Nadim Bashir – Kaleemullah #13 – Logical vs Emotional

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			Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah here. brachetto Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim Al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil
Alameen wa Salatu was Salam ala Rasulillah Muhammad wa ala alihi wa sahbihi. Germaine about Welcome
to another segment of Karim Allah where we go through the lessons and reflections from the story of
Musa Huseynov. Now, today Subhan Allah will be going through a segment of sort of Shuara This is
where Mossadegh Assam is being told by Allah subhanho wa Taala go to frown, give him Dawa, and so
forth. And, you know, I really have to be truly honest, that I have read this passage, so many times
in the Quran, whether it's in trowel or on my own individually, but it is for the very first time
		

			that today in just in preparation, in preparing for this talk, and this lecture, I came across
something very interesting that I found in the books of the Pharisee. And, and what the books of the
first year they mentioned is that here when Musala ism goes to fit our own, fit our own tries to
discredit, he tries to find faults, and he tries to make a musalla you some emotional in his
discussion, rather than remaining logical, let me explain this. So you know, when a person talks or
a person is talking to someone higher than them in, in positions of authority, you're talking to
someone who has a higher position who is more authoritative than you. Or let's just say you're
		

			talking to someone who's more older than you. And so in those kinds of situations, when you're
trying to rectify a situation, either there's two aspects, either you're going to try to present
your matter from a logical perspective, or you're going to present it from an emotional perspective.
Now, if you become emotional, in your delivery, or you become emotional in a dialogue, or you become
emotional in a discussion, you have lost that battle, you have lost that discussion. That's why it's
always important that for every daring to that whenever you're talking, you always remain logical
when you're talking to someone and you're trying to fix a situation or you're talking to someone who
		

			has more authority then you you have to always remain logical and you can never become emotional.
Here what we find in the case of Musa is something fair on is Musa is standing on the logical side
fair only standing on the emotional side we're following is going to do is that he's going to
attempt to pull Musa into the direction of being emotional, so that he can lose track of his logical
arguments. Let me give you another example from the Sunnah of the Prophet SAW Salem, when the
Prophet Sam sent the Sahaba to Abyssinia, the Quraysh made many attempts to a towards the end Joshi
to get to make him give up the Muslims. They brought presents one time, one time they came to him
		

			and they said that these Muslims that you are giving, you're giving them refuge in your land, they
are going to cause chaos. They're going to cause fitna in your land and so forth. So they tried to
find different ways to persuade the Joshi to give up the Muslims. And at every single moment that
Natasha will call the Muslims all of them back to court. And he will say that this is what the
Quraysh are saying, what do you have to say for yourself the original saying that you have no
regards for you know such and such and you have Jabiru the yellow line?
		

			Sorry, Jaffa or the yellow line, and he would come and he would say, No, this is not who we are. We
are such that we used to worship idols we used to worship stones and rocks, but because of the
blessing of Islam, now we believe in Allah. And he goes, the story is long, but he explains his
situation. And you know, one thing Subhanallah many of us do not pay attention to in that story is
that never did Jaffa become excited, never D ever become emotionally compromised. He kept his cool
at every single moment. Every single time the Quran would throw an allegation, or present an
allegation towards the Muslims, Java or Python very eloquently, keeping his calm, keeping his
		

			composure, not getting emotionally compromised, he will provide a rebuttal and this is what we find
Subhanallah in the case of Musa alayhis salam to so always remember that if you're ever in a
discussion, like you might be, you might come across a person who does not believe in Allah, you may
come across a person who is an Islamophobe, you might come across a person who is who just simply
hates he has a hateful religion, or who hates you know, who hates Islam and Muslims and so forth. Or
let's say you're in a dialogue where you are talking to someone who has more authority than you and
so forth. And you are telling them to
		

			Do something, remember that there are going to be one of these five things that they're always going
to present. And we find also in the case of Iran, he provided five ways or we see that he made five
different. He tried five different ways of throwing Musa Adi Assam off of his mission and off of his
message, but Subhanallah where we learn from Musashi Assam, is that he never got emotionally
compromised. He never He made sure that he was never pulled by further on in the wrong direction and
make him emotional, but he stayed on course he stayed on the message and Subhanallah we will go
straight through this. It's very beautiful. So please, do stay with me. The very first thing that
		

			fit on he did was he remind him of his blessings. He says alumna Rebecca fina, Walidah wallabies,
the Phenom anomaly Cassini Aren't you the one that you grew up here and we took care of you. You You
are the one who stayed here you're the one who lived here. You're the one who would eat here every
day. You're the one that we took care of you we provided clothes and shelter and so forth. Like did
you forget about all that? So what he's doing is that he's reminding him of the favors the second
thing he did was he reminded him of a crime Nazi fit only smart for own is not going to just say
openly that oh Musa this is what you did for your own is keeping it a mystery because there are
		

			people over there who don't even probably know Musa and there are some who knows because Musa bin
has been away for more than a decade and so you're talking about that fit only saying that well fine
I'll fall at the quality fault again Do you ever you did something Yeah, I remember you remember to
Yeah, you did something and so we're fit on is doing is that he's trying to make Mussolini some
become emotional here because he had a lot of times was that you know when you tell someone
something and they bring up a crime of your past you know what will usually happen to any other
person you become emotional you try to defend yourself you try to give an excuse that yeah, you know
		

			what I did that at that time but I was you know it was this or that you become emotionally
compromised see once again fit on is trying to sway Musa towards the emotional side because he Musa
is smart he's one step ahead of fit on. So what did he say he provides every battle he says fall to
her even and see the beautiful words the word selection here of Masada Islam is just it's amazing
he's saying five to have the word file in the Arabic language implies to do something without even
thinking about it. So because what happened was the Quran says for workers the whole Musa Musa
punched a man now he doesn't realize that how much strength is within one of his punches and not
		

			only that, but how what you know what will be the outcome he does not realize this and not only
that, but he says for us to even see Musa does not even want to expose his secrets either he does
not want to expose the wrong that he did because in this situation what would happen is with many
other people they would go ahead themselves and expose their own flaws. See for the own is trying to
trap Musa Musa is not getting trapped here he flower is saying you did something and Musa is saying
yeah I did something I did it and I was not I was not I was not smart about it fall to her even were
under Mina Bali and I was four amongst those who were who were on the who were misguided in that
		

			situation mean that that situation was such that I was totally misguided. And I did something which
I'm not very proud about. So what we learn from this is that ever if you're put into a situation
where someone is reminding you of your crimes, or someone is reminding you of the wrong that you
have done, they're trying to put you they're trying to make you feel guilty of the things that you
have done there is no need for you as a person to expose the wrong that you have done. You may have
done something wrong in the past let it be there's no need to expose the wrong that you have done.
But see again, then what happens is that further Musa he's gonna let us go he says for for our two
		

			min come landmark if to come for Hubballi Rob be Hawkman which I'll anaemia more sunny. He's telling
him that I ran away because I was afraid of all of you. I was afraid of all of you. Lemme have to
come. But now the fact that I'm here, it shows that I'm not afraid of you anymore. This is Musa has
been very bold. I'm not afraid of you anymore. And then see once again he stays on topic. This is
the key thing is that fear always tried to sway him away. But he remains on the topic. He says yes,
I did. What I did was wrong. But at the same time I ran away because I was afraid now I'm not
afraid. And Allah has given me hikma. Allah has given me wisdom and he has made me a Prophet. Once
		

			again. Musa comes back to the main topic which was what that I have been sent as a messenger to warn
you
		

			This is the smart thing that moves out of Islam. Good. So it's always very important that ever if
you're ever in a situation, do not get emotionally sucked up into that conversation, and you lose
focus of the conversation or the goal of the conversation overall, you know, subhanAllah, this is,
you know, one time it happened to me, to be honest, that one time I was at an open house, there was
a person who asked a question, everyone there knew that this person was asking the question, their
intent is not right. But me as a person, I felt like they you know what, I know the answer, I'm
going to give the answer. And, you know, I gave the answer and so forth, not realizing that this
		

			person, he, you know, he was asking the question in the wrong way, or with the wrong reason, and I
simply just got sucked up into that kind of conversation, or given the answer to that question. So
that's why every person has to be very smart. Whenever you're engaging in a discussion, be vigilant,
be smart, be one step ahead of the game, and to not get sucked up into that kind of situation. So
these are so this is the one thing so first of all, we see that for our own, he remind him of his
blessings, he reminded him of the wrong that he did. Musa he gave a rebuttal for the wrong that he
did. And he's not going to leave him for the fact that he reminds him he says, we're taken Yeah, my
		

			turn. Yes, you did take care of me. You didn't look after me. But as a result, what do you do you
enslave bunny is saw in. So meaning that Musa is telling him that just because you did something
good for me that does not justify the wrong that you are doing. And this is something very important
because a lot of times people who do these kinds of things, who provide favors, they feel like that
they they're justified to do any wrong that they have done, and Subhan Allah so we have to always
remember that if we do any good, it does not give us leeway, it does not give us permission to do
something wrong. On the other hand, when we do something, we do it for Allah sake, I'm not doing it
		

			because I want to have like the authority to do something that is wrong. So even here, we find that
if you hear we find Musa he's holding their own accountable, that just because you did one thing
right does not give you the permission to do 10 things that are wrong. And also we learned from this
to that do not ever take favors from people that are going to remind you of those favors. You rather
stay clear of those kinds of people, there are always going to be people that you will come across
in life, you will do them a favor, and then later on, they will come back to you. And they will say
that yeah, you know what, I helped you here, I helped you there, or just in general, they will keep
		

			on reminding you of every single thing or every single favor they've done for you. Don't ever be
around those kinds of people. It will save you a lot of hassle in your life. This is my honest
recommendation for any for everyone. Do not be around people who are going to always remind you of
the favors that they have done for you. Now next thing now when Musa when Mussolini Sam he gives a
response and he says that this the fact that you did you did you took care of me that still does not
justify the wrong that you're doing. And when for I'll remind him of the crime that or the wrong
that he did. He never got sucked up emotionally into the conversation he remained on course, he
		

			remained logical. Now what was the next trick of Shangela of felon? He tried to discredit the
statement of Musa Musa Musa is some what do you say initially he says I've come from rubble Island
mean. So now he says Call of your own Romero but I mean this fit this rubble element that you're
referring to? Who is it? And this is where the Quran says the Messiah or a sunset Rob was where it
will all the while not being a homer in quantum marketing, it is a Lord of the heavens and the earth
and everything that is between the skies and the earth. And if you seek to be convicted with
		

			or seek to be convicted with certainty, so basically Musa is some is talking about Allah subhana wa
Taala now when he says that this is what Allah is free to own he gives his own answer he says that
all the lemon hola who are allowed to stand on like he's looking at all the people around him in his
court and he's saying that get a load of this like can you believe what this guy is saying? Like
he's saying that this Rob that he where he has come from he is the rock of the skies and the earth
and so forth. Now when for the own said this see Musa he's not going to get emotionally set up again
to situation logical remain on course he again went back to talking about who Allah is. And he says
		

			Rob buco murabaha ecoman are welline He is the Lord of the your father's your ancestors and so forth
now why do you think he said this see you know there's
		

			mana Idris Kandahar we he wrote a book called Mighty for Quran a very beautiful to see in there he
actually the chef he explains that when Finn own he was giving this response when he said to all his
people, that how can this Allah be this the lord of this
		

			Eyes on the earth. What he's trying to say is that the skies in the earth have been existing before
I came. And even after I leave the skies in the earth are going to be existing and yet we never
heard about this Allah. So how is it that this Allah does exist? And what Musa is going to try and
do is that instead of becoming once again, not emotional, logical, he's saying, and he's providing a
logical answer and saying to him, and he's telling everyone that this Rob, that you're trying to
discredit, here's the rub of your fathers and your forefathers. So what musante is trying to do is
that logically and using rationale, he's trying to explain to them that just like you cannot deny
		

			the existence of your ancestors, you cannot deny the existence of your forefathers and so forth. And
the fact that they came into this dunya there were certain events that happened in their life, do
you think that they grew up by themselves? Do you think they came into existence by themselves? No,
for something, something was non existent, for you to come into existence, there was a power behind
that, that made you come into existence, and everything that has happened in your life, from A to Z,
there was someone behind it, just like there was someone behind every single affair of your
ancestors life, your forefathers in their lives and so forth. Likewise, there is someone who's
		

			behind the creation of the skies in the earth. So we're musante somebody's doing is that logically,
logically, he's trying to explain to everyone that how is it that Allah subhanaw taala exists? And
how is it that Allah subhanho wa Taala is the Lord of the skies and the earth? Now, what we learned
from this is that not always, first of all, is fit all and was trying to discredit his statement.
You're always going to find situations where people are going to try to discredit what you're doing.
And they're going to discredit you to such an extent at times, that you're going to have doubt in
your own thoughts. You're going to have doubts in your own theory. That is it true or not, but see,
		

			that's the key thing. moosari son never fell for that trick. He was strong, and he was smart about
it. He says, I'm not gonna fall for this. I have conviction in what I'm presenting. And then he used
certain types of logic to prove the existence of Allah subhanho wa taala. And what we learned from
this is that sometimes when you need to prove when you get into a debate, or a discussion about
Allah subhanho wa taala, sometimes you can use logic and rationale to prove the existence of Allah
subhanho wa taala. There is nothing wrong in doing that. So this is why this is where we learn now
the fourth trick that fit on he used now first time he tried to remind him of the blessings. That
		

			didn't work. Then he tried to remind him of the wrong that he did. He never fell for that either.
Then he tried discredit his claim about Allah being the rub. And that did not work. So now what did
he do? He went to the fourth step, he began to label Masada he Islam. See, this is something that we
find very often is that when people are usually labeled, and how did Musa get labeled? He says the
Quran says that. All in Rasulullah. Common lovey Osita in a common image unknown found began to say
that this prophet that has been sent to you all he's much known, he's lost it. He's gone cuckoo, you
know. And so the thing is that now what he's trying to do is he's trying to label Musa alayhis.
		

			Salaam, the He's lost it, he's an insane person, why would you want to listen to this person? And
see this is the key thing is that whenever you get labeled, usually what happens is that people are
trying to convince others that No, I've not lost it. And once again, that is, again, Finland is
trying to pull Musa into the emotional direction. Musa is smart, not going that direction, remaining
logical, remaining smart. He doesn't fall for these labels, that when he gets called something, he's
going to try to defend himself. He's not saying no, no, no, no, he could have said, no, no, I'm not
a magician. I'm not a magician. I'm okay. I'm absolutely fine and so forth. He never tried to do
		

			that. What did he do? He went again back to talking about Allah subhanho wa taala. He says Rob bull
machete will not really be Who am I being? And what did he do? Just like moose are just like Fiona
saying, I am the ROB moosari Sam says that my Rob is the Rob and the Lord of the East and the West.
He's basically telling you to own that you think that you are the ROB of the skies in the earth and
you are worthy of worship? He's basically saying that I went to Medina and and your jurisdiction did
I even reach Medina in your jurisdiction is only confined to this land and outside this land, you
don't have any authority. So it is as if Musala is some saying that is as if Musa is labeling him
		

			that you are nothing but a fraud. You are you say one thing, but you have no jurisdiction beyond
your area and beyond this area.
		

			Whereas my robi has jurisdiction over the east and the west, he has control over the east and the
west. So this is Musala. He is on once again, not falling for the label that is being attached to
him, but rather sticking to the conversation and talking about this. And then the last trick of fit
own, when nothing worked, and all the people around him, they're starting to listen to Musa you
know, what's the last thing that he did? He says, he says it the hut that Isla Han Li de la Agia
Allah Nicomedia mas Junee. Last last trick in the bag is to threaten him. And he says that if you
are going to continue to do this, that I am going to adjourn, then that commune was June, I'm going
		

			to make you from amongst those people who have who are imprisoned. And some books of Tafseer
mentioned that at that time, you rather die than going into the prison of Finland, because there was
a lot of torture there. So here he's saying he's not saying that I'm going to kill you. He's saying
that I'm going to put you in my prison where you're going to be tortured. And at that time, when
Musa ism knows that here, this is where you know, fit on par, he was very smart. He thought that
he's going to sway Musa and make him emotional and throw him off his game and so forth. And when
nothing worked, he's going to come down to the last resort, which is to threaten him, then that is
		

			when Musa alayhis salam says, What if I have proof of everything that I'm saying. And that is when
for the onset, oh, proof, you have proof. And this is where we're going to stop right here. Because
this is now we're going to the next part of the story where there was a duel between him and the
magician and so forth. But in this story, what we learn is that I've given you many examples of how
people how first of all fit on try to sway Musa how he tried to throw Him off of his, his his game,
how you try to throw him off his objective, how he tried to pull him in the emotional direction, but
Musa being intelligent and smart. He remained on the the logical side, and he just kept on
		

			presenting to things that Allah is Allah, He is behind me. And not only that, but the wrong the good
that you did for me the favors you did for me still that does not justify the wrong that you're
doing with the people have been nice to eat, and you need to free bunnies site and send them with
me. So once again, what we learned from this is always be cognizant, always be intelligent, always
be aware of your surroundings. Do not be oblivious. If you ever get into a dialogue. Remember how
people can say different things, people will probably do different things. Imagine going to someone
and trying to tell them something that is right. How many people today how many people today,
		

			they're trying to do something that is good. Sometimes they're trying to spread peace, they're
trying to they're trying to establish justice and you know what happens? They get labeled too at
times, and they get so much label that then they become the criminals whereas they're the ones who
are the victims. So these kinds of things will always happen, especially when an authority figure
their power, their their doings are being questioned. These are five things that you will find every
tyrannical person, every oppressor that you they will bring up the one these kinds of things. I ask
Allah subhanho wa Taala to be smart about these things. Ask Allah subhanho wa Taala that he makes
		

			us. He makes us smart dairies ask Allah subhanaw taala in all of our affairs we remain logical and
not emotional. Ask Allah subhana wa Taala to give us the to teach us and to give us the ability to
give the our like the power some he will give Dawa and ask Allah subhanaw taala finally to give us
ability to learn from these stories and mutable Allah me is that Malachite as Salaam Alaikum
Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh
		

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