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The gift of the givers foundation provides relief and aid to people affected by natural and manmade disasters, including children with dyslexia and autism. They are involved in various initiatives, including improving school and providing free mental health care. The foundation is also aica for children who need support and finding a stable family for one's life. They emphasize the importance of finding ways for oneself to find a way for herself to find a way for herself to find a way for herself to find a way for herself to find a way for herself to find a way for herself to find a way for herself to find a way for herself to find a way for herself to find a way for herself to find a way for herself to find a way for herself to find a way for herself to find a way for herself to find a way for herself to find a way for herself to find a way for herself to find a way for herself to find a way for herself to find a way for herself to find a

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			Earlier this year, two massive
earthquakes flattened parts of
		
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			Turkey and Syria. The impact was
devastating and true to form,
		
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			South Africa's gift of the givers
sprang into action, dispatching
		
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			rescue personnel and crucial
medical supplies, food and
		
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			blankets to the worst hit area. It
was the latest humanitarian
		
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			intervention in a catalog of
natural and manmade disasters
		
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			stretching back decades. The
reason gift of the givers is
		
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			viewed with such pride by South
Africans and in a country
		
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			desperate for heroes and good news
stories, this celebrated
		
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			Foundation provides both. Guest
presenter, Lorenza Eckart sat down
		
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			with their founder, Dr India
Suleiman.
		
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			It's just after seven o'clock in
the morning, and the school run is
		
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			in full swing.
		
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			Rahmah is among the sea of
children walking to school as so
		
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			many times before her dad walks
alongside her to the classroom.
		
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			Seven year old Rahma is completely
unaware that disaster follows his
		
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			every step.
		
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			The area is one of the worst hit
by Mondays
		
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			to distribute relief relief
workers from death of most of the
		
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			injuries that we're seeing is
traumatic.
		
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			In my time working as a journalist
in South Africa, I've seen the
		
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			very worst and the very best of
us, but few people embody the
		
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			spirit of this country, like the
man I set out to meet today, and
		
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			you'll find him right here in this
industrial part of Peter
		
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			Maritzburg.
		
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			Hi, Lorenzo, welcome to gift of
the givers. Very good having you.
		
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			Dr Imtiaz Suleiman is a South
African humanitarian who founded
		
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			the gift of the givers foundation
in 1992
		
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			he gave up his successful medical
practice to follow a calling,
		
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			resulting in this the largest
disaster response organization of
		
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			African origin, providing
emergency relief and aid to people
		
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			affected by natural disasters,
wars and other crises in over 40
		
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			countries. Much of the relief aid
is sent from this warehouse. I
		
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			never expected to be so big. You
know, when you think of a small
		
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			Muslim group in South Africa, how
big are you going to be? You don't
		
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			have that kind of big money where
everybody from all racism to all
		
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			religions will participate, where
you have mixed teams going all
		
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			across the world. How big is the
organization today? 107 full time
		
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			people in South Africa, probably
500 staff around the world, keeps
		
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			on the givers. Wasn't my idea.
It's totally spiritual. I met
		
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			spiritual teacher in Turkey in
1992 the spiritual teacher just
		
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			picks up his head, makes eye
contact with me and looks
		
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			heavenwards and in FLUENT Turkish,
and I don't speak a word of
		
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			Turkish, he said, My son, I'm not
asking you, I'm instructing you to
		
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			form an organization. A name in
Arabic will be wagful waqifen.
		
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			Gift of the givers, you will serve
people of all races, all
		
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			religions, all colors, all
classes, all cultures. You
		
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			will expect nothing in return, not
even a thank you. This is an
		
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			instruction for you for the rest
of your life, whatever you do is
		
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			done through you and not by you.
		
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			After all these years, Dr Suleiman
continues to answer the call to
		
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			help those in need. The gift of
the givers is involved in a wide
		
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			variety of initiatives, from
improving hospitals and schools to
		
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			providing free mental health care.
They rely entirely on donations in
		
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			cash or in kind. Many years ago,
this house was the headquarters of
		
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			the gift of the givers. Today,
it's a refuge for people in the
		
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			community in need of counseling
and psychological support.
		
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			Heading up this program is gift of
the givers. Co Founder and Dr
		
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			Suleiman's wife, Zora Suleman.
They weren't any psychological
		
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			support services for the Indian
Muslim community. And so that is
		
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			why I decided, Okay, let's start
off this gift of the givers, care
		
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			line, counseling service, as much
as I thought this was only for the
		
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			Muslim and the Indian community,
it opened up to everybody. And we
		
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			also work in schools, where we do
lots of life skills, and we do
		
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			topics like anti bullying, anger
management, substance abuse,
		
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			support, from give to the givers
is so immense, we will really
		
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			struggle to allow our children to
reach the standard that they are
		
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			without their support.
		
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			What was once a bare, lifeless
classroom now.
		
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			Bloomed with vibrant colors,
offering a lifeline to the less
		
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			fortunate children who would have
otherwise been deprived of such
		
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			opportunities. This remarkable
transformation owes much to
		
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			principal, super sad, unwavering
commitment to the school. He
		
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			reached out to Dr Suleiman for
assistance children who are
		
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			dyslexic, have autism, whatever
reason, they seem to be Children
		
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			of a Lesser God, and support is
missing. But when doc and the
		
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			Foundation came along, they saw
this need for us to really support
		
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			the vulnerable children. They come
in with that compassion, that
		
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			love. He's such an optimistic
person, where I would be
		
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			struggling to find a way. He just
brings this optimism and gives it
		
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			to us and says, here's the way for
you.
		
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			It's all things that are doable,
and you're making a difference to
		
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			somebody's life. You can't make a
difference to 65 million people's
		
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			lives, but you can make a
difference to one life, and every
		
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			day you had a few more lives. And
that's what we believe in doing.
		
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			When you help the people, you
still just feel this peace when
		
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			you see a smile on the person's
face or a child being happy with
		
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			something, something happens in
your soul. I can't explain it.
		
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			I find peace in my prayer.
		
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			I find peace in my spiritual
feelings.
		
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			Every time I need some arrangement
or some network, it comes right in
		
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			front of me.
		
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			I need people. They call me. If I
need something, I get to know
		
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			about it. If something is about to
happen, I made a connection three
		
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			weeks before it
		
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			happens. It all comes at the right
time, in the right place. It just
		
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			placed in front for you, there's
no doubt in 30 years that
		
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			everything about this is
spiritual.
		
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			Dr Imtiaz Suleiman's selfless
dedication over the last three
		
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			decades has saved millions of
people, yet it has taken a
		
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			profound toll on his own life. The
		
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			spiritual teacher told me
specifically that when you do this
		
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			job, you got to divide your life
into three parts, one part for
		
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			yourself, one part for your
family, and one part for what you
		
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			going to do. I could never follow
that formula. Everything went
		
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			because I basically destroyed the
family. And that's the only regret
		
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			that I have in my life. I've lost
out on my children
		
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			in those years, which were the
early years of my children,
		
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			India's was away a lot of the
time, overseas for long and
		
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			extended periods, I looked at
myself as the one stable anchor in
		
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			my children's life, because
emptiels was traveling so
		
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			extensively they need a semblance
of a solid family, I wasn't going
		
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			to compromise that at any cost.
God has steered our paths in our
		
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			life, but we've accepted that this
is our life, and with it comes a
		
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			lot of sacrifices. And
		
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			then you met your second wife.
Yeah, I met her after the
		
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			earthquake in Pakistan in 2005
		
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			and then in 2007
		
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			December we got married.
		
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			I think the greatest joy is when I
see my family happy. In fact, the
		
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			kids laugh at me. They said, When
I tell a joke, it's not funny, and
		
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			then they start laughing. So I
said, if my joke is not funny, why
		
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			are you laughing?
		
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			It's more about happiness, and
watch the children grow, the
		
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			grandchildren grow,
		
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			to see their happiness, to see
their progress, to see their
		
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			development,
		
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			and how they can attach to you an
eventual account. Want to be only
		
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			with you.
		
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			How do you control your emotions
when you go on these responses and
		
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			you meet these communities and you
see the sadness in the world. God
		
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			has given me a special gift. It
doesn't move me.
		
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			I don't get attached to any
situation. And I tell my teens
		
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			before they leave and said, feel
for the situation. Don't feel for
		
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			the individual.
		
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			Given what Dr Suleiman has seen he
remains optimistic about South
		
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			Africa's future.
		
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			I'm a disaster tourist. I don't
visit countries in good times. I
		
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			go in the worst of times, and I've
seen real havoc. We're nowhere
		
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			near that.
		
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			After having spent some time with
Dr MTR, Suleiman, I've learned
		
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			that it really doesn't take much
to make a difference. We just need
		
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			to look around us and start
somewhere.
		
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			As long as we participate in the
life of our lives within the
		
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			country, we will fix the system.
And you can see it already. People
		
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			are saying we'll fix the oceans,
we'll fix the potholes, we'll cut
		
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			the badges on.
		
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			The side, we do have problems, not
something that we can't fix. And
		
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			the most important thing is active
citizenry. The country does not
		
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			belong to the government.
		
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			Let's go back to 27 April, 1994
		
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			it is the single greatest event in
our country, not because of black
		
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			government to replace the white
government. We were told, full
		
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			your houses with food. Nothing
happened.
		
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			Everybody was calm, peaceful.
Voted but in nothing that
		
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			happened. Actually, everything
happened. They said in the action,
		
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			we're going to rebuild this
country. If you haven't learned
		
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			from that, sorry you haven't
learned anything.
		
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