Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Tackling Atheism and Agnosticism
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Bismillah al Rahman al Rahim Al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil Alameen wa
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Allah subhanho wa taala. In many, many verses in the Quran, he
speaks about himself.
Allah subhanho wa Taala hardly ever in the Quran, he does he ever
discuss his existence.
When you look at the verses that relate to Allah subhanaw taala in
the Quran, he doesn't discuss his existence that this is a proof for
my existence.
That is taken as though it's agreed upon that Allah exists.
However, the numerous verses in the Quran, too many to count,
discuss his oneness.
When Allah subhanaw taala is discussing his oneness.
It goes to prove that his existence was taken as a given.
There is no question about it. For example, ALLAH SubhanA wa Tada
Cinturato Bacara were Isla who Camila Hua la isla Illa who, who
are Rahman Al Rahim
again in Surah Al Baqarah Allahu La ilaha illa who will high Europa
Yom Lata, who the WHO sina tuwana gnome and it continues until the
end as everybody knows. So earlier Imran La ilaha illa who Allah Aziz
will Hakeem, there is no God except Allah. That's what La ilaha
illa me Illa Illa who means Allah Aziz will Hakeem the Mighty One
and the wise one. Again Surah Al Anon. 30 como la hora, boom that
is your Lord. He is your Lord La ilaha illa who there is no God
except he hardly Coco Leisha, the creator of everything, just in
case you don't know and you don't agree. He is also the creator of
everything. Furbo do thus worship him. Well who are other coalition
in verkeerd? He is the patron of everything. So to Tober wama
O'Meara ill earlier with Allah Himachal is singing Allah Who Deen
actually Alma O'Meara Illa Leah, Abu Allahu wa Haider. They will
only commanded that they worship one Lord and not many, many, many.
Again.
What's your Aquila che in Elma? Actually La ilaha illa who again
subhanho wa Taala I'm usually Khun there is no God except he that's
why you should only worship him.
And Allah is glorified and far beyond what they bring as partners
to him. So all of this as you can say, is on the Oneness of Allah.
Again, in surah Taha Allah says, In nama Illa, who Comilla verily
your Lord is Allah, your Lord, and Lord here, Allah the word Allah
which is different to Allah. Allah is a proper name for Allah. It
means that God, that deity, that deity worthy of worship, who
everybody is dependent on, and he is dependent on no one that is the
meaning of Allah, Allah, that creator that being possessed of
all of his beautiful names, and his attributes, characteristics.
That's what Allah is a very comprehensive word. However, the
word Allah means God or deity, something that you take as an
object of worship. That's why it's a very fluid term Illa you can
have Alia, which means the plural gods. So it's like God, Allah is
different than God. God could be used for many objects of worship.
People take many things as worship they take trees, as objects of
worship, cows as objects of worship, and many, many other
things. Those are all earlier, a plural of Allah. That's why you
have also in English, you have God and you have goddesses, female
gods as such, just an object of worship. But the true God is Allah
subhanaw taala is saying here is that the true deity true.
Entity worthy of your worship is only Allah. That's why in nama
Illa hukum Allah de la ilaha illa who was the Aquila che in Elma?
The verily your Lord is Allah, the One besides whom there is no God,
there is no entity, worthy or essence worthy of worship, and he
is expensive over everything in terms of knowledge, he knows
everything, his knowledge covers everything.
Allah subhanaw taala again says in Surah cosas what are the rumour
Allah He Isla Han Aha, do not call on to any other god.
besides Allah, with Allah or even if you believe in Allah, because
many of them did believe in Allah actually, they believed in the one
they believed in the supreme god, they just
added many, many other gods to it. So Allah is saying that do not
call with Allah to any other deity, La ilaha illa who there is
no God except he called LU che in Harlequin, Illa wotja Everything
is going to perish except his countenance. Love will hook mu for
him is all the command and dominion and control y la he tours
your own, and to him you're going to return that's in certain
classes, then insert zoom where we have again, the de como la hora,
Bukom, He is your Lord. All of this description we mentioned that
is all of your Lord LA who will Mulk for him is the sovereignty.
Hate for Him is the kingdom, La ilaha illa? Who again, emphasis
there is no God except he What's wrong with you people? Why do you
go and worship others? Why do you pay respect to others when he is
the only God you don't need anyone, he is sufficient to deal
with everybody in humanity with every object in creation at the
same time. Because we think as human beings that I can only
manage this many things at once. I can only listen to maybe one or
two people at one time. How am I able to listen? A hips class
teacher, somebody who's who's teaching students hips, they can
just about listen to two people at once. If they've got three people
in front of them, there's there's no way there's no way they're just
listening a bit here listening a bit here and listening a bit here.
Right. So even as human beings, I mean, you can do a test have two
headphones with one, one stream of sound coming in one another
streaming and try to figure out you can't we just don't have that
ability. with Allah subhanaw taala his ability is that he can listen
to every human being, as they're speaking not just what they're
saying. Because we don't always we're not always speaking. He also
knows exactly what we're thinking at any given moment. Can you
imagine that? And not just what humans are saying or thinking,
what they're looking at, what they're listening to. All of that
is he's conscious of, aside from that, even the smallest of
creatures, that ant that centipede that is under that rock in your
back garden that you don't even know exists there. And one day,
you're to lift up that stone and you see about five centipedes
there, he can hear that work.
And this is not an exaggeration. This is what he mentions. Not a
leaf. How many leaves in the world. Forget the world, how many
leaves in England, forget the forget England, how many leaves in
your own back garden? How many leaves on one tree.
It's like saying how many hair on my head. But Allah knows warmer
TESPA to me will continue layer I demo. Every single leaf that drops
he knows about it, he knows about it, you know from a human person
is very difficult to understand is because we can only manage a very
limited amount of things and activities in one go. That's why
we delegate tasks. We have managers and sub managers, right?
We administrate and we delegate and we think why can Allah do
that? That he must do that? How can you take care of so many
things, but that is why the king verse in the Quran, the AYATUL
kursi one of the greatest verses of the Quran exactly defines for
you who our Lord is, well are you do who have low mindsets that
protect preserving them looking after them does not make him weary
in the least. Because eventually us even you've got a superhuman of
some sorts, who's manages many, many tasks, they do eventually get
tired. They eventually get old, they retire. And Allah has been
doing this from day one of the universe. He doesn't have a day
one, but the universe has a day one. This is I'm just reinforcing
our belief.
So he says La ilaha illa who for Anna to soften. Were you being
misled, then were you directing your attention to what's the
problem? Allah remains in many different words. If only we could
understand the Quran and its Arabic then you'd really
appreciate what he's saying. And it really penetrate our hearts for
another two surah foon Were you being misled? Where are you being
directed or miss directed like this? Then Allah subhanaw taala in
Surah, telehealth and this is just a short selection of the verse
that Allah says in surah Rafi the LI como la hora. Bukom. He is your
Lord Harley, Coco Felicia the creator of everything. La ilaha
illa who there is no God except he
for an for call. Again, where are you going? Where you stumbling
around?
Now, this is what Allah subhanaw taala says in the Quran. He is
establishing His Oneness rather than his existence. What does that
mean? Why would somebody do that? If it was about establishing the
existence of God, why wouldn't Allah do that? And instead Why did
he just say he is one? Well, one simple
answer to that is when you establish the oneness of
something, it clearly establishes that he exists.
However, there's another thing to this, if you look around the
world,
if you look around the world, it's only in this time and age in the
last 40 or so years that atheists and what's an atheist, somebody
who denies God out completely outrightly denies god, that's an
atheist. Right? A theist is a believer, an atheist is somebody
who, who denies. So that's an atheist. It's only we have an
unfortunate luck. Right? If you can call it unfortunate luck, if
that's even a that's an oxymoron there, right? You can't have an
unfortunate luck, right? But we have the unfortunate task of being
existent in this time and age for that, and Allah knows best why
we're here. But may Allah subhanaw taala grant us the best of it. But
we are in a time when atheists have become militant for the first
time
in recorded history. The reason is that if you look at the history of
atheists, and there's a beautiful book by Nick Spencer, called the
atheism or atheists Origin of the Species, it's a basically a pun on
the book on, you know, Darwinism and evolution, The Origin of the
Species. So where does this species of atheist come from, and
he's traced it from the 15th 16th century, primarily Europe, brought
it down. And what he shows in there is that
many of the atheists that were later discovered to be atheists
were always hidden atheists. Many of them, unfortunately, came from
religious backgrounds, which is the sad fact many of them came
from religious backgrounds. They were either ministers themselves,
because if you look at places like Harvard, and
Harvard, and Yale and other major universities, they started off as
divinity schools, because the church pretty much ruled Europe,
and the church is what control Europe for a very long time. So
many of these schools, even in America, which I quoted, yellow,
Harvard, they started our schools of divinity. And that's why when
you came out, you are a Doctor of Divinity, divinity is referring to
God. So it started off with this as religious schools that then
went into all of the other sciences, because that time, the
sciences etc, were very limited, you could become a master of all
sciences at that time. Now, it's just become so far spread out that
it's very difficult to master even a single science nowadays. That's
how difficult it's become you have to always specialize. That's what
PhDs are about now specializing in one field before you know the idea
of a BA is that you study Darby in general, right? That's a that's a
BA, a masters is that you? You study one area of Darby, right one
locality one community, the Muslims of Darby, then you get to
a PhD, which is like, you just, you're just studying one meter
square and digging 10 feet down. Right? That's what a PhD is
getting very specific, and how many PhDs can you do in your life?
Right? So it's very specific things that you have to study
nowadays, it's getting very complicated.
So,
over the course of the centuries, you had atheists then, as I said,
many of them were children of pastors, priests, rabbis, right?
They were from primarily Catholic, Protestant, and Judaic traditions,
these were where the, a lot of them came from, listen, you know
what atheism was, if you look at it, for many of them, it was a, it
was a bad reaction to the persecution of the church, or of
the religious authorities. When you persecute somebody, when you
oppress somebody in the name of religion, you are going to turn
them away from religion.
You're going to turn them away from religion. And unfortunately,
we have some Muslims who do this around the world they take over a
piece of land, right the size of Darby, maybe, right, and they
start cutting off people's hands straightaway. Rather than starting
to teach them something, starting to teach them some other urban
tarbiyah and get them you know, get their welfare back, get their
security back, they start persecuting everybody, they start
beating up all of the women, they start would you call it flogging
people for small small issues and say we are Sharia we want to show
you Sharia Hola, hola. Hola. Cote La Villa 1% or so is the penalties
in Islam you know the hand cutting and all that of the CHE the Sharia
is so broad, but today unfortunately among the non
Muslims, what has been made popular is actually is hand
cutting. Sharia is flogging somebody that surely is whipping
somebody, this is what's become and then now as soon as somebody
has Sharia Sharia courts that actually help women get divorce,
right, get a Talaq, right for themselves. They're going after
them because they think that there's there's some controversy,
there's some actually some conspiracy there. This is the
problem we're dealing with right now. I'm trying to explain.
So over the course of the
centuries, many of these people used to write books. And in there,
they used to try to slip these ideas of atheism. And then they
would be caught, and then they would recant. And they would say,
No Tauba, Tauba Tauba. Not in those words, President, right. And
then after that, he would write another book. It's only in the
last 3040 years, you have the Sam Harris, and you have Dawkins, and
you have two or three others, that they've become so brave, that now
it's become militant atheism, is become militant atheism. Now, they
are out there on social media, on Twitter, on Facebook, on YouTube.
And some of them are very, very eloquent. They're very
charismatic. And they have at least I have dealt with at least
four young men and women, young youth, and a lot of them from
religious backgrounds. Who, if I can say there's one person that
has influenced them is Richard Dawkins. Because the arguments
that they bring up about why they're losing their faith, then
it is primarily from his book
is primarily from his book. So
when I say our young brothers and sisters, sometimes I would feel
that they're from families that were not very religious. However,
there was one individual and this was when I was in America. He had
some questions. So a friend of mine who knew him said, he should
speak to me. So he called me and he started asking me all of these
questions. And the questions were about why do women get half of
that of men in inheritance? And all of these side questions I
tried to explain to him, but it wasn't working at all. And
generally, when you explain you show them the rationale behind
these things, they generally people do do generally get it and
understand because they're missing some link here or there. However
this person wasn't getting. So I had this niggling feeling in my
mind that there's a deeper rooted problem here. So I said,
Do you believe in God, I just asked him this out of the blue.
And it may have been the first time he's been challenged by this
question. So this was his answer. Yeah.
Like, half baked, you know, he, that kind of an answer. So then I
started pushing that. And then I realized I asked him a bit more.
His brother is doing hymns of the Quran. So he is not from a family
that is out of the deen not practicing just Juma just Eid? No,
these guys are praying family. Something's going wrong here.
Whatever that may be. If you look at these atheists,
what it shows is that some of the worst laws today in Europe, if I
was to ask the people sitting here, which place in Europe do you
think is the worst for Muslims?
You go, right. I mean, that's pretty much an agreement here.
Right? France, right? By Lee. Right? It's France. Why is that
the case? Why do they hate religion so much? Why do they feel
is justified to criticize, not criticize, criticize, but to
denigrate a religion? The reason is that they seem to have had the
worst oppression by the church.
If you look around Europe, if you look around the Western world, the
best place for religion in a sense, I mean, England hamdulillah
is very good. But there are very few churchgoers in this country.
Do you know that in London alone in the City of London alone, in
general, in London alone, in the last year or two in last three
years economy exactly how many? last few years?
There's been at least 50 churches that have been made into what? I
knew you're going to say that but that's not that's not what I'm
going to say. Right? Yes, there's been many churches, mainly to
Masjid. But
okay, it's become in a masjid at least it's become from one worship
place to another worship place, right? God is still being
worshiped in these houses, know, at least 5050 of them have been
made into luxury homes.
Right? That's aside from those that the messages buy up. 50 of
them have been to homes, right, because London is a very expensive
place. So it's churches, they can't afford it. And they're these
big majestic buildings. They can't even pay for the roof. Some of
them because they don't have the membership anymore. Some of these
really classical places, these places Renaissance type time and
all that their bills just to maintain them are so huge that
they can't look after them anymore. They're struggling.
People aren't believers anymore.
You've got less believers here per square mile per 1000 people than
you have in America. America has many people who are religious,
whether they practice the true religion or is it different, but
they practice a form of Christianity where I used to be in
Santa Barbara, to be so many different churches and all
mashallah fool. And in my discussion with the pastor's
because we had a clergy Association, which I used to take
part in some time to discuss. So I asked him how you know how many
people
Come to your churches. They said, Well, this many this many,
whatever. But we have big competition in this area because
it was Santa Barbara, which is right on the coast. Right. So we
have beautiful mountains on one side and beautiful beaches on the
other side. So that's they said, We have too much competition here.
Right? So they were complaining about this. And yet they had many
more people that would generally go to churches here. The church
goes in England, old Africans, the African Christians. I don't know
if you've noticed this. There's a lot of African Christians, you see
them outside churches on Sunday. Right? People don't go to church
anymore as much. So what you've got here is that America because
it it separated church and state from its inception, you know, from
the Constitution, or whatever gave freedom, it seems like religion
was allowed to allow to allow it to grow there. And they, you know,
lots of churches grew and they don't have the same animosity
towards it. Yes, you've got problems against any kind of
belief. And today, the two religions that are probably being
attacked most by so called liberal by liberals or postmodern in this
time of post modernism, whatever is the Catholics, right? Because
it's the only other organized, structured religion we have in the
world today. Because Protestants are very divided. diluted, right?
Whereas Catholics, they still have, okay, you know, no,
no contraception, right. It's even more difficult than a Muslim, no
contraception, you cannot divorce. If you divorce, you can't come to
the church anymore. The big debates going on about this. I
remember when I went to the vet, when I went to I've been to the
Rome, I've been to Vatican, right. And I've had lots of discussions
with a number of these in a number of the priests and monks and the
Abbott's and others who are there. And this is a massive issue for
them. They just, they're just dealing with this and the other
one is Islam. Right. The other one is Islam. We don't even have a
national structure. Like if you see Rome and the Vatican, the Pope
and the organization, the wealth that they have. We don't have it
like that ours is very splintered. But mashallah the Eman is what
keeps us together. It's amazing. You go to any country in the
world, you see somebody else who half looks like a Muslim who says
Salam Alikum What do you see? What difference do you see? Don't you
suddenly see softening out Salam Alikum a smile, suddenly sick fit
the sense of security to a certain degree. That's the beauty of our
Islam that the salam word is so powerful of Shia salaam Urbina
calm. So what happened is that French had a lot of persecution, a
lot of oppression. That's why when they rebelled, and when they, they
turned it all around, they hated religion, they ended up hating
religion, and they see Islam as a problem with that, because in
Islam, you there are boundaries, you can't do this, you can't do
that. In this, their form of secularism is an extreme form of
secularism. It's like the ISIS form of Islam, because they are
willing to go and arrest women on the beach that are covered up, I
guess, extreme, that's another form of extremism, to understand.
And I'm really happy to at least some of the judges that got that
idea. And they didn't become extremists as well. Atheism, God,
denial comes out of oppression within religion, that teaches us a
lesson as well. What we're the problem we're having today is
ignorant parents, that are highly cultural, that are highly
cultural, or forcing their children to, to do things that is
cultural, but not Islamic at all. And they're giving it the name of
Islam.
And that is SubhanAllah. That is taking people away from the faith.
I dealt with a sister, a woman who is now married to a non Muslim.
She's a Pakistani woman, right, married to a non Muslim. And I
asked her her story, how did you even get into this situation? And
she said that I was forced into a marriage with my cousin, you know,
whatever it was, and I just couldn't get along with him. And I
was forced into it in the name of faith. And then after that, I just
rebelled, and this is what I ended up with, because they disowned me
after that. Now, one is that, you know, you encourage your child to
marry X, Y and Zed and arrange it, it's fine, and they're happy with
it. There's nothing wrong with that manage that. In fact, there's
a recent report saying that arranged marriages are a lot more
successful. And you know, today's Subhanallah
you know, the old the old uncle and auntie in the in the village
or in the city or in the town that hooks everybody up? She kind of
knows everybody. Right? Have you got somebody in Darby that does
that. Right. You know, you have them the uncle or the aunt. I
mean, I'm sure there must be somebody here. So he's looking at
Hey, are you married yet? Right. I got somebody for you.
I'm only joking. I don't have anybody for you here right but
Hey, it's just a rhetorical question, brother. But Marcella,
he's not married, so maybe you guys can find him some shall find
him two or three options, options.
So,
you don't mind me asking you that question. Okay.
So you know, you had those people, but unfortunately, our networks
are also breaking down. This is the time of individualism where
everybody's concerned about themselves that they're sometimes,
you know, if I've suggested somebody to somebody, and then
after it broke up, it didn't go, well, they'll blame me for it. So
now people are saying, Man, we don't even want to suggest
anything anymore. Because they will come to us suggested, and I
didn't know I'm not God, I just suggested you're supposed to do
your checks. And, you know, you're supposed to do your, your
investigation and figure it out. I mean, don't just go with what I'm
saying, you know, I don't know this person, I'm just thinking
it's a suitable match. So now, because of all of these people
want to let go, so you know, who's taken their place.
These marriage bureaus online shaadi.com, or whatever you call
them, you have to pay for it. That's the only difference. They
are like that uncle or auntie in the in the gang in the village
worth, but they just use computer algorithms to match you up, and
you have to pay for them. Now, it was a free service. But now you
have to pay for it. That's the difference here. Right. But
anyway, the point of our discussion is that parents should
be very, very careful that because of their concept of their culture,
and trying to conflate that, with religion, imposing that on their
children is good, could very well possibly take their children away
from the faith if they don't have any other way of learning what
their true religion is. So if a child hasn't done well at madrasa
or mctominay, he doesn't really know what his religion is the only
religion he knows his of his parents, that Islam that his
parents taught him.
Right, or her parents taught her, then they will think what kind of
Islam is this and I'm being forced to marry somebody I hate. I don't
like I can't work with. Can you understand? These are just an idea
of how these things came about. I'm not saying this was all the
case. But because France had the worst, their reaction was the
worst. That's why the title of the chapter of Nick Spencer's book is
French fury, huge amount of fury that they had after, you know, the
they overturned the church.
Now,
many of these atheists today now, because Islam is kind of the big
elephant in the room all the time. And unfortunately, we have people
who have caused an issue in different parts of the world that
have just given food to these people. Many of these
atheists though they're from Christian or Judaic backgrounds, a
lot of the effort is against the Muslims, and of course, against
the Catholics and others, because they say, they see Islam outside
on the road being practiced. Islam is manifest, you can't turn on
road somebody is a Catholic or Protestant or liberal Jewish
liberally Jewish, you know, liberal Jew, for that matter. Yes.
If you come to my area, where you have the Orthodox Jews in Stamford
Hill, well, mashallah, you know, you can see it, and we peacefully
coexist there, which is really wonderful, right? And on common
issues, we even get together to deal with them, right on common
issues that affect both of our communities, right, that shows
that people of religion can work together. However, atheists, they
try to undermine this. And they try to show that the problems come
from religion, that all the wars in the world based on religion, if
you look at the Second World War, wasn't supposed to be based on
religion, and yet it had the greatest massacre. It had the
greatest tragic tragedy, the number of people killed during
these World Wars was much greater than anything that's happened
recently. This is nothing
that a man amount of abortions that are taking place late term, 3
million babies are being killed every single year, Europe and
America.
And this is after 120 days when in Islam before that it's allowed to
in certain circumstances after 120 days is not allowed.
These are the most vulnerable. It's a tragedy. It's it's a
massive massacre that's taking place, but it's okay because it's
been justified.
It's been justified. Now in Islam, we're not as the Catholics where
there's no abortion allowed at all. Regardless, we believe that
120 days is when the rule the spirit is blown in and thus the
person is then a human being 120 Then we have no then we can't do
anything but before that, under certain cases like *, serious,
serious illness problems or whatever it may be the possibility
of possibility of removing, but after that there isn't, and this
happens quite normally.
Now, what do atheists believe? Firstly is they don't want any
ought to do anything to do with religion, which is a belief in the
Supreme Being in a creator. They want to believe that man can make
laws for themselves. However, it creates a number of problems. And
I don't want to go into all of the theological problems here, because
it's going to become a lesson in theology, which is going to be
quite complex and not the right thing for this Sunday night,
right? It's just the wrong time for it. But the idea of good and
evil, where does good and evil come from? Who decides what is
good? And what is evil? Right? Who decides these things? If there's
no concept of God and evil, then how can there be reward and
punishment in the hereafter? If there is a God? How do we see him
function in our daily lives? What does God do? So you have varying
opinions about who God is. So let's This is look at that
briefly.
One of the main issues is
this world, which is a reality that everybody lives in, nobody
can deny that we live in this world. So now the question that
arises is where did this world come from?
So if I was to ask you, where did this world come from? What can you
trace it back to? Generally people, people trace it back to
what? The Big Bang, as though that is the cause for everything. Okay,
we can agree with a big bang, a big bang took place with all of
the with all of the pressures and all of the forces that were
around, suddenly they came together, there was a big bang,
and it inspired the universe. Okay, fine. There's no, we don't
have to reject that. However, question is, who caused the Big
Bang? How did that happen? And how did it happen in such a way that
it created this beautiful universe around us? That is the question,
you can't just go to the Big Bang and stop there and say, we've got
the answer here. Right? The Big Bang is just a an intermediate
phase. Right? That is all it is, who created the Big Bang? Who had
everything come together in such a fine tuned way. So now, without
going too much into that there's a number of perspectives about
whether God exists or doesn't exist? If he does exist, then what
is his function in the world today? So let us understand that
just in case we have something wrong, and we can clarify it. So
firstly, you've got the group that is completely atheist that there
is no concept of God. Right? Everything is just here. Now we'll
get to the question about how this world was created later, right
about what atheists think how the world was created. We'll look at
that a bit later. So firstly, we've got the atheists. Next,
we've got the agnostics. agnostics are people who don't necessarily
deny God, but haven't found him yet. So we have to keep looking.
Right? We have to keep looking. Now, don't think that these are
new ideas. In fact, agnostics have probably existed, probably longer
than atheists. Right? Because in Arabic, we call them cytidine
TAFTA Zanni Rahim Allah, he's got a book called The shorthold aka
it, right? Several, it was written about seven or 800 years ago.
And in there he does discusses a particular group called the Law at
the Ria.
The I don't know us.
I don't know. Like, who created it? I don't know. Do you notice?
Do you exist? I don't know. We have to keep asking questions.
Man, the world has been asking questions for centuries. I mean,
since recorded Greek history, Hellenistic period, you know,
people have been working on the metaphysics of this world. And you
think nobody's come with a viable theory until now, in these 1000s
of years. What do you expect to come by tomorrow, think science is
going to tell you this.
So they are agnostics. Now there's a another group. I don't know how
big the group is. But there's one individual at least who's given
another alias called possible lists,
which is a bit better than agnostics. I think that at least
we agree that is a possibility. You know, subhanAllah there's a
reason for all of this. There's a reason for all of this. Your
insight wants you to believe because to believe in God is a
very natural thing. Because every single human being every single
one of us has experienced Allah. What do I mean by that? I don't
mean in the Christian sense, but you must experience Jesus Christ.
I don't mean in that sense, right? Because if you experienced Jesus
Christ and you will believe, right, no, that's not what I'm
talking about. I'm talking about something that Allah subhanaw
taala mentions in the Quran.
What is a heart or a book? I mean, Benny Adam in the hood in the
reata, whom was Heather Humala and fusi him allow us to be Rob become
Carlu Bella Shahina and Dakota yo multi Hurmati in Hakuna and Ha ha
if you mean
And remember the time when your Lord extracted the progeny of Adam
Alayhis Salam, when Allah created Adam, he then extracted extracted
in his life extracted. Adams life, Ali Salam is entire progeny,
everybody that was to come until they have judgment. And then he
manifested Himself to them. Allah revealed Himself to them in how
when I don't understand how we can't know how, but it was an
experience that we've all had. And he then said, untie your Lord. And
we all said, but of course you are, there was no need to deny it.
Right? This is so that on the Day of Judgment, Allah says in the
Quran, you will cannot say that, Oh, we didn't know we were
unaware. Because only the objection will be reminded in this
world, we're not reminded we are we're not we're not reminded of
that experience as in we're not showing a flashback of it. I mean,
some people have professed to remember it. Anybody here?
Pouring remembers that experience? Does anybody remember being in
their mother's womb?
Does anybody deny that? Right? So at the end of the day, just
because you don't remember something, though, you believe in
it?
You know, subhanAllah, there are skeptics in the world. Consider to
be extreme skeptics. They will challenge you that I you your
parents child.
I've got a birth certificate. What proof is that you could have made
one up?
Isn't that true, though?
But we take these things for granted. We have to stop at some
level of proof. They say no, this is not proof. What's the proof?
Man? Right. So you get a lot of weird people in the way you get a
lot of different thoughts in the world. There has to be some
standard that we must stop. So anyway, this experience we have
all had, right? We've all had this experience of seeing Allah subhana
wa Tada. Allah in this world reminds us through the prophets
and through his divine books that look, this is what you must do,
there is a God and then he also gives us an actual that's why
according to mount Hanifa, a number of theologians, even if
a prophet has not come to you, no knowledge of No book, no
revelation of any profit has come to you. Just merely by your
rational intellect, your actual, you must believe that there is
only one God. Why? Because everything in the world points
towards that.
Because we know from a worldly Perez Allah says going low kind of
fee Hema Lita tune in LA Allahu La facilita. Allah gives a simple
example. He said, Look, just imagine you've got a local Masjid.
Right? You have one director, when you have too many devotees, the
Masjid is messed up. Have you seen that? That's why we have problems
in mustards in communities, committees. When everybody tries
to be a boss, you have a problem. When you don't listen to one
person who's a knowing and a talented and a capable individual.
You have that everywhere. So Allah says that in the universe, if
there were to be more than one God, a multiplicity of gods, the
heavens and the earth would be in chaos. And yet we see that they're
not in chaos, hence that.
That tells us that signifies that there's only one Creator and in
everything, it tells us the same thing. A poor, a normal. Bedouin
was asked about God. And he said, Look, when I see droppings, I know
a camera has gone past. When I see footsteps I know people have
passed. So this entire creation, how is it possible that it could
have come from nothing? Without a creator? Once Imam Abu Hanifa as
many of you may know, not know this, that Imam, Abu Hanifa we
know him for his jurisprudence and his faith and mosyle. Before that,
though, before he even went into this area, he was a businessman.
And he used to he was a theologian, he used to deal with
Aqeedah belief issues. On one occasion he was
he was approached by a number of people who questioned the belief
in God. And he, he said, they said, We want to ask you some
questions. He said, Just Just wait, I've got a really difficult
issue somebody has given me that I need to figure it out first. So
I'm really occupied right now. So listen, what is the matter, said,
You know what they told me that there is a ship, right? It works
on its own. It fills up on its own, you know, the stuff gets put
in there alone. And then it comes to the other side and then unloads
everything, I mean, nowadays a smart ship, it's a possibility,
right? But in those days, that was impossible for them to understand.
Right? And, anyway, so he says, they're telling me all about this,
and they're telling me that, you know, how can I understand this?
I'm trying to figure this out. And you know what they said? They said
that simple, that's absurd. That's impossible. How can that even be
possible? So then he said, Exactly. That's what the issue is.
How can this and if you can't agree that a ship can do this on
its own? How can this entire world work on its own without a designer
and a controller and
then they just keep silent. Right? So these are the simple ways of
responding to these things. Is that a simple ways of responding
to these things?
So now what what we're talking about here is that if we just look
at the universe now, and we were discussing the various different
groups approach, so we have the atheist who completely reject God
anyway. So this atheist must have come up sorry, these, this earth
must have come up from a from a different source, which we'll
discuss later. We have, as I said, the agnostics we have the so
called possibilities or possibility, yes, possible lists.
And then you have those who believe in creation, the theists
who believe in God, right now, we are part of those. However,
there's a number of opinions in that as well. There's one group
who would say that, yes, God created the world. And then he's,
he's resting now. He's passive. He no longer controls everything. He
has given the ability in a knife to cut the bad example. Right? We
always using violent examples, it seems right.
But you understand what I mean? He gives the fire the ability to
burn, he has got the paracetamol to calm you down and to take your
pain away. You get it. So everything has an intrinsic
ability to do what it's supposed to do is not God who then allows
it to do it each time he is put the ability in and then he's gone.
Right? He's passive now.
Is that our belief? No, our belief is a lot more complex. Mashallah.
A lot more rich? We believe that no, God, yes, he created
everybody. And then he has linked certain effects to certain causes.
So the cutting of a knife is linked to the knife, the fire and
heat is linked to burning and heat is linked to fire.
And every other effect is linked to its cause. But he is the one
who every single time and instance every single occasion, he allows
it and permits it. I jeep.
Can you believe that? That is so complex, but that's what we
believe we want our God to be that rich. And where do we get this
from? We get it from the Quran.
And that is why we see that sometimes fire does not burn, like
the fire of Ibrahima is on did not burn. If fire fire was
intrinsically to burn, you think Ibrahim Edison would have survived
in that fire? You know how hot that fire was, how intense it was,
that they couldn't even go close to throw him in there had to
literally build a catapult to throw him inside. That's how that
fire was. And do you remember the story of Ibrahim or Islam again,
he takes a knife to his son's throat and Try as he might, he
thinks maybe because he's seeing him that's why he the knife
doesn't work he can't cut. So then he turns him around, and he still
can't cut. What happened to the knife. The stomach system is a
natural system that you and I if we put something in our stomach,
goodbye, right? It's going to take care of it, the bile and the
functions of the stomach, the everything within the whole
system, and Allah has placed us on goals goes into the mouth of the
the whale the fish and what happens? Allah tells it look, this
one is special, you don't touch this one, and it stops
functioning. I mean, there are so many, literally so many examples
of this, so many examples of this, when he wants it, it doesn't have
to work. When he wants it, it doesn't have to work.
And there are so many instances of these things. However, on a normal
basis to make the world predictable. These things happen
as cause and effect. Otherwise, if everything was left to chance,
when I take my next step, am I going to move forward or not? Can
you imagine how difficult that life would be? So we predict
things. We predict things. And unfortunately most of our belief
is not so strong. For example, when we take paracetamol isn't our
belief that this person who is going to benefit us who thinks
about Allah then
do you understand when you're feeling sleeping, you drink a cup
of coffee and a strong or a Red Bull? Right? And you believe this
Red Bull is going to do this for you. It's Allah is just he's kept
a connection between the two wishes allows to play its parts.
But if you want sometimes you can take 10 Red boards nothing's gonna
happen to you'll get you'll get you'll get messed up. Right? So at
the end of the day, it's up to Allah and the people who have the
word color on him or those who always remember Allah even with
all of these things in place. It's okay.
So now how was the world created?
Some people we believe as Muslims and many others, they believe that
the world was created what they call x near Hilo.
from nothing,
right? Allah doesn't need anything to create something from he says
can be, and is done. Right. That's what we believe.
The universe as we see it, isn't it very complex, we haven't even
figured out most of it yet. We discover new things and new
processes, new connections within our quantum physics every day, the
physics, physics, physicists are working very hard. In the various
university in the world today in the various laboratories to try to
make some sense of this world. Well, we got a number of things
understood. But there's still so much that is an n, that is not yet
understood. Right? This is just the world we live in, forget the
other planets, forget that strong me. Right, you can understand a
complex this is. So now,
if we just look at the way this universe is so beautifully tuned,
and so complex ly put together, the scientists have looked at
this. And they've looked at the calculations of the numbers that
are involved in making sure this world could remain existent,
because they've looked at the forces of keeping the heavens and
the earth together in a particular orbit to let things function,
right amount of oxygen, right amount of nitrogen and all of the
other gases. That's why other planets are uninhabitable because
they don't have the right amount, the gravity, the pull is of a very
specific amount, because if it was any more or any less, we'd be
either flying around our place, or we will be able to walk very fast,
right? This is just the perfect, perfect amount. If you go to the
moon, you're kind of flying around, right? You can just jump
and there's no gravity, other places like on Jupiter, you'd be
laid down like lead, you couldn't move because the gravity is too
strong. It's the perfect earth that Allah created. Right? Was
this random chance? Is the question was this just randomly
things were flying around in the universe? They came together and
bang, Big Bang? And suddenly you had all of this? How do you
explain the earth? How do you explain this world is the
question. Now, if you ask the atheists, because the believers,
they generally say God created, then they differ as to whether
he's still in charge or not, that's a different issue. Let's
forget that for a while. Right? Today, what we want to discuss is
very simply,
what are the possibilities of the creation of the world? Like,
through across the board? What are the possibilities? first
possibility is what I said random generation, they call it, we call
it random generation, meaning all of these forces just came together
in this such perfect way that it created this beautiful world. What
is the possibility of this happening?
It's like, I get a number of letters. You know, your kids play
with letters. And you know, you have these magnet letters, box of
them. And I throw it down.
And it spells out. Derby is a beautiful city or town.
Let's just say I've got 1000 letters, individual letters in a
box, and I throw him down. And he says Darby is a beautiful city.
What do you think is the probability of that?
factorial? Exactly, you could work it out. You could work it out, you
could take the number of letters you have, right? And see what the
possibility of the combination of words that right. But isn't it
very close to zero?
When you've got the whole world, and literally the billions of
various different forces and things that have to come together,
it's much greater than this. Now for that to just randomly suddenly
come into a world? What's the body close to zero? So even the
scientists today are saying no, there has to be something more
than this was the initial answer. Right? But they're seeing that
this is you cannot pass it by this is just too strong. Right? To be
in this is just so random, that you just can't agree with this, or
you did you understood this point, this is important to know this.
Okay. Second, some of these biologists, right, they're trying
to use evolution for the creation of this world. Now, while we can
say that species in the world have evolved, and there's no doubt
about that. Now, just as a side point,
we as Muslims are not Christians in our belief towards evolution.
So when somebody asks you about evolution, don't say evolution
haram wrong without even know what the heck it is. Right? Because
Christians say so. Christians have a massive problem with evolution,
at least some Christians do, right? Because there's some kind
of left some of the ideas and because in Genesis, it tells you
that the world was created, what is it 6000 or 7000 6000 years ago?
And because of that, evolution tells you that the
Well, He's much older than that. So it goes against the scripture,
and hence you can't accept evolution. So the whole thing is
that deal, right? Whereas with Muslims, we don't have a 6000 year
limit, right? Our universe can be much older, we don't have that
problem, right? So, in fact, for us, we have other medicinal being
60 cubits. That's 60 arm limbs, which is about half a meter is
each qubit. That means about 30 meters tall. Hence, the animals
being the similar size is not far fetched. Why would they be small
animals, when you got big human beings, so dinosaurs, etc, all of
that is for though dinosaurs maybe before human beings, Allah knows
best, right? But we don't have a problem with any of this. We don't
have a problem that, you know, the only thing we have a problem with,
is how do humans come from?
Exactly. Right. We just kind of agree with that. Right? So
otherwise general evolution in the world. It's not a it's not a big
problem, many aspects of it, there's only some aspects of it,
which are an issue. Anyway, that's a separate issue I'm not going to
talk about right now. They try to say that the world evolved from
something still doesn't answer the question, though. Richard Dawkins,
now, when they found the first one is a bit of an absurd idea to say
random generation, they've tried to say that now it's the favorite
this these new scientists, now, they're trying to favor this,
because, you know, atheists are finding it difficult to agree with
the random generation idea. However, what they have to
understand is that biology in which evolution is taught and
studied, is very different from physics and cosmology. Right? The
world and its matter, and everything around it is to do with
physics and cosmology. It's got nothing to it biology, how do you
put a biological understanding onto that? Right? You can't have a
bio biologist trying to super impose his theories on a
completely different field. Right. Also, the main thing, though,
besides all of that, is there's no evidence
that the universe has evolved from something. And at the end of the
day, you'd have to find evidence for that. But still, what began
it, what began? Where does it come from, even if we traced as I
mentioned, right, in the beginning, everything to the Big
Bang, who caused it to occur in such a perfect way that it did,
that if there was just one fraction, one calculation just
slightly off, it wouldn't have worked? It wouldn't. And Allah
tells us about this in the Quran, that you see the earth, and the
heavens, in such sync together, but without any pillars, no, with
pillars that you cannot see. And they know that there are, I mean,
through science, you will know that there are pillars of force
that are keeping the heavens together. Allah says in the Quran,
that Allah turned to the heavens and the earth. And he said,
what's the verse in the dough and Oh, Chiron come together, either
willingly or unwillingly. They said, Call it a day now. In we
will come together willingly. Allah just described some of this
in the Quran, the book, the Quran is not a book of science, by the
way, but it has some scientists scientific realities. I remember
once I was at a at a conference and this individual came was
written a book on science in the Quran. He said, You know, the
Quran is a book of science, select what you mean, you know, people,
everybody kind of says Quran is a book of this in the Quran is
bigger politics, you know, those politician, Quran is a book apart,
I will come on and Quran is a divine scripture for the
inspiration and guidance of man. Yes, it holds certain scientific
realities in there. But don't make the book Khurana book of science
and demote it, right?
Anyway, the third option then, if you can't have random selection,
and you can't have evolution of where the world came from, then
the only third possible option is that it was through intelligent
design, completely intelligent masterwork, who Allah the soul
water come, He is the one who configured you. He is the one who
shaped you, who gave you form,
who gave you form, intelligent design, who would change the
situation?
It will as it was pre Bang Theory and align the universe that in the
way it is. Remember, zero plus zero can never be anything.
Zero plus zero can be anything. This is an empirical reality.
Something cannot just come from nothing. Right? That means you
have to believe that there was a beginner, because look, let's just
say that we agreed to the fact that the world exists and
It came from something and generally the shaytaan is going to
make us question Okay, you Where did you come from? You came from
your parents? Where did this come from? It's Olympus. So Olympus is
the one who designed this. When and you go back then he asks you
okay, if God created if the world was created by God, then who
created God?
Now let's look at possibilities again.
One idea is that God
was created by God to
okay, then the question arises, who created God to? God? Three?
What about God? Three, God, four. Now, how far back Are we gonna go?
We're just gonna keep going on it's absurd, right? It doesn't get
you to anything is the same as having, you know, it's the same as
being created by anybody. It's not doesn't make a difference. And
according to all rationalists, this is absurd. So that's not
possible. Okay. God, one created by God to you're going in the same
way, right? No, no, no. Where did God to come from God one created.
Now, that's circular reasoning. You can't agree with that either.
Right? That's again, another absurdity. That's why any thinking
individual deep down has to agree with the fact that God is the
beginning. There, you can call him God. They call them all sorts of
things. People who came to this realization, for example, the
Hellenistic philosophers, they say, he's the unmoved mover.
Right, he moves everything else. He has been unmoved. Hence, he is
the beginning. The first non contingent being the first being,
right, these are various different names that they give to him.
You know, if we look at the world at this time,
and this goes back to what I said in the beginning, that Allah
subhanaw taala in the Quran, so boldly just establishes that he is
one and he doesn't give any proof of him existing directly. Right?
He just talks about oneness, oneness, oneness, don't believe in
all of these other gods, they can't do anything for you. Right?
They don't benefit you. They don't harm you. They don't even eat the
food you put out there, right, nothing can happen. It's only God.
Right?
In this time in this world, we have what's the world population
today?
7.2. How many Christians in the world?
I think that's quite liberal as well, right? I thought it was
about 2 billion. But I mean, if you think 7.2, and I thought it
was six or 2.7 from 2.22 works. Anyway, let's just take the more
conservative, 2 billion, how many Muslims in the world
it's about less than 1.7 1.8. That's my reading. Just India
alone has about one point 100 90 million, just India alone.
Pakistan has about 160 or 70. Bangladesh has about 151 60,
China, Indonesia, and you know, just you know, mashallah Muslims
are producing, right?
London has a million Muslims. One in every eight people in London is
a Muslim, Oslo one in every 10 person is a Muslim.
Right? And this is some of the big cities of the world that you're
speaking about. Right? And if you go to Oxford Street in London,
it's one in every four people is a Muslim spending money from the
Middle East. Right? And they loved, right. They're loved a lot
because mashallah they run the economy, right? Anyway. So we got
about 2 billion Christians, about 1.8 billion Muslims. And we
haven't even counted the other theists like Jews and others, but
already we've got nearly 4 billion out of seven. The majority of the
world are believers, in a God, whatever they call that God,
over 50% already, and this is without even with this is just
counting two of the main religions. And that's at this time
when atheists are so rampant, they're militant.
Right, they are putting people down, they are challenging people,
they're very charismatic. The reason is that, just by our very
nature, because of what we experienced with Allah Subhan This
is our belief.
We are predisposed to believing in a god in general. That's why it's
so easy to do that. Have you ever seen a child disbelieve in God?
They find it very easy to accept. And you know, let me just clarify
one thing, there's a hadith of Rasulullah sallallahu which people
misquote Kulu Kulu. Then you will do Alan fitrah. Every offspring is
born on the fitrah let's use that word fitrah. For now, you know
people say everybody born a Muslim.
Every child born a Muslim then you become Christian. Right this is
you know, like every this is like a quote that they have, right?
Everybody is born a Muslim. That's not true. When you say Muslim,
what we mean is somebody who willingly accepts Allah subhanaw
taala and then
accepts to, you know, agree on prayer and so on and so forth,
right?
It doesn't say Muslim, it says fitrah. fitrah means the
primordial nature.
I like to translate it as natural faith.
Then when you become old enough, you have to acquire faith, even if
you're born in a Muslim household when you become of discerning age,
and you say, Yes, Islam is for me. Right? This is my faith, you take
it on, who cares? What happens to your parents afterwards, you
generally take that on as your faith, now it's yours.
So fitrah, I translate is natural faith. And the reason is that
fitrah is that this feed of having experienced this experience with
Allah is there. So it's very naturally easy. It's easy to be a
believer in God, then the Hadith says that their parents had to
make them Jewish Christian, major, and whatever capitalists, would
you call it? Post modernists, whatever else atheists for that
matter, in this day and age. That's, that's, that's, that's
what the Hadith mentions. So it's very easy to be believing in a god
is an essential reality. It's an easy point. And hence, it's there
are people who discredit that idea who refuse the idea who reject
that idea, but they're never a majority of the world. This
incredible pattern of our universe that we see could not have existed
if it was even just slightly different. cosmologists and
physicists agree that the possible randomness
of this world occurring is infinitesimally small, it is so
small that it's, it's nothing.
So now the question is, then, why don't people they did they did a
study of scientists, I think in Yale and Harvard.
And they, in that first study, they found out that most
scientists rejected God. However, there were some flaws within that.
So they did another study two years afterwards. And they found
out that the ratio of believers and non believers of theists and
non theists within scientists was the same as reflected the same as
the general humanity. Right? And
the question now is that when somebody really thinks about these
things, they should come to this realization. So why don't they why
don't they believe in a God than
before could be a number of reasons. Everybody's has his own
unique reason. One is they probably had a very bad experience
with belief. And a lot of it is comes from Christians and Jews, or
primarily Christians, actually, they've had a very bad experience
with them. That's why if you actually read the famous atheist
of the past, they had less problem with Islam than they had with
Christianity, but they didn't really study Islam well enough.
And they just think all religions do the same. So if they have a
problem with Christianity, I think Islam must have the same problem.
But we have stark differences very different. Our job is to present
our faith to people in the right way. So that could be one reason.
Another reason is that, you know, if you stop believing in a god,
then you have to believe in a religious system. You have to
believe in laws, halal haram boundaries. And what does that do
to you? It curbs your freedom. Is it easy being a Muslim?
It's not easy. It's it's expensive. It's difficult. Your
meat is more expensive than normal meats. Right? It's expensive being
a Muslim, right? You can't do this. I can't do that. Very
difficult for somebody who's had no by bounds. No, no limits to
then suddenly stop being having limits. Selfishness of the human
being could mean many reasons. Many reasons. One to avoid
responsibility.
What I would say to Muslims, if you have questions about Islam,
and these questions, you are being spoon fed by atheist sources. Turn
around, open your mind and ask similar questions, objective
questions to them as well. Why do you take certain things as
fundamentals agreed upon no questions asked when it comes from
a certain group and you challenge others with it.
Turn around, do the same thing if you really want to be objective.
Right? You have to be fair with this if this is what you want to
do, if you want to challenge
so
one thing though, is that an atheist can really easily become a
Muslim or believer, you know how because they've got half the
Kalima
law.
There is no God not the half the Kadima, half of half of the Karima
right. Half of the first half of the Kadima, there is no God,
they've got that, right. They've made all sorts of weird models of
God and they've said, This can't be a god. This can't be a god,
this can't be a God. They have to find Allah. Then you will
There is no God except Allah. May Allah subhanho wa Taala grant us a
tool for you to understand that, may Allah subhanaw taala grant us
Tofik to help people rather than turn them off. Really, this is
what the issue is. For many of us, we turn people off because of our
cheating habits and our we just don't interact well with people.
We haven't learned to live among non Muslims in the right way.
Right, we just look at people as gunners. And we just think we are
the best and there's nothing else. I'm not saying everybody thinks
that way. But there are things we have responsibility towards our
neighbors, and the people on the street Masjid have
responsibilities not just to create a place for prayer. Right,
and create a nice peaceful, we'll do with you know, heated floors,
right, and all the rest of it and maktab and madrasahs there's a lot
of others because we teach our children Mother Teresa, but
they're going to be exposed to a lot of this if we don't educate
and make the try to make the society understand who we are.
Right? We're living in one of those times may Allah subhanaw
taala grant us the Tofik I'll just make a quick die in sha Allah.
Allahu mandocello Monica salaam, the Bharatiya Janata with a chrome
Allah who may or you have a younger automatic and a stuffy
Allah who may or Hana Yama and Allah Allah Allah Subhana Allah in
Konami, nobody mean Subhanallah Hilarion island will herb just
Allahu Allah, Mohammed Amma Hua Hello, O Allah we ask You for Your
compassion or Allah we ask you for your gentleness of Allah we ask
You for Your forgiveness of Allah we ask you for strength of Allah,
we ask that you remove our weaknesses and grant a strength of
Allah grant a strength in our belief in our worship, oh Allah in
our faith, oh Allah in our character, Oh Allah, we ask you
for forgiveness from all of those sins that have that has brought
misery to us. Oh Allah, we ask you forgiveness from all of those sins
that have turned father against son, son against father, Oh ALLAH
that have turned husbands against wives and wives against husbands
of Allah. We ask you for forgiveness of Allah, we ask You
for Your Mercy. Your mercy is constantly flowing, the rivers of
Your mercy are constantly flowing. We ask for even a single drop of
this. Oh Allah, we ask that You grant us the Kalima on our
deathbed of Allah we ask that You grant us true understanding of you
and our faith of Allah, we ask that You grant us understanding of
Allah, take away the ignorance from us, Oh Allah, keep us away
from ignorant acts and behavior of Allah. Don't make us instruments
and tools of people rejecting our faith of Allah don't make us of
those who drive people away from our faith. Oh Allah, we ask that
you keep us firm on our faith, and you help assist and assist us to
help others understand our faith. Oh Allah, these are times in which
we need your assistance, we always need your assistance. But Allah
protect us and our children and our progeny until the Day of
Judgment, from all of the evils that are out there. Oh Allah, day
by day our challenges seem to be expanding. Oh Allah increasing, we
ask you, we ask You for strength, fortification of Allah and above
all protection of Allah grant us the Karim Allah, Allah Illallah on
our deathbed and our Allah we ask that you make all of the stages of
the Hereafter easy for us. And Allah grant us the grant, grant us
janitor for DOS, oh Allah all of those who've assisted in making
this program today. In convening this program today, Allah grant
them just grant them great reward all of those who have established
this masjid and the other massagin Oh Allah, the first generation of
Allah grant them great Jezza if they've left this world, grant
them illumination in their graves. And Oh Allah, if they are if they
are still alive, then Allah grant them great him. Great, great,
baraka and great Tofik to do many more good things. And Oh ALLAH for
the next generation of Allah grant us the ability to continue this
work, to build on this work, and Allah to take it further to deal
with the challenges of our time. Our like, accept this from us,
except those who are sitting here and Oh Allah, don't let any of us
turn away without being forgiven on this day. Oh Allah, we ask you
one final thing. You send your abundant blessings on our
messenger Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, and that you
grant us his company in the hereafter. Subhana rahbek Rabina
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