Naima B. Robert – What Do You See Happening With The Concept Of Femininity

Naima B. Robert
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The speaker discusses how women are viewed as "fitfits" and "fitness" in the context of femininity. They explain that women have limitations in looking at sex and consider their "fitness" and "fitness" as their own ideal. The speaker also talks about her work with men, including her homophobic culture and desire for sexless women. She discusses her own work, where she is opening up her own work in talking to men more when she starts on social media, dressing up in a sexy garment, and experiencing "fitness" and "fitness."

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			What what are you seeing happening
with the concepts of femininity
		
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			and sexuality right now? You know,
it's interesting because on social
		
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			media, I watch YouTube a lot. I'm
a YouTuber, like, I don't have a
		
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			YouTube channel, but I would
rather watch YouTube than regular
		
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			television or cable, because it
sort of keeps you abreast of
		
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			what's happening. And I've noticed
over the last sort of 18 months,
		
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			femininity coaches, femininity,
mindset healers, and they all sort
		
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			of look alike. And they all have
the same conversation. It's, it's
		
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			appealing to an ideal of beauty
and femininity that definitely is
		
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			derived from a white European
image.
		
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			And, you know, if you're a white
European, that's great. But what
		
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			about the rest of us? And most of
the women that I've come across
		
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			that have been teaching femininity
from this standpoint, are women of
		
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			color. They're black woman,
they're young, one thing, isn't
		
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			it? Yes. They're promoting a form
of performative femininity that
		
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			says you have to speak softly, you
have to sit on the edge of your
		
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			chair, you have to wear high
heels, you have to wear lipstick,
		
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			your nails have to be a certain
way. And that's great, but it's
		
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			very surface level and it also
does not account for the nuanced
		
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			ways in which femininity shows up
in global cultures. Right? So
		
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			femininity is okay, it is a pair
of five inch so Kate's Louboutin
		
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			shoes right. It is like eyelashes
out here, but it's also, you know,
		
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			you know, for some women and
that's for you. Okay, fine. But
		
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			femininity is also a black Bisht,
a buyer and a niqab. Right? It's
		
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			also hinted hands and feet. It is
a swish of a buzzing gram booboo,
		
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			as you're walking through the
marketplace, where does it account
		
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			for all of the expressions of
femininity that our grandmothers
		
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			that are for mothers had? But I
think, you know, when when you
		
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			couple that with the conversation
around sexuality, it means that
		
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			women are always performing to
fulfill a role 100% Yeah, like
		
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			what can I do to show you how well
I can cook how beautiful I am, you
		
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			know, how soft I can be how
supportive I can be so that you
		
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			can choose me so that you can make
me your wife's lives and I can
		
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			please you everything is outward,
its output, very little of it,
		
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			from what I've seen, has been
focused on internal development
		
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			and self reflection. So then when
you have this idea of femininity
		
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			as being something that you are
rewarding someone else with your
		
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			presence, when it comes to
sexuality, then you just become a
		
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			receptacle for someone else's
pleasure. Right? You're not an
		
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			active participant in it. So it
limits us in terms of the way that
		
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			we look at sexuality because then
you know, we shift into these
		
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			extremes of your body has to look
a certain way in order to be sexy.
		
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			Your your, your hip to waist ratio
has to be so you have people who
		
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			literally have comical figures,
like they literally look like they
		
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			come out of like a comic book with
Photoshop and filters and they're
		
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			manipulating their bodies to look
a certain way Body Dysmorphia has
		
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			never been, you know, so rampant.
And all of that is linked into our
		
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			limitations when we talk about
femininity and sexuality. So I
		
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			think for women, the conversation
has to start in the home. And even
		
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			in the masjid, right, the Masjid
by my house. We have been godly
		
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			sisters. We have Sudanese Sisters,
we have Somali sisters, I think
		
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			I'm one of the only African
Americans and each, each group has
		
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			different models of what
femininity looks like. Each group,
		
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			they are sexy in their own ways,
right? Because you got a sister's
		
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			parties and you see Sisters, we
need, we know. Right? We know what
		
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			lies beneath.
		
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			So we I think I think we owe
ourselves as women and also to our
		
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			daughters, and our granddaughters
and our nieces and our cousins and
		
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			our little sisters, we owe them a
more multifaceted approach to
		
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			femininity, and then inshallah
that will seep into our
		
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			conversations about sexuality
because we are limiting ourselves
		
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			as Muslims. And we come from a
very expansive tradition in both
		
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			regards, right. Subhanallah you
know, as you're saying this, I'm
		
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			thinking of some of the other
conversations that we've had
		
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			already in this this kind of
intimacy area. And one of the
		
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			things that keeps coming up in
every conversation is *. And I
		
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			can't help wondering how much of
our own idea of what is sexy, as
		
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			you said, is is from the movies is
from music videos, is from you
		
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			know, is from *. And even when
you said performative femininity,
		
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			I'm thinking of the performative
sexiness that we feel. In order to
		
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			be sexy, I must dress a particular
way I must talk a particular way.
		
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			I must act in a particular way.
And this is a no shade to those of
		
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			you who if that's your thing,
		
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			if that's your thing, you know why
this is a no judgment zone? But
		
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			what about those sisters who feel
that that doesn't? It's not who
		
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			they are. But they feel they need
to perform that in order to be
		
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			sexy? I mean, can you be sexy
without garters? And of course, it
		
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			absolutely,
		
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			absolutely can be sexy. In fact,
you know, my work is expanding
		
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			now, where I'm opening up my
myself and my expertise to talking
		
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			to men more when I first started
on social media. I started in this
		
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			work in 1998. And I've always
worked with men and community but
		
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			on social media, it can be a mixed
bag, right? So I had to really
		
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			establish a firm boundary when
talking about * and sexuality
		
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			because I didn't want to sexualize
myself, I did not want to become
		
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			the object of someone's misplaced
attraction.
		
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			But now that I've opened myself up
in talking with men, you will
		
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			really be surprised at what men
find sexy versus what society
		
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			tells us that men find sexy look
at that talk to a girl. What are
		
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			they telling?
		
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			Me? Well, I have
		
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			a nephew, I haven't met a few.
He's married.
		
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			He is of West African origin. And
I, you know, in the summertime, I
		
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			usually wear my alpha tobe, you
know, it's a very loose, flowing,
		
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			all covering, like, everything's
covered. And he was talking about
		
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			how the men from his culture find
that such a sexy garment. And I
		
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			was like, talk to me about this,
like talking about it. He said, he
		
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			said it. And another another of my
nieces, you know, these are my
		
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			village nieces and nephews. She
said that an artist came to do a
		
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			workshop one day, and he said,
When you shroud a thing, you feel
		
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			its beauty.
		
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			So when you cover something, you
reveal the essence of its beauty.
		
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			And this is this is what my nephew
was saying. He said, There's
		
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			something beautiful about a woman
who can wear a garment like that.
		
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			And it exudes the confidence and
the sexiness that comes from
		
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			inside. Because to be a sexy
person is not the garter belts and
		
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			the high heeled shoes and the
lingerie and the push up bras. It
		
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			is exuding a seductive confidence.
It's a level of comportment, and
		
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			that comes across when you're
wearing you can be wearing
		
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			anything, you can be fully
covered. And that will come out I
		
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			think as Muslims, we're afraid of
that, though. Because we have this
		
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			idea of modesty and modesty is
like no, I can't arouse
		
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			attraction. We're not talking
about intentionally trying to
		
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			attract someone we're talking
about. Are you confident and
		
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			comfortable in who you are? And
does that radiate outward? Right?
		
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			Does that really outwardly, even
to your partner? Right? You have
		
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			women who feel as if Well, I dress
you know, fully covered outside.
		
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			So when I come home, I have to
wear the most risky thing
		
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			possible, and they're
uncomfortable with their bodies,
		
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			and that shows with their spouse,
so they don't really come across
		
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			as sexy as they think they are.
Rather, you know, it's like you're
		
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			walking around and this gear, you
know, you just like Cardi B says
		
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			and it's not, it's not working for
you. Right? So math is not mapping
		
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			on that, right?
		
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			It's true. I have friends who are
like, I just don't feel sexy. And
		
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			I said, well wear something that
feels good on your body feels
		
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			good. Look, look at look at
cultures around the world. Look at
		
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			women that you find striking and
beautiful. What are they wearing?
		
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			You know, what is it about their
comportment, their level of grace,
		
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			their presence? That is drawing
you in? That is true sexiness.
		
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			What we have now is we have this
theatrical version of sexy because
		
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			* is theater. Let's just be
totally honest. It's scripted.
		
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			Yeah, it's completely. It's
completely false. It's not true.
		
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			No one has * like they have *
and *. No one No one behaves
		
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			like they do in *. It's a form
of entertainment. Our lives,
		
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			however, are a true lived
experience. So we really need to
		
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			learn how to embody sexiness from
a Muslim perspective, but also
		
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			from a holistic perspective.