Faith IQ – Women in Mosques/Islam and Gender Segregation – Shaykh Ammar Alshukry

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			A lot will not
		

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			honor an oma where the weak cannot secure their rights from the strong. So I was wondering, can we
present this Heidi to people who want to prevent women from being in the masjid, especially in the
main areas where the men are praying, and also classes take place, they want to join in the back
rows for the daily prayers.
		

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			Welcome to faith IQ, where we answer questions about Islam if you haven't already hit the subscribe
button and this notification button. So you can be notified whenever there's a new video. And now I
was thinking about some pertinent issues of women treatment in the masjid, or women being in spaces
where sometimes men, men feel like they own the Muslim line, women aren't supposed to be there, even
in the back, like they have issue with them having their little back corner. So the question is, can
women speak up for their marginalization in the massage that sometimes massage would have like to
cast people who are okay with it, and they understand that something that's supported in the sort of
		

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			No, the province of the lightest enemy said do not do not prevent the female slaves of a law from
the massage of the villa. And undoubtedly, in this society that we live in, right, because a lot of
people, they inherit this, the back home mentality, and a lot of massage it overseas in the Muslim
world, there's literally no place for women, women don't go to the masjid, it's not part of it. But
here masajid fulfill the role of everything. There are people were there, that's where they learned
their religion in the first place. And so if women are living in non Muslim societies, and they are
not learning their religion, what's going to happen to their religion? I've already seen it them in
		

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			their kids. And not only that, but I mean, exactly them and their kids there, as the saying goes,
and it's a true saying that women are half of the of the oma and they raise the other half. So
that's, that's 100% of the next generation is affected by women. So if you're not investing in them,
then you're not investing in the home itself. Some people say
		

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			this is a debatable topic. There's, there's evidence for this. And there's evidence for that, is
there really evidence for that position? What's the other of what they're saying that women should
not have their little back area in the main muscle area that typically the men praying where the
woman can be just praying behind them or attending lectures from behind, or sometimes even bringing
women closer to the front? So that if there's a class being there, saying that that should not
happen? Yeah, even like just the normal five daily prayers that they have the last like, literally
like the last rows at the very end. So where do they want the woman to be upstairs? And because the
		

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			room that women have a room upstairs, they should just be using that because sometimes the men, that
woman may ask a question, the men may turn around and look, I've heard this being said, or, well,
that's that, then you educate the men to not turn around and look, right.
		

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			But what I heard, even in the profits of the license, something even more extreme than that. The
province of colitis, and I'm taught the women, because they were praying in the same Masjid as the
men say, masala. And the companions. I mean, they were so bereft when it came to their clothing,
that one of them would have a single garment. And if they made sujood,
		

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			the province Eliasson, them commanded the woman to not raise their heads, until the men had all got
up from school and settled, so that they don't see anything that they should not see. Right. So
that's a lot more.
		

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			I mean, at stake at risk, yeah, it's a lot more risky than just people sending in a message and
being completely fully clothed, layered on all of that, and just looking back, so when they say that
there is an argument, or like a valid position to that other side, saying that women should not be
in that same space, and just hang out and enjoy the room we made for you guys upstairs. Do they have
truth to them saying that? How did they do it in the process? Where the behind them in? They were
behind the men who were behind the scenes? Right? So
		

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			they didn't have a separate section or anything?
		

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			Like close turkey it is, but it's nothing. It's nothing. It's nothing like being there in the flesh
interacting with the community. I mean, the argument, their argument, their argument is an argument
of fitna, right, is that it becomes a fitna and, you know, it's a fitna from both angles and
people's hearts aren't as pure as during the time of the Prophet symbolized cinnamon, there's some
truth to that. I mean, people's hearts aren't as pure as that time and
		

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			in a lot of societies, people are just pure hearted than where we happen to live at now. But
		

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			I also think that
		

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			you get
		

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			give people the option if people want to be in the most a lot, because I'll tell you one time I
attended a, a.
		

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			This is my one experience, I went with shift when he, he was giving a lecture somewhere. And it was
like five of us.
		

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			And we went to alhuda. Shout out to Hooda. In Toronto, you know who does. And who that is literally
an institution that teaches women that hold on. It's sisters only. So we went to their, like medica
as their their center and check when he was invited to go give a lecture to the sisters there. And
so they invited the chef, the chef went with one brother, and all of us, the rest of us, we were put
into a room.
		

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			This is interesting with audio only, please
		

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			put with audio only to listen to the lecture, no TV, nothing. Okay, we went and sat into the room.
And it's like five of us. And I mean, we're all like students of chivalry and everything like that,
like, you know what I mean? So we go and we sit in the room.
		

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			And it's just an audio connection. And we're just staring at each other. While this lecture is going
on,
		

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			we lasted our focus lasted for maybe five minutes.
		

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			At 10 minutes, we're like, yo, let's go to Walmart.
		

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			And we left.
		

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			It was my closest experience to what it's like being a sister in a Masjid. Right. And to be honest,
it was just it was it was subpar is not the word.
		

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			Like it wasn't second class. It wasn't a class at all. So there was no class almost dehumanizing, I
was just, it was just I like I told you after five minutes, were just like, okay, like, we've lost
all our focus? And if that's what it does to your attention, can you imagine what it could do to
your email or your connection with the faith that the leader in the community or the
		

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			and that's one of the things that I know for sure.
		

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			You know, really went to bat for four sisters. At the beginning, like it wasn't popular at all.
Yeah, for us to say, you know, what we're gonna have the university classrooms in the same room and
sisters are gonna be in the same room, and they're gonna have access, and hamdulillah. Now that's
become in those classes, how does the seating work? So
		

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			one section, or men section in front woman section
		

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			to, but know what their progression depends on the seating arrangement of the hall. So the issue is
that the women want to be able to pray downstairs or in the main muscle area of the men, or attend,
also attend classes participate, interact. So from that anecdote that I at least shared with an eye
experience with regards to being in a room and just listening to an audio, it really made me
recognize that in too many massages, our sisters experiences just incredibly subpar. And we cannot
expect them to be educated in their religion, and to be proud of them being Muslim and to be able to
educate the rest of the oma that they are raising, if we are putting them in facilities that are not
		

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			even second class, but I mean, second class would be the best way that you'd be able to describe
them. And so this is what we believe with regards to the Muslim Institute, we put our sisters in,
you know, the venues with us, and we make sure that they have equal access to the instructors. And I
believe that our massages should also when classes are happening, that they should facilitate for
our sisters, for those who wish to, there are some sisters who want their privacy, and they're happy
and that should be facilitated for them as well. If they want to have a private sitting where they
can access the lecture and be able to sit comfortably that that'd be facilitated for them. But those
		

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			who want to come out and be closer and to engage and to discuss it to go you know, be able to ask
questions to the instructor and to see them and to visually see them that they have that access and
that be facilitated for them in the massage as well. If you haven't already, hit the subscribe
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