Mohammed Hijab – Is Boxing and Kickboxing and MMA Haram by Consensus

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			and Medina. He's done his BA there and in Sharia, and he's also completed an MA in also alpha. In
fact, he was studying Suffield in Hindi, wasn't it? And yeah, my thesis mighty sila was Sofia is
		

			fantastic. And I was doing his PhD on also effect as well. What I found really interesting is that
when I was having Nick harsh in discussion with this particular chef, he was, first of all, so
brilliant in terms of, I'm not just doing this to you know, overpraising everybody, but in terms of
using something called maktabah Shambhala, which is this research tool. And I must Allah came up,
which we're going to speak about today,
		

			which is the muscle of hitting in the face. Now, this is usually the thing that is used. If you look
at festivals, for example, on boxing, or MMA has become a very, it's one of the most oft asked
questions I get, which is a factory question. Of course. I usually say You know, there's photos out
there, but I can't do a start a photo is not really my remit
		

			that I get asked about MMA and boxing and these kinds of things. And the whole thing hinges on one
Hadith. And there's different ways of it, of course, but the hadith is is a radical, Mahalia van de
la halacha. Adam, Allah, Swati dada. Hopefully I'll tackle watch fit and
		

			finish tribulation another way, right? No, yeah. So it's this hadith is effectively saying if one of
you engages in fighting with his brother, then let him avoid the face or let him not hit the face.
Because Allah has created Adam on his image. And most scholars say on Adams image now this is the
Hadith isn't Biharis and other collections as well. And if you see any of the fatwas relating to
MMA, or boxing, or kickboxing, or Muay Thai, or any of the stronger life on Sunday, they kind of all
around this hadith. So we did a bit of research. I mean, let's be honest, you did a very
		

			Oh, no, let us be honest, you made videos. And then you came to me time after, like, a few days?
Because even the key content like 10 times did you check it out?
		

			But we did find closer, didn't we? Because the thing is a bog standard ideas this is that there is
each match is what I've seen on Islam, QA in Islam, I don't know, web and these kinds of things.
There is Ismar, that Double Wedge or hitting the face. It's Lockean. is haram. In any situation,
Muslim non Muslim net, where there's no net result is no Cara, it's Ismar. But would you say that's
an an accurate assessment of the scholarly tradition? First of all, I started researching this not
actually, before you came out while I was in Medina, really, because I started doing I want to do
some martial arts myself, I'm getting Subhanallah by being there, I was feeling like my health is
		

			declining and stuff like that being that you're just eating the fast and all this and so I started
so I started doing stuff for myself. 100.
		

			So I was interested in finding this thing, because I knew about
		

			as you mentioned, in order for the contemporary, whatever they find for you find online you find on
the internet. Yes. So I took this hadith I started researching this hadith. Yeah, I went through
many, many explanations, Shahar to this hadith 100, maybe even 200 Wow, to see what the classical
schools actually mentioned. And if it is actually the case that there is an EMR meaning and
Measurement Agreement, everybody Yeah, about this hadith, or if there might be room to interpret
this in certain specific contexts, or if there are some exceptions on this because of what I did
yeah, because I was gonna say like, you'll see heavyweights there's no doubt about it people like
		

			and no are you people like modulus Kalani and others, they do believe that hang in the face haram,
they do believe it will be another they do actually take this to mean in all cases in all times, but
what did you find which was contrast? So you definitely have that opinion. And this is what is
crucial? Yes. When we as academics and data, we are used to academics. Yes, we need to approach
these kinds of Messiah, first and foremost in an academic manner. Sure. Meaning this not our third
year meaning our preferring one opinion over the other or declaring one opinion to be strong or
correct or wrong, or any anything we're not trying to do. Analyzing. Yeah, right. And we need to be
		

			honest with you
		

			Let the opinions hang and then let the scholars decide in which situation should be applicable and
whatever, mashallah, you're still here. Make sure that you donate by clicking the link below because
the rewards are unimaginable. Will you do find is that some of the scholars
		

			like Astana irony, for example, sure. He did mention that this hadith is in the context of striking
only this hadith or in the quarter at home, a holy age seven year old or otherwise revived from
Sahih Muslim said, that says is the author Ah ha, ha, ha, ha, hopefully instantly, but watch this is
applicable. If you are fighting a non Muslim.
		

			Meaning no, no, sorry. Sorry. Muslim. Yeah, Muslim, meaning it does not apply if you're fighting a
Muslim. And non Muslim, non Muslim somehow I'm flipping up there.
		

			Because he's saying, Well, who here brother? Is brother in faith? He's not saying brother in
humanity. Yeah. And that's the other opinion. Yes. So the other scholars that did say this is
referring to brother in humanity. Yeah. But that's not the only opinion. Right? So this other
opinion, or some irony in some of the other schools as well, is that this means brother in faith,
meaning if you're finding someone who's not a brother in faith, yeah, then it does not apply. Okay,
can we actually bring those opinions out? Because someone's gonna say, You have misunderstood what I
saw. And he says, if you go and look at, you know, this particular call of Sinani, he's talking
		

			clearly Zaarly can brother he's talking clearly he's getting excited because you see the Trump as
something else. Very natural reaction. Let's walk a little bit maybe, yeah.
		

			Well, I was gonna say that he gonna say look, he's talking about in the, in the context of war, for
example, there's
		

			a lot of these quotes are in the context of war. That's true. But at the same time, I didn't find
any other scholars maybe like one or two, even that was unclear of what you got, understand that
this is restricted to the context of warfare. So
		

			many, so when the scholars talked about this hadith, they talked about contexts, such as warfare
deferential, such as punishments, like
		

			context and deep as well. Yes, and other kinds of contexts is disciplining? Yeah.
		

			Anything like disciplining people like
		

			the opposite. Go ahead. Yeah. So for example, as a nanny, he's me he mentioned Well, ha the night
your arm a liquidity, Durbin wallet meminta demon right here. Okay, you mentioned the Hadith. If one
of you are fighting,
		

			then basically abstain from hitting the face, right? So he's saying this, he mentioned some
examples, but
		

			Muslim or something like this, as you say, your shadow know what he says? Uh huh. Who you shadow and
who your Muslim is seems like he's talking about Muslims when he says it's
		

			a Ha hoo
		

			hoo, the Katella caphyon fella I lay here that's what you're referring to. Yes. So what you're
saying is you're covered doesn't apply? Yeah, he says that he says that counter arguments somewhat
could possibly make warfare Yeah, specifically Sure. But in his other books,
		

			other books, so well as salam Yeah, he does mention that this he mentions that hadith, okay. And
then he mentions one of you had them in lado de Shara. Yeah, hello, Phil Jihads. So he mentioned
these examples. And then he mentions also, the higher the number the higher the number Armonico
leaderboard, as mentioned, arm is general to every kind of hitting Well, that's made me Demonoid
even if tidy already of jihad or fighting warfare. Anything. So the same, the same, the same
generalities and the same exceptionalities will apply. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Okay, so Okay, well,
someone's got to respect the Sinani is not a mess heavy. Yes. Let's just Yeah, cuz he's not he
		

			doesn't represent a mocha but he's, he's a wildcard in the scholarly tradition. Why don't you bring
us some more from them? Or they have if you've got anyone from Weatherhead Yeah, you have sponsored
them or they have as well Yeah. So now you can say yeah, he was like that like kind of special in
that kind of sense. You being me and this and that, right? Fine. So
		

			for example, you have Al Quran, the Quran is 100 Yeah, Hanafi scholars.
		

			So he was basically criticizing this idea because, you know, some of the scholars in the village is
quite, quite interesting. Yeah, they did say that. This prohibition of striking in the face, they
said that this applies even in warfare. Okay. Yes. Which is kind of difficult to understand because
Allah says in the Quran for the people for collana he was the woman who could have been an example
of the head above the neck. Sorry, yeah. So they said this, yes. Because Allah created Adam in His
image and so it is in general applying to absolutely everything. So this is one understanding. Yes.
So according to Al Quran, he said about how the volatile This is a huge mistake, or he does not
		

			agree with this opinion out. And then he has played some statements because that would mean that you
can't you can't hit the guys. You can't hit military warfare on his face. Yes, what that opinion
would suggest that's what that's exactly what my opinion is. That even in warfare, you cannot hit
the face. Yeah.
		

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day that these people will be basically dragged on the fight on the other faces. So he's saying that
		

			meaning non Muslims in this specific case people who Dion's non Muslims. So he's saying, why your
former teleological carefree? And then he said, because a lot of times you have to care for equals.
So basically we say, Yeah, are you formally Nam? So this means what kind of scientist it is. So
yeah, so his opinion. Yes. And again, I just analyzing opinions. I think anytime you're doing any
third you nothing, we're just studying classical Islamic literature. We're talking about is this guy
living now? It was your hundreds of years ago, hundreds of years ago. He died in 893. He, in fact,
wow. Okay. So it's a very classical, okay. Not that classical.
		

			was like, 14 for you. Yeah, fine, fine. They have more classical people, of course. But the point
is, if it's using this kind of argument, yes, that's that means he's making a general case. Yes.
He's making a general case that he's saying that this being applicable in the context of warfare is
wrong. And then he's using this idea as well, to say that there is no Herma for the wedge of someone
who does not believe face. Yeah.
		

			I'll call Ronnie. He's an obscure figure. Someone will argue, yeah. Any of the heavyweights, any of
the heavyweights? Some of them
		

			mentioned, for example, that this number that you have, it's not an umber of command and command
exactly imperative command. So you have a wire made and this this part also will fit right. When you
have an unruly live Would you believe? Or different kinds of things, right? Or even Yeah, even
exist? For someone who says I handled them for slavery and in the Quran? Yeah, exactly. The example.
Or whatever. No, no, no, you have this thing or the thing of
		

			zero.
		

			So you have this concept, I'm sure. So some of them. They did mention that this
		

			camera in this is not for the job. So it's not obligatory. It's for it's yeah, it's a
recommendation. It's a recommendation. So if someone doesn't faze you, then according to this view
is not converting it's not coming. Yeah. Still is recommended to stay away from of course, who is
who says that? Even the milk for example. He mentioned that he is a scholar of the Hanafi madhhab,
isn't it? Yeah, he's what's called for her husband.
		

			I'm looking for this guy. Yeah.
		

			But yeah, but he's He doesn't say is his opinion. Yes, he is. But he is portrayed, because he's
like, the only opinion is mentioning but he's still saying, Well, he'll umbrella. And usually it's
diaphysis. Weak. It's not really the because some 100 listeners, it's not the mafia behind them.
Yeah, that's true. You need to you need to balance you need to academic Of course, it's not the it's
not the move. This is not the mark.
		

			In fact, this opinion, it is a minority opinion, because the vast majority of scholars, yes. Who
talked about this? Yes, they did mention that this camera is in fact, for who should and they had no
discussions like yours, for example, he had discussions about this, and never we
		

			didn't have to discuss issues. And the reason they had a discussion about this is because of this,
because this difference of opinion that you have also said that I saw I saw something from a Mullah
Ali Carrboro Have you got that because that's a big figure in the Hanafi madhhab and he's written
lots of sugar had on the Hadith and including this hadith and things. So that was his position on
this matter. Again, his position is not quite clear because he says something very similar okay,
because the Hadith for La sala de la had a lot of Aledo meaning if you're fighting with others
forgetting or others and of alleged animal watch, yeah, and then he says afterwards, let me just
		

			find a quote again, I flipped the phone. So you know what?
		

			This
		

			function
		

			basically said, yeah, so he says the same thing he says, peeler and unruliness. He says the same
thing. Yeah, Leonardo had a highly Muslim on your conduct with Allah humara likova.
		

			He's giving Talib though he's giving reasoning, isn't it? Yeah. He's giving you a reason. Yes.
Because the obvious matter, and he's talking about in this example is giving Yeah, in the context of
warfare. Yeah, it's not the ombre is going to be sorry, is that is that he's going to fight now
another Muslim? He's going to fight a non Muslim. Sure, sure. And then what's also interesting is
that a lot of the scholars who talked about this is some of them don't mention the incident in the
time of the Prophet SAW Salem. Yes, that was another Muslim who's hitting another Muslim. I was in
this context that is ambiguous. So that's why we need to understand that this hadith, or all these
		

			examples about this hadith is not just just about the concept of the context of warfare, it's also
about generally speaking
		

			We just one more scholar just to make it something else because he's all fringe opinions by bringing
them together. But what do you get one more opinion? Just to seal the deal. Hey, what we're talking
about if you've got any other names
		

			you have the opposite happened to Hillary as well. Surely Allah though, no another one. Yeah, but
he's still a bit master figure. Hanafy figures name from Leon. Yes. Yes. Yeah. He's saying pillar
pillar number one in limited ways. This is one standard is armor is for Nether right that is this
new recommendation? Yes. And then he also mentioned this thing that I just talked about, because
yeah, and I hadn't counted the other kinda yonder. Wha Ha ha, ha, ha ha who Rossum is Allah's Allah
Dalek. Hold on for a second you still want those incredible rewards right? So make sure you click
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			alum person the Muslim was hitting another believer and you know what's interesting, bro is like you
were mentioning before we started this, this episode, you mentioned something which is actually
quite
		

			often and also should we do that first? What is the opinion? Yes.
		

			So this is a third opinion is very similar to that. And this is from another scholar called a two
PhDs to boost to difficult finance and yeah, he's saying for you California accident watch habitat.
So he's saying that it's basically the opposite of the alarm. Really not. But if you do it, it's not
haram, it's more cruel. Yeah. And he's a Hanafi as well just
		

			so you have a chunk of Hanafi saying things like this. Now once again, I know the Humphrey is gonna
say this not nomophobia. And we've asked the Mufti and he's gonna say no, that's my temper of the
Metabones but innocence discussion I'm yeah.
		

			100 fees and I respect 100 views alive that I'm not helping myself. Do I really? I do respect 100
fees? Yes. But personally, though, I don't agree with this concept is obligatory, the form of debate
or the alcohol more of a method? And that's more of a solid discussion. Maybe we'll open up another
kind of of both opinions. exists I respect both opinion yes. But personally, I don't think that is
the so the thing is going back to the issue of brotherhood on this idea of being a HA HA HA HA HA HA
alpha is a part of that had to come a hopefully a tequila which when Allah Allah Allah, Allah, Allah
Allah Allah Swati z the word Ha hoo hear it seen another Hadees Okay, now obviously if someone can
		

			say we're in a small home can I walk into a home that in the Quran but that's very very contextual,
their brother sila had their brothers who their brothers whatever, and their brothers such and such
prophets mentioned certain hoods for Saltos for example, but as you can see, the context is very
special specific their brothers, their country brother Yanni they living in within, but a haka or a
ha who in their third person when they are second place where the process alum is doing it, it
doesn't usually come
		

			in the Yanni as a as a nonlinear Brotherhood is talking about brotherhood and Islam. So for example,
I'll give you one example they could have cut a haka you may occur while the bog standard definition
at the process Salam gave of what is Riba? What is backbiting? He says they could occur at a hockey
micro mentioning about your brother what he doesn't like. So most scholars say that, I mean, this is
a controversial thing to say. But backbiting, where you actually get major sins, doesn't apply with
for sack and it doesn't apply with Kufa doesn't. That's what the majority of scholars saying. Yeah,
Muslims stuff it doesn't apply with Fast X Muslims who are known to do certain things, it doesn't
		

			apply with disbelievers. That's what all non Muslims, so the Hukam of backbiting. You can say you've
got some similar phraseology here with the brother in this hadith and the brother in this hadith. So
you can see where they're coming from. I mean, it's not it's not Yanni. Yeah, that's the whole thing
you can close it you can say like, even the Tsar here you can say generally speaking, yes. Even
though as mentioned, he has called they said this is this is Brother earplugs to the Brotherhood
regarding the meaning from either mother has learned the brotherhood of humanity. Yes, this is what
this is talking about. So you can argue in this way as well. You can answer generally speaking, it's
		

			true like if you took take the voice Yes. How do you look at the new tools to textured textual
evidence? Yes. Of the Shediac when you when you have the word your brother mentioned there
		

			anything unqualified Yeah, yeah, it is unqualified, but usually it does refer to the Muslim brother.
		

			That is, what is the case? Yes, it's true. So it makes perfect sense. What I was gonna say about
this is that look, we're not making a fatwa therefore, because the conclusion someone can bring is
well therefore this is definitely gonna do the thing.
		

			The conclusion someone can bring is that therefore members have halal or even boxing going into
boxing matches, kickboxing, Muay Thai, everything. And frankly, what to be clear you're not making a
fatwa here on any of that stuff. You're not making tough be on that you're not saying because let me
tell you how it works. I mean, as I'm sure you know,
		

			All right. No, no, frankly, there's gradations of it. So someone can do. For example, sparring in a
club that's firing in a club is you're not trying to hurt the other person. You can do technical
technical sparring. Yeah. And you will end up hitting the face. You hit love. No, no, you hit the
face to gloves and get him back. And it's whatever, but you're not trying to knock him out. You're
not exact that will be seen as bad manners. And
		

			according to some of the Fatah, this will be haram. Yeah, if you take a little literal, reading an
implementation of this hadith, this level, we can talk about the face, you've got the hearts pouring
level up, you've got like, you know, interclub fights or whatever you want. We've got amateur
fights, then you have professional fights. Now, all of these things, they're all separate fetters
for separate people. In separate circumstances, some people are coming off the streets, and they've
got high dopamine energy. And let's say they've been told to go and do. And I do believe that
freestyle wrestling is probably the best one anyway, right. And it doesn't require anything in the
		

			phases, like if you're not really freestyle, wrestling is whatever, but they want to feel a little
bit of passion, they want to feel a little bit of fear, whatever, those people get them off the
streets, for example, and into a boxing ring of getting them to a kickboxing ring. It may be the
lesser of two evils for some people. But that would require fatwah to be passed on that person. He's
coming out of the life of crime and gangsters. And you tell him that you have to do this and that it
might be difficult for him, people are suffering from addictions. So these are outlets at least we
should know as the Muslim community, that there are other opinions on this very Hadith. Now, the
		

			movies is their job not to do the implementation on specific circumstances. Everyone knows the
situation best they go to a movie, they say this and that calm down, calm down, calm down. It's just
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Impossible. Do you think this is a fair enough assessment? Yeah, I completely agree with everything
mentioned yesterday. So the thing is, this evidence in of itself, so delille there, right. But
		

			because you have the classical scholars that did differ in how to apply it back then. So that means
that today, if you want to look at all these different kinds of martial arts that have involved
striking in the face, and this and that,
		

			it is true that a lot of them did use this hadith, right? The based upon this hadith. But the thing
is,
		

			this hadith is understood by the classical scholars in different ways. For example, does it apply to
the good to the normal standard talked about? Is the command an obligation? Or is it just like a
recommendation? So because of this, we're not saying that MMA for example, if you go into UFC,
that's halal. We're not saying I'm not going to give such a fatwa like this, because there might be
other reasons. Other factors. Other things. Like for example, you should have Aurora. Right? You
have problems like this, you have other kinds of ring girls, isn't that? Yeah, all these different
things. You cannot give a fuck about this like to make something like this is completely halal. But
		

			what I'm trying to say is this specific delille Yes. And then to say to us this Frankie's, like us?
That's us. Yeah. As an associate. All you have some similar things. Yeah, also, but this is the main
thing, this is the thing, right? To say that this in of itself, is enough to make all sorts of
striking in the face as haram and to the extent that this is contrary to the extent this is your
motto, and to the extent that this is agreed upon and this clear cut, this is something I don't
think is the case at all. I don't think they This was because you have the classical scholars, yes.
Who opened up some room for each they heard about this specific matters here. I think so. I think
		

			basically my what I believe is we need to assess each martial arts even the aspect of striking in
the face, it needs to be assessed the idea according to the rules of that specific martial arts, to
which extent if the going like how brutal brutal like
		

			boxing that might be, like, come on, like, you know, these guys have nothing you break your wrists
on the guys comes out.
		

			They also have the aspect of dadada right? Yeah. of harm. Yeah. Louder. The rocks are the refusal.
		

			Because the every time someone does something like that they're losing a massive part of health
anyway. Yeah, exactly. So we have to think about CTE and all this brain damage and a lot of stuff,
which is new technology, which actually is, is there as well. But then that's what I'm saying. We're
just opening the door on this issue, because it's every situation is is different. And it's thank
you so much for this. I think it's been very, very pleasurable. Honestly, I think a lot of people
it's the first time someone of knowledge, I think has actually spoken about this in this way, in the
Western world, or even in the Arabic speaking world, because it's just, I don't think anyone has had
		

			the motivation, or maybe the courage to mention this difference of opinion. But I'm here with Zhi
Shan and SHFC Shan here works with Islam now. He's an unbelievable researcher.
		

			Fantastic he, because he's able to go with like a wizard on this camera camera. And he's actually
taught me how to use it to some extent Well, there's some lessons to be learned, which is a
fantastic database, probably the biggest one we'll just say now the Muslim world where you can look
at all the skirt, scholarly opinions, or there's about 10,000 books on there, I think, in general.
		

			And we looked at all the books and stuff like that we were able to bring you this kind of
information today. And that's why we always need as a backbone of our work. People like researchers
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