's gonna be certain things that we're able to do because of an online format that we
wouldn't be able to do in person. So that's exciting as well. So that's all about the technology.
Like I know with zoom, you can share your screen, you can you can draw, you can like showcase
things. I don't know how to do any of that yet. I got like two months to figure that out.
		
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			But I'm excited about the prospect of
		
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			engaging with people, I think you can like, really focus in on on
		
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			answering people's questions, for example. You're not for me, when I get interrupted, I lose my
train of thought all the time. So I'm looking forward to not being interrupted during the class. But
at the same time, I can't not if someone raises their hand, I don't know. All on them.
		
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			So it's kind of like, you know what, my train of thought is gone. You might as well just go and go
for this. That's why you know, my rule, right? When I teach.
		
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			Oh, you don't know? No. So since day one, I do not take questions while I'm talking.
		
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			Like I literally in the beginning of the seminar, I say like you can raise your hand and we'll even
make eye contact, but I'm still not gonna answer your like, I'm still not gonna drink cold blooded
man. I'm not cold blooded.
		
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			Man I'm at, I'm add is what I am, right? I'm like, once I start answering your question was like,
I'm gonna, like, I'm gonna forget what I'm talking about. And like, I'm gonna lose my flow. And then
me. And then I don't know, I don't know how to, like, read this. It's like you raised your hand
them. And then, you know, I'll be like, we're gonna, we're gonna, I was literally just about to make
that point. Thank you. or something of that nature? You know? Yeah. I mean, I have a list of issues.
Why don't just the number one, like, I get distracted, I lose my train of thought, number two
tangents upon tangents on tangent, and then you're in some different, like, world, right? And then
		
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			the course material suffers number three.
		
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			A lot of the questions that are like, hey, okay, it's coming up, like this, hold on, like, you know,
next session or whatever. So, my quick way of dealing with that is I'm like, Look, if you have a
question come to your mind, just write it down. Like, I don't want you to not ask me your question.
Just write it down. And that's why people pass up the the questions and I'll take a look at them in
the breaks, I could easily be like, this is coming up or whatever, or ask questions in that way. But
yeah, like, some people don't like that about my class. Like, I know, I'm, I'm, I've come to terms
with that. And be like, No, he doesn't answer questions. I'm like, I'm sorry. Like, that's just,
		
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			that's the best I can do. Yeah, Have you picked up any new hobbies and quarantine,
		
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			I find myself going back to some of my old hobbies that I had kind of left.
		
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			So I used to, like draw and sketch and like, doodle kind of,
		
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			but I lost, you know, I'm in my art background, right. So, so I'm getting kind of getting back into
that like for just for fun.
		
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			A couple other things that I didn't have time for, like, I haven't worked on my bike in a while. The
last time I had to get worked out, I took it to a shop, they did the oil change or whatever, which
just felt wrong. But now I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna change my oil, I got to change the spark plugs,
change the air filter. And I'm like, I'm excited to like, do it by myself, because I actually have
the time to do it. Nice. Things like that. 100 Now, how about you
		
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			have I picked up a new hobbies
		
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			I've become more of a do it yourself type of guy. So these do it yourself videos on YouTube, this
fan that have been broken around the apartment, or things that I would have replaced. So I have two
cats, the cats chew up my wires that you have my Mac wires, they chew up my lighting wires that you
have, my whatever. And so I've learned how to, you know, replace wires and cut wires and fixed wires
and things like that. That's the most I've been able to bring to life a couple of chargers and
things like that, that have
		
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			died recently on me. Have you been, uh, I'm even helping around the house. Of course. I'm very
helpful, bro.
		
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			Very helpful.
		
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			I'm very helpful. My problem is I'm just, I'm just here. That's the problem. But yeah. When I'm when
I'm around, I'm helpful. Dude, I, I, you know, I know, like, this may sound like I'm like, you know,
begging myself or whatever. I actually enjoy housework. Like it's very calming for me, right? What's
the like, clean my my boys have been through like the living room. It's like a war zone. Right? And
to go from that to like, Okay, I need like, you know, 2030 minutes to this, get everything back to
like nice and clean, organized, whatever, like that makes me really feel feel really good. I've
always always enjoyed that. So I don't enjoy it.
		
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			Like, you know, something, actually, I learned from should have done it a long time ago.
		
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			About how in Medina his his room was always like spotless. Yeah, and how people used to, you know,
always like to come and hang out in his room. And he was like, it's just, it's just, it's like a,
it's like a mental habit. He was like, if you wait for everything to accumulate, then it will just,
it'll just, obviously accumulate, it'll grow and then a big mission.
		
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			But say, for example, every time you walk into the kitchen, you just wash one dish.
		
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			How long does that take? like six seconds, 10 seconds. But how many times you walk into the kitchen?
Like while your coffee is brewing, for example, you have a Keurig? Well, that's brewing. Instead of
sitting there on my phone waiting for it to brew just, that's five, six dishes right there. Yeah.
While something's in the microwave for a minute, that's another seven, eight dishes right there.
Right? So it's just throughout the day, you're just kind of,
		
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			you're just cleaning.
		
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			I'm not laughing. I'm laughing because that makes complete sense. Right? Like, that's, that's
probably the best way to do it. And I can see shutting the body. Like I know, I'm like we you know,
that makes complete sense. Um, I'm laughing because I'm the exact opposite of that. Like, I like to
see things pile up. So so when I go like, do something I see. I'm like, Oh, I made
		
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			so dirty. And then like, I cleaned everything up. So it's like, a sense of accomplishment, you know?
		
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			A huge pile. I'll be like, Man,
		
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			that looks like a lot.
		
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			Tomorrow. That's abandon that. 100? And if you've you've been spending time online more time online
than usual. Yeah. A lot of time online.
		
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			A lot. A lot of it is like a motive. His work has just become so much. Yeah, on a shift to doing all
of this online work.
		
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			But, but have I been spending more or more time online outside of that? No. Yeah. Oh, really? No,
no, no. Like, for what? There's nothing. There's nothing that's taking me online more than that. I
mean, so do you? Do you keep in touch with like, Muslim Twitter?
		
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			No. Are you in the know, not on Twitter much? I'm not on Twitter much.
		
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			If it's something big enough that it reaches me. Yes. Yeah. I like a daily person on Twitter. No.
		
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			So I used to be like that. on all my social media. I don't spend time on social media. I just post
them and I'm out. But since a quarantine, I've been spending more time on Twitter. And I actually
regret it now. I'm now I don't like Twitter at all. No, no, Twitter for me is like,
		
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			I feel like and I've said this before, I feel my email and go down on Twitter. Yeah, for sure.
		
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			And I, I get disappointed a lot. So I, for me, it's not worth it. I think I gotta go back to the way
I was, man. It's really messing with me. Like, you're right. Like, yeah, there's the human side of
it, as well. Definitely. I can feel that. But also like, it's like, sometimes it's like, I don't
know, it's really disappointing sometimes. And just like, top is the stuff you see on there. It's
like, and I know like, that's the reality, right? So, you know, just because you're not just as
you're closing your eyes, doesn't mean it's not happening. But at the same time, like, just exposing
yourself to it so much is not like it's not good. I don't think it's good for like, emotional
		
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			health, emotional well being or spiritual. Like specially Muslim Twitter man, like, I don't know,
like, I wasn't, I wasn't even aware of like Muslim Twitter before the quarantine, but people like
oh, empty, empty, I could see I'd see like in tweets, I don't know what that means. And then now
it's like now like, you know, I've started following more best the other mistake I did, I started
following more people. You know, I was like, Oh, I can get the news and especially you know, when
honestly, like, you know, with Black Lives Matter and stuff like that, and I was like, Okay, so this
is a good way to like
		
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			You know, keep in, you know, see what's going on, get the latest. And then it just snowballed from
there. And then like he seemed Muslim Twitter and Muslim Twitter, oh, man somehow, like, it's insane
man. And every day is just a new, you know, something new controversy, you know, there's some
something else going on, something's happening, somebody's getting canceled, somebody's getting
called out, somebody did this and I did that we're getting called out and people don't know how to
converse. They don't know how to argue people lie.
		
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			And that lie will have 1000s of retweets.
		
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			And no one cares about the truth in that in that instant, people get slandered communities get
slandered.
		
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			For me, it's just very, it's very vexing and disappointing at the same time. So yeah, I'm not very
involved in it. And you're right. Like, even though that does, but again, is Twitter, the pulse? Is
it the reality? That's another thing, right?
		
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			It's not it's not I don't think it's the reality.
		
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			That's not to say that what we see in our massages is the reality. But yeah, I mean, it's definitely
part of the reality, right? At least a slice of it. A certain demographic, you know, is all about
Twitter. Yeah. You know, so. Yeah. So yeah, it's, it's, it's weird man, like I've hunted I've still
kept to my, like, own rules of not reacting to things happening, especially controversies and stuff
like that, and sometimes still like that. And I want to keep it that way. But I can see how it can
get really out of hand. You know, like, every time something happens, you got to write something you
got to react to you got to make a post and this and that, whatever. And I've never been like that.
		
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			And I've noticed you're not like that either. Right? I'm not I try as best as I can to never talk
about people ever. Yeah, that's a goal. A lot of people it's like, it's you don't talk about it. But
like, indirectly, you know, like people talk about what is what is it called?
		
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			passive aggressive, or meetings? Yes, that's what it is. Yeah. I mean, I try not do that either.
Yeah. I would rather just build. And a lot of times, especially when you're talking about people who
are art you're not in? They're not you're not in their community? Are you really having an effect on
the conversation? And then if all is that, what are you bringing them any closer to a law? Are you
resolving the problem in any meaningful way?
		
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			For me, that's, that's the goal. So if that's not the goal, and I'm not interested, and that's the
thing, right? Does anything ever get resolved online? I've never in my life seen arguing back and
forth. And one of them say, you know what, thanks for cursing me out.
		
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			position.
		
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			Never, never, never, never, you know, it never happened. It's just everybody shouting each other.
And nobody listened to anybody. You know, so, for me, most of the time, I don't even if I get
challenged in comments of my own post, or something like that, I just don't see. And I'm not the
argumentative type. So I don't, I don't see the need of going back and forth.
		
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			Very much. But I'll tell you something, that I just love very much. And that is
		
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			whoever lives in the in the desert becomes harsh. My second idea jefa Yeah, and social media is a
desert. People are all alone. Yeah, no, civility, they don't know how to actually interact with each
other anymore. And that's why there's so much harshness, because,
		
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			you know, that refinement that comes from social interaction, I mean, is lost on people over years
and years and years of interacting online. And so I you know, I would love to do more, like programs
that are cell phone lists in the future inshallah laughter Yeah, local business. Shall law is lifted
from us. Yeah. We're talking about retreats. We're talking where people just really just have to sit
there. No Wi Fi, no phones nothing and interact again. Like the good old days? Did I always tell my
students I said, Look, it's it's normal to
		
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			have like, to have a reaction to current events or things happening or whatever, right? That's, it's
normal as human beings, and we want to talk to somebody about it. We want to express our feelings.
That's normal. So go talk to a real human being. Right. Preferably like somebody like a mentor or
somebody, and you can discuss this issue it like, in person I know that's difficult now, right? But
that is far better than before. That was difficult. Like how many times have people tried to call,
for example, even called me right, and they want to have a long drawn out conversation. I'm like,
man, I don't have the time for that.
		
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			I mean, I'll just be honest
		
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			Like,
		
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			you know, so? So yes, I understand that that's true. because keep in mind also,
		
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			one of the negatives of celebrity culture is that those are the people whom everybody is kind of
wanting to reach out to all the time about all of their issues. And so these people become, the more
in demand they become, the more the less time that they actually have all of these meaningful
relationships. And that's why we have to teach people also that, then would it be is not necessarily
the the celebrity. Right, exactly. It doesn't even have to be necessarily the chef right at all.
Definitely, definitely, it could be that older brother or that older sister, or you know, that
brother, who's your age, or that sister, but just happens to have incredible wisdom and grounding.
		
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			100% 100% we really, like we really got to drill this idea. Like, we got to let people know, like,
Listen, you're not, you're not gonna get like,
		
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			you're not gonna get anywhere with a celebrity chef or you man, like you can't talk to them, you
can't have a conversation. Where are you? What are you going to learn? Like, yeah, you can, you
know, listen to their stuff and benefit. And that's great. But if you're really trying to, like,
better yourself, and you know, talk through some of these issues, and, you know, you have to talk to
somebody who you have access to, right. And even even, you know, when it comes to seeking Federer,
		
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			you one of the one of the conditions is you should seek better from someone you have access to.
Right? If you get like, let's say it's like a celebrity chef, you can only you see them once a year
at a conference for 20 seconds, you can talk to them. And you're like, yeah, that's my shift. That's
not your shift. That's not you're not taking like you can't, you know, what happens when you have a
question about your style, like, Oh, is this right? Or is that right? Somebody? You can call up
somebody? You can? You know, and that means Yeah, they may just be they may be a student of
knowledge. But you know, they may not be the biggest ship in the world. But access is so important,
		
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			man. And that's Yeah, that is a problem. I totally agree. That's a problem. But we're dealing when
it comes to like celebrity
		
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			chefs and sub celebrity mountains and stuff, for sure. And I think that's what we sometimes we don't
like in our space, we don't realize it, right, like as teachers and you know, public speakers,
instructors, because we don't have a problem with that, right? Because when I want to call up my
ship, it's not a problem, right? Or you want to call up your chef, or you want to call up, whatever,
it's you have easy access, right? So you're not looking You don't look at Oh, is this person, well
known are their celebrity yours, like, Oh, this is my ship, I have access to them. But I think the
you know, the average person, it's it's a lot more difficult for them, to be honest. And one of the
		
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			reasons is they're looking at celebrity chefs only, and not maybe people in their own community
		
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			that are maybe not popular online. Maybe they don't have, you know, Facebook page or like a Twitter
page or whatever. I would say that's also one of the reasons why righteous companionship is so
important. Yeah. A lot of people their circle, their immediate circle isn't necessarily righteous.
Yes. But they actually almost have to import advice, right? For sure. For sure person that they
know, for example, is that righteous or celebrity that they follow or what have you. But if you had
a circle of righteous people around you, you'd actually get grounded. Good advice.
		
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			You'd have access, right? Yeah. I think about myself when I'm 50. And when I was 13, I had problems
praying.
		
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			I was never I've never liked one of those kids who avoided praying, but I was just it was something
that I would always forget something I always forget something I always forget. Pray vote forget to
pray. I shall forget, forget. You know what I mean, just like that. So I remember talking to a
mentor of mine who was 14, right? But he was the wise 14 year olds. Yeah. And he told me he was
like, just pray for 30 days straight, make it make that your goal right in the challenge 30 days.
Yeah, inshallah, you'll be able to pray. I didn't, I didn't even know any shoe. Like I didn't. There
was no, there's nobody in the world that I had access to as far as a chef. Yeah, that time. And it
		
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			worked. 100% we didn't even know 27 days, you need 27 days to form a habit or anything like that.
And just having righteous people in your sphere, people that you know,
		
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			it helps a lot. Because, you know, like you mentioned, a lot of these questions don't even really
require a shareholder fight or anything like that, but they just require grounding and guidance and
support and yeah, absolutely. And that's actually one of the reasons why I want to do is I wanted to
call you up. I wanted people to see like what our lives are like
		
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			that we're not just on our own. You know, how to deal with this stuff.
		
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			That's amazing man.
		
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			sunbathing, some people's cats are celebrities by the way.
		
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			These are like cutest cats. You got to make it. You got to
		
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			Make an Instagram paid for your cat. I really do take like glamour shots as though I need to dig an
Instagram page and the YouTube channel also for them. Exactly, exactly have done that. No man, but I
wanted people I wanted people to see this, right. Because in my life I this is, you know, me calling
you up. I do this all the time, like I've you other people I've, you know, colleagues and friends
that I will just hit up and be like, Hey, what's up? What's going on? And through that casual
conversation, we actually end up talking about a lot of stuff. Another person that I'm close to is
sad magic.
		
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			You know, sometimes I'll just call him up, he'll call me up. And because we're going through like
similar issues, we can talk through it. And sometimes like, maybe I'm looking at something, you
know, incorrectly, or he can give me a perspective that I wasn't thinking about. And it's helped me
quite a few times. But you know, you just you use it as a reference you just used as a reference,
like another celebrity chef. Like, let's call the humble brag, you know what I just call up besides
my just my mood, you know, no big deal. But I'm like, okay, you're right. You're right. That is that
if you had mentioned, like a local friend of yours was an engineer, you know, that would have been
		
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			more helpful for people. But here's the thing, right? Like, I'll tell, let me let me defend that.
Right. It's First of all, you're right. That is that's a privilege that a lot of people don't have I
completely admit that. Yeah. Also,
		
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			it's for, for me to call up someone like that. That is someone who I can relate to, and someone who
can relate to me because they're in a very similar space in a space that I'm in, right. And they're
experiencing what I'm experiencing. So you know, I'm their timeline. A lot of times I need to speak
to someone like that, who can understand what I'm going through what I'm dealing with. So that's,
you know, that isn't completely justified.
		
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			But for me, that's, that's honestly, that's one of the reasons why I like speaking to you. I mean, I
know I've spoken to you before about, like your class or whatever, like, oh, how's it going? And
like, you know, what, you know, what did you learn or like, and there's things that you might have
caught teaching that I didn't like, I can benefit from that. I can't ask them, but I can't ask the
local engineer or whatever about, you know, travel,
		
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			teaching and stuff. Like, what's that? I always enjoy your graphic tees. What's on the shirt? Oh,
man. So you know what some had a lot of times, I don't even pay attention to my shirts. Yeah. Until
like it unlike YouTube comments or something somebody likes says like, what is that? What's going on
here? Like, oh, man, I should have thought more about what this is. It's actually just like a gas
mask. Okay. I don't know.
		
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			It's a cool shirt. People often read into my shirts. They're like, Oh, what does it mean? Like, what
are you trying to say? Or, you know, whatever. And it's like, No, it's just I like the design. You
know, it's, it's cool. So that's why. So I'm, I'm a minimalist by nature when it comes to clothes.
And I got a message today from somebody saying, you need to upgrade your wardrobe. Because all of
your videos are like the same three shirts. And what, to be fair,
		
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			I am such I have multiple versions of this.
		
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			Okay, but at the same time, I'm so particular and when I like something, it's just, I'm pretty
basic. It's just black or, you know, black. I know, I know, people. Some people have this impression
of me, like being really into like, fashion and all that kind of stuff or whatever.
		
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			However, recently, I've actually, I'm kind of like, I'm, I'm really beginning to relate to you and
that matter. And I'll tell you why. Where did they get that impression? Some people have an
impression that you're into fashion. Could it be that you have a back in mind? Could it be that you
teach it the physical fashion?
		
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			I mean, where would they get such a ridiculous? I don't know, man. I don't know. I some people and
some people have that idea. I don't know, man, who knows where they got it from. But like, for real,
though, I've been so recently. So I like wearing a lot of black because I just think black is just
elegant. And it's just simple. And it looks nice. And it's classic, classic. Exactly. So recently,
I've just been there's like, I found a really nice black tea that fits me Well, you know, it just
falls nice or whatever. And you know, it's it's summer it's hot. I bought like four or five of those
teas. And like this, oh, especially new recording videos and stuff because I was like, you know, so
		
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			many times that were like my regular like superhero tees and stuff. And always like that's an issue,
right? Like, what is it? Why are we wearing so now I'm wearing the same black T that I've been
wearing, you know people see my videos, you'll see the same black T it's not the same one obviously,
you know, I'm like a bunch of them. But it's just it makes my life so much easier. And I I'm like I
don't know if I'm getting old. But like I completely like I'm I'm loving it. You know? So my newest
my new my new thing is I'll wear like my outfits, like very simple these days. I mean always I don't
go out.
		
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			That much anyway so I'm sure that contributed to it. But simple outfit I used to wear like black you
know, or Gray's whatever. But then like my kicks I got like make sure like my character you know,
really put that in my cake. Oh, I got my first pair of Jordans this eat this past eight Mashallah, I
love my bag ever in my life. It was it was given as a gift to me. What time what what Jordans? Were
they? Jordan ones?
		
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			That I like the best ones man. The best ones down there and they're bright red. And wait, hold on,
hold on. I don't wear color like that. Are they highs? Or lows? I love Yeah, so there. That's That's
it, man. So the way they're reading what?
		
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			Don't tell me about the Chicago ones cuz that would be amazing dude. are red, white and black. Yo,
that's I think they are I don't know, I'm not a sneaker head. I don't really know, bro. I knows. I
like the the Jordans. I mentioned that and boom. Next thing I know is on the eighth one of my family
members got me.
		
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			The Jordan ones. So that's, you know, those are worth?
		
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			I'm assuming they were worth $50. How much? I think around $150. So retail Yeah, I think like
Georgia one to use at 160 or so. 121 60. I don't remember exactly. But resale on those depending
exactly which ones you have, but anywhere from like 300 to 1000 more. So maybe I should sell it.
		
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			I mean
		
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			that's a whole nother that's a whole nother I have some friends, I have some friends who will buy I
mean, they obviously they just flip sneakers, they'll buy it where at once and then they'll just
sell it. I mean, if you're flipping you don't you don't wear it. You know, because as soon as you
wear it like you lose a lot of value. But I'm really curious now. So after this call, somebody sent
me a picture because I really want to know now which which a lot of my back my love bless your
shoes. When I teach my class, I'm gonna have to have a camera on my feet. For sure. I was actually
thinking about that, by the way, cuz I always like I'm like how people, you know, outfit right? You
		
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			got to wear the whole outfit. So I just set up the camera.
		
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			I wasn't thinking about that at all. But sure.
		
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			You gave me You gave me not just fashion advice once but you gave me a fashion slogan to live by.
Oh, man. You know,
		
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			it was hiking vest. So. So I told you when I like something I just kind of stick with it. So I had a
Viking vest. I have a Viking vest because I haven't gotten rid of it. Yeah. Big leather vest that I
would wear over soaps and things like that. And I would get so much pushback on it from people
people either loved it, or they hated it. And those who hated it would give me so much pushback.
Yeah. So in a moment of self doubt, I don't even think it was a moment of self doubt. But I think it
was a discussion in the chat. And I see sad to see him send a message that says a mod. Do you boo.
		
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			Like he has spoken. The fashion icon has given me license? No, man, I thought what I usually say, by
the way, is the most fashionable thing is what you're the most comfortable and competent in. Right?
So that's it. That's for me. So I'm like yeah, of course you do you like you know you like it? Who
cares what other people think, man, you feel good in it like
		
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			I was having a discussion earlier today actually, with my family about
		
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			the problem, however, is when a person so you're talking about just black kind of simple look, or
being really fashionable. And the problem is when you're really fashionable.
		
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			A lot of times that doesn't stand the test of time. And so when you look back at people from the
early 2000s, or if you look back people 1015 years ago, the 1980s you look at them, and you're like,
what were they thinking? Yeah, the opposing view, however, is that there are some looks that are
just classic. It doesn't matter if it's the 50s or the 60s or the 70s or the 80s. You look back at
them in any period and you say they still looked good, but then you have
		
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			the extreme manifestations that end up looking.
		
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			I don't know man, I think I have to disagree with that. That is that it looks weird. Now two things
number one who says black and all black can't be fashionable, but that's it. Whatever. That's that's
another point. No, it could be very fashionable and it can be iconic for sure. Okay, yes. So the
other thing I wear all black a lot. Yeah, fashionable, and I got it a lot.
		
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			yes, so the other thing look, I just don't think you can live like that. I don't think you I don't
think one should live like that. Like oh, how is this gonna look in
		
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			30 years, you know, like, it's really hard to be like, Oh, I have to wear something that's gonna,
that's gonna last the test of time. Like, I don't know, man like 100 know, it's you feel it looks
good, you know, obviously 10 out right, but it looks good and all that kind of stuff you feel good.
And so what, 10 years later you're like, Oh, that looks pretty wack or, you know, you gotta be like
it for that time. It was amazing, right? I already have things back from like, when I started
teaching on my husband like, Oh, I wanted a way that I'm already feeling regret. Yeah, but it's not
regret though. It's, it's a little bit of regret, but part of it. Part of it. I'm like, at that
		
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			time, I liked it. It looked good on me. I think it looked good on me. And I, you know, I felt good
in it. So who cares? Like now, you know, and that's as human beings, we're always changing men were,
you know, where our sense of style is evolving. And that's fine. I think that shows growth. So I'm
tired. I don't live like that. Don't live like you know, whatever. How's it going to look? And, you
know,
		
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			you're all you're all about killing it in the present.
		
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			And in the handler, Zach allottee of man, I'm gonna I'm gonna let you go. It's time here.
		
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			But thank you so much for that. Thanks for the random call. Appreciate it. Yeah, I'll call you
again. In a couple months. It's gonna be random. It's not gonna be like, Hey, I'm gonna call you
we're gonna record it, but I'm just gonna be like, Yo, I'm calling you now. Okay, we're gonna we're
gonna catch up, inshallah. Oh, sorry, no call. Is that the lucky man? Take care. Hopefully I'll see
you soon in person, man, inshallah. Oh, so looking forward to inshallah Tada. Hello again.