Khalid Latif – First Steps Essentials of Islam #10

Khalid Latif
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The importance of reflection in learning about one's values and actions is emphasized, with a focus on the use of reflection as a fruitful exercise. The speakers emphasize the need for regular reflection in daily practices, including writing down prayers and taking breaks. It is emphasized that creating a habit of reflection is essential, and that finding ways to be comfortable with one's current practices is key to achieving comfort with one's values. A sister will also take her Shahada for a session.
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Okay. Should we get started?

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So I thought what might be nice as

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we've gone through now

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2 thirds of Ramadan,

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and I know for some of you, it's

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your first Ramadan. For some, it's your first

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Ramadan here.

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For some,

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you're still looking into

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Islam and

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trying to,

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you know, think

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out.

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Take a couple of minutes. I know people

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are gonna do each other. How's it been

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so far?

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What are some of the things

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that have been

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kinda

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easy kinda wrestling with. For those whose it's

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first time in the space,

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before Ramadan,

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we'd start with,

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Islam 101 class that was focused on people

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who were exploring Islam as a religion, new

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Muslims, as well as people who were born

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to Islam,

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to be able to just kinda reconnect with

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foundations

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of the religion.

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So we've been continuing it through the month

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on Wednesdays here.

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If you're looking for doctor Marwa's helika,

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she's out this week and next week. Upstairs

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where our main helicopter is, we're doing a

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presentation,

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with pillars of peace, which is a domestic

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violence agency

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that members of our community started a couple

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years ago.

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You're more than welcome, you know, if you

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thought that was this to

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go there, but you're also more than welcome

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to stay here. Is that what you thought?

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Yeah. Go ahead. Look at that. See? Yeah.

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But if you wanna take a quick minute

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and you wanna turn to the people

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around you, ideally in pairs. Right? I know,

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some of us know more than just a

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couple of us, but just so everybody gets

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a chance to talk. How's it been so

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far? Right? And not to compel yourself to

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say what you feel like you're supposed to

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be saying, but just with a air of

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vulnerability.

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There's people in the room who it's their

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first

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experience with the Ramadan

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ever.

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And for some of us, we've had many

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experiences with Ramadan. But to break

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sometimes the monotony of it or sometimes the

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intimidation, vulnerability is really important.

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We can talk about both what's been helpful

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as well as what's been a struggle.

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What are the things that, you know, you've

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taken away that have been a benefit?

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What are the things that you didn't think

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would have been so hard that might be

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hard or, you know, what you're expecting of

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the kind of rest of the month. We

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take a couple of minutes just to talk

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to each other about that, and then we'll

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come back and discuss. Yep. Go ahead.

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And Maya all take their shahada in the

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same day.

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And they're stuck

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with all these people who have been Muslim

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for longer than them. Even if they have

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only been Muslim for a month or a

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year, they've been Muslim for minutes.

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They're saying, what do we do in these

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last 10 nights?

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I don't know a lot of Quran.

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My family is not Muslim. I don't have

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anybody to pray with.

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I can't come in the middle of the

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night to places where people don't even speak

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the same language as I do.

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So part of which you can do in

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the midst of all of this

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is in these nights, you can do some

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reflection.

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You can sit and you can contemplate on

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things.

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You can take from the blessing

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of the gathering you experienced. Even if you're

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alone or you're surrounded by people,

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you can do something that most people don't

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do throughout the course of their day which

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is just take a pause and try to

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think about whatever it is that your heart

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is calling you to contemplate upon.

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What is important to me?

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Why?

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There's a guy that I met today who

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said he wants to take his Shahadah in

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the next week,

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and he's trying to figure out what certain

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theologies

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mean to him, and Islam resonates in certain

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ways. He's very scientifically minded.

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And I said empirical understandings

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of things are not necessarily the only way

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our religion makes sense

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Because science can give you a good opportunity

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of understanding

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the how and the what, but doesn't answer

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the question of why so much.

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So somebody can explain to you how your

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body works inwardly because explain like what is

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going on there, but why?

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Why are you made in the diversity that

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you were made?

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Why

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is nature exist in the way that it

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does?

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Why does this thing of fasting yield this

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thing of consciousness?

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Why do I get angry by the things

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I get angry by?

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Why do I get agitated by the things

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I get agitated by?

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A moment of rest and reflection

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is a big part of a spiritual tradition

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within Islam.

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And these mechanics, these rituals, these practices,

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they don't really go to the depth of

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what they could

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if you don't take time outside of them

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to be able to just engage

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in that moment

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of reflection. Does that make sense?

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What I'd like you to do is just

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take a few minutes now, turn to the

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person next to you. What are you taking

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away from this?

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What are some of the things that it's

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bringing up for you? How does it

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play out in your life,

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this concept of reflection, contemplation?

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And then we'll come back in this. Go

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ahead.

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This isn't recording for most of it.

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This wasn't recording for most of it. I

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had to, like, play something.

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Okay.

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So

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what are some of the things we're taking

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away

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from here? What are what are some of

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the things you're discussing?

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Yeah. Who wants to start?

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And, Boogie?

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Yeah. We kinda talked about how,

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we're all kind of reflecting on the last

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10 nights thinking about, like, Ramadan has been

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so beautiful for us in various ways, like,

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how to keep that energy going and incorporate

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Islam in our lives and not just go

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back to, like, the

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hustle and bustle of life before.

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Yeah. And next Wednesday when we meet, which

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will be

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on the last night of Ramadan,

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we'll talk about some of that in more

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detail. People

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can bring their ideas and stuff. Right? But

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it's not the idea isn't that Ramadan

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is meant to be like an escape,

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you know, but it's still just a part

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of a broader journey. You can take lessons

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from it. And this thing of deliberate reflection

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is gonna be an important way of doing

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that.

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What else?

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Yeah.

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So

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we were just talking about well, for me,

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it's like I reverted, I guess, like,

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22 to 2 Ramadan ago, and I feel

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like

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the past 3 years have been very heavy

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about, like, what you're talking about about, like,

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the practice, the mechanics,

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kinda trying to do things the right way.

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And I think that this Ramadan,

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I feel like I've been having to understand

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that my value system is actually changing. I

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think you called in question because of

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behaviors

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or mistakes or choices I've made that

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I feel like even something like 2 months

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before long ago, I would have been able

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to kind of just stuff away and really,

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like,

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not think about it, busy myself, lie to

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myself, lie to

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other people about it. And then, actually, during

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this month, I call it that I feel,

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like, open for me because of that reflection.

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I'm like, oh,

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it's not just about, you know,

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learning to pray or these things. It's like,

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what do you do with your, like, belief

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system

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And how does that feel for you as

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you came into that realization?

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Sorry.

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It's okay.

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Hard

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and,

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like, shameful.

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But, look, we're here for you. We're here

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with you. You're our sister, and anything you

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need, you let us know.

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And

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at any point in time, I can be

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helpful. You wanna talk about anything. Let me

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know. We can figure that out. Okay. Thank

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you.

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Sorry. Other thoughts?

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Yeah. Okay.

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Okay.

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Amazing.

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Anyone else?

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How do you reflect?

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How does one do that? If you had

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to give practical steps.

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Right? My 7 year old walked in a

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year old and they said, father, how does

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one reflect? What would we answer that? What

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would the answer be?

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Because reflection

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is not the same as rumination.

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Right? Reflection is also not self deprecation.

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Right? Those are tools of shaitan.

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Reflection is meant to be a spiritual exercise,

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so it brings you to a place of

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benefit. It's not meant to push you down.

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Right? So how do you do that?

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Yeah. I think in the most,

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ambiguous,

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terms, just asking yourself

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what's working,

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what's not working.

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If you get a test, it's a mechanical

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thing of, like, am I brained? Am I

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not brained? Or it's like, if you're not

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brained, it's like,

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why am I what, like, why am I

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unable to bring myself to do that? And,

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yeah, I think just ask myself those 2

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binary questions is where you can start. Okay.

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So principally, like, one mode of reflection is

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by asking questions, but then answering the questions.

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Right? And they can be on anything.

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You know?

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Right? Like, how is the sunrise so beautiful?

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Right?

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What kind of god must it be that

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can paint a sky in these colors?

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What must,

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tree in Jannah look like if a tree

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out here with these pink flowers is so

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exquisite?

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Do do you get what I'm saying?

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Right?

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It's not and you don't wanna have a

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negative cognitive bias that most people have

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that your reflection is then just self deprecation.

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It's not contemplation, it's rumination.

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Right?

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Rumination, like, if you were to look at

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it etymologically in English,

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it refers to kind of a process through

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which, like, cows chew cud. Right? They're just

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constantly if you ever seen a cow eat

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something, it's just like moving his jaw again

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and again and again and again. That's what

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rumination is. I'm just wrestling with a thought

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again and again and again. Right? We're talking

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about something that is uplifting, not something that's

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gonna break you down. Do you get what

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I mean?

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The how to's of that can be done

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in practical ways. 1,

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if you sit and I say, go be

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still,

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we did this with a class that I

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teach

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in

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our public policy school and leadership just like

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a few hours ago.

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They were engaged in a meditation in the

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class, it's a leadership class. And then after

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the fact, like they sat now for a

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longer period of time in just stillness.

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And then we said, how was it? And

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one of the kids said, it was so

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hard for me to not reach for my

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phone.

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Right? And they were just being honest. Like

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it was very difficult for me to not

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reach for like a piece of technology, to

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just be at peace with stillness. So what

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happens

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is that you don't reflect on a vacuum,

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you have to reflect upon something.

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Right? So what is the thing that you

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are reflecting

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on? And that could be like so many

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different things

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but those questions are a part of it.

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What are like other how to's that go

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into this?

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And if you don't do this yourself, that's

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fine, but you wanna just think within yourself,

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like, it's okay. How do I come to

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a place that it becomes a regular habit?

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Just as people trickle

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in,

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this is like a Islam 101 session, but

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you're more than welcome to stay, But people

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are looking for the pillars

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to

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peace,

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session that's upstairs on the 5th floor, and

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that's where we also do Iftar.

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So we're gonna move from here in, like,

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10 minutes to go up there. But

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no obligation to stay here if, you know,

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you're looking for the other things. But feel

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free to stay with us also. Right? So

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the how to's, right, not theoretically.

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Like if you do this as a regular

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price, great. If you don't, just conjecture. What

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would be necessary

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for me to be able to? The same

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way when we've talked about prayer at an

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intro level, we talked about wudu and how

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you do it. Right? Like, what do you

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need to be able to reflect

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peacefully?

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Not in like an agitated way. Even if

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the things that are coming up are agitating,

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like what do you need that will create

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that ambiance?

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The story of the companion that I told

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you, he goes home at the end of

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the day before he's gonna go to rest

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to go to sleep. And this is where

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he creates a moment of reflection.

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How do you create a moment of reflection

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in a city that's as

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kinda movement oriented as

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New York City?

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Yeah. Isolate oneself from all distractions?

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Yeah. Isolate oneself from distractions. This is what

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we talked about last week. We talked about

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the seclusion in the mosque that is in

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Ramadan, the et al gaf, the

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purposeful spiritual retreat the prophet Muhammad would do,

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peace and blessings be upon him. Right? It

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wasn't about being away from people, it was

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about being away from distractions.

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You know what I mean? So I'm, like,

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praying with friends of mine when I had

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roommates before I got

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married

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and we were watching the NBA finals and

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the time to pray came. And one of

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my friends was like really into the game

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and I was like, hey man we get

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to pray. And he said, yeah you know

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we do, you're right.

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And he just muted the TV.

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And the direction for prayer in my apartment

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like, faces the TV.

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And I was like, oh, like he's like

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he's like, no, it's fine. And I'm like,

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no, man. It's not it's definitely not fine.

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Right?

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But

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this is why we have narrations in our

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tradition that say, there's no prayer if a

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meal is served. Doesn't mean you don't pray

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in its time, but you're gonna be thinking

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about the food, right? When these guys, our

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volunteers are amazing here. You know, one of

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the nights we were doing a pre Iftar

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like discussion

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and 45 minutes before

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our fast was breaking, they gave people dates.

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I was like, man, you're like torturing people.

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You gave them a piece of food to

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stare right in their hands that they can't

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eat for another 45 minutes, and there's no

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place for them to put it. It's a

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date. What can you do with it? You

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can put it in your pocket. Right? You're

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not gonna put it on the ground. So,

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you know, the distraction

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is built in.

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Do you get what I mean?

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So how do you remove the distractions

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so that the exercise is actually something that

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can yield

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what it can when the distractions are away?

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Right?

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Other

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that I would recommend,

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sometimes find a buddy to reflect with.

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So I could sit down and we could

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talk to each other and we're engaged in

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an understanding.

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We have a prophetic tradition that says that

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you're mirrors to one another. Right? Your brothers

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and sisters, you're mirrors to each other. Do

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you know what I mean? That you can

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reflect back and forth in a meaningful way

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in that sense.

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Writing things down is really great because the

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state that we're in sometimes

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has us remember the past through the state

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that we're currently in.

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And if I wrote something down today,

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a month from now it creates for me

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something that I can have a more truer

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recognition of where I'm at. And if a

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month from now, God forbid, my father's really

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sick and I'm really disoriented,

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I'm not gonna remember a month ago

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the same way in that state as if

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I had something actually concrete in front of

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me that I could say, oh, this is

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where I was. I have to be true

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to it and honest to it and vulnerable

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with it. Do you get what I mean?

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This is why I also recommend writing down

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your prayers like your duas

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because you can also see it grow through

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your duas reflectively

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on both what you find valuable in your

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life, but who you think God is through

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the nature of what you're actually asking of

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him.

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Right?

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And what's the trajectory there in terms of,

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like, my starting points to later on in

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life? And how does, like, agitation come in?

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And when the world is heavy or people

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are unkind or I'm not so kind to

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myself? What am I making dua for in

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those days versus on maybe I'm not even

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making it because I feel like I'm not

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deserving to make it. Right? It's all problematic

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thoughts that jump in that reflection can be

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a very key mechanism

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of healing for it. Do you know what

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I mean? Does that make sense?

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Your overall wellness is gonna be really important

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too.

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And reflection can be a yield to be

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able to understand that I'm not taking care

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of myself. Right?

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Outside of moments of defined ritual, you still

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exist.

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But all of it is just as simple

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as

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5 minutes a day,

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maybe 10 minutes every week,

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a few times. And what Ramadan is bringing

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people towards

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is break out of the kinda chaotic movement

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and find some stillness.

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And you're gonna find

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like,

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not

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just millions. You're talking about

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100 of mills of adult Muslims

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in the next week

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are going to be perpetually

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drawn

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to moments of reflection.

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And if they just said this is what's

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happening

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then they wouldn't let go of that for

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anything as a regular practice.

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But the conscious awareness of it is what's

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really important. Do you get what I mean?

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Okay. I want us to take a pause

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here.

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People wanna head up

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to the room upstairs on the 5th floor.

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We're gonna be making Maghrib there. Our sunset

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prayer, we're gonna also break fast there.

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Some of the things you could do even

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embedded in, like, your daily prayers is at

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the end of it, you just sit. You

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find stillness

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and that's where you're reflecting. Right? We have

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what's remembrances, litanies that we engage in as

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Muslims.

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And people will tell you at the end

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of a prayer, for example, you're new to

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Islam, they're gonna say sit down and say,

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SubhanAllah,

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glory be to God.

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Praise God. Allahu Akbar. Proclaim God's greatness

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but not tell you why.

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Right? So it's not just you wrotely regurgitated

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on the digits of your finger. You sit

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down and you attach some meaning to it

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in your reflection. Why am I glorifying God

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today?

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Why am I praising god? What's the kind

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of reason for it?

00:28:06 --> 00:28:08

Right? What are the things that I can

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engage in just a few minutes built into

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this process of prayer that the prayer itself

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is not the moment to reflect? You can't

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be praying, right? Bilal's leading us in prayer,

00:28:18 --> 00:28:20

it's not the time to be like, hey.

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I really wonder, like, you know,

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why is this guy blue? Right?

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You know? Like, does God really like me?

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Do I really like God?

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That guy's socks are really strange looking. He's

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got a hole in his toe. Why is

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he tickling me with his pinky? Like, that's

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not the time to reflect.

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The prayer is the mechanism

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that helps resolve clutter inwardly

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that creates the moment for reflection. You're laughing

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really hard. Does that happen to you? Somebody

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tickles your toes while you pray?

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It's like all the time. Right? Like, man,

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stop stop playing footsie with me while I'm

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praying, bro. You know? But do you get

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what I'm saying?

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And creating paradigm shifts

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that the ritual is actually yielding what it's

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meant to, and then after the fact, you've

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now centered yourself through this. You don't wanna

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get up and run the food or get

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up and wanna talk to somebody else. Use

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that moment to talk to God. Use that

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moment to recognize what's going on inwardly.

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You you see what I mean?

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Does that make sense?

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Okay. So we're gonna pause here. People wanna

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head up. That'd be great.

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We will have this session at 6 next

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Wednesday also.

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And then I don't know if the week

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after we'll move back to 7 or not,

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but we'll announcement once Ramadan is done. But

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we'll continue after. And once Ramadan is done,

00:29:47 --> 00:29:49

we'll move into discussions on prayer. Right? Cause

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we've talked about wudu, like our ritual washing.

00:29:52 --> 00:29:55

Just still keep coming, you know, whether you're

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still exploring Islam,

00:29:56 --> 00:29:57

you've made

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the decision to mashaAllah, convert,

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you are still trying to figure out what

00:30:01 --> 00:30:03

it means, you're born into it, you can

00:30:03 --> 00:30:06

definitely come, but every Wednesday, we'll continue still

00:30:06 --> 00:30:08

with this and kinda explore it in the

00:30:08 --> 00:30:10

ways that we've been doing this rather than

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me just throwing at you. Here's a list

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of things to memorize for for us to

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build a relationship with these things conceptually. Right?

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These last 10 nights of Ramadan,

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as you engage in prayer and listening to

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the Quran and all of this, engage in

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some moments of reflection. Just find some places

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of stillness.

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Right? Be in a place where you take

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in the quiet food, you're comfortable with it,

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you allow for yourself to just contemplate on

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certain things. If things rise up that you

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don't know what to do with, you don't

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have to name them in that moment. You

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can get to a place where you're back

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at homeostasis

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and then think about what did those feelings

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mean to me. Right? You don't wanna be

00:30:48 --> 00:30:50

drowning and then try to name something while

00:30:50 --> 00:30:51

you're drowning.

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But once you get back to a place

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where you can breathe

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then you think about it in a more

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level state.

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If we can in any way, I'm happy

00:31:00 --> 00:31:01

to sit with you,

00:31:02 --> 00:31:02

talk,

00:31:03 --> 00:31:05

listen, whatever it is. Let me know.

00:31:05 --> 00:31:06

We

00:31:07 --> 00:31:09

give annuity to some of what we gained

00:31:09 --> 00:31:12

from Ramadan, especially, like, if you're a convert.

00:31:12 --> 00:31:15

You go from the space where it's Muslims

00:31:15 --> 00:31:17

on steroids for a month and everybody's hanging

00:31:17 --> 00:31:19

out together and then they all go back

00:31:19 --> 00:31:21

to places and it's like, well, what happens

00:31:21 --> 00:31:23

to me? I don't have Muslims in my

00:31:23 --> 00:31:24

family.

00:31:24 --> 00:31:26

Right? I don't have people that I can

00:31:26 --> 00:31:28

go back in my home and pray with.

00:31:28 --> 00:31:29

You know, it's not as easy as that.

00:31:29 --> 00:31:30

And it's a necessary

00:31:31 --> 00:31:33

conversation for all of us to understand as

00:31:33 --> 00:31:36

a community. So we don't leave people hanging

00:31:36 --> 00:31:38

after 30 minutes and then it's just kinda

00:31:38 --> 00:31:40

left behind. Do you see what I mean?

00:31:40 --> 00:31:42

Okay. So I'll do that.

00:31:42 --> 00:31:44

There's a sister who's gonna take her Shahada

00:31:45 --> 00:31:45

here.

00:31:45 --> 00:31:46

Right?

00:31:47 --> 00:31:48

Yeah. So if you wanna stick around for

00:31:48 --> 00:31:50

that, feel free. I'm just gonna turn off

00:31:50 --> 00:31:52

some of these things. You can also just

00:31:52 --> 00:31:53

start heading up,

00:31:53 --> 00:31:56

to get to the 5th floor for Maghrib

00:31:57 --> 00:31:59

and getting situated there. But, if you wanna

00:31:59 --> 00:32:01

stay, we'll do that, and I'll know we'll

00:32:01 --> 00:32:02

head up and show you. Okay.

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