Nouman Ali Khan – Answering Interesting Questions – Part 5

			Another interesting question, I thought it was really, really cool question is regarding iron number
46 of sorts of hedge in which Allah subhanaw taala revealed. And I'm reading the translation as this
person wrote it. So have they not traveled through the earth and have hearts by which to reason and
ears with which to hear for Indeed, it is not eyes that are blind, not Dharma absorbed, you know,
but blinded are the hearts what I can tell Hulu and Latif Salut, which are in the * in the
chest. As per science, we know that reasoning is done via the brain and not the heart. Can you
elaborate why Allah utilize the word heart instead of brain and this is, there are many other ions
		

			that are clearly what you can call unscientific. Right? And it seems like one of those clear cut is
realizing that they have hearts with which they cannot think or they can't reason. You know, why in
the world? would he say that? Because we know the hearts aren't the ones that reason the brains are
the ones that reason. Some have tried to explain this away by saying, well, when he says hearts, he
really means brains. I don't believe that I do believe that allows origin means what he says. And
he's the most eloquent of all speakers, he's the one who taught language to all human beings to
begin with. So when he uses the word, he uses it, knowing full well its implications. And if you
		

			want it to say brain, he would have said brain but he did say heart. The first thing to note here is
that we are, you know, so impressed with science, and that's okay. In our day and age, we are living
in a scientific era. But that doesn't mean that all human language and all speech is reduced to
scientific speech, when your loved one comes and tells you, you know, when when a grandfather comes
and tells you, my grandkids have stolen my heart. That doesn't mean they ripped his chest open and
took his heart and ran off. You know, our man, that guy is so hard hearted. His heart is like a
rock. You know, he, when they say that, they don't really mean that if you do an EKG or you, you
		

			open up this guy's chest, you're gonna find a rock in there, it's still gonna be a squishy heart.
When somebody says, You broke my heart, nobody physically broke your heart. This is these are
expressions of language. Right, and particularly about the heart, there are expressions found in
virtually every culture in the world. And so when allows them, it just says they have hearts, and
they don't think with them. Allies highlighting a very powerful, beautiful spiritual reality. And
the language of spirituality cannot be captured within the language of science, these are two
different things, you know, the image and the faith in Allah, that, you know, is a gift given by
		

			Allah rests inside the heart. And when you look at the world with that, imagine what you see is
different. When you look at a tree with the man, you are reminded that a seed is turned into a tree,
and it bears fruit, you're reminded that Allah gives the dead Earth life like he will give me life
again, you're reminded that this, this seed of human inside me is supposed to produce, you know,
goodness, like this tree produces goodness, and it produces more seeds, you're reminded that when
you give even a little bit of charity, like a seed of worth of charity, it can turn into a tree, and
it will bear fruit, and every one of those fruits will have multiple seeds. In other words, when you
		

			give charity, a level multiplied and multiplied and multiplied, you're looking at the same tree, but
you're looking at a spiritual reality, not a scientific one, you can look at a tree as an expert in
plant life, and tell me what species it is, how old it is, what kind of climate is best suited for
it, you know that if it's healthy, or it's sick, and things like that, and I won't know any of those
things. You're looking at it scientifically, but you're certainly not looking at it with your heart
allies complaining, you're so able to analyze reality around you scientifically, how are you not
able to look at it spiritually, the same reality also has a spiritual message. And that's why why
		

			don't they reason with their hearts. And that's actually a very beautiful expression of the Quran.
And so manikaran defines what you define is what you would expect to be like scientific expression.
It's not it's just using beautiful language. And it's again, not limited to the Quran, it's found in
virtually every, every literature, every kind of language in the world.
		

			You know, you find these kinds of expressions and the Quran is full of them, even for example, when
you know to be literal, because sign scientific language is very literal, right? It's black and
white. But you know, two people are talking and a friend says, Man, I did everything for you.
		

			Or, you know, a husband says to the wife, I gave you everything. That doesn't mean they gave her
everything. It just means all kinds of things. You can't be literal about everything. That's not how
language works, right? So we bring this kind of reductionist kind of view and a kind of
interpretation to the Quran and it's really a disservice to the book, may Allah protect us from
doing so? That's not to say that the Quran does not have scientific phenomenon. It certainly does.
But the way it speaks of them is very, very powerful and very beautiful.
		

			somebody asks, let's see which one can I take before I let you guys go?
		

			Okay, yeah, how can we summarize and conclude and in your in your in depth analysis that you
conclude that there are two kinds of knowledge in Monterey wire and everyone dariah right, that's
right. What that means in Simple English is, I said, there are two kinds of knowledge there's
knowledge of the text meaning the Quran, Sunnah, the tradition, etc. And there's the
		

			The knowledge of reality around us and the Masonic ever met masala Salaam is someone who has been
given more knowledge of the revelation than anyone else at the time. And he that has more knowledge
of reality than anyone at the time. And so they meet at the two oceans that come together. And that
is actually really, at the end of the day. What guidance is guidance is two kinds of knowledge
coming together, knowledge of this world and knowledge of Revelation, they have to they have to
coexist. You can't have one and not the other. That's what the Quran forces us to do. You can't just
study the Quran sitting in a library your entire life, or sitting in a madrasah your entire life,
		

			you can't. When the Quran says you have to go explore the earth, then the only way to live by that
is not steady just at the feet of that iron. But to literally go explore the earth from Lucca, and
go find out how creation began. Do excavation cyclotron is actually asking us to explore the world
around us. And that's actually the only way you truly appreciate what a lie saying. You know, I met
somebody who said, You know, I study Quran maybe 12 hours a day. And I was like, do you go out at
all? No. Do you ever go to a park or hiking or anything else? And I'm like, Listen, no, no, I'm just
too busy studying Quran only when the Quran tells you or when I'm yellow with a tiny phone saw
		

			Fatima jacobina. You know, when Didn't they look at the bird above them flying? That it spreads its
wings and it contracts them? How are you living by that? If you don't go check out some birds. You
know? How are you not? So those two worlds of knowledge do have to come together. Ramadan is a time
where we reconnect ourselves with the word of Allah, that ultimate require right that inshallah we
memorize more Quran than we ever have. We think about Miranda we ever have. But of course, it's
pointless if you don't ponder over this book, and then it changes the way you see the reality around
you. It's still those two things have to coexist. And one last comment before I let you guys go,
		

			inshallah. And I hope I get more chances to speak with you and, you know, take more of your
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			is that, you know, the revelation is called iaat. And creation, all of creation, Allah says they are
not in them. Like most of the time of lessons there is in creation. And these revelations, the ayat
of the Quran, also called if miraculous signs are all around us, or lie within all of creation. And
miraculous signs are what Allah revealed to us, I'll use the same term for both of them, because
they correspond with each other, they complete each other. For us, that the seed of one eye is the
other, you looked at something in reality, you experience something. And then you heard the word of
Allah and you realize how Allah allows commentary on that reality is the most perfect, you read the
		

			Word of Allah, and you you learn something about what Allah says about his creation. And then you go
out and you experience that creation, and it confirms the word of Allah, they both confirm each
other, they both confirm each other. And that's why we have to live in both of these worlds. There
are people who are just lost and they've completely left revelation behind. And then on the other
hand, you have people that have
		

			you know, that are engrossed in the study of Revelation, and they've left any any pondering over the
world behind, and that that's just a disservice. Those two worlds do need to coexist. And that's why
correctly pointed out it's interesting that masayoshi son when he met he met him at the meeting of
mathematics behind the place where the two C's meet, like the two knowledges are meeting in the
ironically the place also where they were supposed to meet or where the two seas meet, because these
are two endless oceans of exploration a large increases in our understanding our appreciation of his
word, and I pray that your Ramadan is a very very successful one inshallah with Allah get into gear
		

			from now and prepare yourselves be in the know and let's try to make this Ramadan one of moderation
let's let's do things in balance so we can keep up don't go hype in the beginning and then burn out
in a couple of days. And also don't overeat this Ramadan. Let's keep a light appetite in Sharla so
we can actually get through the whole thing successfully. Does that come alongside in some article
Abdullah, speak to you guys again.