Naima B. Robert – Episode 2 Finding The Balance Can you be Humble and Confident

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The speakers discuss the qualities of Islam, including humility, confidence, and the importance of knowledge and honor. They stress the need for learning and submission to the will of Islam, as it is the final destination for women. The challenges of women wearing the deen and pressure of society are discussed, along with the importance of finding spaces where women can validate and celebrate themselves. The speakers stress the need for flexibility and dressing oneself in public, and suggest balancing confidence and relevance in roles. The speakers also emphasize the importance of not blending pride and weakness into behavior and instead focusing on finding ways to express oneself.

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			Welcome back to our brand new series
		
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			Finding the Balance,
		
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			Rediscovering
		
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			the Ideal Muslimah.
		
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			Now as you know, in this
		
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			series we are delving into the qualities that
		
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			Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala values in us as
		
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			Muslim women. And if you've been wondering
		
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			what those values might be,
		
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			then this ayah in the Quran
		
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			might give you a clue.
		
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			Indeed,
		
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			the Muslim men and Muslim women,
		
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			the believing men and believing women,
		
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			the obedient men
		
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			and obedient women,
		
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			the truthful men and truthful women,
		
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			the patient men and the patient women,
		
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			The humble men and the humble women.
		
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			The charitable men and the charitable women. The
		
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			fasting men and the fasting women. The men
		
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			who guard their private parts and the women
		
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			who do so, and the men who remember
		
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			Allah
		
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			often and the women who do so. For
		
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			them,
		
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			Allah has prepared
		
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			forgiveness
		
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			and a great reward.
		
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			So we already have an amazing framework
		
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			for answering that question that is driving this
		
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			series.
		
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			Who is the Muslim woman? What are her
		
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			abiding characteristics?
		
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			So in today's show, we're going to be
		
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			answering the question as to whether you can
		
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			be humble
		
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			and confident at the same time. Let's get
		
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			to it.
		
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			It's interesting to see that humility
		
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			has fallen out of favor in today's world.
		
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			Have you found that
		
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			particularly as women, we are being encouraged all
		
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			the time in society to be brash and
		
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			bold and loud and proud?
		
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			Arrogance has permeated the way that we conduct
		
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			ourselves,
		
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			all of us, from the way we walk,
		
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			talk and how we treat others.
		
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			And really this arrogance that we see in
		
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			society around us is centered around the worship
		
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			of the self,
		
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			The self being the center of everything.
		
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			And that selfishness
		
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			is the antithesis of tawhid.
		
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			Ibn Qayyim has a wonderful
		
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			statement on this where he says that humility
		
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			comes from knowing about Allah
		
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			and his names and attributes and his greatness.
		
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			Venerating him, loving him and being in awe
		
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			of him.
		
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			And also
		
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			from knowing oneself and one's faults
		
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			and weaknesses.
		
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			From that, we may develop the attitude of
		
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			humility,
		
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			which means feeling helpless before Allah and being
		
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			humble
		
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			and compassionate
		
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			towards his slaves
		
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			so that the person does not feel superior
		
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			towards anyone and think that he has any
		
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			rights over anyone else. Rather, he thinks that
		
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			others are better than him and that their
		
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			rights come before his.
		
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			This is a characteristic that Allah gives to
		
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			those whom he loves,
		
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			honors and draws close to him. SubhanAllah
		
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			Aladeem.
		
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			So while humility is something that is degraded
		
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			in today's society, we can see that for
		
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			us as Muslims,
		
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			humility leads to honor in this life
		
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			and the next.
		
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			In essence,
		
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			it's not about you. So
		
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			let's go now to some reminders from the
		
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			hadith where the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam told
		
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			us that charity
		
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			does not diminish wealth and Allah does not
		
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			increase
		
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			a man in anything for his pardoning others
		
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			except in honor.
		
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			And, watch this,
		
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			none humbles himself
		
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			before Allah
		
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			except that Allah raises him.
		
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			So I guess the question is,
		
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			can you ever be too humble?
		
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			Well, the interesting answer to that is yes.
		
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			Because
		
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			while we are encouraged to be humble and
		
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			compassionate,
		
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			there are also times
		
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			there are also times when we need to
		
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			hold our heads up high.
		
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			There is a need for confidence,
		
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			not arrogance.
		
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			And so as we go with
		
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			the turning things on their head,
		
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			let's look at what people often consider the
		
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			opposite of humility and that is confidence.
		
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			Now,
		
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			let's be clear.
		
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			The world is not ready for confident Muslim
		
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			women.
		
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			Today we tend to shy away from living
		
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			according to Islam
		
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			fully,
		
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			openly,
		
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			from defending Islam or even standing out as
		
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			Muslims.
		
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			And this really
		
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			contrasts
		
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			starkly
		
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			with the confidence of the early Muslim women.
		
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			When you delve into the stories from the
		
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			Seerah, as we hope to together, you will
		
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			see the confidence
		
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			that our mothers had as a result of
		
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			the tawhid, as a result of the guidance.
		
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			And subhanAllah,
		
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			one of the things that we have seen
		
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			throughout time is that
		
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			confidence in your Islam
		
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			is the result of knowledge.
		
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			And so
		
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			any one of us wanting to become more
		
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			confident in our Islam, what do we need
		
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			to do? We need to learn more because
		
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			that is the way to get the confidence
		
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			that is praiseworthy.
		
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			So
		
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			so in the Quran, Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala
		
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			says, so to that religion of Allah invite,
		
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			oh Muhammad,
		
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			and remain on a right course as you
		
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			are commanded,
		
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			and I have been commanded to do justice
		
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			amongst you.
		
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			Allah is our lord and your lord.
		
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			For us are our deeds and for you,
		
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			your deeds.
		
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			There is no need for argument between us
		
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			and you. Allah will bring us together and
		
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			to him is the final
		
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			destination.
		
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			SubhanAllah.
		
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			Listen to the strength.
		
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			That confidence
		
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			coupled with the humility. So you are confident
		
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			amongst the people but humble before Allah.
		
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			This is
		
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			the blueprint that we see throughout Islamic history
		
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			and something that we need to revive amongst
		
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			ourselves.
		
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			So I hope that you will enjoy our
		
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			next segment where the sisters and I are
		
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			going to be talking about how the women
		
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			of the Ansar
		
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			responded when the verses of hijab were revealed.
		
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			Be sure to join us then.
		
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			In this segment, I'm going to be chopping
		
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			it up with my 2 sisters,
		
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			Talha and sister Anissa to just dig a
		
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			bit deeper into what we've already covered. So
		
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			we talked about humility. We talked about confidence.
		
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			And you know when I was researching this
		
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			show,
		
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			the the stories that I kept coming up
		
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			in all the
		
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			research was the stories of the early Muslim
		
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			women and how they responded
		
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			when the command of Allah was revealed. Right?
		
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			And so we all know the story of
		
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			when the ayat of hijab were revealed, how
		
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			the women of the Ansar, you know, the
		
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			men went to go and tell their wives
		
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			and their mothers and their sisters, etcetera,
		
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			about what had been revealed, and they immediately
		
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			tore down their curtains Yeah. And just wrapped
		
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			themselves all up so that when they went
		
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			out the next day they were described as,
		
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			you know, they kind of were out in
		
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			the street covered like they had crows on
		
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			their heads, right? And
		
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			what really struck me
		
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			was this sense of firstly,
		
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			just obedience, right, and submission to the will
		
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			of Allah, but also this confidence
		
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			that we know this is the truth
		
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			and that this is the command from our
		
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			Lord and we're good with this. Like, this
		
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			is who we are. What what do you
		
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			think about this this this this issue of
		
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			the confidence of Muslim women? Do you think
		
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			that we've lost some of that?
		
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			I think,
		
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			the confidence that, as a Muslim woman, have,
		
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			it really does stem from inside.
		
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			When you have faith
		
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			in your heart, then you are willing to,
		
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			accept
		
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			what comes with that faith.
		
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			I'm just thinking about my own journey because
		
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			I was raised in a Muslim household, but
		
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			I didn't always wear hijab, you know. It
		
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			was in my teenage years when I, like,
		
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			transformed, you know. And, I started off with
		
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			prayers and, you know, doing my,
		
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			the spiritual things, And then inside, I just
		
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			felt like there needs to be more change,
		
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			you know. So that's when I felt that
		
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			outwardly,
		
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			it needs to match what's happening in inwardly.
		
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			So that's what happened with these ladies, you
		
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			know. They they built their iman inside. And
		
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			when that iman was seated in their heart,
		
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			it didn't matter what they looked like, you
		
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			know, externally. And that's the journey that I
		
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			think many women go through. When they accept
		
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			Islam wholeheartedly,
		
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			then the next thing is, externally, that would
		
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			be reflected.
		
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			Isn't that I I would definitely say that,
		
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			but then what would you say for the
		
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			women who, you know, were in hijab, and
		
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			then the ones who are now taking it
		
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			off, but then when you talk to them
		
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			they will say to you, but I'm now
		
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			close, more closer to Allah now than I
		
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			was. You know, now that I've taken it
		
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			all off, you see? So it's like, I
		
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			think that's a difficult one because we're seeing
		
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			a lot of that. So when you said
		
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			about confidence,
		
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			yes, definitely the confidence is coming from the
		
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			faith, right, your belief. You just want to
		
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			submit. You know that if Allah has told
		
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			you to do something, a bit like an
		
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			obedient child, you know, you have so much
		
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			love for your parents,
		
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			and when your parents tell you to do
		
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			something, you don't go, you know. You just
		
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			say, okay, you know, yes, mom, yes, dad,
		
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			and you're happy to do it. So do
		
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			your kids do that? Because my my my
		
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			no.
		
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			I think it's a generational thing. But Not
		
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			the younger ones. Yes. No. The younger ones,
		
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			masha'Allah, they're still they're still with us. But,
		
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			you know, let's let's let's talk about that
		
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			for a minute because
		
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			obviously we know that within the the ummah
		
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			worldwide,
		
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			you know, sisters are struggling. Since we're talking
		
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			about hijab, we might as well, you know,
		
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			we might as well address that. You know,
		
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			we have seen I think there was a
		
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			time where hijab was quite rare,
		
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			seventies, sixties, seventies into the eighties. And then
		
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			people started learning.
		
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			New generation comes up feeling much more confident
		
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			in
		
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			learning the deen and implementing. Right? So into
		
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			the nineties now, you have more people who
		
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			are actually choosing to wear hijab
		
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			like you who came from families where hijab
		
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			wasn't mandated, it wasn't something they were expected
		
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			to do. Sometimes families were actually against it,
		
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			right? So you had that wave of people
		
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			accepting hijab, embracing hijab and with this confidence,
		
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			Masha'Allah.
		
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			And I think that we're seeing the downturn
		
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			of that Yes. In some ways Yes. Where
		
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			people are is a new generation. Yeah. And
		
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			I think that they don't have the knowledge
		
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			that the previous generation, maybe our generation, had.
		
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			And
		
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			the grounding in the Islamic knowledge, I don't
		
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			think is the same. Yeah. I think nowadays
		
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			people take more of their deen from listening
		
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			and chatting and and and absorbing from the
		
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			environment
		
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			rather than actually studying.
		
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			And and so you see that people's manifestations
		
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			of their deen is different. Mhmm. But then
		
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			also looking at the pressures that is there.
		
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			And the different pressures now. So the pressures
		
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			now, like, with social media and things like
		
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			this is is It's nothing like what we
		
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			have. So then that actually, going back to
		
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			confidence, knocks down people's confidence. Agreed. Because they're
		
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			looking at these women that are so called
		
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			perfect, where they're not, most of them are
		
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			filtered or fake, you know, and they're wanting
		
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			to aspire to be like that. And I
		
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			think that's the sad thing. It is. You
		
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			know? It is. And so the the question
		
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			is,
		
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			we know the pressures.
		
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			As you said, when we were coming up
		
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			in the deen, there was no social media.
		
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			Right? Most of us didn't even take pictures.
		
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			No. You know? And we certainly were not
		
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			interested in trying to look like a non
		
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			Muslim, you know? We had Islam and we
		
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			were happy with Islam.
		
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			Now you've got a situation where, like as
		
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			you said, the pressures from every every angle
		
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			are for women to objectify and beautify themselves
		
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			and to look a certain way.
		
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			How can we
		
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			reclaim
		
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			the confidence
		
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			of the early Muslim women in what Allah,
		
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			subhanahu wa ta'ala, has said? What do you
		
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			think about that? I think it's very important
		
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			that we have spaces where women can actually
		
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			beautify,
		
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			celebrate themselves,
		
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			and, you know, look good,
		
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			but also
		
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			have the education that there are times when
		
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			these, you know, say beauty has to be
		
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			covered, you know? There needs to be outlets
		
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			because
		
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			women by nature, I mean, myself and most
		
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			of my friends, friends, we we like to
		
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			look good. Let's just be honest. We like
		
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			pretty things. We like to, you know, look
		
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			nice.
		
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			There has to be spaces and situation and
		
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			moments where we are able to express that
		
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			feminine side of our being, you know? But
		
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			then, along with that, we have to know
		
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			our boundaries. These are the times where you
		
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			have to cover. And as long as we
		
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			are raising the next generation with that balanced,
		
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			you know, understanding, then they know, okay, this
		
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			is where I can Yeah. Really, you know,
		
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			celebrate my beauty and look good.
		
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			In these times, you know, it's like, not
		
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			most of women have a dress code. When
		
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			they go out partying, it's one type of
		
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			clothing. True. When they go to work Yeah.
		
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			It's official clothing. They have to be mindful
		
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			of how much they cover, how much they
		
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			expose. If they're working in a school, they
		
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			have to be mindful of their dress code.
		
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			So, we have to be clear.
		
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			When we are dressing ourself, you know, there
		
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			is a certain
		
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			dress code at home between your spouses
		
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			when you're going out. And, you know, we're
		
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			not expected to wear this all the time,
		
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			247. Mhmm. You know? But haven't we been
		
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			given the best dress code? Because it's from
		
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			Allah. So we have been taught to beautify
		
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			ourselves in front of our loved ones. So
		
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			He's not oppressing us, you know, subhanAllah.
		
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			And then protecting us from the ugly outside
		
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			world. Yeah. Absolutely. And I think one of
		
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			the thing that we need to be mindful
		
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			for the younger generation is that we actually
		
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			showcase the best of both worlds. So for
		
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			example, when I go to parties, mannies or
		
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			weddings,
		
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			I really make an effort to dress up.
		
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			Even I will get my nieces to do
		
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			my makeup, you know. And when the girls
		
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			they see me, my students, they're like, oh,
		
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			tell her. Is that you? Is that you,
		
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			you know? You look so this And I
		
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			I I do that deliberately so that they
		
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			can see the other side of the bumper.
		
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			And sometimes, you know, they feel really encouraged,
		
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			and they feel a sense of permission that
		
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			it's okay to wear these things. And, I
		
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			think that is a very powerful way of
		
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			showing the young generation that, there's
		
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			a time for this and there's a time
		
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			for that. And it's very important that we
		
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			show the holistic side of our iman,
		
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			our faith, so that
		
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			gives people confidence.
		
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			What I love about that is that it
		
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			really kind of touches on the whole theme
		
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			of the series, right, which is that we
		
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			have been given a balanced way. Right? So,
		
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			yes, Muslim women cover, but as you said,
		
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			when it's, you know, amongst the maharim, etcetera,
		
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			they they they can look as beautiful as
		
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			they want to, mashallah.
		
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			And I think that that's important.
		
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			It's an important thing for people to know,
		
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			for for young girls to know and to
		
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			see. Yes. I agree with you. I agree.
		
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			Okay. So moving, I guess, away slightly from
		
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			the confidence,
		
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			topic,
		
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			I wanna talk about how
		
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			we balance between being humble
		
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			and confident because some people, I remember when
		
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			we were speaking with sisters
		
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			about whether it's their goals or things that
		
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			they want to do,
		
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			there is a lack of confidence there. Even
		
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			with regards to being a mother, being a
		
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			wife, you know, taking on some kind of
		
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			challenge with regards to their, you know, their
		
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			Quran or Arabic, there is this lack of
		
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			confidence there. And when you question them about
		
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			it, they say I want to be humble.
		
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			I want to stay humble.
		
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			So in the minds of the people there
		
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			is a conflict
		
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			between being humble
		
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			and being confident. Because if your confidence is
		
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			like you're arrogant, Yeah. What do you think
		
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			is the is the the way to kind
		
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			of to understand
		
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			how those 2 interplay? You know, I think
		
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			the best example we find is in the,
		
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			story of Yusuf alaihis salam. Mhmm. You know,
		
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			he went through a different journey, and then
		
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			when he was at a point where
		
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			he was sought after,
		
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			you know,
		
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			he
		
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			said to the minister,
		
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			make me in charge of the treasures.
		
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			Mhmm. Why? Because he knew that he's the
		
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			best man for the job, and also he
		
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			has all the, like, credential. Right. So, you
		
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			can see that. He knows his skill set.
		
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			Mhmm. And he knows that he will do
		
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			justice to that Yeah. Role. Yeah. So I
		
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			think here you can see, you know, like
		
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			he's obviously
		
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			a prophet of Allah. Mhmm. But at the
		
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			same time he knows there's a job that
		
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			needs to be done. Mhmm. And who better
		
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			to do it than myself because I will
		
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			give justice to it. Yeah. You know, so,
		
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			sometime I think we have this superficial humility,
		
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			in a way we think we are being
		
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			humble, but actually, we're just, you know, deluded,
		
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			you know. So sometimes Scared sometimes. If there's
		
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			a role, or if there's a skill that
		
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			you have,
		
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			use it
		
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			for the betterment of the Mhmm. People around
		
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			you.
		
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			And, you know, when people are giving you
		
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			compliments and, you know, they are, you know,
		
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			praising you,
		
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			it's a matter of how you're dealing with
		
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			that praise. Just like Abu Bakr as Siddiq,
		
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			you know, when he was praised, he made
		
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			a dua that, you know, Allah forgive me
		
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			for what they don't know. Yeah. So I
		
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			think
		
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			when you are put in a role, you
		
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			know, take it up, but how you respond
		
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			to the praise and excessive, you know, compliments,
		
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			it's a matter where you have to deal
		
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			with, because that's your personal challenge. But,
		
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			to shy away from a role that you're
		
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			best suited to do, if people are pointing
		
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			their fingers at you, like you do it,
		
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			you do it, then surely you're the best
		
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			person for the role. So, in that sense,
		
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			you know, you're not having this arrogance and,
		
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			you know, this pride, but rather you're having
		
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			confidence that Allah has blessed you with certain
		
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			qualities, and therefore take it up. And, part
		
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			of you taking it up is being grateful
		
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			to Allah,
		
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			using your quality to serve Allah,
		
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			and the people around you. That's a big
		
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			one, The gratitude is part of the confidence.
		
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			So what what do you think? I mean,
		
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			I think, you know, with with personality, it
		
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			is like you said, you know, to looking
		
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			at the example of Yousef alaihis salam, having,
		
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			you know, knowing that we have different characteristics,
		
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			right? Sometimes there is a time to be
		
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			humble, and sometimes there is a time to
		
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			be confident, and sometimes there's a time to
		
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			be, you know, quiet, and sometimes loud, and
		
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			you know, we we have to have a
		
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			balance and be able to,
		
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			look at the situations,
		
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			and assert our characteristic whenever we are needed.
		
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			Yeah. Yeah. You know, that's Mhmm. Yeah. What
		
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			I what I always like to say when
		
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			it comes to the especially, like you said,
		
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			when you're being when you've done something really
		
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			well. Right? Like,
		
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			you've you've achieved something major
		
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			and the people come to you with, you
		
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			know, well done, masha'Allah, mabrook, whatever. Yeah. I
		
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			think one of the things that, you know,
		
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			certainly I have found very useful
		
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			is the humility to say that
		
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			this is from Allah.
		
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			You know that it's not about you. You
		
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			didn't achieve this all by yourself. This is
		
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			a nyamah from Allah. You can do all
		
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			the actions, but at the end of the
		
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			day, the outcome is in the hands of
		
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			Allah. So there's no need to have, like
		
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			you said, the false humility,
		
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			pretending like you don't know how to do
		
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			this or you're not that good at that.
		
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			Some some people are amazing at what they
		
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			do by the grace of Allah. Yeah. And
		
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			we shouldn't feel
		
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			sad or bad
		
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			about owning Yes. Our awesomeness.
		
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			I mean, I definitely should just say these
		
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			lines. Like you said, I just say it,
		
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			you know, it's all for Allah, and it's
		
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			all from Allah. Yeah. Kolas. So that's easy,
		
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			you know? Yeah. So if anybody praises you,
		
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			it's for Allah, and it's from Allah. 100%.
		
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			And guys, here there you have it. It
		
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			is for Allah and it is from Allah.
		
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			you. And, now we're gonna go to my
		
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			parting thoughts, let's go.
		
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			Every one of us has a little light
		
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			inside.
		
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			A light that can touch others, inspire them,
		
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			a light that can bring them joy.
		
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			Now in sum, this light is like a
		
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			force of nature. It encompasses 1,000, it transcends
		
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			boundaries, it crosses time.
		
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			In others,
		
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			this light is smaller,
		
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			quieter,
		
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			touching those in its immediate vicinity,
		
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			family, friends.
		
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			This is the light that warms homes,
		
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			soothes scraped knees and builds a teenager's shattered
		
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			confidence.
		
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			In essence, as women we are all light
		
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			bearers.
		
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			We all carry this light inside us Alhamdulillah.
		
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			This ability to love, to cherish, to comfort,
		
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			to soothe, to help, to cheer,
		
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			to inspire,
		
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			to teach,
		
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			to rebuild and heal by the grace of
		
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			Allah.
		
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			Indeed we are nothing but vessels for this
		
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			light.
		
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			So what is the use in trying to
		
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			hide it or extinguish it because of the
		
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			actions of others? Those who don't understand, those
		
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			who will not understand, those who would love
		
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			to see your light go out.
		
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			One day, sooner or later,
		
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			we will all return to Allah
		
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			Wouldn't you rather return to Him with that
		
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			light
		
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			spent in His way,
		
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			having brought ease and comfort and joy to
		
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			those around you rather than die having withheld
		
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			it out of bitterness?
		
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			And the most beautiful thing about it is
		
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			this,
		
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			when you shine your light, sister,
		
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			for the sake of Allah,
		
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			the reward lies with him,
		
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			the one most capable of rewarding his slaves.
		
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			His reward is just.
		
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			His reward is everlasting.
		
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			And His reward is better than anything this
		
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			world has to offer.
		
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			Isn't that worth shining for?
		
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			May Allah make us of those who shine
		
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			our light for His sake alone,
		
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			anticipating
		
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			His everlasting reward,
		
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			ameen.
		
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			I'll see you in the next episode, Insha'Allah.