Munir Ahmed – Tawakkul & Covid Vaccine

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			hamdu Lillahi Rabbil alameen wa Salatu was Salam ala Ashraf will MBA will mursalin wa early he will
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			Are you are you lF? What? Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah. Praise be to Allah Lord of the worlds Peace
and blessings on his prophet muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam Mahabharata Allah, Allah Naboo one
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			Isla de Raji
		
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			Allah subhanaw taala says, as I mentioned in my last reminder a couple of weeks ago, that we will
certainly put you to test and trial with something of fear of hunger and of loss of wealth, loss of
life and of crop,
		
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			give glad tidings to those who are patient and steadfast savarin those who went any kind of calamity
		
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			ensues upon them, or they're faced with it. They say, surely we belong to Allah, and to him is our
return.
		
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			Brothers and sisters, trials and tribulations of the world will always continue and we're on in a
particular one that the whole of humanity
		
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			is facing at the moment, may Allah smart Allah
		
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			increases any man and make us of those who have suffered but this statement of the submarine and to
understand Southern is when they say surely we belong to Allah to Him as our return is not a blahs a
statement. What do I mean, it's not just sit back, it doesn't matter. Whatever happens, who cares?
We come from Allah, we're gonna go back there. In other words, any kind of destruction takes place.
We don't take any kind of precautions. It doesn't matter. We come from Allah, we're going back. But
that's not the attitude that's been put there. Allah saying you put you put you to test. Does that
mean they say we don't take any precautions against fear? We just let any kind of fear come doesn't
		
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			mean to say we don't take any precautions, the gas to famine and hunger. So we just sit there idle,
and we say, yeah, we've been patient, and we're trusting that we're going to go back to him anyway.
Doesn't mean to say we don't take any precautions in regards to loss of life, whether it's through
disease or illness, or or loss of crop or wealth. Yeah, we take no, make no plans. Yeah. And just
sit idly that is complete misunderstanding of Islam, and completely misunderstanding of the
submarine and those who
		
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			rely on trusting Allah subhanaw taala. In fact, Southern brothers and sisters is a very active
process. It's not a passive full gear, arms and just let the MADI come or the last day come and
we're not going to do anything. Whatever ensues falls upon us. We just sit there and say, Oh, yeah,
trust in Allah suberb is very active. It means patience, steadfastness. fortitude. Yeah, making a
striving. Yeah, with all that we have available in our means, which requires very much this summer
requires tawakkol here, which is complete reliance on the loss of an auto complete reliance. But
this debacle is also one of the most misunderstood things in regards to Muslims I'm talking about
		
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			and nevermind others in regards to Muslim debacle is not a passive condition of just, I do nothing,
or whatever I do doesn't matter to Allah, Allah. No. In fact, I've heard and seen people over the
years of my life, I use the word doc lalala, when they're actually
		
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			not being efficient, not being sensible when they're being actually jehlen ignorant, and then just
say to Allah, because they haven't really done things properly. Yeah, as Islam has taught us, when
we do something, do it with sand to the best of our ability, but we forgotten this, some of the sort
of last lesson and what Allah has taught us, and we're less water masons, matava Killeen, those who
are completely reliant Allah Allah Cody says Allah says in the Quran part of the ayah Where shall we
to whom feel m by either as an taffeta white girl law in a law how you will motorway Kaylee st the
profits, lost limb and then after that to us and telling him so take consultation in any kind of
		
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			issues and in the issues that you're planning. Take consultation here. And then finally the assumpta
then you made when you made a decision about
		
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			about any kind of issue, so you doing all the work the planning after consultation and you make a
decision on doing certain things are thing then fatawa kilala yeah then I have complete reliance on
Allah subhanho wa Taala fully Allah loves those who are those who are reliant on him. In regards to
Hajj and Umrah for example Allah smart Allah says don't just turn up any Hold up. What does the word
do? Allah says when he mentions Hajj, so make preparations for in the high desert. Hi Rosa. The
taqwa. So the best preparation is taqwa doesn't mean taqwa is the only thing you turn up with. Yeah.
Although it misunderstood taqwa. Yeah, it's saying taqwa is crucial it is a key but make preparation
		
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			so we do make preparation we don't just turn up and you have to make travel plans you have to have
enough money you have to arrange agents you have to raise accommodation you have to make sure the
family behind a provided for while you go away. Yeah, Allah discussed all this nowadays. You have to
get vaccine injections or certificate. A visa, yeah, passports in order. Otherwise, there's no way
you can imagine ombre. So that's all part and parcel of that. That's why
		
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			at one time, in fact, the time in Oman hot tub rhodiola Whoa. And when he was a middle momineen he
found some people from Yemen who were sitting around the Kaaba
		
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			Canyon as Elena Holland Kava. They were begging at the Kaaba. Yeah, at the time of the pilgrimage.
Omar asks, What are you doing? They said, No. matava chiune. We are those who are reliant on Allah.
Omar was cross with them. You said Bella leston matava kiloohm, Mo Toba Killeen? Less than with
Oakley Belle and tomahto wacky loan and he told them off You said you're not being those who are
lying to Allah. You're like a bunch of beggars. It's a pretense. You know, as you misunderstood what
tawakkol is. You met no preparation. You just turned up begging? Yeah, you don't lifting a finger to
actually strive to do something. And then you trust in Allah smarter, like the prophet SAW slim
		
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			said, kill her. What? photowalk go, yeah, kiat meaning the animal then trust in Allah is not going
to run away. So this understanding of tawakkol and reliance Allah is really misunderstood in our
community.
		
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			Our last one our dollar.
		
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			And if you look at that mean, the misunderstood idea of torkel is like, well, for viruses around it.
Yeah, if I'm gonna catch you, I'm gonna catch it. Yeah, you know, I'm not gonna wear a mask, I'll
mix with all kinds of things. Yeah, might as well send you to the intensive care, go and spend the
day there and see what the doctors and nurses are going through putting themselves and their lives
in danger for all kinds of people see what real illness is? Yeah, this is this kind of attitude.
This is the blazor attitude or misunderstanding and gehele attitude of tawakkol that's like standing
in front of a bus and saying, I trust in Allah. Yeah, of course. It's only Allah Who decides whether
		
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			you're gonna die or not. But that's not the meaning of tawakkol. It's like putting somebody putting
their hand in the fire and say, token Allah, you may as well do that as well. If you're going to
treat the Coronavirus like that. That's the kind of idea you have.
		
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			Do nothing say nothing and just say to walk along the lab, lousy attitude, this is not. This is a
misunderstanding of the beauty of this Dean, which is a dean that is based on rationale and
understanding according to our fidra. So if you look at the Hadith that I mentioned last time, when
the prophet SAW Islam, the Hadith reported by meaning isotonic law in Bukhari Sahih Bukhari Sahih al
Bukhari where the prophet SAW some mentions of a town or the the plague the pandemic coming any
kind, the publicized slump said, it is aurasma Jalla Jalla Allahu Ramadan Lil momineen Allah made
this kind of thing as mercy to the believers what do they do is I a boon is a little town when the
		
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			the pandemic comes infection for young KOSPI Bella de they don't it didn't say they trust in Allah.
No, he said that they do something. You have to do something as well. You know, whatever is
available to your ability means and understanding and medical advancement. So what they had at the
time prophesize lam said for em casa de Bella de Yeah, and that believer they stay put in that
regard it will stay put in their land so it can mean stay put in the home if the government decides
the medical advice is that staying put is an action that has to be taken. Yeah, that can include
wearing masks. Yeah, because the idea is to create a barrier for for those infected from those who
		
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			are not infected to stop it spreading. Then unless further after seeing they take some action like
you
		
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			For young girls saw beaten maka zip and of course saw a bit and then they trusting in Allah after
they take the precautions and the actions yeah with patience expecting yeah and expectance with a
reward from Allah knowing that live Cebu Illa Makita Bella Hola. After the donalda precautions, they
are fully reliant, but only they'll get infected if Allah has decreed that, yeah, they don't stand
in front of the bus and then say, it will only happen if allies decreed it. Yeah, that will be
nonsensical. And, you know, some people had this idea in regards to massage in here that why are we
not motion mclaws blah, blah, blah. This is against Islam. Subhan Allah, this is a miss dismissed
		
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			statements like that is a misunderstanding of Islam, I would say
		
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			don't stop this out. Because it's alright, pray some would even have it actually in the community I
know very well, if it wasn't imposed on them, they would turn up at the mosque without a mask
without the need of their own and not stand a meter or two meters apart or stand next to each other.
And they'll say to walk lalala I mean, this is
		
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			this is stupidity. This is Johanna. This is against the understanding of Islam. This is against the
Prophet sighs Sam who's already setting these stay put, you're not staying put, you're not staying
put, you're removing the barrier that he's trying to put in place to stop it, stopping the
infection. So against going against this universal law further, some actually even said and I was
surprised and shocked to hear and and and and some your mom's even mentioning it Some scholars, one
or two I have even respect for I still call them a scholar. And one scholar I heard in London who
actually said brothers and sisters carry on praying in the masjid because that will also provide you
		
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			immunity from the virus Subhana Allah Subhana Allah did he do we shouldn't make statements like that
this is a statement which is lacking knowledge. Did he do test and trial medical on those who prayed
in the mosque comp, which is actually vast majority of men, close to the ideas we have that the
woman don't even go to the mosque in vast, vast majority of cases. So forget them. They're not going
to have any immunity according to this. So did he do tests and trials for those who prayed five
times? Is it once in the mosque that it produces immunity? Or does he have to be five times or four
times or three times? That's the first question first. Secondly, did he do tests and trial to check
		
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			the antibodies and the levels of each of these mousseline to see that they had higher antibody
against the virus after they prayed in the mosque? Yeah, if he hasn't done that, how can we make
that claim number one, number two, number three, does that mean if I do my Salah alone at home I
don't have any immunity. Yeah, or do I have some and does it mean therefore the Salah dry doing
Gemma which the prophet SAW some mention has 25% 27 times more reward? And I do it in JAMA in my
home with my family. Yeah, in lockdown. I don't get immunity questions for questions. This shows you
the nonsensical pneus of this argument. Yeah, yeah. nonsensical of this argument some side or it's
		
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			reducing the amount of people who are not praying in the mosques upon Allah. I can understand Yeah,
okay. If they're not praying in the mosque and they start praying at home, I can understand that a
man going down something wrong with the problem of the man already if they're not praying Salah
kings five times a day, and Allah made the whole of the earth and mustard. Yeah, and at the hoorah
place for doing cleansing embudo etc. So the whole place is Masjid anyway. And Subhana Allah, we're
not going not not going to the mosque out of it's nice times everybody's having fun and laughter and
we decide not to turn up at the mosque which is at the best muster hub highly recommended anyway,
		
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			yeah. Yeah. But we're doing it because we've been prevented casola Coronavirus because that danger
to life that will not decrease your amount but increase your amount when you having to pray at home
individually and making one playing with the last moto to take away the the waba Yeah, the pandemic
now increases in man, this situation increases amount and for those who believe and even praise
Allah, individually at home Subhana Allah and how is it that we can criticize and say, don't stop
praying in the mosque when we've got a COVID situation which involves death at large scale and
serious illness. When the Sunnah of Rasulullah saw some as a hadith I reported last night, a bus
		
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			Gabriela Juan Homer, which is mentioned
		
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			as Sahih Hadith in Sahih Muslim where he mentioned the publicized slum at the time when it's just
raining outside and muddy. The
		
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			publicize them told them even instead of saying hey Allah Salah come to prayer, he told them what to
say Salafi boo, take home selfie boo, take home, pray in your homes. The prophet SAW Islam. Yeah.
		
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			Part of the law giver himself of Islam, who's recommending to pray? And he's saying, in the case of
rain only pray in your home. Can you imagine that when the prophet SAW some gives the order to the
Muslim to call that, that any Sahabi is going to disobey the order of the prophet SAW Salem and turn
up to the mosque to pray when he says pray in your homes as an order. Can you imagine that saying
no, no, no, no, we can't stop bringing them up. Yeah, yeah. And he did that civilize them for just
the case issue of rain. Yeah. This issue of rain. This is the law giver, Allah and His messenger
who, who orders Salah in the masjid is highly recommended here. Who's given the order to pray in
		
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			your homes in the situation of rain? What would be the situation which is more serious COVID-19 or
rain? Ask yourself brothers and sisters, and you have your answer. In the end prophesize Lim said
Allah didn't send any illness that he also sent for a cure except for death. So seek the cure. That
was the order from the prophet SAW Selim. Yeah, part of cure. treatment is quarantine. Yeah, quote,
part of that is as the as practiced and statements from the prophet SAW slim, in many statements and
authentic ahaadeeth. We practice like that the quarantine idea whether it can be in the land or in
the home or with masks, all these kind of things. Yeah. So and part of it is prevention, that's part
		
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			of the cure, as well as quarantine can be prevention. And so, vaccines in that sense, as well, part
of the part of the
		
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			the, the way of battling with this kind of disease and illness. Now, when it comes to vaccines,
		
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			Subhan Allah, we really have an issue in our community. And Muslim curriculum, we have to look at
ourselves. Yeah, there's a lot of conspiracy theories out there. Yeah. But unfortunately, why is it
that we fall for
		
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			not not listening to the experts, including the British Board of Imams and scholars, and many, many,
many experts, Muslims even and they don't have to be Muslims in the field of immunology and vaccines
and infectious disease. not listen to that. But listen to some quacks here on there who are rampant
on social media. And this is a danger with Google or Dr. Google or expert Google. People get all cry
all kinds of things. Let me clarify a few things for our community women sisters, of course, it
depends on whether you have any trust and reliance on what I say anyway, I can't make everybody
listen in my community, when I can only tell you what my understanding of the deen is and also have
		
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			a background in medicine as well. vaccines, some people spread the idea or it's got gelatine in it.
There is no gelatin in any of the vaccines that we have available at the moment in regards to
COVID-19. Let's make that clear. And even if there was gelatine, there is clear difference of
opinion amongst salamah about the chain state of whether the gelatin even if it comes from an animal
which is haram itself, like the pig or whether it's been slaughtered in her own way like the sheep
or the cow. When the gelatin come from there's something called St. Hala a change state, which
Hanafi especially talk about but don't practice unfortunately in this situation, many of them some
		
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			of them do. And that allows for that gelatin to be used. There is no gelatin in these vaccines, but
I'm saying even that would be even something Haram in regards to medication. It is well known in the
Muslim scholarship is the maxim is as the wrong word to be who mahalo Mahabharat that the necessity
of saving life and preventing serious illness and makes that which is haram allowable? Yeah so in
medicinal situation when there's no alternative. Then in that situation even haram ingredients are
allowed to be taken to safeguard life and and serious illness. But there is no harm. There's no
gelatine in these, some factoids got fetal cells from babies abort, it's nonsense. There's no fetal
		
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			cells in any vaccine. Some fetal cell from 1970 was used because viruses have a medium but the
process has gone so there's no fetal cells. Full stop. haven't got time to explain every little
nitty gritty detail.
		
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			Somebody said some people have been spreading around. They're putting a chip
		
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			Inside you so they can monitor and watch what you're doing and who you are and what your likes and
dislikes are. Well, actually, they already know that. We don't need a chip. Everybody's mobile
phone. Yeah. Already you don't need to be on anything. Yeah. People want to know can listen to what
you're doing and know where you are who you are know much about us already. What are we going to be
afraid of as believers anyway? Yeah, if we're not up to something dodgy then there's nothing for us
to be afraid of. Because we've got a lot and he's sent angels recording every little nook and cranny
detail. We already we already have that belief. So what do we need to fear in that regard, though?
		
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			There is no chip inside this absolute nonsense. Being peddled out there under single causes
infertility, not know. So what we have on the basis vaccines brother and sister You should know how
to the whole of medication has had a massive impact in safeguarding, preventing deaths and in
safeguarding serious illness in many serious illnesses, from polio, to tetanus, to yellow fever, to
measles, etc, etc, is a long list worldwide, it saves so many lives. And it's the most used kind of
medication by 1000s of percents compared to all other medication, because it's being given at such a
massive scale. And all of us have had them. So in line with vaccines, these have come with that
		
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			background of experience, and in a similar way, they have been produced. Yeah. So vaccines, if
Actually, I was to look at the side effects, even of everyday Calpol paracetamol that we take for
headache. If you open the piece of paper and look at the possible side effects, you will never take
parsley to Milan, and I assure you, brother and sister, so let's not actually become damp,
dumbfounded or stupid in this regard. vaccines have been produced, and what we look at here is harm
and benefit. We look at harm and benefit on an individual level. Yeah. And what is that? That in the
end? Is it better to be vaccinated? Yeah, from COVID-19. And the side effects possible with the
		
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			vaccine compared to if you catch COVID-19, and the possible side effects of that, which is well
known. And that comes into play, especially when you're elderly, that comes into play, especially if
you're elderly from the Asian population, and especially if you have things like diabetes already,
and which is rampant in the Asian community, especially in the older populations over 16, etc. Yeah,
that chance of death and serious and the Coronavirus really goes up compared to Yes, we haven't got
any long term experience accepted. But what we have is an emergency situation at the moment. Yes.
And if that vaccine, yeah, actually, even if we find that if we give a million vaccines, and this is
		
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			where the individual versus the community situation comes of benefit versus harm from an Islamic
point of view. If we had a million people take the vaccine, yeah. And five people or 10 people died
from them, compared to a million people catching the Coronavirus. Yeah, and many factors are at
work, and then perhaps
		
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			100 people or 200 people or more, yeah, die from them, then you can see where clearly the harm
versus the benefit. So at the harm of the individual, the community will be protected. That's where
the priority will be given. Yeah. Yeah. So we haven't got that situation where a million vaccines
cause 10 deaths, etc. We have some reports going around. But whether it's from nowhere till it or
not corroborated, it needs more details, coincidental death in very elderly people who've got many
illnesses anyway. Okay. So of course, it needs observing a closer eye looking at it, but we've got
an emergency situation. Yeah. So clearly, from what I've seen, taking of the vaccine, by far out
		
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			ways, the spread of the invention of COVID-19. And especially in certain categories of people, and
that is those I would say, especially in the elderly population, especially in the Muslim Asian
community. Yeah. So I would urge people and you know, we also have a responsibility finally, to the
wider community. If I can be you know, go around Blasio saying, I'm not gonna take it blah, blah,
blah. But actually, it's not just about you as an individual, if you're not taking it, or a group of
you not taking it, and perhaps you weren't going to get serious illness, but it causes the virus
through you to spread to others who are elderly, perhaps in your own family. And this has happened
		
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			to many by the way. Yeah, who were blasted
		
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			And then it spread in their family and the elders in the family actually parents from Coronavirus,
what kind of responsibility do you hold with that regard? And that happens on a community level, you
are going to be held responsible by Allah subhanaw taala. So I feel in the end, there's a duty here.
This is Islam is about selflessness and caring for others, not just a Mimi attitude, I believe part
of that duty is that responsibility to others and I mean, Muslims or non Muslim I mean to humanity,
brothers and sisters. Yeah, man, you know, when you go into hospital, the non Muslim doctors and
nurses don't say, Oh, it's a Muslim. You know, we don't want them to survive and therefore when we
		
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			make our do as well, it shouldn't be also just, oh, Allah gives you power to the Muslims. No, give
Shiva to human beings out there. The second the L our neighbors here. people in our community, the
doctors and the nurses. Yeah, Allah. Yeah, this is
		
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			I'm sorry, the hook was a bit long. But I felt that I needed to say some things. Be careful. Yeah.
Be warned brother and sister if you are one of those spreading without knowledge, and medicine is
not your field, and you're not an alum in the field of Islam. And you are spreading rumors here,
which you've been convinced about, which may cause the death or serious illness of others you will
be held responsible and before Allah subhanho wa Taala so be very careful what you pass for. put
forward and spread. May Allah protect us forgive us. Keep us guided on Serato stalking this
beautiful dean of enlike I enlightening me Allah smart Allah forgive us our sins. Have mercy on the
		
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			souls of those who are passed away. Give schiefer to all those who are ill. in hospital and outside
hospital, Marisol protectors, Lama I mean,
		
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			that one in a minute, Salaam Alaikum.