Imtiaz Sooliman – Gift of the Givers helps Free State cholera patients

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Aisha, a water director at Freder fort, discusses the loss of family members in a housing situation due to a housing crisis. The department of Water and Sanitation is working to issue boil water notice advisories in municipalities where the water quality is at high risk of cholera outbreak. The challenges of maintaining safe water quality and the potential for pathogens to affect safety are discussed, with a need for urgency in issuing these notices. The speakers emphasize the need for more water tankers and the difficulty of finding the right quality for a supply system.

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			Thanks for staying with us. Let's
continue now a look at some of the
		
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			water issues, and we speak to gift
of the givers. Founder, Doctor
		
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			Imtiaz, Sudirman and ha AHL water
director, Aisha la her who join us
		
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			both now. Thank you so much for
time this afternoon. Doctor soda,
		
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			I'm going to begin with you. You
now were assisting in the area as
		
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			gift of the givers at Freder fort.
Give us a sense of how the
		
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			situation is on the ground.
		
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			Good evening, it's the we got the
history, even it was sad from the
		
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			time we got the yesterday
afternoon, when we got the
		
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			message, we were told that, you
know, there's a crisis of pallava
		
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			just picked up earlier, but there
were no deaths yesterday. We were
		
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			told that there were three deaths.
So anyway, they went to the family
		
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			that were affected. And all they
get to from the same family, the
		
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			grandmother, the mother and aunt.
And when my teams went into the
		
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			house, you know, it was a very
poor situation. And there was a
		
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			teenage girl and young siblings,
they were the only members of the
		
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			family left. They were
traumatized, you know, they were
		
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			affected. They didn't have enough
material supplies, and they said
		
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			clearly, then all the three family
members at Daria, they had cramps,
		
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			they went to the hospital and they
died. It says the same message for
		
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			all three. And from area, started
talking and said, Look, there is a
		
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			water crisis here. We do need
water. But it was late last night,
		
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			so we couldn't do much by the time
we finished off in that house. But
		
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			today, wherever they went, you
know, but to the current of the
		
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			municipality and the local
councilors, they arranged one
		
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			place for everybody to come, and
everybody wanted water, which
		
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			tells me there's a serious problem
in the area, and a serious one.
		
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			Are they getting any help at all?
Those two siblings?
		
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			Well, we're going to look into
that. Nobody. They will need
		
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			support. It's similar to what
happened in Hamas. 23 families
		
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			lost family members. We support
those families, but funeral and
		
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			additional supplies for them,
biscuits definitely are going to
		
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			need support. And you know, we'll
come back to support them, because
		
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			when we went in, initially, it was
just water and hygiene items. And
		
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			of course, we hydration solution
for the people itself with the
		
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			next we didn't know. We're not
sure what to expect until we get
		
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			there ourselves. The problem is we
caught what multiple what
		
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			interventions. It's not only
federal for in Makanda, which is
		
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			an equal life problem. Every day
we're developing water for Fort,
		
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			mofot, Adelaide and other areas
around because there is just not
		
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			enough water. So our water tanks
have been working since 2020
		
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			and now we've got an additional
crisis of more water challenges,
		
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			but this time it's infected water.
You just don't know water, it's
		
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			infected water, which is making
the situation more complex. Yeah,
		
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			different areas,
		
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			especially. And I'm going to come
back to that in just a moment,
		
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			because, I mean, you listen to the
Department of Water and
		
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			Sanitation, for example, saying
that there's been a decline in the
		
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			country's water quality. And this,
of course, is in the latest
		
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			report. And Aisha, I wondered,
then, in the face of this, you
		
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			know, the contaminated water, as
we are seeing in some of the
		
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			municipalities, as well as this
cholera outbreak, what needs to be
		
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			done to make sure that the
situation is brought under
		
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			control. Now,
		
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			hello bongiwe, and to the
listeners as well. Thanks for this
		
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			opportunity to respond. I think
the most important thing is that
		
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			the reports have been published by
the Minister, by the Department of
		
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			Water and Sanitation, the very
comprehensive reports, if you look
		
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			at the blue drop white report, it
clearly says the treatment plants
		
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			that were assessed where the water
quality is not good. So what is
		
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			needed is urgent interventions in
those municipalities to ensure
		
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			safe water is delivered. So what
can we do? People need to
		
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			understand where that is. The
department needs to react
		
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			immediately to go out and issue
boil water notices in those
		
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			municipalities where the water is
at high risk. I think it's
		
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			important that people understand
when the boil water notices issued
		
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			that they do not consume the dip
water, because it does present a
		
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			serious health risk. It may not be
cholera, but equalizes equally a
		
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			health risk as well. So the boil
water notices must be issued where
		
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			the water quality is not safe. So
listening to you, then, Aisha and
		
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			what the department had to say
that, you know, in some of these
		
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			municipalities, you're looking at
a failure because there's
		
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			instability, and they're not then
testing the water as often as they
		
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			should. So the Department of Water
and Sanitation should not be
		
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			waiting to be invited. It should
actually be going into these
		
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			municipalities just to get a sense
of the situation and to assist.
		
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			Remember the what she would
already reports on certain systems
		
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			that were assessed, but the
monthly results, the result that
		
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			the department gets, already tells
them what the quality of the water
		
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			is. If it is a failure, it is a
failure. So we already know where
		
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			the failures are. If there is no
monitoring, then the potential for
		
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			contamination is there because
there is no monitoring to verify
		
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			the safety. So the department
already knows exactly which supply
		
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			system does not have monitoring
		
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			information, or whether where the
monitoring information shows that
		
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			the water is not safe. So it's not
that you have to go and
		
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			investigate which one it is. We
already know which ones they are.
		
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			I think that oil water notices
are.
		
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			Critical, because now we're not
only talking about E coli, we're
		
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			talking about potential for
cholera as well that can enter the
		
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			supply system because there's
insufficient disinfection. So I
		
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			think we need to have a sense of
urgency in issuing these water
		
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			notices advisories to communities.
Dr cinnamon, you are on the
		
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			ground. Your team is there
working, as you've said, in
		
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			various areas across the country,
are these boiled water notices out
		
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			there?
		
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			No, we haven't seen any boiled
water notices because we're
		
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			providing the water. So nobody's
boiling water because we provide
		
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			the water. We're providing water
tankers. We have brought in
		
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			additional water tankers. And you
know, our teams work Monday to
		
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			Sunday, so up till now, and of
course, the load sharing is not
		
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			going to be easy to keep boiling
water. Keep boiling water. It's a
		
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			challenge. You know, of course,
you can boil the water early, let
		
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			it fall and then pick it up later.
That's practical, yes, but because
		
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			we're providing the water tankers.
And of course, we've drilled
		
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			boreholes in the last three years.
We've drilled 540 volts in many
		
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			parts of the country. We do have
challenges in some of the
		
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			boreholes where the water quality
where there is some E coli or this
		
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			chemical metals, which we have to
then remove from the water. And
		
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			that's a very expensive business.
Some of some of those plants have
		
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			cost us a million Rand each to
purify the water, and some are
		
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			300,000 Rand, some 50,000 Rand. So
every additional chip and job
		
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			besides maintaining the borehole,
you got to put in filtration
		
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			plants and maintain that. But
after now, look, we've been doing
		
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			well. There are many areas that
require more in addition to what
		
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			Aisha I said, I would say while
putting up a whole oil, notice
		
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			boiling water, notice we may have
to drill more holes in more areas
		
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			to make it more accessible quickly
to people. We've seen the success
		
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			of the poles. We've seen how they
work. 21 in one area, 12 in
		
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			another area, 45 in another area.
And it's not solving the problem,
		
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			but it's easing the situation of
the people to a large extent.
		
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			Aisha, there's something that you
know. Just two days ago, we were
		
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			talking to some viewers who were
giving us a sense of the water
		
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			quality in their towns and how
things are looking there. A number
		
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			of them are saying that their
water appears to be brown and they
		
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			don't know it looks like it's got
sand, but they don't know what's
		
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			going on. Are you able to tell
them, if they're watching what's
		
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			happening there?
		
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			Look, it's great. I forgot to look
at water and decide what the
		
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			quality is. Water can have sand
even stop free of pathogens. Water
		
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			can be absolutely clear and have
pathogens. So you cannot evaluate
		
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			the safety of your water just by
looking at it. If it smells funny,
		
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			yeah, I would be suspicious of
that, but you cannot smell
		
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			pathogens as well. So the color of
the water alone does not give you
		
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			any indication. But we as human
beings, obviously, if we see dirty
		
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			water, we don't want to drink it,
because we believe that it's not
		
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			galatical, and that is a good
thing to go go by, because that
		
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			means whatever has happened
upstream has ensured that there is
		
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			sand in the water which could have
contaminants associated with it.
		
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			So yes, it could be an indication
that the water is not safe, but
		
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			not necessarily interesting. Very
interesting point there Aisha, and
		
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			you know, one doesn't even think
about something along those lines,
		
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			because as soon as you say someone
sees brown water, they think
		
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			definitely unsafe. But let me
thank you both for your time, and
		
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			let's continue then to monitor
this particular situation. And I
		
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			do appreciate your time this
afternoon. That was Doctor Imtiaz
		
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			Suleiman, founder of the gift of
the givers, as well as AHL water
		
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			director Aisha Lahey.