Hosai Mojaddidi – Purification of the Heart for Muslimahs (Monthly Sisterhood Halaqa Part 3)

Hosai Mojaddidi
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The speakers emphasize the importance of courtesy and modesty in Arabic, as it is essential for success of purification. They also stress the cycle of abuse and the natural environment of behavior. The speakers emphasize the need for parents to handle their behavior and rewthink their values, avoiding harmscale, and avoiding negative comments. They stress the importance of avoiding harmself and avoiding negative comments, and reminding parents to deal with their children and avoid harms themselves.
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So today we're going to begin on page one, officially and this is

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introduction to purification. So the way this text is is this is a

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classical Arabic poem written by email by Maloof. And what she has

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done is he's translated everything in English. So we have the verses

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of the poem, and then there's commentary that he provides. And

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so inshallah we'll will reflect it at any point if you guys have

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questions or insights or input, feel free. Let's keep this like

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engaging. You know, I want it to be a dialogue or discussion. So

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I'll read from the poem versus his poem verses one to eight. I begin

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by starting with the heart of beginnings, for it is the highest

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and noblest of beginnings. Have courtesy with God the high and the

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majestic, by practicing modesty and humility, dejected, out of

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shame and humility, humbled in all imploring Him, by giving up your

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designs for his emptied of covetousness for what his servants

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have, by hastening to fulfill his commands. And by being wary of the

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subtle encroachment of bad manners. If you the spiritual

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aspirant, realize your attributes of servitude, you will then be

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assisted with something of the attributes of the Eternally

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Besought. Realize your abject character and impoverishment and

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you will gain dignity and wealth from the all powerful, there is no

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salvation like the hearts salvation, given that all the

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limbs and organs respond to its desires.

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Courtesy the heart of purification, Imam Molad begins

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his Arabic didactic poem with a play on words, that is lost in

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translation, beginning in Arabic is Babu and the word for heart hub

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also means to reverse something. Reversing the letters in the word

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by do results in the word a dub, which is the term for courtesy.

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And that is where this treaties begins, since courtesy is the

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portal to the purification of the heart. So, again, a DAP. In order

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to do this process of cleaning the heart of spiritual disease, we

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have to understand and define what a DAP is. So now we're going to

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begin with that right up in Arabic holds several meanings. In

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addition to courtesy, a dub a derivative or excuse me, a deep

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derivative of a dub, for example, has come to mean and rude ICT

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person, someone who has learned as high manners and courtesy are

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associated with learning and irritation. However, the idea of

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courtesy is firmly established at the root of the word edip. Imamo.

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Load starts his treaties with courtesy since excellent behavior

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and comportment are the doorkeepers to the science of

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spiritual purification. One must have courtesy with regard to God

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behave properly with respect to his presence, if he or she wishes

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to purify the heart. But how does one achieve this courtesy? Mahmoud

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mentions two requisite qualities associated with courtesy, modesty,

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hyah, and humility vote. So in order for us to achieve a dev,

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which is a prerequisite of purification, we have to first

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achieve the two prerequisites of adab, which are modesty and

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humility, and modesty. So these three are these two work to help

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us to achieve that state of other which is necessary if we're going

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to do this proper. Right? So now let's let's talk more in depth

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about these two words, because they're used so often in different

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ways. But in this context, it's important to understand how Yeah,

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in Arabic, conveys the meaning of shame. Though the root word of

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Hyah, is closely associated with life and living. The Prophet

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sallallahu Sallam stated every religion has a characteristic of

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that religion, I'm sorry, every excuse me, every religion has a

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quality that is characteristic of that religion. And the

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characteristic of my religion is higher, an internal sense of shame

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that includes bashfulness, and modesty. As children, many of us

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have had someone say to us at times, shame on you.

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Unfortunately, shame has now come to be viewed as a negative word,

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as if it were a pejorative, parents are now often advised to

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never cause a child to feel shame. The current wisdom largely largely

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suggests that adults should always make the child feel good

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regardless of his or her behavior. However, doing so eventually

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disables naturally occurring deterrence to misbehavior. So

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let's unpack that for a little bit. Because, again, you know, as

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a teacher who's worked with young children, also as a parent and

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someone who's kind of seen the spectrum right around child

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rearing child in parenting, you find, I'm sure

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Many of us, even in our own experiences, right, we've seen the

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devastating effects of someone who doesn't understand this, right?

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When you negatively speak to a child, you talk down to them, and

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you shame them without this context of doing it, you know,

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again, in the with the right, Nia, right, it's one thing to, to just

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want to shame for the sake of, you know, whatever the case may be,

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sometimes people become, they can't regulate their own emotions,

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right? So it's like, I'm angry over a situation. And because I

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don't have the ability to regulate my emotion, I take it out on you,

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the individual or the child in this case. So parents often do

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that educators, teachers do that adults, grandparents, right, we

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see, unfortunately, the misuse of this concept of of inculcating

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internal shame, right. And that's where we've gotten, we've gone to

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this other extreme of now, all shame, categorically is seen as

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bad. What that what we're being told here is actually, you have to

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be careful, because if you disable at a young age, a child's internal

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ability to see, you know, good and bad, right to see that the choice

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that they made, or the action that they did, has consequences that

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are negative, and to sit with that emotion, of, of remorse, right of

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guilt, of feeling bad for what they did, if you disable that,

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then you can create the opposite, or

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you can create something that's quite negative, right, which is

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someone who is diluted, who doesn't see their own, you know,

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the harm that they inflict on others, who was told maybe by, you

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know, it's, it's, it's kind of like mis applied compassion,

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right? Because a parent or an adult who thinks like, No, we

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should never ever, you know, discipline a child when they do

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wrong, and you should never just, it's going to damage them. That

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that is an extreme view, that also has consequences, right? Because

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you're disabling this important human quality of being able to be

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self accountable for yourself. And that's why if you look around,

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you're seeing this very common in our culture now, right? Where

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people just don't, where they speak, where they behave totally

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in their own self interests, with a very little regard for what, how

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it impacts other people, right? Have we not witnessed total

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entitlement in this culture, and this is one of the things that the

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US, unfortunately is known for by a lot of people, you know, outside

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of the US, they just look at us as a bunch of entitled brats, who are

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always, you know, operating for our own self interest, because we

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were never, you know, this is the neffs. Right? And this is why from

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a spiritual perspective is important to understand that, you

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know, the weird triune, right, we have three parts to us. And if we

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don't know how to control those parts, right, and how to govern

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ourselves, then we can actually be quite dangerous, right? So you see

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people just on the road, look at traffic, how many people do you

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see on a daily that are so entitled, they will drive at

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ridiculous speeds weave in and out, right of lanes? Because they

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have somewhere to be? Right? They don't care about the consequences

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of their actions? Maybe because no one, you know, gave them this

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mechanism to say, Wait a second, you know, you can't just do

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whatever you want, right? That's not how things work. And so if we

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go with this idea that all shame is bad, right? This is

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unfortunately, the consequences that you can create these types

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of, you know, situations where people are oblivious to the harm

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that they inflict on others, or they just simply are apathetic,

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they really don't care. And that is a byproduct. It's I mean, it's

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spiritual disease, but it comes from again, this mis

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categorization of shame as being something like, again, a negative

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a pejorative something all across is bad. No, there is from from our

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spiritual perspective, human to human shaming, right?

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There's, of course, boundaries around that. And it should always

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be done in a healthy, productive, like when you're criticizing, for

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example, right? There's negative criticism that's just meant to

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tear someone down. And then there's positive criticism that is

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important for the for that individual to hear in order to be

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better, right? So the parent or the adults role when they're, you

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know, using these, you know, certain terms or phrases or

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however they're using choosing to discipline a child in a situation.

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The intention should not obviously be personal, right? The the neffs

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of that adult shouldn't be a factor. It's not about my feelings

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in this moment. It's about what is in the best interest of the child,

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right? So when you have that positive intention, and then

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obviously, you have taqwa, right that's a big component.

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A factor because you're aware that God is watching and that that

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child is an Amana and you can't just destroy it with your words or

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your tone or your threats, right? Because you fear the consequence

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of God in, in possibly abusing your power, right? If you're

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having that, all that awareness, then you will be very careful with

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how you discipline that child. And even if you leave that child to

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feel a bit of internal, like I said, shame internal, not outward,

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not bad in front of anybody else, not you know, it's not about you

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and them, it's about them, recognizing that what they did was

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bad, then you're helping to cultivate a conscience, right?

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You're helping to cultivate something very important for them

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in all aspects of their life, in relationships, they're going to

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need to feel what it feels like to make a mistake and how to correct

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it. Right. And that's the other part of it, which I mean, it's

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not, I don't think it's mentioned here. But like, you know, when

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you're in that situation, when you're disciplining a child, that

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you leave them feeling the, you know, feeling that remorse for

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whatever was done. But also there's a path to fix it, to

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redress that, right? So it's not just your bad, and I'm going to

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label you like these, you know, we don't that's not our way it's to

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teach them right and wrong. But how do you fix yourself? How do

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you address this wrong, right? Because that is ultimately from,

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you know, from our, again, our from, from a spiritual

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perspective, the way all of us will learn if Allah subhanaw taala

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left us without feeling hope, right? That we could become

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better. Right? Then how many of us would feel like what's the point,

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right? But it's the fact that time and time again, he's telling us,

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right? Whether you're reading the Quran, or different stories or

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Hadith, that no matter where you are, you know, even if your sins

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reach the foam of the ocean, or reach to the sky, or the Hadith of

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the man, for example, who killed 99 people? I mean, what is why?

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Think about why first of all, was that hadith relayed right and then

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preserved for all these centuries, right? There's a reason because I

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love once it to reach those who feel that their sins are so bad

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that they've, they're just so corrupt, such a terrible

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individual is how should I thought you know, messes with us, he wears

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us down by by, you know, giving us or attributing value to us

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according to our deeds, right? And so

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I think

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Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar,

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Allah. So we left off, talking about right, the importance of not

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seeing all shame, as bad, because some shame is actually useful, in

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that it helps us to develop a conscience and we become aware of

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ourselves and the fact that our actions when they

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are out of line that they do require an appropriate response.

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Right? And that can be developed if you just gloss over everything

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someone does or says, in order to spare them that momentary feeling

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of discomfort, right? So for young children, it's important that they

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do feel that momentary, discomfort as long as you're not harming

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them, we don't harm we don't inflict harm. When we shame. It's

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a matter of teaching. It's a matter of therapy, it's a matter

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of discipline. So and then, he goes on to say here, some

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anthropologists divide cultures into shame, cultures and guilt

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cultures. According to this perspective, shame is an outward

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mechanism. And guilt is an inward one which alludes to a human

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mechanism that produces strong feelings of remorse when someone

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has done something wrong, to the point that he or she needs to

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rectify the matter. Most primitive cultures are not guilt based, but

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are shame based, which is rooted in the fear of bringing shame upon

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oneself and the larger family. Islam honors the concept of shame,

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and takes it to another level altogether, to a rank edge in one

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in which one feels a sense of shame before God. When a person

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acknowledges and realizes that God is fully aware of all that one

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does as and thinks, shame is elevated to a higher plane to the

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unseen world from which there is no cover. At this level when feels

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a sense of shame even before the angels. So while Muslims comprise

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a shame based culture, this notion transcends feeling shame before

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one's family

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whether one's elders or parents, and admits a mechanism that is not

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subject to the changing norms of human cultures. So on this point,

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some of us may come from cultures where we were taught, right, what

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will the people say? And so, and I think girls, we hear, we tend to

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hear this more, right, we're more policed sometimes in many of our

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cultures, and our boy, you know, the boys are. So if you grew up in

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a household of total double standards, right, where your

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brothers were allowed to do certain things that you weren't,

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because what you were told was people, what will people say?

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Right? Although that's, that should not be the conclusion,

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right of, of how we understand shame, it is necessary in that

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until someone develops that awareness of God. Right, that it's

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can be helpful, right, for children and for adolescents. And

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as they're developing to direct them to the social consequences of

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misbehavior. Right? Because it's kind of, again, a way of

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disciplining that, that that knifes that if if it's not given

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certain parameters, or certain,

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you know, boundaries, that it may,

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you know, harm itself and cause harm to others. So that's why

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providing that lens of looking at, you know, what will people say, is

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temporarily useful in that stage of life, right. But as we evolve,

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and as we grow in our understanding, as we develop our

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own relationship with Allah subhanaw taala, it has to move

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beyond the people, right? If you're stuck at the level of what

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will the people say the danger of that is that what happens when

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there's nobody watching? Right? And this is how shaitan can dilute

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a lot of people. And you have a lot of people who have the problem

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of duplicity, right of having wearing masks. So in certain

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spaces, they're one way, and then in other spaces are a different

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way, because maybe this point of shame.

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Around what will people say was all they were really given. And so

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that can actually grow or lead to many more problems for the

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individual, because then they are under this delusion that as long

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as nobody else knows, or as long as no one else sees, then it's

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okay. And that's, you know, these are all very, very subconscious,

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internal conversations that we're having within ourselves, because,

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and who are the operators here? Right? Who are the ones that are

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having these conversations? Well, that's where we have to go back to

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our own nature Yes.

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Yes?

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Get

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rid of absolutely know, it's so on point, because unfortunately, a

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lot of parents will get stuck on, again, disciplining the child and

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not really focusing on does the child really understand, right?

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The gravity of what they've done? Or is it just in the moment, you

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want them to feel so bad for what they did, and we personalize

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things, sometimes parents, depending, again, on our own

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experiences, our own upbringing, because a lot of times, we're just

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repeating what was done to us or it's a learned behavior. So then

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we repeat those same cycles. But if you were in a household where

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all the your parents did was have to, you know, instill immense fear

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in you, or shame you discipline, you know, give you a consequence,

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a punishment. And that was it. And there was no conversation, broader

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conversation, right? To really help the help you understand the

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consequence of that action, right, in a healthy way, then what

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happens is, like so many children do, when authority is not present,

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then the mischievous side comes out, right? And I've seen this,

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you know, as a teacher in classroom settings, right? So

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everybody's on their best behavior because the teachers in the room,

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but as soon as the teacher steps out, there's no self governance

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happening because the child was not properly taught to have this

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broader understanding, right? That it's not about just getting into

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good great favors of the adults around you and just trying to be

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you know, pretentious, because that's a that's a pretense, right

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of model behavior. Like I do everything, according to what is

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expected of me. That's if that's all it is. And it's just a show.

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It's a proof

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formance, then when the people that you're trying to impress are

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no longer there, then your real side comes out that duality is

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very, very dangerous spiritually. But a lot of people,

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unfortunately, this is how they have been raised to think, right?

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That it's all about just basically toeing the line and staying on

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good behavior as long as the people, the adults or whoever

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you're trying to impress coworkers. I mean, you can, if you

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think about how many people slack off at work, right? In

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professional spaces, you will have people when the supervisors,

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managers, or if it's that day, where like the top, you know,

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heads are coming in.

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Everybody's like, suddenly, you know, you know, on their, whatever

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devices, and they're really into their work and their desks, or

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their cubicles, or whatever, it is perfect. But when those authority

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figures aren't there, then what happens, right? That's the true

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self like what in the absence of people that you're trying to

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impress, how are you that's why a good indicator of where you are

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spiritually, is not how you are in the mess shit or at a halacha or

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unhedged or anywhere that you would think you know, is going to

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reveal your spirituality, the true self is revealed when you're

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alone. Right? When you are by yourself, and nobody is there, how

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are you behaving?

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That's why it's so important to again, understand that we're going

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back to this issue of shame, the conversation has to evolve away

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from just what are the social consequences of misbehavior? That

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is very limiting. And it actually, as I said, can contribute to other

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spiritual problems, not only the problem of duplicity of dual

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majors of having one mask for one, you know, but the other side of it

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is also another disease, which we'll get to soon. ostentation.

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Right, right? Yeah. And that's one of the diseases that we'll cover

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this is when you actually are deliberately doing certain things

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so that people are impressed by you. And it's one of the most

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common, subtle and dangerous of the diseases of the heart, it's

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like,

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it's actually considered minor shit. Because when you are doing

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things, like increasing your spiritual efforts, so that people

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are impressed by you or think that you're more knowledgeable, you

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know, you kind of, again, in certain spaces, you hold yourself

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in a certain way. But then outside of those spaces are very

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different. Those are all indications of spiritual disease,

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right, because look at the prophesy, so you will not find

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him. He was very consistent, regardless of who he was with,

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right?

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It didn't matter whether it was with his family, with his

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companions with states, heads of states, with servants, the

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province was was the same. And that's because he was more

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concerned with Allah subhanaw dadas opinion of him than trying

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to either try to impress people or avoid their judgement, which is

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what we human beings have to grapple with. Especially in

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today's world, when so much of our interactions through social media,

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right? Think about how much we are, I mean, how many of you are

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on social media, like you actually have a presence? Instagram,

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Facebook, snap? How many of you are just not like you have no

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social media presence? That's impressive. Mashallah, may Allah

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protect you, because more and more people are, because I mean, COVID

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aside, but also before COVID It's just kind of the way the world is

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going, right? It's like, in order, even in professional spaces, or

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relationships, like you're moved, if you've moved away from family

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or friends, sometimes the only way to stay in touch is through these

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different mediums. So people have to, you know, participate in it,

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even if they don't want to, but there are I know people too, who

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have held out and I'm always impressed by that, Mashallah. But

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if you're on social media, then you can see how this is a concern,

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isn't it? Like, the presentation that a lot of people have on

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social media? Have you ever felt a little uncomfortable? Maybe, like

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scrolling through someone's page or not even a person but like,

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just kind of seeing the, the way that

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like Muslim be, I should say the culture around certain.

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Like, for example, the spaces right, there's certain, like

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Muslim, Twitter has its own sort of culture versus Muslim Instagram

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versus Muslim Facebook, right? But it's kind of in similar in the

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sense that the way that people behave on these spaces seems to be

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very much focused on image, right, there's a huge concentration on

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image Tiktok all of these different spaces you'll see. Very

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polished, you know, please

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denotations like, if you have people who are influencers, right,

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even that, that whole category is, you'll see that so much of their

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focus is on putting an image forward that sells something or

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sells an idea that I have, either I'm a model parent, wife, I have a

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perfect home, like, spotless, there's nothing wrong with my

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life, you know, or I have an amazing social life, or I travel

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and see the best places, right? But there's a lot of focus on look

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at me and how fabulous my life is, and how amazing my life is, that

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can be spiritually very detrimental, because now we're

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talking about, especially if a big part of your persona is your

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spiritual, your spirituality, like, that's a very big part of

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who you are. And then you couple that, with this need for

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validation for attention, right, you can see where this is going.

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But this is why we were warned of these things, you know, so long

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ago that you have to be very careful with your intentions and

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with the way that you interact in in public. And this can be one on

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one with with, you know, individuals, like in this, you

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know, on site like here as we are, or it could be in spaces like that

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1000s And, you know, people can access whatever it is if you're

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putting yourself out in a in a public way. Be very mindful, right

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of what you're saying how you're presenting yourself. Because the

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danger is again, that you could be you know, you're you're polluting

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that intention, that purity of intention that is so essential to

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everything that we do and say, as believers. So that's the danger,

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the other side of

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of not inculcating a healthy understanding of shame, right? Of

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not incorporating this lens of looking at, well, your your,

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your every action, every word, every deed is known to Allah

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subhanaw taala how do you operate with that knowledge, right? That's

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the most important central information that should dictate

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your every action and every word that Allah is watching you at all

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times, you can never escape him. But if you don't have that

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awareness, and you're thinking more about Auntie so and so

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because she talks a lot, and I don't want her to know, or, you

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know, or uncle so and so or whoever it is in the community

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that you're worried about, then what's going to happen is again,

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Shakedowns gonna trap you into this thinking that, as long as

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they don't know, I'm good. But that's not necessarily

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the case, right? Because when we immerse ourselves in sins, it's a

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very slippery slope. But it's also very dangerous, because you have

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no idea when the veil will be removed, Allah could very well

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remove that veil, and he has, for many people. Unfortunately,

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throughout history, there's many cautionary tales of veils being

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removed from people who thought they were getting away with

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something, because nobody knew. But then Allah is the One who

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knew. And he removed the veil. And now everybody knows, right. We've

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seen it in our own time, too. Unfortunately, with some of these,

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you know, scandals and things that have happened in our own

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community, it's been unfortunate, but you have to think about that

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Subhanallah, you know, those people who were doing those things

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they thought they were they had some delusion, something that told

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them that they were gonna get away with it. And Allah decided to

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remove that for sure. I mean, hamdullah to prevent harm, that's

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a good thing. But it's still this idea that we, as human beings can

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fall into these traps is really important to understand. So that's

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why having a healthy understanding of shame, and not falling into

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what the predominant culture tells us is really important. We have

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our own standards. And I think what's happening is sometimes we

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hear things

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like in the, in the culture around us, and because it's like, it's so

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commonly and it's so pervasive, and it's so widespread, we

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sometimes may think that that's a better way, right? But in fact,

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when it comes to things that are very clear cut like this, we

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shouldn't just just because it sounds right, like it sounds right

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to say, you should never shame a child. Right? That sounds right.

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But then if you think about the spiritual consequences that we

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just laid out, then you realize, actually look at what that

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philosophy has done. Look at what that understanding is done in this

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culture, right, where you see a lot of entitlement and a lot of

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behavior that shows very little self accountability. So is it

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really wise? No, contextualize it to what does our traditions and

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our tradition says everything within limits, but in order to

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have a healthy understanding? The most important factor is Allah

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subhanaw taala. You cannot just and that's why even when I do

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parenting classes, I always try to focus on the parenting on the

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parent and myself included, slowly kind of removing withdrawing

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ourselves from the as a focal point of our children, right. So

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it's normal when you're a parent to expect the child to be

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You know, follow the lines, be obedient. Listen, because I said

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so right, again, based on the model of parenting you ascribe to,

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that may be the way that you try to get to your child, don't do it,

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or you know, we're gonna get mad Bob was gonna get my dad's gonna

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get mad or what are you, you're using basically, these these terms

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to try to get through to the child. But at a certain point, you

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have to know the wisdom of removing yourself from the

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equation good in disciplinary times, but also in positive times.

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And what I mean by that is like, even when you're happy with the

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child, not focusing too much on yourself, right? Like, Oh, I'm so

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proud of you. And you're, you know, look if you've made, or

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like, if you're giving them a gift, for example, you know, to

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kind of spotlight yourself, right, creates this understanding where

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the child just sees you, pleasing you or not wanting to displease

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you as being their ultimate objective. But if you can slowly

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with retreat, and then remind them of Allah, right,

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as you're praising them, or as you're disciplining them, you're

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going to help them to cultivate an awareness of God that when you're

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not there, it will hopefully kick in that mechanism will kick in. So

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later in their teen years, for example, when they have the first

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opportunity to, I mean, this is very real phenomenon.

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Unfortunately, nowadays, younger and younger, it's happening, but

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children who get a device for the first time, you know, if you've

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spent a lot of time, helping them to understand that Allah is with

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you at all times, he can see you and you want to really be

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protective of yourself like that our teachers have taught us like

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in their own parenting style, to tell the children like to guard

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your heart, you know, protect your heart, protect your eyes, to

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constantly infuse these ideas from a very early age of the child

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realizes. Because Allah you want to make Allah happy, he gave you

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the blessing of eyesight, he gave you the blessing of hearing. So

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reminding Allah always always infusing his remembrance in your,

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in your guidance, right? So that when that child gets the

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opportunity for the first time to see something, haram or like, you

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know, it happens, their friends are sending them things, they may

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land on a page, that's inappropriate, that maybe that

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voice that you've helped to awaken within them, right?

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stirs something in their heart, where they look away, they turn it

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off, and then they come and tell you and that's why

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when it comes to this relationship, it's so important

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like, with my own children, for example, very early on, I taught

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them, tell me the truth, it's going to be much better than you

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for you than to deceive to be deceptive. Like, if you think

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you're going to get in the worst trouble possible. I'd rather you

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tell me the full truth. And I will, you'll be rewarded for that.

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Then you lying or distorting, you know, like, you break something,

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sometimes children, they don't want to get in trouble. It's

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natural, they're scared. But if you teach them early on, to have

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open communication, right, then what happens is, when they're in

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those situations later on, hopefully, all of those things

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that you've taught them will kick in, and they'll remember, I should

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tell my mom the truth, right? So alhamdulillah like, you know, with

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with I've two boys been telling that for the very day day one and

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they to this day, Alhamdulillah Shalom Allah protected, but they,

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they will come and report to me if they do something wrong, because

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they understand that I'm not going to shame them. I'm not going to,

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you know, use weaponize that information against them and make

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them feel horrible. But actually, just as we are taught, right, when

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we make mistakes, as adults, Allah Subhan Allah tells us to come back

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to me, right? Tober that a concept of Toba is constantly reinforced,

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because he doesn't want us to feel what shaitan would want us to

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think which is I'm doomed. Right? I'm done for I'm horrible. I'm

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Allah will never look at me with love again. That's what shaytaan

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fills our minds with. But I was constantly telling us, no matter

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how many mistakes you make, keep coming back. Right? If I wanted to

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create everyone, you know, perfect, perfect worshipers that

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never made mistakes, you would have done that. But he didn't, he

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made us with the ability to make, you know, to return to Him. And so

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that these are the ideas that are that he's constantly reminding us

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of, but we can do something similar in terms of how we talk to

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one another. This creating safe spaces, right? When you create a

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safe space, for family, for children, for friends, for your

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spouse, if you're married, what you're saying is, I'd rather you

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be honest and have open communication than

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then be deceptive and think that there's, you know, no other

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recourse, because that's again, just going to things will break

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down at that point, but if you're there's honesty, and you create

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those healthy spaces that inshallah you can work through

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whatever it is, so we can do that in so many different areas with

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friendships with marriages with children, but all of it comes down

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I want to do we understand this concept well, that, first of all,

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we all make mistakes, all of us. And when a person makes a mistake,

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whatever their age, whatever the case may be, that we should show

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compassion. This is the Prophetic way. And that's why the process

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and received people of all different they're mean there's so

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many stories where he would bring people into a state of calm and

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inner peace, even though they felt that shame, right, because his

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way, he's the universal prophet of Rama, like he's teaching people to

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be compassionate. So we have to learn that. But again, this

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mechanism is really important to inculcate at an early age, in

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order to have it, you know, in in adulthood, which we all need it,

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of course. So

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Mameluke also mentions that one should have voted right, which

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literally means being lowly, abject or humbled. The Quran

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mentions that people who incur the anger of God have this state of

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humiliation thrust upon them. This humility or humbleness assumed

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before God is required for courtesy. Interestingly, the word

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Monocacy Iran is translated as dejected, though it literally

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means broken. It conveys a sense of being humbled in the majestic

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presence of God. It refers to the awesome realization that each of

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us had every moment lives and acts before the August presence of the

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Creator of the heavens and the earth, the one God besides whom

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there is no power, or might in all the universe. When we seriously

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reflect on God's perfect watch over his creation and the

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countless blessings He sends down, and then consider the kind of

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deeds we bring before him. What can we possibly feel except

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humility, and shame. These strong feelings should lead us to implore

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God to change our state make our desires consonant with his

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pleasure, giving up our designs for God's designs. This is pure

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courtesy with respect to God, a requisite for spiritual

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purification. The Prophet sallallahu sallam said, None of

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you fully believes until his desires are in accordance with

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what I have brought, being aligned and at peace with the teachings of

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the Prophet sallallahu Sallam which embody the legacy of the

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Prophetic teachings of Noah, Abraham, Moses and Jesus alayhi

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salam entails striving to free oneself of greed, and refusing the

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ethic of doing something for an ulterior motive that is

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essentially selfish and dissonant with the teachings of God's

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prophets and the home set of a person should not seek anything

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from God's servants. If one wants anything, one should seek it from

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God, the sovereign of the heavens and the earth. The basic rule is

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to ask God and then work that is one that is one should utilize the

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means as verb that one must use in order to achieve something in this

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world. Umemoto den says that one should hasten to fulfill God's

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command, and be wary of the subtle encroachment of bad manners,

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namely false that one is unaware of a hadith states one of you will

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say a word and give it no consideration. Though it will drag

00:38:15 --> 00:38:19

the person who uttered it through Hellfire for 70 years, people

00:38:19 --> 00:38:23

often become so disconnected from Prophetic teachings that they

00:38:23 --> 00:38:27

unwittingly inflict great harm upon themselves. It is comparable

00:38:27 --> 00:38:31

to a heedless person who finds himself in diplomatic circles

00:38:31 --> 00:38:35

laden with protocol, that he makes horrendous breaches of protocol

00:38:35 --> 00:38:38

without realizing it. With regard to God, the matter is obviously

00:38:38 --> 00:38:43

much more serious as one soul may be harmed by one's own breaches.

00:38:43 --> 00:38:47

In this case, the protocol involves knowledge of God and what

00:38:47 --> 00:38:50

He has enjoyed and prescribed. So

00:38:51 --> 00:38:55

this is really important. And I hope it's clear what is being said

00:38:55 --> 00:38:59

here. Again, in order for us to really embark on this journey of

00:38:59 --> 00:39:04

self purification, we have got to have a debate with God, if we want

00:39:04 --> 00:39:07

to have a debate with God, we have to understand healthy sense of

00:39:07 --> 00:39:13

internal shame, and also have the humility to see ourselves in this

00:39:13 --> 00:39:18

abject, low light, in this way of seeing, like, I'm always

00:39:18 --> 00:39:22

deficient. But yet God is so great, right? I'm always, I'm

00:39:22 --> 00:39:26

always short. I'm distracted in my prayers. I lose my temper. I'm

00:39:26 --> 00:39:30

impatient. I don't have you know, good up. I forget things all the

00:39:30 --> 00:39:36

time. I missed the mark. But God is so generous, that he continues

00:39:36 --> 00:39:40

to guide me and what this is the greatest gift. seriously think

00:39:40 --> 00:39:44

about the world right now. And how many people have no guidance,

00:39:44 --> 00:39:49

they're walking around in shells, just empty, because they weren't

00:39:49 --> 00:39:52

raised with purpose. And this is why a lot of people are struggling

00:39:52 --> 00:39:56

because they don't have purpose. If you look at the modern world,

00:39:56 --> 00:39:59

it's so sad because at least you know yes with all that

00:40:00 --> 00:40:04

Other problems in the world that existed before, you know, modern,

00:40:05 --> 00:40:09

modern times, there are always problems. But I think one of the,

00:40:09 --> 00:40:13

the things that we can appreciate about pre modern people is that

00:40:13 --> 00:40:16

they believed in God and they had a drive by that a purpose. They

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woke up feeling like, life had meaning. But when you have, you

00:40:21 --> 00:40:26

know, all of these ideas, right, these very secular ideas, these

00:40:26 --> 00:40:29

very ideas that are totally divorced from, from faith and

00:40:29 --> 00:40:33

tradition, you know, these postmodern ideas of just basically

00:40:33 --> 00:40:37

rejecting that there's, you know, objective truth that there that we

00:40:37 --> 00:40:39

don't the life has life is meaningless with a lot of

00:40:39 --> 00:40:43

cynicism, a lot of just empty, like, what's the meaning of it

00:40:43 --> 00:40:47

all? These are the kinds of ideas that a lot of our fellow human

00:40:47 --> 00:40:50

beings are raised in, because the cultures that they are raised in,

00:40:50 --> 00:40:55

have lost, you know, faith, and you find it more and more, right.

00:40:55 --> 00:40:58

Look at Europe, look at even here in the US. I mean, there's pew

00:40:58 --> 00:41:02

studies that show like, levels of religiosity have plummeted in just

00:41:02 --> 00:41:06

the past few decades. It's so sad, and that's why I remember I did a

00:41:06 --> 00:41:09

panel here at the MCC, with Rabbi and

00:41:11 --> 00:41:12

a priest, I believe,

00:41:13 --> 00:41:18

or a pastor. And we were talking about like engagement, you know,

00:41:18 --> 00:41:23

from the community. And they were both just saying that it's so hard

00:41:23 --> 00:41:26

to keep their doors open. Because the people that come to their

00:41:26 --> 00:41:30

congregations, both the rabbi and the pastor were like, in the 5060,

00:41:30 --> 00:41:34

above, like the, you know, Boomer generation, have very few young

00:41:34 --> 00:41:39

people, families are basically non existent. So their, you know,

00:41:40 --> 00:41:44

their congregants are of a, it's kind of like a dying breed. So

00:41:44 --> 00:41:48

when we were telling them, I was like, please don't have that, you

00:41:48 --> 00:41:50

know, don't give us the name. But we were telling him about how

00:41:50 --> 00:41:54

mashallah we have youth programs. And we have and this is before

00:41:54 --> 00:41:58

COVID, like we had 1000s of people coming for, you know, so that Juma

00:41:58 --> 00:42:02

media gets really packed here, you know, they were both stunned. They

00:42:02 --> 00:42:05

were shocked, like, really, like you guys had that many people were

00:42:05 --> 00:42:08

like, Yeah, we have a lot of our, you know, congregants or young

00:42:08 --> 00:42:11

families, like, you know, young couples, they couldn't believe it.

00:42:11 --> 00:42:14

Because church doors were being closed, I'm sure you've seen

00:42:14 --> 00:42:17

right, how many there, they're not they they're not in operation

00:42:17 --> 00:42:21

anymore, because people have left, you know, faith. This is a very

00:42:21 --> 00:42:24

common problem now in many different parts of the world. So

00:42:24 --> 00:42:29

what that, you know, unfortunately has done is, its created, you

00:42:29 --> 00:42:34

know, this, this world of nihilist or nihilism, or just, life has no

00:42:34 --> 00:42:38

meaning. And you raise families like that, and then imagine we're

00:42:38 --> 00:42:42

living in the world without thinking that there's more beyond

00:42:42 --> 00:42:45

this world like a dog. It's actually really tragic to me.

00:42:45 --> 00:42:48

Right? It's tragic to think that there are people out there who

00:42:48 --> 00:42:52

just think this is it, and then we die. And that's it. We just become

00:42:52 --> 00:42:56

worm food, and there's nothing more. But humbler, we have

00:42:56 --> 00:43:01

guidance. And we have, you know, we have we have a medicine that a

00:43:01 --> 00:43:07

cure. All right, a panacea that helps us to be able to cope with

00:43:07 --> 00:43:10

not just, you know, everything that's going on right now. But

00:43:10 --> 00:43:13

also loss like people, I mean, you'll see it in your own life,

00:43:13 --> 00:43:15

you're going to go through challenges as part and parcel of

00:43:15 --> 00:43:18

being in the Zinnia, you're going to lose people, you know, you're

00:43:18 --> 00:43:22

gonna go through personal challenges of your own struggles,

00:43:22 --> 00:43:25

internal financial relationship, there's gonna be things health

00:43:25 --> 00:43:31

issues that come up. But what having Dean does is it gives you a

00:43:31 --> 00:43:35

hamdulillah something, it's like, it's stabilizing, right? Because

00:43:35 --> 00:43:40

when everything seems shaken, and like turbulent, you just remember

00:43:40 --> 00:43:43

that this is temporal, it's ephemeral. And Allah is in

00:43:43 --> 00:43:47

control, and it's all going to be over. And then there's more, and

00:43:47 --> 00:43:51

that more is what I'm planning for. Right. And that solid belief

00:43:51 --> 00:43:55

is what helps us to carry through. So to have the lab being in a

00:43:55 --> 00:43:58

state of total gratitude to Allah subhanaw taala, for the blessings

00:43:58 --> 00:44:03

of guidance, for all the blessings of that we have, but realizing

00:44:03 --> 00:44:08

that even though we're short, and we're, we fail, we fail, and we

00:44:08 --> 00:44:13

falter, that he still continues to pour into us, his generosity, you

00:44:13 --> 00:44:13

know,

00:44:14 --> 00:44:18

I remember, I don't know, maybe 1015 years ago, things that, you

00:44:18 --> 00:44:21

know, when you're young, it's like until you experience certain

00:44:21 --> 00:44:23

things, it doesn't hit you. But how many of us take for example,

00:44:23 --> 00:44:26

our health for granted, you know,

00:44:27 --> 00:44:32

just if you've ever been knocked out or like had a cast or back

00:44:32 --> 00:44:36

problems, right? If you've ever experienced, like something where

00:44:36 --> 00:44:40

your mobility was affected, how much more appreciative of your

00:44:40 --> 00:44:43

mobility, were you, right? Like, when you come out of that

00:44:43 --> 00:44:45

situation, you've healed and you're like, Oh, my God, I

00:44:45 --> 00:44:50

remember I had chronic like back pain a few years ago. And there

00:44:50 --> 00:44:54

was one time where I had pulled my back and I was out for three weeks

00:44:54 --> 00:44:59

like it was such a difficult struggle. Oh my gosh, I couldn't

00:44:59 --> 00:44:59

sit

00:45:00 --> 00:45:04

The back was so bad that I was basically on my back for three

00:45:04 --> 00:45:08

weeks and imagine you still have to function. You know, I still had

00:45:08 --> 00:45:10

to, you know, like, how do you use the restroom? How do you do

00:45:10 --> 00:45:14

certain things, it was so difficult. And I honestly wasn't

00:45:14 --> 00:45:19

sure if I'd ever be able to walk or sit up again. Because the pain

00:45:19 --> 00:45:24

was so excruciating humbler Allah is so cutting, because he helped

00:45:24 --> 00:45:29

me heal from that right? When I came out of that, so Oh, my God,

00:45:30 --> 00:45:34

did I look at like, my mobility in such a different way. Because you

00:45:34 --> 00:45:37

had to have, it's one thing to kind of, Oh, my back hurts. But to

00:45:37 --> 00:45:41

not be able to even sit up was really, really very, very

00:45:41 --> 00:45:43

difficult. So you see people going through health issues. That's why

00:45:43 --> 00:45:46

that I don't know if it's a hadith or a saying, I think it might be a

00:45:46 --> 00:45:47

hadith.

00:45:48 --> 00:45:55

That health is a crown that only the the sick can see. Right? Like

00:45:55 --> 00:45:58

we're all wearing crowns when we're in good health. But the

00:45:58 --> 00:46:02

people who really appreciate that crown are those that are looking

00:46:02 --> 00:46:05

at you like, Wow, do you even know what you have. And I remember one

00:46:05 --> 00:46:09

of my very close friends, may Allah bless her, she got a

00:46:09 --> 00:46:13

terrible reaction to something and

00:46:14 --> 00:46:17

awakened, this triggered an autoimmune response that just

00:46:17 --> 00:46:20

devastated her and really caused wreaks havoc on her whole body.

00:46:21 --> 00:46:25

But she was prevented. And to this day, she can't make such that. But

00:46:25 --> 00:46:29

I remember when she told us that I just cried. And I if I think about

00:46:29 --> 00:46:32

us, I'll get emotional, because she just said, like, what I

00:46:32 --> 00:46:36

wouldn't do, you know, to make to make us such that again, and how

00:46:36 --> 00:46:40

many of us are, you know, like chickens, just rushing through the

00:46:40 --> 00:46:44

stages that because we don't realize there are people who are

00:46:44 --> 00:46:48

so like, they wish they could just do that action again, it was

00:46:48 --> 00:46:51

removed from them as well, they're withheld from it, but we have it.

00:46:51 --> 00:46:56

So this is what this abject state looks like. It's fully becoming

00:46:56 --> 00:46:59

aware of the fact that God has given us so much.

00:47:01 --> 00:47:05

And we're, we're unworthy of it. But he's so generous. And then

00:47:05 --> 00:47:08

that what that does is it makes you feel so indebted, and so in

00:47:08 --> 00:47:12

love with him, right? Because you're aware, and you're counting

00:47:12 --> 00:47:17

all the blessings he's given you, despite your deficiency. So what

00:47:17 --> 00:47:19

it does is it makes you just feel so like

00:47:21 --> 00:47:25

it connected in such a deep way that you seek out opportunities to

00:47:25 --> 00:47:30

gain his pleasure. And that's how we then move into,

00:47:31 --> 00:47:34

you know, this concept of having other with God, right? Because

00:47:34 --> 00:47:39

once you get to that point of, I feel bad when I make mistakes, and

00:47:39 --> 00:47:43

then I realize my own loneliness. Now how can I gain the pleasure of

00:47:43 --> 00:47:46

Allah, I need to have a job with Allah. So how can I do that? And

00:47:46 --> 00:47:50

that's why this analogy of, you know, not being aware of yourself,

00:47:51 --> 00:47:54

it or not having, you know, not having this realization is like

00:47:54 --> 00:48:00

someone being thrown into, like, you know, a formal environment

00:48:00 --> 00:48:03

like the analogy was given, it's comparable to a heedless person

00:48:03 --> 00:48:07

who finds himself in diplomatic circles. So if you find a person

00:48:07 --> 00:48:11

who is thrown into like, a meeting with the President and like

00:48:11 --> 00:48:15

congressmen, right, and you know, if you've watched any, like, you

00:48:15 --> 00:48:18

know, any films or anything that kind of show how aristocratic

00:48:18 --> 00:48:21

people are people in high political office behave, right,

00:48:21 --> 00:48:24

they conduct themselves a certain way, there's etiquettes, even if

00:48:24 --> 00:48:27

you have certain cultures are very specific etiquettes of how you

00:48:27 --> 00:48:31

sit, how you eat, you have to dress a certain way, right? But

00:48:31 --> 00:48:35

imagine a person who's thrown into that with no idea that there's a

00:48:35 --> 00:48:39

protocol, right? There's protocols, which are wait kind of

00:48:39 --> 00:48:42

codes of conduct, they're just kind of thrown into that

00:48:42 --> 00:48:45

environment, how are they going to walk around? Are they going to fit

00:48:45 --> 00:48:48

in? Are they going to obviously look like they don't belong there?

00:48:49 --> 00:48:52

Most of us because we don't know the with God, that's how we are.

00:48:53 --> 00:48:57

We're kind of like, you know, walking around, like, that person

00:48:57 --> 00:49:01

totally doesn't work, because we're not paying attention to or

00:49:01 --> 00:49:03

we're not asking the right questions like what are the

00:49:03 --> 00:49:07

protocols? What does God expect for me? How should I behave? And

00:49:07 --> 00:49:10

that's what purification of the heart teaches you? Right? It

00:49:10 --> 00:49:16

teaches you to take a very deep look into understanding your own

00:49:16 --> 00:49:21

weaknesses, shortcomings, and aligning them with what God

00:49:21 --> 00:49:25

expects of you and ridding yourself of those things, where

00:49:26 --> 00:49:30

where you're where you know, you're not aligned, those diseases

00:49:30 --> 00:49:30

so

00:49:32 --> 00:49:35

hamdulillah we'll stop here because there's a lot more in this

00:49:35 --> 00:49:37

section and we can continue inshallah next time, but are there

00:49:37 --> 00:49:40

any questions or anything anybody wants to share any comments?

00:49:42 --> 00:49:45

Anything? Any reflections?

00:49:50 --> 00:49:51

Yes.

00:49:52 --> 00:49:56

In my old family, for example, where they use religion to save

00:49:56 --> 00:49:58

the child, when they get older, the child going

00:50:00 --> 00:50:00

Anything can.

00:50:03 --> 00:50:05

Somebody telling you that?

00:50:11 --> 00:50:12

Oh, man,

00:50:13 --> 00:50:17

I can't tell you how many cases I've been involved in with that

00:50:17 --> 00:50:21

it's it's really hurts my heart to hear those things, but I know that

00:50:21 --> 00:50:25

they exist. And that's a form of spiritual abuse. So we should

00:50:25 --> 00:50:27

know. And if anybody's ever had that experience where it was,

00:50:27 --> 00:50:29

whether it was a parent, or an Islamic school teacher or

00:50:29 --> 00:50:34

grandparent who's ever used religion, to shame you, and been

00:50:34 --> 00:50:39

really cruel or physically harmed you as a child, that person was

00:50:39 --> 00:50:42

really out of line. And that is a form of spiritual abuse. And they

00:50:43 --> 00:50:47

certainly are not speaking on any level of authority. From the day

00:50:47 --> 00:50:51

no matter how many Quranic verses they taught you or, you know,

00:50:51 --> 00:50:54

tried to force down onto you, it's, they don't know what they're

00:50:54 --> 00:50:56

talking about. And we have to really,

00:50:57 --> 00:50:59

you know, because these are very traumatic experiences, I once had

00:51:00 --> 00:51:04

a young girl. And this was after a talk I gave very, I mean, always

00:51:04 --> 00:51:07

sits with me, because I think about where she is now. But she

00:51:07 --> 00:51:10

came up to me after a talk and she was like, I need to speak to you.

00:51:10 --> 00:51:12

And I said, Okay, so we kind of huddled a little bit, you know,

00:51:12 --> 00:51:15

away from the crowd. And I don't know, if she was speaking on her

00:51:15 --> 00:51:18

own behalf, or her friends, you know, sometimes people will come

00:51:18 --> 00:51:22

and say, I have a friend, but you don't know. But she said that one

00:51:22 --> 00:51:26

of her friends had been cutting, you know, self harming.

00:51:27 --> 00:51:31

And then, you know, as I probed further, she said that it was

00:51:31 --> 00:51:37

because her mother, from a very young age, used to abuse her. And

00:51:37 --> 00:51:41

it was, unfortunately Altavilla because of you know, her mother

00:51:41 --> 00:51:44

had very high expectations of her children, I guess, when it came to

00:51:45 --> 00:51:50

memorizing the Quran. And so whenever this little stories are

00:51:50 --> 00:51:53

just like, I mean, I was really shocked when she told me this, but

00:51:53 --> 00:51:55

she said, Yeah, ever since she was three years old, her mother

00:51:55 --> 00:51:58

basically beat her if she made mistakes with the Quran. And she

00:51:58 --> 00:52:02

would even run after her in the house with like a knife. And so

00:52:02 --> 00:52:05

I'm just standing there, like, I cannot believe that, you know,

00:52:05 --> 00:52:09

someone could do that. You're like, this is the book of Allah

00:52:09 --> 00:52:13

subhanho That is the Most Merciful of the Merciful. We start with

00:52:13 --> 00:52:17

Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim. And you're going to because of a

00:52:17 --> 00:52:20

child, a three year old, there's no accountability on a three year

00:52:20 --> 00:52:26

old to memorize the Quran. Right? But this poor girl was so worried

00:52:26 --> 00:52:29

because she said that her friend was suicidal. And I thought it was

00:52:29 --> 00:52:33

a very complicated story. And we tried to give her the help, that

00:52:33 --> 00:52:36

she needed, but I just it's always stayed with me, like, How could

00:52:36 --> 00:52:40

someone do that, but then you realize, as we mentioned, a lot of

00:52:40 --> 00:52:43

these things are learned behaviors. So the cycle of abuse

00:52:43 --> 00:52:47

and violence, usually it's it's learned, right? So somewhere, that

00:52:47 --> 00:52:50

woman and we're not, you know, excusing it because of that, it's

00:52:50 --> 00:52:55

just a fact, somewhere, maybe she was given the same discipline, you

00:52:55 --> 00:52:58

know, and if you look at, unfortunately, some of our schools

00:52:58 --> 00:53:02

back home, how many of us have heard horror stories, right of how

00:53:03 --> 00:53:06

they discipline, you know, using, you know,

00:53:07 --> 00:53:11

you know, actual physical punishment, this is totally haram,

00:53:11 --> 00:53:15

you cannot do that. You can't, you know, hurt children. So these

00:53:15 --> 00:53:19

types of things we have to be clear about, and we don't, you

00:53:19 --> 00:53:21

know, make excuses for that kind of behavior. It's totally

00:53:21 --> 00:53:25

unacceptable. Children have to be very, we have to be very delicate

00:53:25 --> 00:53:29

with how we treat them. But we also have to know that children

00:53:29 --> 00:53:33

are like, you know, their new foods, the knifes their little new

00:53:33 --> 00:53:36

foods, that kind of like, you know, how are like a

00:53:36 --> 00:53:40

nominalization, or other great scholars described? It's like a

00:53:40 --> 00:53:44

wild animal that has to be tamed. Right? So the discipline that

00:53:44 --> 00:53:48

tarbiyah is the taming process, but even that is done with

00:53:48 --> 00:53:52

compassion. It's not done with force and abuse, right, you can

00:53:52 --> 00:53:56

tame an animal. You know, when I was expecting my first son, I used

00:53:56 --> 00:53:59

to watch a lot of animal planet, I love animals. But I remember

00:53:59 --> 00:54:03

watching these trainers, whether it was with dogs or others and you

00:54:03 --> 00:54:05

would take the wildest, most, you know,

00:54:07 --> 00:54:11

virile, or is that the right word? What is it when they're very

00:54:11 --> 00:54:15

feral, sorry, not feral, like animal that's wild and what have

00:54:15 --> 00:54:20

you. And you just give them the proper trainer who knows how to

00:54:20 --> 00:54:24

break the fear in that animal because, you know, a lot of times

00:54:24 --> 00:54:27

they're, they're victims of abuse, too. That's why like, you know,

00:54:27 --> 00:54:31

dogs or cats when you see them really, I kissing or barking.

00:54:31 --> 00:54:36

don't presume that that's a natural disposition. Dogs are like

00:54:36 --> 00:54:39

man's best friend. They're amazing. You know, animals are

00:54:39 --> 00:54:43

amazing. Cats as well, but when you see that sign, they were

00:54:43 --> 00:54:47

likely abused. But when you put a purse, I mean an animal like that

00:54:47 --> 00:54:52

with a trainer who understands how to reach the animal. What can

00:54:52 --> 00:54:56

happen I just saw a recent little video on an animal like that it

00:54:56 --> 00:54:59

was a it was a cat, where it was saved.

00:55:00 --> 00:55:05

situation completely destroyed by some human and made to be very,

00:55:05 --> 00:55:11

very skittish and just not very, you know, like approachable but

00:55:11 --> 00:55:15

give it some time love and then you see a total transformation

00:55:15 --> 00:55:20

children are the same you have to tame that inner beast within them

00:55:20 --> 00:55:21

yes?

00:55:55 --> 00:55:55

Hi

00:56:02 --> 00:56:02

little bit

00:56:25 --> 00:56:25

sure

00:56:37 --> 00:56:39

mashallah, that's a very good question. I'll just kind of

00:56:39 --> 00:56:43

paraphrase it for those who are watching online. So the question

00:56:43 --> 00:56:49

was about how to teach our teenagers modesty intro when

00:56:49 --> 00:56:53

they're seeing other Muslims also behave in modestly without

00:56:54 --> 00:56:57

allowing them or without, you know, leading them to be

00:56:57 --> 00:57:01

judgmental. Right. So to be more mindful of themselves, but also

00:57:01 --> 00:57:04

deal with these types of, you know, inconsistencies. Right?

00:57:04 --> 00:57:07

Because it doesn't make sense. So it's a very good question. I

00:57:07 --> 00:57:09

think, you know, these conversations have to start very

00:57:09 --> 00:57:10

early sometimes.

00:57:12 --> 00:57:15

You know, we we wait, it's not that we're doing it intentionally,

00:57:15 --> 00:57:18

intentionally, but kind of like, when problems arise, then we

00:57:18 --> 00:57:21

address these bigger conversations, right. But if you,

00:57:21 --> 00:57:24

I mean, from a general sense, I would just say, for parents who

00:57:24 --> 00:57:28

are sending their kids to public schools, for example, or even

00:57:28 --> 00:57:31

Islamic schools, because some of these things, let's be real, are

00:57:31 --> 00:57:34

happening even in Islamic schools, if you're going to send your

00:57:34 --> 00:57:36

children to environments where they're going to be exposed to

00:57:36 --> 00:57:39

certain things, then the preparation for those types of

00:57:39 --> 00:57:42

things have to happen before they see it, right. It's not just oh,

00:57:42 --> 00:57:45

now that you've seen it, let's address it. So that would be a

00:57:45 --> 00:57:49

general advice, but once they've seen it, and then going back, and

00:57:49 --> 00:57:53

that's why I think, you know, having conversations around human

00:57:53 --> 00:57:58

nature, which are very like equalizing, you know, it kind of,

00:57:58 --> 00:58:04

it allows it, when we talk about, like the nature of human behavior,

00:58:04 --> 00:58:09

and how, throughout history, you will find, you know, very similar,

00:58:09 --> 00:58:11

like, history repeats itself, human beings are very predictable,

00:58:11 --> 00:58:15

right? A lot of these things are not new, it's just that they, we

00:58:15 --> 00:58:19

have different contexts, right. But, you know, it's not like, you

00:58:19 --> 00:58:24

know, being shameless or being, you know, maybe overly sexual, or

00:58:24 --> 00:58:26

whatever the case may be, is something that is a new

00:58:26 --> 00:58:29

phenomenon, it was just, they were, it was done differently,

00:58:29 --> 00:58:33

more discreetly, maybe in previous times, but the fact remains that

00:58:33 --> 00:58:37

human beings have weaknesses, right. And so when you approach

00:58:37 --> 00:58:40

these topics in a way of, you know, how did all of us want to

00:58:40 --> 00:58:43

create us that we are created with, you know, that's why like,

00:58:43 --> 00:58:49

looking at, for example, like, you know, the, the great philosophers,

00:58:49 --> 00:58:54

Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, they kind of give us a comprehensive

00:58:54 --> 00:58:57

view, right of the human being, and, of course, our own Imam Al

00:58:57 --> 00:59:00

Ghazali, and others who used and incorporated similar ideas, but

00:59:00 --> 00:59:03

like understanding the triune nature of the human being, that

00:59:03 --> 00:59:06

like, I have these conversations I'm reading currently, for

00:59:06 --> 00:59:11

example, with my boys. I'm reading from Plato, the Republic, because

00:59:11 --> 00:59:14

Socratic way of teaching is really good way of teaching children

00:59:14 --> 00:59:18

right to ask questions, to kind of get their minds thinking, and

00:59:18 --> 00:59:20

sometimes we think, like, Oh, little kids, they can't get this

00:59:20 --> 00:59:24

stuff. But that's not true. They actually can learn very well, if

00:59:24 --> 00:59:28

you kind of trigger their own internal like Inquisition, like,

00:59:28 --> 00:59:31

you know, like, think about this on a deep level. So anyway, we're

00:59:31 --> 00:59:34

talking about these ideas. And so in part of the Republic, Plato

00:59:34 --> 00:59:40

talks about, you know, the, what he defines as the, the, the, the

00:59:40 --> 00:59:44

human, and then the beast, and the pig, right, or the pig and the

00:59:44 --> 00:59:47

dog, but there's this this represents, these are the three

00:59:48 --> 00:59:52

ways that the triune nature of the human being is presented. So we

00:59:52 --> 00:59:55

have the intellect, right, the vehicle that we're taught, which

00:59:55 --> 00:59:59

is what should govern our behavior. Then we also have our

00:59:59 --> 01:00:00

app

01:00:00 --> 01:00:03

rotative soul right? Our concupiscent soul, which is where

01:00:03 --> 01:00:08

our knifes where our appetites are based appetites reside. And then

01:00:08 --> 01:00:13

we have our irascible soul, or the beast right the dog, which

01:00:13 --> 01:00:17

represents our emotions. So when you help children understand that

01:00:17 --> 01:00:21

we all every single person even I'm sorry, Mama and Baba, and

01:00:21 --> 01:00:24

grandma and grandpa, everybody, we all have these three parts of us,

01:00:25 --> 01:00:29

and how do they work? Right? appetites for example are

01:00:29 --> 01:00:33

essential we need to eat, we need to drink, we need to sleep and we

01:00:33 --> 01:00:38

procreate, right? For the purpose of, you know, maintaining our our

01:00:39 --> 01:00:43

art, it's a it's an impulse for the race, right the human race, we

01:00:43 --> 01:00:46

have to procreate in order to have children. So that's a natural

01:00:46 --> 01:00:49

desire that human beings have given us. And we can go into

01:00:49 --> 01:00:53

extremes in our appetites. So when you kind of have a conversation

01:00:53 --> 01:00:56

like this, where it's more philosophical, as opposed to,

01:00:57 --> 01:01:03

like, you know, kind of getting into specifics about students on

01:01:03 --> 01:01:07

their campus, and like, just kind of talk about it as a general

01:01:07 --> 01:01:10

like, this is all human nature, and then go into again, more

01:01:10 --> 01:01:14

descriptions like emotions, right? We have emotions for a reason,

01:01:14 --> 01:01:18

they're useful, but they can also be weaponized, like anger, anger

01:01:18 --> 01:01:21

is a very useful emotion. But if you don't know how to control

01:01:21 --> 01:01:24

anger, right, then it's kind of like having

01:01:26 --> 01:01:29

a wild dog on the loose without a leash, you need to be able to

01:01:29 --> 01:01:32

control those emotions. So that's where self regulation is

01:01:32 --> 01:01:37

important. And then how our who's who's governing if you're, if you

01:01:37 --> 01:01:40

know that you have three aspects to you, but you don't know how to

01:01:40 --> 01:01:44

govern yourself, then maybe and there are people nowadays think

01:01:44 --> 01:01:48

about it, how many people are, are, are being led by their

01:01:48 --> 01:01:52

appetites, right? How many people are being led by their emotions,

01:01:52 --> 01:01:55

we have a society that's run amok with emotions are so many

01:01:55 --> 01:01:58

emotions, everybody's triggered, everybody's angry all the time,

01:01:58 --> 01:02:02

right? How many people are angry, and you're just like, like, what

01:02:02 --> 01:02:05

it's so irrational, but they're in a heightened state of emotion,

01:02:05 --> 01:02:10

because they haven't been taught that your emotions are, are, are

01:02:10 --> 01:02:14

useful, but they're also dangerous if you if they're controlling you.

01:02:14 --> 01:02:17

Right, you shouldn't let emotions control you. You shouldn't let

01:02:17 --> 01:02:21

your appetites control you. The uncle has to, the reason has to be

01:02:21 --> 01:02:23

governing. It's like the driver, you know, who's driving the

01:02:23 --> 01:02:28

vehicle of your body. If you allow your, your base desires to drive

01:02:28 --> 01:02:32

you, like so many people, you will find yourself harming yourself. So

01:02:32 --> 01:02:36

when it comes to inappropriate behavior and modest behavior, that

01:02:36 --> 01:02:40

is, it could be both it could be both the emotions, right? And the

01:02:40 --> 01:02:44

appetites governing? And what does that do how many people have

01:02:44 --> 01:02:47

gotten themselves in really horrible situations, because they

01:02:47 --> 01:02:50

let their emotions lead or their desires lead. So you have unwanted

01:02:50 --> 01:02:55

pregnancies, you have heartache. I mean, how many young people do

01:02:55 --> 01:02:59

have we known in our life, who suffered immense heartache,

01:02:59 --> 01:03:04

because their emotions lead them down a path to have a relationship

01:03:04 --> 01:03:08

they weren't ready to have, right, that was not going to be something

01:03:08 --> 01:03:12

long lasting. And we know from with girls, especially, we attach

01:03:12 --> 01:03:15

more we get more, you know, connected. It's not just a

01:03:15 --> 01:03:20

physical thing. So when we can approach these topics from this

01:03:20 --> 01:03:24

type of lens that just speaks to human nature and the dangers of

01:03:24 --> 01:03:29

human nature. When it's not, you know, given when we don't under

01:03:29 --> 01:03:34

have these understandings clear, then the child can, you're

01:03:34 --> 01:03:37

reaching their intellect, you know what I mean. And that's, I think,

01:03:37 --> 01:03:40

a much better approach as a parent. I mean, I always try to

01:03:41 --> 01:03:43

reach my children's intellect when I'm trying to teach them

01:03:43 --> 01:03:48

something. Because if I'm speaking from emotion, and fear, and anger,

01:03:48 --> 01:03:52

and a feeling of how could you betray me, that's not going to

01:03:52 --> 01:03:56

reach them. Because remember, teens, and this is just FYI, we

01:03:56 --> 01:03:59

all ensure, remember going through this ourselves, there is a point,

01:04:00 --> 01:04:05

when adolescents, they switch their loyalty, their their loyalty

01:04:05 --> 01:04:08

goes to their peer group, right? And parents have to kind of deal

01:04:08 --> 01:04:12

with that, like, Wow, all my life, I've served you and taking care of

01:04:12 --> 01:04:15

you. And now, just because your friend says something, you know,

01:04:15 --> 01:04:19

my opinion doesn't matter. Yeah, it's natural, because why they

01:04:19 --> 01:04:23

have to start to individuate from you. And in order for them to do

01:04:23 --> 01:04:26

that, which is a natural, you know, occurrence in adolescence,

01:04:26 --> 01:04:30

they have to start to form their own ideas independent of you. So

01:04:31 --> 01:04:34

in fact, sometimes they will deliberately go against you

01:04:34 --> 01:04:39

because you're, what you're saying doesn't fit, you know, what they

01:04:39 --> 01:04:42

want to explore, or maybe what everybody else is doing peer

01:04:42 --> 01:04:46

pressure, all that stuff is real. So just to, you know, because it's

01:04:46 --> 01:04:52

a it's an impulse, they'll just go against you. Whereas if you try to

01:04:52 --> 01:04:55

approach their intellect and really speak to them about what

01:04:55 --> 01:04:58

would be the benefit of having a boyfriend like that's, that's a

01:04:58 --> 01:05:00

kind of a again, a Socratic method of

01:05:00 --> 01:05:03

inquiry? Like why would you want a boyfriend? 12 1314? What would be

01:05:03 --> 01:05:07

the benefit? Help them to come to their own conclusions? Oh, you

01:05:07 --> 01:05:10

know, it'd be nice to have someone blah, blah, blah. Okay, so what if

01:05:10 --> 01:05:13

that boyfriend wants to pressure you into doing certain things that

01:05:13 --> 01:05:16

you're not ready to do? How would you handle that situation? You

01:05:16 --> 01:05:22

know, like, think let them explore the concept that they're kind of

01:05:23 --> 01:05:27

grappling with in a way that is not just fear based, where it's

01:05:27 --> 01:05:29

like, no, no, it's wrong. Don't even think about it, shut it down,

01:05:29 --> 01:05:32

but actually help them to see that there's more harm in what they're

01:05:32 --> 01:05:35

being, you know, drawn to.

01:05:40 --> 01:05:43

Yeah, we keep Yeah, that's something that we have to be very

01:05:43 --> 01:05:47

clear about, like Allah is so forgiving. And so Rahim that if

01:05:47 --> 01:05:50

you're if that friend makes Toba inshallah they won't be punished,

01:05:50 --> 01:05:54

but not to ever make the opposite statement that says, yes,

01:05:54 --> 01:05:57

absolutely, they're going to help because you just don't know the

01:05:57 --> 01:06:00

Toba of a person who can't, you know, especially in that age where

01:06:00 --> 01:06:04

they're so fragile, and they're learning like adolescence is a

01:06:04 --> 01:06:09

very complicated time. You know, I work with teens, I know what, you

01:06:09 --> 01:06:13

know, from conversations I've had, it's just so difficult, we have to

01:06:13 --> 01:06:16

be compassionate. But when they're asking questions like that,

01:06:16 --> 01:06:19

they're literally it's a test, right? It's a test to see,

01:06:20 --> 01:06:22

basically, are you going to,

01:06:23 --> 01:06:26

you know, is there an unfortunately, if especially if

01:06:26 --> 01:06:29

they're being influenced from other groups that tell them, we're

01:06:29 --> 01:06:33

all inclusive and compassionate and love and there's nothing wrong

01:06:33 --> 01:06:37

and you know, they may be looking to see if you're going to be

01:06:37 --> 01:06:40

offering them something that doesn't quite fit that right. So

01:06:40 --> 01:06:44

you want to be very careful not to fall into those types of,

01:06:45 --> 01:06:49

you know, situations where you may inadvertently confirm something

01:06:49 --> 01:06:54

that isn't really true. Because we can't judge anybody we can we can

01:06:54 --> 01:06:57

say what's haram, and what's not permissible, we can never say that

01:06:57 --> 01:07:01

a person will be punished, because we simply don't know. So when they

01:07:01 --> 01:07:05

asked very direct questions like that, be very clear that nobody

01:07:05 --> 01:07:08

can say if someone's going to be punished, you're not? Well, we can

01:07:08 --> 01:07:12

tell you is it's displeasing to Allah. But if but Allah is also so

01:07:12 --> 01:07:16

merciful, and if a person makes a sincere Toba inshallah it can be

01:07:16 --> 01:07:20

wiped away, as if it never happened. And that's the kind of

01:07:20 --> 01:07:23

compassion that you want to, you know, reach them with, but I

01:07:23 --> 01:07:26

think, sorry, I give you a very long answer. But the reason why is

01:07:26 --> 01:07:30

because these conversations can't be just had, like, quickly and

01:07:30 --> 01:07:34

just, you know, tried to like, quickly resolve it, you have to

01:07:34 --> 01:07:39

actually approach it in this way of, I need to reach the intellect

01:07:39 --> 01:07:42

inside this teenager, because they are intellectual beings, right.

01:07:43 --> 01:07:48

And they're being sold on an idea by the popular culture that tells

01:07:48 --> 01:07:51

them, especially young girls, that your value is only good as far as

01:07:51 --> 01:07:56

how sexually attractive you are, or what you can offer in that way.

01:07:56 --> 01:07:59

So there's this hyper vigilance on, you know, being alluring and

01:07:59 --> 01:08:03

seductive and attractive. We have to break down all of those

01:08:03 --> 01:08:06

narratives for them and see, help them to see why they're so

01:08:06 --> 01:08:08

destructive. And to look like for example, I mean, one of the things

01:08:08 --> 01:08:12

I when I talk to teens, like I talk about, like who are your

01:08:12 --> 01:08:14

favorite, you know, who are some favorite famous singers? Right?

01:08:15 --> 01:08:18

And so they'll I mean, now I haven't met with them in a while,

01:08:18 --> 01:08:21

but like conversations before would, they would mention certain

01:08:21 --> 01:08:27

people like Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus, right. Demi Lovato? These

01:08:27 --> 01:08:32

are singers we all know. So then you say, what's their relationship

01:08:32 --> 01:08:36

like history? Like? If you know anything about any of these three,

01:08:36 --> 01:08:40

you know that they have a streak. They're like serial, you know, in

01:08:40 --> 01:08:43

terms of their relationship history. It's known about them.

01:08:44 --> 01:08:46

Right? But what are the majority of their songs

01:08:48 --> 01:08:53

heartbreak and love? Are those authorities that you would want to

01:08:53 --> 01:08:56

listen to when it comes to the realm of relationships, like

01:08:56 --> 01:09:00

really think about it, if a person doesn't have a good track record,

01:09:01 --> 01:09:06

in the art of love, right, and their every song is about being

01:09:06 --> 01:09:10

miserable and being heartbroken and hating on their exes? Why are

01:09:10 --> 01:09:16

we holding them up, and then aspiring to you know, looking at

01:09:16 --> 01:09:20

them like, oh my god, they're so cool. They're so it's such a like

01:09:20 --> 01:09:25

a psyops like a psychological thing that we're all being, you

01:09:25 --> 01:09:27

know, tricked into thinking. But these are the types of

01:09:27 --> 01:09:30

intellectual sort of approaches to conversations that we, if you have

01:09:30 --> 01:09:34

with teens, especially as a parent, you're going to get garner

01:09:34 --> 01:09:37

more respect from them, if you try to speak intellectually to them,

01:09:37 --> 01:09:41

as opposed to being emotional, using threatening language, being

01:09:41 --> 01:09:44

angry. Don't do that, please, because that's literally handing

01:09:44 --> 01:09:47

them to their peer group and saying, shut down conversation

01:09:47 --> 01:09:50

with mom and dad never approached him again. So creating those safe

01:09:50 --> 01:09:53

spaces is let's talk. Let's unpack this. Let's think about this. And

01:09:53 --> 01:09:56

then also there is a time as a parent, and I'm going to have to

01:09:56 --> 01:09:59

do it too. I have a 13 year old now, where we have to

01:10:00 --> 01:10:05

hand the baton off to a mentor, that we can enlist that will have

01:10:05 --> 01:10:07

be able to have these conversations, I can't tell you

01:10:07 --> 01:10:11

how many parents have come up to me and said, Oh my God, if you

01:10:11 --> 01:10:14

said this to my child, you know, they would take it. But for me,

01:10:14 --> 01:10:17

and it's true, I will literally say verbatim what their parents

01:10:17 --> 01:10:20

have said, and they'll take it from me, but not their parents. So

01:10:21 --> 01:10:25

that may be another easy approach is just to get a good mentor,

01:10:25 --> 01:10:29

who's a few years older, to have these conversations with her, so

01:10:29 --> 01:10:33

that she can see that this isn't just mom trying to clamp down and

01:10:33 --> 01:10:38

control you. This is wisdom that will benefit you. Like when I

01:10:38 --> 01:10:41

talked to teens, I talked about like, you know, or women in

01:10:41 --> 01:10:45

general, like we should know about female sexual power, like it's

01:10:45 --> 01:10:47

something that we should understand. Because when you

01:10:47 --> 01:10:52

understand that, then you realize that it's a responsibility, it's a

01:10:52 --> 01:10:55

it's a power that we've been given. And if you wield it,

01:10:55 --> 01:10:59

without awareness of that power, then you you know, you cause a lot

01:10:59 --> 01:11:02

of harm, but approaching topics like that, instead of just shaming

01:11:02 --> 01:11:04

women and saying, Why are you wearing makeup? Why are you

01:11:04 --> 01:11:07

dressed like that? doesn't go anywhere. It's just it's not a

01:11:07 --> 01:11:12

helpful way to approach those topics. So I hope that was clear.

01:11:13 --> 01:11:13

The now

01:11:15 --> 01:11:17

any other questions ladies?

01:11:35 --> 01:11:36

We are all

01:11:37 --> 01:11:38

over

01:12:02 --> 01:12:02

pretty much

01:12:07 --> 01:12:08

say that

01:12:18 --> 01:12:19

we are

01:12:22 --> 01:12:23

right

01:12:25 --> 01:12:28

now, everything you said was on point I think I would just I would

01:12:28 --> 01:12:32

say part of what we have to remember as adults is that teen

01:12:32 --> 01:12:36

culture is so different. Like for boys, for example, I'm sure if

01:12:36 --> 01:12:39

anybody has sons, you know, like, in boy culture, there's so much

01:12:39 --> 01:12:41

competition, right? They're really

01:12:42 --> 01:12:45

trying to establish like, you know, kind of a an authority,

01:12:45 --> 01:12:48

right? Like, who's going to be the alpha? Who's, who presents that

01:12:48 --> 01:12:51

way. So there is a lot of competitiveness. So that's why you

01:12:51 --> 01:12:53

see a lot of bullying and like kind of trash talking and boy

01:12:53 --> 01:12:58

culture, right? With girls, it's also about there is a sort of a

01:12:58 --> 01:13:00

sort of competitive edge, sometimes the impulse to want to

01:13:00 --> 01:13:05

judge is very strong. And they're looking to judge so when you tell

01:13:05 --> 01:13:08

them don't judge, it's kind of like, okay, because it makes them

01:13:08 --> 01:13:13

feel good, better in themselves, when they can find something, you

01:13:13 --> 01:13:17

know, to look at another person who maybe they feel threatened by

01:13:17 --> 01:13:20

maybe that maybe there's a girl who's prettier who has something

01:13:20 --> 01:13:23

to offer that I don't. But if I can find a reason to judge her,

01:13:23 --> 01:13:28

Oh, look at her. She's not modest. Right? So this is all part of

01:13:28 --> 01:13:32

again, the I mean, these are very, very spiritual realities that have

01:13:32 --> 01:13:35

to be addressed when we talk about like diseases of the heart, like,

01:13:35 --> 01:13:38

you know, that's why this, this text, I always say like this

01:13:38 --> 01:13:41

should be done so much earlier than what we're offering. Now. We

01:13:41 --> 01:13:45

approach us as adults, I think, like, seriously, Elementary is

01:13:45 --> 01:13:49

where we should start. Because if a child understands, like, envy,

01:13:49 --> 01:13:53

right, from a very young age, and you're constantly reinforcing

01:13:53 --> 01:13:58

envy, then when they're in these, this age, where envy becomes very,

01:13:58 --> 01:14:01

like prominent in their heart, because they're trying to figure

01:14:01 --> 01:14:04

themselves out, and then they see others. And it's kind of like a

01:14:04 --> 01:14:06

popularity thing. You know, like who's who's getting more

01:14:06 --> 01:14:09

attention? Who all the adults like who the boys like, right? There's

01:14:09 --> 01:14:12

too much of that pressure. But maybe if they've had this

01:14:12 --> 01:14:17

education about, you know, what, this is all signs of envy, and you

01:14:17 --> 01:14:21

have those stories or stories that we can share with them about, you

01:14:21 --> 01:14:24

know, the dangers of being envious, like all of those things

01:14:24 --> 01:14:28

can help them to navigate those, those experiences. But if we're

01:14:29 --> 01:14:32

not sharing those things, you know, are just kind of trying to

01:14:32 --> 01:14:35

approach it, like I said, from a very emotional place like, Oh, you

01:14:35 --> 01:14:39

shouldn't do this, you should do that. Well, we say, I just feel

01:14:39 --> 01:14:42

like the conversations have to be deep. And that's why when our

01:14:42 --> 01:14:45

children enter the age of adolescence, we have to make time

01:14:45 --> 01:14:49

for that. Like, don't wait for just problems to address them.

01:14:49 --> 01:14:53

Take them out, like literally take your daughters and sons on dates.

01:14:53 --> 01:14:58

Go to a restaurant, have a really like a nice drive and have really

01:14:58 --> 01:14:59

deep conversations.

01:15:00 --> 01:15:03

But then that is going to make a much more bigger impact than you

01:15:03 --> 01:15:06

just waiting for them to come to you and complain to you about a

01:15:06 --> 01:15:09

situation and then in the moment you give them a few words that is

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not as the same, right? So I feel like making those, the time to

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really have experiences with your children while you're infusing

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these teachings is going to actually get through to them and

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stick much better than just like I said, kind of giving a band aid

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solution because you know, problem arises and I just want to parent

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right now, that's the parenting hat, but we need to befriend our

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adolescents and befriending them requires spending time with them

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and having really deep conversations and appealing to

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their intellect. Really important. But thank you for that.

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I'm gonna wait yeah, okay, Michelle. All right. We have so

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sorry, gone over time, so we'll end in Sharla Bismillah R Rahman r

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Rahim Allah hacer inland Sana Santa Fe Casa de La La Nina and

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Manu. Why middle Saudi Haiti with the USA will happy with the rest

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of the Southern panicle who will be handed a shadow in La ilaha IL

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and non stop for the governor to bootleg along with so there was no

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more radical honesty than our Mo Leno. Have you been on Hamad?

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sallallahu alayhi wa sallam wow that it was actually was an

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understatement. cathedra and hamdulillah just like Moroccan and

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everyone.

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Thank you very much. Inshallah. We'll see you next week for I'm

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sorry, not next week, next month, next month inshallah last Thursday

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of every month. Alright, so now Monaco. Thank you. Thank you

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