Nouman Ali Khan – Legal & Comparative Tafsir – Tadabbur – #11 – The Quran Library

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The speakers discuss various books and their potential for learning, including the title " Akam al Quran" and "Abba Ali Asur offline." They also mention various books and events related to the Quran, including a book on the theory and the idea behind Tabur and a book on the connection between spiritual and academic work. They emphasize the importance of building a culture of TadaGeneration and one month of devotion, and encourage people to read and use the book and create a culture of Tada MAC.

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			What would you say more broadly? What do
		
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			you understand by the word Tadabur? And what
		
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			does it cover?
		
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			Gosh.
		
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			What Tadabur covers is to me the
		
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			My friend Yacine was just telling me this
		
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			is a best selling book in the Arab
		
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			world.
		
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			And that I think to be honest is
		
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			is a starting point that everyone should have
		
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			access to and I feel sad that
		
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			many
		
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			people who believe in the Quran and love
		
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			the Quran
		
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			just haven't found an easy resource that just
		
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			opens that up for them, you know, and
		
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			I think that's very important.
		
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			And welcome to great books about the Quran
		
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			with Sheikh Suhay bin Nourmand. In today's episode,
		
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			I have no idea what we're gonna do.
		
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			We are starting with a look through the
		
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			category of Akam al Quran.
		
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			Okay. So we saw Al Qurtubi Tafsir. Remember
		
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			we talked about Qurtubi Tafsir? I mentioned how
		
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			there is
		
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			a genealogy of,
		
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			of commentaries which are focused on.
		
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			Sometimes scholars have said Yeah. Ata has rulings
		
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			in them. 500,
		
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			verses, but the exact number, you know, can't
		
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			really be pinned down. But,
		
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			500 of 6,000 something
		
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			tells you roughly the proportion of things that
		
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			are directly relevant to,
		
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			fiqi rulings.
		
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			So you get works on that topic in
		
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			the modern period.
		
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			This is by the late Sheikh Sabouni Tafsir
		
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			Ayat al
		
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			Hakam.
		
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			Actually, his title is up here, very tiny,
		
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			Rawah al Bayan. I was like, I'm sure
		
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			it was called Rawah al Bayan.
		
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			It's
		
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			there.
		
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			But you've got also things which are,
		
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			so that's a contemporary one. And then we've
		
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			got Sheikh Ali Asaias,
		
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			this one Tafsir Laiatl Hakam.
		
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			But then classically,
		
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			I don't really have I don't have the
		
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			classical work. So you've got,
		
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			Akam al Quran in the Maliki school, we've
		
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			got in the Hanafi school.
		
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			So you've got Abu Bakr ibn Arabi, you've
		
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			got,
		
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			Abu Bakr Razi Al Jassas,
		
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			and then you've got also,
		
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			I'm sure the Shafais have got some as
		
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			well. Ilkiya Al Harasi?
		
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			Oh, okay. Just checking with my Shafais over
		
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			here.
		
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			So
		
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			this book is,
		
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			titled Akam al Quran
		
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			of,
		
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			Al Bayhati.
		
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			So this is basically taken from Al Shafi'i's,
		
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			you know, teachings very directly. And as I
		
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			understand, I haven't read this work yet.
		
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			There is a bit of,
		
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			you know, exploration here about the methods used
		
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			in this genre.
		
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			Interesting.
		
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			So
		
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			it's interesting. I haven't read it yet, so
		
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			I can't say much about it.
		
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			But, you know, this is generally the fiqi
		
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			lens, you could say Yeah. In the Quran
		
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			and with it, the usuli lens, that is
		
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			to say extracting
		
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			the principles that are pertinent to legal thinking.
		
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			And this is this is an Usuli type
		
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			book as well as al Isharat al ilahiya
		
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			ila mabahat al usuliya. Mhmm. But al Tufi,
		
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			so it's a classical book which
		
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			is reading the Quran in terms of what
		
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			principles it gives for legal methodology.
		
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			And the Sur Al Fiqh is not just
		
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			legal methodology,
		
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			because the Sur Al Fiqh then becomes also
		
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			relevant to tafsir and so on because
		
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			you know, interpreting texts
		
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			Right. Is is, of course, part of the
		
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			Quran and part of the study of the
		
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			Quran. And,
		
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			so that's why when we talk about usulatafsir,
		
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			actually, there's a lot of overlap with usulatafsir,
		
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			I don't think I made that point when
		
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			we were talking about Surat Tafsir. Right.
		
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			But there is in fact,
		
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			one book on my shelf over there by
		
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			doctor Fayed Al Wahbi,
		
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			the same
		
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			author is this book here,
		
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			So the methodology
		
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			of extracting
		
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			rulings in particular
		
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			from the Quran. He's got another book about
		
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			the overlap between,
		
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			Al Masa'il Mushtaraka
		
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			al Masa'il Mushtaraka bayinah Qutub Ulam al Quran
		
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			while Sul Fak.
		
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			Oh, wow, okay. So there are things which
		
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			are discussed in both, and then occasionally there
		
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			are things in Sul Fak that are not
		
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			in Sul Fak that are not in Sul
		
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			Fak.
		
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			So istimbat
		
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			is is related to that. So how do
		
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			we extract
		
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			rulings?
		
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			Of course, not we, like, all of us,
		
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			but those who are Do we? Will do
		
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			it. Yeah. Those
		
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			So but Istimbath as a concept is a
		
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			bit broader than just extracting
		
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			fit key rulings. It could be extracting
		
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			Ethical principles or
		
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			anything pertinent to something you're gonna build some
		
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			conclusion upon and some action upon. So this
		
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			book is really cool. I wanna give you
		
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			a chance to
		
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			explore this one.
		
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			Not the best edition of it, but it's
		
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			just the one that I have by Imam
		
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			Suyuti.
		
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			I know it looks like it's by this
		
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			guy, but it's the it's a tiny tiny
		
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			name. Oh, hey,
		
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			So you'd think that this was Yahoo.
		
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			No. But that's not even the person who
		
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			did the the editing. That's that guy here.
		
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			He did the editing, and he oversaw the
		
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			editing, and he wrote the book.
		
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			So there's a lot of Istimbath that's required.
		
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			Istimbath of how this happened is another question.
		
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			So,
		
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			this is not a great addition, but what's
		
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			cool about it is Imam Suyuti goes through
		
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			the whole Quran and,
		
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			he finds you know, he he mentions what
		
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			different things have been extracted from each,
		
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			ayah of the Quran, sometimes by the fuqaha,
		
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			sometimes by the muttaqalimun
		
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			or by the Usul
		
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			Yun, by the philosopher maybe, maybe by the
		
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			scientists, or I don't know
		
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			the extent of it.
		
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			And he's not necessarily saying that all of
		
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			these conclusions are good,
		
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			He'll mention things that sometimes are very weak
		
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			and implausible.
		
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			Mhmm. But I really like this in terms
		
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			of, being part of a curriculum of study
		
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			because it's important to see what kind of
		
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			things people have
		
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			found in the Quran so that you can
		
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			also learn,
		
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			to sift between,
		
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			as you say,
		
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			Did you find anything that's just for us?
		
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			Very strange stuff, but, yeah. I opened it.
		
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			I kind of ran up. Wasn't strange?
		
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			So you're reading about
		
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			Okay. Yeah. So it's
		
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			so the story of the fact that the
		
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			the the the mother of Maryam,
		
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			Is a has having a problem that Maryam
		
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			is a girl. Yeah. And it's not like
		
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			well, it's not like a girl, and if
		
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			she was made for From that, you can
		
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			surmise that
		
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			women are not,
		
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			suitable to be,
		
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			to be put as the the the servants
		
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			in the in the temple.
		
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			So, yeah, in fact, I remember this, I've
		
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			read someone else about his, you know, about.
		
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			In fact, let me see here.
		
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			And then he says
		
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			So I guess not a legal verdict, but
		
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			he's extrapolating from it a principle, a faith
		
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			principle. Yeah. So he when he says just
		
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			the lubihi, he's just telling you that, you
		
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			know, someone has
		
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			someone somewhere has drawn this conclusion from you.
		
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			I see. He's not endorsing every little thing.
		
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			But as I recall, there are sometimes things
		
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			which are not kind of
		
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			just fit key things.
		
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			Let's see.
		
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			Oh, okay. So, yeah, this is an interesting
		
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			one. Yeah. So the ayat
		
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			So
		
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			Iblis is saying to our mother and father,
		
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			Adam and Hawa,
		
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			that
		
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			your lord only forbid you from this tree
		
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			lest you become
		
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			angels. So he said the who have the
		
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			view that angels are better than men used
		
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			as a as a proof of that.
		
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			Mhmm. As for the those who responded to
		
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			this,
		
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			It's amazing that someone will see this as
		
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			a proof that angels are better.
		
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			Right. So how can you
		
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			put Iblis as an authority in anything?
		
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			And all of this, he's not exactly misled.
		
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			And Iblis told the truth on this occasion,
		
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			you
		
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			know.
		
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			So he gives a a bit of commentary
		
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			here, but he doesn't almost do that. So
		
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			this is a really it's a it's a
		
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			fascinating book. I'd I'd really love to go
		
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			through this in a systematic way and Yeah.
		
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			And
		
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			It's an interesting way of looking at the
		
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			eye and what can we extract from it.
		
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			It's an interesting process.
		
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			This is a book by a student of
		
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			Muhammad Abu Musa that we saw,
		
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			Mahmoud Tawfiq Sad. Mhmm.
		
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			Subal
		
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			Istanbul Al Mu'ani min al Qurani was Sunnah.
		
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			Okay. So apparently, this is important. I'm told
		
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			that this this madrasah of of thinkers are
		
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			really,
		
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			strong, but I haven't had a chance to
		
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			study that yet.
		
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			So this will help us to move on
		
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			to our next topic,
		
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			which is,
		
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			differences
		
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			of approach amongst the mafasirin. So this particular
		
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			book is specific to
		
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			the context of Ayat al Hakam. So why
		
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			do the Mafasidians have different perspectives on Ayat
		
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			al Hakam? It shouldn't be surprising that they
		
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			do,
		
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			but it is important to study that carefully.
		
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			So here I have a very precious little
		
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			collection,
		
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			which is I've just sort of formed
		
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			recently from, from the books that I have
		
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			concerning the issue of difference,
		
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			among them for Selim.
		
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			And, you know, part of that
		
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			is about differences between the salaf, that is
		
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			to say between the sahaba, dabein, or between
		
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			different
		
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			generations among them. So these are books that
		
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			are published in
		
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			this is Dara ibn al Jawzi,
		
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			Both of them
		
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			are. So it's, you know, it's not like
		
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			a hidden thing. I mean, people who to
		
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			whom salafi tafsir is important
		
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			do talk about this.
		
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			Iftila fu salafi tafsir,
		
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			and that one is.
		
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			So it's istidraqaat that I'm particularly interested in.
		
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			The idea that somebody states an opinion
		
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			and then someone comes along later and says,
		
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			no. We need to correct this opinion. I
		
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			want to respond to it.
		
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			Because this sets the stage for what we
		
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			could call,
		
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			tafsir debates.
		
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			We could call
		
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			it tafsir critique. So this is a nice
		
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			book from Marcus Tafsir called.
		
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			I just didn't notice it rhymes, kind of.
		
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			So the craft of criticism
		
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			yeah. Criticism is not necessarily, you know, just
		
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			calling something bad, but it just means,
		
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			analyzing
		
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			and commenting on earlier opinions. So the tafsir
		
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			of bin Adia here is taken as a
		
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			case study,
		
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			by this author
		
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			who is the head of the Usul Tafsir
		
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			unit at Marcus Tafsir.
		
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			So I'm interested to dig into these.
		
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			And then
		
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			these 3,
		
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			I feel very pleased to have, you know,
		
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			found these disparate titles and brought them together
		
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			because they have something in common.
		
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			So we talked about hashias.
		
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			Yep.
		
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			So the hashia is where you've got,
		
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			a scholar takes a text which has become
		
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			kind of like a
		
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			a well established
		
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			source text like the kashaf of Zamach Shari
		
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			or the the Anwaru Tanzil of Al Beddawi,
		
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			or Dzalalayn,
		
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			and they write a commentary on that tafsir.
		
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			So they expand the ideas, but they also
		
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			might criticize some specific points
		
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			within the tafsir. Right. So that's, you know,
		
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			this book is a really nice,
		
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			way in to study this,
		
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			Hasia tradition because the author, Al Khirmani,
		
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			I mean, the way it's structured
		
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			is that,
		
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			you have
		
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			some selected texts from the Kashaf,
		
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			which some scholars have actually
		
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			commented on and responded to and debated.
		
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			Right? So let me see how it works.
		
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			So here, for example, this is something a
		
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			section from the Kashaf of Zebakshari. Mhmm. And
		
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			then here is a word called the takrib,
		
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			which gives some kind of response to it.
		
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			And then comes Atibi, that's the big hash
		
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			here that we've seen up there. Yeah.
		
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			And then a Saraji.
		
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			So there's a kind of, like, back and
		
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			there's a back and forth and discussion happening,
		
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			but it's here, it's very concentrated, like, examples
		
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			chosen that are actually
		
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			interesting enough, and and this author, Al Karmani,
		
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			has gathered them together. That's very cool. So
		
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			you can study specifically the issues where there
		
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			is some interesting debate instead of, of course,
		
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			reading a whole mass Lumbness. Yeah. A massive
		
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			hashia and not knowing where. And then going
		
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			to another hashia to accidentally find a response
		
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			to that Right. In that house. Right. So
		
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			this I mean, imagine how precious somebody has
		
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			extracted these debates. So you can see specifically
		
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			points that are debated, and they're not always
		
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			the points that you might think are, like,
		
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			really hot issues.
		
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			It could be on just a little point
		
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			of grammar.
		
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			It could be on a point of theology.
		
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			It could be all sorts of things.
		
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			But this is,
		
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			it's a beautiful thing to see
		
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			how the mfasir also discuss with each other,
		
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			debate with each other,
		
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			because it's a very
		
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			live subject. It's a very lively subject. People
		
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			seem to think tafsir is like, oh, you
		
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			just take a statement. Oh, no. Someone said
		
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			it already. They said the meaning. That's it.
		
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			You just have to pass that on.
		
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			But this shows you really the the depth
		
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			and the and how interesting it is.
		
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			This is one
		
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			which
		
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			is,
		
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			minister Dhruqat, Ibn Muthafar al Razi Alatasir Thalabi.
		
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			So I don't know really anything about Ibn
		
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			Muldafar who's mentioned here.
		
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			But Tassir Salabi is, is famous part of
		
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			the Nishapuri school that we briefly alluded to.
		
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			Yeah. But the point is
		
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			of 1 tafsir or another.
		
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			So this looks really fascinating. It's an Azeri
		
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			scholar, and
		
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			the introduction is done by someone I could
		
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			count as a teacher,
		
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			who was the head of the Kuwait Local
		
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			Arabiya,
		
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			and he became
		
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			the president of the university as well. So,
		
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			again,
		
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			carefully selected
		
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			issues.
		
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			And it has
		
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			So these 3 tafsirs,
		
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			they are istidraqat
		
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			by,
		
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			Maghribi and the Lucy scholar, Ibn Arafah,
		
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			who then,
		
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			you know, he's disagreeing with certain things of
		
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			those 3 tafsirs. I see. Now any tafsir
		
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			like, you could pick up Ibn Ashoor. You
		
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			could probably compose the books of.
		
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			Right. Someone will do it. It will happen.
		
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			But in the meantime, we have these as
		
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			well,
		
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			which, again, the the mentality that it builds,
		
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			I think very powerful because then then what
		
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			we're saying,
		
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			is that
		
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			our history is a history of
		
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			very engaged intellectual disagreement and debate,
		
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			and we're building ideas atop one another. And
		
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			people are not just taking lock, stock, and
		
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			barrel what's been said and then moving on.
		
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			And this this is happening from the earliest
		
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			times in Islamic history.
		
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			Yeah. So, you know, the simplistic idea, this
		
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			is,
		
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			this is what the Mufasilun
		
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			said.
		
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			Really? Which Mufasilun?
		
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			This is what the Mufasilun said. Was there
		
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			was there an astiddraq
		
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			on what this Mufasil said?
		
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			Is there a new name? Saw the beautiful
		
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			thing in Tafsila al Lusi where he he
		
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			really he brings that all together. But, again,
		
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			that's Tafir, Tafir. So it's nice to have
		
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			a selection
		
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			of, of of,
		
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			circumstances. And we can call this comparative tafsir.
		
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			That's the term that's used for tafir al
		
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			Muqaren. Mhmm. This is by, a female duktura,
		
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			Raouda Abdelkareem Frahoun. There are people called Frahoun.
		
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			Don't be too shocked.
		
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			And the and the supervisor of that was
		
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			Fadl Hasan Abbas, the Jordanian scholar that we
		
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			mentioned before.
		
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			So
		
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			I just I'd love the opportunity
		
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			to, you know, to have a class where
		
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			we study this stuff, but,
		
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			yeah, I need you need people who are
		
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			are ready for that journey. Perhaps when we
		
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			get to certain Suras where
		
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			we need to discuss legal issues or some
		
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			critical historical issues, we might have to consult
		
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			these sources and Yeah. For sure. Trace those
		
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			debates. Yeah.
		
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			Right. So I'm plucking up
		
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			quite a wide range of books just now
		
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			for the last topic that we'll be covering,
		
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			which is broadly speaking,
		
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			or
		
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			reflection upon the Quran. Oh my god. You
		
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			have. Okay.
		
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			Which one? I'll I'll show you.
		
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			Oh, yeah. This is the older one? Yep.
		
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			Yeah. Go on. I've done. Read it.
		
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			This was very informative for me.
		
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			These are some various books that are either
		
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			in the sort of theory of Tadabur
		
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			or and the practice of Tadabur.
		
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			Before we even get to that, I mean,
		
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			like,
		
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			I wanted to mention this under Surah Tafsir,
		
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			so I'll just put it here so we
		
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			can have an excuse to talk about it.
		
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			It's a book called
		
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			k. My upside in reading is not fully
		
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			up to speed yet. So the author, doctor
		
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			Hatem Al Aouni is based in Mecca.
		
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			This
		
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			signed copy.
		
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			What? Because I I I got it signed
		
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			when I came to London.
		
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			So this is very unusual, to be honest,
		
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			this book, because, first of all,
		
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			it just kind of recognizes that there could
		
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			be a thing
		
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			called being a mufassar
		
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			and that you might actually want to develop
		
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			that skill
		
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			and that there is not a closed gate,
		
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			you know, forever and ever. Only dead people
		
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			can be read? And only dead people can
		
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			be Amufasiran.
		
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			So I really like that concept and the
		
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			book itself has got very nice kind of
		
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			thought process
		
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			for, you know, how you can develop the
		
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			skills of mufassar. It doesn't mean at the
		
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			end of finish you finish this book, you're
		
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			a mufassar. It just means you've got some
		
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			idea about what is the route
		
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			to being mufassar. And I think that is
		
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			hardly
		
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			broached as even an idea or a concept.
		
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			So then,
		
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			we've talked about
		
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			extracting things, and that's part of Tadabur.
		
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			What would you say more broadly? What do
		
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			you understand by the word Tadabur? You know,
		
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			what does it cover?
		
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			Gosh.
		
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			What Tadabur covers is to me the purpose
		
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			of the ayah.
		
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			Like, beyond the meaning, what does this ayah
		
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			mean
		
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			for me? What's the wisdom, counsel, guidance?
		
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			Who is its target audience,
		
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			if not just myself? And what is it
		
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			telling them?
		
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			So,
		
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			where tafsir
		
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			is concerned with the what,
		
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			what it means.
		
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			I think the line between tafsir and Tadabur
		
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			is,
		
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			okay, now I know what this means. Why
		
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			did he say it?
		
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			What's what am I getting from this? What
		
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			am I to take from this? What is
		
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			he telling me from this?
		
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			So it's actually an exploration
		
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			of the wisdom behind what is said. So
		
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			I think that in that sense, it is
		
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			built on top of understanding the meaning.
		
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			Right? And in fact, in that sense, tafsid
		
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			is actually the means to the larger end.
		
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			Tamita Dabur is the end.
		
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			And tafsid is like,
		
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			okay, now I understand the base
		
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			meaning of what Allah is saying. I understand
		
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			the different ways to grasp it, what these
		
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			words could mean, what the what the history
		
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			of this ayah is telling us or,
		
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			you know, all the different principles we apply
		
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			in extracting the meaning. But then on top
		
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			of that is actually a deeply spiritual exercise.
		
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			What makes this profound? What makes this divine?
		
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			You know, those 2 ayaat that Allah mentions
		
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			tadabur and complains
		
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			of halayat tadaburun al Quran? It's interesting that
		
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			one of them points at the heart and
		
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			the other one points at the mind, like
		
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			So there's also like Tadabur will lead me
		
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			to
		
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			recognize the awesome divinity of the wisdom.
		
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			Right?
		
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			And it will, on the other hand, also
		
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			unlock,
		
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			things in me.
		
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			You know, that
		
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			so that that's how I see Tadabu as
		
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			actually a highly spiritual exercise.
		
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			Yeah. I think that's very useful.
		
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			Spiritual and intellectual, as you said. Yeah. Because
		
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			I think that a mufassir,
		
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			someone who is
		
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			explaining the Quran
		
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			in an authoritative way or exploring it. I
		
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			like to call them fasr explorers and explainers
		
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			of the Quran because I think they have
		
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			to be both. Yep. The exploration part is
		
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			the dabboor,
		
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			and the explanation part
		
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			really
		
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			must be left to the scholars. Right? But
		
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			the scholars have their
		
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			Right. Based on, you know, you become an
		
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			expert diver.
		
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			You know,
		
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			I myself, I don't have any experience diving.
		
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			Right? I could snorkel. You know, I could
		
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			be allowed in the water but if I
		
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			can't even swim I shouldn't go in the
		
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			water but diving, you know, there has to
		
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			be stages
		
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			of training and coming back
		
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			and being overseen
		
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			before you can become a scuba diver and
		
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			deep sea diver,
		
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			and go to try to get something,
		
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			that that necklace from the Titanic, right, that
		
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			went to the bottom of the ocean. Yeah.
		
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			So for all of these things, there has
		
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			to be stages of expertise. But we can
		
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			we all get a chance to go in
		
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			the water. We all get a chance to
		
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			experience it. So that's interesting you say that
		
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			because, like,
		
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			when I think of the,
		
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			different people having different human capacities. Right? So
		
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			let's say a student of tafsir, a rudimentary
		
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			student of tafsir, someone who's learning tafsir from
		
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			someone more learned, right, in the in the
		
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			form of lecture,
		
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			class, reading, whatever it may be. Read something
		
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			fairly accurate about a a story in the
		
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			Quran. Right?
		
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			Now let's just hypothesize that. Let's say this
		
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			this this reader happens to be a student
		
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			of literature, a student of storytelling, a student
		
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			of,
		
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			you know, the genre of storytelling.
		
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			And they've studied its different forms, styles, effects,
		
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			its history, etcetera. They they they have this
		
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			eye
		
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			for what's happening in the way a story
		
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			is being told because this is this is
		
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			what they breathe
		
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			every day. Right? So when they're reading the
		
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			story in the Quran,
		
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			they may
		
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			observe things that a Mufasir who was not
		
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			thinking about it along those lines.
		
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			They may make observations that are very powerful
		
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			in the form of tadabur.
		
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			Yeah. Yeah. You know? Similarly, if
		
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			I I've actually had this experience I was
		
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			talking about and we were talking about
		
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			Surat Yusuf and what Yusuf alaihi salaam was
		
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			going through. And there are people that are
		
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			in the field of child development, child psychology,
		
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			you know,
		
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			parenting,
		
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			counseling,
		
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			and they've done quite a bit of research
		
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			work in this space, and they work with
		
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			children. And
		
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			they're seeing something in the text
		
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			come to life that that speaks to their
		
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			lived experience, kinda like,
		
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			kind of. Right?
		
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			That,
		
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			that the exercise of tafsir facilitated.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			Right? Understanding the basic meaning Yeah. And being
		
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			comfortable in what the ayah basically means allowed
		
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			them to see
		
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			shades of meaning and how those connect
		
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			to things in the in the real world.
		
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			In their world. In in, yeah, in the
		
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			real world. And it
		
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			and in that sense, the world of Tadabpur
		
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			is actually really fascinating because a historian might
		
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			see what a
		
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			what a botanist will not, and a psychologist
		
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			will see what a sociologist will not, and
		
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			a, you know,
		
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			a a a a legal scholar will see
		
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			something that Yeah. You know? So it's it's
		
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			really fascinating
		
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			what the world of Tadabu can open up.
		
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			Yeah. You know, and that's that's one thing
		
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			that I think we should
		
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			we should create the room for Tadabur by
		
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			way of facilitating tafsir.
		
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			Like, tafsir needs to be made accessible.
		
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			So at a base level,
		
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			people get what the Quran is talking about,
		
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			and then
		
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			the discussions guided discussions on Tadabur or facilitating
		
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			Tadabur needs to be it's it's weighs in.
		
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			You know? That's what Yeah. And I think
		
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			that's just talking about through the the context
		
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			of lenses that we can look
		
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			lenses
		
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			that an ordinary believer can apply. Yeah.
		
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			Or even someone who's not a believer can
		
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			still
		
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			contemplate the Quran,
		
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			You know, in what way? So that's why
		
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			those people, the hypocrites and Sona Bitton Affiliates
		
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			at the Barun al Quran,
		
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			this is not the same. Why don't they
		
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			have a spiritual experience? Why don't they
		
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			examine it carefully and they will discover
		
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			the reality of this Quran? Right. That that's
		
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			the way in for them.
		
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			And then those who are already believers, what
		
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			is there to dabboor, you know? I remember
		
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			what I for Ayati. First read that ayatul
		
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			Muhammad, I thought, you know,
		
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			so much of the Quran's already been revealed.
		
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			And the Munafiqul are asking questions that clearly
		
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			indicate that you haven't ever given real thought
		
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			to what's been revealed all this time, that
		
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			these are the kinds of questions that are
		
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			coming out of your mouth. Mhmm.
		
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			You know?
		
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			Like, you're so lost in yourself and your
		
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			own locks that this is this this is
		
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			your state. Or,
		
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			you know,
		
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			Yeah. All this time. Don't they get it?
		
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			Don't they get it? Has the message not
		
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			quite clicked yet for them? So, I mean,
		
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			some of these books I would say
		
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			are like, you know, oh, you know this,
		
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			author. Right?
		
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			Yes.
		
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			So
		
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			the book and the believer
		
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			or we've got, that's by doctor Asar Ahmed,
		
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			and then we've got,
		
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			Usas Khurram Murad's book, Way to the Quran.
		
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			I mean, this is talking about, you know,
		
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			the connection
		
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			as a believer,
		
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			an imani approach or what we call the
		
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			iman filter.
		
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			That means that therefore your lenses are going
		
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			to be beneficial to you. Yeah. When you
		
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			come to the Quran, that's important to have
		
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			the right attitude. Very similar to what El
		
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			Sahih does. And then,
		
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			Alama El Sahih in this book and then
		
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			Subhani, we saw some of his works. He's
		
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			got something to the Abu Quran.
		
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			In the Arab world, also, we've got,
		
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			some books on the kind of the theory
		
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			and the idea behind Tabur. So this is
		
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			this is quite a nice one.
		
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			Oh. So it's a lot going on here,
		
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			but it's it's a fairly short book, but
		
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			quite nice
		
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			examination of the ayat to mention these various
		
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			terms.
		
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			And this organization, which is called Tadabur,
		
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			have got numerous publications, but sometimes it's like
		
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			they gathered things from, kind of,
		
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			online forums and and put them together
		
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			as, you know, majalis in Tadabour. Mhmm. This
		
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			is also,
		
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			from them,
		
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			but in connection with the,
		
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			in connection also with the Moroccan
		
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			somehow.
		
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			I'm trying to see how it was.
		
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			But in any case, this one
		
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			is like a whole conference about,
		
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			Tadabpur.
		
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			I don't know how many they've had now.
		
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			But they've go to one of these. Yeah.
		
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			I told them to go to hang out
		
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			at one of these conferences. So I don't
		
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			know how spiritual it was. It'll be it'll
		
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			be, you know, academic papers. But
		
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			Oh, so you're talking about Tadabour. It's gotta
		
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			be somewhat spiritual. There's our,
		
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			friend Yeah. Who says doctor Abdul Haman Sheri.
		
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			He's got a paper in this one.
		
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			So, you know, this is academic work around
		
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			Tadabour, which again should inform, you know,
		
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			how we understand things. And this is
		
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			the,
		
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			sort of higher studies curriculum
		
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			in Saudi Arabia,
		
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			This is a book by,
		
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			an Egyptian scholar
		
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			who recently followed me on Twitter. I know
		
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			that's not interesting. It was interesting to me
		
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			because It was very interesting. I just saw,
		
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			like, so and so has followed you. I
		
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			was like, I know what that name. Hold
		
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			on.
		
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			Yes. He's the same one who's written this
		
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			book, this 2 volume book about Tadabur
		
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			Fatum Minar Rahim Al Rahman.
		
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			Quite a lot of effort in the Raymond
		
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			title there, but Yes. It's a good one.
		
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			Quran
		
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			of,
		
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			Farid al Ansari.
		
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			Won't say much about it, but a very
		
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			fascinating scholar.
		
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			And this one is probably worth a look.
		
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			Have you seen this?
		
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			I have actually seen that. This is a
		
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			sort of large, version of it. Yeah. I
		
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			haven't seen a large version. So in this
		
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			book, it's kind of,
		
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			giving little snippets that are are to help
		
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			you
		
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			find some nice quotes from,
		
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			Ulema.
		
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			There's at the Burats, really. Yeah. Which which
		
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			helps you to think about things and then
		
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			it asks you questions and write, you know.
		
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			Very nice.
		
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			So
		
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			it's good to have tools that, that prompt
		
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			you to actually think about something in a
		
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			bit of a sense. Yeah.
		
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			This is a book written,
		
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			by
		
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			a couple of
		
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			scholars who are also heavy users of QuranReflect.com,
		
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			which I'm connected with.
		
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			So this is their
		
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			meditation is a sort, Yousef. You know, we're
		
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			still in the process of writing up our
		
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			content to God as well. Yeah. But you
		
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			can see also they they then they turned
		
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			that into a book, and it's been printed
		
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			as a book
		
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			because people like sometimes to have,
		
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			have it in in printed form.
		
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			And, actually, doctor Mohammed Abu Musa has a
		
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			book on the
		
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			just Hadith Yusuf Musa? Hadith as in their
		
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			Speech. Speech, yeah, of Yusuf and Musa.
		
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			So, obviously,
		
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			it's got a lot of assortative to Yusuf
		
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			and,
		
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			you know, what what you get from the,
		
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			you know, the balakha of the speech of
		
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			the of the individuals in the story. Very
		
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			nice. Particularly of Yousef alaihis salam. So I
		
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			mean, there's no end to I mean, this
		
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			whole library that we've been going through
		
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			is to the Quran, isn't it? In a
		
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			sense, yes. It's investigating.
		
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			It is pondering.
		
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			It is trying to go deeper.
		
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			Looking at the micro level of an individual
		
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			word
		
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			or the macro level like this pile here,
		
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			which is the last pile inshallah
		
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			that we'll talk through,
		
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			which is about, you know, introductions to the
		
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			Surahs.
		
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			So we've got some things in Arabic.
		
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			My friend Yassine was just telling me this
		
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			is a best selling book in the Arab
		
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			world.
		
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			It's a funny title to me, Awul Maruat
		
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			Adibir Quran, but it's got little sort of
		
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			mind maps for,
		
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			you know, the the main contents of of
		
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			each Surah. And that, I think, to be
		
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			honest, is is a starting point that everyone
		
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			should have access to, And I and I
		
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			feel sad that
		
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			many
		
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			people who believe in the Quran and love
		
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			the Quran
		
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			just haven't found an easy resource that just
		
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			opens that up for them. You know? And
		
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			I think that's very important. It's very interesting.
		
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			Your little
		
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			insights into the Surah here. So,
		
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			my friend, Abu Bakr, who runs the Quran
		
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			Wiki
		
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			website, they turned that website into a book,
		
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			which, you know, it still exists as a
		
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			website. But they've they've tried to show, you
		
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			know, basic information about each Surah
		
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			with some graphs of, you know I don't
		
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			know what the graphs are here. The occurrence
		
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			of certain words,
		
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			word count per ayah.
		
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			Yeah. Interesting things which give you a brief
		
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			glimpse.
		
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			And that's, you know, that's one route into,
		
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			you know, appreciating the Surah.
		
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			And, again, our friend,
		
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			Sharif
		
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			Hassan al Banda Mhmm. Has got this kind
		
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			of, again, summary and mind map of the
		
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			structure of each Surah.
		
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			So there's room for more things like this,
		
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			really, which help you to
		
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			navigate and get a brief idea of what
		
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			is talked about in each Surah. And not
		
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			just in Ramadan. You know, Ramadan is when
		
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			we We get in Quran mode. We feel
		
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			motivated to do that. Yeah. I fully,
		
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			understand and appreciate and respect that. That's fine.
		
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			But,
		
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			you know, I'd love that we we develop
		
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			a culture whereby we've got 11 months of
		
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			preparation,
		
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			one month of, you know, the devotion,
		
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			I like it to cover in the Quran
		
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			in 1
		
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			in 1 month, you know. It's gonna be
		
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			read throughout this month. It's gonna be covered
		
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			in the Tarawih prayers.
		
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			You know, what do you do each year
		
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			to get ready? And then people will be
		
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			like, I wanna understand, I wanna know the
		
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			the language of the Quran. Well, that's something
		
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			you can do in the 11 months, you
		
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			know. And then each time we get to
		
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			Ramadan,
		
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			we've got a fresh you know, we've reached
		
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			another level of how we're able to appreciate
		
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			the Quran that we're reading or that we're
		
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			hearing.
		
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			So
		
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			any final reflections on our
		
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			journey through the Quranic studies library?
		
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			There's just there's too many things to
		
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			realize we haven't given enough attention to.
		
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			Yeah. Me too. What's what's daunting, you I'm
		
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			sure for even you as you've gone through
		
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			your library over again is, oh my god.
		
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			I need to give that more time. Wow.
		
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			Oh, that needs more time for me. Oh,
		
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			this needs to I need to pull time
		
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			out. And
		
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			I think instead of being overwhelmed, we need
		
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			to discipline ourselves into,
		
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			you know,
		
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			droplets of progress.
		
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			You know what? Okay. You know someone like
		
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			me needs
		
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			his students to come to the door and
		
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			say, I want to read that book with
		
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			you.
		
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			So they read it. They read it to
		
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			me. They discuss it with me. That's my
		
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			motivation taken care of. Yeah. Yeah.
		
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			So I think that's this is the environment
		
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			that I'm hoping to create.
		
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			Even my motivation for
		
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			teaching the Arabic,
		
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			dream program,
		
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			was to actually get students eventually to a
		
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			point where
		
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			an overwhelming,
		
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			you know, number of resources like this cannot
		
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			be
		
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			really extracted by a single group or a
		
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			single person.
		
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			It needs to be kind of a collective
		
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			effort.
		
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			And,
		
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			we have to raise the bar on this
		
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			and create circles like that. Right? So there's,
		
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			of course, there's the there's the halakas for
		
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			the youth and there's the khutbas and there's
		
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			the, you know, basic lectures and things like
		
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			that. But
		
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			a culture of Tadaabur really needs to be
		
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			fostered.
		
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			And we've got we've got some books in
		
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			English. We can do things with those books.
		
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			Yeah. But you see the the amount of,
		
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			you know, the
		
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			how much more expansive Quranic studies is in
		
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			Arabic.
		
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			It shouldn't surprise anyone, but maybe it has.
		
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			So when people sometimes are saying, oh, I
		
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			want to study, with you. I want to
		
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			study Quranic science. They'll say, study Arabic.
		
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			Yep. Right? And people don't like that answer.
		
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			As a focus on your Arabic,
		
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			master the Arabic as much as you can.
		
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			If there's
		
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			if some if somebody takes kind of a
		
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			motivation
		
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			away from this, like, I wanna be able
		
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			to access these treasures. Right?
		
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			Then just take a year and just drop
		
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			everything and just focus. Like, I'm not saying
		
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			drop your job and family.
		
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			Keep that stuff, but take your spare time
		
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			and just say, you know what? I'm gonna
		
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			get somewhere with my Arabic.
		
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			And you can.
		
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			You absolutely can.
		
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			And, you know, you can't the the mentality
		
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			that
		
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			someone has to tell me where to go.
		
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			Someone has to tell me what to do.
		
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			This is not what you do when you're,
		
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			when there's a real need, you become ingenuity
		
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			and you you come up with creative ways
		
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			to getting to your target. Right?
		
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			And people do that for work. People do
		
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			that for school. People do that with everything
		
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			else. But when it comes to RD, no.
		
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			Just tell me what should I do next.
		
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			I don't know what to do. And And
		
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			then they don't wanna do that. And then
		
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			I don't wanna die. Then I don't wanna
		
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			do that. So there's this, like, almost spoiled
		
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			child syndrome that has now
		
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			been
		
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			Sorry. It's true. It it is.
		
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			And I'm not saying that for the general
		
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			public, but I'm saying for those who say,
		
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			look, I'm motivated. I wanna learn.
		
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			They've we've created a culture of spoon feeding.
		
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			And
		
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			I'm not a product of spoon feeding.
		
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			I'm a product of I I really wanna
		
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			learn this. I I don't know what you
		
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			learn. So I could just say, I don't
		
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			have anyone to learn from.
		
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			Or you could just get up and say,
		
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			okay. I'm gonna learn one thing at least.
		
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			Somebody just there's this book right here. I'm
		
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			gonna try to learn it. I don't can't
		
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			read the first page, so I'm gonna go
		
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			find someone to read the first page with.
		
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			Mhmm. Take a step.
		
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			And, like, when when
		
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			if we do that, then you'd be surprised
		
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			how Allah keeps opening doors. Right? Like,
		
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			where you end up, you wouldn't even imagine
		
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			that that's where you would have been. And
		
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			so I think that that that motivation to
		
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			come
		
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			closer to Allah by way of connecting to
		
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			his word deeper and deeper and to be
		
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			able
		
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			to benefit from all these remarkable souls that
		
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			have done such
		
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			amazing service to Allah's book, it would be
		
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			a disservice to them
		
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			that we're not
		
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			taking advantage of the treasure they left behind.
		
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			You know? And and in in just about
		
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			all of these fields, you know,
		
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			as as cocky or arrogant and out of
		
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			place as it sounds,
		
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			you know, I look at it and I
		
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			think, well, that's amazing. I can see what
		
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			the next step of this might be. Yeah.
		
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			Right? Not because I'm able to do that
		
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			next step Yeah. But just that I can
		
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			see that there's growth potential Yes. All of
		
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			these studies. And so we wanna see that
		
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			happen. In order for that to happen, we
		
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			need people to, you know, absorb what has
		
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			been done. Otherwise, we'll just stay at the
		
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			same level.
		
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			Those of you who read Arabic, another
		
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			easy to read,
		
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			fascinating book.
		
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			It is a bestseller. I think I could
		
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			see why.
		
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			Went through a couple of pages. This is
		
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			pretty nice.
		
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			It's been a fascinating journey, and I think
		
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			this will be a benefit to us first
		
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			and foremost,
		
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			and whoever's viewing.
		
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			We will Sheikh Sahib is not going to
		
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			give you the bibliography
		
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			of each book. And can you make a
		
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			list of these books, please? Or the PDF.
		
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			If he was into PDFs, he wouldn't be
		
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			spending, like, his life savings on
		
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			These are my life savings. Yeah. That you
		
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			know? So,
		
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			and also, I think we should have regard
		
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			for these publishers,
		
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			these authors
		
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			that have put time, money, and resources into
		
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			publishing these materials. And I think it's
		
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			the least we can do is not to
		
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			undermine their work by
		
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			going to find illegal PDFs and whatever whatever
		
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			you can. Sometimes people don't have an alternative,
		
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			and this is the way they can get
		
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			it. But so many times, you know It's
		
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			right there, but this is what's the answer.
		
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			I'd rather and I'll I'm tell just telling
		
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			you just from experience, you're not gonna sit
		
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			through a PDF.
		
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			It's just not gonna happen. You might open
		
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			it once in a while. You're like, is
		
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			there an app that has this?
		
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			Is there Honestly, if I were to think
		
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			about if we were to go through the
		
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			PDFs on my phone, I don't even remember
		
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			what's there. But I see how the library
		
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			I have staring at your intimate relationship with
		
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			with everything Yeah. This library. Yep. Whereas I
		
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			don't even know what is what I've downloaded
		
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			over time.
		
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			It's gone to me. It's dead to me.
		
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			That's just
		
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			So dead trees are the ones that It's
		
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			like people in your contact list that you
		
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			don't even know like who's this?
		
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			Why did I save their number?
		
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			And you call them and they say who
		
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			are you?
		
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			It's like that. It's exactly like that.
		
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			Alright. Okay. So Insha'Allah, I I genuinely pray
		
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			that, all of you that are viewing benefited
		
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			from this journey. I certainly did as exhaustive
		
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			as it was make dua that we are
		
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			able to do some service to the Quran
		
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			before,
		
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			you know, Allah takes the soul
		
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			and is able to become some form of
		
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			sadaqa jariyah for all of us. And just
		
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			please may du'a for this project that we
		
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			have and especially for our dear Sheikh Suhaib
		
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			that Allah preserve him and allow him to
		
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			create a legacy that is truly worth showing
		
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			to Allah
		
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			on judgment day. You Allah, I didn't do
		
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			much but look at this legacy.
		
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			There's a lot of commission that should come
		
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			our way,
		
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			So I pray all of us, are forgiven
		
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			and are able to be rewarded for
		
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			yeah. So are are able to be rewarded
		
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			for the efforts that we're trying to make.
		
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			Allah accept your efforts and make your journey
		
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			into the Quran easy to. Assalamu alaykum, Assalamu
		
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