Adnan Rashid – Is There any Hadith about Prophethood of Mirza Destroyed in a moment
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The conversation covers the history of the Holy Prophet salallahuinking from the Arabian descent and the use of the "has" in the title. The speakers emphasize the importance of finding the "has" in relation to references and provide more credit to the people involved. They also discuss the authenticity of certain events and advise the caller to check if it is authentic, while also mentioning a woman named Lana claims to have read a book about Hades and should not be stupid.
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You have that hadith. Lama the Eliza in there? Yes, you do. So you stupid because the by the consensus of Sunni scholars, all the scholars of Hadith have declared that report to be a fabrication. Wait, wait, so are you saying no, you're stupid? No, no, I've checked the attentionally it's a hadith. Okay. It is nice. Okay. Okay, now.
Thank you make him a point. No, no, no, no. Okay. You know, the line between by the way the line between life and Moto is very thin, you know? Yeah. So they will only record between us. There's no crowd.
I don't give you the right. I give you the right to the court given him. I've given him the right. I'm not giving you the right. Right. That's my why not?
Because you see this as unnecessary? No, no one's gonna come. Come come. Yeah, no, no. All I'm saying to you is, I accept your point, that you just can't give up all this. I understand that. But remember, the same was said about the Holy Prophet salallahu Salam when the Jews? I don't know I have no issue with the Christians. But when the Jews themselves were making the same arguments very why should we give up all very faithful all in making a fair point, this is the point but then again, let me come back to on that point. There is no comparison between the two situations. One side the Jews are rejecting an Arabian Prophet who is clearly foretold in their scriptures. And we
are multiple references that point to Arabia, multiple Arabia the geography, the line that descent actual his his DNA, I mean, when I say DNA, I mean his descent que dar, his ancestor, Prophet Muhammad was ancestor is mentioned by name Okay. On the other hand, on the other hand, Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani, sob, there is nothing about him, no dissent, no geography, no reference to the country, what we have is statesmen like Lana via body, or if there was a prophet after me, it would have been, it would have been Omar Ali, your life to me, like Harun was to Mustafa there is no prophet after me. So all of these multiple statements the prophet is making categorically, you want
us to accept a man who was born in Punjab in the 19th century, who came from the Mongol descent and accept him as a prophet. Without any references? The person you're referring to? Yes, this is this is serious. He says here, okay, about what?
Just just to write. Okay, you read then we'll, we'll talk about it. What he says here. How can I share with her as narrated? Say, He is the Holy Prophet.
Peace, peace and blessings be upon him? Verily, is the seal of the prophets. Yes, but say not that no prophet will come after him. Okay, so no, no. Huddle, Ali. Abdur Rahman. A salami narrates that he used to teach has Hasson and heard her saying, I live in peace with them. Wounds has only been a Buddha, Allah, Allah be pleased with him has thereby while he was teaching them, so he said to him, teach the human being with a vowel meaning, right, this is the Roman sword. Right? The person you were praising over there, himself said, Nereus, Ayesha, that where does the Hadith from
his work? He's okay. Okay, now let me let me very good you pulled you pulled out a reference from one of the toughest. Okay, now let me explain something very quickly. When you pull out a reference, you should know especially when you speak into an educated Sony, which I'm not claiming to be. I'm not claiming to be an educated Sony but I'm saying when you do, you must realize that they will throw it back at you because they will check the authenticity, if at the fear is being used to present a reference that clearly indicates that the Ahmadis don't have an authentic reference from authentic books from this Asita number one, okay, if you wait,
what the fear is not an authentic source for us. What did you understand my statement I'm seeing Farsi year, the first year of the Quran, I'll call Toby. Toby. Okay, if Luca theory is the theory of the Quran, okay, the McSherry and
FUCKLOAD mineralogy Wait, let me let me get. Okay. So are the others I mentioned, and they have many inauthentic, fabricated reports to contextualize some of the meanings of the Quran? Okay, we can throw those reports on the wall without considering them. Okay. So if you present a report to have to have a wait, wait, wait, let me finish.
If you present a report to me as evidence, remember, we will check its authenticity. Now. Sahih Muslim, did I challenge you on that? Absolutely not. Same book. You had the same book. You presented a hadith of a Muslim. I read it, I translated it and it goes
was against you know, what isn't that extreme? Why don't use goes against us? Yeah, well, you put your major fine. Let's just go back.
Right. That's the point I wanted to
speak about. So there are a few things we have to check the authenticity and your translation, whether it's correct or not.
Listen to me, the fact is the Arabic is there. So it's whoever knows Arabic can check it for themselves. Yes. And this is one of the biggest complaints against comedies is that they spin the Arabic deliberately to to score the points deliberately. No, no. See, this is what you're claiming. This is not true.
It's simple case. They are the Arabic Do you see yourself shows the translation is wrong, which I did, which I did earlier as a Muslim. How would you translate Lana via body? I understand that Hadees Yes, okay. No prophet will come after me. Okay. Period. No, no, but you see, that's all we need. But here's another I'm just giving you an example. Why is it authentic? Yes. It's from his book. You have to check. I've already checked
when you when you open it the field for me I know you have nothing to Bukhari and Muslim. When you open it the field for me? I will because the field I'll give you other examples of Shiva literature has absurdities, absurdities, I will? I would put you in touch with Chef Tamim. He's an Arab scholar from bring anyone Oh, no, no, the point is when you're saying no. is authentic. Is he had checked on him is? is in London. Bring him to the park next week. If he's your big guy is does he know English?
The point is, do you think that we would put anything like this on lift our checks? We're not stupid.
You must give us more credit. Okay. All right. Let me ask you a question. Let me tell you let me let me see if you're stupid or not. Okay, I'm not saying you are but let me see if you are. Okay. Do you have that? Hadees llama de la isa in there. Yes, you do. So you stupid done. Because the by the consensus of Sunni scholars, all the scholars of Hadith have declared that report to be a fabrication. Wait, wait. So are you saying no, you're stupid? No, no, no, it is checked the intensity of the Hadith. Okay, it is Dave. Okay, Dave. Okay, now. Thank you making my point. No, no, no, no. Okay. Do you know the line between by the way the line between dive and Mojo is very thin.
Do you know about that? It's a question.
Okay, let's not debate. Let's have a conversation if you study the animal Hadees I have I have a little bit a little bit. Yeah. I've also studied not maybe not as far as you but do you know that the line between the event model the line between the icon model scholars say you cannot reject it? Why not? You cannot reject anything. Anything that Dave did and by the way do you forgot to mention some scholars have mentioned it as dive Jade Donna that means extremely weak now that means it's not her job right now and you have it in your book? No, no as evidence is here. I have it in his book. Which Which book in his book about the end science? Okay. I didn't bring it actually. I should have
brought it with me from London. Okay, come on. I intended because I knew you were going to say okay, you but whoever I have where he comments on this. That he accepts this. That is a possibility. Okay. Sam says in his book, it's a possibility. Lima release ever minima
can be accepted. Okay. Well, he has no problem. Very good point. Very good point. That's it. That's a you know, you know who it was? Yes. I know who he is. He was a scholar of Hades. Yes, I know who you are. And do you know what he said about this hadith. He just told you what he said no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Apart from this, the Hohokam on the Hadith, that the status of because when you see you have to understand when you read scholars, you have to know what they are doing.