Omar Suleiman – The Imam of America- From the Nation to Islam – After Hours with Imam Siraj Wahhaj

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The speakers discuss the expansion of African Americans in New York City and their community's support for their activism. They also talk about their love for masjids and their desire to give them the reward and happiness they deserve. They emphasize the importance of being patient with others, being a black person in Islam, and avoiding touching people in public. The speakers also emphasize the importance of representing yourself in the dairless community and bringing others to the point of being a blessing for everyone. Finally, they encourage people to use their Autograph to express gratitude and share experiences, and emphasize the importance of helping others, particularly those affected by the spread of Islam.

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			As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu.
		
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			Everybody, welcome to our first session of After
		
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			Hours.
		
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			Your regular host here, Shaykh Ammar Shukri.
		
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			I don't know what I'm doing.
		
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			Dr. Omar Suleiman.
		
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			And we have amongst us, we're starting.
		
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			We are starting with the best, inshallah ta
		
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			'ala.
		
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			We're starting with Brooklyn's finest, the living legend.
		
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			Allahu Akbar.
		
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			Imam Siraj Wahaj.
		
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			And it wouldn't have been appropriate to start
		
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			with anybody else, Imam Siraj.
		
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			We were going to put this podcast off
		
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			for like three months until Imam Siraj.
		
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			Why are you brothers trying to embarrass me?
		
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			Honestly, man.
		
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			You are embarrassing me.
		
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			I'm just a little guy, man.
		
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			Honestly, for real.
		
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			How many people have you embarrassed on the
		
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			court, Imam Siraj?
		
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			We're going to talk about that.
		
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			You've broken some ankles over decades, inshallah.
		
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			I did.
		
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			I probably broke your ankles a couple of
		
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			times, too.
		
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			Imam Siraj, of course, needs no introduction, but
		
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			he's been the imam at Masjid al-Taqwa
		
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			for over, Shaykh, is it almost 40 years
		
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			now?
		
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			Yeah, 41, 42 years.
		
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			Absolutely.
		
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			41, 42 years, alhamdulillah, in Brooklyn, New York.
		
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			It is a staple community in New York
		
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			City.
		
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			And you know what?
		
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			I wouldn't trade this masjid for no masjid
		
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			in the world.
		
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			They were advertising for two masjids in California,
		
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			right?
		
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			Paying the imam $250,000.
		
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			I said, what?
		
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			You're serious, right?
		
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			And you know what?
		
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			I'm very grateful for what my community gives
		
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			me, alhamdulillah.
		
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			I mean, and I don't complain.
		
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			I love this community.
		
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			Allah bless us.
		
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			Now, you know, we first started, we were
		
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			like 25 members, 100% African Americans.
		
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			Now, on average, Juma, you're talking about like
		
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			1300 people.
		
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			And we have now like 30, about 39
		
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			different nationalities.
		
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			So now the African Americans in my community,
		
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			maybe 20%, maybe 25%.
		
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			So it's been expanding.
		
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			And people, they just come.
		
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			The more we expand, the more people come,
		
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			alhamdulillah.
		
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			And we're appreciative.
		
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			You know, the average salat, we have hundreds
		
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			of people, average salat.
		
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			And it's like, I love every, I mean,
		
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			we love each other.
		
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			You know, we come and we actually love
		
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			each other.
		
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			Every day, we come to the masjid.
		
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			And it's an absolute pleasure to be in
		
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			this masjid, alhamdulillah.
		
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			MashaAllah.
		
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			I have a couple of questions just from
		
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			Nadia Ramsaraj.
		
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			The first is, I've seen a couple of
		
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			times masjid be built with the purpose of
		
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			serving a particular demographic.
		
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			I've seen masjid that are built just for
		
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			converts, like this is, this is.
		
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			Or, you know, a particular ethnic group or
		
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			what have you.
		
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			And then it almost seems like it's just
		
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			inevitable that it becomes not a monolith, but
		
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			rather something that's representative of how pluralistic our
		
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			society is ethnically.
		
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			Is that something that you see as being
		
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			positive?
		
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			Is that something that you, do you wish
		
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			that there were more masjids, for example, that
		
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			specifically served particular communities?
		
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			See, to me, all of the above.
		
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			I support any kind of masjid anywhere.
		
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			I've gone to masjids, helped to build masjids
		
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			for one ethnicity, for instance.
		
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			It's okay.
		
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			There's some localities where certain people live in
		
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			a certain, you know, area.
		
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			And so we're called upon to help them.
		
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			So I think whether you're building it for,
		
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			you know, a community, a grown community like
		
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			my community that have some senior citizens or
		
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			whether you're doing it for the youth or
		
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			whatever you're doing it for, I think all
		
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			of it is good.
		
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			And I love to do it.
		
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			I love to participate.
		
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			I love to help.
		
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			And anywhere.
		
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			One of my favorite organizations is MASS.
		
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			We have a fundraiser this weekend for MASS
		
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			in New York, and can't wait.
		
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			Can't wait to participate.
		
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			I'm one of the speakers.
		
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			And whether it's ICNA, MASS, MANA, all of
		
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			these different organizations that seek our support, I'm
		
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			happy to do it, inshallah.
		
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			So Imam Siraj, I'm going to give a
		
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			little bit of a personal journey before I
		
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			do the question, inshallah.
		
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			So, alhamdulillah, like I've known you far, far
		
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			longer than you knew me, alhamdulillah.
		
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			I kind of grew up, grew up in
		
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			your shadow, Sheikh.
		
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			So my father, father-in-law, I mentioned
		
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			this actually, were part of the organizing team
		
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			of the Ahmadiyat Jimmy Swagger debate at LSU.
		
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			Wow, is that right?
		
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			Yes.
		
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			And you were the beautiful moderator, still beautiful,
		
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			mashallah.
		
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			By the way, I just came back from
		
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			South Africa.
		
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			Oh, mashallah.
		
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			Came back from South Africa.
		
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			Yeah, in the commemoration of Ahmadiyat and the
		
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			great work that he did.
		
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			Subhanallah, subhanallah.
		
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			So you have that history, Sheikh.
		
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			You got your own history there in New
		
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			York.
		
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			I mean, I've heard it many times and
		
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			I could hear it over and over again.
		
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			Obviously, many of us grew up in the
		
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			dawah, listening to your cassette tapes.
		
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			We didn't live in New York, but, you
		
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			know, grew up on your cassette tapes, alhamdulillah,
		
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			from Azza Taqwa.
		
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			I've still got them, by the way, alhamdulillah.
		
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			I'm going to try to sell them for
		
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			a million dollars in, you know, 20 years
		
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			or something.
		
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			We're still around.
		
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			And then, you know, I remember coming on
		
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			to the dawah scene and, you know, I
		
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			used to attend your lectures at conventions and
		
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			stuff like that.
		
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			And I remember the first time having to
		
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			speak on stage with you at ICNA Atlanta,
		
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			probably 2008 or 2009.
		
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			And having to be on stage with you
		
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			and being really humbled by that.
		
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			And then, you know, subhanallah, even Hurricane Katrina.
		
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			You talked about this love that you've had
		
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			for everybody.
		
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			When Hurricane Katrina hit, I remember you driving
		
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			to Baton Rouge, Louisiana, where we had our
		
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			shelter there.
		
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			Absolutely.
		
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			I remember that.
		
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			And receiving you there in Louisiana, 2005.
		
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			And there wasn't a time that I called
		
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			upon you personally.
		
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			I can testify to this for anything with
		
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			the masjid, except that you came down and
		
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			that you honored that request.
		
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			And I just want to ask you, I
		
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			think off the bat, you know, mashallah, you
		
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			mentioned this love, alhamdulillah, that you've had.
		
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			You know, as someone who has responded to
		
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			the calls of organizations and masjids and, you
		
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			know, built so many institutions across the country.
		
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			Does it ever get tiring, Sheikh?
		
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			Have we taken advantage of you?
		
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			You know, I want to hear directly from
		
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			you, because this is after hours.
		
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			You know, we're just talking a lot.
		
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			No one else is watching.
		
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			It's just you, me, and Ammar.
		
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			Are you tired of us, Sheikh?
		
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			Have we exhausted you at this point?
		
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			Not at all.
		
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			You know, when I was born, I don't
		
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			know if you ever heard this.
		
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			My mother told me that my uncle saw
		
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			me on the day I was born.
		
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			He said, he's going to be a preacher.
		
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			Right.
		
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			And so when I was in the church,
		
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			I taught Sunday school.
		
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			In 1968, 69, I joined the Nation of
		
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			Islam.
		
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			I became a minister in the Nation of
		
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			Islam.
		
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			In 1975, alhamdulillah, when Allah blessed us to
		
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			follow the sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad, peace
		
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			and blessings be upon him, I became an
		
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			imam.
		
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			So I can't help myself.
		
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			Like, it's in my blood.
		
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			Now, I knew that.
		
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			People told me that, you know, when I
		
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			was young, what my uncle said.
		
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			But my mother told me recently that my
		
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			aunt said the same thing when I was
		
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			born.
		
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			He's going to be a preacher.
		
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			And all I can say is that this
		
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			is the great love that I have.
		
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			I remember that when I was seven years
		
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			old, I was living in Marcy Projects.
		
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			It was a Sunday.
		
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			And I was getting ready to go to
		
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			church.
		
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			And I was getting dressed.
		
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			And I said to my mother, and I
		
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			want you to look at the body language.
		
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			Why have you got to go to church
		
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			anyway?
		
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			So my mother took out a belt.
		
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			She hit me twice.
		
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			She said, now you understand why you got
		
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			to go to church?
		
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			I said, yes, ma'am.
		
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			But Alhamdulillah, I was blessed three or four
		
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			months ago to give my 89-year-old
		
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			mother's shahada from my hands.
		
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			So the same one made me go to
		
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			the church.
		
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			And now, Alhamdulillah, I was a Muslim.
		
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			And made me the happiest man in the
		
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			world.
		
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			Alhamdulillah.
		
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			Shaykh, I knew that you were trying to
		
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			give your mom da'wah.
		
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			I never knew she took shahada.
		
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			SubhanAllah.
		
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			Mashallah.
		
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			May Allah give you the reward and give
		
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			her sabbat and firmness on this faith.
		
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			And allow you.
		
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			You know what?
		
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			Let me tell you something.
		
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			You know something?
		
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			I don't get tired of this, man.
		
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			I don't.
		
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			I love it.
		
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			You know, I just love people.
		
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			Even in my own community.
		
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			I'm telling you.
		
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			Every salat.
		
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			It's crazy.
		
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			I got to shake everybody's hand.
		
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			I can't shake everybody's hand.
		
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			Every salat.
		
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			But we love each other, Alhamdulillah.
		
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			And I am so grateful to be a
		
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			Muslim.
		
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			Have you ever heard of Lou Gehrig?
		
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			Yeah, Lou Gehrig.
		
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			Lou Gehrig was a great baseball player for
		
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			the New York Yankees.
		
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			You know, he was diagnosed with a disease.
		
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			They named the disease after him.
		
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			Lou Gehrig's disease.
		
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			And he gave a very famous speech.
		
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			And he said that I consider myself the
		
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			luckiest person on the face of the earth.
		
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			And I really believe and feel myself the
		
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			luckiest person on the face of the earth.
		
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			And I don't say it to be corny.
		
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			I say it to be truthful.
		
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			I am so every day grateful for the
		
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			fact that Allah guided me to Islam.
		
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			And I'm just happy.
		
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			I'm just happy.
		
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			Imam Siraj, we can't transition from this, man.
		
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			Huh?
		
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			We can't transition from this.
		
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			I'm stunned.
		
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			I'm sitting here stunned right now.
		
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			At the amazing way of your mother accepting
		
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			Islam.
		
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			We can't go from there.
		
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			We cannot go from here, Sheikh.
		
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			I need to hear every detail.
		
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			MashaAllah.
		
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			I'm so happy.
		
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			Let me tell you something.
		
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			Let me tell you something about my mother,
		
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			right?
		
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			One of the beautiful things.
		
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			I was in New York University when I
		
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			joined the Nation of Islam.
		
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			And my mother was always supportive of me.
		
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			Always.
		
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			You know.
		
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			And to be honest with you.
		
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			Actually, she took shahada years ago.
		
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			Let me tell you what happened.
		
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			My mother and my stepfather, Loy Sage.
		
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			We loved him.
		
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			Me and my brother loved our stepfather as
		
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			much as we loved our dad.
		
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			But anyway, my mother invited us for dinner.
		
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			And my son, Mohammed, at that time was
		
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			five years old.
		
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			So my mother said, bless the table.
		
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			And my son said to my mother, he
		
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			called her Granny.
		
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			He said, Granny, when are you and Papa
		
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			going to become Muslim anyway?
		
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			Right?
		
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			So my mother said, and my stepfather, Loy
		
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			Sage.
		
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			They called them Papa.
		
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			We said, we might as well do it
		
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			right now.
		
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			So technically, they took shahada then.
		
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			MashaAllah.
		
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			Those years ago.
		
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			But they didn't grow up that way.
		
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			So this time, alhamdulillah, a few months ago,
		
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			my mother took that firm shahada.
		
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			Alhamdulillah.
		
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			I have a lot of friends, Sheikh, who
		
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			obviously they converted to Islam.
		
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			And it weighs heavy on them.
		
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			You know, their parents.
		
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			And so I'm sure it weighed heavy on
		
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			you for a long time.
		
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			And so my question is, you know, how
		
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			did you resolve it?
		
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			What was your patience like?
		
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			What was your endurance like?
		
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			What was your dua like?
		
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			What was your, you know, expectation if she
		
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			passed away without having come to this moment?
		
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			You know what, you know.
		
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			You can't guide people whom you love, but
		
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			Allah guides to the straight path, whomever He
		
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			pleases.
		
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			So we never stopped.
		
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			Because my mother was so accepting.
		
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			She accepted everything.
		
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			She never gave me difficulty.
		
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			I've always believed that she would eventually take
		
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			shahada.
		
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			But, you know, it's something that I wish
		
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			all members of my family become Muslim.
		
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			So, you know, you make effort as much
		
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			as you can.
		
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			And my mother is an incredible, incredible lady.
		
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			She was a nurse for many years.
		
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			And then she became a guidance counselor in
		
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			the school.
		
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			Smart, articulate, you know, and loving.
		
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			So she was always a very good person.
		
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			You know, I always thanked Allah for her.
		
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			And just all I can do is say
		
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			be patient with anybody.
		
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			Anybody, our friends, our family members.
		
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			Just be patient.
		
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			And try to be the very best example
		
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			you could.
		
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			And she loves her son.
		
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			Can I tell you my nickname for my
		
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			mother?
		
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			Should I say it publicly?
		
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			Please.
		
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			She calls me Marshmallow.
		
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			Oh, my marshmallow came to visit me.
		
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			So I'm Marshmallow.
		
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			MashaAllah.
		
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			MashaAllah.
		
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			You know, on a personal level, subhanAllah, my
		
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			entire da'wah, all I think about is
		
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			my mom.
		
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			You know, that's literally all I think about
		
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			is inshaAllah that Allah accepts this on her
		
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			behalf.
		
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			I can't tell you how happy I am.
		
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			Because, you know, I pray that Allah will
		
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			accept all that you do now.
		
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			And she'll have a share of that as
		
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			well as her own taking shahada towards the
		
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			end of her.
		
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			Well, may Allah give her a long life.
		
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			But in this old age, subhanAllah, that is
		
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			stunning.
		
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			And I'm grateful to Allah.
		
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			Alhamdulillah.
		
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			You know, when the Prophet salAllahu alayhi wa
		
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			sallam came back to Mecca, the story of
		
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			Abu Bakr's father, Abu Quhafa, taking shahada at
		
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			that point.
		
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			Abu Bakr radiAllahu anhu crying.
		
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			Because he said, I knew how much the
		
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			Prophet salAllahu alayhi wa sallam wanted that for
		
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			Abu Talib.
		
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			I knew how much he wanted that.
		
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			And it is sometimes really devastating to the
		
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			heart.
		
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			And of course, more so the person that's
		
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			in that situation.
		
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			You know, some of the best people, some
		
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			of the people that dedicate their lives to
		
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			da'wah and they don't get to see
		
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			that moment with their parents.
		
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			May Allah subhanAllah make it as such for
		
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			all of those noble brothers and sisters that
		
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			are in the da'wah that they see
		
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			that special shahada of their parents as well.
		
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			They see their parents embrace Islam as well.
		
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			Well, I'm working on my brother now.
		
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			He's one year older than me and he
		
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			knows all about me.
		
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			Yeah, Imam Suraj Wahaj.
		
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			So you never know, you know, so we
		
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			talk.
		
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			Very, very, very smart man.
		
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			Very educated man.
		
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			May Allah give him hidayah on your hands.
		
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			Everyone who's watching say ameen.
		
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			May Allah subhanAllah give him hidayah on your
		
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			hands.
		
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			Imam, I have to ask you, you know,
		
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			as well, subhanAllah, and this is, it's hard
		
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			to move on from that.
		
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			Like Sheikh Ammar said, we can just stay
		
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			on that the whole time, you know, just
		
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			the parents.
		
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			But when you became Muslim, when you first
		
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			came to the realization of the truth of
		
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			Islam, that this is it, and it entered
		
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			into your heart.
		
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			I remember you talking about how you wanted
		
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			to give da'wah to everybody.
		
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			Like you wanted to write letters to everybody.
		
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			You wanted to just give da'wah to
		
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			everybody.
		
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			If you're sitting, you know, however many decades
		
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			ago, in your room, and you're thinking, you
		
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			know, 30 years from now, I want to
		
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			look back.
		
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			40 years from now, I want to look
		
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			back.
		
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			And this is what I want to see
		
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			as in regards to the fruit of my
		
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			da'wah.
		
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			What would that be?
		
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			What would Imam Siraj 40 years ago be
		
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			thinking about when he's sort of mapping out,
		
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			you know, da'wah in my family, da
		
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			'wah in my community, da'wah in New
		
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			York, da'wah beyond.
		
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			What was going through your mind?
		
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			You know, it seems to me that as
		
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			much as I have done, I can do
		
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			so much more.
		
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			You know, I think back to the days
		
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			of the Nation of Islam, Malcolm X, you
		
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			know, Muhammad Ali, and all of that.
		
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			I remember what I did in the Nation
		
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			of Islam.
		
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			I knocked on thousands of doors, trying to
		
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			invite my people, African Americans, to Islam as
		
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			I understood it.
		
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			One day, I was the minister over the
		
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			temple in New York and Brooklyn.
		
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			And I told, there's a Captain Richard Aidex,
		
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			I said, and he used to drive a
		
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			school bus for the children.
		
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			I said, can you get the bus?
		
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			He said, why?
		
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			I said, I want to go drive around
		
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			the neighborhood.
		
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			And he got the bus and we drove
		
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			around and came to a park.
		
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			And I said, this is what I want.
		
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			I saw a group of people.
		
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			And I went in the midst of them,
		
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			black people.
		
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			I said, Islam is the religion for black
		
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			people.
		
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			Get in the bus.
		
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			And about 13 of them got in the
		
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			bus and we took them to the temple.
		
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			I'm saying that Allah blessed us to come
		
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			into the fullness of Islam, alhamdulillah.
		
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			Why don't we do stuff like that?
		
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			How could I leave my job to sell
		
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			a 25-cent newspaper every day and to
		
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			go knock on thousands of doors?
		
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			I want to have that same kind of
		
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			spirit so that we can have a better
		
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			impact on the people.
		
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			I think that Muslims can do much better.
		
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			So we have to organize better.
		
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			You know, the audience is bigger.
		
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			The audience is not just black people.
		
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			It's including black people, but it's also our
		
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			neighbors.
		
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			It's everyone else in the country.
		
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			And I think more than ever, the world
		
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			needs Islam.
		
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			America needs Islam.
		
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			I watch the news every day and I'm
		
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			saying, gee, we just got to do better.
		
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			And whether the people accept it or not
		
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			isn't the issue.
		
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			The issue is, are we at least striving
		
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			to do that?
		
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			So if I can look back and say,
		
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			what could we have done?
		
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			I say we could have done more in
		
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			the field of da'wah.
		
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			My love is da'wah.
		
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			So I want to see us do more.
		
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			And I intend to do that.
		
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			People in my community know that we have
		
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			some plans to go back, to go into
		
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			the society and try to have a better
		
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			impact.
		
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			You know, what's his name?
		
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			Albert Einstein.
		
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			He said the world would not be destroyed
		
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			by people who do evil, but by those
		
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			who watch them and do nothing about it.
		
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			And so it's happening right now all over
		
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			the world.
		
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			You see it happening in this country.
		
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			And so, yeah, there are people who do
		
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			evil.
		
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			But what are we going to do about
		
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			it?
		
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			And so, Imam Seraj, you know, you hearken
		
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			back a lot to the da'wah or
		
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			what you learned through the Nation of Islam.
		
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			And it seems like they took you through
		
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			a particular developmental process.
		
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			Like, did you do you feel like much
		
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			of that was taught to you or was
		
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			it that you were, you know, a lot
		
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			of it is part of your innate personality?
		
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			Because how do we replicate it and how
		
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			do we scale it ourselves as the Muslim
		
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			community?
		
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			Let me tell you the number one thing
		
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			I got from the Nation of Islam.
		
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			And when I told you I was at
		
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			the Doubletree Hotel years ago, I never forgot
		
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			that every room had a card that says
		
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			when you care, it shows.
		
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			And really, when you look at the Nation
		
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			of Islam, say what you want to say
		
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			about the Aqeedah.
		
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			Say, well, you know, they're not fully practicing
		
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			Islam or whatever.
		
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			They don't know the Quran.
		
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			But one thing they had, they had love
		
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			and care for their people.
		
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			That was the process in the Nation of
		
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			Islam.
		
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			If anything else, we learned to love ourselves
		
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			because you got to remember black people used
		
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			to hate themselves.
		
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			But one of the great things about the
		
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			Nation of Islam, they taught black people to
		
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			love themselves.
		
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			You know, when I was a student at
		
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			New York University and I had a big
		
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			Afro, my Afro was so big you can
		
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			land a plane on it.
		
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			So I was into the black, you know,
		
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			had me a goatee and had wore dashiki.
		
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			So that was the time that we started,
		
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			you know, to love black people.
		
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			I remember the very day I joined the
		
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			Nation of Islam.
		
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			I know the very suit that I wore.
		
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			And my point is the number one thing
		
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			we learned is to love black people.
		
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			That was the process to learn to love
		
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			yourself.
		
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			And I think in a way we went.
		
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			And then from there, learning to love black
		
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			people, then learning to love people.
		
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			And, you know, when I became a Muslim
		
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			in 1975, I have a love for people.
		
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			Like I'm telling you, 36, 39 nationalities in
		
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			my masjid, we have every kind of complexion
		
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			and I love them all.
		
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			So now all of this expanded.
		
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			You know, just a testimony to what you
		
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			said.
		
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			I know of a sheikh in New York
		
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			who, you know, New York was probably the
		
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			hardest community other than maybe D.C. that
		
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			was hit after 9-11.
		
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			Just under the radar and under.
		
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			And he got caught up in a case
		
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			after 9-11.
		
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			And nobody wanted to go to his court
		
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			hearings.
		
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			Nobody.
		
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			He's an Egyptian sheikh.
		
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			And so he said, one person that I
		
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			remember seeing in the courtroom was Imam Silaj.
		
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			Is that right?
		
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			Yes.
		
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			And he said, and he was like, he
		
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			said to me, he said he was like
		
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			a lion in the courtroom.
		
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			Just going like this to me, like, keep
		
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			your head up.
		
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			So he said, I never forgot that.
		
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			And so one thing that I do want
		
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			you to mention is how important is it?
		
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			Like you probably don't even remember this, but
		
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			how important are these little interactions as an
		
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			imam, as a da'ia, to be there
		
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			for people in their moments?
		
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			We have to do it.
		
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			You know, become second nature now.
		
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			In this, you know, the prophet peace and
		
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			blessing be upon him said, لا تدخلوا جن
		
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			حتى تؤمنوا ولا تؤمنوا حتى تحبوا You never
		
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			go to jinn until you believe and you
		
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			never believe until you love one another.
		
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			So we have this genuine love, you know.
		
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			So Allah put it in our hearts.
		
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			He knows how much I love my community.
		
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			We have a brother in my community from
		
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			Bangladesh.
		
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			Right.
		
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			Fajr.
		
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			He always comes to Fajr with his son.
		
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			And I noticed lately I hadn't seen his
		
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			son.
		
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			I said, where's your son?
		
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			He said, bad news.
		
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			I said, no.
		
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			You tell him Imam Suraj want to see
		
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			him.
		
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			And so a couple of days later he
		
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			came.
		
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			He came for a couple of days.
		
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			So they're having, they're having struggles.
		
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			But I'm saying to you, I love the
		
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			brothers in the masjid, the sisters in the
		
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			masjid, the African-Americans in the masjid, those
		
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			from different ethnicities.
		
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			We love them.
		
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			Allah put this love in our heart.
		
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			So wherever the Muslim is, you know, everywhere,
		
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			you know, whatever struggle they have, then we're
		
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			going to be with them.
		
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			And inshallah.
		
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			And also, I still have the love for
		
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			the people.
		
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			I want to go and do better.
		
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			I'm not satisfied with what we have done
		
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			in terms of the people we need.
		
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			We need to get on it.
		
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			Muslims everywhere need to get on it and
		
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			show that we really care for the masses
		
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			of the people.
		
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			Imam Suraj, I think, you know, when you're
		
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			talking about the love that you had for
		
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			black people and then being your own people
		
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			and then the love that you had for
		
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			all people.
		
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			I think there's also something else with the
		
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			nation of Islam.
		
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			And I think you would agree there was
		
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			also a courage, right?
		
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			The boldness of that, right?
		
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			That it wasn't just the love, it was
		
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			the courage to go out there and to
		
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			express that.
		
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			And what I want to ask you is,
		
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			you know, you saw Muslim pre 9-11
		
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			and you saw Muslims after 9-11.
		
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			Omar, you think about this.
		
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			Omar, think about this.
		
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			Think about it.
		
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			Can you hear me?
		
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			Yeah, we can hear you.
		
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			The thing is, I have to admit, nation
		
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			of Islam, courage.
		
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			You said it.
		
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			Just think about this for a moment, right?
		
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			Me selling by myself a 25-cent newspaper,
		
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			going into the projects, going to the roughest
		
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			areas.
		
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			And you know what?
		
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			They never bothered me.
		
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			They never bothered me because there was a
		
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			certain respect that the black people had for
		
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			the nation of Islam.
		
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			They felt that the nation of Islam, two
		
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			things, that number one, they love their people.
		
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			Number two, they don't take no mess.
		
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			We trained, all of us.
		
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			We studied.
		
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			We studied martial arts, all of us.
		
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			We studied, you know, and we're not one
		
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			afraid of nobody.
		
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			And there's instances, I've spoken about it publicly,
		
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			where I go, I went into a building,
		
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			I saw two guys there, and I knew
		
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			they were going to try to rob me.
		
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			I knew it.
		
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			And I still went in and took out
		
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			a newspaper and put it under the arms
		
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			of each one of them and I said,
		
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			give me 25 cents.
		
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			And one guy to my right took out
		
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			a gun and said, you know what, you
		
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			just can't rob a Muslim, put his gun
		
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			back in his paper and give me 25
		
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			cents for the newspaper.
		
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			So there's a certain kind of courage that
		
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			we had in the nation of Islam and
		
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			a certain kind of respect.
		
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			Imam Talib told me once in Harlem, there
		
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			was an African American woman.
		
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			She was walking down the street in the
		
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			evening and some two men looked like they
		
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			were following her.
		
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			So she picked up her pace and they
		
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			picked up their pace and she started to
		
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			run.
		
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			They started to run.
		
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			And just when they're about to grab her,
		
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			she had a hoodie on, the hoodie fell
		
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			off, revealing a kimar.
		
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			And they stopped and said, oh, sister, we're
		
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			so sorry.
		
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			Oh, please, please forgive us.
		
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			We're sorry.
		
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			So the nation of Islam had a certain
		
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			kind of respect in the community because what
		
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			they showed and their love for the people.
		
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			So I think that's part of it.
		
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			So, Sheikh, I think the connection that you're
		
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			hitting on, you know, not just love and
		
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			courage, but self-respect versus, you know, or
		
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			how that's tied to the respect that others
		
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			have for you.
		
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			And, you know, a lot of why we
		
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			launched this podcast and it's kind of a
		
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			perfect conversation is you've seen the dawah pre
		
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			9-11 and the way that the dawah
		
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			has changed after 9-11.
		
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			And maybe the tenor of the dawah and
		
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			the community sort of going into self-preservation
		
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			mode and a fear overtaking the community that
		
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			definitely affected the tone of the dawah.
		
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			But it might not all be bad.
		
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			You know, maybe we shifted in some good
		
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			ways.
		
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			Maybe we shifted in some bad ways.
		
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			I know you're an optimist, mashallah, so you
		
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			always got good things to say.
		
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			But what have you seen over the last...
		
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			Can't help myself.
		
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			Alhamdulillah.
		
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			What have you seen, Sheikh, the shift?
		
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			How did 9-11 affect particularly the dawah
		
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			as you see it and the way that
		
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			the community views itself and views, you know,
		
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			our brothers and sisters who aren't Muslim and
		
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			humanity, right?
		
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			You know, there's a saying that African-Americans
		
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			have, right?
		
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			These are white folks, right?
		
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			So, it's like, we, you know, we have
		
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			a saying, like, we don't eat rabbit meat.
		
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			We ain't afraid, right?
		
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			And I know that what happened, 9-11,
		
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			people were scared.
		
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			Muslims were scared.
		
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			They were nervous.
		
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			You know, they wouldn't go out.
		
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			And we did just the opposite.
		
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			We felt that it was necessary for us
		
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			to represent ourselves.
		
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			So, I think people coming out more now.
		
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			I just came back from Detroit.
		
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			In Dearborn, some of the Muslims are fighting,
		
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			arguing about * books and stuff that they're
		
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			putting into the schools.
		
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			So, they're coming out now.
		
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			And all over America, you see Muslims standing
		
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			up as they should in every part of
		
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			the country.
		
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			So, I think that Allah has given us
		
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			some courage.
		
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			And may Allah support us to continue.
		
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			But the courage isn't to say that we
		
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			bad guys.
		
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			Yo, man, we tough.
		
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			No, the courage is that this is Islam.
		
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			And we're here to benefit.
		
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			What's his name?
		
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			Toynbee.
		
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			Arnold Toynbee said that Islam is the only
		
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			answer.
		
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			For all of the, for America, for America
		
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			to become better, for the world to become
		
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			better, Islam is the answer.
		
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			We believe that.
		
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			So, we're not trying to, you know, get
		
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			something from, you know, we're trying to give
		
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			something.
		
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			And what we're trying to give is this
		
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			message that will be beneficial for everybody.
		
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			Imam Siraj, with the love that you have
		
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			for the Muslim community, have you ever been
		
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			disappointed in the Muslim community?
		
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			And number two, have you ever been disappointed
		
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			in the Muslim community?
		
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			And number two, how do you deal with
		
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			disappointment?
		
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			I can't, you know, I can't be disappointed.
		
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			It is what it is, Sheikh.
		
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			You know, when you study history, you find
		
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			out people are who they are.
		
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			But you keep on going and you keep
		
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			on, you know, you keep on preaching.
		
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			Let me tell you something about a man
		
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			that you heard about named Muhammad Ali.
		
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			I hung out with Muhammad Ali.
		
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			And, you know, he was a great brother.
		
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			Most people don't realize there was a brother
		
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			in Chicago named Amir Ali.
		
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			He used to make these Dawah pamphlets.
		
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			What is Islam?
		
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			Who is Muhammad?
		
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			And people don't know that Muhammad Ali would
		
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			buy cases of that.
		
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			And whenever people asked for his autograph, it
		
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			was always, I'm walking down the street in
		
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			Manhattan.
		
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			Cops are stopping, can we get your autograph?
		
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			So Muhammad Ali gets one of these pamphlets
		
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			about what is Islam.
		
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			He signs it and he gives it to
		
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			them.
		
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			So the thing is that people are how
		
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			they are, you know, people.
		
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			And so we have to be who we
		
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			are.
		
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			And the Prophet, peace and blessing be upon
		
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			him, didn't have it easier than we have.
		
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			These people fought him.
		
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			They tried to kill him.
		
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			They killed some Muslims.
		
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			And yet the Prophet, peace and blessing be
		
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			upon him, he kept on and he kept
		
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			on.
		
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			And we have to keep on, you know,
		
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			keep on.
		
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			And I'm an optimist, you know, and I
		
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			believe that it'll make a difference.
		
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			It'll make a difference.
		
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			Constant dripping of water on a stone will
		
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			drill a hole in the stone.
		
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			You know, not a tornado, earthquake, you know,
		
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			hurricane, but it's consistency.
		
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			And keep on letting people know who we
		
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			are.
		
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			You'll see, you'll change some hearts.
		
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			I know you've got to, I know you've
		
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			got to run.
		
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			I just wanted to, this is sort of
		
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			a comment and a question sort of in
		
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			closing.
		
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			But a lot of times we don't tell
		
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			people how much we appreciate them.
		
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			And we don't tell them how much we
		
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			appreciate them in public.
		
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			Imam Siraj, we love you for the sake
		
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			of Allah.
		
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			We credit to you the work that we
		
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			do.
		
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			Yaqeen is on your scale, Sheikh.
		
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			I told you that when you came and
		
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			visited us here.
		
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			Alhamdulillah.
		
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			Al-Maghrib is on your scales.
		
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			Sheikh Mohammed Al-Sharif, Rahimahullah, always talked about
		
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			you and how much he loved you.
		
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			I remember when we spoke about you together.
		
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			I actually can remember the vivid conversation of
		
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			Sheikh Mohammed Al-Sharif and I speaking about
		
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			how we need to do more for Imam
		
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			Siraj, more for your community, more to honor
		
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			you and the legacy that you have.
		
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			So a lot of times we don't tell
		
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			people how much we appreciate them.
		
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			Imam, I just want you to know, all
		
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			of us are children on the dawah scene.
		
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			And we've learned from you and we've benefited
		
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			from you and we continue to benefit from
		
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			you.
		
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			And we ask Allah to reward you for
		
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			it.
		
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			And we ask Allah to bless you for
		
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			it.
		
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			And we ask Allah to forgive any shortcomings
		
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			on your behalf and any shortcomings that we
		
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			have in carrying the torch forward that you've
		
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			handed to us with strength.
		
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			Alhamdulillah.
		
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			May Allah forgive us for that.
		
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			Thank you.
		
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			Advice, Imam Siraj, what's your last naseeh?
		
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			Wait a minute, wait a minute.
		
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			But how much have I gotten from you
		
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			and the rest of the Muslims?
		
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			You know, I appreciate it that the Muslims
		
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			welcomed us, you know, and with all our
		
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			comments, you know, they welcomed us.
		
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			And may Allah bless us.
		
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			I remember years ago, I used to go
		
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			to Isha, but I would go to my
		
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			notebooks, you know, and I learned so much.
		
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			And I think I remember one day someone
		
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			said to the head of president of ISNA,
		
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			you know, this guy, Siraj Wahaj, you know,
		
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			he can give a talk.
		
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			And I remember my first talk at ISNA,
		
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			they put me on.
		
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			So they said, OK, put this, you know,
		
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			put him with Yusuf Islam, right?
		
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			First talk I gave to ISNA, I'll never
		
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			forget.
		
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			When I finished my talk, about 13 people
		
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			came up to me and said, can we
		
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			get your contact?
		
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			So that's that's when it began.
		
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			So it's a it's a mutual love, man,
		
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			really.
		
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			And you too, Omar, all the years and
		
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			all the, you know, the wonderful things that
		
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			you have done, you continue to do.
		
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			May Allah continue to bless you.
		
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			Yaqeen, all the good work that you do,
		
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			man, give you an abundance of good.
		
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			I'm just a little guy, man, trying to
		
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			make a little contribution.
		
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			You know, Sheikh Omar, I don't know if
		
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			if you were aware, even when speaking about
		
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			Al Maghrib Al Sheikh Mohammed Al Sharif, when
		
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			we did Umfest in New York way back
		
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			in the day, we had a conference and
		
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			we had Imam Siraj Wahaj as the surprise
		
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			guest.
		
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			And Sheikh Mohammed, he made this beautiful video.
		
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			I think it's still available online of a
		
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			testimony to Sheikh Mohammed.
		
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			And he told him that when he went
		
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			to the University of Medina and the Sheikh
		
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			was interviewing him, asked him and he said,
		
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			who do you want to be like?
		
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			And he said, I want to be like
		
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			Imam Siraj.
		
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			And Al Maghrib and Yaqeen, inshallah, much more
		
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			than that are on your scales.
		
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			May Allah protect you and preserve you and
		
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			accept from you.
		
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			Thank you.
		
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			Thank you so much, man.
		
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			I appreciate it.
		
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			I love you guys, man.
		
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			Keep up the great work that you're doing.
		
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			We love you, too, Imam, and we appreciate
		
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			your time and we don't want to take
		
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			advantage of it.
		
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			We're just going to tell everyone to please,
		
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			Imam Siraj, how can people support Masjid Taqwa
		
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			and how can people find your work online?
		
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			Where can people find your work?
		
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			We're going to send some, we're going to
		
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			send, we'll send out shortly, maybe the next
		
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			day or two, some of the ways you
		
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			can help.
		
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			You can always, you can always send some
		
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			money, that'll help.
		
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			But we're going to send the plans and
		
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			exactly what we intend to do.
		
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			And then you'll get the information, inshallah.
		
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			JazakAllah khair.
		
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			We love you, Imam.
		
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			JazakAllah khair.
		
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			JazakAllah khair.
		
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			Thank you.
		
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			Me, too.