Lauren Booth – Meeting Erturgrul cemented my move to Turkey

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A guest on radio discusses his love for Turkey's culture and the importance of it to their community. They also talk about a family show called Little House on the Prairie that brought interest to them. The guest describes a woman who talks English and describes a film experience as intense and intense. They also mention a woman in a tent and a woman in a room who talks English and describes it as a intense experience.

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			As-salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu, ahlan
		
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			wa sahlan wa marhaban lukum, hosh gardeners and
		
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			hello to all Radio Dawn 107.6 FM
		
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			listeners, viewers and Pre-Meet Institute followers as
		
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			well.
		
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			I'm really excited about today, thank you very
		
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			much for joining us today, it's a really
		
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			exciting session and I'm really happy about it,
		
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			I'm really excited, my heart's pounding already because
		
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			of the stuff that we're going to be
		
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			talking about.
		
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			I just want to mention the guest that
		
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			we have today is live from Turkey itself,
		
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			alhamdulillah.
		
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			Turkey is very important to us and it's
		
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			in our hearts, alhamdulillah, I've visited Turkey and
		
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			I really felt something special about it and
		
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			it's got some great Islamic history there as
		
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			well and inshallah we'll also talk about that
		
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			at some point today as well.
		
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			Without further ado, we welcome Sister Laura Booth,
		
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			as-salamu alaykum.
		
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			Wa alaykum as-salamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa
		
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			barakatuhu, hosh gardeners, nice to be here.
		
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			You're live from Turkey as well, absolutely fantastic,
		
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			so if we're not in Turkey, we've got
		
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			some sort of connection with Turkey through yourself
		
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			at the moment.
		
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			You're all welcome, come visit, it's an open
		
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			place, we would love to see you inshallah.
		
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			Sister Laura, are you actually basically in Istanbul
		
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			at the moment, is that where you're residing?
		
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			I've been living here for two years by
		
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			the grace of Allah and it's been amazing,
		
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			I'm about to move house within, move home
		
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			within Istanbul but it's definitely, you know, a
		
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			space that has a lot of expats here
		
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			at the moment.
		
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			I think there's a group that I'm on
		
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			that has 1,000 English speakers in Istanbul
		
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			alone and there are many more who won't
		
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			know about that group but they're gathering to
		
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			kind of learn about Deen and do good
		
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			deeds and support charities and nice people, hamdulillah,
		
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			good people and more importantly than that of
		
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			course is the Turkish community because when you
		
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			move to a place you shouldn't, you know,
		
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			the Brits have been too good about setting
		
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			up sort of centres and not speaking the
		
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			local language and not getting on, that said
		
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			I don't speak English yet but with love
		
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			to our Turkish, you know, neighbours and hosts
		
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			really and getting to know them, getting to
		
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			know the culture is very, very important.
		
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			Sister Laura, we know Turkey's got an amazing
		
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			Islamic history, it's the last Islamic state as
		
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			well, why Turkey?
		
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			I visited here around six, seven years ago
		
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			and then got a couple more invitations to
		
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			come back and I think that it still
		
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			fulfills its role as east meets west, that
		
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			is how Allah Ta'ala has placed it,
		
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			you know, you're one foot, literally you're one
		
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			foot in Europe and the other in Asia
		
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			and so you're across two great continents and,
		
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			you know, the Christianity that came through here
		
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			and then the Islam that flourished here and
		
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			then the people making their way in the
		
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			modern state of Turkey, I think it's a
		
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			very special place in the world, mashallah.
		
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			Mashallah, alhamdulillah, now obviously Turkey is very special
		
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			to us, very important to us as well
		
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			and I think it's a shame because as
		
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			Muslims I don't think we actually recognised its
		
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			value to us until these famous television series
		
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			that have come on, I think there's many
		
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			now, the first one that started was Ertuğrul,
		
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			wasn't it?
		
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			Resurrection Ertuğrul and from then we got Alp
		
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			Arslan, we got Osman, we got so many
		
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			that come on, I think the interest is
		
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			there and now people are actually visiting Turkey
		
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			now trying to find out more intrigue and
		
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			actually visiting, you know, the famous sites, for
		
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			example the tomb of Ertuğrul and the Halima
		
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			and so on, the stars as well, so
		
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			I think that's actually raised the interest but
		
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			another thing and I think I'm really jealous
		
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			about is that you actually got to meet
		
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			the cast as well, you had to visit
		
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			them, I'm so jealous.
		
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			Can you say mashallah please?
		
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			So this was something incredible, I mean like
		
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			you, you know, my children were a bit
		
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			younger, they're in their teens and you're constantly
		
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			looking for, please God, give us some ethical
		
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			content, you know, we're looking for, I mean
		
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			when I was a kid we used to
		
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			watch Little House on the Prairie, now I
		
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			have to say, although it's from a Christian
		
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			background, I think it still stands the test
		
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			of time.
		
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			If you're really stuck for something ethical with
		
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			good people doing good things and considering one
		
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			another, you could go a lot fast worse
		
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			than something like Little House on the Prairie.
		
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			Islamically, since in the last 10 years, yes
		
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			there have definitely been new cartoon series and
		
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			family shows coming through but when my kids
		
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			were teenagers it was like, what do we
		
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			watch together?
		
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			So then we discovered Ertuğrul and, you know,
		
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			just it drew you in and seeing, I
		
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			don't know about you brother, but seeing our
		
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			brothers and sisters praying on screen is like,
		
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			oh we do that, oh that's actually us,
		
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			I'm not watching another, because even if we're
		
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			watching say, you know, you have Pakistani soaps
		
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			or Indian soaps or any, they're people not
		
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			doing great things, they're not being their best
		
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			selves on the whole in dramas, you know,
		
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			and if we're in Britain, those people are
		
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			definitely not being their best selves in TV
		
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			dramas, okay.
		
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			So for once Ertuğrul brought to our screens
		
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			something that was aspirational, full of hope and
		
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			a dynamic vision of what a Muslim leader
		
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			could look like and it just melted our
		
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			hearts.
		
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			So how did it happen?
		
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			Yeah, I got contacted by the Eunice Emery
		
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			Institute, now they have a centre in London,
		
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			if you ever get the chance go and
		
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			take a visit.
		
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			They do lots of cultural events, do with
		
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			the Turkish language and Turkish poetry and Ottoman
		
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			history, mashallah.
		
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			They contacted me and said, would you like
		
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			to come on an early Ertuğrul tour?
		
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			And I said, subhanallah, this is what a
		
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			great opportunity.
		
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			And so I said, I don't suppose any
		
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			chance of going on set is there, so
		
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			it was still filming, this is now, good
		
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			four years ago now.
		
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			And they said yes, but nobody gets on
		
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			set.
		
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			The only people who've been on set were,
		
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			I think it was a Venezuelan leader and
		
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			of course the President of Turkey, President Erdoğan.
		
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			They're like the only people who've got on
		
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			set and I'm like, okay, I know my
		
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			place, I know my place, I'm not, you
		
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			know, a president of people, so I'll keep
		
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			it in my heart and maybe, you know,
		
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			maybe I'll just ask Allah, I'd really love
		
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			to meet these people if possible and get
		
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			that moment in, you know.
		
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			And so by the grace of Allah, they
		
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			said, amazingly Lauren, now you're in Turkey, they've
		
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			said you can come on set.
		
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			And I was like, my heart was pounding
		
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			like you wouldn't believe, subhanallah.
		
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			And one of the, one of my observations
		
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			was this, that I've, by the grace of
		
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			Allah, I've met President Erdoğan as well in
		
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			the presidential palace in Ankara.
		
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			And, you know, every world leader that you
		
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			meet, you have tiers of security and roadblocks
		
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			and things to go through.
		
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			It was harder getting onto the set of
		
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			Ertugrul than getting close to President Erdoğan.
		
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			That's how serious they were.
		
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			So it took place, it was filmed in
		
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			the, in the hills and forests, just I
		
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			think to the north of Istanbul.
		
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			We were taken by car.
		
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			I mean, honestly, had they put, had they
		
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			kind of handcuffed me and put on a,
		
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			you know, put a blindfold on, I wouldn't
		
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			have been surprised because they did not want
		
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			us to know where you're going.
		
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			Checkpoint, checkpoint.
		
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			And then suddenly you're walking down a muddy
		
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			lane and there's, there was this, and, and
		
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			you come around a corner and you're in
		
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			a forest and then you smell wood smoke.
		
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			And suddenly I was like, oh my God,
		
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			I looked around and I was in the
		
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			village.
		
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			I was outside the meeting tent, the famous
		
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			tent and the whole thing, you know, being
		
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			an actor myself, the minute that you walk
		
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			onto a set, you take on a role.
		
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			So I was not 21st century Lauren there.
		
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			I was, I was Sara, you know, you
		
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			know, in a tribe of, of all those
		
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			centuries ago.
		
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			And so I, you know, there were the,
		
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			remember the old ladies, you know, one of
		
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			the famous shots that they always have is
		
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			the women who are doing the yarn with
		
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			those kind of, they were there, the women
		
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			with the yarn.
		
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			I'm like, there's the women with the yarn
		
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			and the horses were going past.
		
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			And so they said, look, you won't get
		
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			to speak to anybody on set.
		
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			They're all too busy, but at least you'll
		
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			get a walk around.
		
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			And I was more than satisfied with that.
		
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			But when I, they didn't tell me this,
		
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			but, and I don't know how it happened
		
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			to this day.
		
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			I climbed the steps to the tent where
		
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			all those famous, all those meetings take place.
		
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			And as I turned around, all the bays
		
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			came over, all of them.
		
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			And I'm looking and I said, like this.
		
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			And there's, there's Bamsi, there's, I was like,
		
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			so then Halima, sorry, the, the mother, the
		
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			mother came out.
		
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			Yes.
		
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			And I said, very nice to meet you.
		
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			And she was still in character.
		
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			She was in, obviously they were all in
		
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			there.
		
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			And so I'm looking at this and I'm
		
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			thinking, I am literally an Ertugrul, just taste
		
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			this every second of this.
		
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			And then a deep voice next to me
		
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			said, Assalamualaikum.
		
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			And I, and I remember looking up and
		
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			going, oh my God.
		
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			And you know what my waswas said, my
		
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			personal Shaytan said to me, if you pretend
		
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			to faint, he'll have to catch you.
		
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			And I went, Auzubillah, Auzubillah, Astaghfirullah, Astaghfirullah, because
		
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			I really, you know, and he's so full
		
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			and his voice is so deep.
		
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			So, like I said, I was, I had
		
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			to play a role because that's just how
		
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			Allah has made me.
		
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			And so I said this, I said, Assalamualaikum,
		
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			my dear brothers and sisters, you who are
		
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			changing the vision of modern Islam, I bring
		
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			you greetings from the Western Ummah.
		
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			And in character, they all went, oh Allah.
		
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			There you go.
		
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			Just amazing.
		
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			I actually have a clip because, would you
		
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			like to hear it?
		
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			An exclusive on Greemy Institute social media for
		
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			just you guys.
		
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			So one of the things that was a
		
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			condition of going on was you cannot film
		
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			anything because it will, it will kill the,
		
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			it will kill the feeling for people who
		
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			are yet to watch it, which I totally
		
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			understand.
		
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			But I did whip out my phone and
		
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			do a little bit of, I asked, I
		
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			said, a little bit of audio, maybe I
		
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			can do, they said, fine.
		
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			And I was sitting in the tent with
		
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			the director, watching a screen and thinking, this
		
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			is, this is surreal.
		
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			And then a man sat next to me
		
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			and it was Alton and the, the actor
		
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			who plays Ertugrul just came and sat in
		
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			a chair next to me and I'm like,
		
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			oh God.
		
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			So I just quickly snuck an interview.
		
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			So that's what I'm going to play to
		
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			you now.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Bismillah.
		
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			You speak, you speak English?
		
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			Yeah, I can speak English.
		
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			I don't know.
		
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			Fair enough.
		
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			It's nice to see you.
		
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			Thank you very much.
		
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			You have a very, you have a really
		
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			intensive filming schedule.
		
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			I don't envy it.
		
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			Lauren, I think you've gone on a big
		
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			part in it.
		
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			I wish for you a break, but not
		
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			for us viewers to break.
		
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			Thank you.
		
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			What effect is it having on you as
		
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			an actor?
		
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			How have you grown?
		
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			What does it mean to you to be
		
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			doing a project like this at this time
		
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			in your life?
		
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			It's a very big project.
		
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			And also it's the first time in Turkey.
		
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			It's like, like these big productions, to tell
		
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			the Muslim people in front of them, it's
		
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			very interesting.
		
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			I was very excited when I saw the
		
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			first episodes.
		
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			It was very nice.
		
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			Interesting.
		
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			They did let me take some photos.
		
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			So there's photos of me on the set.
		
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			So.
		
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			That was absolutely amazing.
		
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			Honestly, I felt like I was there.
		
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			It's crazy, but.
		
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			You know, the, the, the Mongols in the
		
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			woods, I went up to the woods and
		
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			it was one of the most terrifying, genuinely
		
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			terrifying experience in my life.
		
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			So, yeah, do take a look at that
		
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			guys.
		
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			Alhamdulillah.
		
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			It was, it was a really incredible experience.
		
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			So, so what happened there?
		
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			Did you actually meet anybody there or was
		
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			that just the music?
		
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			Yeah, well, they, they, they didn't, I didn't
		
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			meet the, what was his name?
		
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			But they drove me to another part of
		
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			the set, because if you watch Ertugrul, you
		
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			watch so many episodes and you realize there's
		
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			only three places.
		
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			There's like a patch of woods, right?
		
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			And there's, there's a place where the horses
		
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			always go around and you start to recognize
		
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			it.
		
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			So they said, come to our other set.
		
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			We're filming a very grisly scene right up
		
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			in, in the woods, in the hillside.
		
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			And so I'm walking and there's a smell
		
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			of incense.
		
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			There were actors playing the Mongol hordes and
		
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			they looked at me and sharpened their knives
		
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			and a shiver went through me.
		
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			Like it was, it was very visceral and
		
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			frightening.
		
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			Wow.
		
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			Are you going to play something now?
		
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			Did you say?
		
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			No, no, no.
		
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			That's fine.
		
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			So that's on your YouTube page as well.
		
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			Yeah, exactly.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			No, that's fantastic.
		
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			Excellent.
		
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			Thank you.
		
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			I would really appreciate sharing that with us.
		
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			Honestly, I didn't know that, you know, we'd
		
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			get a treat like that today.