Khalil Hendricks – Islamic Theory of Spirituality Personality

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The speakers discuss the importance of understanding personalities and finding similarities in Islam. They also discuss the importance of good character and positive experiences in achieving goals. The speakers stress the importance of pursuing good and restraining from evil, pursuing experiences to fill a man's mind, and finding one's path within a narrow range of values. They also stress the importance of learning and finding a way to fit in with a social group and finding one's path within a narrow range of values.

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			Okay.
		
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			It gives me great pleasure
		
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			on on behalf of the UCT MSA
		
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			to welcome you to the 5th talk
		
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			of Islamic 2020. As you'll know, we have
		
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			touched on various topics from the essence of
		
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			Islam,
		
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			Islam as a way of life, as well
		
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			as women in Islam. But today, we are
		
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			looking at a different topic,
		
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			which looks at the concept of spiritual
		
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			personality.
		
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			The context of this talk is quite interesting.
		
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			You know? What is what is this concept
		
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			of being in a Muslim community? I think
		
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			one of the big challenges of the tertiary
		
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			space is that for many of us,
		
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			we may
		
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			belong to Islam, but may not necessarily feel
		
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			part of the Muslim community. And what are
		
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			the various dynamics that influence and shape that?
		
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			And that will be some of the things
		
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			that we will look at,
		
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			in today's talk.
		
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			We have with us
		
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			a person who does not need any introduction,
		
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			Malena Khalil Hendricks.
		
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			He's the director of the Mizani Institute
		
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			as well as the Inlight Foundation,
		
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			and he's also the principal of Goodtree
		
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			Primary and soon to be high school.
		
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			So.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			Go back a long way
		
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			since high school days, so good to be
		
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			here.
		
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			To all of you.
		
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			The topic today is entitled souls assorted
		
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			and Islamic theory of spiritual personality.
		
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			So
		
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			the
		
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			topic is based on an article by Yacinth
		
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			Institute.
		
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			And if you have not heard about about
		
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			them before, I would strongly suggest that you,
		
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			follow them and follow their works.
		
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			I think they are
		
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			amongst the leading voices in dealing with,
		
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			contemporary issues that are facing Muslims.
		
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			And,
		
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			this article was written by Zohair Abdul Rahman
		
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			and Nazir Khan, and I'm simply just,
		
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			presenting,
		
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			their work,
		
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			to you and just maybe adding some
		
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			reflections,
		
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			from my own side.
		
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			I think first of all, the benefit of
		
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			doing this,
		
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			study is that
		
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			when we understand
		
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			people's personality,
		
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			it helps us to
		
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			navigate relationships.
		
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			And that could be someone as close to
		
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			you as your your parents or your siblings
		
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			or your your spouse or someone else in
		
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			the community. As you have a deeper understanding
		
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			of variant personalities,
		
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			it gives you that ability to basically navigate
		
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			those relationships.
		
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			So this is a an interesting approach, and
		
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			we can begin
		
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			with what is personality.
		
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			And,
		
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			we can define it as a a a
		
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			construct to account for the variance
		
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			in people's behavior, in people's cognition,
		
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			in people's habits. And
		
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			it's it's it's a
		
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			I mean, I often find it I find
		
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			it
		
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			I find it,
		
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			we we we can't always in a sense,
		
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			the a human being is quite a complex
		
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			individual.
		
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			And
		
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			someone might question how can you kind of
		
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			box human beings into
		
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			into 4 blocks or 6 blocks or 16
		
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			blocks as we have the different personality types.
		
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			I think a useful approach,
		
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			when you think about personalities is to think
		
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			of it as a map.
		
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			A map gives you the general indication of
		
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			where something is,
		
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			what the altitude is, but it doesn't account
		
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			for all the rich detail. So I think
		
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			for purse when you say personalities, it's more
		
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			an indicator
		
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			rather than a kind of very precise definition,
		
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			in terms of our our approach.
		
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			And
		
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			it is a way to understand why people
		
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			behave differently, why do people think differently, why
		
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			do people not all agree. And the prophet
		
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			says in the beautiful hadith
		
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			that
		
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			that souls are like an army
		
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			that has taken a a formation, like an
		
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			army that has come together.
		
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			Those souls that recognize each other, that find
		
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			similarities between each other, they
		
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			they come together.
		
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			And those souls who don't what is similar,
		
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			who don't,
		
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			who don't see eye to eye, who don't
		
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			connect,
		
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			they
		
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			they repel each other. And this is,
		
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			an interesting reflection from the prophet
		
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			that you will incline to certain personalities that
		
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			share something with you. And you might feel
		
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			distant from others who you don't quite get
		
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			along with or you don't quite share their
		
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			same personality traits.
		
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			And in this brutal hadith, I think we
		
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			from the out out here, I want to
		
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			distinguish between personality
		
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			and character. And I think the distinction is
		
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			quite important. The prophet says in the hadith
		
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			The prophet
		
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			has created Adam
		
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			from a a a handful that he has
		
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			taken from the the earth.
		
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			The children of Adam come and they come
		
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			in different colors.
		
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			Some of them are Ahmed or red, some
		
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			are Abiad, some are Aswad, some are white,
		
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			and some are black, referring to the the
		
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			physical makeup.
		
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			That
		
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			has different physical makeup, so that's number 1.
		
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			And between those diff different physical characteristics,
		
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			do you have
		
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			is someone who is easygoing,
		
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			someone who is, like, lenient and soft, and
		
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			is someone who is hard and rough,
		
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			maybe hard headed even.
		
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			And that's referring to the different personality types.
		
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			And then the third thing is
		
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			And the third thing is that amongst these
		
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			people of Adam, there are those who
		
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			are means something which is dirty or filthy,
		
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			and means something which is good and beautiful
		
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			and pure. And this last part here refers
		
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			to the.
		
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			So if you can take this prophetic breakdown
		
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			of the,
		
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			the children of Adam, all of us are
		
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			different forms physically,
		
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			and we have different character
		
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			characteristics.
		
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			And the third thing is that there's a
		
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			different a
		
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			different character.
		
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			So we can separate between personality
		
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			versus character.
		
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			That everybody
		
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			acts according to their shakila, and the word
		
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			shakila in Arabic actually means shape. So shakila
		
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			is the way someone has been shaped, some
		
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			of the way someone
		
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			inclines their, like, natural disposition.
		
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			Despite the fact that
		
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			everybody acts according to their natural disposition personality
		
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			inclination,
		
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			your lord is most knowledgeable
		
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			by the ones who are
		
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			most guided in terms of their the path
		
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			they have taken.
		
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			So in this there is recognition that everybody
		
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			has different shackle,
		
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			a different genetic code, a different nurture.
		
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			However,
		
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			with that genetic code, with that nurture, with
		
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			that personality,
		
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			there is still a choice on the path
		
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			someone walks,
		
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			the path someone takes, and Allah knows best
		
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			about that path.
		
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			So
		
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			if we can separate these two concept from
		
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			the outset that personality itself in Islam is
		
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			something which is value neutral.
		
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			It's something which doesn't have
		
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			necessarily by itself an advantage or disadvantage.
		
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			In certain situations, a certain personality might shine
		
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			but in different
		
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			situation
		
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			it might fail
		
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			and vice versa.
		
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			And Allah says about that Allah will not
		
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			place a burden on anyone
		
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			more than they can
		
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			bear. That Allah,
		
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			despite your
		
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			personality
		
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			or with your personality,
		
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			Allah doesn't bear doesn't lay that personality with
		
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			more than it can
		
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			can be.
		
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			And then oh, I think I made a
		
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			mistake here. The second one shouldn't be personality
		
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			is value laden. The second one should read
		
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			akhlaq
		
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			or character. So the second one on the
		
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			right should not be personality, should read character
		
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			is something which is value laden,
		
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			which means that there is a value,
		
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			a
		
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			a virtue attached to it. The prophet
		
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			says I have been sent only sent to
		
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			perfect akhlaq.
		
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			And therefore, we separate between personality
		
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			and between character.
		
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			That no matter what personality disposition
		
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			type you find yourself in,
		
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			there is still the demand from Islam to
		
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			practice good character.
		
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			And therefore, in reading
		
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			about personality and Islam, we could say that
		
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			Islam is more concerned about the prescription of
		
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			good character
		
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			than the description of people's personality.
		
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			Whereas we look at kind of a western
		
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			psychological
		
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			model,
		
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			there is more focus on description
		
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			and understanding
		
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			of people's
		
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			personalities
		
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			as opposed to rectification of character.
		
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			Whereas in the Islamic world, it is,
		
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			even within the the Quranic,
		
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			worldview, within the the prophetic guidelines, there are
		
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			references to personality, but the all the the
		
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			strongest focus is actually on on character.
		
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			And and in a sense,
		
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			it makes
		
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			Islam
		
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			very
		
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			it is in a sense prescriptive.
		
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			It's in a sense it pushes people towards
		
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			a certain direction
		
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			as opposed to understanding and just saying, I
		
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			understand and it is how it is and
		
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			and it ends there.
		
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			It's it's a much more prescriptive,
		
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			approach that Islam uses in in general.
		
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			And
		
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			because this prescriptive
		
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			the the the path to salvation is there
		
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			for each personality.
		
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			And he has a a quote,
		
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			I think this quote comes to Ibn Taymiy
		
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			that Ibn Taymiyyah says, people differ in this
		
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			regard with regard to personalities.
		
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			From amongst people, some people
		
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			find knowledge, even to study easier than zud.
		
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			Zud means when someone is frugal, someone withdraws
		
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			from worldly comforts.
		
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			And some find Zud easier than and
		
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			some find Ibadah
		
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			easier than both of them.
		
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			And what is
		
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			required from Allah
		
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			is that you act according to what you
		
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			are capable of doing.
		
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			And if Allah says
		
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			that you are conscious of Allah
		
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			as you are able to do it.
		
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			So if you can think of
		
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			what Islam demands from you.
		
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			Islam demands a uniform
		
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			approach
		
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			to those things which are compulsory,
		
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			But those things that are compulsory are a
		
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			very
		
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			small
		
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			defined
		
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			set of actions.
		
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			So we'd know that those are compulsory is
		
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			for you to obviously have correct belief, but
		
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			with regard to action,
		
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			it is compulsory for you to testify to
		
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			faith. It is compulsory for you to establish
		
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			prayer 5 times a day. It is compulsory
		
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			for you to fast and to go on
		
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			to go on Hajj and to pay your
		
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			and pay your zakah.
		
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			So in other words, that which is compulsory
		
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			is uniform upon everybody,
		
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			and that's a small set. Then there is
		
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			something which is a much larger set and
		
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			that which is in the realm of good
		
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			action
		
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			and good character.
		
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			And good action and good character is vast
		
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			because the
		
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			the model of good action and good character,
		
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			he himself
		
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			is unattainably
		
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			vast.
		
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			So that vast
		
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			that vast
		
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			spread of good action below that below which
		
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			is compulsory that which is sunnah mustahab,
		
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			People will in that,
		
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			they will find that they tend to find
		
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			certain things easier
		
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			and certain things harder.
		
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			Some people might find prayer and sadah easier.
		
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			Some people might find helping others in in
		
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			charity and need easier. Some people might find
		
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			learning and studying easier. People find different things
		
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			easier. And the way Islam works is that
		
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			you are able to excel
		
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			in those
		
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			areas that you naturally
		
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			inclined to.
		
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			I think it's a very beautiful model that
		
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			Islam presents
		
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			is that there are a limited thing that
		
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			everybody everybody does, and then there are this
		
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			this huge
		
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			vast,
		
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			layer of options that that that that that
		
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			that that you've kind of fit into where
		
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			you where where you find it easy. And
		
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			there are some quotes with regards that the
		
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			prophet
		
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			says that paradise has 8 gates.
		
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			So one of the one gate. There are
		
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			8 gates. 1 of them is called Adrayan.
		
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			1 is one is called the gate of
		
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			of fasting. Why are there 8 gates? Because
		
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			there are different ways to enter paradise. And
		
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			the middle most ways to enter paradise is
		
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			through your parents,
		
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			is to service to your parents. So some
		
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			people might find service to their parents easier.
		
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			It will be the gate of the gate
		
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			of to paradise. Some people might find fasting
		
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			easier or prayer easier. So there are number
		
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			of gates because there are number of personalities
		
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			because there are number of opportunities
		
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			for salvation.
		
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			There's a beautiful quote here when they ask
		
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			Imam Malik, Rahimullah,
		
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			why
		
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			did he focus on circles of knowledge? You
		
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			know, Malik, Rahimullah is a great Muhaddith, a
		
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			great great Faqir. He's the one who established
		
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			the Maliki madhab.
		
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			And I they're asking why do you focus
		
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			on this? Why don't you focus on something
		
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			else and go fight jihad or give charity
		
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			or do something else?
		
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			He replies, he says, certainly, Allah has divided
		
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			good actions
		
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			like he has divided his rizq.
		
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			As Allah has given the rizq to some
		
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			and rizq to others in different amounts, into
		
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			different, degrees, and in different commodities, Allah has
		
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			also divided good actions like that.
		
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			It may be that prayer has been
		
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			facilitated for a person, but fasting hasn't.
		
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			Prayer is easy for 1 person, but fasting
		
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			is not. Another person may have a tendency
		
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			for charity, but not for fasting.
		
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			And he says, I am happy for me
		
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			that Allah has facilitated for me the pursuit
		
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			of of knowledge.
		
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			Then he say he says something really profound
		
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			and important at the end. He says, I
		
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			don't think
		
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			what I am focused on
		
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			is lower than what you are focused on.
		
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			Meaning, what the fact that I am doing
		
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			this and I'm sitting and I'm studying with
		
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			my books, I don't find it lower than
		
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			the fact that you might be fighting in
		
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			the path of Allahu Taal or you might
		
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			be looking after the orphan.
		
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			Rather, I hope that we are both upon
		
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			goodness
		
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			and righteousness.
		
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			A really beautiful, mature understanding
		
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			because sometimes,
		
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			the biggest
		
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			difficulty in a Muslim community
		
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			is not between those who are working and
		
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			those who are not working. It's between those
		
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			who are working trying to say that we
		
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			our work is the most important and the
		
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			most critical, and someone else's work doesn't have
		
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			the same amount of value. And then my
		
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			grasimullah,
		
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			it it it it pinpoints the
		
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			the exact approach of the believer
		
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			is that all work is is important because
		
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			all work is is required and appreciated by
		
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			Allah
		
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			And
		
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			therefore, when one reads the Quran,
		
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			one finds that Allah expresses
		
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			guidance in a number of ways.
		
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			Because the entire Quran is guidance.
		
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			But the expression
		
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			and the manner
		
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			of guidance keeps changing all the time.
		
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			It may be a promise of something good.
		
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			It may be a warning.
		
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			It may be a parable. It may be
		
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			a story. It may be a historical account.
		
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			It may speak about
		
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			consequence.
		
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			There are many ways Allah actually
		
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			speaks about guidance,
		
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			And Allah says about his own guidance.
		
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			We have
		
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			we have diversified
		
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			in this Quran
		
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			for people
		
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			from every type of
		
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			of example and similitude.
		
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			Why have that many?
		
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			It's because the audience is diverse.
		
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			Allah says,
		
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			And we have diversified
		
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			for them in the warnings
		
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			in order that they may have taqwa and
		
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			that perhaps they would would remember.
		
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			So this is
		
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			part of of divine guidance is is
		
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			is catering for the varying personalities.
		
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			I'll just spend the rest of the talk
		
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			focusing on a model
		
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			of personality
		
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			from the Quran, from the hadith, from Islamic
		
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			scholarship.
		
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			And as I am explaining the model,
		
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			I would like you as the audience to
		
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			try to map yourself
		
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			and maybe just, for the sake of an
		
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			exercise,
		
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			map someone close to you.
		
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			Like, think about someone in your household
		
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			perhaps and try to someone who's different from
		
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			you and try to say, okay. I understand
		
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			now why that person has an attitude.
		
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			So as you're going through this make it
		
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			a reflective exercise
		
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			where you're also kind of considering your own
		
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			your own
		
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			situation.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			So,
		
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			ibn Qayim says
		
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			that all human activity
		
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			goes back to 2 fundamental processes.
		
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			So it's going to be kind of, like,
		
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			the high level division.
		
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			The one is going to be the capacity
		
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			to know,
		
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			and number 2 is going to be the
		
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			capacity
		
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			to act.
		
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			The capacity to know, to have
		
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			and the capacity to act, to have to
		
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			have behavior.
		
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			One of the most frequent frequent couplings in
		
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			the Quran
		
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			is those who have iman, those who have
		
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			faith, those who know
		
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			Allah, and those who then follow-up their
		
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			their faith with righteous actions.
		
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			So the so this
		
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			this coupling is is very constant in the
		
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			Quran.
		
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			Then we're going to look at the capacity
		
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			to know,
		
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			and we're going to look at it look
		
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			at it from 2 different perspectives, 2 different
		
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			2 a a division of of how do
		
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			we approach knowledge.
		
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			So when someone
		
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			as a spiritual personality
		
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			approaches knowledge knowing,
		
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			one approach is
		
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			what is termed.
		
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			Is the plural of hal. Halakeifahalukum.
		
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			Hal is a condition.
		
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			Conditions. And
		
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			is to recognize or to know
		
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			someone's condition or someone's experience.
		
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			And
		
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			is an approach
		
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			to
		
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			knowing something
		
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			not really through detailed information,
		
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			not really through injunctions,
		
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			but to know something through experience.
		
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			It is, in a sense, inductive knowledge. It's
		
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			experiential knowledge.
		
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			In Arabic, we could terms
		
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			means to taste something
		
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			or means to have a deeper insight into
		
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			something
		
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			based on one's experience.
		
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			So
		
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			is
		
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			a personality
		
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			type
		
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			within this within this schema.
		
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			Allah says, the prophet says that you should
		
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			you should
		
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			recognize Allah
		
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			in prosperity
		
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			and he will recognize you in times of
		
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			adversity.
		
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			That you should be grateful when when things
		
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			are prosperous. You should reflect on Allah
		
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			when times are good, and he will reflect
		
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			and recognize you when times are hard. It's
		
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			not about detailed knowledge here. It's about a
		
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			feeling and experience of gratitude towards Allah
		
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			The opposite or the other pole of this,
		
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			the other end of this is what we
		
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			call
		
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			means knowledge,
		
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			are judgments,
		
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			rulings.
		
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			So
		
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			is knowing what is right and what is
		
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			wrong
		
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			or knowing
		
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			what should be done,
		
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			knowing how to change something.
		
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			It is in a sense knowledge that has
		
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			practical
		
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			application.
		
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			Is knowledge which is
		
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			reflective and experiential.
		
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			Is knowledge which is which
		
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			is definitive and knowledge which has
		
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			a
		
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			a an action
		
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			value to it.
		
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			It is often deductive in its in its
		
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			approach.
		
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			It it is judgment based. When I say
		
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			judgment, I don't mean a negative,
		
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			pejorative sense judgment. I mean, the general sense,
		
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			it is there to to make a judgment
		
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			within something else right and something is wrong.
		
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			In a sense, we have the idea of
		
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			to to to enjoy that which is good
		
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			and to forbid that which is evil. It's
		
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			a very kind of practical knowledge.
		
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			In Islam, there's often numerical award rewards for
		
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			something. If you give this in charity, you'll
		
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			get 10 times reward. You'll give 700 times
		
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			reward. It's a kind of a practical
		
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			a a practical trade or a practical value
		
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			to action.
		
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			So if you can contrast this as 2
		
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			poles, as 2 opposites
		
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			in terms of how people experience knowledge. So
		
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			if you even think about yourself,
		
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			you might be someone who's on the one
		
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			side who is more lean to
		
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			who wants to experience something positive.
		
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			For experience is the most important thing. You
		
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			you probably like to attend because
		
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			it moves you, because you feel something.
		
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			Or you can think of yourself as a.
		
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			You like to know
		
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			if people start speaking philosophically, you say, like,
		
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			what's the point of this? Because,
		
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			what's the practical value of that? Someone who's
		
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			more towards
		
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			will ask what's the practical value of this?
		
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			How does it help me in my day
		
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			to day? Because it's not it doesn't kind
		
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			of they they can't feel the.
		
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			Somebody but someone who's who's
		
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			who's
		
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			inclined to if
		
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			they get
		
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			detailed,
		
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			knowledge, they kind of unable to
		
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			process it minutiae.
		
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			Like, what's all these detailed things I want
		
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			to feel the bigger picture.
		
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			I want things to make sense to me
		
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			in a bigger in a bigger sense. So
		
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			these are kind of 2 poles within the
		
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			capacity to to know.
		
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			The prophet says
		
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			that knowledge is acquired through study.
		
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			It's a different type of knowledge. The one
		
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			is the let's call the one like a
		
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			heart knowledge, a feeling knowledge, and the one
		
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			is like a mind knowledge,
		
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			an aqul knowledge.
		
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			And
		
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			if we are to map these onto
		
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			existent
		
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			personality
		
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			theories,
		
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			we could map these within the big five,
		
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			personality types. It could link the the
		
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			experiential
		
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			knowledge, could link to what is referred to
		
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			as openness. So in the big five, there
		
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			are 5 categories.
		
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			There are 5 types, and one of them
		
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			is openness. According to you, it will be
		
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			intuition.
		
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			So if you read the description, it gives
		
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			you it gives you a an insight into
		
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			this type of personality.
		
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			According to openness, these include active imagination.
		
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			Someone who's able to
		
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			to create a world in their mind, in
		
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			their imagination that is beyond the physical world.
		
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			Aesthetic sensitivity.
		
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			Someone who's very sensitive towards beauty and to
		
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			sound and to form.
		
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			Attentiveness to inner feelings,
		
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			preference for variety and intellectual curiosity.
		
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			This is a type of of characteristic
		
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			of the person who is more inclined towards.
		
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			As to
		
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			according to the big five,
		
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			personality types, this person will be more aligned
		
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			to conscientiousness
		
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			according to
		
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			more according to to judgment.
		
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			For example, com conscientiousness
		
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			in, comprises 6 dimensions including industriousness,
		
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			orderliness,
		
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			self control,
		
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			responsibility,
		
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			traditionalism,
		
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			and virtue.
		
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			It's about actions, about living right.
		
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			So it's a very different type of of
		
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			personality. And, again, you can try to map
		
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			yourself,
		
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			map someone around you, and think about where
		
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			you fit in according to these 2
		
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			these 2 poles.
		
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			And then Isabel Isabella Myers from the very
		
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			famous, Myers Briggs,
		
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			personality test,
		
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			she speaks about these 2 groups. She shared
		
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			the judging types which is the Elul Akam,
		
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			the one on the right.
		
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			The the judging types believe that life should
		
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			be ruled
		
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			and decided. Why? Because the judging types want
		
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			to act. They want practical knowledge. They want
		
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			to set things right. It should be world
		
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			and decided.
		
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			While the perceptive
		
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			types regard life as something to be experienced
		
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			and understood.
		
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			In other words, you're a passenger in life
		
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			and you are
		
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			absorbing the experiences of life and you want
		
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			to understand and reflect on life.
		
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			Thus, judging types like to settle things or
		
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			at least have things settle
		
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			settled. They're kind of definitive beings.
		
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			Whereas perceptive types, which is the one on
		
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			the left,
		
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			prefer to keep their plans and opinions
		
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			as open as possible.
		
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			So that no valuable experience or enlightenment
		
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			will be missed.
		
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			So it's a beautiful
		
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			contrast between the between the two types.
		
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			While there are
		
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			positive aspects to both, if we speak about
		
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			the positive aspects on the one on the
		
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			left, that person likes to reflect and likes
		
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			to perhaps be in a state of remembrance,
		
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			likes to connect to the names of Allah,
		
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			likes to
		
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			experience things, learn from experience. The person on
		
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			the right likes to know what the truth
		
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			is, wants to set society right, wants to
		
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			wants to uplift people in a practical way,
		
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			in a in a real fashion.
		
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			Both of them have their positive ends.
		
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			At the same time, the converse of each
		
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			of them,
		
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			if taken to the extreme,
		
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			hold potential dangers.
		
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			And for someone who is in because
		
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			they are very
		
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			experienced focused,
		
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			then often not too concerned about the boundaries
		
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			of the law.
		
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			Because experience counts,
		
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			and therefore, they may find themselves within blameworthy
		
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			innovation
		
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			because they are seeking spiritual experiences.
		
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			I mean, there have been spiritual groups in
		
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			Islam
		
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			which would legitimize even the consumption of alcohol
		
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			because it would assist
		
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			or it can enhance
		
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			a spiritual experience.
		
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			So this is this is this is an
		
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			example
		
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			of of a take been taken too far.
		
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			People of ex
		
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			who are experience focus
		
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			are often and might sound contradictory, but they're
		
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			often also
		
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			people who are in an addiction cycle.
		
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			They often have they might have sexual addiction
		
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			or they might have drug addiction or substance
		
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			abuse.
		
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			Why? Because the person's personality is inclined towards
		
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			the power of the experience.
		
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			It's a a hedonistic type of
		
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			there's a hedonistic pitfall to it.
		
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			And
		
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			what could happen
		
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			on the negative side
		
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			is that this person could enter a cycle
		
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			of shame.
		
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			Because as they they move towards
		
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			hedonistic
		
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			experiences of maybe sexual experiences or intoxication,
		
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			or they might even kind of be in
		
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			some night club because it gives them an
		
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			experience,
		
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			then they would be guilt and they'll move
		
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			to a religious
		
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			experience again
		
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			because that's giving them a positive religious experience.
		
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			And they might move to a negative experience
		
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			again
		
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			because that gives them a strong experience,
		
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			in terms of sensorially.
		
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			And then they might move again to a
		
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			they feel guilty and back to a religious
		
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			experience. So they cycle between between these 2.
		
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			So therefore, it might seem like a contradiction,
		
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			but it's very easy,
		
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			especially in Cape Town. You could find someone
		
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			who's in the nightclub
		
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			on the weekend and they're in the vehicle
		
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			on the Thursday.
		
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			Why? Because this is there's a there's a
		
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			an inclination towards experience.
		
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			And then in El Al Hakam,
		
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			one of the weaknesses is that
		
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			because the person is very focused on right
		
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			and wrong, that person can become very harsh
		
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			and rigid.
		
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			There's only black and white. There's no gray.
		
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			There's only right and wrong. There's no understanding.
		
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			There's no context.
		
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			This person can also
		
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			overestimate
		
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			the amount of knowledge they possess
		
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			because everything is so cut and dried.
		
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			Once I have studied that chapter of knowledge,
		
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			I have mastered it. There's no more nothing
		
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			more to say. I know all the arguments.
		
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			There's no there's no more discussion.
		
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			This person could also
		
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			employ an ends versus means approach.
		
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			Because they are so action focused,
		
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			they want to rectify something. Sometimes even in
		
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			the means, there might be some compromise.
		
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			And this personality can often lead to sectarianism
		
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			and extreme extremism. My group and only my
		
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			group is right
		
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			and eventually becomes a an extremist approach. So
		
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			both of them have positive aspects and both
		
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			of them have potentially
		
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			negative aspects.
		
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			So it's an interesting,
		
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			breakdown.
		
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			So keep that in mind. So that is
		
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			in terms of knowledge, so we have 2
		
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			main goals, knowledge and action,
		
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			and
		
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			within
		
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			we have
		
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			and and we discuss those 2. Now I'd
		
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			like to I'd like to discuss
		
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			the capacity to act
		
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			the capacity to to act.
		
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			And the capacity to act
		
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			can be broken down as those
		
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			so we are in a separate chapter now.
		
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			So just clear mind for a second. We're
		
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			in a separate a separate,
		
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			breakdown now. We're looking at action.
		
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			So action as well can be 2 categories.
		
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			Number 1 is those who like to who
		
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			are inclined to pursue good,
		
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			pursue virtue. They want to do good. They
		
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			are enthusiastic. They are passionate. They are they
		
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			are full of hope. They want to make
		
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			a change.
		
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			That's one pole of
		
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			of acting.
		
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			And then
		
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			the other end would be those who
		
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			are more inclined to restraint,
		
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			restraining from vice, from evil, from sin.
		
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			Their concern is that they want to transgress
		
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			boundaries.
		
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			I don't want to take a chance with
		
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			this.
		
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			Their focus is a lot on fear.
		
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			So we have these 2
		
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			these 2 poles, and these 2 poles,
		
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			incidentally, are also the 2 wings of the
		
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			believer. The wings of the believer are between
		
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			hope and fear.
		
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			These are the 2 poles with regard to
		
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			action. It's between hope and between fear, between
		
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			doing and between restraining,
		
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			between making a difference, between not causing harm.
		
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			These are the 2 poles that we that
		
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			we can we we we can map action
		
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			upon. And if you look at
		
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			at this beautiful verses, famous verse, Allah says
		
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			indeed, already has been successful, the ones who
		
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			are the permanent
		
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			believers, the
		
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			If you look at verse number 2,
		
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			Those who in their in their prayers, they
		
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			are filled with awe.
		
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			So pray something which is something which is
		
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			active, which you
		
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			do. So, therefore, it it maps on the
		
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			left hand side. Verse number 3.
		
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			And those who are from false idle speech
		
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			they are averse to it
		
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			and you can see verse number 3 is
		
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			about restraint
		
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			restraining yourself from that which is false and
		
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			that which is distracting
		
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			and in verse number 4 goes back
		
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			those who for their purity or their charity
		
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			follow
		
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			They they act
		
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			for purity and for charity.
		
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			Again, it's an action. It's something which you
		
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			do. It maps on the left. Again, we
		
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			go to verse number 5.
		
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			Those who for their privates, they are their
		
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			private parts, they are.
		
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			They preserve them.
		
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			Again, there's restraint.
		
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			So beautifully in this aya, the are
		
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			described this ayaat, the
		
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			are described by a balance
		
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			of pursuing good
		
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			as well as restraining
		
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			from vice.
		
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			And therefore, you find that a spiritual personality
		
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			will can incline towards
		
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			more towards pursuing good or can incline more
		
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			towards
		
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			restraining from from from from
		
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			vice.
		
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			And then
		
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			in a sense, we we we could map
		
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			these 2 poles,
		
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			pursuing good to the idea of bir,
		
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			righteousness,
		
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			to do what is good.
		
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			And the other pole from Taqwa, because Taqwa
		
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			is about caution.
		
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			Taqwa has been described, I think, the I
		
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			might be wrong. We describes taqwa as a
		
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			path that is filled with foot with thorns.
		
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			And taqwa is to walk carefully so you
		
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			don't hurt yourself on the thorns. So it's
		
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			a caution, a restraint. So it's and taqwa
		
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			can be can be described as 2 poles
		
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			of of action.
		
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			And Bir is Taqwa because these two together
		
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			makes good action of the of the believer.
		
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			And Ibn Khayim then also speaks about sabr,
		
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			but he frames sabr
		
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			on both
		
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			poles. For example, one definition of sabr is
		
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			the willpower
		
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			necessary to act forthrightly in the world, is
		
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			the words of Ibn Khaim.
		
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			The other pole of of sabr is the
		
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			willpower
		
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			necessary to abstain from evil and vice. These
		
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			are both types of.
		
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			The one is to act positively and the
		
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			one is to have restraint.
		
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			And then says
		
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			says,
		
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			and some people
		
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			Moderna, we we can't hear you, Moderna.
		
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			Sorry about that. I think Molina's screen is
		
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			actually,
		
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			frozen. So we'll just try and get Molina
		
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			back on the line.
		
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			Just give us a few moments.
		
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			Well, then are you there?
		
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			I I I lost power here,
		
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			but I
		
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			am Okay. We did sufficiently.
		
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			Shukran, thank you. Are you able to hear
		
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			me? Yes, Voluna.
		
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			We we lost you Oh, we lost you.
		
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			We lost you just just when you started
		
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			talking about the quote by, Emil Kaim.
		
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			Okay. I cannot hear you, Shah.
		
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			Okay. So, mister Mila, so
		
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			the quote by Emile Khaim, he says that
		
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			and some people suffer for good deeds that
		
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			brings benefit
		
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			is stronger than they suffer against what brings
		
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			harm.
		
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			Some people are more inclined towards good as
		
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			whereas others might be more inclined towards
		
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			what is.
		
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			The the the the the the the sovereign
		
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			and sovereign we talk about this perseverance actually.
		
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			The perseverance for good deeds is stronger than
		
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			for avoiding that which that which brings harm.
		
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			So they will have the sovereign message to
		
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			do the most difficult and challenging of tasks,
		
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			but they will not have the sovereign that
		
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			averse them from their desires.
		
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			This is something beautiful here at the end,
		
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			and and and and this is,
		
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			I I find this statement
		
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			so true sometimes.
		
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			When many people have the struggle to pray
		
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			the night,
		
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			pray and
		
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			in the heat and in the cold,
		
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			as well as to endure the difficulty
		
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			accompanying fasting. Others, they're able to do. They're
		
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			able to fast. They're able to pray, but
		
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			they can't seem to control themselves in something
		
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			simple as averting their their gaze.
		
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			So is basically saying that some people incline
		
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			towards good doing good, but they struggle with
		
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			restraining from from vice.
		
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			And if we had to map these two
		
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			types
		
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			of knowledge
		
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			on the personality
		
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			theories,
		
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			the left hand side,
		
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			according to both the the the the big
		
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			five and to you would be extra extraversion
		
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			or extraversion, like, the extrovert
		
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			extroversion.
		
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			And and
		
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			and extroversion is is basically when someone has
		
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			a relationship with with an external reality and
		
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			it's a positive relationship. They
		
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			they derive energy. They derive
		
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			satisfaction. They derive purpose from that that external
		
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			relationship.
		
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			This person is always ready to act
		
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			and to react.
		
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			Whereas someone who is restraining from vice
		
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			on the big five personality types, they will
		
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			be more,
		
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			aligned to neuroticism
		
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			and according to Jung, according to introversion.
		
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			And this is a negative relationship with reality.
		
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			There's caution
		
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			and there's initial restraint from
		
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			acting. Neurotogism
		
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			refers to an emotional reactivity to life events.
		
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			The emotional reactivity is generally negative
		
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			in nature such as fear,
		
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			anxiety, and worry.
		
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			And I
		
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			think what's what's important is that
		
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			restaying from vice doesn't mean the person
		
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			does not do.
		
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			It means that the person is focused on
		
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			harm and wrong not being done in their
		
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			life
		
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			or not being done in the public sphere.
		
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			So for example, someone
		
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			might be inclined towards
		
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			building houses and creating water wells and
		
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			and
		
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			and and feeding the orphans, they're on the
		
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			left hand side. But someone who is
		
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			active in removing injustice,
		
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			they'll be more on the right hand side
		
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			because the vice for them,
		
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			removing that vice
		
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			is the chief cause, is the chief motivation.
		
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			It doesn't mean that they're in
		
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			but just that their focus is on on
		
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			removal.
		
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			And then we come into the the weakness
		
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			of each type of action.
		
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			And, again,
		
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			both of these are positive,
		
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			and or both of these have positive aspects.
		
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			The weakness of each one
		
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			is that
		
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			someone who does good
		
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			may often find themselves
		
00:43:27 --> 00:43:28
			unable
		
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			to find the willpower
		
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			to resist
		
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			temptation.
		
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			This could be because they overemphasize
		
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			hope
		
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			over fear.
		
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			They they they have like, it's all about
		
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			hope. So if I do something wrong, it's
		
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			not really that that bad. They even might
		
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			come to a stage where they has a
		
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			a complacency
		
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			about their sins because they think I'm going
		
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			to act later, and I'm going to repent
		
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			later, and my good deeds will definitely wipe
		
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			out my sins.
		
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			Another potential negative about
		
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			a person who's action focused and extroverted
		
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			is that they are heavily dependent on their
		
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			environment
		
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			because they have a positive relationship with an
		
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			external reality.
		
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			That
		
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			gives them energy and gives them purpose.
		
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			But what happens is it could also mean
		
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			that they are much more easily swayed.
		
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			As the environment changes, they also themselves are
		
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			going to
		
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			are going to sway themselves.
		
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			Or they might be more volatile
		
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			because they derive value from outside action, but
		
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			when outside action becomes negative, they themselves become
		
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			become negative.
		
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			And and and Allah warns about this. Allah
		
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			says,
		
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			And there are people who worship Allah upon
		
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			a harp, upon an edge, like a nature
		
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			on an edge.
		
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			If some good strikes them, they feel content,
		
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			and they feel pleased, and they feel fulfilled.
		
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			But if some trial and difficulty,
		
00:45:04 --> 00:45:04
			strikes
		
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			them, that person again turns on the
		
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			they turns off they turn on their face.
		
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			In other words, the person turns away. So
		
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			if something they're acting and there's something good
		
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			is happening, they feel satisfied and content. As
		
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			soon as the trial comes, they turn away
		
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			from it and they leave it off.
		
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			So you find that sometimes you'll find that
		
00:45:25 --> 00:45:26
			someone is an activist,
		
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			and they frame the activism within Islam. And
		
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			then later on, kind of waves off and
		
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			they move on to to something else afterwards.
		
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			Allah says someone who does this
		
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			and leaves Allah's obedience and worship,
		
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			they have lost in this life and lost
		
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			in the in the next life.
		
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			And in restrain from vice,
		
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			what are the negatives?
		
00:45:50 --> 00:45:51
			If fear dominates,
		
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			it can result in
		
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			a very strict,
		
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			harsh, and potentially violent approach to establishing justice
		
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			on earth.
		
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			And they can often have an adversarial
		
00:46:05 --> 00:46:07
			relationship with the Muslim community. In other words,
		
00:46:07 --> 00:46:10
			because they are constantly trying to remove harm,
		
00:46:11 --> 00:46:13
			they also start removing harm in everybody
		
00:46:14 --> 00:46:15
			else. Because everybody has some negativity,
		
00:46:16 --> 00:46:18
			and they focus on removing harm in everybody
		
00:46:18 --> 00:46:20
			else, and that creates a problem with the
		
00:46:20 --> 00:46:21
			Muslim community.
		
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			And
		
00:46:23 --> 00:46:24
			we have
		
00:46:24 --> 00:46:26
			people like that in our community.
		
00:46:26 --> 00:46:28
			And then also on a personal level,
		
00:46:29 --> 00:46:30
			their extreme
		
00:46:31 --> 00:46:32
			need to restrain themselves
		
00:46:33 --> 00:46:34
			can result in a lot
		
00:46:34 --> 00:46:36
			of personal anxiety.
		
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			It's not even like it's OCD behavior because
		
00:46:38 --> 00:46:40
			I don't do something wrong. I'll do it
		
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			10 times over because that's where I focus.
		
00:46:43 --> 00:46:44
			And they
		
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			if they slip up and they and they
		
00:46:47 --> 00:46:48
			and they fall prey to sin,
		
00:46:48 --> 00:46:51
			it can also paralyze them. The shame and
		
00:46:51 --> 00:46:53
			the guilt can become paralyzing towards them.
		
00:46:53 --> 00:46:56
			And they can start loathing themselves, loathing, and
		
00:46:56 --> 00:46:59
			they can disliking themselves and feeling inadequate before
		
00:46:59 --> 00:47:02
			before Allahu Ta'ala. And, eventually, they might even
		
00:47:02 --> 00:47:03
			develop negative thoughts towards
		
00:47:04 --> 00:47:05
			towards Allahu Ta'ala.
		
00:47:06 --> 00:47:08
			And also on the negative part might also
		
00:47:08 --> 00:47:10
			result in cowardice as well.
		
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			And, the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam is telling
		
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			to our was all of my inya'ud to
		
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			be coming in.
		
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			Oh, Allah. I I seek protection from harm,
		
00:47:20 --> 00:47:21
			from anxiety,
		
00:47:21 --> 00:47:22
			and depression.
		
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			These things I'm we're mentioning here.
		
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			And I seek
		
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			refuge from incapacitation and I from laziness.
		
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			And and the prophet is is
		
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			seeking protection from these potential negative behaviors.
		
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			So those are the those are the
		
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			the 2 poles. So we can think of
		
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			the 2 poles.
		
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			The one is the capacity to know, and
		
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			the one is the capacity to
		
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			act. And then each of them have 2
		
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			coming down, which is
		
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			on the left hand side, and
		
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			And then the other one, capacity to act
		
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			as to do good and to stay away
		
00:48:01 --> 00:48:03
			from evil. So if you do it mathematically,
		
00:48:03 --> 00:48:05
			if you if you make all the combinations,
		
00:48:06 --> 00:48:08
			you come up with 4 types of
		
00:48:08 --> 00:48:09
			personalities.
		
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			So So here's the fun part here. You
		
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			can start thinking about where you are or
		
00:48:13 --> 00:48:15
			what you think you are.
		
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			So the first one
		
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			is
		
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			combining someone who is focused on,
		
00:48:25 --> 00:48:27
			who's focused on knowing what is right, what
		
00:48:27 --> 00:48:29
			is wrong, knowing what needs to be done
		
00:48:29 --> 00:48:30
			to set things right,
		
00:48:31 --> 00:48:31
			knowing,
		
00:48:33 --> 00:48:34
			judgments, knowing laws.
		
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			If you combine that person
		
00:48:39 --> 00:48:40
			with the
		
00:48:40 --> 00:48:43
			the capacity to act in terms of pursuing
		
00:48:43 --> 00:48:44
			goodness.
		
00:48:44 --> 00:48:46
			This person knows what needs to be done
		
00:48:47 --> 00:48:48
			and knows what needs to be said right
		
00:48:48 --> 00:48:51
			and then acts and pursues this goodness. You
		
00:48:51 --> 00:48:53
			have a personality type which is the author
		
00:48:53 --> 00:48:56
			calls or the authors call the hand of
		
00:48:56 --> 00:48:57
			power.
		
00:48:59 --> 00:49:01
			And they mentioned here, when a person combines
		
00:49:01 --> 00:49:01
			judgment,
		
00:49:02 --> 00:49:03
			which is the with
		
00:49:04 --> 00:49:05
			action, pursuing goodness,
		
00:49:06 --> 00:49:07
			His spiritual
		
00:49:08 --> 00:49:09
			passion for positive
		
00:49:09 --> 00:49:11
			action emerges with the judgment
		
00:49:11 --> 00:49:13
			to produce a practical
		
00:49:14 --> 00:49:17
			solution focused approach to doing good in the
		
00:49:17 --> 00:49:17
			world.
		
00:49:18 --> 00:49:19
			They are they know what is right. They
		
00:49:19 --> 00:49:21
			know what is wrong, and they are inclined
		
00:49:21 --> 00:49:22
			to act positively,
		
00:49:23 --> 00:49:25
			and, therefore, they're very positive. They're very focused.
		
00:49:25 --> 00:49:26
			They're going to make a
		
00:49:27 --> 00:49:28
			change. And they tend to maximize
		
00:49:29 --> 00:49:31
			benefit for those who are
		
00:49:31 --> 00:49:32
			around them.
		
00:49:32 --> 00:49:34
			So perhaps you are a hand of power
		
00:49:34 --> 00:49:35
			type of person.
		
00:49:36 --> 00:49:37
			The author calls an example. You don't have
		
00:49:37 --> 00:49:39
			to agree with the example, but it's interesting
		
00:49:40 --> 00:49:40
			kind of mapping.
		
00:49:41 --> 00:49:42
			The the the
		
00:49:43 --> 00:49:45
			the author authors mentioned that an example of
		
00:49:45 --> 00:49:46
			this could possibly be.
		
00:49:49 --> 00:49:52
			He is known for his incredible passion in
		
00:49:52 --> 00:49:53
			serving the truth
		
00:49:53 --> 00:49:54
			and performing unmatched
		
00:49:55 --> 00:49:56
			feats of
		
00:49:56 --> 00:49:57
			of virtue.
		
00:49:58 --> 00:49:59
			Has
		
00:49:59 --> 00:50:02
			has a very difficult life
		
00:50:02 --> 00:50:04
			and a life that is
		
00:50:04 --> 00:50:07
			always trying to set things right within the.
		
00:50:08 --> 00:50:09
			It's not a life where he sits back
		
00:50:09 --> 00:50:10
			and
		
00:50:10 --> 00:50:12
			he's disturbed these things.
		
00:50:12 --> 00:50:14
			He's he's he's out there on the back
		
00:50:14 --> 00:50:16
			of the time to set things right.
		
00:50:17 --> 00:50:17
			And
		
00:50:19 --> 00:50:22
			that's why when when when Othmane Nurul Anu
		
00:50:22 --> 00:50:23
			was killed,
		
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			Anu wanted to take the reins of leadership
		
00:50:25 --> 00:50:27
			work because he wants to set things right
		
00:50:27 --> 00:50:29
			because this is this could be construed as
		
00:50:29 --> 00:50:31
			his personality type.
		
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			And according to Ali Rodolano, there's a a
		
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			saying he says, opportunity passes as quickly as
		
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			clouds.
		
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			So make use of opportunities for for good.
		
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			So this is the first one. It's called
		
00:50:42 --> 00:50:43
			the hand of power.
		
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			The next one is if we keep that
		
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			same animal,
		
00:50:49 --> 00:50:50
			that practical focused knowledge,
		
00:50:51 --> 00:50:53
			and we combine it with restraining
		
00:50:54 --> 00:50:55
			from vice.
		
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			We call this the voice of justice because
		
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			this voice wants to wants to prevent any
		
00:51:00 --> 00:51:02
			any harm, any injustice.
		
00:51:03 --> 00:51:05
			So the auto auto mentions here. When judgment
		
00:51:06 --> 00:51:08
			merges with restraint results in judgment
		
00:51:10 --> 00:51:11
			This results in judgment concern
		
00:51:12 --> 00:51:15
			concerning evil. So this person is focused on
		
00:51:15 --> 00:51:17
			judging and removing evils.
		
00:51:17 --> 00:51:20
			This personality type is powerfully motivated to eradicate
		
00:51:21 --> 00:51:21
			injustice,
		
00:51:22 --> 00:51:22
			immorality,
		
00:51:23 --> 00:51:25
			and falsehood. Again, the the focus on on
		
00:51:25 --> 00:51:27
			eradication of removal.
		
00:51:29 --> 00:51:31
			This is this personality is best,
		
00:51:31 --> 00:51:34
			is that which best typifies the prophetic saying
		
00:51:34 --> 00:51:36
			that the most virtuous struggle that the greatest
		
00:51:36 --> 00:51:37
			jihad actually
		
00:51:38 --> 00:51:40
			is a 2 words spoken in the face
		
00:51:40 --> 00:51:41
			of a tyrant.
		
00:51:41 --> 00:51:43
			Because the person has knowledge of what is
		
00:51:43 --> 00:51:45
			right and wrong, and the person's actually is
		
00:51:45 --> 00:51:47
			there towards removal,
		
00:51:47 --> 00:51:49
			restraint, removal of of injustice.
		
00:51:50 --> 00:51:52
			Also, I mentioned someone who comes to mind
		
00:51:54 --> 00:51:54
			is
		
00:51:55 --> 00:51:55
			is
		
00:51:56 --> 00:51:57
			that he's
		
00:51:57 --> 00:51:59
			has a Omar is known for his personal
		
00:51:59 --> 00:52:00
			taqwa.
		
00:52:01 --> 00:52:04
			Omar is known for for removing harm. He's
		
00:52:04 --> 00:52:06
			even been known for removing harm in terms
		
00:52:06 --> 00:52:07
			of evening the bricks
		
00:52:07 --> 00:52:09
			so that the donkeys won't trip.
		
00:52:10 --> 00:52:11
			He's even evening in the park so that
		
00:52:11 --> 00:52:13
			the animals won't trip.
		
00:52:15 --> 00:52:17
			His relentless commitment to eradicating evil and opposing
		
00:52:17 --> 00:52:19
			injustice has been noted by all of those
		
00:52:19 --> 00:52:21
			who have studied his his life.
		
00:52:22 --> 00:52:24
			He announces Islam open in front of the.
		
00:52:25 --> 00:52:26
			He condemned the transgressions.
		
00:52:28 --> 00:52:30
			Even when when one of his governors,
		
00:52:31 --> 00:52:35
			abused a Christian peasant, peasant, he had
		
00:52:35 --> 00:52:36
			he had that son of the governor, the
		
00:52:36 --> 00:52:38
			governor, the son of the governor. He had
		
00:52:38 --> 00:52:40
			that son of the governor governor,
		
00:52:41 --> 00:52:41
			punished.
		
00:52:42 --> 00:52:44
			Why? Because the idea is to remove any
		
00:52:44 --> 00:52:45
			any injustice.
		
00:52:46 --> 00:52:47
			And,
		
00:52:49 --> 00:52:50
			in fact, if you think about
		
00:52:52 --> 00:52:52
			about
		
00:52:53 --> 00:52:55
			the one who compiled the Quran, we always
		
00:52:55 --> 00:52:56
			think about
		
00:52:57 --> 00:52:59
			because the first Quran was compiled on.
		
00:53:00 --> 00:53:01
			But the the
		
00:53:02 --> 00:53:04
			real initiator of that was
		
00:53:05 --> 00:53:08
			because why he had a fear of something
		
00:53:08 --> 00:53:09
			going wrong with the Quran.
		
00:53:09 --> 00:53:11
			There was a there was this this fear
		
00:53:11 --> 00:53:13
			of something being changed, and he was the
		
00:53:13 --> 00:53:14
			one that went to
		
00:53:15 --> 00:53:17
			to to standardize or have a standard copy
		
00:53:17 --> 00:53:20
			of the. So this is the the voice
		
00:53:20 --> 00:53:21
			of justice.
		
00:53:21 --> 00:53:23
			Then if we come combine
		
00:53:25 --> 00:53:25
			the
		
00:53:27 --> 00:53:29
			experiential type of knowledge
		
00:53:30 --> 00:53:32
			with doing good, we have a type called
		
00:53:32 --> 00:53:33
			the heart of inspiration.
		
00:53:35 --> 00:53:38
			So a person who approaches knowledge with experience
		
00:53:38 --> 00:53:41
			combined with the behavior of action
		
00:53:41 --> 00:53:43
			this person likes to have experiences,
		
00:53:44 --> 00:53:45
			and they like to act.
		
00:53:46 --> 00:53:47
			Possesses incredible vision,
		
00:53:48 --> 00:53:51
			seeing the path that humanity must collectively tread
		
00:53:51 --> 00:53:54
			in the pursuit of virtue and a better
		
00:53:54 --> 00:53:56
			future. This person is because they're experiential, they're
		
00:53:56 --> 00:53:56
			more reflective,
		
00:53:57 --> 00:53:58
			they're more
		
00:53:58 --> 00:53:59
			conceptual,
		
00:53:59 --> 00:54:01
			they're more about the bigger picture, and they
		
00:54:01 --> 00:54:03
			want to actually have a kind of a
		
00:54:03 --> 00:54:05
			much longer vision.
		
00:54:06 --> 00:54:08
			These are the visionaries that the ummah needs
		
00:54:08 --> 00:54:11
			as its guides and source of continued wisdom,
		
00:54:11 --> 00:54:13
			compassion, and
		
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			and support.
		
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			And the heart of inspiration could be.
		
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			He was the first person to accept Islam.
		
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			He had this vision.
		
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			And and through his vision, he's obviously he's
		
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			freeing slaves. He's he's creating.
		
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			He's releasing and freeing more more Muslims.
		
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			He also had insight to which other Sahaba
		
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			didn't have insight to.
		
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			When the prophet
		
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			says that a slave has been given the
		
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			choice between this world and what is with
		
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			what is with Allah and the slave children,
		
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			which which is with Allah. A Bakr was
		
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			the one who understood that the prophet was
		
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			going to pass away.
		
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			When the prophet passed away, the one that
		
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			had that vision was a Bakr
		
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			He had that vision, that common influence on
		
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			the on the.
		
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			And the last one is the eye of
		
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			vigilance,
		
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			which is someone who knows
		
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			the laws
		
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			and
		
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			who also is inclined towards restraint.
		
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			So this special personality
		
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			unites the caution of restraint with the vision
		
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			and foresight of experiential
		
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			knowledge,
		
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			resulting in unparalleled awareness of the dangers and
		
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			threats to true faith
		
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			and worrisome trends in society.
		
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			There's a focus on heeding warnings, escaping evil,
		
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			and reflecting on the end times
		
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			and the afterlife.
		
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			This person
		
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			knows what is right and what is wrong.
		
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			And, again, their focus here is a lot
		
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			on on removing
		
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			harm and fear and worry. And an example
		
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			of this could be could be Othmani Binyafa.
		
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			Othmani is known as a reflective person.
		
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			Othmani is known as a person who's really
		
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			has lots of higher, of modesty,
		
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			and contemplation.
		
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			Othmani is the one that sat at the
		
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			grave,
		
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			and he he wept at the grave. And
		
00:55:56 --> 00:55:57
			when
		
00:56:01 --> 00:56:02
			the was the
		
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			station of
		
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			the
		
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			of the year after.
		
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			At at the time of the killing of
		
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			Othman when the rebels surrounded the house of
		
00:56:12 --> 00:56:12
			Othman
		
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			and
		
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			they were about to to kill him. And
		
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			the Sahaba came and they came with delegations
		
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			and with armies and said that they are
		
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			willing to defend Othman.
		
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			His concern was that he will not be
		
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			the 1st Muslim
		
00:56:29 --> 00:56:30
			leader
		
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			to be the one that sheds the blood
		
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			of Muslims. He himself would rather die. To
		
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			prevent the shed
		
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			of blood of Muslims,
		
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			he said I would rather die, and he
		
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			sent away all his defenders.
		
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			And they entered his house, and there, they
		
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			killed
		
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			because his focus was about not causing harm
		
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			within the
		
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			within the within the.
		
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			Was, he said to have said, oh, people
		
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			oh, people fear Allah. So fear of Allah
		
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			is the is a great treasure.
		
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			The smartest people is the one who checks
		
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			himself and strives for that which comes after
		
00:57:05 --> 00:57:06
			death
		
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			and gains on the light
		
00:57:08 --> 00:57:09
			of Allah
		
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			light to illuminate his grave. So, again, thinking
		
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			about the year after, acting for the acting
		
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			to remove here. And of man who is
		
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			famously most famous in the whole 4th,
		
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			compiling the standard copies of the most distributed
		
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			in his lifetime again as a response to
		
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			removing removing
		
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			evil and removing
		
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			distortion from any potential distortion that there might
		
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			be to the the divine text. So these
		
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			are the 4.
		
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			The hand of power, the voice of justice,
		
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			and the the heart of inspiration, and the
		
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			You fit in I'll maybe end, and I'll
		
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			just read these
		
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			these three as a reflection.
		
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			The
		
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			hand of power,
		
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			the motif there is I am fueled by
		
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			a passion to change the world.
		
00:58:02 --> 00:58:04
			I am fueled by a passion to change
		
00:58:04 --> 00:58:05
			the world.
		
00:58:05 --> 00:58:07
			The description there is
		
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			individuals with a tremendous passion to fill the
		
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			world with good by focusing on large practical
		
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			steps that make a positive difference.
		
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			Perhaps you are inclined towards that.
		
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			Number 2, the voice of justice. The motif
		
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			is I'm every
		
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			tyrant's worst
		
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			nightmare.
		
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			Description is outspoken individuals devoted to campaigning for
		
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			the rights of others,
		
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			speaking truth to power, and forbidding oppression wherever
		
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			wherever whether it is from the outside or
		
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			within themselves.
		
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			So, again, it's about removing harm both privately
		
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			and and publicly, but doing it in a
		
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			very practical manner.
		
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			Or perhaps you are the heart of inspiration.
		
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			I see a future
		
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			worth striving for.
		
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			So
		
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			experiences
		
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			to imagine a better world. They can be
		
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			strong leaders inspiring others to work towards a
		
00:59:04 --> 00:59:06
			common goal. Go back to the eye of
		
00:59:06 --> 00:59:09
			vigilance. I need I heed the danger lurking
		
00:59:09 --> 00:59:13
			beyond beyond us. Wise and mindful minds worry
		
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			about the harmful trends in the world and
		
00:59:15 --> 00:59:16
			the consequences
		
00:59:16 --> 00:59:18
			of negligence. And if you want to test,
		
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			there is a website.
		
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			You can go to this link, and then
		
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			I have a questionnaire there, And you can
		
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			kind of assess your own personality,
		
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			based on this scheme.
		
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			In conclusion, I I'd like to say that,
		
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			first of all,
		
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			this article, may Allah bless the authors.
		
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			I I really
		
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			benefited tremendously from reading this article, a number
		
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			of times.
		
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			And kind of each time you read it,
		
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			you can gain more insight into it. But
		
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			I think the real benefit for the Muslim
		
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			Ummah is
		
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			the appreciation
		
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			of diversity of personalities and appreciation
		
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			of
		
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			the model of Islam
		
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			that caters for different personalities and provides a
		
01:00:05 --> 01:00:06
			path
		
01:00:06 --> 01:00:09
			of goodness and salvation for each personality type.
		
01:00:10 --> 01:00:13
			I think that's the one profound benefit,
		
01:00:13 --> 01:00:14
			of the article.
		
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			And I think it needs to be studied
		
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			further and needs to be reflected on
		
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			further as well. The second benefit is that
		
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			on a personal level, as you kind of
		
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			find where you belong and where you map
		
01:00:27 --> 01:00:27
			yourself,
		
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			it highlights
		
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			what are perhaps your personality's
		
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			kind of inclinations,
		
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			but also what are your personality's weaknesses.
		
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			And it helps to kind of understand your
		
01:00:40 --> 01:00:44
			own self and therefore kind of be proactive
		
01:00:44 --> 01:00:44
			about
		
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			where you find yourself.
		
01:00:46 --> 01:00:49
			So it's a beautiful article, and, may Allah
		
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			bless and reward the authors immensely. And may
		
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			Allah bless and protect and reward all of
		
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			you for being part of this lesson.
		
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			And,
		
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			please keep us in your eyes. I'll hand
		
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			over to,
		
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			my brother.
		
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			We say to to.
		
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			Really wonderful presentation.
		
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			Would you be able to take a few
		
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			questions?
		
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			I can maybe I don't know I don't
		
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			know if I have any answers, but I
		
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			can take questions.
		
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			Can one be both
		
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			Maurifil Ahwell and
		
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			Imil Akam?
		
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			Yeah. So so, again, I think these are
		
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			these are basically spectrums.
		
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			So I think that all of us map
		
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			somewhere on the continuum.
		
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			And I I and I think that,
		
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			one tends to kinda find yourself somewhere on
		
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			that spectrum.
		
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			And perhaps we could we we we we
		
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			could speculate that the prophet
		
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			is the balance of all of those spectrums.
		
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			So I think definitely you could find yourself
		
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			somewhere in the middle where you're kind of
		
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			inclined towards both. But you do definitely get
		
01:01:59 --> 01:02:02
			individuals, and I've met individuals before and you've
		
01:02:02 --> 01:02:04
			met them before, and inclined towards
		
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			very different and specific
		
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			areas.
		
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			Yeah.
		
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			For for for myself, I like to almost
		
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			think of it as the chessboard analogy in
		
01:02:17 --> 01:02:18
			the sense that,
		
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			the chessboard, there's there's something called,
		
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			Shannon's number, which basically says the number of
		
01:02:26 --> 01:02:29
			different possible chess combinations, and it's like 10
		
01:02:29 --> 01:02:31
			to the power of 40. So there's there's
		
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			so many different,
		
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			chess combinations. But he makes the argument that
		
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			even though, there's so many different options in
		
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			the chess board,
		
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			you can't move a pawn backwards. You can't
		
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			move the the knight straight, and you can't
		
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			move the rook diagonally.
		
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			In the and and the same sense with
		
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			Islam that,
		
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			even though there's enormous there's an ocean of
		
01:02:50 --> 01:02:51
			diversity as you mentioned,
		
01:02:52 --> 01:02:54
			but they are just core tenets of our
		
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			faith that just can can never change, and
		
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			that's sort of like our foundation,
		
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			sense. And we should celebrate that diversity,
		
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			rather than just thinking that our personality
		
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			is abused anyway.
		
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			I think that's the link to that is
		
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			is that is that when one studies,
		
01:03:13 --> 01:03:14
			what is
		
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			incumbent upon every everybody,
		
01:03:18 --> 01:03:20
			that list is very limited.
		
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			And if one side is what is prohibited
		
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			for everybody, that list is also limited. And
		
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			the space in the middle is
		
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			the
		
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			is made for
		
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			you. Find your find your path within it.
		
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			And the path within it there are many.
		
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			And I think I what I need to
		
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			mention is that is that one benefit from
		
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			the article that always comes to mind is
		
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			that don't compare yourself to a benchmark that
		
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			doesn't suit you.
		
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			Because sometimes
		
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			you may
		
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			think, I'm terrible that,
		
01:03:48 --> 01:03:50
			I'm never gonna make it. I'm gonna make
		
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			it. I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna make
		
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			it. I'm gonna make it to be
		
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			how am I ever going to be saved?
		
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			But perhaps you you that you struggle in
		
01:03:57 --> 01:03:59
			life, and it's not excusable, but you struggle
		
01:03:59 --> 01:04:01
			in life, but your salvation maybe is in
		
01:04:01 --> 01:04:02
			doing something else,
		
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			is in studying or learning your charity.
		
01:04:05 --> 01:04:06
			So so
		
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			in a sense,
		
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			focus on what you're good at,
		
01:04:11 --> 01:04:13
			and pray Allah accepts that.
		
01:04:16 --> 01:04:18
			And then, yeah, another question, Molina, is how
		
01:04:18 --> 01:04:20
			can we as as an as a Muslim
		
01:04:20 --> 01:04:22
			community on campus,
		
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			embody these ideas and become more inclusive?
		
01:04:27 --> 01:04:29
			I think don't feel that they in a
		
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			sort of outside
		
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			of an elite group. So so my understanding
		
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			will probably affect my answer,
		
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			as these things are.
		
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			But I I I think that
		
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			a lot of it starts with knowledge.
		
01:04:43 --> 01:04:45
			A lot of it starts with understanding.
		
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			Is that I I think especially students on
		
01:04:48 --> 01:04:48
			campus,
		
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			that I I generally refer to the Islam
		
01:04:52 --> 01:04:55
			that you receive at when you were, like,
		
01:04:55 --> 01:04:57
			8, 9, 10 years old as your starter
		
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			pack.
		
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			And your starter pack Islam doesn't suffice for
		
01:05:00 --> 01:05:02
			the complexity complexity of the modern world, that
		
01:05:02 --> 01:05:04
			you really need to kind of delve and
		
01:05:04 --> 01:05:06
			need to to look and understand.
		
01:05:07 --> 01:05:07
			And
		
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			that process
		
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			is actually a process of comfort.
		
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			Because as one studies further,
		
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			one finds deeper comfort, number 1,
		
01:05:18 --> 01:05:21
			and one finds kind of broader understanding and
		
01:05:21 --> 01:05:24
			appreciation for differences and nuance that I have,
		
01:05:24 --> 01:05:25
			and then you actually find more comfort.
		
01:05:26 --> 01:05:28
			So I I think for students at campuses
		
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			is take your faith seriously
		
01:05:30 --> 01:05:32
			from an intellectual point of view.
		
01:05:33 --> 01:05:34
			It's not just the tick box list that
		
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			you're supposed to do.
		
01:05:36 --> 01:05:38
			It's much deeper and much more and much
		
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			richer than that.
		
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			No.
		
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			And these these events help. These events, these
		
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			talks, these discussions,
		
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			they help deepen the experience.
		
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			And so does that one.
		
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			Yes. Inshallah, we can have many more of
		
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			of these discussions. I wish that Mel and
		
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			I could speak for for longer.
		
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			I really absorbed everything that you said, and
		
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			may Allah bless you and everything that you've
		
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			done. And,
		
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			may we have more opportunities
		
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			to
		
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			learn from your wisdom.
		
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			I I do have a poll that we
		
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			put up for every talk. If the participants
		
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			could just fill out this form, it shouldn't
		
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			take other
		
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			questions to the floors or is
		
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			there one, 2 questions or your time is
		
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			the time loaded?
		
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			There aren't any other questions. Unless there are
		
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			people can send it in the meanwhile. But
		
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			You can also you can also speak. I
		
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			mean, I can allow Yes. You can also
		
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			raise your hand if you would like to
		
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			ask questions.
		
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			Or you can virtual. Yeah. You're virtually not
		
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			too physical.
		
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			Virtual hand. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. You know,
		
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			in Islam, we have a lot of hands
		
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			and with this physical
		
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			metaphorical.
		
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			So,
		
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			yeah, it's definitely the which is, metaphorical.
		
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			Okay. There's.
		
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			Aviva's clapping hands, so I think she's she's
		
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			raising her hand. I think you should allow
		
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			them to unmute, I guess.
		
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			Okay.
		
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			And Dilshad as well.
		
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			Dilshad,
		
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			do you have a question?
		
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			Yes.
		
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			Shukran for a brilliant talk.
		
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			The
		
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			the the the question that bothers is you
		
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			mentioned the Madrasa level
		
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			teaching,
		
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			and at present,
		
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			there's still a lot of change that needs
		
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			to happen at that level because many of
		
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			the students will do that Madrasa.
		
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			And once they get to high school, there's
		
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			not enough time. So there's no follow-up to
		
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			that Madrasa teaching.
		
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			And often
		
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			the studies or your secular studies take precedence,
		
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			and you are stuck with that level of
		
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			major teaching.
		
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			And I think
		
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			that is perhaps even now even that universities
		
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			that students need to tackle that
		
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			issue of getting beyond that majesid
		
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			teaching and finding ways of supplementing
		
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			their knowledge
		
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			in Islam
		
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			to become more comfortable with what we believe
		
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			in and to become comfortable
		
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			being in a mixed group of knowing who
		
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			you are and not compromising
		
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			that which you know
		
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			shouldn't be compromised.
		
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			But you can't do that if you don't
		
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			have
		
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			enough
		
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			or background knowledge
		
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			from before.
		
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			So I'd like to know how do you
		
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			how what would you suggest the the students
		
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			now
		
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			to do
		
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			to change that?
		
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			So so so
		
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			I I I think that,
		
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			that we are, like, really, really blessed in
		
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			Cape Town with regard to opportunity.
		
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			I think nowhere in the country and
		
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			perhaps few places in the world
		
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			could be boast of so many institutes and
		
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			courses and,
		
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			that are available to us. So there is
		
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			no absolutely no excuse in terms of access.
		
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			And now with online access, it's kind of
		
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			even easier now. We have a world who
		
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			can access the world of learning.
		
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			I I I think that,
		
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			the greater problem perhaps is motivation.
		
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			And,
		
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			motivation is difficult to to fix, but motivation
		
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			often comes with with your peer
		
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			group that says
		
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			that the person is on the
		
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			on the the way of his peers.
		
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			So I I think access is there, but
		
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			motivation is the issue. And I think that
		
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			what
		
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			for me, the critical, critical role that the
		
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			MSA plays
		
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			is it creates a social group
		
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			for people to
		
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			expose themselves to a different way of thinking
		
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			and therefore to find that motivation.
		
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			If this doesn't exist, then where do you
		
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			fit in?
		
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			Would where do you fit in? And if
		
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			there's no way if there's no way for
		
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			you to fit in,
		
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			that option is removed.
		
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			But now you're creating a subculture which which
		
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			exists,
		
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			which can fit in there. So I think
		
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			motivation is important, and I think software companionship
		
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			is is important. And then where that access
		
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			comes,
		
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			number 1. And number 2, may maybe just
		
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			reflections now is that is that
		
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			a person should be exposed to that which
		
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			complements your personality.
		
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			So sometimes you may be taken to a
		
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			a class and you're like, really don't enjoy
		
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			it. Or you may be taken to a
		
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			degree, like, what's up with this stuff? Like,
		
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			you know, you must you must go into
		
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			what
		
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			what resonates with you, and I think that's
		
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			part of the journey as well as finding
		
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			that which resonates with with you.
		
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			All of those best.
		
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			Are there any other questions for Malena? You're
		
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			welcome to unmute yourself. I've allowed the audience
		
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			to unmute themselves.
		
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			If there
		
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			are no other questions, again, I'd just like
		
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			to say
		
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			to Melina for for a really wonderful presentation,
		
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			and obviously to the MSA for organizing this
		
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			talk and to the audience for coming.
		
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			This, as you know, is just one component
		
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			of our Islam week, in 2020,
		
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			and we will be having a few more
		
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			events coming up. This evening, we'll be having
		
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			the the hard time, so please join us
		
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			at 8 o'clock. It's the exactly exactly the
		
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			same link. And tomorrow, we will also be
		
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			having another talk. So
		
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			please support us with that.