Ahmed Deedat – Vs Jimmy Swaggart Is The Bible Gods Word
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The Bible is a source of faith and is used as a reference to the holy bus, rather than the King James version. The use of "word of God" in apologizing for actions and words is also discussed, along with the use of "word of God" in political media and religious branches. The history and significance of the Bible is also discussed, including its use as a reference to the King James version of the Bible and its use as a reference to the holy bus. The speakers touch on the holy spirit's potential for transformation and growth, including its connection to protecting against evil behavior and the responsibility of God for actions.
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Salam Alaikum
Peace be upon you
in the name of Allah.
God most gracious
brothers and sisters
and friends.
I will give you the format today.
At first
Revin Jimmy Swaggart will begin.
He will address us for 30 minutes.
And then both Ahmed deedat
will speak for 40 minutes.
And finally Revin Jimmy Swaggart would come back to the podium to address us for another 10 minutes. We thought this would be fair and just and they both have agreed.
After that time, you the audience, will have your opportunity to raise your questions to the speakers
will have one hour for questions and answers.
Again, the debate
is the Bible. The Word of God.
Let us Muslims and Christians be on our best behavior.
Nella domani blesses, I bring to you reven Jimmy Swaggart,
thank you so very, very much. I'm so very happy to be here
tonight.
And even though this debate,
or these addresses are given by our Muslim friends still
this distinguished scholar from the world of Islam, Mr. Ahmad deedat, has come to be with us in our town. And I just met Mr. De doc this afternoon, just a few minutes really, I should say this evening. And he's one of the type of gentlemen that you meet and you like instantly.
And I want all of the Christians here and of course, I know that you Muslims will join in with us. And this doesn't count on my 30 minutes.
I want us to give Mr. De Dodd a big hand of welcome of friendship to our city of Baton Rouge.
He is a scholar and
I am not a Bible scholar even though I am an avid Bible study
It
he was teasing my wife and I just before we came on and said Islam allows for wives.
He just corrected me said up to four.
I said, Well, Mr. D dot Christianity only allows us one, so I had to get the best on the first shot.
I am honored to be here tonight,
very pleased to have this opportunity
to speak a few words in respect to that which we believe to be the word of Almighty God.
I want to say something just before we get started, I have not known to very much about Islam. I do not say that with any type of pride. But I have to be honest.
In the last few months, I have studied Islam somewhat, and I will admit I've only scratched the surface.
back some,
I guess it must have been about two years ago now I made a derogatory statement over television, about the Quran.
If you were not listening that particular week, I'm never going to tell you what it was.
But I apologize for that. And I've never done it since and I will not do it again.
Because I feel that
it was not the right thing to do.
And after that, I've made a study a little bit as I mentioned a moment ago. And I've learned that
Muslims are some of the most hospitable people on the face of the earth.
And I've learned that you are extremely, totally dedicated and serious about your fate.
In other words, it's not just a sham with you, you mean business.
And as our distinguished moderator said a moment ago, the two most powerful religious influences in the world today is Christianity and Islam.
And
I want to say at the outset that every true Christian loves the Muslim people.
And I mean that with all of my heart.
I have learned to respect the Quran. I've learned to respect the Muslims. I do not believe the Quran is the word of God.
I do not believe that Mohammed was God's prophet. But I do respect your beliefs. I do respect your faith. I do respect your sincerity.
Time and time again, I have before vast television audiences I have held up
this Bible or one like it and I'm sure most of you have seen me do it.
I have done it through television to 140 countries of the world.
And I have stated this is the word of Almighty God.
I have stated that
there is no other word of God.
And we live guys sink or swim on this book. I believe that I believe that was all of my heart.
But of course saying that
really is cheap.
Those type of words do not really cost that very much.
And I want to start this off tonight by quoting a passage of scripture that Mr. De Dodd and myself disagree somewhat over.
But
which is one of if not the dearest passage in the Word of God to the world of Christian Adam, found in St. john chapter three, verse 16, For God so loved the world
that he gave his only unique son
Buju there, Mr. Lee, that
his only unique Son that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
And I want to use that as the basis for this
simple statement that I would attempt to make tonight.
I would ask us to bow our heads as we ask God's blessings upon this effort Heavenly Father.
As we come to the we ask that you would help all of us here to conduct ourselves as I know we shall by your help and your grace in the way
That you would desire that we do so
that every word may be for the glory,
that we may say only what you would desire in the way that you would desire it.
And I'll ask it all, in the holy and the precious name of Jesus. And everyone said, there are Christians, a man and a man.
There is no Christian that will say that God wrote the Bible.
God did not write the book.
To be frank with you, the only thing that I know all that God did right was the 10 commandments on stone for Moses.
That was kept the Decalogue in the Ark of the Covenant for many, many centuries.
But God never wrote the Word of God.
The Bible man wrote,
The Bible meaning a library of books, man wrote it as man was, according to Simon Peter, inspired by the Holy Spirit,
heater said, holy men of all wrote as they will move the phone, breathe the phone by God,
to write that which came from God.
God use the personalities, he used their character, he used their consecration to him,
even use their idiosyncrasies at times.
But he used men so that his great plan for this planet for all of humanity, could be placed in man simple words, so that man could comprehend it, and man could understand.
There is no book on the face of the earth
that has had the textual criticism that this book has had.
I sort of
feel insignificant when I stand here attempting to speak about the Bible, when I realized that some of the world's most eminent scholars have critically looked at every single text over and over and over again,
sparing no expense, no time, no effort to ascertain if it was what it said it was, I have read the Bible through minute, minute minute times.
And others, such as I have read it many more times, much more educated than I could ever be.
Understanding both Hebrew and Greek.
The first passages of the Bible were written
about 3500 years ago, to my knowledge, it is the oldest Book of Revelation on the face of the entire Earth.
We believe that Moses wrote what is called the Pentateuch,
those first five books, with the exception, possibly of the last few verses, and Deuteronomy.
And he could have even written that because we believe that God and I know Islam believes that God is so powerful, that he could have revealed to Moses exactly how he would die. And exactly how that his funeral would be conducted, that would have been no problem for God. But whether he wrote it or whether Joshua wrote it, it was written about 3500 years ago.
And the entirety of the Word of God is so many of you know, was written by about 40 men
over the space and period of time of about 16 to 1800 years where the last book being written roughly 100 years after the death and the
resurrection and ascension of the Lord Jesus Christ, written by the apostle john.
Now,
it has been critically looked at
more so as I mentioned, than any book on the face of the earth.
It is very interesting to note that Yusuf Ali, and his widely used English translation of the Quran twice cites Sir Frederick Kenyon
as a renowned authority.
Kenyan, formerly the principal curator of the British Museum, was one of the world's greatest authorities on textual criticism of ancient work. So we'll say that again
Kenyon
was one of the world's greatest authorities on textual criticism of ancient works.
Concerning the textual reliability of the Bible, he concluded that the Christian can take the whole Bible in his hand and say without fear or hesitation, that he holds in his hand, the true Word of God.
Concerning the Lord Jesus Christ,
Harvard Harvard professor, Simon Greenleaf, who together with Supreme Court Justice Joseph story, was credited with the rise of the Harvard Law School to its eminent position.
He abandoned his agnosticism only after months of careful study and heart searching, recognized as America's greatest authority on legal evidence.
Greenleaf found himself logically forced to conclude after lengthy and critical examination, that the literal and historical death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the Son of God and payment of our sins was established by undeniable and overwhelming evidence one of the most brilliant legal minds on the face of the earth.
In full agreement,
Professor Thomas Arnold who holds our held the chair of modern history at Oxford group,
he said, I have been used for many years to study the histories of other times, and to examine the weight and the evidence of those who have written about them. And I know of no one fact in the history of mankind, which is proved by better and fuller evidence of a resort to the understanding of a fair Inquirer, then the great sign which God has given us, that Jesus Christ died and rose again from the dead which is proclaimed in the Word of God.
No man ever said that he would die and come back from the dead as Jesus Christ did.
Now, some mention
about the many
versions of the Bible. Really, that's an incorrect statement, there is only one version of the Bible.
There are many translations.
Our scholars argue constantly over varied translations. King James Version, as we use that term, as I've mentioned incorrectly, is really a translation.
Others have been put out, they were critical of the King James,
even, to the point
of laboring incessantly to derive the Old Testament from the Hebrew in which it was written, minus a few verses in Aramaic.
And the New Testament in Greek
translation, some are incorrect, we think.
I personally like the King James.
However, the Koran has been translated as well.
And to many languages, there have been different translations of the Quran in English, and South Africa, and Mr. deedat can correct me if I'm wrong, I think it was 1978 the Quran one particular translation was released that was argued over and I think demanded that it be pulled from the market. So
the scholars of the Quran have the same problem of trying to pull one language over into another that we have in Christian, it's not easy.
In some languages, there is even no word for what you are trying to say.
So it's very, very difficult to at times come up with the perfect word to fit what was written in the ancient Hebrew, or the ancient Greek coin a Greek
there are some 24,000 manuscripts of the Word of God of the New Testament alone, I should say, that dates back before 350 ad.
The original statement or signature or autograph of the Word of God does not exist.
As I mentioned, the first one was printed on vellum arm, our clay tablets some 3500 years ago. They perished from overuse and from being put on material that had little lasting quality, at least not that long.
But at any rate, some 20
4000 copies have been made.
And scholarship tells us
when it concerns the ancient books of antiquity if at least 10 copies are in existence, you don't have to have the original to guarantee the original.
And when one considers that there are 24,000 copies, and there are some variants in those copies, we admit.
But basically, the text is not changed.
Now, there are some books,
a number of them called the apoc fear that
has not been included in Protestant Bibles, the Catholics included in theirs for reasons of their own. And the reason we do not include those so called books in the Bible is simply because we believe they were not inspired. And when you start to study them, there are ample reasons to show why they aren't inspired. Now.
Islam tells us that they believe in the Torah and the ngl.
They will conclude they believe in the Torah and the ngl, but that this is not the Torah or the Injeel, it is a corrupted text.
And if it is a corrupted text, then our faith is vain.
If it is a corrupted text in this that I hold in my hand, is not the word of God.
Then
multiplied multiplicities of multitudinous millions of Christians have believed in vain lived in vain and that in vain.
They tell us that those original books given by God the Torah, the Old Testament, the in jail, the New Testament, were lost.
And I don't think anyone can tell us where they will last or when they will also how they will last.
I guess I would ask this question.
If
God gave those two original books, the turret and the ngl they were God's word as the Koran says they were.
And I think any studied Muslim would guarantee that, that the Quran does say
that there were books given by God Almighty, other than the Quran.
The Torah, the NGO, well, if God gave those books, could not God have preserved them.
We Christians believe that God is omnipotent.
Islam believes that God is omnipotent.
And if God is omnipotent, he could have easily preserved those books without them being lost.
More Mohammed referred to these books quite a number of times in the Quran and the other holy books that were written.
And I submit to you tonight that the Old Testament that I hold in my hand
was the same old testament the Jews had in the day and the time of Mohammed.
It has not changed.
The NGO or the New Testament that I hold in my hand is the same book that the church had in the days and the time of Mohammed.
God did preserve it.
Our faith is not in vain.
I believe tonight that I can prove that
it is not in vain.
I'm positive that all Muslims here no it but after the death of
after the death of Mohammed.
There were quite a number of versions of the Quran
that were proverbially floating around.
And
instructions were given
by Muslim doctors of religion
That
Caliph Uthman
was to standardize the text. I wonder how many Muslims know that not long after Mohammed died
because there were numerous texts of the Quran and existence. Now we're not studying the Quran tonight, but I just want to throw this in.
All of these contain a host of verite readings.
And during his reign reports were brought to him that in various parts of Syria, Armenia and Iraq, Muslims were reciting the Quran and a way different to that in which those in Arabia were reciting it.
Othman immediately called for the manuscript of the Quran, which was in the possession of hafsa. If I pronounce her name correctly, one of the wives of Mohammed and the daughter of Umar
and ordered side beat the depth and three others to make copies of the text and to correct it wherever necessary
to correct it wherever necessary.
When these were complete, we read the ultimate took drastic action regarding the other manuscripts of the Quran and existence of the month sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied and ordered that all the other Quranic materials, whether written and fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies to be burned.
If they were not contradictory I wonder why he ordered that they be burned.
The only ones that several ordered the Bible to be burned to those that hated it.
I wonder if it's ever been explained how many passages in the Quran and it is a beautiful book.
literarily, it's unequaled.
But how many stories were plagiarize from Jewish fables and folklore.
I wonder.
I want to look for a moment at the alleged contradictions or variations found in the Word of God.
And from this, I want to prove to you that this is the word
in Second Samuel 24, and four in first Chronicles 21. And one
it mentions that God provoked David. Second Samuel Satan provoked David first Chronicles, it seems like a contradiction.
Of course, anyone that studies the Word of God knows that God is said to do things, oftentimes that he only allows to be done. To be honest with you, there's evidence in the Quran that the same thing was done by God.
Want to say that again?
There is no contradiction here. God oftentimes in the Old Testament, especially,
is placed in a position
of being responsible for something when he only allows it to be done and in reality, he is responsible in effect, when you think of that.
In First Kings four and 26 it speaks of 40,000 stoles, Solomon's grandeur,
sucker Chronicles 925 4000, stalls relating the same incident and we would have to think, isn't that a contradiction it is plain, pure and simple.
It relates the same story.
There are several incidents in the Word of God stating the same identical thing in various different ways where one account will be given, and the number will be slightly changed. Another account will be given, it'll say 2000. And then Second Chronicles, the first Chronicles 3000, or whatever.
St. JOHN eight verses one through 11. It tells the story of the woman taken in adultery.
And some say that was not in the original text. It's an imposition.
It's a corruption.
However, they be saved Volk at the Jerusalem, Syria, the Nithya. Knight and the ethiopic. And the early church fathers say that it was in the early manuscripts and those manuscripts, they were manuscripts and they contain them.
There are some lettering in the Word of God. Second Kings 19 and Isaiah 37. That's identical. The chapters are identical word for word.
Wow.
If God gave it would he have repeated himself?
Why not? Jesus repeated himself at times.
And the Quran in surah 32 and five it mentions 1000 years in service 70 in four dimensions 50,000 years, a day is as 1000 years a day as as 50,000. Is that a contradiction?
Here is what I'm telling you. If this was a corrupted text,
if it was an imposter, if it was fraudulent, don't you think the frauds would have removed these alleged contradictions from the Word of God?
Have you ever stopped to think about that? They left it there. laborious Lee slaving over the text to make sure they put it exactly as the manuscript said it translated from the Hebrew and the Greek.
So what happened? What's the word of God? Why would those contradictions be there? Well, it's a little bit simple.
They didn't have Xerox copiers in those days.
They didn't have computers. They had the copy of them by hand.
And copyist sometimes made mistakes. And I think our brothers in Islam will
agree with that.
And the genealogy, and Matthew and Luke,
and Matthew, it gives Joseph's genealogy, and in Luke, it gives marriage genealogy.
In the temple in Jerusalem,
if there had been anything wrong with
I'm running out of time.
If there had been anything wrong with the genealogy of Christ,
they would have pointed it out immediately, but they did not.
This book is a book of history.
It tells the given account of 1000s of details concerning towns and people, and not one spade full of archaeological dirt has ever disproved one single word in it.
millions of tons
of dirt and ruins have been removed, and not one single single archaeological spade has ever disproved one word in it. Secondly, it's a book of prophecies, 1000s and 1000s of prophecies.
And they come through.
I want to close with this one thing. I've got about three minutes.
And I only got about 30 what I was trying to say
I've never met this man before.
This evening.
I read his little book
that he wrote.
And Mr. De Doc, I will admit, I, I was a little bit taken aback.
I expected a little more courtesy.
And I I don't mean our meeting today. I mean, the little booklet. And I was grieved inside.
Saturday night I went to our church to pray.
And I started to pray about this meeting.
And I believe the Lord spoke to my heart and you're older than I am, and I will show you the respect that your age and your scholarship most definitely and certainly deserves.
The Lord I believe spoke to my heart and said you tell this distinguished gentleman this.
There was another man
2000 years ago, Saul of Tarsus
who didn't like Christians
and I think you know the story.
Soul met Jesus
on the road to Damascus as one out of new time.
And Jesus asking
why do you kick against the goals
and I believe our Heavenly Father
me to ask you.
Why do you
and I say it with reverence and respect, kick against
the greatest prophet, the Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ.
He said, You tell, Mr. de.if, it was God that spoke to me. I love him very, very much. For I am a God of love.
And tell him if he will give his heart to me.
I will feel the loneliness and the ache and the void
within his heart, and I will give him a love for the Muslim people that he has never known before, and all of his life
and I'll close this little one third finish statement
by saying we love you
and God loves you.
And God bless you
for the ultimate data
shaytan al rajim
Bismillahi Rahmani Raheem
Nikita ba ba de him. from Morocco Luna has amin in the law, leash the Ruby feminine kalila Huawei macatawa ad him guava zebu, soda, Cola, soda cola merci
Mr. Chairman and brother.
Though I wanted to go straight into the subject,
the plea that brother Swaggart had made forces me to make a confession of faith.
And that is that we Muslims,
happen to be the of the only non Christian faith
which makes it an article of faith for its followers to believe in Jesus.
No Muslim is a Muslim, if he does not believe in Jesus.
We believe that Jesus Christ was one of the mightiest messengers of God, we believe.
We believe that he was the Messiah. We believe in his miraculous birth. With many modern day Christians reject today. We believe that he gave life to the dead by God's permission, and he healed those born blind and the lepers by God's permission, we are going to get
the only Parting of the Ways The only real difference between the Muslim and the Christian is that we say that he is not God Almighty in human form. He is not God incarnate, and he is not the Begotten Son of God.
Metaphorically, we are all the children of God, the good and the bad. And Jesus would be closer to being the son of God than any one of us. Because we will be more faithful to God than any of us can ever be. From that point of view, we would agree that he is most pre eminently the Son of God, but not as the Christian say that he is the only begotten Son, we've gotten not may not in that sense,
come into the subject.
The subject is is the Bible God's word.
And brother sweigart has given us to understand
that translations and versions are one of the same thing.
We Muslims we have a number of translations of the Quran, even into the English language, different people, Yusuf Ali, Mohammed, big tall, no body and on and on. We have English translations by different people.
And they're the translation means a difference in the choice of words.
choice of words, in translating a certain phrase from Arabic into English choice of words. versions are quite a different thing.
Look,
here, I have in my hand, this Bible
we should
Whether sweigart as well as many Protestants do not accept as the Word of God.
This is the Roman Catholic version of the Bible, the Dewey arenes version of the Bible.
This Bible has 73 books. This is an encyclopedia of 73 books, seven more than one.
Which by the saga takes oath on the King James Version. This is the King James Version, he takes it.
In his evangelists magazine, December 1985, somebody questioned brother swagger about the Bible being the Word of God, and He says, Word of God and in bracket I refer to the King James Version.
In your evangelist of December 85, the King James Version, the King James version has thrown out those seven extra books
thrown out. In other words, those seven extra books, the Christian the Protestants do not accept as the Word of God. You use certain technical terms that like apocrypha, which the masses of Christian them do not know what is this apocrypha? apocrypha means doubtful, we do not deserve to be in the book of God as such, the Protestants threw it out as a fabrication. These seven books are thrown out from here. So this version, the Christian Protestants will not accept as the Word of God.
Am I correct? This is not the word of God. So we put it aside.
I agree with you what you tell me, I accept, you say is not the word of God, I say I agree with you and put it aside.
Now you tell me that this is the word of God, the King James Version,
with the 66 books.
This was first published in 1600 11. By order of His Majesty, King James, whose name is still based today, Authorized Version authorized by who? Not God Almighty, by King James, you authorized it, not God Almighty.
Now, it goes back to the ancient manuscripts.
Until what is ancient is four to 600 years after Jesus is ancient.
Now we have access to the most ancient manuscripts most ancient. And this translation here of version, the our SV, the Revised Standard Version goes to the most ancient manuscripts.
They date from two to 300 years after Jesus. So closer to the source, the more authentic any document would be closer to the source. This is common sense. If Jesus in the time of Jesus if this was written, and he had signed it, autographed it, no questions asked. This is two to 300 years after this is four to 600 days after.
So the published this translation published in your own country here, as well as in Britain, Canada, all these countries, simul taneous Lee produce this Bible.
And we are told some blowing tributes are being paid to this translation.
It says here, Church of England newspaper says that the finest version which has been produced in the present century, this one, the finest version, times literary supplement says, a complete a completely fresh Translation by scholars of the highest eminence,
fullest use of the resources of modern scholarship, life and works. Another publication says the well left characteristics of the Authorized Version, combined with a new accuracy of translation, new accuracy.
And the time the times of UK England says the most accurate and close rendering of the origin.
They these publishers of this Bible, the one who got it about first, in 1952,
they pay some glowing tributes
to the King James Version.
And I would be disrespectful or failing my duty if I didn't read those tributes out to you.
Why brother sweigart loves it and I myself in every petition that I will give I will be quoting from the King James Version. I love the language only that now they are doing away with certain terms and expressions. It is not suiting the Christians of the time today, like for example, the quotation, my brother Swaggart ended with. We have Paul on the Damascus Road. The persecutor of the early Christians will
Damascus and this is a vision in which Jesus Christ appears to him and speaks to him in the Hebrew language.
Saul, Saul, why persecutest? Not me? Why kickers myself against the pricks. This is the exact quotation from the King James Version. Which brother saga, I don't know why he used the word gold. I have been asking Christians what is gold and nobody knows what is gold.
I said why do you change the words? If it breaks, it should be said pricks. If this is the original language of the King James Version, but now it's talking about Gold's gold. I haven't heard that word before in my life. It's a new word. It's a new terminology coming out, changing the words the translation, I'm still not taking exception to that goes.
So they say about the King James Version, the revises of the Revised Standard Version 32 scholars have the highest eminence, backed by 50 cooperating denominations.
That the King James version has with good reasonably turn being turned the nobelist Monument of English prose,
its revises,
in 1881 Express admiration for its simplicity, its dignity, the music, its power is happy tones of expression, the music of its cadences, and the felicities of its rhythm. It entered as no other book has into the making of the personal character, and the public institutions of the English speaking peoples said we owe to it we owe to it an incalculable debt. The English speaking peoples, the Americans, the Canadians, the British, and people like me, who have adopted English as our mother tongue.
I speak English better than any other language is not as good as sweigart. But in this happens to be my mother tongue, because I dream in English and I swear in English, that makes it my mother tongue, according to the psychologist.
Now, this is the trivial if somebody paid such a tribute to the Quran, I can't imagine a Muslim scholar bettering it.
Now, prepare for the shock.
as they prepare for the shot from these 32 scholars of the highest elements, backed by 50 cooperating denominations, they say yet the King James version has grave defects
and that these defects are so many and so serious.
They are, these are not my words.
They are so consistent there are so many so serious as to call for revision in the English translation calls for revision in the revised it. And in the revision.
The kingpin of the evangelists, the preacher, the hot gospel are the bible thumper, john 316.
No Christian preacher is what the name is he can clinch the deal with john 316.
JOHN 316, For God so loved the world.
The author is King James version that he gave his only begotten son.
My brother saga changed the word gotten to unique. This is not from the King James Version, the King James Version says the gotta
I had
a video this morning this morning.
He's speaking to a group as if it was his own church group, you know, dealings and lessons on baby long as he was on that, or another one, he used the word because this morning
and eight hours time he changed it to unique
and asked me Are you ashamed of the word?
Are you ashamed of it? The Jesus is the only begotten Son, and brothers like are in one of these 30 books that I had to purchase in South Africa before coming. These are his books. More than 30 I purchased and I went through each and every one of them.
I want to know what my brother is talking about. What is it? What does he really believe in? Because generally when you speak to a Christian, he every Christian happens to be unique actually be unique.
As soon as you call him somebody said but I don't believe in that. As soon as you call him service, I don't believe in that. And every one of these 1000 million anyone I meet his unique everyone is unique. He belongs to the Church of England, but he doesn't, you know, believe in what the Church of England teaches. He believes in the Roman Catholic Church, but he doesn't really believe what the Roman Catholic Church teaches everyone
One is unique personnel. Let me see now what does he say in black and white? And in black and white, I found that he uses this john 316. And in his protection in his book, he says the cotton
tonight, he says unique. Can you see this? Is his office, the Muslims have been taking exception to this term.
In the Holy Quran, we are told
that God Almighty, He does not be good and is not because
and there is nothing like unto him well.
Then again, in very strong terms, the Quran condemns this idea that God we got a son, because begetting is an animal act, it belongs to the lower animal functions of *, and we are not to attribute such equality to God. As the Christian says in his catechism, he says, Jesus is the only begotten Son begotten not me.
And I have been asked Christians, please explain what are you really trying to emphasize? When you say be gotten not made? What are you really trying to tell me? And believe me, in 40 years, no English man with the knee has opened his mouth to me to explain to me what this word means because it happened in America. It had to be an American. He was on a visit to Durban. And he came on a guided tour of the mosque, and I happened to be a guide and discussing it came up. I said, No, what does it mean? What are you trying to tell me? What is what does it mean to say button? Not me, it means this American tells me it means sired by God.
So no, I don't see that. This is what it means. And believe me, that it means the cotton not may mean sired by God, as he said, Would you believe that God did
say that this is what it means. So the Muslim has taken strong exception to such an expression about God, that God because the sun
is according to your language, your catechism, the Roman Catholic catechism, the Anglican catechism, the Methodist catechism, the Lutheran catechism, you accept this, this statement be gotten not made to not like Adam. Adam was made by God, every doctrine donkey was made by God as a metaphor. The metaphor is the father of Jesus did not like that. He's
not May. So please explain and who explanation.
So this was something with the Muslims took exception to and the 32 scholars have the highest eminence, that by 54 operating denominations, they tweet out the disaster.
Did the Muslims threaten you that? Look, if you don't take that word out of the Bible, we will supply you oil.
did they do that? Did they tell you if you don't take this one out from the Bible?
Why did you take it out? Because it was an interpolation. It was not the word of God, the Bible you are carrying. It has this interpolation. And you said this morning, I heard the tape he said one word. Even one word. It says if it is not supposed to be there in his day, he said the whole book should be thrown away.
But he's not only one word.
According to revised, and further swagger tells me in one of his books, that if you want to know anything factual knowledge, on any subject, you go to the experts.
And he gives an example that if you want to know something about geology, you go to the geologists.
If you want to know about the Bible, where do you go to the Baba Shoemaker? No, you go to the Bible experts, the Bible scholars and they are telling you that this is a fabrication.
Then the Trinity, Father, Son and Holy Ghost
brother swagger also quotes ad verbatim from the first episode of john chapter five, verse seven, where it says four there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one.
If he gives me time, to look which book I can open it and show it to you which book adverb better this petition.
I said no, but it's not in my Bible.
Is this not the word of God?
In my Bible is not there.
Why is it not there?
Because your scholars 32 scholars of the highest eminent Bible scholars, backed by 50 cooperating denominations, they say this is another fabrication, another interpolation.
So they also threw it out without any ceremony.
So, too, and I give you the essential brother speaker course in his book ma
Chapter 16 verse 16, another place Mark chapter 16, verse 19, I say it's not in my Bible.
I've implemented this. The Jews didn't print it. The Hindus didn't print it, you Christians, you produced this book, and you're telling me that this is the most up to date Bible with the most ancient manuscripts.
So I look up for March of the 16, as it ends at verse 890 20, is missing.
Did I take it out?
The Muslims to get out? No
32 scholars have the highest eminence backed by 15 covering in denominations they studied fit, that this is another fabrication imposed upon Christian them. And they also three out is not in my Bible. Therefore it is not the word of God. If this is the word of God, then that is not the word of God. But
I pick up another by looking at this.
I didn't take a
look at the
I see back again, it's inside.
What was thrown out the essential. There are only two places in in the Gospels. In the Gospel of Matthew, Mark, Luke and john there are only two places where essential is mentioned.
Mark chapter 16, verse 19.
Luke chapter pinafore was 51
thrown out of this bush thrown out as fabrication essentially.
And yet these Bibles, each and every one of them they tell us that Jesus went to Jerusalem he rode the donkey into Jerusalem. Matthew says, Mark says he rode the donkey into Jerusalem. Luke says he rode the donkey to Jerusalem. JOHN says he rode the donkey into Jerusalem,
called Almighty didn't miss that out his son riding the donkey into Jerusalem, when every Tom Dick and Harry was riding donkeys into Jerusalem that he didn't forget. But the ascension is not mentioned Not once.
And where is mentioned is now thrown out
by another Bible, identical Bible that's to the loop printed by the same printers. I look and it's there again. What was thrown out there put it back again.
What games are you people play
that again,
this is the 1971 push back against
the ordinary people, poor people they don't know what's going on what game is being played? Who knows. You read the preface. The learner man the preacher he reads a preface but he won't tell his congregation what is ready in the prophets. In the preface, we are told that individuals and to church denominations they stampeded them, they forced them that they should put it back.
If not, they're gonna pitch against this book to say Look, don't buy this buy the King James Version.
Don't buy this. Buy the Kings the most up to date Bible going to the most ancient ministers
Don't touch that. This is the safer one because it has everything that you want to preach. To cut the fish is easier to cut the fish with less than with this the bait, you know the fish uses like Dale Carnegie, he tells us in his book, how to how to win friends and influence people. He says I like strawberry and cream. I think most Americans do. But it's when I go fishing I put a boom will get the fish. Not that I love wombs. But this is what the fish loves. So
So now if you want to catch fish, you got to use the right bait.
Essential is now restored to the text says the process. Why not pull them so
God doesn't speak freely to those his followers as freely as he happens to speak as brother claims with him. You know, again and again you read God comes to him speaks to him and he says son, again, son.
Wish he didn't address His own Son Jesus in inverted commas. He never called him son excuse me, the third person.
He says this is my son in whom I'm well pleased. But two brothers regard is my son, my son.
No so freely. So I says Look, this is not the word of God. We say
thing. They said that the church groups and they buy the meantime while this was being discovered. They made a net profit of $15 million on this version before they could remove it 15 million.
Brother Sarah
has written some beautiful books, beautiful books,
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sexuality, alcohol, Sodom and Gomorrah. And I can't imagine myself doing any better, beautiful writings insist.
This is the dark stain on our society, American society the dark stain on American society. It has reached epidemic proportions. *.
In my country, the whites of South Africa according to statistics, 8% of all white people, they commit * 8% one in every 12 is committing *. I don't know what the percentages are. But whether swagga tells us that it has reached epidemic proportions in your mighty country America.
And he gives examples from the Holy Bible, that there are 10 cases of * in the Holy Bible.
I didn't know that.
I knew that in the first book of the Bible Genesis, there were four cases.
Brother Swaggart book enlightens me about the fifth one in the first book.
As if this is the textbook on insects to tell you what what types of insects you can commit,
in a book of God 10 cases of insects and I'm told that the type of food you eat, you eat junky foods, you become a junkie, you read junky stuff, your mind becomes junky.
This type of things you read,
program, whatever you see, whatever you read, we are getting programmed. You read about insects, insects, insects, father with his daughters son with his mother,
father in law with his daughter in law, brother with a sister. What is this 10 cases of * you need about *, * is a little wonder that it has reached epidemic proportions.
You see, Dr. Vernon Jones and an American psychologist of great repute. He carried out experiments on groups of schoolchildren, to him certain stories were being read. And he said that these stories made certain slight but permanent changes in character. Even in the narrow classroom situation. The type of stories that you read the type of stories that they read the things that they see, that is never mentality, they're gonna have
something because God, why would God Almighty go out of his way in his holy book, to reveal to you 10 cases of * coupling 10 cases.
So as my dear brothers and sisters, this is not the word of God.
The first five books are supposed to be the books of Moses, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.
These revises followers of the highest eminence they are telling us today
that
Moses didn't like the books. He didn't like the books he's not the author is the author. Genesis author, the first book of Moses in inverted commas.
Exodus, second book of Moses in inverted from us.
Leviticus, third book of Moses in inverted commas, numbers, first book of Moses in inverted commas, Deuteronomy, fifth book of Moses in inverted commas, I'm asking why the inverted commas?
Why is inverted from us? They're telling you, when a very very diplomatic psychological way that these are not our words, we don't believe so. But the common man, the lady, the preachers, the Bible, thumpers, the hard gospel, as this is what they believe
that these are the books of Moses, but Moses didn't write them. We don't believe that these are his words. So we put them in inverted commas
is not the book of Moses, there are more than 700 times in these five books. You did the expression, And the LORD said unto Moses, and Moses said unto the Lord, and the Lord said unto Moses, and Moses said unto the Lord, neither the Lord said this, nor did Moses write it.
English, this is your language.
This is written in the third person, not by God, not by Moses, if Moses wrote it, you would have said, The Lord said unto me, and I said unto the LORD, the LORD eyes of the Lord says, I said unto Moses, and Moses said unto me, this isn't the third person and
that somebody else is writing about these things. It is not the word of God. It is not even the words of Moses. With regards to the obituary, I found out from Jewish scholars
that Jewish prophets didn't write the obituaries before dying.
This is, you know, on my tombstone, you put these words epithets
Do you deal with that? In the book of Deuteronomy, it says, My brother admits that it could be the works of Joshua. But they're supposed to be the books of Moses. How does Joshua fit in?
He says, and there Moses died in the land of Moab died in the past tense, over against with fear, and no man no with a very simple gun to this day. And Moses was, he was 120 years old when he died. Of course, God can do anything.
God can do anything.
In an explanation about the contradictions in the Bible, whether Satan provoked David, or the Lord provoke David is, look, this is we attribute it to God, that though the devil did it, we said God did it.
On that basis, would we be prepared to concede that God had those 6 million Jews incinerated? Because Hitler did it? Was it because God intended it? This is what he wanted to do. So God is responsible for the massacre, or the incineration of 6 million Jews? Or even 600,000? Or even 6000? is dramatic enough? If they if Hitler did it, who is a candidate? Are you going to blame God for that? You're going to exonerate Hitler and the Nazi party? Because he said, God did it? No.
We don't think like that. If a criminal does such and such a thing, we say it is his action. He's responsible. We don't say God did it, because you enjoyed the power comes from God, but God has given you that freewill to think and, and to see right from wrong. So if you do wrong, you are responsible. You can hold God responsible. So either David was provoked by the Satan, or by the Lord and Satan and Lord are not synonymous terms in any religion. They are opposites. Satan and God Almighty are opposite things.
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very strong. Brother, swagger is very strong in his condemnation. And I with him
* anytime whether in written form, whether in pictures or on films.
It's a horrible thing. In his book, Brother sweigart, gives you his research his study. Number one, this is when you read, or you see these things, it acts like a drunk.
Like, like marijuana, or opium or heroin or alcohol, it acts like a plant, you see these things is a chemical actions takes place. And I agree with brothers by that chemical action state space, you know.
So you read about ends up with *, *, your mind is getting used to that. escalation takes place, the sensitization takes place. These are his terms. These are first time I'm learning this term. And you must then play the role of the role.
This is how the sickness, the disease overpowers man, strong in his condemnation, he's closer to my government in South Africa. Because if I take any of some of the magazines that I can buy at Kennedy Airport, or at Heathrow anywhere, if I take it into my country, I go to jail for two years.
That's how good
South Africa has it. You know, this the other side of the picture, but as far as religion goes, as far as religiosity goes, they are very, very staunch Christians.
But that country of mind, banned portions of the Bible.
There was a pamphlet in circulation with extract nine extracts from the Holy Bible.
And somebody sent it to the censorship board said, look at this.
What is this? So they made the decree that this pamphlet is banned, not knowing that these are words from the Holy Bible.
These are extra from the Holy Bible, from the book of Ezekiel, chapter 23. Is there any preacher ready to read it says the congregation? Is there any evangelist to read it to his mother, his sister, his daughter, or even to his fiancee? She's a good woman.
Ezekiel chapter 23. The horns of those two sisters are Hola Hola. The language the language, oh,
my government banned it. And they were two ministers of the church on the board when they banned it, but they didn't know they were banning extracts from the Holy Bible. My government is so staunch that they had banned lady Chatterley's lover is a novel, Lady Chatterley's lover. It had one offensive word, a four letter word one word for which they banned for 20 years, but now they're grown big. They're mature now. They have allowed it.
You know they have decency. They have
withdrawn that,
that order against the book, but nine extracts from the Holy Bible,
because God is you are rushing to the to your audience. I dare my brother, I dare him to read this pamphlet. I have it here ready. He doesn't have to even open the book. Yeah. All those wordings in red as individual, usual usual charismatic language with the usual actions. I would love to see brother swagger. I feel ashamed to pride him as a look, but the swagger, if you can read it to the audience, I'll give you $100. What is $100 to process regard.
When I'm reading this book on Roman Catholicism, that he needs $291,000 a day to keep his head above water.
I calculated 106 million a year just to keep above water. And in the event list of December 85. He's aspiring, I wish him luck is aspiring for $1 million a day. He needs it says $1 million a day. So good luck day. But now
if I said I give you 1000 1000 you know, I can't tempt him. I know. But his usual spirited way, I hope and I pray that he has the courage, the guts, which all the priests in my experience, have not had. Read it. He did your audience Ezekiel, chapter 23. If you can't,
I can tell you that it is not the word of God. The Bible is not the word of God.
Yes, as I mentioned, men may was made.
It was from my book
is the Bible God's word. I had some 10,000 sent to the city and I think available. I don't know whether they'll be given our chair I had instructed them give to everybody let them go home and look at it themselves and read for themselves and make up their own minds.
In this book, contradiction the Quran tells us of Elijah who Quran he said do not consider the Quran with K. One Academy in India Heidi la Lucia, Goofy laugh and kashira had it been from anyone other than Allah, you would have found in it many discrepancies, many contradictions. The Quran is not involved this evening. But this is what the Quran says that if this is not the word of God, you will find an animal
claiming to be from God, that book will be free from contradictions.
Like, for example, the example that brother gave I repeat that I said, Look, it says in one of the books, Solomon had 4000 stalls of horses. Another one says he had 40,000 stalls of horses. And four and 40 is only the difference of zero.
So you say, I said, you know, my cousin's the Jews, they didn't know the zero when they wrote the book, they didn't know is my Arab brothers who found it from my father's in India, and they shared it with the world zero.
The Jews didn't know they wrote this in words, for fo UI four, he refers 40 and 40 by 40, as is now who made the mistake, God or the right and they were not saved. We are told that they will not say from mistakes. Mrs. Ellen G. White.
You say she's occultist Mrs. LNG white, the prophetess of the Seventh Day Adventist movement.
In her Bible Commentary, she says she has no motive to lie. She believes in the Bible to be the inspired Word of God. And yet, she says, says the Bible we have read today is the work of many copyists, who have in most instances done the work with marvelous accuracy. In most instances, should they have done their work with marvelous accuracy. But copies have not been infallible, and God most, and God most evidently has not seen fit to preserve them altogether from error. God didn't see fit.
In other words, this is this is his business, God's business. If he wants to see fit, if he wants to do anything, he doesn't, if he doesn't go to *, that's your business. Then God didn't see fit to preserve them for making edits, in transcribing. In the following pages of a commentary. This is why this device further, I saw that God had specially guarded the Bible.
God has specially guarded the Bible. I'm asking for what
yet, when copies have been a few learned men had in some instances changed the words in the original manuscripts. They changed the words, thinking that they were making it plain, when in reality, they were mystifying that we just played
by causing it to lean to the established views, which were governed by tradition, like the Jehovah's Witnesses, they have produced a translation for the New World Translation. The Orthodox, you don't accept that. Why don't you? Because they have their own leanings, according to their own ideas, they're changing the words, same thing that the protesters did. They were people who believe in Jesus as God. So they said, Now, they change the words.
So we said this is has been going on from the very beginning, the boast about 24,000 manuscripts.
You know, new two identical,
your scholars say out of the 24,000, that you're boasting about new two identical, then how do you come to know that this is the word of God, and this is not out of the 24,000?
On the very face of it, when you open the book, The engineer and the Torah you're talking about? This is Mark, and Matthew begins. In your version, the King James Version, it says, The Gospel according to St. Matthew, the Gospel according to St. Mark the Gospel according to St. Louis, the Gospel according to St. JOHN, and asking, What is this according according according, what is this, according to why, according to I have got better Swaggers book. It says the homosexuality is caused and its cure by Jimmy Swaggart, or just Jimmy Swaggart. He doesn't say according to Jimmy Swaggart.
Why this in the book of God, according to according to according to according to you know why? Because he didn't sign his name. Luke didn't sign his name. JOHN didn't. Mark didn't sign his name. JOHN didn't sign his name. These are assumed anonymous books, and anonymous books
attributed to God.
As this is not the end, gee, you see, even in your Arabic translations of these books, Arabic translations. It says in GLA Matthew means the Gospel of Matthew enji is huge. In GLA Marcus in GLA Lucas in GLA yohanna.
The one we believe in is in JIRA Isa, the gospel of Jesus what he preached, that is what we believe in, as from God, and the Spirit.
When you look at his books,
Matthew, Mark, this is these are the Injeel, the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and john, we believe in the Gospel of Jesus, the one that he preached, and we are told by Matthew that he went to a certain place and he preached the gospel marches even to a certain other place and he preached the gospel. Luke says he went to a certain place and he preached the gospel, john says, he went to another place and he preached the gospel as a Did you have a book under his arm?
Did you have a book under his arm? No.
preached was from God. That is what we believe in. If you can produce a document called Angel Isa, the gospel of Jesus, we would be very happy to give it a recognition to find out and verify whether it is from God and accept it as such. But what you have is Matthew, Mark, Luke, john, and Jamie Phillips, a pre bindery of the Chichester Cathedral in England, a patron of the Anglican Church.
When writing about Matthew, in his preface, he says, early tradition, ascribed this gospel to the apostle Matthew, only tradition. That's what people said. But scholars nowadays almost all reject this view with scholars, Jewish scholars, Hindu scholars, Muslim scholars, no Christian scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 cooperating denomination, they say that Metro didn't right metric, they say, is the author whom we may still conveniently call Matthew conveniently, by conveniently because instead of me telling you the first book of the New Testament, chapter nine, verse nine, the first book of the New Testament, chapter five, verse 17, and wasting your time in
mind, Stu, says no, I said, Matthew nine, nine, Matthew 517 point million, and using the term Matthew is the author, when we may still conveniently called Matthew as plainly thrown in the mysterious cube, again, in inverted commas. That stands for the German word quella sources, which might have been a collection of oral traditions. He has used Mark's gospel freely in the language of the school teacher, he was popping wholesale from Mark,
matching an eyewitness and your witness to the happenings with Jesus, one of his disciples, his apostles, he goes and publish a 10 year old boy who wasn't there. Does it make sense to you?
A man with an eyewitness and to witness a companion of Jesus. He goes and copies a 10 year old boy who wasn't there.
Does it make sense for you
and us
This is the word of God, the genealogy between Matthew and Luke, we are given 66 fathers and grandfathers to Jesus in a genealogy of 66 fathers and grandfathers. Except for one name, no two names are identical, separate less. Everyone is a different name, but the Swaggart says, one is the genealogy of Mary and one of Jesus as a way of Mary. Does the book say that? No. The book says, This is the genealogy of Jesus Christ. The other one ends with Jesus Christ, there's no Mary inside.
66 names moot who I like except one, and the father of Jesus Christ, allegedly, God Almighty, He is not there. Can you imagine God Almighty dictating the genealogy of his son in inverted commas?
And yet he leaves himself out. He's going out of his way to dictate to genealogies with 66 names, and he's not in it. He's not there. I'm asking What is he trying to tell you?
What is it really trying to tell you?
When his name is not there, a man who had no genealogy, we believe no genealogy. He was born miraculously, without any male intervention. You give him 66 fathers and grandfathers and you said this is God Almighty dictator
says we Muslims, brothers by God, we take strong exception to this type of handling of this might be missing before we say he was a mighty messenger of God. He was born miraculously, the Holy Quran testified to that. It has made it 1000 million Muslims in the world today, without any any kind of proof from the Christians to believe that Jesus Christ was born miraculously. And he was the Messiah. He was the word with God bestowed upon Mary, I will be dealing with the subject tomorrow night as Muhammad, the natural successor to Christ. And I'll be open to further questions besides the questions this evening. So with these words, Mr. Chairman, ladies and gentlemen, I'm very, very
grateful to the community here for creating such an opportunity for me to share the platform with the greatest charismatic speaker in the world today, brother Jimmy Swaggart, I think it's a privilege and honor for me.
And now for 10 minutes, Reverend Jimmy Swaggart.
I look at the Bibles that Mr. D that has and from the Quran
surah what we call chapter 62, and five, it says,
as the likeness of the * carrying books.
As the donkey is unaware of the value of the load on its back, so some men are ignorant of the spiritual treasure they hold in their hands.
What does the Bible produce?
That is the ironclad evidence, what it produces.
I was in Africa a short time ago.
And I was with a group of ministers.
And I was being introduced to them and speaking with them.
And I asked, I didn't ask him, but he was asked,
How did you become a minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ?
You see, Jesus cannot be the Messiah and a great prophet and a liar at the same time.
He is either who He said He was, or he's alive.
And he's not alive.
He said, this is the way I became a minister of the gospel.
He said, one of my closest friends was a Christian.
We argued incessantly over Islam and Christianity.
One day, the young Christian said,
there's a demon possessed man, you know, in St. JOHN, I'm sorry, St. Mark, chapter 16. In verse 17, it says, in my name, they'll cast out devils.
This is a book of power.
millions upon millions have been healed by the power of God by invoking that mighty name of Jesus.
Millions have been changed instantly from the worst bondages that a * could ever produce.
Such as he mentioned,
that the power of the word of Almighty God,
I will remind you that no dead book could produce those type of results.
You can go in our church, and over a half the people there were former alcoholics, drug addicts, every bondage, or * could muster and I know your religion of Islam believes in *. But tonight they are free by the power of Almighty God set free and the mighty name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
The gospel of Jesus Christ produces results, that breaks the bondages of sin. It fills the empty heart.
He said, we went, I went with him.
He was going to pray for this man, demon possessed. A maniac said when we arrived, he was frothing at the mouth. He
said, I've never seen anything like it.
And he said, my friend prayed for him with no visible results.
And he went to get another Minister and I was left alone with this man.
And he said, I think I will
pray for him myself.
And he said, he prayed in the name of Mohammed,
come out of him.
asking
what happened?
Nothing.
He prayed several times in the name of Mohammed come out of it.
Nothing.
And I do not mean that disrespectfully of Mohammed, he could have prayed in the name of Abraham or Moses.
And it would have done no better.
He could have prayed in the name of Paul, a Peter than it would have done no better.
So standing there alone, he says, I think I'll try.
My Christian friend has said it, I don't believe it, but I'm gonna try.
He laid hands on them, in the name of Jesus Christ, come out and
he said, Brother swagat, before my eyes, he was delivered of the power of Almighty God.
I know that you do not deny the miracles of Jesus.
But I remind you, as I close this, a dead man cannot produce miracles.
I want to say it again, a man cannot produce miracles. Jesus Christ is alive.
I've got two minutes.
He said,
Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden,
and I will give you rest.
Take my yoke upon you and learn of me for unmaking lowly in heart, and you shall find rest until your soul
one day very soon. You see, he's promised to come back.
He's coming.
Because he said he would come every single prophecy in this book that is supposed to be fulfilled, has been fulfilled.
The others that have not yet been fulfilled, will be fulfilled. There is a hunger in the heart of every person for God.
Only Jesus Christ can feel that hunger because God is love. He loves you. This book says he is He loves you in spite of the sin and the liquidity. He loves you and He wants to make himself real to you. He's not distant, far away, unapproachable. But through Jesus Christ. You can approach him and loving and worship Him and He will love you because his book says that he does
Let us acknowledge both these fine gentlemen, let us acknowledge both of them.
Ladies and gentlemen, now is your opportunity. We should be passing out the sheets of papers, any question that you have, please address it to either on the revenue, Jimmy Swaggart or brother Ahmed deedat.
Does the glorious plan
exists in its original and pure form?
And were the originals, in fact, burn.
There is a osmani quote,
you know, and the Holocaust man, brother swaggered mentioned something about variant readings,
that aasmaan had those variant readings burned. And to give an example from his own speech, if somebody was shocking, right, taking down notes of brother sweigart speech, he mentioned a number of means he was actually mutilating them, we forgive him, because there is a man or something like that. When it was mine. He says something about Omar, he sounds most horrible.
We are not taking exception to that. Because this is you are not used to the LMA. But the person who's taking shorthand,
and you reproduce that to never be able to connect,
that you are talking about the third Caliph of Islam, or you're thinking about talking about Omar, the second Caliph of Islam hafsa, you pronounce it correctly. So in that case, if I was going through the nose for publication for the swagger speech, how would you expect me to leave it as it is, you know what the way mutilated spelling of Atlanta is not aka man, this man shouting i o th a means of Ottoman as look Ito s me and Osman wound I do that. So what happened is this, the books, the Hebrew Scripture, as well as the Arabic scripture, were written originally without the vowel points without the vowels. Hebrew without vowels, Arabic without vowels. to any native of the
language, it was quite easy to understand what was being said. But to an outsider. Without the vowels, you can't make the proper pronunciation. Like for example, in English, if it was written without vows, that the man is sleeping on the bed, the bed will be written B, D, you know, it should be bad. It's not bad. It's not bad. It's not bad is not bad. Bd stands for bit, you know, your senses of the language makes you to substitute the vowels in your mind, B, D stands short for bit. The Eric knew that and the Jew knew that about this language, but as soon as it goes to a foreign nation, the person doesn't know how to pronounce.
Like the word Allah hamdu Lillahi Rabbil alameen which means Praise be to God, the cherisher and Sustainer of the words written without vowels. How are you going to pronounce
I'll handle ill humble, all humble.
So different nations as soon as they started accepting Islam, the way they heard it, they started pronouncing it they started writing mutilating the language, like English. Some of my people, they pronounce divorce as diverse, the world divorce as diverse iron as iron. Would You Do? Our spelling between the English of the English man and the English of the American? Your spelling varies, but fortunately this sound the pronunciation is not very, but if that produce a separate difference in in the pronunciation, you say no, you have to change it. So those variant readings of the various pronunciations said, Look, this revelation was given in the dialect of the Quraysh, the family, the
tribe of Mohammed, and that pronunciation should be reserved, reserved. So every other pronunciation with different vowel points is eliminated. And that one that was done by us man is preserved in the museum in the Topkapi Museum in Istanbul, that is in Turkey.
For the swagat, this is live.
Please explain to me how in Revelation, they are supposed to be 144,000 people who are supposed to enter heaven, and all of them are Jews, from the 12 tribes, what happens to the Gentiles like us?
Is that your question?
The 144,000, as mentioned in the book of Revelation, as the brother said, has to do with the Jewish people 12,000 from each tribe has nothing to do with Gentiles. And those 12,000 are chosen from each tribe during the Great Tribulation period, because they are the ones that have accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as their personal Savior. And so they are raptured up and up into heaven has nothing to do with the salvation of the millions that have come to the Lord has nothing to do with the Gentiles. It just speaks of that. 144,000 and it also states that whosoever call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. So any Gentile that would call on the name of the Lord will be saved as
well. And trust that answers the question.
But
Jesus said, the Lord our God is One is one Lord, and you shall love the Lord your God, with all your heart, Mark 12 chapter 29 through 30 verse, Muslims agree with Christians, that there is only one God, but how do Muslims love God without a change of heart?
The change of heart, look at the Muslims. Look at that. Jesus said, by the fruits you shall know them do men get a fix from the sister of grace from the pond said every good tree will be good fruit and every evil tree will be evil fruit, here is a test
the fruits, Islam has created the biggest Society of teetotallers in the world, there are some 1000 million Muslims in the world, and almost as a whole,
they are teetotallers, they don't imbibe alcohol. Here is the fruits of
my own particular race, the most racist people on earth, you know, the Hindus of India, the the the caste Hindus in the Superman's Brahmin caste nation, and you see the same nation, the most racist nation becomes one who accepts the black and white, the rich and the poor in his brotherhood, a change
with all these claims that have been made for Christianity, Jesus Christ, transforming people's lives. You know, the the old view goes out of you and the new year comes into you, as my dear brothers and sisters, look in this mighty nation of America, according to Brother sweigart 11 million credit cards.
That's what he says 11,000,040 4 million heavy drinkers. JOHN.
And Brenda swagger says I see no difference between them is 55 million. He considers them to be drunk.
The only difference is that he is not going far enough. In Islam, we say even your Sushil printer. The Holy Quran says but before that the Prophet Muhammad said so whatever intoxicating greater quantity is forbidden even in smaller quantities, no excuse for a nipper apart.
The Holy Quran says yeah, you have less in our money. So you believe in Amalfi Maru, most certainly intoxicants while may see when generally. Brother SWAT saga in his book on gambling says 54 billion a year responding on gas
Well my siru well and Sabu unfortunatelly while Islam on idol worship vigil minimally shaitan at an abomination of Satan's handiwork, first Honey Boo Boo La La Quinta, for whom the shine such abomination that you have pasta, and wine barrels were emptied in the streets of Medina, never to be revealed. This is the fruit. This is the fruit of this teaching, with 2000 years of preaching.
You have this powers of miracle working Christ gives life He heals the sick, Muhammad, in the name of Mama.
As my brothers, you don't read the scriptures, Jesus Christ, he said, Foundation has many false Christs and false prophets, who will show you great signs and wonders if it were possible to deceive the very elect. If false, Christ can do that.
Because Christ can perform miracles, if false prophets can perform miracles, then So is this a test
of your faith?
When Jesus Christ tells those who are doing this miraculous work, he's telling you in the Gospel of St. Matthew, that on that day, on the last day, on the day of judgment, he says, Many will come to me on that day, say, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesied in the name? And in thy name cast out devils? And in thy name, do many mighty works? In your name? In the name of Jesus? Didn't you do all these things? That they said yes, he said, then I will profess unto them, I never knew you depart from me he that work iniquity.
You he wanted to choose the path for me sector away, I don't know you, he will tell the Hindus Get away from me or the he stayed away from me, he will tell you, I want to know why. Why would he tell you? I don't even know you get out.
This is Look, this is john the baptist. According to Jesus, one of the mightiest messengers of God. Jesus is among those one of women that has not risen from the Baptist. And yet people from New miracles did a show what did you do? What miracles no miracle is not a
miracle is that without any miracles, you transform nations nations or transform 1000 million people. They don't invite alcohol because of the dictates of the hammer.
Mr. swagger, what will happen to Muslims who believe in Jesus, but to not receive Him as Lord as the Son of God, when they die?
The Bible tells us that there is none other salvation under heaven,
other than by the Lord Jesus Christ,
believing in Jesus, that is a miracle worker, that is a prophet, that he's a great teacher is not enough. You have to accept what he did it calvus cross for your soul to be saved. Man labor's under a terrible bondage of sin as a result of the fall.
Sin is not just an act that you commit.
It's not even a force. It's a nature.
You cannot control that nature by cutting off a man's hand.
You have to get to his heart.
All the Muslims in the world are thrilled and happy with what they have. Why do hundreds of 1000s of them watch my telecast?
Secondly, true Christians don't drink either.
What man can must have is a change of heart. You don't deal it from the exterior. It comes from the inside. Only Jesus Christ can do that.
Not not drinking alcohol is not enough. Just not gambling is not enough. Just keeping rules is not enough. Christianity is really not a religion. It's not a series of do's and don'ts you cannot earn your salvation. He paid it at calibres cross totally and completely. We accept him.
And then the nature of sin is broken. The person does not drink because he feels his handle the cut off or his toes or his nose or whatever.
But he doesn't drink because the desire is taken away.
accept Jesus Christ as your personal Savior. And the gospel is to the whole world not to just to select you, For God so loved the world. And incidentally, the word forgotten also means to produce, sir, God produced his son.
Does the glorious
stay, that the Holy Grail is guidance for all mankind?
No, the Holy Quran doesn't say that the angel is a guidance for mankind. Nor does the Bible say that. You see Jesus Christ when He sent out his disciples on the mission of fishing and
he instructed them
not into the Gentiles and the Samaritans, not
into the lost sheep of the house of Israel,
with the American Anglo Saxons within the Jew, House of Israel,
then he's telling a Jewish woman, a Greek woman comes to her wanting her daughter to be here. So he turns his face away. She goes on the other side, and she won't let him go. So the disciples they help her this woman is persistent, you know, like a drowning man clutching at straws Domini women do the same.
So Jesus says, are not sent back into the lost sheep of the house of his life.
So
Jesus says, Do not throw the bread of the children to the dogs.
The chain that you will meet every other human being other than the Jews, or dogs in pitch,
or according to your scripture, it says, Jesus says, Do not throw that Boolean to dogs do not throw pearls before swine, lest they turn in
the chain. So he says do not throw the bread of the children to the door. The woman in desperation, her child's life is at stake. She says, monster even the dogs have transformed the Masters paper. So you should give it a thumbs up. This is the Scripture. Unfortunately, the Scripture is not difficult. That scripture quote what Jesus said. I'd like to share what Jesus said. Jesus says, not about this supposed idea that you just believe. And he said, he said, Verily, verily I say unto you, except your righteousness exceed the righteousness of the scribes and the Pharisees. He shall by no means the kingdom of heaven. There's no heaven for you, unless you are better than the Jew. And I'm
asking how can you better than the Jew by not keeping the laws and the commandments?
Mr. swagger
Felicity, there's proof that the Bible you hold in your hand, is not God's word.
Can you prove there is no me to not just believe.
I believe I have proven beyond the shadow of a doubt tonight, that the word of God is true.
And
I don't know What more proof that anyone would need.
You can read the Bible and not believe it. But the Lord told us to believe it.
And we would receive that many, many benefits. If one does not want to bleed irrespective of the proof that proof that is shown one still will not believe.
The Lord said to one particular individual if one came back from the day
he was telling the story there on the 16th chapter of Luke.
And the rich man said,
Send someone from the dead to one my brothers. If one came from the dead, he wouldn't believe it if he doesn't believe the prophets that are already there.
So there is no proof that one can give for unbelief
because it will not believe.
That's the reason that he said and I once again quote, my favorite verse. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. And now I'll close with one more state
Sir, I am proof that this is real for he has saved my soul.
Could you go and get the reference from the glorious Cohen? stating the holy Angel has been corrupted?
And if not, can you tell us when it was corrupted? By whom? And where exactly is it changed?
Mr. Chairman,
you see, I started this top of mind with some indentation. Some recitation, I was not trying to mesmerize or hypnotize you.
I was actually uttering the words from the Quran instructing us telling us informing us that the Scripture is that the Christians are talking about the Bible is their own creation. I repeat what I said, I read and I'll give you the translation Bismillahirrahmanirrahim, in the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
For the
ad,
write the book with our own hands, there is at
least to be feminine kalila, they may benefit from it some small goal, like the $15 million net profit they made on the RSP.
15 is very small compared to eternity.
Compared to God's
goodness, his salvation is 15 billion. So we're
ready
to write
a boon and go to them.
In other words, I was proving to you all along, actually, I was giving you all a commentary on that Quranic verse without going into details, because I knew time was very at a premium
agreed to a format of an hour each. And for some mysterious reason. I was robbed of 1420 minutes. So I had to cut short everything I have so much more to do with reserving for tomorrow night. So the thing is, is now this was actually a mystery of this situation, that this book is written with their own hands, you add in and you take a
look, this is proof enough, the books that you have in your hand is a proof that the books have been changed, you have been changing them and out of the 24,000 manuscripts. I said no two are identical. That's a challenge. No two of those.
Mr. swagger?
Is there any way in Old Testament that says the Prophet Muhammad will come after Jesus? Thank you.
Most ever, religion tries to find the Bible, and somewhere in their teachings and their beliefs, and so does the Quran. It tries to say that it is mentioned in the Bible or Mohammed is mentioned in the Bible. But Mohammed is not mentioned in the Old Testament. I know you're referring to the book of Deuteronomy, but he's not mentioned that passage is referring to the Lord Jesus Christ, totally and completely. Mohammed is not mentioned anywhere from Genesis to Revelation, period.
What the Muslims have to say about the fact that people are healed in Jesus's name.
I have no hesitation in accepting this phenomenon that it can happen. But these things are happening in Hinduism. People are performing miracles in Islam, people are performing miracles. See, in the name of a false god, you can perform miracles, Jesus Christ through the woman if you remember, the woman who had a bleeding sickness issues seven years moodily, and she was Jesus was passing by she touched the hem of His garment. And she was instantly he and Jesus felt that something was being grown out of him. He looks at the woman is a woman. It is that faith that he looked at her faith, that she had the faith that Jesus by touching him
Get here is your faith. So in other words, a fake and a false god can also perform miracles Jesus So, for this arise many false prophets and false Christ, who will show you great signs and wonders if it were possible to deceive. Even the disciples of Jesus can be deceived with such miracles. So miracles is no proof at all, whether the person is genuine or not.
Mr. Jimmy Swaggart
widely in the Old Testament mentioned, that Jesus is the Son of God. If yes, read to me, please.
And Isaiah
chapter seven
verse 14, therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign. Behold, a virgin shall conceive, embarrass son and shall call his name Emmanuel. And Emmanuelle means God with us, thank you, sir.
Who would deny that a God has preserved His word, the Torah, etc.
and the holy NGO in the past, is able to preserve it always.
What I was reading the whole night is that the books have not been preserved.
The books have not been preserved, if it were, it would be worthy of recognition, as what is preserved there, the things that are there, have created all the mysteries, the type of book that
my brother
had enough more than enough time to read that
chapter of Ezekiel, I said, I dare anybody to read a piece congregation, and I tell you, I will not read it. Reason because it is not the word of God. If it was the word of God, you would not be ashamed of it. God Almighty was not ashamed to reveal the details of those two sisters, I asked you why should you be ashamed?
That's the implication. You are so holy, that you did not utter the words but God Almighty, you
know, the things he does not.
See, the scriptures have been shaped and the Torah is not the Old Testament, you are telling us that the Bible
was written by 40 different authors
40 different people, which
means the revelation that God gave to Moses, he didn't send a book down. Bratislava admits it. The only that was written by God was those tablets and those tablets, Moses destroyed them, you threw them in there.
These are the five books written on tablets of stone, you need a skyscraper sized museum to hold a stone.
Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy we add to them those tablets of stone.
No, these are these are not the books of Moses, Moses would have no reason to be little his brother prophets, that he committed * with his daughters.
That Reuben one of the sons of Jacob permitted instance with his mother,
the Judah, the father of the Jewish race, from whom we get the word Judah from Judaism that she had adopted by the roadside.
While he was on his way to Tinder, he sees this woman sitting by the wayside. And you know, he goes up to her and said, allow me to come in on Tuesday, she said, What will that give me? And he said, I'll give you a kick from the floor. So what guarantee that I will do is, I'll give you what guarantee Do you want is your signature in your business and your staff and the old man gave to her, and he prohibited with his brother in law, and we get to forest and they are put now in the genealogy of Jesus, that they are the great children of * are the great grandfather's of Jesus Christ.
Matthew chapter one, verse one, it says, and this is the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of Abraham, the son of David, and Isaac, and Jacob, and Jacob with a Judas and his brother, and Judah, we get five days and
look at the cross reference. It tells you Genesis chapter 30, and you find that there is the father in law, with his brother in law, who this is a student of *, and they are on to become the great grandfather's of Jesus Christ. I want to know, how does this come into the book of God? How does this come into the genealogy of a man who has moved
radiology.
Well, Mr. Swaggart, please address the request of Dr. deedat. To read some passages from the Bible,
as well suddenly made the passages that
did that challenge you to be in his presentation.
Mr. Li that has the
problem of answering questions and never were asked.
Ezekiel 23, the word of the Lord came again into me saying Son of Man, there were two women, the daughters of one mother and they committed whoredoms. In Egypt. They committed whoredoms in their view, there were their * pressed and there they bruise the teats of their virginity, and the names of them were a whole lot the elder and all * about her sister, and they were mine. And they bear sons and daughters. Thus were their names. sumeria is a whole lot in Jerusalem, a whole a bar, and a whole lot played the harlot when she was nine and she doted on her lovers on the Assyrians, her neighbors, which were clothed with blue captains and rulers, all of them desirable young men,
horsemen riding upon horses, that she committed whoredoms with them, with all of them that were the chosen men of Assyria, and with all whom she doted with all their idols she defiled herself, neither left Shiva whoredoms brought from Egypt fall in her you, they lay with her and they bruised the * of her virginity, and poured their whoredom upon her, Wherefore I have delivered her into the hands of her lovers into the hands of the Assyrians, and to whom she noted, these discovered her neck and neck, they took her sons and her daughters, they slew her with a sword and she became famous among women, but they had executed a judgment upon her. And when our sister a whole of our
soul, this she was more corrupt in our inordinate love than she and in her Horton's more than her sister in her borders, she built it upon the Assyrians, our neighbors, captains and rulers close most gorgeously horsemen riding up on horses, all of them desirable young men. Then I saw that she was to file that they took both one way and that she increased her hoard them so when she saw men portrayed up on the wall, the images of the Chaldeans portrayed with vermillion girded with girdles upon their lawns exceeding and bad attire upon their heads, all of them princes to look to after the manner of the Babylonians have child via the land of their Nativity. Um, it's more humid to go all
the way.
Now,
verse 19, gets you multiplied or whoredoms and column to remember to the base of her youth when she had played the heart of the land of Egypt, but she didn't doted upon their parents wars, whose flesh is as the flesh of assets and whose issues like the issue of horses I'm gonna keep reading. I think that's okay, wait a minute, all my $100 now
all Muslims are crucial.
Here's the $100 that man's got a pocket full of money.
He takes all that money back to South. If he takes all that money back to South Africa, he's going to worse in the US debt.
I don't know what kind of
programs you have here in Islam, but I'm gonna give his $100 to whatever you have here to help pay for this auditorium tonight.
Mr. D day
you made a statement that Islam believes in the virgin birth of Christ. But does not
that the birth but that God does not beget mosey forgotten. Luke the first chapter, the 34th and the 35th verse explains the birth of Christ as the Holy Spirit over shout shadowing Mary and the power of the Most High pouring upon her. How do you explain this?
During his talk, that the Quran is a copy of plagiarism of stories from the Bible. Now, let me give you this example, a comparison between what is told in the scriptures and what is told in the Quran about the birth of Jesus. If I make this will,
Rahim in the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. What is our little melodica Maria moon, behold, the angel said or marry him Allah has the fatty rocky was the fact
that God Almighty has chosen the and purified the chosen the above the women of all nations. This is the honor that is given to marry the mother of Jesus in the Holy Quran that she is a woman chosen above the women of all nations. Yeah, Maria Mattila de voz de Mara, in so many worship, Lord devoutly both stated self and bound in prayer with those who bada that it can be done by the baby.
This is part of the tidings of the things and see which we reveal to the Omaha mat by installation. You will not with them when they cast lots with arrows as to which of them should be charged with the care of Mary nor Rosa with them. When they disputed the point, I will not go into the full story. But if I may, I have to do tomorrow night. But the verses continue. Why is palatal melodica Maria Mo, behold, the angel said Mary, in mala ha, you must shiraki the milk, that God Almighty gives you black tidings of a world from him. His mercy, his name will be the Messiah translated Christ.
Jesus, the son of Mary was
held in honor in this world and English are
gonna be another company of those nearer to God. But the Christian will say, sitting on the right hand of God. We said not physically, not geographically, but in stature, in spirituality in the company of those nearest to God, where you can live NASA and you speak to the people we met in in childhood and immaturity.
And you shall be of the company of the righteous. When this good news is given to me about the birth of a Holy Son, she says.
She said, Oh my god, how should I have a son when no man has
the reply?
sha
Allah
whenever he decrees a matter.
So whenever he declares a matter, he merely says, Be LED. This is the Muslim concept of the birth of Jesus from birth to a Jesus without a human father, just like to kill to create a million Jesus's without father, mother, just like
this the biblical version in comparison, I'm suggesting to Reverend dantas, the head of the Bible Society in Johannesburg, I had gone there to buy an Indonesian Bible in Johannesburg. And he called me for tea seeing this funny headgear of men in his beard that I was interested in Bibles, he called me into his office. And I explained this to him, which was something novel, something amusing to him that I was speaking from my book. So he said, Look, this and the Bible appears to me to be the same. I said, Yes, on the face of on the face of it, we are both trying to say the same thing that Jesus was created by a special miracle. But I said when you compare them closely, the difference between
the Quran and the Bible is chopping cheese. I don't know whether the Americans understand this expression chopping cheese. They didn't, because they didn't know chocolate.
Cheese is not the same thing. chalk and cheese falls apart.
The poor answers for Bob to create a nearly wizard,
the Bible says and the Holy Ghost same question how can this thing be when no man, no matter? Why not a man, meaning sexually, the Bible says and the Holy Ghost will come upon thee and the power of the Messiah will overshadow the This gives that picture with the atheist and the agnostic to beat you with how did the Holy Ghost Come on man? How did the almighty overshadow her like a man doing his wife? How know we know he doesn't mean that but the language of the to see the Quranic language is for God to create what is it and the thing comes into being the biblical language is earthly as it between the two I'm asking Reverend bankers, which version would you be prepared to give to your
daughter, the Quranic version of the birth of Jesus and the biblical version and believe me, he bowed his down his head in shame, and he said, I would prefer to give the Quranic version to my daughter
By the swagger.
What did you mean by the term? unique?
After I answer this, I propose that it's not out of order that we make this the last question. We've been here two and a half hours.
Well, I'm sorry, very good.
They're paying him by the hour. They're not paying me at all.
But I got $100
in the Greek translation, and let me change it and the original Greek, the word unique, simply meaning different than any that there had ever been. There has never been one, like the Son of God is unique. And there has never been one like Mary that produced the Son of God, as he eloquently explained just a moment ago, it just simply means there was never one before him like that. There will never be one after him like that he was unique as God's own son manifest in the flesh. And incidentally, we Christians don't believe in three gods. We don't believe that God is married and lives in an apartment in heaven and has a bunch of children. We don't believe in teach such
foolishness as that. We believe that out of love, God Almighty
control condescended to come down here on this planet, and live among men,
and to walk and talk among men, and in human form, the Incarnation to die and calvus cross as the perfect sim offering for mankind, man helpless to save himself.
And he did just that. And he told the people, you kill this body. And in three days, I will raise it up again. Once again, he was unique in that he was unique. In his in the prophecies, he was unique in his birth, he was unique in his life. He was unique in his miracles. He was unique in his ministry, he was unique in his death, he was unique and his resurrection, he was unique in his ascension. And when he comes back, he will be unique in his coming again.
Mr. de de
we have invited you, to our Christian nation, to debate the topic. Is the Bible the Word of God?
Will you now show the courage to invite Reverend swagger to debate you once again, on the same topic, in the city of Mecca? And if not, why?
See, if the question I had asked, Are you prepared to debate
in the United States in the different cities as an am prepared now offer $10,000 for each meeting in places like the Madison Square Garden in New York, when use of that kind of $10,000 per meeting for meetings in the United States? $40,000. But the questioner is asking whether I would be prepared to invite him to Mecca. Now I don't we'll make our number one. Number two, if you want to get into Mecca, you need a visa.
When I had to come to the United States, your government forced me to get a visa.
And I went through the process of acquiring that visa and I'm here you see I wanted to get go to the old Zambia in Zambia became independent. I wanted to go to Zambia at that time Smith was ruling this South Southern Rhodesia. So they gave me visa and I had to sign at the back that I do not recognize the illegitimate Smith regime before they give me a visa. I had to I wanted to go so I had to send the document that I do not recognize the illegitimate Smith regime in Southern Rhodesia. Say similarly, if I have to come to the United States, I feel I fulfill your terms and condition whatever you tell me if I'm prepared to go through with it, I get the visa without that movies I in
Canada movies. Ah, yeah, no visa for people in South Africa. You have to fulfill the conditions. Now there is a condition attached to you visiting.
And that condition is
that you declare with your lips La ilaha illAllah Muhammad Rasulullah
The meaning is, the meaning is that I believe that there is one God, not Father, Son, Holy Ghost, not Jesus, that God, I believe in the one and only God, Allah, which is his name
is the last and final messenger of God. You feel that condition. You are welcome to come to Mecca.
Mr. swagger, according to your argument, the King James version of the Holy Bible is necessary for salvation.
Can we then surmise that anyone who uses Bible or another Bible will burn in *, such as Muslims, Buddhists, Catholics, Jews, etc?
I have never said, Never believe that you have to believe in the King James Version to be saved. That's foolishness. That's silly.
And before I answer the question, if you won't let me come to Mecca, let me go on television over there.
Mr. de da mentioned the do a version of the Bible. Sir, we do believe in the do a version of the Bible translation. Let's put it that way. We do not accept those spirits books that were mentioned. But we do believe in the do a translation, we feel it's a good translation.
No one has to believe in a particular translation of the Bible to be saved. You do have to believe in the Word of God to be saved. And once again, the Word of God says there is none other name under heaven. It also tells us that we are saved by faith, not by works lest any man should boast. We're saved by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. And I don't care what that word is. If the Word of God do you have a Quran over there, sir.
Good Ah, and then I was hoping he brought one.
Okay.
Any word of God, that's in this book. If you believe it,
pertaining to salvation, you will be saved. You follow what I'm saying? If the Word of God pertaining to salvation, pertaining to being redeemed, pertaining to being saved, if it's written on the side of a wall some way
to be frank with you, it's written on our hearts. That's what the Bible tells us. You can
memorize this book and worship it and it won't save you. It has no power to save you. But the Word of God if adhered to, and that means accepting Jesus Christ as one's own personal Savior. If that is in the Quran, you can be saved
Mr. Dida?
How does the Muslim account for different versions of the Quran?
Does this make all of the versions
lies as you claim the Bible is?
I repeat, there is no such thing as different versions of the Quran.
I said there are translations, yours are versions. But as regarding the previous question, he answered, he said, Look, there are seven spurious books in the GUI version seven, which he rejects. So it's a version there are seven books out of this which he is not prepared to accept as the Word of God. Whereas every camera in the world translated as it is both word translated. And you have a choice of words, but they are not versions. This is a version This is a version chance and chance are thrown out from what is in here a different version. I hope you understand my English. You know, I don't know how, how simpler I can put it to you. That the things are very what is in here, seven
books, not in here. What is in here is not in there. What is in here is taken out from there again. Can you see is a version
Jimmy Swaggart? What is Trinity
We believe the Word of God teaches that there is one God, not to 510 1215 one god
manifests in three persons, three different personalities. We believe there is a heavenly Father.
We believe there is God the Son. And we believe the Holy Ghost, as Mr. De doc mentioned that came upon Marais is also God. They are indivisible, meaning they agree perfectly. They are one in unity. They never disagree. They never have disagree. We believe that when you get to heaven, if you get there, Jesus Christ, the Son of God will be seated according to the Word of God by the right hand of the Father,
and will actually maintain that throne forever. Basically.
That's what we mean by the Trinity in a short nutshell.
We have a time exactly for two more questions.
Mr. Dida?
Do you believe in the Holy Ghost? Why, or why not?
You see, the idea of the Holy Ghost in Christian them is that he is one in a trinity with the Christian says that the Father is God, the Son of God, and the Holy Ghost is born. But they are not three Gods at one point. In his catechism he continues, that the Father is almighty the son is almighty and the Holy Ghost is almighty, but they are not three Almighty is one Almighty, it continues your catechism. It says the father is a person, the son is a person and the Holy Ghost is a person. That's what God says in his book, person, person, person, but not the person but one person. I'm asking What language are you speaking?
Is that English? By God? It is gibberish. It's not English.
You see, you said person, person, person, but not real person, but one person as a brother. So I got you and your two other brothers. Let's say you have three identical triplets. And we can make a difference out between the three of you. They're all identical, we can make a difference. If one of you commit murder can be hanged the other
you say no.
I'm asking why not? So you tell me that he's a different person. Right? What makes him different? His personality. So the Father, you know, imagination, the human mind, you can help when you use words. They conjure up mental pictures. When you say in the name of the Father, you have a certain mental picture of that old Father Christmas, Santa Claus, millions and millions of times bigger than men, but something like a man sitting on some planet with his feet dangling onto the earth as its footstool. The Heaven is this cannot be the loving Father in heaven. There is a god the sun. I'm asking you a price.
No. Are you thinking of a handsome young man? blond hair, blue eyes features
something like what you saw the King of kings. Jesus of Nazareth. You know, the day of playing with Geoffrey Hinton was acting
blond hair blue eyes. Nice beard. Not with a pointy nose with a crooked nose. That makes other pictures coming to your mind. You know Shakespeare Mashallah famous is the Shylock Shylock. No, you see, so you're thinking of somebody like an Englishman or a Nordic or a German type, with a straight nose, the Son and the Holy Ghost, something that can occur when Jesus is baptized in the River Jordan by john the baptist, or something that can influence a fire at Pentecost, as in the picture is not very vivid. But the picture is there, you have three distinct mental pictures and how hard you try. You can never superimpose those three pictures and create one they'll ever be three in your
mind. But when I asked you how many pictures you see, you see one, you are liking brothers and sisters you are liking.
Actually about three minutes.
Mr. swagger, this question is from the management.
Do you give us permission to everyone interested in obtaining a copy of this event?
Number one, number two, why didn't you allow televising this event. And number three, we have offered this opportunity to televise this event in Mecca, but
was refused.
Shame on you, you did misquote me.
I did not say that. God is a person. The son is a person. The Holy Ghost is a person and they are one person.
I didn't say that. I said there is one God, not one person.
It seems to me they're televising it. I see 12345 cameras. You said they're not televising it. They're televising, aren't they?
I'm a little confused, I don't understand.
Do you give us permission? For everyone interested in obtaining a copy of this video, we will certainly do that providing that you do not edit the text?
You see, I know a little bit about television. And you can make anyone say just about anything you want them to say, by chopping it up. We are experts at that, Mr. deedat.
And
I would press this man.
Are you looking at me, sir, I promised you.
But I don't trust the whole world that I do not see. And we asked to sign a statement. If you wanted to televise it and take it with you do whatever you want to do with it, providing that you tell us where you are going to edit it, and how you're going to cut it up. I think that's only fair. We would not want to take anything he said and chop it up and make him to seem to say something that he did not say that wouldn't be right in a fair. And I think that we've been just about as Christian as anyone could ever be.
I want to say something just before we get started. I have not known to very much about Islam. I do not say that with any type of pride. But I have to be honest.
In the last few months, I have studied Islam somewhat and I'll admit I've only scratched the surface.
back some
I guess it must have been about two years ago now I made a derogatory statement over television about the Quran.
If you were not listening that particular week, I'm never going to tell you what it was. I wonder if it's ever been explained how many passages in the Quran and it is a beautiful book.
literarily, it's unequaled.
But how many stories were plagiarized from Jewish fables and folklore.
I wonder. And he said he prayed in the name of Mohammed.
Come out of him.
asking
what happened?
Nothing.
He prayed several times in the name of Mohammed come out of it.
But I remind you as I close this, a dead man cannot produce miracles.
I want to say it again I can't man cannot produce miracles. Jesus Christ is alive. I want to look for a moment at the alleged contradictions are variations found in the Word of God.
And from this, I want to prove to you that this is the word
and Second Samuel 24 and four in first Chronicles 21. And one it mentions that God provoked David. Second Samuel Satan provoked David first Chronicles, it seems like a contradiction.
Of course anyone that studies the Word of God knows that God is said to do things, oftentimes that he only allows to be done. To be honest with you. There's evidence in the Quran that the same thing was done by God.
Want to say that again?
There's no contradiction here. God often times in the Old Testament especially,
is placed in a position
of being responsible for something, when he only allows it to be done and in reality, he is responsible in effect. When you think of that,
in an explanation about the contradictions in the Bible, where the Satan is provoked, David, or the Lord provoke David is Look, this is we attribute it to God, that though the devil did it with a god did it.
On that basis, would we be prepared to concede that God had those 6 million Jews incinerated? Because Hitler did it was because God intended it? This is what you want to do. So God is responsible for the massacre, or the incineration of 6 million Jews, or even 600,000 or even 6000? is dramatic enough? If they if Hitler did it, who do you say God did it? Are you gonna blame God for that? You're going to exonerate Hitler and the Nazi party because he said, God did it. No.
We don't think like that. If a criminal is that such and such a thing, we say it is his action. He's responsible. We don't say God did it. We're doing it with the power comes from God. But God has given you that freewill to think and and to see right from wrong. So if you do wrong, you are responsible. You can't hold God responsible. So either David was proved by the Satan, or by the Lord and Satan and Lord are not synonymous terms in any religion. They are opposites. Satan and the God Almighty are opposite things.
First Kings four and 26. It speaks of 40,000 stolze, Solomon's grandeur,
Second Chronicles 925 4000 stalls relating the same incident and we would have to think, isn't that a contradiction it is plain pure and simple.
It relates the same story.
There are several incidents in the Word of God stating the same identical thing in various different ways where one account will be given, and the number will be slightly changed. Another count will be given it'll say 2000. And then Second Chronicles, the first Chronicles 3000, or whatever.
Enable
claiming to be from God, that book will be free from contradictions.
Like, for example, the example that brother gave I repeat that I said, Look, it says in one of the books, Solomon had 4000 stalls of horses. Another one says he had 40,000 stalls of horses, and four and 40 is only the difference of zero.
So you say, I said, you know, my cousin's the Jews, they didn't know the zero when they wrote the book. They didn't know if my Arab brothers who found it from my father's in India, and they shared it with the world zero.
The Jews didn't know they wrote this in words for fo UFO, he refers 44 to 40 ss now who made the mistake, God are the right and they will not say we are told that they will not say from mistakes. Mrs. Ellen G. White.
You say she's a cultist, Mrs. Ellen G. White, the prophetess of the Seventh Day Adventist movement.
She says in her Bible Commentary.
In her Bible Commentary, she says
she has no motive to lie. She believes in the Bible to be the inspired Word of God. And yet, she says, says the Bible we have read today is the work of many copyists, who have in most instances done the work with marvelous accuracy. In most instances, should they have done their work with marvelous accuracy. But copies have not been infallible, and God most and God most evidently has not seen fit to preserve them altogether from error. God didn't see fit.
In other words, this is this is his business, God's business. If he wants to see fit, if he wants to do anything he doesn't he doesn't go to * that's your business is if God didn't see fit to preserve them from making errors in transcribing. In the following pages of a commentary. This is why testifies further, I saw that God had specially guarded the Bible.
God had specially guarded the Bible. I'm asking for what
yet when copies are between a few
learned men had in some instances changed the words, in the original manuscripts. They changed the words, thinking that they were making it plain, when in reality, they were mystifying that we just plain by causing it to lead to the established views, which were governed by tradition. Like the Jehovah's Witnesses, they have produced a translation for the New World Translation. The Orthodox, you don't accept that. Why don't you? Because they have their own leanings, according to their own ideas, they are changing the words, same thing that the protesters did, they were people who believe in Jesus as God. So they said, Now, they changed the words.
So we said this is has been going on from the very beginning. We believe that Moses wrote what is called the Pentateuch,
those first five books, with the exception, possibly of the last few verses, and Deuteronomy.
And he could have even written that because we believe that God and I know Islam believes that God is so powerful, that he could have revealed to Moses exactly how he would die. And exactly how that his funeral would be conducted, that would have been no problem for God. But whether he wrote it or whether Joshua wrote it, it was written about 3500 years ago.
The first five books supposed to be the books of Moses, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.
These revises followers of the highest eminence they're telling us today
that
Moses didn't read the books. He didn't like the books he's not the author is the author of Genesis, aka, the first book of Moses in inverted commas.
Exodus, second book of Moses, the inverted from us.
Leviticus, third book of Moses, inverted from us, number four, book of Moses in inverted commas. Deuteronomy, fifth book of Moses in inverted commas, I'm asking why the inverted commas? What for why it is inverted from us, they are telling you in a very, very diplomatic, psychological way, that these are not our words, we don't believe so. But the common man, the lady, the preachers, the Bible, thumpers, the hard gospel, as this is what they believe
that these are the books of Moses, but Moses didn't write them. We don't believe that these are his words. So we put them in inverted commas.
It's not the book of Moses, there are more than 700 times in these five books. You did the expression, And the LORD said unto Moses, and Moses said unto the Lord, and the Lord said unto Moses, and Moses said unto the Lord, neither the Lord said this, nor did Moses write it.
English, this is your language.
This is the third person, not by God, not by Moses, if Moses wrote it, he would have said, The Lord said unto me, and I said unto the Lord, the Lord's eyes of the Lord says, I said unto Moses, and Moses said unto me, this isn't the third person and
that somebody else is writing about these things. It is not the word of God. It is not even the words of Moses. With regards to the obituary, I found out from Jewish scholars
that Jewish prophets didn't write the obituaries before dying.
This has been on my tombstone, you put these words epithets?
Jewish, do that. In the book of Deuteronomy, it says, My brother admits that it could be the words of Joshua, but they're supposed to be the books of Moses. How does Joshua hidden?
It says, There Moses died in the land of mob died in the past tense, over against with fear, and no man no with a very simple gun to this day. And Moses was, he was 120 years old when he died.
Now, some mention
about the many
versions of the Bible. Really, that's an incorrect statement. There is only one version of the Bible.
There are many translations.
Our scholars argue constantly over varied translations. King James Version, as we use that term, as I've mentioned incorrectly is really a translation.
Others have been put out, they were critical of the King James
II, even to the point
of laboring incessantly to derive the Old Testament from the Hebrew in which it was written, my
A few verses in Arabic
and the New Testament in Greek
translation Some
are incorrect we think.
I personally like the King James.
And brothers like God has given us to understand
that translations and versions are one of the same thing.
We Muslims we have a number of translations of the Quran, even into the English language, different people use of alley mommy to pick tall, no Daria body and on and on. We have English translations but different people.
And they the translation means a difference in the choice of words.
choice of words, in translating a certain phrase from Arabic into English choice of words. versions are quite a different thing.
Look,
here, I have in my hand, this Bible,
which brothers swag art, as well as many Protestants do not accept as the Word of God.
This is the Roman Catholic version of the Bible. The do a arenes version of the Bible.
This Bible has 73 books. This is an encyclopedia of 73 books, seven more than one
which brother swagga takes on the King James Version. This is the King James Version, he takes it
in his evangelists magazine, December 1985, somebody question brother swagger, about the Bible being the Word of God. And he says, Word of God and in bracket I refer to the King James Version.
In your evangelist of December 85, the King James Version, the King James version has thrown out those seven extra books
thrown out. In other words, those seven extra books, the Christian the Protestants do not accept as the Word of God. You use certain technical terms that like apocrypha, which the masses of Christian them do not know what is this apocrypha? apocrypha means doubtful, we do not deserve to be in the book of God as such, the Protestants threw it out as a fabrication. These seven books are thrown out from here. So this version, the Christian Protestants will not accept as the Word of God.
Am I correct? This is not the word of God. So we put it aside.
I agree with you what you tell me, I accept you say is not the word of God, I say I agree with you and put it aside.
Now you tell me that this is the word of God, the King James Version,
with the 66 books.
This was first published in 1600 11. By order of His Majesty, King James, whose name is still this today, Authorized Version, authorized by who? Not God Almighty, by King James, you authorized it, not God Almighty.
There are some 24,000 manuscripts of the Word of God of the New Testament alone, I should say, that dates back before 350 ad.
The original statement or signature or autograph of the Word of God does not exist, is limited mentioned the first one was printed on vellum, our our clay tablets some 3500 years ago. They perished from overuse and from being put on material that had little lasting quality, at least not that long.
But at any rate, some 24,000 copies have been made.
And scholarship tells us
when it concerns the ancient books of antiquity if at least 10 copies are in existence, you don't have to have the original to guarantee the original.
And when one considers that there are 24,000 copies, and there are some variants in those copies we admit.
But basically the text is not changed.
The boast about 24,000 manuscripts
brothers by God you
No, no two identical.
US policy out of the 24,000 that you're boasting about no two are identical. Then how do you come to know that this is the word of God and this is not out of the 24,000?
On the very face of it, when you open the book, the engineering the Torah talking about this is Mark, and Matthew begins. In your version, the King James Version, it says, The Gospel according to St. Matthew, the Gospel according to St. Mark the Gospel according to St. Luke, the Gospel according to St. JOHN, and asking, What is this according according according, what is this according to why according to I have got better swag as book it says the homosexuality is caused and its cure by Jimmy swagger, or just Jimmy Swaggart. He doesn't say according to Jimmy Swaggart.
Why this in the book of God, according to according to according to according to you know why? Because Metro didn't sign his name. Luke didn't sign his name. JOHN Dixon, Mark didn't sign his name. JOHN didn't sign his name. These are assumed anonymous books, and anonymous books
attributed to God
and the genealogy, and Matthew and Luke,
and Matthew, it gives Joseph's genealogy. And in Luke, it gives marriage genealogy.
In the temple in Jerusalem,
if there had been anything wrong with
I'm running out of time.
If there had been anything wrong with the genealogy of Christ,
they would have pointed it out immediately, but they did not.
The genealogy between Matthew and Luke, we are given 66 fathers and grandfathers to Jesus in a genealogy of 66 fathers and grandfathers, except for one name, no two names are identical, separate less. Everyone is a different name. Brother Swaggart says, one is the genealogy of Mary and one of Jesus as a wife, Mary, does the book say that? No. The book says this is the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the other one ends with Jesus Christ, there is no Mary inside.
66 names no two are alike except one and the father of Jesus Christ. Allegedly, God Almighty, He is not there. Can you imagine God Almighty dictating the genealogy of his son in inverted commas?
And yet he leaves himself out. He's going out of his way to dictate to genealogies with 66 names, and he's not in it. He's not there. I'm asking What is he trying to tell you?
What is it really trying to tell you?
When his name is not there, a man who had no genealogy, we believe no genealogy. He was born miraculously, without any male intervention. You give him 66, fathers and grandfathers and he said, this is God Almighty dictator
says we Muslims, brothers by God, we take strong exception for this type of handling of this mighty messenger for
the Judah, the father of the Jewish race, from whom we get the word Judah from whom we get the word Judaism, that she had prohibited with his daughter, oh, by the roadside.
While he was on his way to tonight, he sees this woman sitting by the wayside. And you know, he goes up to her and says, allow me to come in unto thee. She said, What will that give me? And he said, I'll give you a kick from the floor. So what guarantee that I will give it is as if this is your life? What guarantee do you want? This is your signature in your business and your staff and the old man gave to her and he prohibited with his brother in law. And we get too far isms are and they are now in the genealogy of Jesus, that they are the great children of * are the great grandfather's of Jesus Christ.
Matthew chapter one, verse one, it says, and this is the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of Abraham, the son of David and Abraham, Isaac, and Isaac because Jacob and Jacob bigger Judas and his brother, and Judas, get five A's and Sarah.
Look at the cross reference. It tells you Genesis chapter 38, and you'll find that this is the father in law with his daughter in law, who this is a student of *, and they are on to become the great grandfather's of Jesus Christ. I want to know, how does this come into the book of God? How does this come into the genealogy of a man who had no genealogy
was unique in his ascension.
The Ascension brothers phagocytose in his book, ma chapter 16, verse 16, another place Mark chapter 16, verse 19, I say it's not in my Bible.
I didn't reinvest. The Jews didn't protect the Hindus imprinted, you Christians, you produced this book, and you're telling me that this is the most up to date Bible with the most ancient manuscripts.
So I look for March of 216, I see ends at verse 890 20. is missing.
Did I take it out? The Muslims to get out? No.
32 scholars have the highest eminence but but 50 denominations they studied fit that this is another fabrication imposed upon Christian them. And they also tweet out. It's not in my Bible. Therefore it is not the word of God. If this is the word of God, then that is not the word of God. But
I pick up another by look at this
other saga I didn't take a
look at.
I see back again, it's inside.
What was thrown out the essential. There are only two places in in the Gospels. In the Gospel of Matthew, Mark, Luke and john there are only two places where essential is mentioned.
Mark chapter 16, verse 19,
Luke chapter four, verse 51,
thrown out of this version thrown out as fabrication essential.
And yet these Bibles, each and every one of them, they tell us that Jesus when he went to Jerusalem, he wrote that bounty into Jerusalem. Matthew says, Mark says he wrote the book into Jerusalem. Luke says he wrote the belt into Jerusalem. JOHN says he wrote that Ben came to Jerusalem.
The Koran mighty didn't miss that out his son riding the donkey into Jerusalem, when every Tom Dick and Harry was ready to go into Jerusalem that he didn't forget. But the ascension is not mentioned Not once.
And where is mentioned is not thrown out
by another Bible, identical Bible that's
printed by the same printers.
And it's there again, what was thrown out there, put it back again.
What games are you people playing?
That again,
this is the 1971 push back.
The ordinary people, poor people, they don't know what's going on what game is being played? Who knows? You read the process. The learner man, the preacher, He is a professor, but he won't tell his congregation what is really in the process. In the process, we are told that individuals and to church denominations, they stampeded them, they force them that they should put it back.
If not, they're going to preach against this book to say, Look, don't buy this, buy the King James Version.
Don't buy this, buy the change the most up to date Bible going to the most ancient manuscripts.
Don't touch that. This is the safer one, because it has everything that you want to preach. To catch the fish. It's easier to catch the fish with this than with this debate. You know the fish, you know uses, like Dale Carnegie, he tells us in his book, how to how to win friends and influence people. He says, I like strawberry and cream. I think most Americans do. But it's when I go fishing I put the room will protect the fish. Not that I love worms. But this is what the fish loves so
so now if you want to catch fish, you got to use the right bait.
Essential is now restored to the text says the professor. Why not pull them so
but doesn't speak freely to those scholars as freely as he happens to speak as Bella claims with him.
And I want to start this off tonight by quoting a passage of scripture that Mr. De Dodd and myself disagree somewhat over.
But
which is one out if not the dearest passage in the Word of God to the world of Christian Adam, found in St. john chapter three verse 16, For God so loved the world that he gave his only unique son.
You there Mr. de la
is only unique Son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have ever
lasting life.
And I want to use that as the basis for this
simple statement that I would attempt to make tonight.
Now, prepare for the shock.
As I prepare for the shock from these 32 scholars have the highest evidence that by 50 cooperating denominations, they say yet the King James version has three defects.
And that these defects are so many and so serious.
They are, these are not my words.
There are so, so many so serious as to call for revision in the English translation calls for revision in the revised
and in the revision,
the kingpin of the evangelist the future the hot gospel or the bible thumper, john 316.
No Christian preacher is with the name, he can clinch the deal with john 316.
JOHN 316, For God so loved the world.
The authorized King James version that he gave his only begotten son.
My brother saga changed the word to unique. This is not from the King James Version, the King James Version says,
I have
a video this morning this morning,
is speaking to a group as if it was his own church group, you know, dealings and lessons and big long papers on that are another one. He used the word because this morning
and eight hours time he changed it to
the Jesus.
We believe the Word of God teaches that there is one God, not to 510 1215 one god
manifests in three persons, three different personalities. We believe there is a heavenly Father.
We believe there is God the Son, and we believe the Holy Ghost, as Mr. De doc mentioned that came upon merit is also God. They are indivisible meaning they agree perfectly. They are one in unity. They never disagree they never have disagreed.
You see the idea of the Holy Ghost in Christian them is that he is one in a trinity with a Christian says that the Father is God. The son is God and the Holy Ghost is God. But they are not three Gods but one God. In his catechism he continues that the Father is almighty the son is almighty and the Holy Ghost is almighty but they are not three Almighty is but one almighty. It continues your catechism. It says the father is a person the son is a person and the Holy Ghost is a person. That's what God says in his book, person, person, person, but not three person but one person asking What language are you speaking?
Is that English? By God? It is gibberish is not English.
You see you said person, Person person, but not three person but one person as you are you two other brothers. Let's say you have three identical triplets, and we can make the difference are between the three of you. They're all identical, we can make a difference. If one of you commit murder than the other.
You say no.
I'm asking why not? So you tell me that he's a different person. Right? What makes it different? His personality. So the father, no imagination, the human mind you can help when you use words. They conjure up mental pictures. When you say in the name of the Father, you have a certain mental picture of the old Father Christmas Santa Claus, millions and millions of times bigger than men, but something like a man sitting on some planet with his feet dangling onto the footstool. The harnesses can op the loving Father in heaven. Minister got the son. I'm asking the price.
No, you you're thinking of a handsome young man, blond hair, blue eyes and some features.
Something like the King of kings, Jesus of Nazareth. You know
The day of trial with Geoffrey Hinton was acting
as a young man, blond hair, blue eyes.
Not through the nose with a crooked nose, that might make other pictures coming to your mind. You know, Shakespeare may shadow famous is a shallow, shallow, no, you see, so you're thinking of somebody like an Englishman, or a Nordic or a German type, with a straight nose, the Son, and the Holy Ghost something that can occur when Jesus says that, as in the legal jargon by john the baptist, or something that can influence the fire at Pentecost, as in the picture is not very vivid. But the picture is there are three distinct mental pictures and how hard you tried your
pictures and create one in your mind. But when I asked you how many pictures you see, you see one, you are lighting, brothers and sisters, you are lighting.
He prayed in the name of Mohammed
come out of him.
asking
what happened?
Nothing.
He prayed several times in the name of Mohammed come out of it.
Nothing.
And I do not mean that disrespectfully of Mohammed, he could have prayed in the name of Abraham or Moses.
And it would have done no better.
He could have prayed in the name of Paul, a Peter and it would have done no better.
So standing there alone, he says I think I'll try.
My Christian friend has said it, I don't believe it, but I'm gonna try.
He laid hands on it, in the name of Jesus Christ, come out and
he said brother swagat, before my eyes, he was delivered by the power of Almighty God.
I know that you do not deny the miracles of Jesus.
But I remind you, as I close this, a dead man cannot produce miracles.
With 2000 years of preaching,
you have this powers of miracle water. Christ gives life he hears Muhammad.
As my brothers, you don't read the scriptures, Jesus Christ, he said for visual errors, many false Christs and false prophets, who will show you great signs and wonders if it were possible to deceive.
A false prophet guys can do that.
Before Christ can perform miracles, if false prophets can perform miracles, then So is this a test
of your faith?
When Jesus Christ tells those who are doing this miraculous world, he's telling you in the Gospel of St. Matthew, that on that day, on the last day, on the day of judgment, he says, Many will come to me on that day say, Lord, Lord, did we know prophesied in tiny and indicting cast out devils, and in thy name, do many mighty works? In your name? In the name of Jesus, didn't you? Didn't we do all that? They said, Yes, I will profess into them, I never knew you depart from me. He did what iniquity.
You. He wanted to choose the path for me?
I don't know you, he will tell the Hindus for me or the atheist? For me, he will tell you, I want to know why. Why would he tell you? I don't even know you get out.
I says, Look, these are,
according to Jesus, one of the mightiest messengers of God. Jesus says, among those one of women that has not risen from the Baptist, and yet people from whom miracles
show what did you do? What miracles no miracle is not a
miracle is that without any miracles, you transform nations nations are transformed. 1000 million people were born in by alcohol.
I've learned that
Muslims are some of the most hospitable people on the face of the earth.
And I've learned that you are extremely, totally dedicated and serious about your fate.
In other words, it's not just a sham with you, you
mean business.
Jesus said, by the fruits you shall know them, Do men get a fix from the preserve of grace from the pond said, Every good tree will be good fruit, and every evil tree will vegetable fruit. Here is the test.
He said,
Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden,
and I will give you rest.
Take my yoke upon you and learn of me, for I am meek and lowly in heart, and you shall find rest and to your soul.
One day very soon. You see, he's promised to come back.
He's coming.
Because he said he would come, every single prophecy in this book that is supposed to be fulfilled, has been fulfilled.
The others that have not yet been fulfilled, will be fulfilled. There is a hunger in the heart of every person for God.
Only Jesus Christ, can
you see Jesus Christ when He sent out his disciples.
He instructed them,
not
the Samaritans, not
lost sheep of the house of Israel,
with the American Anglo Saxon, as the house of Israel,
then he's telling a Jewish woman, a Greek woman comes to wanting her daughter to be here. So he turns his face away. She goes on the other side, and she won't let him go. So the disciple said, help her this woman is persistent, you know, like a Burning Man.
Burning women do the same.
So Jesus says, are not sent back into the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
So there's a helper, Jesus says, Do not throw the bread of the children to the dogs.
While at
the same time, you will need every other human being other than the Jews or dogs in pitch.
According to your scripture, it says, Jesus says, Do not throw that into dogs do not propose before slide
the chain. So he says, Do not throw the bread of the children to the dogs. The woman in desperation, her child's life is at stake. She says, Master even the dogs or transform the master stable.
This is the Scripture. Unfortunately, the Scripture is not being quoted that scripture, quote what Jesus said, I'd love to hear what Jesus said. Jesus says, not about this idea that you just believe. And he said, he said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, except your righteousness exceed the righteousness of the scribes and the Pharisees. You shall by no means under the kingdom of heaven, there is no heaven for you.
How can you better than
there is no book on the face of the earth
that has had the textual criticism that this book has had.
I sort of
feel insignificant when I stand here attempting to speak about the Bible, when I realized that some of the world's most eminent scholars have critically looked at every single text over and over and over again,
sparing no expense, no time, no effort to ascertain if it was what it said it was, I have read the Bible through minute, minute minute times.
And others, such as I have read it many more times, much more educated than I could ever be.
Understanding both Hebrew and Greek.
And the 32 scholars have the highest eminence, that by 50 cooperating denominations, they tweet out, Jesus.
Did the Muslims threaten you that look, if you don't take that word out of the Bible, we will supply you boy.
did they do that? Did they tell you if you don't take this one out from the Bible?
Why did you take it out? Because it was an interpolation. It was not the word of God the Bible. It has this interpolation.
You said this morning I heard the tape is at one word, even one word, it's as if it is not supposed to be there is there is it the whole book should be thrown away.
But it's not only one word
according to your device, and tells me in one of his books, that if you want to know anything factual knowledge, on any subject, you go to the experts.
And he gives an example, that if you want to know something about geology, you go to the geologist.
If you want to know about the Bible, when you go to the Baba Shoemaker, No, you go to the Bible experts, the Bible scholars, and we are telling you that this is a fabrication.
Then the Trinity, Father, Son and Holy Ghost,
brother swagger, also called Edgar Betty, from the first episode of john chapter five, verse seven, where it says, For there are three that there are in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one.
If he gives me time in Santa, look which book I can open it and show you which book after reading this petition,
in my Bible,
is not the word of God
in my Bible is not there.
Why is it?
Because your scholars were the two scholars of the highest eminent Bible scholars, that by 50 cooperating denominations, they say this is another fabrication, never interpolation.
So they also drilled out without any ceremony
in response to brothers sweigart
Muhammad, peace be upon him in the Bible, in response to the sweigart last night, at question time, somebody posed the question to him,
when he was asked, whether there was any mention of Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam in the Christian Bible, and brother said that according to his understanding, knowledge, he said, No, there is nothing in the Bible about Muhammad.
in the world today, there are some 1000 200 million Christians and 1000 million Muslims
and they are at loggerheads on the subject of
scriptures. The Christian he says that the Bible, the Holy Bible is the Word of God and they will not accept another and the history says that the Quran is Allah Allah is a word of God. homosexuality, he says what it has done this thing in his book on homosexuality, you know, this filthy dirty thing about gays sodomized to call them gays. He says, America is a system that God would judge. If he doesn't judge you. He says he might have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah. And I will prove from the Christian Bible, not from the Quran. The Quran says they didn't kill him and they didn't crucify him satisfied, but blue to satisfy the Christian. I will show to them from the
Christian Bible that brothers you have listened to the whole thing. You're reading something and actually you're misunderstanding it. Dr. Dr. site as is please tell us tell these people that in my language in English, when we say a spirit has no flesh and bones that it has flesh and bones.
You're ready for this.
I want to be sure he's ready for this.