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Ismail Kamdar – Q&A with Guests
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Manuel Rahim in Hindi levels so that was salam ala Rasulillah Salam Allah
Allah
eautiful this praise Allah in the stroke the fears
so when you go to the doctor and you say to the doctor I'm not feeling well then you get to the doctor your symptoms and then the doctor give you some medicine are you gonna take the medicine?
Why?
Why
you trust them? You believe the doctors have authority? Correct?
When you go to the madrasa when you go to share is smiling. And you learn something about fit. Oh, soon, or UCLA? And he gives you some believe a hadith? I asked. But you can't access that deal the evidence yourself? Are you going to believe believe Him yes or no?
Yes or no? Why?
Because you trust him. When you go on the plane, and the pilot says we're going to be suffering from some
severe turbulence ain't know nothing about the science of turbulence.
And then he says, sit down and buckle up. What are you gonna do? You're gonna moon walk down the aisle? Well, you're gonna sit down, buckle up and make God
you're gonna sit down with God, which one is it?
Why?
Because you believe he's an authority. Correct? Correct.
When you read a book, about earthquakes, geology, mountains, tectonic plates, how earthquakes happen.
And you read about the intricacies of how earthquakes manifest themselves in the world.
Do you believe the book yes or no?
Why?
Why? Because you trust them you believe their authority.
So when Allah tells you,
that you should follow your bliss when he desires when Allah tells you, you should obey the prophets of Allah who I am ascended. When Allah tells you that you shouldn't commit Zina, when Allah tells you that you should not fall for the LGBTQ plus ideology, when Allah tells you that men must have Allah and authority over the woman for to take care of them, to finance them, to honor them, and also to have strategic leadership. And when Allah tells the women they must be davanti obedient Are you going to listen to Allah? Yes or no?
Yes or no? Yes or no? Why?
Because Allah is ultimate authority. If you can follow some miski pilot probably probably vegan.
Kitchen
and he told me something about you sit down automatically.
Like little boy
sense cents.
When the doctor
looks at your symptom says take this medicine you don't even check what's in the medicine. You don't read the ingredients. Some of you don't even read.
So you just take it
when you read the science textbook, because it's got a white name, John Smith, David Murphy, or whatever.
You take him seriously because it's the religion of the white coats is the religion of the white man, the white coat the authority is the new fold because of the high priests today.
But many of us, Allah subhanaw taala created all of these things. Allah is I believe, is the knowing Allah is Allah Hakeem, he is the wise, Allah has the picture. We've just got the pixel. Allah has the totality of knowledge and wisdom. We have fragmentary pieces of the consequences, classical scholars anyone can view.
Therefore Allah says something you must obey.
Because Allah is the ultimate authority. Does this make sense?
So you should use Allah Revelation the Quran and the Sunnah as a film
To to understand what is right, and what is wrong with our own ideas. Because when Allah commands something, His commands are good for us. Or Allah's commands good for us, yes or no.
Even if you don't understand the command, is it good for us? Because you don't understand the medicine, you haven't read them and said, some of them read. Some of them even understand what the side effects of the medicine although we take care
and we solve it down.
But we still accept it because we believe in the authority of the doctors, wherever the authority of Allah subhanaw taala.
So we know Allah's commands are good for us, even if we don't understand them, but we should learn having an understanding the commands of Allah. Why are other commands of Allah good for us? Because who does Allah always focus on not the command, but the one who produced the command?
Don't look at the command of Allah. Look at who Allah is.
Because Allah subhana wa Tada is an ally in the knowing Allah is an Hakeem the wise, Allah has arrived man, the intensity Merciful of man and mercy is so immediate, nothing can stop a mercenary so powerful that nothing can stop is a boiling over type of mercy. Allah is and will do the most loving Allah above the source of goodness. And He commands us to do things. And these commands are in line with his nature. So his commands are good, our merciful are wise. And he's the best thing for us.
Is this clear?
Is this cave others assistance. And really, if you believe this, then anything that comes in your heart that is against this, just be honest with yourself to say it's a test.
I need to improve. I'm the problem. Allah isn't the problem. I'm the problem. And be authentic with yourself and acknowledge that you live in an environment that has all of these isms and schisms, these manmade ideologies, atheism, liberalism, post modernism, nihilism, hedonism.
And these things come from the limited human mind.
And they can even prove their own foundation we can prove the foundations of Islam.
And therefore these are the result my true Allah exists is one is worthy of worship. The Quran is from Allah, the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam is the final profit. And this is true. And what comes from truth is
whether comes from truth is when the cuffs on heart is.
So if you have
a kind of Shaohua, to your knowledge is against this, then be mature, jump back and say, Okay, I'm growing. I'm learning, I'm on a journey, I need to come closer to having more time, I need to focus on him. Focus on his names and attributes. Understand others tell he understand why I was connected along with us and love Allah subhana, WA, tada, I must gain more in and it's a good a good environment, to face friends around me. And that would shake my disposition and my nuts. Never allow your desires to form your identity. This is one of the biggest problems that we face in a liberal modern world. We believe that just because you have a desire to do something, I want to do Zina, I
want to do this, I want to do that. I want to disobey Allah. I want to drink alcohol. I want I want to look at haram things. These are desires, be mature and understand, okay, we're human beings, we're always going to have desires, but the real human being the one who is a master of himself controls those desires. Desires are like a wild horse that you have to attain.
And a good
a good rider on the horse
knows how to tame the horse don't let the animal tame you. You must tell him the animal and our desires and our Shaohua like that.
So understand when you have these desires, don't identify the desires as if they are you to stand back and see okay, this is not aligned with Islam is not aligned with the truth is not aligned with the ultimate authority is not aligned with the commands of Allah.
I not going to identify with those desires as if they are me. I'm going to make that distinction, make that distance and say okay, I'm going to work on myself.
Because the ultimate human being is the one whose desires are in line with the commands of Allah subhanaw taala. That's the optimal human being
And that is manifested in the Sunnah of the Prophet saw a lot more it you will send him because he was the best of creation.
So this is what I wanted to say just to give you the framework of obedience. Because I think we really want an interaction the job is going to speak. But when interaction to capture your questions was, I think in that dynamic, functional, tactical exercise, more can be delivered, and more can be internalized. So in a nutshell, remember, obeying Allah is the most wise thing to do, obeying the ultimate authority, who created all these other little authorities that we obey, from medicine, to science, to teaching to all of these other settings.
Allah is the ultimate authority who created all of these minor authorities is the one who should be obeyed. Because if you can obey those lessons, authorities, then is the wisest thing to do to obey the one who knows everything and you who's wise and use the source of all love and he's the most merciful. All your food will reject the wave Abraham, as Allah says in the Quran. Don't be a fool. Be a wise man, a wise woman, be smart. obeying Allah is the smartest thing to do. Don't let these ideologues these LGBTQ plus people, these liberals, these hedonistic nihilistic
fools, make you think that your backward because you're obeying Allah, no your backward if you obey your desires, your backward you have a man made limited philosophies, you are backward when you obey these lesser authorities.
But you are the most civilized person if you obey Allah
because Allah has full knowledge or wisdom, He is the source of mercy. And he is the source of all love. These commands are loving, merciful, and they're totally good for us because Allah is the Greatest benefactor he's been. So make a decision. You're going to be a wise man or wise woman, or you're going to be a fool.
Do you want to be a food?
You want to be wise? Yes. Oh Bayless apparently wants to be that be that be?
Salam Alaikum wa Rahmatullah here when I cancel.
You see many of the questions that people ask about Islam, they ask questions, they say, why is it that inheritance? Brothers get double? What sisters get? For example, they ask, why is it that the Prophet Muhammad SAW Allah on some level married Aisha at such a young age? They ask, why is it that the man can marry four wives up to four wives? They ask, why is it that the professor Salam, he engaged in war?
He engaged in war? Why is it that Islam was spread in a certain manner? And so on, and so forth?
Why is it that Islam prohibits homosexual practices? Why is it that Islam states that there'll be a heaven and a * and the Hellfire will have people that don't wish this believed in Islam? Why is it fair?
That people
who disbelieved in Islam after hearing the message will go to a fire and burn during isn't this barbaric and backwards? These are the kinds of questions that are asked.
There is one answer for all of these questions.
And the answer is, Because Allah said so.
I mean, this is not a philosophical answer,
or justification. But the point is this If Allah is the author of the Quran, and Allah is all knowing, and all powerful and all wise, then whatever Allah says, is true. And in all of those examples, there is no logical contradiction.
There is no contradiction.
The reason why we are asking these questions is not because these questions are good questions, because these questions were not asked 250 years ago
or three
200 years ago, or 500 years ago, or 650 years ago, or 1000 years ago.
The reason why we are asking these questions is because in the West, and by that I mean, England, France, Germany, and this extensions, United States, Canada, and so on. This is the West is what we mean by list in the last 200 years, have had moralities and what it means what is right and what is wrong,
which have contradicted those ideas, or at least some interpretations of those moralities contributed ideas. And so, the issue has been one where they assume they are right, and they assume we are wrong.
If those ideas if feminism had been confined to an African village, it would be seen as a laughingstock in the world.
For example, if the ideas that Simone de Beauvoir and Betty Friedan, and all of these feminist thinkers, as well as liberalism itself, if a Nigerian made them up
in the EBO tribe, in Nigeria, and he wrote a book about it,
and then he explained it in a Nigerian accent, him and a woman, Nigerian woman on YouTube, and this and that and university conference,
then it would have been laughed at,
no one would take it seriously.
They will say these are just some African ideas. They have no stock, they have no weight.
This is the truth. But it is because
the white man, the liberal white man.
And I'm not talking about necessarily the color of the skin, I am talking about the fact that the majority of these people have been white, and have thought because of the color of their skin that they are better than the rest of the people sometimes. And in South Africa, there's no better example to show this.
Liberalism and feminism both were white supremacist movements at some times, they justified colonialism through racism, undoubtedly, and we can show this in other places. But they decided these are the right things in the wrong things. And they have the biggest guns, they have the most money to make movies, therefore, their ideas will be the most listened to ideas.
If these have been calm, gone ideas, or these ideas have sprouted out in Indonesia. If feminism had started in Indonesia, it would have stayed in Indonesia.
If liberalism has started
in Latin America, it may have stayed in Latin America, we wouldn't be asking you these questions.
In fact, even if Hitler had won the war,
we would meet maybe asking these questions as much.
Hitler, if you had won the war, and he actually took over the Western Hemisphere, we wouldn't be asking these questions. So it seems to me that these questions have come from a particular knowledge productions
of the Western Hemisphere.
And they have constituted
the new colonial regime, the new apartheid regime, and it is not an economic or political apartheid. But it is an intellectual and ideological apartheid, which is worse, more pervasive, and more corrosive than the political and economic power. Because for me, I would rather be like locked up in shackles and chains. But no one affects my ideas and my heart and my beliefs than to be a free man in body was laid in mind.
I would rather be locked up in a dungeon in a prison.
But my freedom of thoughts and beliefs is not affected. They have penetrated our minds. It's no longer empires of military. Tis as Winston Churchill mentioned, empires of the mind.
He predicted this, and he was right about this.
The questions that we have about Islam are not logical or rational or scientific questions.
If they were addressed, we will deal with them because there is some level of truth
proving, falsifying, verifying, the majority of the reason why people have the issue of Islam is because it contradicts the liberal religion. And it contradicts the Western ideologies.
And we are now under the foot
under the shoe, I'll show you.
Were under the shoe
have the colonial liberal regime.
But the worst thing about it is that we are putting the shoe over our own heads.
And doing this well humiliating ourselves
to choose important Should I leave it here in South Africa to put in a museum somewhere
a new anti apartheid, intellectual anti apartheid Museum.
Because the truth of the matter is that this is where the struggle is now.
The first order of business is to recognize what's going on.
If you don't recognize what's going on, and you pretend that actually these ideologies have a truth and they must be right, because the mind was the lab coat Senate
because the man with the lights considered because the man was a big guns at it.
Then you are still doing this, then you are voluntarily putting the show of your hands
familiarizing yourself ideologically and molesting yourself
philosophically
This is the truth.
So once you realize that this is what's happening, the second order of business is to reconstruct your identity based on color level colors.
And if you find yourself finding this difficult, it is because of the following, you may find the proposition that there is only one God worthy of worship and Mohamed Salah Salem is the messenger, you might actually find this to be a non convincing, unsatisfactory proposition. Because the truth of the matter is, if you found this satisfactory fully, you would never have any of these questions.
That's why Allah He mentioned that Kenny McLean never gets shut down, like EBA us who have a habit, what are over the Senate
that the law is like is a deep rooted tree, a good tree. Its roots are deep rooted as branch of AI in the sky.
If you have deep rooted Eman and you truly believe in Allah, Allah and Allah and you truly believe in Allah, so Allah, all of these other things that it will be like nothing. So you have to really convince yourself of that, or revisit those arguments. Look at the Quran, the Sunnah, the creation of Allah. And look at the sin of the Prophet Muhammad Rasul Allah, this is the best way of increasing your Eman and solidifying your email. That is why Allah says a weekend at Nafion FFP with the emphasis em hub database,
that we will surely show them Our signs in themselves and the horizons until they know is the truth.
Meaning when you look into the creation,
and you start seeing the stars and the sun and the moon, and all of this, it should make you realize much about pillar as the process.
You haven't created this from falsehood. This has been created in truth. What is the best explanation for this creation? You will find 100% and we have tested this with the atheist. You see the debate on my channel where he related that
you can see that the first explanation is 100%
that there is a God one God with the will that put everything into motion. You can refer to the video for more information. And then you realize the promise of Isola once again,
he had a
particular claim that he was the prophets if you look at his life, and you look at his evidences. And once again if you look at our material for that information
there is a
So this
so once you're solidified and anchored, and sure, Allah on the fly
let me tell this story
until the public feeling and
I feel that this gives my family my
family
there was a time I had like a disease. Okay, I was
very sorry.
I won't say the whole thing because it's actually maybe you can get legally in trouble in England. But there was a time I had like, a something called pulmonary embolism, which is like, it's a life threatening disease. And it helped with this. You can't breathe properly and all of these things, yes. And
they gave me so it was very painful. They gave me like drugs, pain, killing drugs. You know, morphine. Morphine
is a very, it's an opioid, it's like heroin. I said, you don't have to take a slug for the whole I can't breathe
anymore anyway.
I took it and I kept taking my threshold went higher and higher and I was taking like 300 milligrams a day. Like that was the prescribed dose I don't know what to do. I took it and I want to it's and I'm in the fool of myself a few times.
Maybe this is public knowledge
on WhatsApp, and maybe even bigger for
some people. And I told them the truth about some things
to my detriment. Anyway, one day I took too much
Yes, I did.
And then I started hallucinating
and I'll tell you what happened this is the first time that you don't have to say led experiences and
I had this but with opioid
so I was
one of the sudden things started to slow down
do you notice on YouTube when you have like speed 0.5
Everything was 0.5
I was like what's going on it's like a slow my work was that
honestly, and then
will lie this is a true story. I'm not making this up yet. The next thing will happen is it's as if I came in and out of existence like things went dark and those things would light into a dark light dark light dark light
and all of a sudden I start going everywhere
which I'm sure many of you guys hear you have the same experience and look in the mirror
had the same I had the same job for handling
training in the gym and the guy said you did the vomit bucket system it's only when he looks into
it so I started going all over the place and then somebody who didn't know what to do she could ambulance
but before she could handle this this is what's going on my wife sure I was my mom the way
she's interrogating me about saving lives
I said while I can remember saying what Allah He
said Well Allah is this
opportunity to jump the sea see the truth that was going
on we will over the place
well, this is a result she's recording and I was I was talking like a gangster in London.
I don't know why I kept some something deep in my personality that like a gangster
you will know who I am
because in the area that we live in, there are some gangsters and stuff
all of a sudden
what why?
There's a corridor and this elevator. I didn't remember that there was a corridor I stopped memory like in this is my hallucination experience. I want to thanks.
I said to myself, who am I?
And this is on camera and I'm gonna show it because it was just me exist if someone got ahold of that footage, and I genuinely
I had this experience where I was out of body experience. While I was in and out of my body, I didn't know who that was. The billions of people they don't really want, but he didn't know he was himself. This is crazy things. So what happened after that? I started talking, and this was on camera. And I said, I don't know who I am. But I know that there's a necessary existence. Also, when I set this, and I said that they cannot be speaking like in the philosophical manner. I'm a gangster at the same time.
By no, that doesn't necessarily
mean I said to myself,
there's a necessary existence, meaning there's something foundations all existence, it came naturally to me.
It came naturally to align. And it was a deep feeling. And this is the thing Islam is a natural thing. Many of the people that think these drugs,
they come to the same conclusion as I'm not sure if you've come to this, and you've seen this
before you guys
how are we feeling?
Very bad. This is our man. It took me like six months to get to wean off in medical things.
Just Just Just to clarify
the story that the ambulance came,
and I remember that was and then I woke up, and I woke up in the hospital bed. And that's not the least man that.
So you're doing some doing here because of what you've done.
He said,
I don't know if I should
say this. Maybe we should cut off the camera. I thought photography is what
I said.
I suppose going on? He said, Yes. You You're assaulting somebody.
So he said, I said yes. You know, so you heard somebody. I said Who was it? He goes you? You've had the paramedic
about barley when they were trying to take me down in the ambulance. I was jostling and this and that. And I got something to someone I don't want to mention. Well, I don't apparently. I said You're kidding me. I have a friend of mine. His name is Ali Tao.
Works on this. It's a good practice. That was absolutely serious.
Then as soon as I woke up and I regained consciousness, they took me to the police station.
And then only police station
waiting hours, honestly. And they didn't give me the drugs.
Which shows us that there is a thing that we said it was called Tramadol, and move morphine to Tramadol.
And I'll start going crazy. Like a junkie
Paola, this was a painkiller. I mean, this drug this addiction, this horrible addiction, it can make someone go crazy, you know,
songs coming off the back of that stuff.
So it's very easy to get off it.
Then I left Campbell now we've got to regain consciousness. That was kind of
the point. The lesson from all of this is don't take any drugs.
Don't no more drugs, because you'll be addicted to it. And if you went to prison or someone where you cannot get access, you can go crazy.
Another lesson is that even in the deepest most who's elucidating experience cannot lie just I didn't when I was hallucinating. I didn't say I'm feminism is true.
When people is born as babies
they actually had an innate predispositions believe in God. This is now a document. They don't have children, not one thing. Jesus is God.
Or feminism is true or these things these propositions they're not natural anywhere.
Islam is a natural religion. It really requires someone to have sincerity to approach it if someone is sincere, they will realize that I was about the truth.
Because I want to open up to questions and answers. Because it's nice to have a good amount of people and I think we can interact in that manner. And we have Hamza will be answering questions, while each inshallah if you handle the start and then I will follow up and so on and so forth. So I don't know how the systems are gonna answer these questions. You can that you can do it in a way that you know, you know, is the way
Does that
happen a lot better inshallah we're gonna we're gonna do some q&a sisters this pen and paper in the back. So, if you just write down your questions give it to any one of the sisters who would bring it through to the front. Inshallah brothers this is a, this is an open discussion mainly just by raise of hands quickly just so that we know university students hand up
great trials
no matriculants they studying so high grade 1110 98765 Mashallah Alhamdulillah Okay, any one out of university?
out of university? One, okay. That's your
high school, university. Right? Good. Go for it. We still have questions, brothers, we'll open it up sisters as well. If you want to speak, stand up and ask you raise your hand you can ask it, we're gonna write it down. Okay, but inshallah we want this to be as interactive as possible we want them to address some of your concerns and questions inshallah. So, this mela
and that's
just what this one is
so
difficult. Okay, but there's a question. Before we go to the question, I'd like to thank Seamus Swain, the center the school. Also the moolah family. Personally, I remember them years ago, when I was here, they did great service to Me great demand. And they also wrote, I believe
it was an armed robbery. It wasn't me, by the way, I was giving a lecture.
Bless them and preserve them, I still remember them closes my heart. You know, sometimes when you're flying around the world doing things people think you forget people that haven't forgotten, or LeBron, you and your family have invested in this slide from the vessel.
Okay, because the rest of us can how you retain a lot of knowledge and how you retain all of these facts. The first thing you need to do in my view, is you'd have a vision for yourself. Because this is a small action. So where do you see yourself in the future? If you see yourself in the future, gaining Islamic and secular knowledge for his sake, to promote his Deen to defend his Deen academically, intellectually. And in the next 10 years, you want to be in a certain position or in a certain state or in a certain level? Then you need to work backwards and say like, what do I need to do? And then you could categorize things in your life on an academic AMI spiritual, physical family
perspective, and have di, weekly, monthly and yearly and lifetime targets to achieve or goals to achieve or actual to do that linked to that vision. For instance, where are you going? Allah says, so find out where are you going first.
And then when you work backwards, you realize, okay, I need to do all of these things to achieve that. And then in the category of your life, wandering, or secular knowledge, or just useful knowledge is going to be purposeful and meaningful. And you're not going to be relying on emotion and motivation. emotions and motivations are overrated. Duty drives the unmotivated that's one thing I said to my wife, I think when I left to come here, I was like, I was thinking I was traveling, I was in England and I can't wait to take your money for 24 hours. Then I went to UAE that I went to came here, and you just you just driven by duty.
And then when you're traversing that path, you get that energy, because your vision should be linked to Allah, where you want to be so legacy building for the sake of ego is legacy building for the sake of Allah's pleasure, that you have an Allah centric aka centric mindset. The Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said, if you ask for genuine so for those who have high goals,
have him have a high objective, you will have less pleasure you want to turn the paradise in you want the good life. And the way to achieve that is by following the principles in the Quran and the Sunnah. And so your video should be linked to that she believed to Allah's pleasure and where you want to be in the haka. So for example, you could be in 10 years. I want to be someone who has memorized the entire Quran has studied Aqeedah can apply Aqeedah and I have read essays and articles in a book for high school students.
So how to show Islam is true. And I have
become an international day calling to Allah subhanaw taala. And engaging with that demographic, that's a division. Now you need to work towards that. What do you need to do spiritually to work on your classes? Do you feel right, you need to follow the seminar, you need to do the of course, in the morning in the evening, you need to do so many things that connect to that.
And when it comes to learning, then you know, we need to learn, right, we need to study I think that what what are the basic books to study, and you study the ideological trends because I need to apply our aqidah, to those ideological trends through who do I go to?
Who am I learning from. And then once you follow that process, you're going to be doing something everyday, there'll be no excuse. And that is so important, because you remove Tiktok away from your life, social media, television, all of these things, because they're a waste. Because since you have a big lofty vision, you're focused, you know what you need to do every day. And you're not just gonna rely on motivation, you're gonna rely on duty, because it's connected to your failure. Does that make sense?
And from my experience, the way you learn and memorize these things, is do something every day, read a book, write notes, study with a scholar,
and do it in different categories of learning that is important to fulfill your vision. So they choose Quran to save either Islamic thought, modern trends, and then everyday do something every drop raises the ocean, we're an accumulation of habits. That's what we are, we're just creatures of habit, start developing those habits now. But those habits have to be linked, linked to a bola centric, aka centric vision. And once you do that, things are going to fall into place. So that's my advice. And once you put that in place, you see your life would totally change. Like many jobs, we just went to the gym,
when I went to the gym was because we were on a big or there may be that aspect as well. But generally speaking, we have we fit that into our vision. Because in different categories of life you have and you have learning you have secular knowledge, you have professional knowledge, your spirituality, regarding a family, because your family has to be aligned with your vision, you have to make sure your vision your your family are
emotionally fulfills, you know, they have everything in place, and so on and so forth. Because it was all connected to achieving a vision, the physical aspect is important during a South African tour, let's fight really, really busy, you have to be relatively fit. Like, you know, if we're like all over the place, we're probably sick by Camilla and having that energy and that drive need to be fit. Also present yourself to the disbelievers. And imagine you have optimal intellectual complete capabilities and they also see physical capabilities. It's like a double barrel shotgun.
It's true. Like why should this guy
ticular big strong dude like a tank and his mind second time
and we want to show that it doesn't
strike fear, the enemy. Intellectual fear, psychological fear, the kuffaar
So you see my weight is linked to that vision. Because if my vision is a sailboat convinced of Islam, that means that that means I have to be someone I need to be convinced of Islam and be able to train others to convince others about Islam.
And if you do certain things is one of the do's is the fit because conviction is not only intellectual exercise is the way you come across. It's your PR it's your input to the essay your role.
Your presence, because that's the art of public speaking. You know, you have a script that's exactly the same imagine you watch the job to be okay, write down what he says
and say in two ways. First way you're going to say like this, yes, the world is dependent contingent it must have a necessary being and therefore the company an infinite regress so you need the necessary being and therefore God exists
it's true by my job
Imagine there is no God.
You
actually molested boys.
And in his book in that manner, people didn't remember how you made them feel and the girl with the words and you can even get a sense of confidence to see so hopefully I've made some allowances but hopefully this makes sense.
To take one
should say one thing I'm gonna sit down and say this one just so I can read it from the paper.
It says combating feminism is
important, but how do we deal with men who do not embody the role of being power? We have sisters who are breadwinners, despite males, being self supporting men, she removed the masculine in the morning
despite males being present in the household,
how are we dealing with this issue? Men are inheriting as Allah or things, but they don't support their women. I don't know if this is the solution, a solution in South Africa really? I mean, obviously, look, there's a difference between a man who has no money definitely can't give it and allow you to address these issues as well you that you will fit who sat in uncertainty, and we'll put it out there is this panel for new tabula, that the one who has a lot of money he should give what money he has, but the one who is restricted, then he can give us was as asked about how much Allah has given. So for example, if you have 100 grand in the bank, and you give 50. And then you
have a rich man who's got a million rounds, and he gives 100. For an extreme example, what is the guidance given? 50 is actually way more generous, obviously, right? Because he's got less money, but he's giving more of a percentage. So first, we have to understand how much what is the like net worth of this person? What is the cash flow of this man? If he's if his cash flow is x, then and he's spending on himself, for example, when he's not looking for a job? Well, he's deliberately staying at home on the dole, or whatever they call him. And then this is a bonus. And in fact, this is such a big problem that it illustrates the man from an Islamic perspective, like if a man is
capable of doing this, and he doesn't do it, then he is deprecating and basically, what it means to be a man in the first place.
He said Chavo methodologic, had
to shuffle my fortune, book loan Halla module,
that the worst things on the man is that he stingy,
like humiliating stinginess and desperate cowardice, the worst things, the promises, or the worst things that can be a man is if you are
stingy. And if you are a coward, because you are a protector, you are meant to be the financial protector, you are meant to be the physical protector. So if you are meant to be the financial protects, and you are the physical protector, and you're telling your wife to go and work, this is a volume and oppression. So much so that she shouldn't even listen to what you have to say. And there is no obedience in this, in fact that you can't say, Well, you have to obey me Go and work. No, actually, I don't have to obey you this, because this is a right that the woman has been given what we might have come home, and I'm wondering,
if she cannot obey his laptop, he
cannot obey the creation, the disobedience, the creator, this is not obedience has its limitations in Islam from him, but he's not a god, and the house is not alone.
So at the end of the day, this is something that men have been conditioned to do protect your wife, and physically or financially, I'm sorry to say, a little jewelry. But you know, intimate is cool, let's say intimately protective, which means that if you're not satisfying those three spheres in particular, then your masculinity as your you as a man from the Islamic perspective is in question.
If even to be honest, it could be set. And this is not as much What if you're not affectionate to Your wife, if you don't show that affection and romantic behavior, because what you're doing is you're pushing her to get that attention from somewhere else.
As as a true a true man is an affectionate man.
Sometimes we have in our culture that we shouldn't show affection to our wives to our children, then the dinner table and as long as I live in the bedroom
nobody so to say I do not like it. So the point is, how long is how to do that to your, you know, to your wife, it is hard, it is a boom, it is boom. And you will be punished for that. And in fact, this is such a bone that there shouldn't be intervention by other people. Like for example, if this was my daughter and the manual for outdoor sensor, sorry to say, I'm giving you a warning. I'd say to him, this is not it.
Because the truth is, this is something which you know, it could lead to a divorce. I mean, the woman will resent the man she will result in she's doing a double row. What do you mean? You want me to be like this inside and outside the house. Of course, this is only in the situation, because this is South African context. Where capabilities like for example, maybe a household
needs two incomes. And there's no way it will survive except for two incomes. I'm not talking about this, I'm talking about a man who is is within his capability to do something. And he is not he doesn't even have these. I mean, I don't want to be controversial. But there's a happy thought as a hobby female companion, he went to the Bahamas, US alone, and asked him,
she said, My husband does not give me he said, Take from him what you can.
This is the depth of how you can take, if you can get access to the money you can take from him.
It's not seen as theft. Because if he's not protecting her, then she has to protect herself.
This is imagine your what you're going to stop your children I'm going to stop your wife is that the level where you're going to put her in a situation.
So next, sorry to say that when the burglar comes in the armed robber with a gun to hit
that horse your mind was is gone, you might as well go and join them.
The next day, just a surgery though.
And this is something which may need to be a massacre. We've always talked about a brilliant solution a second one. Imagine this man here.
Imagine like a situation of managing homelessness in Taiwan. And then he starts opening conversation with his wife. I think I'm looking for something in life. Do it. The second thing is this is entitlement culture. Like let me take let me not give
before you take your rights you have to give the rights are owed upon you. That's the way of the companions and the prophets.
Even with employees and employers, the model, the one who is someone who does not give their employee money on time, he is cursed in the Hadith
that he says that you should give your employee money before the sweat price on his forehead. Why? Because the Islamic principle is which it is that you give what is owed to others before you demand what is owed to yourself. rights and responsibilities are two sides of the same coin.
And then this this kind of behavior is what pushes the woman to feminism.
And of course, it's not an excuse if she becomes a feminist and she loses her team effectively. Then sorry to say this is not an excuse. It's not an excuse. I found out she had his wife Asya and she said into the clock at the end of the surah. Yes, Robinette genuine fear alna Yeah. So may Allah
Yanni absolve me because I seek refuge in Allah from from wobbling when a journeyman or homeless on him and his works and met Jimmy. She was making Allah to
rescue her if you like from the coma Valley mean? And he was imagining the kind of punishment and he was inflicting upon that she didn't lose her faith. That's why we have two stories actually, two kinds of forms that I mentioned.
So So, yeah. So which is
to whites? The Murata no one
can attend that either they live in a Gardena for HANA Templeman
is that the wife of Lot? And the wife of Noah, they were under two slaves from our slaves, which is now unlocked and they receive them
from bulimia and mammal Allah Hashem lucky that the whole anonymise definitely they went to hellfire. I said they were they were bad women.
What are Allah amendment? Little Endian and around and on the other hand, you have the wife of Pharaoh, is pilot Rob Peabody Liang, Deccan, Beighton, Phil Jana, when that gene even phenomenal harmony with engineering, Muhammad Ali. She, on the other hand, she had a bad husband,
which is Pharaoh. The Quran is trying to create a balance, you sometimes have
not trying to it does create a balance. Sometimes you have bad husbands, which are built with bad ones, which is the situation of Pharaoh and ASEAN.
And then sometimes you have bad wives with bad husbands and Allah has given them both hope.
You say look, sometimes you can and I would say a man doesn't do these things is a bad husband.
He's a bad husband and a 4012. to tolerate this, this is solid. This is actually patients that
are lower
can usually be very glad to take left on the menu one day
All right. Okay, what do you want to just give evidence
of feminism, feminism, feminism, but I wasn't even talking about feminism.
masculinity, we come into that question
the guys first, this is what comes up
can no just do
this is basically related to the fact that you guys have
said that you didn't tell.
So, in in the debates, something came up where they have this argument, if Allah is all merciful
or good, what does evil exist? So with a Muslim argument we can say that he will is basically a test box. How do you respond to that? But what would be the proper way to articulate that?
Jonah? Just start with that. Yeah, I mean, the cycle.
Yeah, so that wasn't the argument, because that's the kind of classical way of articulating the problem of evil, which basically says,
God is good, and he's merciful and loving.
But evil exists. So he's laughing, he doesn't even exist. So Oh, God is powerful, and his most prolific book good, like sevens in like theology, especially in the Western tradition, in some form. So if he's all powerful, then he should have the ability to stop the evil. And if he's good or bad for loving, he should want to stop the evil. But since evil exists, he's either not powerful, right? Or is not loving. That's the fight isn't ridiculous argument doesn't logically follow. It's actually not even valid. It doesn't necessarily follow because God is also the wise. Mo, is actually going to give up. That's basically the abstract goes into your attributes,
away from all these other names and attributes and say God is good, isn't that assumption is only good and only powerful. For a second, this is a different god, sorry, we're going to respect we also believe in Allah is also food wise. But that wasn't his argument. His argument was a formulation for grabs 70 pregnancies, which basically argues that before creation, God is good, he has these goods. Yeah, God is all good. It's perfectly good. But yet evil exists, because he will exist, therefore, God can be good. It was a nonsense argument, because he was assuming that evil has some kind of what you could have ontological status. Yeah. But what we say is that evil existing in the world is, if
you like a manifestation of God's goodness, and wisdom,
that's the point. And so they assume is that there's only goods with God without before creation? Yeah. If that's the case, then this should be good in the world only, which is both respect. I think it's the most ridiculous argument I've heard. Yeah. And it's quite telling, because I haven't heard from anyone else before. It's actually quite desperate. I mean, if you have to spill up 17 premises in a debate, you're already desperate, it was a logical strategy, then I'm going to remember this and up and articulate this. But after that, we're quite trained to restrict to that assumption, what's evil,
evil don't have an ontological status with all due respect, in the kind of Islamic tradition. We believe evil is not absolutely in that sense. It's actually a manifestation of God's goodness and wisdom. So therefore, his logic breaks you footed. Does that make sense?
Take one of the sisters.
Sisters questions today.
Okay, so if a woman wants to work while her husband doesn't want her to, and he is financially providing, is it definitely Jesus obeyed Him and not work? Yes.
Is it
not the thing is, I think that these are conversations people should have before a marriage begins. Well, the thing is, to be honest, like the only situation where I can see this being acceptable is where he's not providing for her and not working will cause her to be harmed, or her children's behind that's the only situation where I can see this being the case, but if this is not allowed for the man, the question is, what is it because then what will reducing this calamity because consider the following like what is however, however, is a man's ability. Okay? Yes to provide
I'd be responsible and protect, they seem to maintain there's some most of the translations on the general Almanac and the SEC is translated as men and maintainers and protectionism. So, there is I believe, that is not bad, because how many homework comes from that where to stand? Allah is a Colwell for example, with me is Allah is a human. Yeah, sorry. Which comes from a very similar
root words, which is so when we say Allah is Hey, what are you
this means that Allah is maintaining us. Part of the meaning that that's why they translate or you may yet which is different to call wanna call you may call well, but it has a derivative which is similar, which is you are maintaining you are providing you are giving effectively you are doing, you're responsible. Yes. Okay, so there is that but there's also TA and PA is connected to Koba, and it's mentioned in the Quran Aparna comfortable, who are they given a subpoena? It's not just in a hadith. We know it's not even bommies obedience is a pure word, which means obedience. There's Mattia and there's Muhtar. There's the one who is obedient and the one who's being obeyed
multiangle, PA. And there's many Hadees that talk about pa but let's just say Ramakrishna, in the same verse, it says to his apartment to fill out the robotic, Clyde your father. So the question is where to start applying it without applying in the wedge backs? No, because already I swear to Allah told the students does not apply in the Hamamatsucho. Because we send laptops in the hope
that you can obey the creation in the disobedience to the grades. So it means it can only be applicable in two of the of the five. I know that Hanafis have seven, but for the sake of argument, five cap, which are many newer heights, and things which are one of the things which are most potentially these are super cool as well in that sphere. So for example,
if I say to my wife, okay, do something, and this thing is no hana. And this thing is not legit. The answer is yes, she should do it. Now for there to be a reason for her not to do it. Either. It must employ, like a harm. Islam incomprehensible, like, for example, a plastic flower, carry this big, heavy rock. Effectively, there's nothing haram about carrying a heavy rock. You see, there's nothing but if it's big and heavy goes on, if you can, at any distance, you can do this. Yeah, you can house off, in which case she could possibly do it. It's it's heavy enough for her to pick it up. But she could potentially refuse this because it's helpful to have money, for example. So there's a harmony
issue there. But this one is a bit delicate, because who gets to decide it? And this is where the scholars discuss, what where does the harm start? What is it depends. But in terms of
she going to work, it's not a right in Islam for you to work, this is a feminist principle is that you would ask this question, if we were living in the 1860s, or even the 1950s. This question is born out of the colonial feministic merit 100% Because they emphasize equal pay woman working woman and the houses of prestige, all of that stuff. That's what was in their books, so trickled down through the Western lens and the Western gaze to South Africa. And this is why the idea has come to your mind that I will not be fulfilled fully until I go and work.
So far is that in the Quran, TA is restricted. And I told you how but at the same time, this question is clearly, you know, it has a feminist assumption. And if someone doesn't realize that, it's as if they are plagued with something which they don't realize. It's like half COVID But you don't I mean, how cool.
So I'm doing I'm giving you the test. Now I have to tell telling you do you have
I'm not saying I'm not, I'm not saying you are a feminist, I'm saying you have feministic tendencies, or you have been affected by this, the colonial the white woman, narrative, hundreds, and the spine, you can sponge this new system. If you want to buy it starts with second order volition, you have to want to want to exploit this from business. If you don't want to want expansion from a secure system, and you are insistent that this is legitimate in Islam and UI system that you deserve this right and you will look fulfilled and you want to do this, then there should be an action by your husband taken against you. I think it's second way
or the horseshoe, or punish you in a manner which is befitting with the Sharia, and obnoxious Islam, someone who's not obedient isn't the majority of time that translation mesh is rebellious. She doesn't obey this particular kind of
woman can you can actually, according to some of that, I'm certainly happy whenever I can tell you that for sure. You can withhold funds from
you. This is something maybe medical, although it's not often you can withhold funds from them. Because the donations NASA has been dishonest, respectful because of the money.
And you could even withhold nights if you have more than one way because the other one,
I'm sorry, the same as the books of festival on the footpath. I've got my tradition. So anyway, every cause every action has an equal and opposite reaction. So this is what I would say. We hope that you come to the truth. We hope that you expand this from your system. But if you don't, I would say it's the it is the responsibility of the man to impose something on a person who insists that she deserves to be I imagine she goes and works, for example, for hours, and she goes away. So I thought, well, let me make the person citizen if you don't work, I'm sorry to say I will have to do.
I will say this, you might think is No, I will.
I will leave and go to another and you have to be willing as a man to walk away from the marriage. If you I've said other ones that this is leaving my boundaries, and I'm I can go somewhere else. Don't worry, you can find the man that will be willing to sell you. But this is not for me. I'm more interested in myself. I like I give you a good wage. myself. You know, I'll give you this. But you know, I don't use it. For example, if you want to work, there's a man out that you know that he can no you can maybe we can allow that. While you may allow 1000 other things which you're like, well
I'm gonna expand a little bit on this, right? Because this question comes up a lot in our podcast. And the sisters feel that they're going to school, they're going to university they study, right? And what's the purpose?
Is the purpose if they never gonna use any of this education, and they're going to use any of these studies? If the role is just to become wives and just to the who their husbands? Should they not? Why do they What's the need for them to become educated? What's the need for them to go and study medicine to become doctors, if their husband is going to tell them? If the man your husband? And he says, you know, I'm sorry? I can't? I don't? I don't get well. Okay, well, let me know as well. So it's good to yourself, because this is the second question that people usually have as a probing question. And there's a classic book, which I've commends is a very interesting one. It's called the
myth of male power. And it's written by Warren Farrell, it's very interesting when he makes the fall in love. He says it's what about how we define power? So for example, if the way you phrase it, okay, well, if you're only going to be sitting at home with your husband and little kids, you've minimized for depression, because we believe as Muslim people that raising a family having a child is one of the most important things they don't have. I'll tell you how we're family to fall in love. If a woman works in an office somewhere, and she's a manager,
and she's managing three different employees. Yes, and then the they tell her look, now you're going to be in charge of seven.
This will be considered to be an expansion of her role, and the influence and power has gone up, it could even be seen as a promotion. But if she has three children, and now she has five, that will be seen as an excess burden on her
by the feminist narrative. Now, consider the following. Who is more influential a mother or children or a female employer or employees?
A mother or a female employee?
Is that okay to ask you guys a question, would you put your hand up if you would die for your mother, and she was being attacked. But your allergy would die for your disbelieving employee, for example, if you'd be willing to, they have an influence, if we understand it, as they have the ability to shame somebody. To the point we know that the most powerful emotion is love having children in a family, this is an extremely powerful thing. And if if I were to get a degree and a master's degree and a PhD, and my only role was to relay that information to my children, this is better than going to sort of say 30 strangers, and relaying that information and they'll be
ungrateful to me. I used to be a teacher in a secondary school, and I used to relay information to ungrateful for the most part, children
who now have no allegiance to Me and Lord, no loyalty to me if they saw me getting stabbed in the streets in Durban and Cape Town in London. I'm hoping they will join in
that long saved me. But if my children hopefully men, women, see me in that predicament or in trouble, they will help. So the problem with the feminist movement is that they have made to the institution of motherhood in them deprecated it and embraced it to the point where the most powerful
connection that you can imagine, you see, has now been only to stay at home. Not mostly I know you played the back, of course, you know, you don't believe in stuff. But I'm just saying.
I'm just saying like, the point is, it's not only. You know, it's a good point when you said that, because this is exactly the assumption that he's only staying at home. It's the only thing at home, staying at home with your children. I sometimes think about the relationship that she has with children compared to my relationship with children. Wow, they no matter what, how much money I give them, or how many toys I get them, there's no way I can emulate that thing.
Oh, my God, maka, maka, maka, maka,
the prophets and psalms of your mother, your mother, your mother and your father.
As I can access, he has to go, he has to go to the silver medal and the bronze medal and he gets the consolation prize.
So it's true, though. I mean, this is a deep state.
Do you know what I mean? So what I'm saying is, you can only feel like it's not fulfilling to you. When you're comparing yourself with your counterpart from the dominant community, and more that you have a based motherhood, angle the family, that's the only way you can come to this conclusion. Otherwise, if you go to the PhD level, and memorize the Quran, and you have three kids, five kids, and you raise them up,
what better way to make use of your knowledge than it is. And of course, it doesn't mean that women can't go into Holika that she can't teach this in our community. And that doesn't even against women.
Sometimes a woman she can be so good at something architecture, she can be so good at something that maybe she's and of course, we need women doctors, of course, we meet with engineers, of course, we need women, nurses and stuff like that, of course, we need to allow I'm not against women working from that. But what I'm saying is that we do this member hatch out donor, we do this because it's required, that woman is doing it, because she needs the community needs it is not because she feels it will fulfill her
or what not to cut down because we have a double Ra is and also the maximum says that the dogma which is a necessity, is to be sufficed with as much as you need to suffice it. So it's not the case, okay, we get we've got enough team of doctors, now we've got gynecologist, we've got the architect, or whatever.
We don't need now, equality in every field.
Does that that's not what the feminists are even arguing for anyway, as we can see in Ukraine.
I went to the Czech Republic, in Prague, and I saw these Ukrainian interests. And they came into our house. And they were telling me like, you know, my husband, and my father is fighting in Ukraine. And she was smiling and having a good time,
honestly, was the women's restroom. But there was a quality there. We know it's this argument has been defeated already. So many times by so many people. We don't see people petitioning feminists petitioning to have equal rights outside of a coal mining field where the dangerous jobs and we don't see this.
It's in Parliament. And these places where where the relative security relative security, what about security companies, you know, in South Africa, the whole thing is, is dominated by security companies. The woman who's a feminist she will only higher males around 100%.
If these feminists in South Africa, if a woman came with guns or something to look and
let's see, you will see
the series in the catalog. Let's see, can you can we
the truth?
So what I'm saying is the false assumption. And we know examples of this. Look at firefighters in America, it was a very famous case where they tried to impose equality in the firefighting profession.
Yes. And he does an obstacle course they have to run or do. And it takes like, say 30 minutes or so on average. And so in order to get equality because men are much faster than women, on average, okay, no doubt about that. Let's look at the 100 meter sprints, whatever the Olympic rebels write, men are stronger than women on average. They have in order to get the equality that they wanted, they have to skew the results in a manner that now when you have a burning building, and the feminist is inside of it with her child was also just racing to be a feminist and screaming when the woman is coming out on a slower level. And she and her child has been insured with a wish the amount
of debt
why because of this false idea that we should have equality in every sector. And this comes from feminist movement. And quite frankly, it's destroying the West. So it doesn't need to be replicated or and you don't want to use your university degree in a place and if you do, that's fine. You can decide to speak to the man before or you decide to open up get married at 23 or 24. I have a couple of years. A woman is
Have you had a chicken decide to do that? Look, I finished my degree, I want two years in work just to see how it feels like, she really feels like she can't live without fulfillment has no work for two years
to come out, I've tried it now. It's really you want if this is such an important thing in the past to get married after that you don't have to be subjected to this, because the truth is this transactions I was in a restaurant are always restaurants. There was a waitress that I was telling them fitness.
What do you do? Would you do a restaurant? Can I have a glass of this? Can I have that? And
she was doing it? I was thinking well.
This is very good service. If our you know if you're going to play, look at the waitresses, what didn't what they're doing this, obviously people, here's the food isn't going to hot towels. Well, they were going south african airlines, I don't know.
What the point is, is that all you're doing by going into work is you're moving away from the obedience of your husband in that environment, and you're going to the obedience of somebody else. Maybe a white man,
a white man, if he tells you what to do you have to obey Him. And if not, you're fine. So why is controversial for me to say, I tell you what to do, if you don't like it, you're almost saying the same system,
the white man is able to implement that
same situation. So you're you've got two groups over you, you've got the colonial boom of feminism, the white woman is the Buddha is dead. And you want to that and then you've got the colonial view of, let's say, the white man, or this one or that one?
Whoever it is that you're going to please in the in the work environment. You got to boo boo Sophie.
I don't think this is once again until Christmas in pieces a whole deal actually. But if you feel like you can't do without going through a couple of years of working, see that this most overrated experience in the world? Would you want to work as retail? But don't know, where do you want to work? You're going to go and teach for companies? Yeah. Trust me is overrated. Go try it.
I'm looking to buy it. I like I used to have a
* of years that were female or someone has no problem, they can do their job very well. Actually, no one, no one's doubting that. You really, really need this to finish. I'll do it, do it. But don't question.
The man. When you go into the hierarchy, you accept the hierarchy with the assignment.
Okay, we have about 10 more minutes before we're going to need acid. So we're going to take stool just to put that together. Right. So Jack mentioned, it's important to have these discussions before marriage. So very important that before marriage, these discussions take place. So for sisters out there to have those discussions with your prospective husbands for the men to have these discussions with your prospective wives before you get married, so that when you get married, you do not start the conversation then because then it's a bit late. So challenges for that. For that answer. I'm going to take two questions from the brothers. And we're going to try and get to through two or
three more questions on the Sisters Brothers
COVID.
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Excellent. And
the very question on your phone.
idea is that we cannot justify our rational faculties. So my question to you is, Can you can you use deduction to support that?
If you could just Yes. So
what do you mean by the option here? Just to be clear.
That's been in the sense of fantasies.
Yeah, so yeah, I mean, so in the book, it articulates why atheism is irrational. Because under atheism are a form of atheism, which is called philosophical naturalism and cannot explain our rational faculties. So what is philosophical naturalism? It's basically actually permeating the academic sphere.
And philosophical naturalism is number one, there is no God.
There is no supernatural, there is no non physical and everything can be explained by or reduced to physical processes. This is a metaphysic you need this is the lens, there's no evidence for it. The lens is the starting point. Is the lens, the point on the eyes in order to understand the world? Is that clear? So the argument is under philosophical naturalism, atheistic, metaphysical naturalism, you cannot extend your ability to reason.
And there are many forms of this argument. A simple form of this argument is, is basically understanding the necessity of logical relations, right? So if I say for example, premise number one, I'm going to give you the conclusion, okay, primary simple one. Whatever exists, whatever begins to exist has a cause. Premise number two, the universe began to exist.
Therefore the universe has a code. That's actually a deductive
argument isn't the premises guarantee the truth of the conclusion there is a logical relation between the conclusion and the previous premises. Where is this relation?
I want to see in the physical world was that relation, right? You can't reduce it to physical processes, right? In actual fact, you need the logical relations know to understand the physical world in the first place. So the argument is can philosophical metaphysical, natural explain even things like logical relations? Because Because physical process of applying called a non rational
according to the philosophical naturalist, unless they can chance, physical process of some kind of mind. Well, that is not philosophical naturalism anymore. Is that a good replacement? Yeah. So for some connection says that, that physical processes applied code and non rational electrons whizzing round who, right? There's no mind to electron, there's no intentionality me, meaning that electron is not about of something else, right?
interest of time, can we go
to after the session, if you can simply jump after the session and go into this very deep discussion? If I was to go pray now just continue? We can do that. So Yanni, that's wonderful. So you can explain that by borrowing called physical process, because
to have logical relations, there's a sense of having an insight, you see into the equation, what happens in your mind, you take premises, and you take them on an intellectual journey, and you form a conclusion for the physical process of mine called a non rational. So that's one very basic attempt of explaining it, or we'll have to explain it more after the salami should be you can remain standing this question from the sisters, many new Muslims are here as well. So advice for new Muslims. Yeah, so the book we adopt as a team and as previous organizations like aI era, and generally speaking, as a Tao movement, is that you focus on two things.
Number one, you focus on who Allah is, and how to have a relationship with Allah, meaning the Salah, everything else, generally speaking, is secondary. And this is based on the Hadith of the first Assam with regards to what the jungles when he went to Yemen. And the Prophet sallallahu, I think was said that you gotta go to a community. And if they accept the shahada, then get them to understand there are five different prayers once they do that, and he continues to continues. So focus on who is Allah, His names and attributes and letters, man feels good for you, and so on and so forth. And focus on the Salah, your relationship with Allah, that is foundational number one,
number two, another Hadith. That concerns me, if enjoyable, go to Yemen, the Prophet SAW Allah while he was upset, make things easy for people cooperate with one another, don't divide, Don't make things difficult. So that should be the approach to new Muslims. Okay. And I will add a quick third point, try and create social structures in place to support your new Muslim especially amongst the black community, bring them into the community. They are your brothers, they're your sisters, okay? They need social support problems with family problems with their own babies, they came from a village that's not that's not Muslim. create those support structures, that kind of concern. You
have someone who's connected to them too often to show that they're praying and they know what Allah is, and the social affairs are not difficult and it's made easy to mentor them through that process. Is this clear those three points as the general strategies of a strategy channel
this question, they say
a lot of us youth is driven by uses social media. Oh, social media.
Oh, okay. I don't know who that guy is. Wildlife isn't doing like I don't even know if this is, Ronaldo. Yes. Don't say, Hollywood, Bollywood, hairstyles, cars, etc, etc. How do you disconnect from all of this?
Look, I mean, you have to first of all, categorize which is probably his highlight, which was his heart.
And I don't want to go into a detail like which would cause controversy among certain because I'm of the discussions here in this community. So I'm not going to give my opinion on it.
But the point is, is how do you disconnect from the dunya overall sense? Obviously, the problem I was
mentioned is that the dunya you have McCullough wasn't had female that nests you have
Candace that one person came to the room I saw him I asked him a Google Niara shaken enough out to be a harmony, Allah harmony. And so tell me about something that if I do it, Allah will love me and the people will love.
He said, Isn't for dunya leave of the world. And Allah will love me was that she mindedness and leave off what the people have and that people would love if we didn't work? It doesn't mean we have to do they're completely. The classes will attend to them. I'll see. But come in Antonia, don't forget your portion from this world. Okay, now, of course this is that is definitely. But put that aside. The pasta salad did explicitly mentioned.
To humbler? Who was his hobby, you can set up a Facebook, but I'm in the masjid. I'm always serious. But when I go home on playground,
he's set hours I spent one hour doing this. So what are we doing that
we can't constrict ourselves too much.
There has to be some level outlet. There has to be sports that we do. I mean, going back to this is kind of connected in a way to the previous question about things that you want to do to make yourself you feel fulfilled as a man or as a woman.
There are special specific things, as a man that you may feel like you need to do in order to feel fulfilled, engage in sports, engage in a social activity. You know, what some people just haven't watched it, maybe go and see the creation of an artist. Or do some people beautiful? Cape Town home was beautiful. I know. It's not exactly your singular. It's right rated as one of those beautiful cities in the world. And this place Dublin is very beautiful. Trust me. It's probably more beautiful than most cities in Europe, not all of us. So you had a beautiful place. Get yourself active. But don't expect too much of yourself either. You know, have your social time enjoy your life a little
bit, you know, it's not meant to be constricted. Life is meant to be constricted like this, you may not have fun.
You know? You're that's not how to have fun. So how to enjoy your life right now. Have a good time with stuff like that. So I want to say how do you disconnect? Make sure it's in your sleeve and not in your heart?
Like make sure that it's not you're not addicted to it the way I was addicted to those
because it's not just as people are social media.
People are effectively addicted to social media people are effectively addicted sorry to say I mean
people are effectively addicted to gambling people are effectively addicted to sugar. These are things you don't want to be addicted to anything in life. It will spike up your LogMeIn a lot of bass lines, you'll feel worse to take it from a famous book by Bob Vander Kolk you know the body keeps score if you're addicted to something you might have a good time but then there'll be a trade off or there's a psychological traits and spiritual trade off or physical trade off. So keep a balance your life mind body and soul. And yet don't get this connect fully because when I shared the deed
in the DNA of the religion is ease and if you try too hard to overburden yourself, then it will overcome overtakes you the original overthinking the religion is a marathon not a sprint.
This is not such easy all you got to think about whatever page you're gonna go on now is the same pace you need to be over the next two years. If you start doing Galileo and you're doing like three hours consider isn't pace I will be able to continue the values that's why it was the best of our level what's
the most consistent and even small? So try and create balances. Remember the religion is a marathon not a sprint.
And you know there's nothing wrong with having fun from time to time
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How to Adjust the topic of LGBTQ plus without kids under 10 years old, how to advise a youngster that comes out to you or is struggling with his or her sexuality. Hello. I like what Hunter said the other day in the lecture. And he said that today actually as well, which is you shouldn't identify with your sexuality like the idea of what the question is.
At what point do you come get? Sorry?
At what point would you can you consider someone as a homosexual when he can be labeled this person is homosexual?
Now, the Islamic answer to that is there's not really, you should identify with how you feel. There's no proof to show that you should identify with how you feel. If you have those emotions, it doesn't mean you should identify, you should call yourself gay.
You have those emotions, you should first of all, why are you gay? It's not you're not gay. You just have homosexual inclinations. That's fine. So long as you don't act upon that there's a way that you can change this. There was a person who came up to me, and he had a big long beard. And there was a Speaker's Corner. And he said to me, Listen, you said, Can we speak in the, in the on the corner? Yeah, I said five years ago that walked away, I suppose. Look, I've been having homosexual desires. And he's been burdened
by them.
I said,
so worried he said, I can't get married or find women attractive.
So I see. See, I said didn't ask a question. I said, is this Do you not find them attractive from?
Is it because of the other?
This one look into this. I said, do you find them attractive from a romantic perspective, or from a sexual perspective, because there is a difference. Most anthropologists they make a distinction between, for example, they call it the dopamine system, and the sorceress system, the sexual system. So somebody said, I don't want to spend all my life with a woman and be
sorry, I don't want to spend my life with a man I don't I don't want to be in a romantic relation. I just feel sexually attracted to men. That's what he said to me. Since already,
you cannot say you're gay. Because for you to be fully gay, according to that, you'd have to have both conditions, you'd have to have romantic romantic attraction, and you'd have to have sexual attraction. So that's the first thing that I asked him a question.
I said to him listen,
I said to him,
you don't you say you don't find them attractive at all. So that's why I don't find them attractive at all.
So okay, what about volleyball the woman
honestly, I wanted to gauge this a bit, like I said, because she's androgynous. She has male masculine features, like you know, sometimes a bodybuilder, woman, big muscles, everything.
He said, I said, let me ask you a question with a bodybuilder woman. Would you be more likely to find out attractive or less likely?
Said more likely, as already there? You can see this extense some? I'm trying to bring them back to the park.
Service. Do you drink coffee?
To get something?
I said, Do you remember the first time you've ever drank coffee? He said yes. So how did it taste the other day? How was the experience? He goes, it's very bitter. It's very bitter experience.
Since you drink it now. Yes.
So you liked it nicely? Yes. That's the same thing with when
I said you know, you have to believe you have to believe that there is a possibility that your your sexual preferences will change.
Once you've got them to admit that their sexual preferences can actually change from homosexual to heterosexual the job is half done.
This is why they had a psychology something called Conversion therapy. That happens in America which is effectively psychological tools to bring someone out of almost a drive thru to interest, ality they have those tools. Now they've made it illegal in many countries in the West is illegal to have that. The good thing is in South Africa, it is not illegal to do that. So you can still access the syllabi, you can have trained counselors that they can help people with those emotions.
And the homosexual will admit to himself because I've watched a lot of these conversion stories. I mean, like, you know, we have the Rebbe that tells you how became Muslim, for example, like I saw this I and that's it, I handled that and that to me was that was a cool community have a similar thing. I was in uni and on campus. They have an experience or something and they they say I cannot because I don't know I imagined to be closer to talking about him. Because it became because I am there's an assumption that everyone should be coming out some imaginary closet. It's a fiction. It's a religious myth that they've created the LGBT religion, the closet, it's like their version of the
Deaf determine the causes, and they open it.
So they came out of the closet, but then I go on to something which is the fact that they believe it is possible
for heterosexual to change sexuality and become homosexual,
the majority that says Sexuality is fluid. That's what they say to you. But if you believe that Sexuality is fluid, such that homosexual can recovering from sexual, then it should be fluid the other way around as well.
So the homosexual if he's been ingenuous and authentic, you will tell you that it is possible for homosexual if you really wanted to, to become a heterosexual. So from a psychological perspective,
this is not an impossibility or absurdity. If it because this is a pastoral questions as a question not to do with the morality of homosexuals, it's a question of how to deal with people with certain emotions
you see in the community.
And there are factors that I will not mentioned here, relating to if you married.
Somebody,
can you let me imagine if you think about something like that, is it permissible or not, I'm not going into this. But the point is, is that there are ways of transforming your sexuality. Once you understand that there's a will, that you know that there's a way and if you get them to admit that there's a possibility of them becoming heterosexual, either in a romantic sense and or essential sense, the balance off with them, because we need counselors and psychological experts to combine syllabi and stuff like that. It also is a great atmosphere, where people feel comfortable coming to these people, maybe on a bonus level. On my program, a lot of us you don't need to be Yanni exposed
as a person. We in South Africa, you have an advantage, which is the advantages. It's legal, it's illegal in many parts of the West.
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