Khalid Latif – First Steps Essentials of Islam #13

Khalid Latif
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The importance of learning and patient oneself in the spiritual process is emphasized, along with setting goals and creating a consistent schedule of prayer. It is crucial to be mindful of one's thoughts and to set goals for one's life. A buddy program is mentioned, helping people create a schedule and routine, and to embracing their own values and behaviors. upcoming events and accommodations for people are mentioned, along with setting goals and creating a schedule.
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Okay. Should we get started?

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It's not like an off to the left.

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Oh, I can set up the if you

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wanna take a quick minute, and you can

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just introduce yourselves to the people sitting around

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you,

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share your names, how your day was going,

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then we'll get started. I know everyone doesn't

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know everybody else. We're gonna today be going

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we're gonna continue on what we discussed last

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week, which was written on the board,

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which were the conditions outside of the prayer.

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So things that you need to

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have outside of the prayer for the prayer

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to be valid. And today, we're gonna start

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talking about what is obligatory

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within the prayer,

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in order for the prayer to

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have validity.

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But if you just take a quick minute,

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introduce yourselves to people around you, and then

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we'll just get started.

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Okay. Should we get started?

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Great.

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So today, we're gonna talk about the

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integral

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components to the prayer once you're in the

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prayer. Last week, we talked about the conditions

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that had to be met outside of prayer.

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And now we're gonna talk about this within

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the actual performance of the prayer itself.

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And as we go through it, just keeping

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in mind that we're kinda going in an

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order. So whether you were born into Islam,

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you're a recent convert to Islam,

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you convert a while ago to Islam, or

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you're still exploring Islam,

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there's also gonna be embedded in this kind

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of a structure

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in which one can actually, like, teach somebody

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how to pray,

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who either is a convert

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or somebody who,

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is just returning back to faith, and they're

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starting to pray for the first time in

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their life. Right? Because the idea isn't

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that you need to know how to pray

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in order to convert to Islam.

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Right? Or somebody takes their shahada, there's no

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prerequisite

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course of study.

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And you wanna be careful because quite often,

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we utilize language that's very absolute,

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that can create challenges for people as they're

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kinda getting acclimated into things

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systematically. So remember, those of you here when

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we talked about Wudu, we went into Wudu

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really in-depth so that you know what are

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the different elements of wudu.

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So in any scenario, you know how to

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be able to adapt

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to the performance of wudu. It's a little

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different when you're sitting in your office place

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versus a classroom versus in your home or

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in a place surrounded by Muslims versus you're

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the only Muslim that's there.

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So I want you to understand

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this in the context of just

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where you might have learned how to pray,

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but not learned how to pray in the

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ways that we're gonna talk about it right

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now. Does that make sense?

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Right? And so at the end, we'll answer

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questions.

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But the way that we're gonna look at

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this over the course of the next couple

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weeks

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is

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in the prayer itself. So this is now

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in prayer,

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not outside of prayer, but in prayer. There's

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gonna be

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3 ways we're gonna understand this.

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The Fard,

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the Wajib,

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and the sunnah

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parts to the prayer.

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Right?

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The meaning

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the obligatory,

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the wajib,

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meaning the necessary,

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and the sunnah

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meaning

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the recommended.

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When we talked about

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wudu,

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we to recap really quick, talked about what

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these words mean

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in Arabic, in English. Right? Because even in

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English, we don't necessarily utilize these terms. Right?

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Like, somebody asks you, you know, why are

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you doing what you're doing? You don't say,

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this is an obligation of mine. Right? Likely,

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it's not in kinda just common jargon.

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So

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this is something

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that is from a religious standpoint

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understood

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to be

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definitive in its evidence as well as definitive

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in the meaning

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of what it's invoking. Does that make sense?

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And

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something is Wajib

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and that it's a little bit less

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in terms of the definitiveness

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of it.

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So in the Hanafi school, which is what

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we've been looking at,

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these are things that are still important to

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do,

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but

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they don't have

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as definitive. It's more probabilistic

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like what the potential meaning is within this.

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Right? So if somebody says, how do

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you know you pray your salah, your daily

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prayers as a Muslim?

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Because in the Quran, it says again and

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again. Right?

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Establish the prayer.

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And there's not really other ways to understand

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that. Just establish the prayer means establish the

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prayer. Do you know what I mean?

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And we're gonna go through the conditions here

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that are the obligations

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and what you wanna know is that if

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any of these are left out,

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then the prayer doesn't count. It's not valid.

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The way you wanna conceptualize it

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is kinda like the likeness of your skeleton

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to your entire being. This is what's creating

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the frame

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of your prayer.

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The wajib

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are elements that are necessary.

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And if one of these is left out,

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forgetfully,

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not purposely but forgetfully,

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we'll talk about this next week, it doesn't

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invalidate the prayer.

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You can do what's called a prostration of

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forgetfulness

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that then remedies

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that deficiency.

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You don't have to know what that means

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right now. We'll talk about it next week.

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But

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this is still something that's important just on

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that spectrum.

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It's of a

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lesser

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degree of obligation.

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And then the sunnah

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acts. So the wajib in relation to that

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example,

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like, the fard is the skeleton.

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The wajib is now gonna be kind of

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the body that goes down the skeleton.

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And then the sunnah parts to it, which

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we'll talk about next week and potentially the

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week after,

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this is what, like, beautifies that body.

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Does that make sense?

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So what I wanna do as we go

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through this is to talk about this, but

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to also demonstrate some of the things that

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come up so that we're aware of what

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it is that we're talking about here.

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So the first component to this

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that is an obligation

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is what's called

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or

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what a lot of people do when you

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see them start the prayer, they say this

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initial

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Allahu Akbar.

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Right? It's a glorifying of god.

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The term Allahu Akbar is gonna fall under

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this category,

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just so you know.

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So

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here in the Hanafi school,

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the conditions we talked about last week outside

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of prayer,

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some people would say this is also an

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obligatory

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condition outside of prayer, and some people say

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it's a condition

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of the prayer. Right? The same thing, practically

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speaking, you have to do it.

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This is a phrase that just has to

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be something that is glorifying god at the

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level of an obligation.

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Somebody could theoretically say,

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glory be to God, and it still fulfills

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the obligation.

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Everybody

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ends up saying Allahu Akbar,

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but just so we can understand conceptually,

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that is what is there for validity.

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Someone

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could say any statement in glorification of the

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divine.

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It has to be a full sentence, like

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a full statement

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in that sense.

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This

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is in relation and quite often connected to

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the intention that we talked about last

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time. So you're making an intention to pray

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the prayer as an outside condition. You're not

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in prayer yet when you're making that intention.

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And now to signify

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that you are in this state of prayer,

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you're doing something

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that becomes

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a glorification of God. When we pray all

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together at sunset, we're gonna say Allahu Akbar

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to signify the start of the prayer.

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The second part to it is gonna give

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a little bit more understanding, and we'll talk

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about this in a little bit more detail,

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is now

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standing.

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If you are physically able to do so

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in the course of your prayer, it's a

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fard in the obligatory

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prayers.

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You have to stand in the prayer.

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If you don't have the physical ability to

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stand,

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then you

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are not required to stand. But if you

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have the physical capacity to stand

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and the obligatory

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prayers

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in the Hanafi school, you are required to

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stand

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during the course of the prayer.

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Does that make sense?

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When you're standing in prayer now, the actual

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standing, just so we can understand it, right,

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in this room, the qibla is this way.

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Standing

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means that you're standing upright.

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So you're not gonna, like, feign humility and

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be hunched over.

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Standing as a description

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is that you're standing straight enough

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that when you're standing

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that your hands, they're not able to touch

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your knees.

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Do you get what I mean?

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And the mechanics are things that are important

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in the course of the prayer, but you're

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standing upright

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when you are in prayer.

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Now I wanna give you a couple of

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things

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because you're gonna stand in prayer

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whether you're praying alone

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or you're praying in congregation, there's some distinctions

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that are made. And just to be aware

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of it in terms of what you're gonna

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be met with. If you go into a

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masjid

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or you're praying where there's other Muslims,

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quite often, you might find somebody

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when they're standing,

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they will put something in front of the

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area that they're going to prostrate.

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This is outside of this conversation of what's

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obligatory,

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but just so we understand it, because there's

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gonna be a lot of things that can

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come up just in the course of, like,

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you're standing in the prayer that you wanna

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be ready for. Right?

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So when somebody is in prayer,

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the recommendation

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is that you put something in front of

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you that essentially

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functions as kind of a

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barricade between you and the person

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that is walking in front of you.

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So where I am

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standing in prayer,

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I can put anything

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that is even

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as small as a marker

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that goes in front of me. If I

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move here, is that a problem?

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No. That's alright. Just so everyone can see.

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Can everyone see me here?

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Yeah. So if I'm here and I'm in

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prayer

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and I put this in front of where

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I'm gonna prostrate,

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what it allows

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for is people to walk immediately in front

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of that thing. In Arabic, it's called the

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sutra.

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Right? It's a cover. The hadith says, even

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if it's a blade of grass, you want

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to have something that's there that kinda blocks

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people's

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ability

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to walk in front of you. If there's

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no sutra,

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then essentially

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twice the length of your prostration

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is an area. So it's not like somebody's

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praying all the way back there and there's

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nothing in front of them, then nobody can

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walk in front of them in the entirety

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of the room. When you pray in congregation,

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the cover of the person leading the prayer

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counts for everybody else. Right? So that's one

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of the things. Why is that important?

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Because if you're walking in a mosque or

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you're walking and people are praying separately

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and somebody's standing in their prayer and you

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come and walk in front of them or

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try to, they might stick their hand like

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this

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to indicate don't walk in front of me.

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Right? They're not trying to shake your hand.

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Okay?

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And you just wanna be mindful of that

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because I know a lot of people who

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they don't know. Right? How many times you

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meet Muslims and they're constantly shaking hands,

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etcetera etcetera.

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Now when the person's praying,

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like, and they stick their hand out, they

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want you to not walk in front of

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them. That's what they're doing. Does that make

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sense? They're gonna do that while they're standing

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and you just wanna be mindful of it.

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If you, by accident, shake their hand, it's

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okay. It's funny story to tell somebody later

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on. But that's not what they're trying to

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do. Now say I'm standing

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and I'm not praying

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just by myself, I'm praying with 2 people.

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What is gonna happen

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is that the person leading the prayer

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has to be standing in front of the

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person that is praying with them

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to the extent that the person who's praying

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next to them,

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their heels have to be behind

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the heels of the person leading in prayer.

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Right? Can you come and stand up here?

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So if we're praying together,

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we're gonna essentially just stand like this,

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and that suffices.

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That make sense?

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Okay. Now say the 2 of us are

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praying, standing side by side,

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right, And then a 3rd person comes and

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joins us. There's a couple of different scenarios

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here that can happen.

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Right?

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One can you come here? Yeah.

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Say,

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we're praying and all of this is behind

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us. Right? There's a lot of stuff behind

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us.

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There's no room for these 2 to move

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back.

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So in this scenario,

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the situation

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would be such that we want to have

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a separation between the one leading the prayer

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and the two people praying behind.

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Because all these things are back here,

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this scenario

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would now have the person leading the prayer

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move forward.

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Does that make sense?

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Yeah. So if you walk into a mosque

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and somebody's praying

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like this and you join them, 2 people,

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and

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the person leading the prayer takes a step

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forward, you didn't do anything wrong. You guys

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can sit down. I'm gonna call you back

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up in 2 minutes. Just be ready. Right?

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They're not moving away from you because you

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broke the prayer or messed up the prayer,

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but formulaically,

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if there's a person leading and someone praying

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next to them, and there's a barrier behind

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them and someone comes here,

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then this person is gonna move up because

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there's no place to move back.

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Does that make sense?

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Okay.

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Is that for men only?

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You have, like, in some schools of thought

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that there's women led jamats also. Right? Must

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the must the heel if it's, like, shallow?

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Shadowing? You still have to be in front.

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Okay. Yeah.

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The only school of thought that I know

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of right? Well, forgive me if I'm wrong.

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But in the Maliki school,

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the imam doesn't have to be in front

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of the congregation. People can pray in front

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of the person leading the play.

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Yeah. But,

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in the other schools

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that you have the

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the person leading the prayer has to be

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in front of everybody.

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Yeah.

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So

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here, say now for example,

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all 3 of these people are praying

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and for whatever reason, they just don't know

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that, you know, you're you're supposed to move,

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the prayer is still valid. It still counts.

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Right?

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But just so you're aware of it, if

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this barrier is not here,

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then there's a couple of things that would

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happen. Right? So you wanna come up again?

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Can everybody see you when we stand

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here? Are you sure? Okay. Come stand.

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And you come up too.

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So you're gonna just join from back here.

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Right?

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He's going to enter into prayer first.

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He's gonna make his intention to pray the

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prayer,

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and one of 2 things will happen in

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this scenario now.

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He's gonna either automatically

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be aware that this person is here and

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then take a step back. You wanna do

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that?

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And now we're

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good.

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Or he's not gonna know that this person

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is back there. Right?

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Deeply pious person. He doesn't know what's going

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on in the world around him. Some dude

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just came and stood behind him. He doesn't

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know. Right? He's intoxicated with God at the

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moment.

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So he's in this place where he doesn't

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know.

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So he's in his state of prayer, and

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all he's gonna do is gonna tap him

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or he might even pull him back.

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So if somebody does that to you while

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you're praying, they're not trying to, like, mess

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around with you or test you in some

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way. You can sit down.

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But they're just now getting to a place

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that is

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the

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mode formulaically that we stand in the course

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of the prayer. Does that make sense?

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And, again,

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if there's not,

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like, movement,

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right, it doesn't mean that it's invalid.

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Do you know what I mean? But I

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just want you to be aware that if

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these things are happening,

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don't get thrown off. Right? And if somebody

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comes to tell you something and they're like,

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you didn't move, you messed it up, this

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or that, right,

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Just sometimes you gotta smile and nod to

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people, but, essentially, what's gonna happen

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is if there's 2 people praying,

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a third joins,

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this person is going to move back and

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the rows start building out this way.

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Okay. I saw a couple of hands. Wait.

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Yeah. Just real quick. If it's just 2

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people, right, I've seen some people where,

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the guy leads a prayer and the person

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with them, their clothes are aligned. And in

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other situations where the person that's not leading

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the prayer is, like, staying slightly behind the

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hip, which is The toes can be aligned

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because your foot is not based off of

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the front of your foot in terms of

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a line. It's based off of the back

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of your foot. Right? So if you're here

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in Ramadan, you heard me say this, like,

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50 times. Right? Line up from the back

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of your heels, not the front of your

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toes. Do you know what I mean? So,

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like, your foot is bigger than my foot.

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And so if his toes are lined up

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where my toes are, the back of his

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heel is still behind, like, the back of

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my foot. Do you get what I mean?

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So you can stand if you're just 2

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people, you can stand directly next to the

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person who's leaving, like, the amount.

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More or less. Right? You're close to them.

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You know? Even if you're a little further

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back, it's fine. Right? But the person leading

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the prayer should be in front in some

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capacity. You know? Okay. Yeah.

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Couple of things.

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Another scenario where

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you may have to move is, like, during

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duet, sometimes

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spaces will come up in in in front

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of you, and you may have to move

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forward. Yeah. We're gonna talk about it. Yeah.

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Yeah. Just to let people know how many

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big movements they can make with before they

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invalidate the salah. Yep. Just to let them

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know. Yeah.

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Does the first one

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say?

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Taghima.

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Oh,

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yeah.

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And then two questions on that. Do we

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know why it has to be a full

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sentence? And

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do all these apply to all * of

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Islam and all This is in the Hanafi

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school. Okay. Yeah. These are the Fard. Right?

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Why are we doing this? Because some of

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you have been Muslim for a week.

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Some of you are not Muslim yet. Some

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of you born into Islam, but you're trying

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to reconnect to prayer and you haven't prayed

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in years.

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You wanna have at the end, we'll talk

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about the scenarios.

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Right? The next point will help to illustrate

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this a little bit because the third point

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is recitation.

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In the Hanafi school,

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you only have to recite in the Fard

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prayer

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in the first 2 rakas or of the

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sunnah prayers like in every rakah,

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just a small portion of the Quran, any

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of it.

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The smallest verse of the Quran says.

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Right? You could say

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to fulfill the just

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that in the prayer, and that's it.

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Because you, as somebody who's new to Islam,

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you have a legally valid reason as to

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why you won't know all of these things.

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Because when you take the shahada,

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the prayer becomes obligatory upon you. Right? And

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so we're understanding

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this not in the context of

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you wanna assume you don't already know these

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things.

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You know? I'm teaching somebody

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how to pray at a pace that makes

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sense for them as a new Muslim.

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There might be people we meet who have

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converted to Islam

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or they prayed for their whole life. Right?

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I have to pray my whole prayer. I

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don't have, as a default,

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a valid excuse. There's other instances where the

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faraya, they're important to know because, say, you

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woke up today and fudger ended at 556,

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and you woke up at 554,

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the same way when we talked about wudu,

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these are the obligatory

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parts of the wudu. These are the recommended

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parts to the wudu.

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You're not gonna spend the 2 minutes you

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have to pray fudger

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doing wudu in its entirety.

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You're gonna do the obligatory

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parts

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and then because it's an obligation

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to pray in the window of time. Right?

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If the time passes,

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then you have missed the window of time,

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that's

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religiously impermissible. It's haram to do that.

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So what Trump's is praying in its time,

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and you got 45 seconds left to finish

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fudger in its window, you're gonna do this.

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Do you get what I mean? There's different

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perspectives that say, hey.

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Like, you might be recommended to make up

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that prayer or not, and we'll talk about

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the nuance of that. But understanding this

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not in terms of what you already know,

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but assuming just a blank state from the

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beginning. Does that make sense?

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Yeah?

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Thank you. Yeah. Go ahead. So for for

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women leading women in prayer,

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so the rules that you showed, all of

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them apply? In the Hanafi school, there's not

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a opinion about women led prayer. In the

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other schools, there are. Right? But it's it's

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gonna be something similar. I don't know the

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rulings in these other schools, so I can't

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comment on those. A woman imam does not

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stand in front because it's based on Aisha.

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Say to Aisha, so she would leave the

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prayer standing in the middle,

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with 2 sisters on the other

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side of her. So there needs to be

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3 sisters is my understanding, and she stands

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in the middle, not in front. So I

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I will learn more inshallah at the feet

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because I don't know about that, but she

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shouldn't stand in front. Yeah. Great. I'm

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gonna that, but you shouldn't stand in front.

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Yeah. Great. And

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Okay. So also with the standing now, right,

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where

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in the previous, like, class, we talked about

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conditions outside of the prayer.

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So you're standing, like, facing towards

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Mecca. Right? You're already oriented towards the Kaaba,

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but you're gonna be standing facing towards Mecca.

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One of the things that comes up when

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you're praying in congregation

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rooted in this idea of gaps being created

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is

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in its initial state, you're gonna be standing

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with no gaps between you and the person

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next to you. Right? So

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the recommendations

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of it being shoulder to shoulder, and you'll

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hear people say this out loud, shoulder to

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shoulder, foot to foot, But the specificity

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of that is something that at least in

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the Hanafi school or others that I've heard

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as well is that it's not meant to

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be something that's definitive. Right? That when you

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stand up,

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you don't want to engage in excessive movement

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that is now in a place where you

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are changing

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the kinda natural state of standing to elongate

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your stance, to have your foot be touching

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the foot of the person next to you

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in every single raka,

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every single time. Does that make sense?

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Yeah. And you'll find people will do this

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differently,

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and some people will say that it's gotta

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be there no matter what, toe to toe.

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And most people would say that that's not

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what the understanding is of that hadith. You

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can't have large gaps between you and the

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person standing next to you. Right? There's not

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supposed to be, like, these huge distances.

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You know? If you came here during the

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Ramadan,

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we, like, would deliberately

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between prayers make sure people were lined up

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as they were supposed to be lined up

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and there wasn't bags

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between people or, like, gaps between people and

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these kinds of things.

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In the Hanafi school,

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if you move an excessive amount of times,

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it breaks your prayer. If you're also doing

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things that

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indicate

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that there's something that is not done in

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the course of prayer, like, that breaks your

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prayer. Right? You can't pick up your phone

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in the course of your prayer. Do you

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know what I mean? Right? You can't also

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talk to somebody else on the phone while

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you're in prayer. You know? But

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fundamentally,

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what you're gonna do when you stand in

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congregation

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is you're gonna be standing

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too close to to the person next to

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you. Right? You're filling up those gaps. And

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then you're gonna have movements just as you

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go up and down where some of the

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alignment is going to change a little bit.

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But the focus is still on the prayer,

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not necessarily

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on the posture

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that can in and of itself also become

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a distraction.

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Do you get what I mean? Right? So

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if you're praying next to somebody in a

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congregational setting,

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there might be somebody next to you who's

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very adamant about this. And if they're trying

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to get their foot right on top of

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your foot,

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this is why they're doing it. Just let

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them be. You know? That's like something that

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they've been taught, and that's fine. But for

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yourself, as you stand,

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you don't wanna have, like,

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a focus that says it's gotta be kinda

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rubbed up against another person. You're just ensuring

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that there's not great distance in between.

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Now if you're in a place where

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there is,

00:28:57 --> 00:28:59

a gap that pops up. Right?

00:28:59 --> 00:29:00

Say we're praying

00:29:01 --> 00:29:04

and in front of me, behind me,

00:29:04 --> 00:29:07

there are things. You can't be aware necessarily

00:29:07 --> 00:29:09

of something going on behind you. Like, how

00:29:09 --> 00:29:10

would you know that? Right?

00:29:11 --> 00:29:14

But if now there's the prayer started

00:29:14 --> 00:29:17

and there's an opportunity for you to move

00:29:17 --> 00:29:18

to close the gap.

00:29:18 --> 00:29:22

You're moving, but not excessive movement. Right? In

00:29:22 --> 00:29:25

the Hanafi school, if you move more than

00:29:25 --> 00:29:26

7 times,

00:29:26 --> 00:29:29

like, it's considered to be too and it

00:29:29 --> 00:29:32

breaks the prayer. Right? So you're not engaged

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in that kind of excessive movement,

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like, so much. Do you know what I

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mean? If you have ever been to Mecca

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and Medina, for example, people line up to

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pray and there's gaps in the rows in

00:29:43 --> 00:29:45

front of them. Like, if I'm here

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and I see a gap all the way,

00:29:48 --> 00:29:51

like, up there, I'm not gonna push my

00:29:51 --> 00:29:54

way through to fill that gap. You know?

00:29:55 --> 00:29:58

But where there's a reasonable kind of

00:29:58 --> 00:30:02

movement that isn't excessive, that's going to have

00:30:02 --> 00:30:05

you, like, go at a point where

00:30:05 --> 00:30:07

somebody looking at you from outside their prayer

00:30:07 --> 00:30:10

saw you, and they're like this like, what

00:30:10 --> 00:30:12

you're doing is not prayer at that point.

00:30:12 --> 00:30:13

Do do you get what I mean? Does

00:30:13 --> 00:30:14

that make sense?

00:30:16 --> 00:30:17

Here also,

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what you wanna be mindful of,

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that'll happen. Like, in the course of your

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standing

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is,

00:30:27 --> 00:30:29

well, we'll talk about it as we go

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through, like, the other,

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obligatory parts of the prayer. Yeah. Sorry. Not

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to No. Go ahead. To find a point

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on this, but,

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how much is how much time

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is there between

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each movement

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that it is consecutive? Like, how,

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how much of a gap can you leave

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between the movements

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so that you so that it's not consecutive?

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It's not about consecutiveness,

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at least in the Hanafi school. It's just,

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like, total movements over the course of it.

00:31:00 --> 00:31:01

Right? You know?

00:31:04 --> 00:31:07

Yeah. Any other questions on standing? So standing

00:31:07 --> 00:31:09

is a part to this. Right? In the

00:31:09 --> 00:31:10

Hanafi school,

00:31:11 --> 00:31:12

in your voluntary prayers,

00:31:13 --> 00:31:14

you don't have to stand.

00:31:15 --> 00:31:16

It

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reduces the reward, but it's not an obligation.

00:31:19 --> 00:31:21

Right? So you see a lot of people,

00:31:21 --> 00:31:24

particularly from the Indian subcontinent, they do this

00:31:24 --> 00:31:25

a lot. They'll pray

00:31:25 --> 00:31:27

their fard and, you know, in congregation,

00:31:27 --> 00:31:29

they'll stand, they'll go through it, and then

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when they pray their sunnahs or they pray

00:31:31 --> 00:31:32

nafil,

00:31:32 --> 00:31:35

they just stay seated on the ground. Right?

00:31:35 --> 00:31:39

That's something that in particular, the standing is

00:31:39 --> 00:31:41

relevant to the obligatory prayers,

00:31:42 --> 00:31:44

in the Hanafi school. Right? You should still

00:31:44 --> 00:31:44

stand

00:31:45 --> 00:31:46

if you can,

00:31:47 --> 00:31:50

in, like, all of your prayers. But if

00:31:50 --> 00:31:52

you don't in a voluntary prayer,

00:31:52 --> 00:31:56

that is something that's valid. The standing is

00:31:56 --> 00:31:59

a fard act, an obligatory act

00:32:00 --> 00:32:00

in

00:32:01 --> 00:32:01

the

00:32:01 --> 00:32:04

obligatory prayers in the Hanafi school. Does that

00:32:04 --> 00:32:05

make sense? Okay.

00:32:06 --> 00:32:08

Now in the course of your standing,

00:32:09 --> 00:32:11

you're gonna have

00:32:13 --> 00:32:14

recitation.

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And this is

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not

00:32:20 --> 00:32:20

the recitation

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that is

00:32:23 --> 00:32:24

within the category

00:32:24 --> 00:32:26

of what's wajib and what's recommended.

00:32:27 --> 00:32:30

Right? We're talking just at the place of

00:32:30 --> 00:32:31

what is an obligation.

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And it's important to understand this because there

00:32:35 --> 00:32:35

are scenarios.

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So you can recite

00:32:38 --> 00:32:38

any

00:32:39 --> 00:32:40

part of the Quran,

00:32:41 --> 00:32:44

just a small verse of the Quran and

00:32:44 --> 00:32:44

that suffices

00:32:45 --> 00:32:46

at as a minimum

00:32:47 --> 00:32:48

for the obligations.

00:32:48 --> 00:32:48

Right?

00:32:49 --> 00:32:50

In the Hanafi school.

00:32:51 --> 00:32:54

So there's a hadith, for example, where

00:32:55 --> 00:32:57

companion is being taught by the prophet how

00:32:57 --> 00:32:59

to go through the movements of the of

00:32:59 --> 00:33:02

the prayer. And he says to this companion

00:33:04 --> 00:33:06

that just read from the Quran like what

00:33:06 --> 00:33:08

you know of it. Right? He doesn't specify

00:33:08 --> 00:33:09

in that hadith

00:33:10 --> 00:33:10

reading

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the

00:33:12 --> 00:33:13

in

00:33:14 --> 00:33:15

particular.

00:33:15 --> 00:33:18

You know? So these hadith, what the people

00:33:18 --> 00:33:21

who are making these rulings and adopting methodologies,

00:33:22 --> 00:33:24

they're looking at them altogether. How do they

00:33:24 --> 00:33:27

communicate with one another? There's other people who

00:33:27 --> 00:33:30

would say there's hadith that says, like, the

00:33:30 --> 00:33:31

there's no prayer without.

00:33:32 --> 00:33:33

Right? You know?

00:33:34 --> 00:33:36

School, they would say that in and of

00:33:36 --> 00:33:39

itself is not strong enough to indicate it's

00:33:39 --> 00:33:42

a fard. It's a wajib. It's a necessary

00:33:42 --> 00:33:43

thing.

00:33:43 --> 00:33:46

When you learn your prayer, you have to

00:33:46 --> 00:33:46

say the.

00:33:47 --> 00:33:49

We're gonna talk about this next week. You

00:33:49 --> 00:33:51

have to do what's there. But as you're

00:33:51 --> 00:33:51

learning,

00:33:53 --> 00:33:55

which can be very daunting for many people.

00:33:56 --> 00:33:59

Right? You're going through it. Somebody took their

00:33:59 --> 00:33:59

shahada.

00:34:00 --> 00:34:02

On Friday, there was 2 brothers that took

00:34:02 --> 00:34:05

their shahada. Right? Allah increased them.

00:34:05 --> 00:34:07

If you take your shahada,

00:34:08 --> 00:34:10

the next the prayer is obligatory

00:34:10 --> 00:34:13

upon you at that point. Right? So the

00:34:13 --> 00:34:14

leeway isn't,

00:34:14 --> 00:34:16

okay, you get a month to just not

00:34:16 --> 00:34:19

pray, you know, but in understanding

00:34:19 --> 00:34:20

that

00:34:20 --> 00:34:23

all you're gonna have to do in a

00:34:23 --> 00:34:25

language that you don't know

00:34:25 --> 00:34:28

is going to essentially be this.

00:34:29 --> 00:34:30

And it can be any

00:34:31 --> 00:34:32

small verse.

00:34:32 --> 00:34:33

You could say

00:34:36 --> 00:34:37

and then that's it.

00:34:38 --> 00:34:39

You could say

00:34:40 --> 00:34:42

and then that's it.

00:34:43 --> 00:34:44

In this scenario,

00:34:45 --> 00:34:47

right, what are other situations that this might

00:34:47 --> 00:34:49

come up in? You know, what if somebody

00:34:49 --> 00:34:52

wakes up and they have to perform?

00:34:53 --> 00:34:55

Right? A man wakes up and he realizes

00:34:56 --> 00:34:59

he had a nocturnal emission during the course

00:34:59 --> 00:35:01

of the night. A sister finishes her menstrual

00:35:01 --> 00:35:02

cycle

00:35:02 --> 00:35:04

towards the end of a period

00:35:04 --> 00:35:07

of prayer, and there's only a short window

00:35:07 --> 00:35:08

of time. You got,

00:35:09 --> 00:35:11

like, 10 minutes to do your

00:35:11 --> 00:35:14

and, like, put on some clothes, do all

00:35:14 --> 00:35:16

of those conditions that we talked about last

00:35:16 --> 00:35:19

week, and then get the prayer done. So

00:35:19 --> 00:35:21

now there's, like, 2 minutes left. Do you

00:35:21 --> 00:35:22

get what I mean?

00:35:22 --> 00:35:24

The exiting of the prayer time

00:35:25 --> 00:35:27

is something in relation to this. You're gonna

00:35:27 --> 00:35:30

get done what you have to at a

00:35:30 --> 00:35:30

minimum

00:35:31 --> 00:35:34

or you're somebody new to this prayer thing.

00:35:35 --> 00:35:36

You're new to Islam.

00:35:37 --> 00:35:40

You didn't pray, born into a Muslim family,

00:35:40 --> 00:35:42

and you're just learning prayer for the first

00:35:42 --> 00:35:42

time.

00:35:43 --> 00:35:46

You don't speak Arabic. And even if you

00:35:46 --> 00:35:46

speak Arabic,

00:35:47 --> 00:35:50

Quranic Arabic is different from regular Arabic. Do

00:35:50 --> 00:35:51

you get what I mean?

00:35:51 --> 00:35:54

So you're in a place where it's not

00:35:54 --> 00:35:55

the destination,

00:35:56 --> 00:35:58

but it's a starting point, and you are

00:35:58 --> 00:36:02

reasonably learning then outside of that and fulfilling

00:36:02 --> 00:36:03

the obligation.

00:36:03 --> 00:36:05

Does that make sense?

00:36:05 --> 00:36:07

Does anybody have any questions on that? And

00:36:07 --> 00:36:09

this is really important because people are going

00:36:09 --> 00:36:11

to say things like,

00:36:11 --> 00:36:13

you know, it's better to do this or

00:36:13 --> 00:36:16

it's that. Yeah. Like, these things are there.

00:36:16 --> 00:36:18

That's what we're talking about. This is the

00:36:18 --> 00:36:20

skeleton of it, and then we're gonna talk

00:36:20 --> 00:36:23

about what is the body that goes on

00:36:23 --> 00:36:23

the skeleton

00:36:24 --> 00:36:26

and how do you make that

00:36:26 --> 00:36:28

beautified in some capacity.

00:36:28 --> 00:36:31

But you gotta pray the prayer and now

00:36:31 --> 00:36:33

you think also in kind of the constraints

00:36:33 --> 00:36:35

that you might have. Yeah. Go ahead.

00:36:36 --> 00:36:39

Can you pray in English in addition to

00:36:39 --> 00:36:39

the Arabic?

00:36:40 --> 00:36:43

This? Yeah. No? Or is it just strictly

00:36:43 --> 00:36:45

Arabic and then, like, maybe, like, for sunnah,

00:36:45 --> 00:36:48

can you pray in English? What some people

00:36:48 --> 00:36:49

make exceptions for

00:36:50 --> 00:36:52

is within the course of your prayer making

00:36:52 --> 00:36:53

dua

00:36:53 --> 00:36:55

in certain parts of the prayer,

00:36:56 --> 00:36:58

but this has to be in Arabic. Right?

00:36:59 --> 00:37:02

But, like, lit like, the smallest verse in

00:37:02 --> 00:37:03

the Quran

00:37:03 --> 00:37:05

is two words. It says,

00:37:06 --> 00:37:08

You don't have to know what it means.

00:37:08 --> 00:37:10

Right? You don't have to, like

00:37:10 --> 00:37:13

like, it's it's just that's it.

00:37:13 --> 00:37:15

You're not worshiping a feeling

00:37:15 --> 00:37:17

when you're praying in Islam.

00:37:17 --> 00:37:19

You know? You're praying to God.

00:37:20 --> 00:37:22

And the mode through which you pray to

00:37:22 --> 00:37:22

God

00:37:23 --> 00:37:25

is based off of how God has outlined

00:37:25 --> 00:37:27

this and God's messenger. If somebody says the

00:37:27 --> 00:37:30

prophet Muhammad never prayed like this, well, yeah,

00:37:30 --> 00:37:33

because the prophet Muhammad prayed like this, like

00:37:33 --> 00:37:35

the whole thing. But that's not how

00:37:35 --> 00:37:39

sharia functions. That's not how fiqh functions. Right?

00:37:39 --> 00:37:41

You have what is obligatory.

00:37:41 --> 00:37:43

You have that whole spectrum that we talked

00:37:43 --> 00:37:44

about. Obligations,

00:37:45 --> 00:37:45

prohibitions,

00:37:46 --> 00:37:47

what is neutral,

00:37:48 --> 00:37:48

recommended,

00:37:49 --> 00:37:49

disliked,

00:37:50 --> 00:37:52

you know, all of these things. Right?

00:37:52 --> 00:37:55

So what is also reasonable is going to

00:37:55 --> 00:37:57

vary for person to person. You know what

00:37:57 --> 00:37:59

I mean? Somebody might have a

00:38:00 --> 00:38:03

natural aptitude towards language. You know? You might

00:38:03 --> 00:38:05

be in a place where you,

00:38:05 --> 00:38:06

like

00:38:06 --> 00:38:09

we have people here who before they took

00:38:09 --> 00:38:10

their Shahada,

00:38:10 --> 00:38:13

they, like, observe Ramadan for 3 years, prayed

00:38:13 --> 00:38:16

with us every day. Like, it's different. You're

00:38:16 --> 00:38:19

not in competition with anybody else, but you

00:38:19 --> 00:38:20

want to understand

00:38:20 --> 00:38:23

that as a starting point, you're still working

00:38:23 --> 00:38:25

towards something. So in the course of the

00:38:25 --> 00:38:26

prayer,

00:38:26 --> 00:38:28

you're doing what is required

00:38:29 --> 00:38:30

obligation wise.

00:38:30 --> 00:38:31

And then from there,

00:38:32 --> 00:38:34

you are outside of the prayer learning what

00:38:34 --> 00:38:37

needs to be learned to get you to

00:38:37 --> 00:38:39

these parts that we're gonna talk about next

00:38:39 --> 00:38:40

time. Yeah. Can you clarify what you mean

00:38:40 --> 00:38:40

by what you can decide? Because

00:38:41 --> 00:38:41

my

00:38:45 --> 00:38:47

my understanding is it has to be, like,

00:38:48 --> 00:38:49

it has, like, make sense. You don't have

00:38:49 --> 00:38:51

to recite Surah Fatiha here.

00:38:52 --> 00:38:53

I mean, like, in 4th prayer. Right? Like,

00:38:53 --> 00:38:55

it's not like We're gonna talk about all

00:38:55 --> 00:38:57

of that next week Okay. So it's not

00:38:57 --> 00:38:58

confuse people.

00:38:59 --> 00:38:59

This has

00:39:00 --> 00:39:02

to be just a short verse of the

00:39:02 --> 00:39:02

Quran.

00:39:03 --> 00:39:06

Right? That's my question. Yeah. Like, it A

00:39:06 --> 00:39:08

verse is gonna have a full sentence to

00:39:08 --> 00:39:09

it. So I but mean, can I say,

00:39:09 --> 00:39:10

like, elif lamim and that's it?

00:39:12 --> 00:39:15

It's a it's a verse. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

00:39:16 --> 00:39:17

But that's what I'm saying. Right? You don't

00:39:17 --> 00:39:19

wanna think about it experientially.

00:39:20 --> 00:39:20

Right?

00:39:21 --> 00:39:23

And you don't wanna use words when you're

00:39:23 --> 00:39:24

talking to somebody

00:39:25 --> 00:39:26

who's new to it

00:39:28 --> 00:39:31

that claims something is absolute when it's not.

00:39:31 --> 00:39:33

Do you know what I mean? Because the

00:39:33 --> 00:39:36

alternative is what? Right? Like, if you took

00:39:36 --> 00:39:37

your shahada

00:39:38 --> 00:39:40

at Maghrib time today, like right now,

00:39:40 --> 00:39:42

Maghrib is fired upon him

00:39:43 --> 00:39:44

after he took his shahada.

00:39:45 --> 00:39:47

He's gonna pray in congregation, so he's following

00:39:48 --> 00:39:49

along with everybody.

00:39:49 --> 00:39:52

But if he went home to pray Isha,

00:39:52 --> 00:39:55

are we telling him that by the time

00:39:55 --> 00:39:56

Isha starts

00:39:56 --> 00:39:58

in an hour and 20 minutes,

00:39:59 --> 00:40:01

he's gonna have to know how to recite

00:40:01 --> 00:40:02

Fatiha,

00:40:03 --> 00:40:05

one long verse or 3 short verses of

00:40:05 --> 00:40:06

the Quran,

00:40:06 --> 00:40:07

every invocation

00:40:08 --> 00:40:10

and every posture of the prayer. He's been

00:40:10 --> 00:40:12

Muslim for 5 minutes. Do you see what

00:40:12 --> 00:40:13

I mean?

00:40:13 --> 00:40:16

Right? That's why it's really important to understand

00:40:16 --> 00:40:16

that

00:40:17 --> 00:40:19

where and how it might have been given

00:40:19 --> 00:40:21

to us is not necessarily

00:40:22 --> 00:40:23

given to us in the way so that

00:40:23 --> 00:40:25

we know how to teach it also.

00:40:25 --> 00:40:27

Right? Because you have to know how to

00:40:27 --> 00:40:30

pray in order to pray, but knowing how

00:40:30 --> 00:40:32

to pray doesn't mean that you know how

00:40:32 --> 00:40:34

to teach somebody how to pray. They're different

00:40:34 --> 00:40:36

things. Do you get what I mean? Does

00:40:36 --> 00:40:37

that make sense?

00:40:37 --> 00:40:39

Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Is it so is

00:40:39 --> 00:40:42

this also an opportunity, like, with that obligatory

00:40:42 --> 00:40:44

recitation, like, to if if you just need

00:40:44 --> 00:40:46

a verse to find a verse that kind

00:40:46 --> 00:40:47

of,

00:40:47 --> 00:40:49

like, sticks out to you if there's something

00:40:49 --> 00:40:52

that resonates with you within that sentence or

00:40:52 --> 00:40:55

Yeah. It could, but I would say, like,

00:40:55 --> 00:40:57

it doesn't have to be that. Right? That's

00:40:57 --> 00:40:59

not a condition of it. You just have

00:40:59 --> 00:41:01

to say the verse. Yeah. Do you know

00:41:01 --> 00:41:03

what I mean? So whatever is going to

00:41:03 --> 00:41:05

get you through the fulfillment

00:41:05 --> 00:41:06

of the obligation.

00:41:06 --> 00:41:08

Right? And it can be a verse of

00:41:08 --> 00:41:11

fateha if that's what you're working on. Right?

00:41:11 --> 00:41:13

You know? But it's gotta be something

00:41:14 --> 00:41:16

at a minimum that's there. Right?

00:41:17 --> 00:41:18

Any other questions on that?

00:41:19 --> 00:41:22

What time is my group? What time is

00:41:22 --> 00:41:24

it right now? Okay. So we still have

00:41:24 --> 00:41:25

some time.

00:41:28 --> 00:41:29

Yeah. I have 755.

00:41:31 --> 00:41:31

Okay.

00:41:32 --> 00:41:33

So from here,

00:41:34 --> 00:41:35

what happens next

00:41:36 --> 00:41:37

is the bowing.

00:41:38 --> 00:41:41

In Arabic, this is called the. I changed

00:41:41 --> 00:41:42

to invocations.

00:41:43 --> 00:41:46

Right? So it's in English. Right? So bowing

00:41:47 --> 00:41:47

in,

00:41:49 --> 00:41:52

is also like a posture movement now. Right?

00:41:52 --> 00:41:54

So what we're saying, when you move from

00:41:54 --> 00:41:55

the standing to the bowing,

00:41:56 --> 00:41:57

in terms of the obligations,

00:41:58 --> 00:42:01

you don't have to say anything in the

00:42:01 --> 00:42:02

bowing position

00:42:02 --> 00:42:04

in terms of the fara'id

00:42:04 --> 00:42:05

of it.

00:42:05 --> 00:42:07

The posture of the bowing is

00:42:08 --> 00:42:09

such that

00:42:09 --> 00:42:10

what constitutes

00:42:11 --> 00:42:11

bowing

00:42:12 --> 00:42:14

is moving in such a way where your

00:42:14 --> 00:42:15

hands can now,

00:42:16 --> 00:42:18

like, rest on your knees. Do you know

00:42:18 --> 00:42:19

what I mean? So the ideal

00:42:20 --> 00:42:22

is that your back is in a place

00:42:22 --> 00:42:25

where it's making a 90 degree angle when

00:42:25 --> 00:42:25

you're doing that.

00:42:26 --> 00:42:28

But if you go down and you stay

00:42:28 --> 00:42:30

here, it still counts.

00:42:31 --> 00:42:33

Does that make sense? Because your hands are

00:42:33 --> 00:42:36

touching your knees. What you don't wanna do

00:42:36 --> 00:42:37

is

00:42:37 --> 00:42:41

give religious significance to something that's not there.

00:42:41 --> 00:42:44

So somebody says, I'm gonna go down, and

00:42:44 --> 00:42:46

I'm just gonna, like, go really down. Right?

00:42:47 --> 00:42:48

You know, like, well, that's not like

00:42:49 --> 00:42:52

the merits to that is not rooted in

00:42:52 --> 00:42:52

anything

00:42:53 --> 00:42:55

of our tradition. You know? So you want

00:42:55 --> 00:42:57

to get to a place where your back

00:42:57 --> 00:43:00

goes to the 90 degrees. The same way

00:43:00 --> 00:43:01

we said standing

00:43:02 --> 00:43:04

necessitates an under like, the standing

00:43:04 --> 00:43:06

essentially is that you're standing in such a

00:43:06 --> 00:43:08

way where your arms are not able to

00:43:08 --> 00:43:09

touch your knees.

00:43:10 --> 00:43:11

Right? So if you were hunched over in

00:43:11 --> 00:43:13

your prayer, your hands could touch your knees,

00:43:13 --> 00:43:16

then that's not standing. Right? You're standing

00:43:16 --> 00:43:17

straight. When you're bowing,

00:43:18 --> 00:43:20

you're bowing in this way too where it

00:43:20 --> 00:43:23

allows for your hands to touch your knees.

00:43:24 --> 00:43:25

Does that make sense?

00:43:26 --> 00:43:27

Okay.

00:43:27 --> 00:43:29

Any questions on that?

00:43:37 --> 00:43:37

No?

00:43:38 --> 00:43:39

Yeah.

00:43:42 --> 00:43:44

So one thing you wanna be careful about,

00:43:44 --> 00:43:45

my son learned this the other day. I

00:43:45 --> 00:43:46

don't know if any of you have ever

00:43:46 --> 00:43:48

had this happen to you, but we were

00:43:48 --> 00:43:49

all praying together,

00:43:50 --> 00:43:52

and he was standing,

00:43:54 --> 00:43:56

like, I was leading my wife and my

00:43:56 --> 00:43:57

daughter and my son in prayer. My son's

00:43:57 --> 00:43:59

7 years old. Right? He's not like, a

00:43:59 --> 00:44:00

25 year old man. He's a little kid.

00:44:00 --> 00:44:01

You know? I don't know if you ever

00:44:01 --> 00:44:04

seen Kareem run around here. He's got, like,

00:44:04 --> 00:44:06

a unique relationship to his prayer. We were

00:44:06 --> 00:44:07

praying in Ramadan.

00:44:07 --> 00:44:08

He would, like,

00:44:08 --> 00:44:10

stand to pray. He'd run out the door,

00:44:10 --> 00:44:13

drink some water, come back, stand next to

00:44:13 --> 00:44:14

us, and kinda do his thing. So we're

00:44:14 --> 00:44:16

praying in the house, and he put his

00:44:16 --> 00:44:19

prayer mat behind where my daughter was standing.

00:44:19 --> 00:44:20

And

00:44:20 --> 00:44:22

as he came up, my daughter,

00:44:23 --> 00:44:25

like, bumped him with her backside in the

00:44:25 --> 00:44:28

prayer, and Kareem just, like, lost it. You

00:44:28 --> 00:44:30

know? He didn't know what was going on.

00:44:30 --> 00:44:32

Yeah. He, like he was he was so

00:44:32 --> 00:44:34

funny to him. And at the end of

00:44:34 --> 00:44:35

it, he's like, papa, do you know what

00:44:35 --> 00:44:37

happened to me? I was like, what happened?

00:44:37 --> 00:44:38

He's like, Didi

00:44:39 --> 00:44:41

bumped me with her butt. Right? And I

00:44:41 --> 00:44:42

said, Kareem,

00:44:42 --> 00:44:45

today you reached a milestone as a Muslim.

00:44:45 --> 00:44:48

Because every Muslim praying in congregation has had

00:44:48 --> 00:44:50

somebody in front of them, smack them in

00:44:50 --> 00:44:52

the face in some way, shape, or form.

00:44:52 --> 00:44:55

Right? So when you are going through this,

00:44:55 --> 00:44:58

it's just inevitably gonna happen at some point

00:44:58 --> 00:44:59

in time. You're gonna, like,

00:45:00 --> 00:45:02

stand while somebody else is still, like, down

00:45:02 --> 00:45:05

or something's gonna happen, but just be mindful

00:45:05 --> 00:45:07

of people bumping you as you're going through

00:45:07 --> 00:45:08

things.

00:45:09 --> 00:45:09

Okay.

00:45:10 --> 00:45:11

Number 5 is

00:45:13 --> 00:45:14

the prostration.

00:45:17 --> 00:45:19

And in terms of the obligatory

00:45:19 --> 00:45:21

parts of the prostration

00:45:21 --> 00:45:23

are gonna be

00:45:23 --> 00:45:25

your forehead, hand, knees,

00:45:25 --> 00:45:27

and some part of your toe.

00:45:28 --> 00:45:28

Right?

00:45:29 --> 00:45:29

The,

00:45:29 --> 00:45:30

not the.

00:45:31 --> 00:45:32

Right?

00:45:32 --> 00:45:33

So

00:45:33 --> 00:45:34

the obligatory

00:45:34 --> 00:45:37

parts to this. Right? We're not saying,

00:45:37 --> 00:45:40

like, what is the complete part. We're saying

00:45:40 --> 00:45:41

at the minimum

00:45:42 --> 00:45:43

what one is going to

00:45:44 --> 00:45:45

be required to do.

00:45:47 --> 00:45:50

What needs to happen in that prostration being

00:45:50 --> 00:45:50

valid

00:45:50 --> 00:45:54

is that everything should ideally be unlike an

00:45:54 --> 00:45:56

evil even plane,

00:45:57 --> 00:46:00

so that there's not elevation to certain parts

00:46:00 --> 00:46:02

versus others. So if you're prostrating,

00:46:03 --> 00:46:05

the limit between

00:46:06 --> 00:46:08

how elevate like, say you were in a

00:46:08 --> 00:46:12

place where, like, there's just a bump in

00:46:12 --> 00:46:15

or, like, something elevated in front of you.

00:46:15 --> 00:46:16

Somebody put, like, some books in front of

00:46:16 --> 00:46:19

you or something. Right? You're in here. There's

00:46:19 --> 00:46:20

a bag in front of you.

00:46:20 --> 00:46:21

You can't have

00:46:22 --> 00:46:23

your head

00:46:23 --> 00:46:24

be elevated

00:46:25 --> 00:46:27

more than half a hand span above where

00:46:27 --> 00:46:29

your knees are. Right? If that is, then

00:46:29 --> 00:46:30

the prostration

00:46:30 --> 00:46:31

isn't complete.

00:46:32 --> 00:46:34

Does that make sense? So the ideal is

00:46:34 --> 00:46:35

that everything is just kind of flat in

00:46:35 --> 00:46:38

front of you. You know? You can put

00:46:38 --> 00:46:40

something in front of you when you're praying.

00:46:40 --> 00:46:42

Right? If I pray and I put this

00:46:42 --> 00:46:43

where I'm gonna prostrate

00:46:43 --> 00:46:45

and this just hits my stomach,

00:46:45 --> 00:46:46

right, that's different.

00:46:46 --> 00:46:49

But if I'm in a place where I'm

00:46:49 --> 00:46:52

praying on top of it, reasonably speaking, right,

00:46:52 --> 00:46:54

like, it is creating now,

00:46:55 --> 00:46:55

like, a

00:46:56 --> 00:46:58

challenge to the posture of the prostration.

00:46:58 --> 00:47:00

Does that make sense? Yeah.

00:47:01 --> 00:47:02

Okay.

00:47:02 --> 00:47:03

And then the last

00:47:04 --> 00:47:05

obligation

00:47:08 --> 00:47:10

is the final sitting,

00:47:13 --> 00:47:16

and that sitting is done to the length

00:47:17 --> 00:47:17

of

00:47:19 --> 00:47:21

the, which for those who are not familiar

00:47:21 --> 00:47:23

with it, in terms of its length, you

00:47:23 --> 00:47:25

could read it in probably, like, 10, 20

00:47:25 --> 00:47:26

seconds. Right?

00:47:27 --> 00:47:29

So a sitting that's in that extent.

00:47:30 --> 00:47:33

There's things that are very clearly missing from

00:47:33 --> 00:47:35

here that in the course of your prayer

00:47:35 --> 00:47:38

or even when we pray in, like, 5

00:47:38 --> 00:47:41

minutes, you'll notice, like, we didn't do a

00:47:41 --> 00:47:42

lot of this stuff

00:47:43 --> 00:47:45

because those are gonna get filled up here,

00:47:46 --> 00:47:49

and then some are gonna get filled up

00:47:49 --> 00:47:50

over here as well.

00:47:50 --> 00:47:52

But in this place,

00:47:52 --> 00:47:53

you're

00:47:54 --> 00:47:55

just understanding

00:47:55 --> 00:47:56

what is the obligation

00:47:57 --> 00:47:58

upon you.

00:47:58 --> 00:48:00

Right? It's a Islam 101 class,

00:48:01 --> 00:48:03

someone is trying to build a relationship with

00:48:03 --> 00:48:04

our prayer

00:48:05 --> 00:48:07

after, like, maybe years of not praying, we

00:48:07 --> 00:48:08

could have forgotten

00:48:08 --> 00:48:10

how to pray. Someone taught us to it.

00:48:10 --> 00:48:12

Some of us are new to Islam.

00:48:12 --> 00:48:15

Right? And, also, you can use the opportunity.

00:48:15 --> 00:48:16

Somebody comes to you

00:48:17 --> 00:48:20

and you wanna teach them about their prayer

00:48:20 --> 00:48:20

in Islam,

00:48:21 --> 00:48:23

you're gonna teach them in a way that

00:48:23 --> 00:48:24

has, like, a sensibility

00:48:24 --> 00:48:26

to the learning experience.

00:48:26 --> 00:48:28

Somebody comes on day 1

00:48:29 --> 00:48:32

and says to you, I just became Muslim

00:48:32 --> 00:48:33

this afternoon,

00:48:33 --> 00:48:35

and you're like, you have to learn how

00:48:35 --> 00:48:37

to pray, like, great, teach me, and you

00:48:37 --> 00:48:39

say, well, the first thing you have to

00:48:39 --> 00:48:41

learn is Surah Fateha,

00:48:42 --> 00:48:42

Right?

00:48:43 --> 00:48:45

Which might seem like the most

00:48:45 --> 00:48:47

common sensible thing to say,

00:48:47 --> 00:48:50

but in reality, the first things that they're

00:48:50 --> 00:48:52

gonna be required is is what we're talking

00:48:52 --> 00:48:54

about here in this kind of list,

00:48:55 --> 00:48:55

you know.

00:48:56 --> 00:48:59

And as they start to do this, because

00:48:59 --> 00:49:00

the prayer is obligatory

00:49:00 --> 00:49:01

upon you,

00:49:03 --> 00:49:04

as soon as you become Muslim,

00:49:07 --> 00:49:08

they're gonna have to

00:49:09 --> 00:49:11

get to do these things

00:49:12 --> 00:49:15

as you then move through, like, a learning

00:49:15 --> 00:49:17

process around the rest of it.

00:49:18 --> 00:49:19

Does it make sense?

00:49:19 --> 00:49:23

Okay. So next week, we're gonna talk about

00:49:23 --> 00:49:24

what are the necessary

00:49:24 --> 00:49:25

components.

00:49:25 --> 00:49:27

So here's the skeleton,

00:49:27 --> 00:49:29

and this is what we're gonna build off

00:49:29 --> 00:49:32

of. Right? So when somebody says, what can

00:49:32 --> 00:49:34

I do? I'm new. You remember

00:49:34 --> 00:49:36

we talked about the conditions. One of the

00:49:36 --> 00:49:38

conditions was that

00:49:39 --> 00:49:41

praying within its time, that knowing that the

00:49:41 --> 00:49:43

time has entered. So when the time is

00:49:43 --> 00:49:44

entered,

00:49:44 --> 00:49:46

as you are navigating,

00:49:46 --> 00:49:47

learning how to

00:49:48 --> 00:49:48

read,

00:49:49 --> 00:49:50

part of the Quran,

00:49:51 --> 00:49:52

like the different invocations

00:49:53 --> 00:49:54

and the bowing positions

00:49:54 --> 00:49:56

and the prostrating positions,

00:49:57 --> 00:49:59

You're still just doing a minimum

00:49:59 --> 00:50:02

of this because you have to complete the

00:50:02 --> 00:50:02

prayer,

00:50:03 --> 00:50:04

and it's

00:50:05 --> 00:50:07

a valid reason as somebody who's new to

00:50:07 --> 00:50:09

it that you're going to do just what

00:50:09 --> 00:50:10

is obligatory.

00:50:11 --> 00:50:12

Does that make sense?

00:50:13 --> 00:50:14

Any questions on that?

00:50:14 --> 00:50:15

Yeah.

00:50:30 --> 00:50:32

Yeah. You have to stand if you can

00:50:32 --> 00:50:33

stand.

00:50:33 --> 00:50:34

Right?

00:50:34 --> 00:50:36

There's some people who would say that praying

00:50:36 --> 00:50:37

an obligatory prayer

00:50:38 --> 00:50:40

on a moving vehicle in and of itself

00:50:40 --> 00:50:42

is a problem, but most people would say

00:50:42 --> 00:50:44

it's fine. Right? You can pray on a

00:50:44 --> 00:50:46

plane, you know, but

00:50:46 --> 00:50:46

you

00:50:47 --> 00:50:50

are in a place where, like, considerations have

00:50:50 --> 00:50:51

to be made. Right?

00:50:51 --> 00:50:52

But

00:50:52 --> 00:50:55

this is also just, like, with a generalization.

00:50:55 --> 00:50:57

If you're in a place where you have

00:50:57 --> 00:50:58

a fear of safety, for example,

00:50:59 --> 00:51:01

for some reason, right, You're in a place

00:51:01 --> 00:51:03

where it's something

00:51:03 --> 00:51:07

that kinda adds different variables to it. But

00:51:07 --> 00:51:10

in the most general understanding, yeah, if you're

00:51:10 --> 00:51:11

driving, like,

00:51:11 --> 00:51:13

you and you can get out of your

00:51:13 --> 00:51:14

car to pray, then you get out of

00:51:14 --> 00:51:16

your car to pray. You know what I

00:51:16 --> 00:51:17

mean?

00:51:17 --> 00:51:19

Yeah. Does that make sense?

00:51:21 --> 00:51:21

Okay.

00:51:22 --> 00:51:24

So why don't we take a pause?

00:51:25 --> 00:51:27

We'll pray Maghrib and then come back just

00:51:27 --> 00:51:29

for a little bit. I know last week,

00:51:29 --> 00:51:31

we were here for 2 hours, which I

00:51:31 --> 00:51:33

didn't mind. And I asked the halukkah that

00:51:33 --> 00:51:35

I do on Monday night, which also went

00:51:35 --> 00:51:37

for 2 hours because it started at 6,

00:51:37 --> 00:51:38

and then they're Maghrib.

00:51:38 --> 00:51:40

That is 2 hours, like, too much. I

00:51:40 --> 00:51:41

don't want people to go on a marathon.

00:51:43 --> 00:51:45

So we probably won't go all the way

00:51:45 --> 00:51:47

till 9 like we did last time, just

00:51:47 --> 00:51:49

because we don't wanna exhaust people. But

00:51:50 --> 00:51:52

spend some time and just kinda thinking about

00:51:52 --> 00:51:54

this, how it might be relevant to you

00:51:54 --> 00:51:56

as as you were kinda going through the

00:51:56 --> 00:51:58

learning process, and then we'll come back and

00:51:58 --> 00:52:01

just talk a little bit about prayer itself,

00:52:02 --> 00:52:04

what it kinda how it fits in more

00:52:04 --> 00:52:05

specifically,

00:52:06 --> 00:52:07

and then we'll wrap up.

00:52:08 --> 00:52:10

So people wanna make wudu if they don't

00:52:10 --> 00:52:11

have it,

00:52:11 --> 00:52:13

and then we'll pray and then we'll come

00:52:13 --> 00:52:15

back and and finish them.

00:52:15 --> 00:52:16

Okay.

00:52:31 --> 00:52:33

Yeah. Some of these cameras, I think, are,

00:52:33 --> 00:52:35

like, made they have been just down for

00:52:35 --> 00:52:37

40 5 minutes or, like, this one was

00:52:37 --> 00:52:38

yeah.

00:52:38 --> 00:52:40

This one's, like, 30 minutes when it's tested.

00:52:41 --> 00:52:41

It

00:52:42 --> 00:52:43

was okay for

00:57:03 --> 00:57:04

I

00:57:07 --> 00:57:08

want

00:59:09 --> 00:59:10

I

00:59:13 --> 00:59:14

love.

00:59:33 --> 00:59:34

Along with

01:00:04 --> 01:00:04

the

01:00:05 --> 01:00:06

I'm logged with

01:00:07 --> 01:00:08

them.

01:00:13 --> 01:00:15

Along with along

01:00:18 --> 01:00:18

with

01:00:25 --> 01:00:26

I was with

01:07:21 --> 01:07:21

Okay.

01:07:22 --> 01:07:24

Should we start up again?

01:07:25 --> 01:07:27

Yeah. So just on the question that someone

01:07:27 --> 01:07:28

had asked about

01:07:28 --> 01:07:29

the congregation

01:07:30 --> 01:07:32

and the Chape school,

01:07:34 --> 01:07:35

in terms of how they stand for the

01:07:35 --> 01:07:38

in when it's women praying with women,

01:07:39 --> 01:07:40

they say

01:07:41 --> 01:07:42

the least amount of people needed to form

01:07:42 --> 01:07:45

a congregational prayer is 2 people. If there

01:07:45 --> 01:07:46

are only 2 people praying,

01:07:46 --> 01:07:49

then the followers stand slightly behind the imam

01:07:49 --> 01:07:51

such that their toes are slightly behind the

01:07:51 --> 01:07:52

heel of the imam.

01:07:53 --> 01:07:55

This applies to a male leading another man

01:07:55 --> 01:07:56

or a woman

01:07:56 --> 01:07:59

or women or a woman leading another woman.

01:07:59 --> 01:08:01

If it's a congregation of 3 or more

01:08:01 --> 01:08:02

people,

01:08:03 --> 01:08:05

then the women stand in rows and the

01:08:05 --> 01:08:07

female imam stands in the middle of the

01:08:07 --> 01:08:08

front row.

01:08:09 --> 01:08:11

But there is a difference of opinion if

01:08:11 --> 01:08:13

by middle, it means that you're standing in

01:08:13 --> 01:08:14

line

01:08:15 --> 01:08:16

or that

01:08:16 --> 01:08:17

the

01:08:17 --> 01:08:19

female leading the prayer

01:08:19 --> 01:08:21

would stand slightly ahead of the front row

01:08:21 --> 01:08:24

to distinguish that she's leading the prayer. Does

01:08:24 --> 01:08:25

that make sense?

01:08:25 --> 01:08:26

Yeah.

01:08:29 --> 01:08:31

So in the Hanafi school, there's there's no

01:08:31 --> 01:08:33

concept of, like,

01:08:33 --> 01:08:36

a women's congregational prayer. Right? But

01:08:36 --> 01:08:38

as the question was brought up as per

01:08:38 --> 01:08:39

the Shafi tradition,

01:08:41 --> 01:08:42

that's where they

01:08:43 --> 01:08:44

would think about it.

01:08:45 --> 01:08:46

So,

01:08:47 --> 01:08:49

if people wanna move in who are gonna

01:08:49 --> 01:08:52

be sticking around, just so as people come

01:08:52 --> 01:08:54

in to pray, they don't pray near the

01:08:54 --> 01:08:54

the corners.

01:08:55 --> 01:08:56

You can come pray over here if you

01:08:56 --> 01:08:58

like to. You don't have to pray exactly.

01:08:59 --> 01:09:01

You want to come stand over here? Yeah.

01:09:07 --> 01:09:09

So what I want us to do for

01:09:09 --> 01:09:11

this kind of the the balance of this,

01:09:11 --> 01:09:14

is think of a couple of things. Right?

01:09:14 --> 01:09:14

Like, 1,

01:09:16 --> 01:09:19

why why are, like, these mechanics an important

01:09:19 --> 01:09:20

part to all of this? Do you know

01:09:20 --> 01:09:23

what I mean? Because we want to preemptively

01:09:23 --> 01:09:24

deal with whatever

01:09:24 --> 01:09:27

can potentially come to us. Right? There's gonna

01:09:27 --> 01:09:29

be people who can only be able to

01:09:29 --> 01:09:30

give to us what they have in the

01:09:30 --> 01:09:33

first place. So you might meet somebody who

01:09:33 --> 01:09:34

teaches you to pray

01:09:35 --> 01:09:37

and say that from day 1, you have

01:09:37 --> 01:09:39

to be able to do what we're gonna

01:09:39 --> 01:09:41

get to in its entirety in the next

01:09:41 --> 01:09:44

couple of weeks as opposed to here's the.

01:09:44 --> 01:09:46

You're a new Muslim. You gotta pray your

01:09:46 --> 01:09:49

prayer. It's obligatory upon you, but you're still

01:09:49 --> 01:09:51

going through this. Right? This,

01:09:51 --> 01:09:54

if you compare to what we just did

01:09:54 --> 01:09:56

versus what is the bare minimum,

01:09:57 --> 01:09:59

there is, like, so much that we did

01:09:59 --> 01:10:01

that's not listed here. Right? And I want

01:10:01 --> 01:10:03

you to think about this experientially

01:10:04 --> 01:10:04

because

01:10:04 --> 01:10:06

where and how in the course of now

01:10:06 --> 01:10:09

entire windows of time that we talked about

01:10:09 --> 01:10:12

last week. Remember, I drew the diagram, degree

01:10:12 --> 01:10:13

markers, etcetera.

01:10:14 --> 01:10:16

You're new to it. Let yourself be new

01:10:16 --> 01:10:18

to it. Right? You're trying to learn it.

01:10:18 --> 01:10:20

Be patient also with those

01:10:20 --> 01:10:23

who are just learning it. Right? Some of

01:10:23 --> 01:10:24

us are gonna be in a place where

01:10:25 --> 01:10:27

you are gonna have a relationship with somebody

01:10:27 --> 01:10:30

who's Muslim. Their family might be Muslim.

01:10:30 --> 01:10:32

Right? They might not be able to explain

01:10:32 --> 01:10:33

to you

01:10:33 --> 01:10:35

that you are going at a pace that

01:10:35 --> 01:10:38

makes sense for you, not at their pace.

01:10:38 --> 01:10:40

Do you get what I mean? Because if

01:10:40 --> 01:10:42

they've been Muslim their whole life and you've

01:10:42 --> 01:10:45

been Muslim for a week, that is not

01:10:45 --> 01:10:47

the same thing. Do you get what I

01:10:47 --> 01:10:50

mean? You're learning. You're going through a reasonable

01:10:50 --> 01:10:52

learning process, still nonetheless.

01:10:53 --> 01:10:55

But if you see

01:10:55 --> 01:10:58

what it actually takes to just go through

01:10:58 --> 01:10:58

this,

01:10:59 --> 01:11:00

you could do this

01:11:00 --> 01:11:02

in a matter of, like,

01:11:03 --> 01:11:05

25 seconds, 20 seconds,

01:11:05 --> 01:11:08

realistically speaking. Do you get what I mean?

01:11:08 --> 01:11:10

And why we wanna put that out there

01:11:10 --> 01:11:13

so that the anxieties that come up, how

01:11:13 --> 01:11:14

do I do this in my place of

01:11:14 --> 01:11:16

work? How do I do this, you know,

01:11:16 --> 01:11:18

at this time or that time? Right?

01:11:19 --> 01:11:19

Fundamentally,

01:11:20 --> 01:11:21

the notion

01:11:21 --> 01:11:22

in this religion

01:11:22 --> 01:11:25

is that God understands his creation.

01:11:26 --> 01:11:27

You hear what I mean?

01:11:28 --> 01:11:31

So if there wasn't an opportunity to understand

01:11:32 --> 01:11:32

that

01:11:33 --> 01:11:35

if I am born in New Jersey

01:11:35 --> 01:11:38

and I'm a native English speaker and I

01:11:38 --> 01:11:39

convert to Islam

01:11:40 --> 01:11:42

and I literally have to pray the prayer

01:11:43 --> 01:11:46

that is incumbent on me to pray.

01:11:46 --> 01:11:47

How could I fundamentally

01:11:49 --> 01:11:50

know how to do it

01:11:51 --> 01:11:53

every step in the language that I've never

01:11:53 --> 01:11:55

spoken? You get what I mean? Because not

01:11:55 --> 01:11:57

everybody converts to Islam

01:11:58 --> 01:12:00

because they found beauty in the prayer or

01:12:00 --> 01:12:03

they practice being Muslim for a year or

01:12:03 --> 01:12:06

5. Some people did. Right? Each person's got

01:12:06 --> 01:12:07

kind of their own trajectory.

01:12:08 --> 01:12:10

I've met people who literally have seen us

01:12:10 --> 01:12:11

praying from the park,

01:12:12 --> 01:12:13

and they came up here and they said,

01:12:13 --> 01:12:15

what are you all doing?

01:12:16 --> 01:12:19

And we told them. And after, like, 30,

01:12:19 --> 01:12:21

40 minutes, they're like, I wanna become Muslim.

01:12:22 --> 01:12:24

They don't even know we pray 5 times

01:12:24 --> 01:12:26

a day. You know what I mean?

01:12:26 --> 01:12:28

And then we're gonna be like, great. Here's

01:12:28 --> 01:12:31

this list of things that you suddenly now

01:12:31 --> 01:12:33

have to figure out how to do in

01:12:33 --> 01:12:34

the next 20 minutes.

01:12:34 --> 01:12:36

Do do you get what I mean? Right?

01:12:37 --> 01:12:39

This is why they say different opinions are

01:12:39 --> 01:12:40

a mercy.

01:12:41 --> 01:12:43

You know? We think about it in terms

01:12:43 --> 01:12:45

of recognition that I'm not

01:12:45 --> 01:12:48

in a lonely journey, but I'm not where

01:12:48 --> 01:12:50

the other person is.

01:12:50 --> 01:12:53

You know? And you don't wanna become somebody's

01:12:53 --> 01:12:54

homework project

01:12:54 --> 01:12:56

that they now assess you based off of

01:12:56 --> 01:12:58

where they're standing in relation to religion. You

01:12:58 --> 01:13:00

get what I mean? There's a sister I

01:13:00 --> 01:13:01

was talking to

01:13:01 --> 01:13:03

just recently,

01:13:03 --> 01:13:07

and she's, you know, trying to figure out,

01:13:07 --> 01:13:09

should I start wearing, like, a headscarf or

01:13:09 --> 01:13:11

not? Good job. And she said, all these

01:13:11 --> 01:13:14

people told me there's no point to just

01:13:14 --> 01:13:15

trying to wear it a couple of days

01:13:15 --> 01:13:17

and then not wearing it a couple of

01:13:17 --> 01:13:19

days. If you're not gonna wear it every

01:13:19 --> 01:13:21

day, you shouldn't wear it. Right? And she's

01:13:21 --> 01:13:22

like, what do you think? I was like,

01:13:22 --> 01:13:24

don't listen to stupid people. That's what I

01:13:24 --> 01:13:28

think. Right? Like, most people don't realize what

01:13:28 --> 01:13:30

they're saying in their head doesn't sound the

01:13:30 --> 01:13:32

way that the person receiving it is hearing

01:13:32 --> 01:13:34

it. You get what I mean? There's a

01:13:34 --> 01:13:37

kid who came to this school

01:13:38 --> 01:13:38

and,

01:13:39 --> 01:13:41

like, in the 1st semester, just in the

01:13:41 --> 01:13:43

fall, he came to sat me. He's like,

01:13:43 --> 01:13:44

I'm born into Islam.

01:13:44 --> 01:13:47

I've never prayed in my life. I said,

01:13:47 --> 01:13:48

okay.

01:13:48 --> 01:13:51

And then he prayed for the first time

01:13:51 --> 01:13:52

in congregation.

01:13:52 --> 01:13:54

And he said, today is the first time

01:13:54 --> 01:13:56

I've ever prayed in congregation. I said, great,

01:13:56 --> 01:13:57

man. Congratulations.

01:13:58 --> 01:14:00

A month later, he said, today is the

01:14:00 --> 01:14:01

first time

01:14:01 --> 01:14:02

I've ever prayed

01:14:03 --> 01:14:05

3 times in a day.

01:14:06 --> 01:14:07

And then a month after that, he said,

01:14:07 --> 01:14:09

today is the first time I ever prayed

01:14:09 --> 01:14:12

3 prayers in congregation in my life.

01:14:13 --> 01:14:14

Now he's praying

01:14:14 --> 01:14:17

5 times a day. He's on top of

01:14:17 --> 01:14:18

his prayer.

01:14:18 --> 01:14:20

He is in a place where where he

01:14:20 --> 01:14:21

came from,

01:14:21 --> 01:14:23

informs where he is right now. Do you

01:14:23 --> 01:14:24

get what I mean?

01:14:25 --> 01:14:27

But he's gotta start somewhere. Does that make

01:14:27 --> 01:14:28

sense?

01:14:28 --> 01:14:30

Why am I saying this? It's because

01:14:31 --> 01:14:32

you will meet many Muslims

01:14:33 --> 01:14:36

who they are going to give you perspectives

01:14:36 --> 01:14:38

that don't allow for there to be

01:14:39 --> 01:14:41

a trajectory that

01:14:41 --> 01:14:44

has a sense of just how you can

01:14:44 --> 01:14:44

kind of develop

01:14:45 --> 01:14:47

in a way in relation to some of

01:14:47 --> 01:14:49

these things. Do you get what I mean?

01:14:49 --> 01:14:50

Yeah.

01:14:50 --> 01:14:52

The mechanics are not unimportant.

01:14:53 --> 01:14:55

Right? So in movement transitions,

01:14:56 --> 01:14:58

it can't look like it's just one big

01:14:58 --> 01:14:59

motion.

01:14:59 --> 01:15:01

You know what I mean? So when you're

01:15:01 --> 01:15:04

going from position to position, there's gotta be

01:15:04 --> 01:15:07

some rest in there. Right? Because if it

01:15:07 --> 01:15:09

looks like I just was standing and then

01:15:09 --> 01:15:11

all of a sudden, I did everything in,

01:15:11 --> 01:15:12

like, one swooping motion,

01:15:13 --> 01:15:15

then that's not different motions.

01:15:15 --> 01:15:19

Right? That then is just one kinda consistent.

01:15:19 --> 01:15:22

So you're going, and then there's stillness,

01:15:22 --> 01:15:24

and then there's stillness.

01:15:24 --> 01:15:25

You know what I mean? Doesn't have to

01:15:25 --> 01:15:29

be, like, tons of stillness, but just stillness.

01:15:29 --> 01:15:31

You know? We were praying. My kids were

01:15:31 --> 01:15:32

praying behind somebody

01:15:33 --> 01:15:35

for his, like, prostration. It was, like, long,

01:15:35 --> 01:15:37

man. Right? And my kids,

01:15:38 --> 01:15:40

they're amazing, but they like to talk a

01:15:40 --> 01:15:42

lot. You know? And we finished.

01:15:43 --> 01:15:45

And in the prayer, my son is like,

01:15:45 --> 01:15:48

was he is he okay? Right? And I'm

01:15:48 --> 01:15:49

like,

01:15:49 --> 01:15:51

like, what do I do right now? I

01:15:51 --> 01:15:53

don't know what to do. You know? And

01:15:53 --> 01:15:56

then afterwards, like, Baba, what happened? Like, did

01:15:56 --> 01:15:58

he fall asleep? I was like, no, Karim.

01:15:58 --> 01:16:00

He's like, Baba, you said fall asleep and

01:16:00 --> 01:16:01

we'll do breaks. Right? I was like, go

01:16:01 --> 01:16:03

to sleep and scream. You know?

01:16:04 --> 01:16:05

But understanding,

01:16:05 --> 01:16:08

like, when you're starting, you're starting off. Do

01:16:08 --> 01:16:09

Do you get what I mean? You gotta

01:16:09 --> 01:16:12

be patient with yourself. Right? If you are

01:16:12 --> 01:16:12

born

01:16:13 --> 01:16:14

into this religion,

01:16:14 --> 01:16:17

you're teaching somebody how to pray. You're leading

01:16:17 --> 01:16:19

them in prayer. You have to understand as

01:16:19 --> 01:16:21

they go through the learning process,

01:16:23 --> 01:16:25

they're not gonna be able to say everything

01:16:25 --> 01:16:26

in each position

01:16:27 --> 01:16:29

as quickly as you might be able to

01:16:29 --> 01:16:29

say it.

01:16:31 --> 01:16:32

Do you get what I mean?

01:16:33 --> 01:16:36

So you could blaze through Surah Fateha,

01:16:36 --> 01:16:37

which is

01:16:38 --> 01:16:41

a of the prayer, according to Hanafi school,

01:16:41 --> 01:16:43

and you finish its recitation

01:16:44 --> 01:16:46

by the time somebody who's just new to

01:16:46 --> 01:16:48

it, like, got through its first verse.

01:16:49 --> 01:16:50

You see what I mean?

01:16:51 --> 01:16:53

The prophet Muhammad when he led people in

01:16:53 --> 01:16:55

prayer, peace and blessings be upon him.

01:16:56 --> 01:16:58

He was conscious of the congregation he was

01:16:58 --> 01:16:59

leading.

01:16:59 --> 01:17:01

So if a baby

01:17:02 --> 01:17:05

cried, he hastened the prayer. He shortened, like,

01:17:05 --> 01:17:05

his recitation.

01:17:06 --> 01:17:09

He didn't wanna create undue hardship for the

01:17:09 --> 01:17:12

mother. Right? There's elders praying with you. You're

01:17:12 --> 01:17:13

not going on a marathon

01:17:13 --> 01:17:15

in the course of the prayer, especially in

01:17:15 --> 01:17:16

praying congregation,

01:17:17 --> 01:17:19

but also just be mindful. And for yourself

01:17:19 --> 01:17:22

who's new to it, it's okay, like, as

01:17:22 --> 01:17:24

you're going through it, that you go through

01:17:24 --> 01:17:26

it slowly. Do you get what I mean?

01:17:27 --> 01:17:30

And you're adding in components as you're learning

01:17:30 --> 01:17:30

them.

01:17:31 --> 01:17:33

The goal isn't to get faster

01:17:34 --> 01:17:35

as an objective,

01:17:36 --> 01:17:39

especially at the expense of mindfulness.

01:17:40 --> 01:17:40

Right?

01:17:41 --> 01:17:44

But the goal is to build and create

01:17:44 --> 01:17:45

a relationship to this

01:17:46 --> 01:17:48

in a way that allows for it to

01:17:48 --> 01:17:51

still be a spiritual act. Because in Islam,

01:17:51 --> 01:17:52

we're not praying,

01:17:52 --> 01:17:54

but we're praying to God.

01:17:55 --> 01:17:56

Do you get what I mean?

01:17:56 --> 01:17:58

It can get really agitating

01:17:59 --> 01:18:00

if the expectations

01:18:01 --> 01:18:02

are unreasonable,

01:18:04 --> 01:18:06

and it doesn't, like, function in this way

01:18:06 --> 01:18:09

of better. Because how is it better? Right?

01:18:09 --> 01:18:10

I'm a 40 year old man. My job

01:18:10 --> 01:18:11

is to be Muslim.

01:18:12 --> 01:18:16

Right? Literally, there's a office right here around

01:18:16 --> 01:18:17

the corner and a office down the hall.

01:18:17 --> 01:18:18

That's my office.

01:18:19 --> 01:18:20

I can walk here any point in time

01:18:20 --> 01:18:22

of the day I want to.

01:18:23 --> 01:18:25

How can I reasonably tell somebody who's new

01:18:25 --> 01:18:28

to this that you're supposed to be doing

01:18:28 --> 01:18:28

it

01:18:29 --> 01:18:31

the way that I've been doing it for

01:18:31 --> 01:18:31

decades

01:18:32 --> 01:18:34

and then use a term like it's better

01:18:34 --> 01:18:36

if you do? Do you get what I

01:18:36 --> 01:18:37

mean?

01:18:37 --> 01:18:40

You might actually be in a place where

01:18:40 --> 01:18:42

somebody is teaching you this, and they're not

01:18:42 --> 01:18:45

giving you the steps that is not actually

01:18:45 --> 01:18:47

better for you. It's actually making it harder

01:18:47 --> 01:18:49

for you. Do you get what I'm saying?

01:18:49 --> 01:18:50

Does that make sense?

01:18:51 --> 01:18:51

Yeah.

01:18:52 --> 01:18:52

So

01:18:53 --> 01:18:56

start in a place where you know how

01:18:56 --> 01:18:58

to make will do, like, make it will

01:18:58 --> 01:19:01

do well. Right? You honor the timings of

01:19:01 --> 01:19:04

the prayer, and you can literally do this

01:19:04 --> 01:19:05

this whole thing

01:19:06 --> 01:19:07

in, like,

01:19:07 --> 01:19:09

10, 20 seconds. Do you know what I

01:19:09 --> 01:19:10

mean?

01:19:10 --> 01:19:12

It might not be

01:19:13 --> 01:19:14

spiritually engaging

01:19:15 --> 01:19:17

if you see it through the prism of

01:19:17 --> 01:19:19

what's not there. But if you see it

01:19:19 --> 01:19:22

in terms of you're exactly where you're supposed

01:19:22 --> 01:19:23

to be in relation to it,

01:19:24 --> 01:19:27

and what you're yielding to is not, I'm

01:19:27 --> 01:19:27

gonna pray

01:19:28 --> 01:19:31

because I feel something through the prayer, but

01:19:31 --> 01:19:34

you're shifting and it's I'm gonna pray because

01:19:34 --> 01:19:35

God told me to pray.

01:19:36 --> 01:19:37

Does that make sense?

01:19:38 --> 01:19:41

The performance of our daily prayers

01:19:41 --> 01:19:42

is an obligation.

01:19:44 --> 01:19:45

The 5 daily prayers

01:19:46 --> 01:19:47

comes to us

01:19:47 --> 01:19:51

in a particular moment where the prophet Muhammad,

01:19:51 --> 01:19:53

peace and blessings be upon him,

01:19:53 --> 01:19:56

he goes from his home to the city

01:19:56 --> 01:19:56

of Jerusalem

01:19:57 --> 01:20:00

and then ascends into the heavens on a

01:20:00 --> 01:20:03

night journey. In Arabic, it's called the Israa

01:20:03 --> 01:20:04

wa Mirage,

01:20:05 --> 01:20:07

and it's very vividly described in the prophetic

01:20:07 --> 01:20:08

tradition.

01:20:08 --> 01:20:10

One of the things that happens is in

01:20:10 --> 01:20:11

Jerusalem,

01:20:11 --> 01:20:14

the prophet Mohammed prays with every prophet

01:20:14 --> 01:20:16

ever sent to mankind.

01:20:17 --> 01:20:20

And if you go to Jerusalem now, you

01:20:20 --> 01:20:23

can actually see the spaces that are there,

01:20:23 --> 01:20:26

that are preserved, that these stories are attached

01:20:26 --> 01:20:26

to.

01:20:27 --> 01:20:29

And when he ascends into the heavens,

01:20:30 --> 01:20:33

he meets a different prophet at every level

01:20:33 --> 01:20:33

of heaven.

01:20:34 --> 01:20:36

And as he gets

01:20:36 --> 01:20:37

to the last level,

01:20:38 --> 01:20:40

he engages in conversation

01:20:41 --> 01:20:42

with Moses, peace be upon him.

01:20:43 --> 01:20:46

And then from there, the prophet has direct

01:20:47 --> 01:20:48

interaction with Allah.

01:20:49 --> 01:20:52

How that functions? We don't know.

01:20:52 --> 01:20:54

Right? The way we have physical prostrations in

01:20:54 --> 01:20:55

this religion,

01:20:56 --> 01:20:58

sometimes this religion also requires mental prostrations.

01:20:59 --> 01:21:03

Right? There's not any type of anthropomorphic understandings

01:21:03 --> 01:21:04

within Islam as a tradition.

01:21:05 --> 01:21:06

In the course of that

01:21:07 --> 01:21:07

interaction,

01:21:08 --> 01:21:10

one of the things that the prophet Muhammad

01:21:10 --> 01:21:13

alaihis salam has given, peace be upon him,

01:21:13 --> 01:21:15

is this gift of

01:21:16 --> 01:21:16

daily prayers.

01:21:17 --> 01:21:19

And what it starts off with is 50.

01:21:20 --> 01:21:22

And then he comes down and Moses says

01:21:22 --> 01:21:23

to him,

01:21:23 --> 01:21:24

what happened?

01:21:24 --> 01:21:27

And he says, I got 50 prayers. And

01:21:27 --> 01:21:29

Moses says, go back.

01:21:29 --> 01:21:31

Your people are not gonna pray 50 times

01:21:31 --> 01:21:32

a day.

01:21:32 --> 01:21:35

He said, my people, they left behind what

01:21:35 --> 01:21:38

was required of them. Yours are gonna definitely

01:21:38 --> 01:21:38

leave it behind.

01:21:39 --> 01:21:42

The prophet goes back and forth again and

01:21:42 --> 01:21:45

again, and each time Musa alayhi salam Moses,

01:21:45 --> 01:21:47

he says, go back. They're not gonna do

01:21:48 --> 01:21:50

it. Until it gets to 5,

01:21:51 --> 01:21:52

and Allah tells the prophet,

01:21:53 --> 01:21:55

you will have 5 that you perform, but

01:21:55 --> 01:21:57

it'll be written as if it's 50.

01:21:58 --> 01:22:00

And he comes down and Musa alaihi salam,

01:22:00 --> 01:22:02

Moses says to him again, like, go back.

01:22:03 --> 01:22:04

The prophet says I'm embarrassed now. Like, I

01:22:04 --> 01:22:07

can't I can't keep going back. Right? But

01:22:07 --> 01:22:09

the fundamental idea in this religion

01:22:10 --> 01:22:12

is that we were made to do 50.

01:22:13 --> 01:22:15

That was like the the idea, but it

01:22:15 --> 01:22:17

was reduced to 5.

01:22:17 --> 01:22:20

And this as a class

01:22:21 --> 01:22:23

of, like, basics of Islam,

01:22:24 --> 01:22:26

regardless of what any Muslim

01:22:26 --> 01:22:28

has a capacity to do

01:22:28 --> 01:22:30

in the sense of what they believe or

01:22:30 --> 01:22:32

what they might tell you based off their

01:22:32 --> 01:22:33

own practice,

01:22:33 --> 01:22:36

Muslims are required to pray 5 times a

01:22:36 --> 01:22:36

day.

01:22:38 --> 01:22:39

Not when it's convenient,

01:22:40 --> 01:22:42

not when it's easy,

01:22:43 --> 01:22:46

within the windows of time. We're gonna talk

01:22:46 --> 01:22:48

probably in 3 or 4 weeks about what

01:22:48 --> 01:22:50

happens if you miss a prayer. You gotta

01:22:50 --> 01:22:51

make it up.

01:22:52 --> 01:22:55

But if anybody's telling you as a default,

01:22:56 --> 01:22:56

it's okay

01:22:57 --> 01:22:57

that

01:22:58 --> 01:22:59

you, like,

01:23:00 --> 01:23:02

sleep through 1 or you're at work, so

01:23:02 --> 01:23:04

just pray the rest at home. That's not

01:23:04 --> 01:23:06

how it fundamentally works.

01:23:07 --> 01:23:09

So where also you want to build a

01:23:09 --> 01:23:11

relationship with the timings

01:23:11 --> 01:23:13

to understand that doing

01:23:14 --> 01:23:15

as you're learning

01:23:15 --> 01:23:18

what is required in the can

01:23:18 --> 01:23:20

also allow for that to be done

01:23:21 --> 01:23:23

in a shorter amount of time

01:23:24 --> 01:23:26

that doesn't really have too much that goes

01:23:26 --> 01:23:27

into it fundamentally.

01:23:28 --> 01:23:29

You wanna try your best. You know what

01:23:29 --> 01:23:30

I mean?

01:23:31 --> 01:23:34

I don't know what everyone's circumstances in the

01:23:34 --> 01:23:36

room, but I know I've met enough people

01:23:36 --> 01:23:37

who are exploring Islam,

01:23:38 --> 01:23:40

who convert to Islam

01:23:40 --> 01:23:43

recent or otherwise or even born into it.

01:23:43 --> 01:23:45

Right? I sat down with somebody who once

01:23:45 --> 01:23:49

told me that her grandmother told her that

01:23:49 --> 01:23:51

if you miss fudger, it's okay because there's

01:23:51 --> 01:23:54

another prayer that you can pray that is

01:23:54 --> 01:23:56

called the sub prayer

01:23:56 --> 01:23:58

that after fudger, you just pray that if

01:23:58 --> 01:24:00

you miss fudger. And I said, no. It's

01:24:00 --> 01:24:02

not it's not a thing. Right? Like, you

01:24:02 --> 01:24:04

pray fudger in the time of fudger. If

01:24:04 --> 01:24:06

you miss fudger, you make up fudger because

01:24:06 --> 01:24:09

you're required to make up fudger. You know?

01:24:09 --> 01:24:11

People would tell you all kinds of things.

01:24:11 --> 01:24:12

There's 5

01:24:13 --> 01:24:14

prayers in a day.

01:24:15 --> 01:24:16

Where there's different opinions

01:24:16 --> 01:24:18

is not on whether there's 5 prayers or

01:24:18 --> 01:24:21

not, but on what the timings are of

01:24:21 --> 01:24:22

those prayers.

01:24:22 --> 01:24:25

What the windows of time are of those

01:24:25 --> 01:24:25

prayers.

01:24:27 --> 01:24:29

The Sunni tradition, there's 5 separate

01:24:30 --> 01:24:31

windows of time

01:24:32 --> 01:24:36

in your generic prayer. When you're traveling, there's

01:24:36 --> 01:24:38

different things. You can combine prayers and stuff.

01:24:38 --> 01:24:41

The Shia tradition, there's still 5 different prayers,

01:24:41 --> 01:24:42

but there's also

01:24:43 --> 01:24:44

room to pray

01:24:45 --> 01:24:47

Asar and Dohar together. They call it Doharain

01:24:48 --> 01:24:50

and Magrib and Isha together, Magrib Bain, but

01:24:50 --> 01:24:52

they're still praying 5 separate prayers.

01:24:53 --> 01:24:55

In the Hanafi school, there's a different perspective

01:24:55 --> 01:24:57

on when Azer starts

01:24:57 --> 01:24:58

in terms of

01:24:59 --> 01:25:01

it being a little later than what most

01:25:01 --> 01:25:02

people would say,

01:25:03 --> 01:25:05

But everybody agrees there's 5 of them,

01:25:06 --> 01:25:07

and it's fundamentally

01:25:08 --> 01:25:10

considered to be the most

01:25:10 --> 01:25:12

foundational and important

01:25:13 --> 01:25:16

kinda ritual within the course of a Muslim

01:25:16 --> 01:25:18

person's life and their relationship to God.

01:25:19 --> 01:25:22

So you wanna make sure that you're consistent

01:25:22 --> 01:25:24

with it, that you have a relationship to

01:25:24 --> 01:25:26

it. But in a way, we're also you

01:25:26 --> 01:25:28

understand it's an exercise

01:25:28 --> 01:25:30

and that the performance of it with regularity

01:25:31 --> 01:25:34

is what's a necessary mechanic in order for

01:25:34 --> 01:25:37

it to yield, like, the inward transform made

01:25:37 --> 01:25:40

of kind of things. Right? But it's not

01:25:40 --> 01:25:41

one of those things. So if somebody says

01:25:41 --> 01:25:43

to me like, hey, man. I'm new to

01:25:43 --> 01:25:44

this.

01:25:44 --> 01:25:46

I don't know how to do this around

01:25:46 --> 01:25:47

my family.

01:25:48 --> 01:25:50

They don't even know I'm Muslim yet.

01:25:51 --> 01:25:53

Or I don't know how to do this

01:25:53 --> 01:25:54

at work.

01:25:55 --> 01:25:56

I don't know how to do this here

01:25:56 --> 01:25:56

or there.

01:25:57 --> 01:25:59

You still gotta do, like, what you can.

01:25:59 --> 01:26:00

Do you know what I mean?

01:26:01 --> 01:26:03

Don't be in a place where that young

01:26:03 --> 01:26:05

woman who came to see me,

01:26:05 --> 01:26:08

who said, I was excited to practice

01:26:08 --> 01:26:09

wearing hijab.

01:26:10 --> 01:26:12

And then I talked to these Muslims, and

01:26:12 --> 01:26:14

they made me feel like I'm terrible just

01:26:14 --> 01:26:16

because I thought I wanted to try it

01:26:16 --> 01:26:16

out sometimes.

01:26:17 --> 01:26:20

So get done what you can get done

01:26:20 --> 01:26:22

as you're building this relationship with it.

01:26:23 --> 01:26:23

But

01:26:24 --> 01:26:25

the fundamental understanding

01:26:25 --> 01:26:27

is that there's 5, and you do them

01:26:27 --> 01:26:29

in their windows of time. Do you get

01:26:29 --> 01:26:31

what I mean? Does that make sense?

01:26:31 --> 01:26:33

Any questions on that?

01:26:34 --> 01:26:37

Where and how we're gonna go through over

01:26:37 --> 01:26:40

the course of the next couple of weeks,

01:26:40 --> 01:26:41

these other components,

01:26:41 --> 01:26:43

you build time into your routine.

01:26:44 --> 01:26:46

Right? As you are learning these things,

01:26:47 --> 01:26:48

different language,

01:26:48 --> 01:26:50

different structure,

01:26:50 --> 01:26:53

it's really hard. You went an entire day

01:26:54 --> 01:26:56

without having to now figure out how

01:26:57 --> 01:26:59

to do this, and you have a routine

01:26:59 --> 01:27:00

and now you have to build these things

01:27:00 --> 01:27:02

in. The hardest part for a lot of

01:27:02 --> 01:27:05

people isn't gonna necessarily just be about, like,

01:27:05 --> 01:27:06

the

01:27:06 --> 01:27:09

learning of words and these things, but how

01:27:09 --> 01:27:11

do I, like, create a new schedule for

01:27:11 --> 01:27:12

myself?

01:27:12 --> 01:27:14

I've lived so many years, and now I

01:27:14 --> 01:27:16

have to, like, figure out how to

01:27:17 --> 01:27:19

do something that I just never did before.

01:27:19 --> 01:27:21

That's why I just you gotta, you know,

01:27:21 --> 01:27:23

you're it's it's gonna have some learning curves

01:27:23 --> 01:27:25

to it. Do you know what I mean?

01:27:25 --> 01:27:27

That's just the reality of it. You wanna

01:27:27 --> 01:27:30

be reasonable with yourself in that in that

01:27:30 --> 01:27:30

space.

01:27:31 --> 01:27:32

So as you go,

01:27:33 --> 01:27:34

where you're

01:27:35 --> 01:27:37

adding as you learn things, but you're building

01:27:37 --> 01:27:40

into your routine, just deliberate time for learning.

01:27:40 --> 01:27:42

One of the things that we're gonna do

01:27:42 --> 01:27:44

as we kinda move through the summer, we're

01:27:44 --> 01:27:47

gonna bring back, like, kind of a buddy

01:27:47 --> 01:27:49

program that we had. We're gonna do some

01:27:49 --> 01:27:50

kinda

01:27:51 --> 01:27:52

trainings so that people

01:27:53 --> 01:27:54

want to help

01:27:54 --> 01:27:56

our Convert community or those who are trying

01:27:56 --> 01:27:58

to build a relationship with the basics.

01:27:58 --> 01:28:00

You know, they're in a place where we

01:28:00 --> 01:28:01

have kind of a people are on the

01:28:01 --> 01:28:03

same page as to how they'll do that

01:28:03 --> 01:28:04

instruction and

01:28:07 --> 01:28:09

bear with us. We apologize, but COVID threw

01:28:09 --> 01:28:12

off a lot of things for us. And,

01:28:12 --> 01:28:14

being here at NYU has been great, but

01:28:14 --> 01:28:17

also the COVID protocol that they had was

01:28:17 --> 01:28:17

lifted

01:28:17 --> 01:28:18

well

01:28:25 --> 01:28:27

But those, we hope, are gonna be things

01:28:27 --> 01:28:28

also that help in the process as people

01:28:28 --> 01:28:30

are trying to learn things. So you're not

01:28:30 --> 01:28:33

just turning to the Internet alone. So the

01:28:33 --> 01:28:36

other things I'll say here is that this

01:28:36 --> 01:28:38

is according to the Hanafi school

01:28:39 --> 01:28:41

of legal thought. The Sunni school of thought,

01:28:42 --> 01:28:44

you can go online and type in different

01:28:44 --> 01:28:47

things that would give you different perspectives on

01:28:47 --> 01:28:48

some of this. Right?

01:28:49 --> 01:28:53

But that doesn't make it better or worse

01:28:53 --> 01:28:55

or more or less valid.

01:28:55 --> 01:28:59

There's different evidences and different opinions to it,

01:28:59 --> 01:29:01

and they're based off of, like, an entire

01:29:01 --> 01:29:02

methodology.

01:29:02 --> 01:29:04

You know? And I would say with your

01:29:04 --> 01:29:06

prayer, just because it's an important thing. Right?

01:29:06 --> 01:29:09

It's different from, like, reading other stuff.

01:29:09 --> 01:29:11

One of the things you wanna do is

01:29:11 --> 01:29:14

just double check with somebody in person if

01:29:14 --> 01:29:16

you're engaging something online.

01:29:16 --> 01:29:18

And you'll find also, like,

01:29:19 --> 01:29:21

different sites adopt different methodologies

01:29:22 --> 01:29:24

that it'll seem like they're in conflict with

01:29:24 --> 01:29:27

each other. But they're really not. They're just

01:29:27 --> 01:29:27

kind

01:29:28 --> 01:29:30

of adding, like, a different kind of prism

01:29:30 --> 01:29:32

to it, so to speak, if that makes

01:29:32 --> 01:29:33

sense. Right?

01:29:33 --> 01:29:35

And we're here to help in whatever way

01:29:35 --> 01:29:37

we can on this. We'll take it very

01:29:37 --> 01:29:38

seriously

01:29:38 --> 01:29:41

because we are in a place where,

01:29:42 --> 01:29:43

you know,

01:29:44 --> 01:29:46

it's 1, our own accountability with God. But

01:29:46 --> 01:29:49

2, like, it's supposed to be like an

01:29:49 --> 01:29:52

oasis, your prayer. You know? Like, a a

01:29:52 --> 01:29:54

place that is not gonna feel a certain

01:29:54 --> 01:29:55

way. You might not know what it's doing

01:29:55 --> 01:29:58

to you, but it's still replenishing in some

01:29:58 --> 01:30:00

capacity. Right? So getting the form and the

01:30:00 --> 01:30:03

mechanics down so that that anxiety subsides,

01:30:03 --> 01:30:05

and then it allows for it to have

01:30:05 --> 01:30:08

the openings that it's meant to have. Last

01:30:08 --> 01:30:10

thing I wanted to say was, you know,

01:30:10 --> 01:30:12

someone might say, like, well, why is it

01:30:12 --> 01:30:13

not just

01:30:13 --> 01:30:16

everything fits into some of these boxes neatly?

01:30:16 --> 01:30:18

Right? That we look at something

01:30:19 --> 01:30:21

and just through its meaning, you can say,

01:30:21 --> 01:30:24

well, it's either prohibited or obligatory.

01:30:24 --> 01:30:27

1, like scholars of the past, they were

01:30:27 --> 01:30:28

very hesitant

01:30:29 --> 01:30:30

in naming something

01:30:31 --> 01:30:33

as being strictly prohibited

01:30:34 --> 01:30:35

or obligatory

01:30:36 --> 01:30:38

unless there was a concrete basis to this.

01:30:39 --> 01:30:41

Because what they were trying to do

01:30:41 --> 01:30:43

was as best as they can understand what

01:30:43 --> 01:30:47

god wanted from them, right, and what god

01:30:47 --> 01:30:49

ultimately wants from all of us. And so

01:30:49 --> 01:30:52

the goal wasn't, like, let's just become as

01:30:52 --> 01:30:53

restrictive as possible

01:30:54 --> 01:30:56

or just label things like absentmindedly.

01:30:57 --> 01:30:58

Right? So these terms

01:30:58 --> 01:31:01

have actual meanings to them, and they are

01:31:01 --> 01:31:02

gonna only say

01:31:03 --> 01:31:04

you are obligated

01:31:04 --> 01:31:05

to do something

01:31:05 --> 01:31:08

or prohibited to do something

01:31:08 --> 01:31:09

if it was definitively

01:31:11 --> 01:31:11

understood

01:31:11 --> 01:31:13

that these are what these things were.

01:31:14 --> 01:31:16

And where you get these other categories in

01:31:16 --> 01:31:17

that spectrum

01:31:17 --> 01:31:20

is because there was a hesitation in saying

01:31:20 --> 01:31:22

you have to do something

01:31:22 --> 01:31:25

if that wasn't something that was just explicitly,

01:31:25 --> 01:31:27

clearly understood.

01:31:27 --> 01:31:29

Do you know what I mean? Right? And

01:31:29 --> 01:31:31

so as you're talking to people, and they

01:31:31 --> 01:31:34

might not know these things. Right? They just

01:31:34 --> 01:31:35

attach words and qualifications.

01:31:36 --> 01:31:38

You wanna orient yourself to kind of the

01:31:38 --> 01:31:41

base of some of these so that you're

01:31:41 --> 01:31:41

able to

01:31:42 --> 01:31:42

familiarize

01:31:43 --> 01:31:45

as people are saying. And somebody could

01:31:45 --> 01:31:47

tell you, well, this is like like, you

01:31:47 --> 01:31:49

have to do this thing. You could be

01:31:49 --> 01:31:51

like, no. Like, I learned these are the

01:31:51 --> 01:31:53

things I have to do. Right? Those are

01:31:53 --> 01:31:55

other things that are important, but they're not

01:31:55 --> 01:31:58

in that kind of level of categorization.

01:31:58 --> 01:32:00

Do you get what I mean? Does that

01:32:00 --> 01:32:01

make sense?

01:32:01 --> 01:32:03

Yes. Go ahead. For the final sitting, can

01:32:03 --> 01:32:05

you just elaborate on that? Is that just

01:32:05 --> 01:32:07

like the final position of the Yeah. So

01:32:07 --> 01:32:09

you're gonna be in, like, the final sitting,

01:32:09 --> 01:32:12

like, the kneeling position. Okay. Yeah. And that's,

01:32:12 --> 01:32:14

like, what that is. Okay. Cool. Yeah.

01:32:15 --> 01:32:15

Great.

01:32:16 --> 01:32:17

Okay.

01:32:19 --> 01:32:21

A couple of things that people might be

01:32:21 --> 01:32:23

interested in just as we're wrapping up,

01:32:25 --> 01:32:26

on

01:32:26 --> 01:32:27

next Friday,

01:32:28 --> 01:32:28

which is

01:32:30 --> 01:32:30

12th,

01:32:32 --> 01:32:32

there's

01:32:32 --> 01:32:34

a Sheikh from Pennsylvania.

01:32:35 --> 01:32:37

His name is Yousef Welch. He's a convert.

01:32:38 --> 01:32:39

He studied

01:32:39 --> 01:32:40

at the Darulum

01:32:41 --> 01:32:43

here in New York. It's like a Islamic

01:32:43 --> 01:32:44

school in Madrasa.

01:32:44 --> 01:32:45

He went to Yemen for a few years.

01:32:45 --> 01:32:47

It's really great person.

01:32:49 --> 01:32:51

And he's gonna be giving

01:32:51 --> 01:32:54

a sermon, a Friday sermon of downtown

01:32:55 --> 01:32:57

on that Friday. So not this Friday, but

01:32:57 --> 01:33:00

next Friday. And afterwards, he'll stop by here,

01:33:01 --> 01:33:01

to just

01:33:02 --> 01:33:04

do, like, a open talk, a halukkah.

01:33:05 --> 01:33:07

I think the topic is, like, waking up

01:33:07 --> 01:33:08

the soul or something like that.

01:33:09 --> 01:33:10

He's a really nice guy.

01:33:11 --> 01:33:13

If you're free and you can be here,

01:33:13 --> 01:33:15

I think it'd also be kind of a

01:33:15 --> 01:33:17

great interaction point

01:33:18 --> 01:33:21

where you can meet someone who's also a

01:33:21 --> 01:33:23

convert to Islam, who's a religious scholar.

01:33:24 --> 01:33:26

He works with a couple of other people,

01:33:27 --> 01:33:29

including, Sheikh Yahia Rodis, who's also a con

01:33:30 --> 01:33:33

convert. They started an amazing institution in Pennsylvania,

01:33:33 --> 01:33:34

called Al Makassid,

01:33:35 --> 01:33:37

where they go through a lot of different,

01:33:38 --> 01:33:41

fundamental, foundational aspects of Islam as a religion,

01:33:41 --> 01:33:41

spirituality,

01:33:42 --> 01:33:44

more structured curriculum. It's just a really nice

01:33:44 --> 01:33:46

space to also visit.

01:33:47 --> 01:33:48

And,

01:33:48 --> 01:33:50

that's next Friday.

01:33:50 --> 01:33:51

So after Jummah,

01:33:52 --> 01:33:54

next Friday, we're gonna have

01:33:54 --> 01:33:57

our post Jumah lunch, fried chicken Friday. And

01:33:57 --> 01:33:59

then after fried chicken Friday,

01:33:59 --> 01:34:01

he's gonna start his program here in this

01:34:01 --> 01:34:03

room. So probably start around, like, 3:30 or

01:34:03 --> 01:34:05

so. I'm assuming he'll be here till probably,

01:34:05 --> 01:34:07

like, 4:30 or 5 o'clock, give or take.

01:34:08 --> 01:34:09

But if you're free at that time and

01:34:09 --> 01:34:11

you can come, it's great.

01:34:11 --> 01:34:12

On Sunday,

01:34:13 --> 01:34:15

we have another program,

01:34:16 --> 01:34:16

with

01:34:19 --> 01:34:20

a

01:34:20 --> 01:34:22

sister by the name of Yasmin.

01:34:23 --> 01:34:26

It's pretty well known, very, like, popular in

01:34:26 --> 01:34:28

terms of, like, speaking circuit. You guys can

01:34:28 --> 01:34:30

come and pray. Where's Rapna?

01:34:31 --> 01:34:32

And,

01:34:34 --> 01:34:35

it's written a lot of books. There's a

01:34:35 --> 01:34:37

lot around, like, kinda psycho spiritual models. If

01:34:37 --> 01:34:39

you guys wanna pray, can you just pray

01:34:39 --> 01:34:41

right here? Sure. Yeah. Sure? Yeah. Yeah. It's

01:34:41 --> 01:34:43

fine. That's what everybody does. So

01:34:44 --> 01:34:45

so she's gonna be talking

01:34:46 --> 01:34:46

about,

01:34:47 --> 01:34:49

a recent book she wrote,

01:34:50 --> 01:34:51

called Healing the Emptiness,

01:34:53 --> 01:34:56

and from 3 to 7 on Sunday 14th.

01:34:57 --> 01:34:58

She's gonna be speaking.

01:35:00 --> 01:35:02

There is a ticket to the event,

01:35:03 --> 01:35:05

because we're doing it in conjunction with another

01:35:05 --> 01:35:07

institution called the Almagrib Institute,

01:35:07 --> 01:35:08

and they have a charge.

01:35:09 --> 01:35:10

But if, you know, financial

01:35:11 --> 01:35:11

considerations

01:35:12 --> 01:35:13

make it difficult,

01:35:13 --> 01:35:15

just let us know. Right? We don't turn

01:35:15 --> 01:35:17

away anybody for financial reasons here, and so

01:35:17 --> 01:35:19

we'll figure that out. But you should come

01:35:19 --> 01:35:20

to it. It'd be a nice program.

01:35:21 --> 01:35:22

I think we've already

01:35:22 --> 01:35:24

gotten about 400 tickets sold.

01:35:25 --> 01:35:27

And so, you know, make sure you reserve

01:35:27 --> 01:35:29

yours and tell people to come. Which should

01:35:29 --> 01:35:30

be a nice event.

01:35:31 --> 01:35:33

And then after that week,

01:35:33 --> 01:35:36

we're gonna transition into summer hours of operation,

01:35:39 --> 01:35:39

which,

01:35:40 --> 01:35:42

as of now, will be Monday through Friday,

01:35:43 --> 01:35:45

till 8 PM. And on the weekends, the

01:35:45 --> 01:35:48

building is closed. So we typically start this

01:35:48 --> 01:35:49

at 7.

01:35:49 --> 01:35:51

I think what we might do is either,

01:35:52 --> 01:35:54

shift the time a little earlier

01:35:54 --> 01:35:56

and use one of the other classrooms so

01:35:56 --> 01:35:59

it's to not interfere with doctor Marwa's or,

01:36:01 --> 01:36:02

what we can do

01:36:02 --> 01:36:04

is potentially find,

01:36:05 --> 01:36:06

alternative location,

01:36:06 --> 01:36:08

or we just go from 7 till 8

01:36:08 --> 01:36:09

o'clock. And then we have to have a

01:36:09 --> 01:36:11

hard stop at 8.

01:36:11 --> 01:36:13

And as the day gets later,

01:36:15 --> 01:36:17

was just people have to find accommodations from

01:36:17 --> 01:36:17

elsewhere,

01:36:18 --> 01:36:21

because the building will close at 8.

01:36:22 --> 01:36:23

But I'll keep you all updated. People have

01:36:23 --> 01:36:24

preferences

01:36:24 --> 01:36:26

on what they'd like to do.

01:36:27 --> 01:36:29

You know, let us know. Another option is

01:36:29 --> 01:36:31

we might move it to my building, which

01:36:31 --> 01:36:33

is the NYU building where I live on

01:36:33 --> 01:36:35

23rd and 3rd. I think some of you

01:36:35 --> 01:36:37

have been to our home before.

01:36:37 --> 01:36:39

So there's a lounge on the second floor.

01:36:39 --> 01:36:41

We might do it there, but depending on

01:36:41 --> 01:36:43

how many people will come, you know, hosting

01:36:43 --> 01:36:45

it within the apartment itself,

01:36:45 --> 01:36:47

which I would love because I love having

01:36:47 --> 01:36:49

people come over. And also then after you

01:36:49 --> 01:36:50

leave, I can just go to my bed,

01:36:50 --> 01:36:50

mostly.

01:36:51 --> 01:36:51

But,

01:36:52 --> 01:36:55

I don't know because the building hours will

01:36:55 --> 01:36:56

change, and so we'll keep you all updated.

01:36:57 --> 01:36:58

And that's not gonna be next week,

01:36:59 --> 01:37:01

or the week after. It'll be 3 weeks

01:37:01 --> 01:37:04

from now. But, if people have any ideas

01:37:04 --> 01:37:06

or things that would, like, inhibit them in

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some capacity, just you can email me or

01:37:09 --> 01:37:10

let me know in person

01:37:11 --> 01:37:13

so that, you know, we're able to kinda

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take into consideration with everybody,

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would be helpful for everybody.

01:37:17 --> 01:37:18

Okay. Great.

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Thank you all so much. So we'll see

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everyone next Wednesday,

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and we'll

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continue with what are the necessary components,

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of the prayer.

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