Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Imam Azam Abu Hanifa Conference University of Kashmir

Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera
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The speakers discuss the conflicting views on kissing and kissing women, including the lack of support from the western world and the lack of support from the western world in the past. They also discuss common mistakes made by people following a method and the importance of following a specific method in academic faith. The conversation also touches on the use of weak Hadith and the importance of finding a strong Hadith in one's opinion. The speakers provide examples of people becoming influenced and becoming a minor minor minor within a school, and emphasize the importance of understanding the Hadith and the reliable love of the praised school.
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Bismillah al Rahman al Rahim Al hamdu lillahi Hamden cathedral

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even Mubarak in V houbara. canal de Gama your Hebrew buena vida

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de la jolla who am in a word or salat wa salam O Allah say util

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Habibollah Mustafa SallAllahu Taala Allah you aren't. He was

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Safi about a carousel limiter Sleeman Kathira en la only been a

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mother and father Allah with a balaclava Tirana for Quran Majeed

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Belle who is a unit on face to do the Latina Oh to learn how to be

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Tina it'll avoid the moon. So the cola will Aleem. My dear respected

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elders I want to and our friends here I want to actually thank

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monarch amatola So I wish I could actually speak to you in Kashmiri

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unfortunately I can't it sounds of Ronnie to me. It sounds like

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Pashto to me. But it sounds really nice. I wish I could learn it one

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day inshallah.

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Hopefully you can understand English anyway, that's what I'm

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going to be speaking to you in. What I want to mention today,

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mashallah, you've heard many great pearls of wisdom already. What I

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want to mention to you today is that in the time of Rasulullah,

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sallallahu alayhi wa sallam,

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whenever anybody had a question, it was very simple. They would go

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to Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam and ask him, What is the

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answer to this issue this question, and he would either

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respond to them straight away, or he would wait for revelation of

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ye. And then after that he would give them an answer.

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After the time of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi salam during the

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time of the Sahaba and the time of the terbutaline because the

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Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam was no longer in the dunya

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whenever people had a question, they would then go to the sahaba.

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And then after that, that beam, what happened is, some of the

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Sahaba had heard certain things from the Prophet salAllahu alayhi

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wasallam, another Sahabi had heard maybe something slightly different

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about the same issue from the Prophet sallallahu alayhi

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wasallam.

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So there seems to be an apparent difference of opinion. I'll give

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you a simple example.

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One of the examples is that once a hobby relates that when a person

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is fasting, it is not permissible. You should not husband should not

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kiss his wife.

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And another Sahabi relates that the Prophet sallallahu Sallam

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allowed that to happen. In one case, the prophesy Lawson said you

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shouldn't In another case, he said it's okay it can be done. So, you

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have what seems to be two conflicting durations? Which one

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is right? Which one is correct? How do you deal with this? So they

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are both right. The Prophet sallallahu sallam said both

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things, but the one answer which he said that you should not kiss

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your wife, this was for somebody who is young, newly married,

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because if that person kissed his wife, then maybe he would not be

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able to withhold himself and he would carry on maybe break his

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break his fasting.

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Those who are probably newly married or not married, may

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understand what I'm saying.

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Do you guys have any response? So do you guys understand what I'm

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saying? Yes. Okay. Hamdulillah. Now, the other person who said

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that it's okay for you to kiss your wife, this was an older

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person, he's a veteran in marriage, he can kiss his wife is

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no problem. What we mean by kisses on the cheek or something like

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this, nothing more than that. So this is how the Allama they looked

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at these conflicting narrations, and they tried to provide a way to

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understand them and the fatwa in the situation. So you had the

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likes of Imam Abu Hanifah Rahmatullah Hara Lee, then Imam

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Shafi Imam, Malik Rahmatullah in Madina. Munawwara in Abu Hanifa

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was in Kufa and you had Imam Muhammad didn't know humble you

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had Imam Ozeri. In Syria, you had late Hypno salad in Egypt,

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Rahmatullah here I name you had numerous other great other ma who

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are doing this work of trying to explain the Quran and Sunnah to

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the people to respond to them. Slowly slowly, though, within

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150 200 years, 200 years or so, the OMA eventually concentrated on

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just the form of hubs, the mud hub of Imam poverty, of Lathe of New

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South of Jaffa sodic of Imam Ozeri, Tao, the vahidi etc. They

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all died out, they did not continue. It was only these four

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that continued. Now, if we just to look at Imam Abu Hanifa quickly,

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Rahmatullah here are they?

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The way Imam Abu Hanifa story is actually a very inspirational

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story. And I say this because it gives many of us a lot of hope.

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Mr. Will Hanifa Rahmatullah did not start studying

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He was a young boy. He was a businessman, a very successful

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trader, he used to sell plots. He was very shrewd. While he was a

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businessman. He had developed a good understanding of the Islamic

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Aqeedah. And before he studied fic, and mosyle, and jurisprudence

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at all, before he studied it, he was proficient and an expert in

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aqidah. That's why he himself says that more than 20 times I went to

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Basra. He was in Kufa, Kufa and Basra were two cities that were

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established in the time of Oman, Qatar, Radi Allahu Anhu brand new

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cities, right for the Muslims who had gone there, the Sahaba, etc.

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So Basra was a place that was always problematic. I don't know

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if you have a place like this in India, one city where lots of

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Philippi have come out of lot of sectarians come out of there's

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just a natural propensity within the people that they have this

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idea of always debating people. So in Basra, in Basra, you had

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various groups of the martyrs zeolites and of the Shia and

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raffia. And many, many other groups, Imam Abu Hanifa said I

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went there over 20 times to debate with the people and Al

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Hamdulillah. He managed to convince them before this was

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before he studied any at all. This was while he's a businessman. So I

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see that I'm sure there's many business people sitting here. If

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you think that you can't do anything, look at the example of

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Abu Hanifa. While he is there, he's also doing he's also giving

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service to the deen of Allah subhanaw taala. One day somebody

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came and asked him a question, a fifth key question. And he says,

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Well, I don't know the answer. He says Go and ask him. I didn't know

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it'd be silly man. ravintola Haley, who was teaching in the

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masjid?

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And when you find the answer, come and let me know as well because I

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want to know as well. So when she came back when the person who had

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questioned him came back and gave him the response, he says, Hollis

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let me drop all of this. And he went and he sat in Hama did not be

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Solomon's merciless, and he started studying fic. Now he's

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such an intelligent genius that Imam Malik when he when Mr. Abu

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Hanifa went to Madina, Munawwara and he met Imam Malik Rahmatullah.

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They had a meeting that he came out and then somebody asked him

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Are Malik Rahmatullah Haiti? What do you think of him because

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everybody has heard of this great man from Kufa, who has all of

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these, this great fic so now they all wanted to know who is this

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person? So Imam Malik says that right Roger and lokala Mojave

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Surya de Robin la cama be her jetty, which means that I've just

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seen a man who, if he claims that this pillar, any one of these

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pillars is made of gold, he would be able to prove it to you. He was

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such an intelligent genius with all of his righteousness and

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piety. So eventually, then he excelled in thick as well, before

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he was an expert in aqidah. Then he became an expert in fic And

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subhanAllah, then we know the rest of the story because the half of

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the Ummah today is basically following that, following that Now

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why does half of the Ummah follow the Hanafi? School? Was it a

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conspiracy? Was it a plan, it was no plan at all. This was just an

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organic reaction, that some of the best understanding of FIP,

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especially through the abovesaid empire, especially through the

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Abbas empire, whenever they would establish all these and judges in

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different parts of the realm and their dominion, they would

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generally choose Hanafi, Qaddafi Hanafi all these and Hanafi judges

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who then would have Hanafi 50s, and thus it spread, then of

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course, after that you had number of other dynasties. And then after

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that you had the earth money caliphate. And thus, about 50% of

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the world is, is generally throughout. I mean, if you just

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look at the Indian subcontinent, Pakistan, you know, we were

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talking about 400 500 million Muslims just around in this area.

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And then after that, you look in China, there's about 100 million

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Muslims there who are Hanafis and you know that my point is not to

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give you statistics today, right. I don't want to bore you as a

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another statistics lesson. We're here to talk about him Abu Hanifa

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so Rahmatullah Haley. So now, what I want to mention is a few very

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important things that I want to try to answer certain common

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questions, quite common confusions rather that people have with

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following a madhhab or following certain aspects of a Muslim. I

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think hopefully that may be a bit a bit useful. Inshallah, first and

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foremost, let's explain one thing.

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There's a famous Hadith as related by Imam Abu Tao, the mom tell me

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the numerous other narrators about the Ummah, the prophets of Allah,

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some saying this ummah will split into how many sects 73 sects,

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every one of them will be in the fire except one or only one of

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them will be saved. There's different wordings of that

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narration. First and foremost.

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72 And then the one.

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So, what this is speaking about is this is speaking about not a

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difference in

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difference in mosyle difference in jurisprudence, it's not speaking

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about that, because anybody in history in the Classical Period,

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whoever differed when it came to Messiah, they never did the fear

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of each other. They never condemned each other to cover the

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Shafi is never said Hanafi psychother Hanafi is never said

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Maliki is a Kaffir. They all said this was the other between them.

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Now mark these words, this was the other between the MME ra II sorry,

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yeah, the middle Hopper, what are you a hopper? Yeah, terminal swab,

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which means that my opinion is correct. I mean, of course, if I'm

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going to follow an opinion, I must believe it's correct. Otherwise,

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why should I follow it? So based on the evidence is that I have my

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opinion is correct. But your opinion is my opinion is correct,

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and it has the possibility of being wrong because it's an

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endeavor and an HD heard. It's not. It's not a definitive, it's

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not definitively in the Quran, these are all on the HDR the

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issues on the peripheral issues. My opinion is correct, has the

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possibility of being wrong. Your opinion is incorrect, but has the

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possibility of being right. This was the other end of Hamdulillah.

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Today, I have many Maliki friends, many Shafi friends, we'll have a

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healthy, friendly debate, but we love each other. And that's how it

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should be that's how the OMA was for 1300 years. Until the

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beginning of this century. Nobody rejected mother hubs until the

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beginning of this century. And I'll give you an example of this I

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want you to take part in this wake you up a bit.

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Can you I want I want the names of five of the famous agreed upon

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scholars that first come to your mind from after the time of Imam

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Buhari radicalized so after the two hundreds, right anything from

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380 to two before 100 years ago. I want you to give you the names of

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five great scholars. Let's start Come on give me one name quickly.

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Imam Ghazali Mashallah. My favorite number two

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Sorry.

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No shall will you Allah Yes, that's that's Indian second we can

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take that class. No problem shall with you. Law number three.

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Sorry.

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Even though Tamia just like a law here, number four.

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Sorry, Imam Razi. Okay, number five.

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Sheikh Abdul Qadir jeelani, just a common law here and you'll have to

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remind me about the Mughal. Now these are five scholars that the

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whole world knows about. They accepted scholars, there's no

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question about them, they accepted scholars. Now let's analyze each

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one Imam Hassan Ali was a great Shafi jurist. He wrote books on

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Shafi or seul, great Shafi jurists who was number two,

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share with you Allah sha Allah, Allah is supposed to be Hanafi we

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all know that. No doubt about that. Number three, it was able to

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take me around to La Hypno Tamia Rahmatullah. They have a limited

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Tamia. He was a humbly scholar. He was a humbling scholar. His father

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was a humble scholar, his grandfather was a humbly scholar

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and ajeeb This is a one family were all the son, the father and

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the grandfather. They wrote one book together in a school.

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In OSU, yes, they had differences with the humbly school. They were

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humbly but they had certain differences with the humbly school

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and that is permissible for them. They are much the hidden in there,

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right? They have the right in the Hanafi school. We have people like

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Imam bahagi Rahmatullah the great Hanafi scholar, but he had some

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differences with the rest of the Anopheles that's fine, but in

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general, he followed everything of the Hanafi school. You look at the

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Shafi school, same thing you have one great scholar like Imam

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Ghazali Imam Edna Hydral as Kalani Rahmatullah era, they were Chevy's

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but they inserted mosyle few few, they had some tougher rouda they

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had some isolated opinions of their own, ignore Abdullah Maliki,

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same thing. He was Maliki but had certain tougher road and that's

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fine from which the head level is nothing wrong with that, but

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again, it no Tamia is a humbly scholar. Number four was who who

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was after that. Imam Razi. Imam Razi, was a great Shafi scholar,

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and finally it was Imam Abdul Qadir jeelani, Rahmatullah Halley

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and he was a humbly scholar. So these are all, every single person

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you will mention, from those centuries, 1200 centuries, they

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were all following a method. They were all following a method. The

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only exception to this was some of the vahidi scholars now with a

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variety ignore hasm a variety. These were literalist, they were

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considered to be separate, but the majority you can bring me any more

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names that you want. It's only in this century that this claim that

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you should not follow a mother. And I say this with all honesty

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and all in I want to I want to under

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Standard in an academic fashion. Firstly, anybody who says that you

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should not follow a mother, let us analyze this idea. This idea you

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shouldn't follow a mother Okay, fine. Today, if I

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if I decide I won't be Hanafi anymore, let me go directly to the

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Quran and the Sunnah. And I will study and I will make and develop

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my own Fick. Okay, so I've developed my own faith. Now, will

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the people who claim that you should not follow a mother? Will

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they accept me? I don't think so. Why will they not accept me,

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because I may not be following the same narrations and Hadith that

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they consider to be sorry, or the fact that they consider to be

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right, that their scholars, their elders of the last 100 years have

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told them is right. It's not about not following them. It's just

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about not following any of the form of hubs and following a fifth

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method, which is just the new model. That's what the idea is,

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it's not that anybody who goes and studies the Quran and Sunnah

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directly, that they will be accepted, not necessarily, because

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it's about a particular manager or an ideology that certain people

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think that is the correct methodology. And everybody should

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just follow that methodology. Now to move on.

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One of the other things that I want to mention is that

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if you mix and match within two month hubs, and say that, okay,

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today, I,

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if you're married person, you just touched your wife, you came,

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you're coming to the masjid. And you you grazed your finger on

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something and you started bleeding.

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And then you decided that now it's solid time my window is broken.

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My window is broken, both according to the handpiece and the

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Sharpies, according to the handpiece is broken, because you

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bled according to the Sharpies, it's broken because you touched

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your wife, right? According to the handpiece, if you touch your wife,

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it doesn't break your womb. And according to the Sharpies, if you

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bleed, it doesn't break you. But the opposite is right. So now this

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person thinks I touched my wife according to 100 Thieves, it

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doesn't break my window, so no problem. Now I blame a blood as

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well, I got no time for will do according to the Shafi is that's

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okay, as well, hello as Bismillah lets me pray them us, right. Now,

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the problem here is the problem here is that you are cheating.

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Right? It's cheating. The reason you're cheating is you're taking a

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result of one methodology, and another result of another

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methodology. And you're mixing the two together. And anybody who's

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academic will understand that, that is just not right, you have

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to go with a single framework, when you analyze anything, you

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have to have one common framework that you have to deal with. If you

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take two different frameworks and you mix them up, it's a confusion.

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Anyway, that may be a bit complicated, but that's not an

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issue. The other point I want to make is that could we have a

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another month up today? You know, is it possible to have another

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month today after the four great Mother's Day of the past? Is it

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possible? technically possible? Well, theoretically it is possible

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theoretically. However, I'll tell you what the problem with it is

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when you today if somebody wanted to start a mud hub, they would

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take all the Quran and all the database of all of the Hadith that

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you know that is available today. And they will say okay, these are

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the Messiah of Salah, these other my side of a socket and so on.

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Now, the problem with this is that they will be based they will be

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basing their madhhab on pure theory only on text. They don't

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have a practical living manifestation of the of the

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Sunnah. What do I mean by this? What I mean by this is Imam Abu

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Hanifah Rahmatullah as was just described by Moses Almanza as

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well, that Imam Abu Hanifa he had he saw Sahaba the people he was

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living with with Tabby and he was a tabby himself. These are the

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people who had inherited the way of Rasulullah sallallahu. How the

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Islam how Islam was, Islam was practiced in Madina Munawwara that

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is what he saw in Kufa. So if you can't, if he couldn't understand

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the Hadith, he would see how it is outside openly being practiced.

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Imam Malik Rahmatullah Howdy, in front of him in front of him, he

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had the anvil of the annual Medina, which means he had the

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practice of the people of Medina, which he considered to be

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evidence, because this was the same practice only 100 years after

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the Prophet salallahu Salam, 150 years, you know, within 150 years

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of the practice, people were working at that time, it was still

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a living tradition. Can you show me any place in the world where

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the Sunnah is practiced, where you can show me how Islam was

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practiced in the way it was practiced.

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Medina Manoa Can you show me anyplace in the world where his

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practice like this today? So if I have all the Hadith at my

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disposal, I will only have text, I will not have any practical

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demonstration. So I will, my mother will be inferior to any of

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the mothers of the past, because those mother hubs, they also took

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practice into consideration. Okay, another point, because of the

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shortness of time I'm trying to, this is a bit of a roller coaster

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ride, but hopefully you will appreciate I do have this in more

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detail on my website zum zum academy.com. There's a full detail

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of this of this on there, which if you're interested, you can look at

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that later. Another question that generally is asked is that there's

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so many weak Hadith, weak dive Hadith that are used by the 100

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views, for example, and Shafi isn't and so on. So why do you

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base your Messiah and your madhhab on weak Hadith? Well, look at this

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Imam Bukhari Rahmatullah. When did he die? He died around 256 Hijiri

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approximately 256 When did Imam Abu Hanifah Rahmatullah they pass

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away? over 100 years before that 150 That's when he passed away.

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The narrator's the Rawi is the narrator's of Hadith that Imam Abu

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Hanifa took from above the narrator's at least two

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generations before Imam Buhari, so it is likely that the hadith is

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saying right now. But then between Imam Abu Hanifa Imam Muhammad

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Allah is time. A week Narrator continues to transmit that hadith

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of Imam Bukhari rejects it.

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Imam Abu Hanifa is taking saturations. But when it gets down

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after one century, the narrator's of the fourth or fifth level, they

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are now weak. That's why I'm Abu Hanifa rejects it. So you would

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have to undergo a really in depth study to really say that these are

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how these were weak at the time of Imam Abu Hanifa Rahmatullahi

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that's why these are complicated issues. Now another thing that I

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want to mention is that Imam Hanifa Abdullah, he said, either

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Sahil Hadith Muhammad Javi if a hadith is sorry, then it is my

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mother. Some of the Imams have known also to say if you see a

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sahih Hadith that goes against my opinion, then throw my opinion

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away and take the sahih Hadith. So now every Tom Dick and Harry,

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every Omer Bakr and Omar, you know, they they think they have

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the ability to do this, who was Imam Abu Hanifa until I speaking

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to when he said this, who was Imam Shafi addressing when he made this

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gave this advice. He was speaking to his students, the other Ma, and

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he was saying, yes, if you find another sahih Hadith after me, and

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you have the right to look at Hadith, because you are more

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Hadith in then you can do this, but am I allowed to do this? Is

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anybody allowed to do this just because somebody tells them you

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you have a sahih Hadith and they don't even know Arabic? They just

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have a translation of Buhari or something like this. Do you

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understand what I'm saying? The complicated procedure here. Right.

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So when he says that if a hadith is so he then dropped my mother

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herb and take the sahih Hadith, he is speaking to his students, the

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other MA The fuqaha, the MaHA the theme, that's who he's speaking

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to, not just anybody on the street. That's another thing. And

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sorry, if I'm going very fast, but I'll say I'll mention another very

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important point.

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I thought a lot. Why do people criticize the Hanafi is for for

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saying that they are Allura II, they are people of opinion, they

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reject Hadith. Why is that? Why do they say that? Now? I did a bit of

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a study and what i This is the conclusion I came to. I'll tell

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you the conclusion I came to

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the conclusion I came to is that the Hanafi Muslim

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Imam Abu Hanifah Rahmatullah his insight was so deep and so

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profound,

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that it was not something that everybody could understand all the

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time.

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It was so deep, that it's so intellectual that not everybody

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would understand it. But when they did understand it, they would

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appreciate it. And then they would be converted. I'll give you an

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example. There was a great scholar called Risa ignore urban isa

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ignore urban Rahula. Here, they, he used to criticize him on

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Muhammad. I don't want to listen to you guys. You guys. You reject

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Hadith. You bring ideas from your own minds and opinions and you

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don't have any backing from Hadith. One day, somebody told

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Look, why don't you sit in the dust and Listen, why don't you sit

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in the class and listen carefully. So one day, he was forced to

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listen and he listened. And then he realized, and then he became a

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great Hanafi scholar, because then he realized, wow, these people

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have very profound understanding and insights. So he became a

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convert in that sense I give you

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Another example Hanafi it first spread from Kufa and Barbuda, its

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spread to Morocco now transaksi Aina above the amu, Darya,

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transacts and also to her son. That's why bulk is a very

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important place where the early Hanafi madhhab developed. It came

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to Egypt, Syria later Amantha how your Abdullah who died in

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approximately 321 or 324 Hijiri. He was from a Shafi background.

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His uncle is you know who his uncle was Imam Mussolini. And you

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know who Imam Hussain is Mr. Musa Nia Abdullah is the main man of

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Imam Shafi. Great Adam. He used to teach Imam to Javi Imam Muhammad

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Abdullah eventually saw some Hanafy books that his uncle was

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consulting, so he started looking at these books as well. And he was

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just so enamored and so effected by the Hanafi way of reasoning

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through the Hadith. Give me a minute,

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give me a minute.

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He was, so, he was so influenced by this that he became a Hanafi.

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He is an abnormal Hanafy within Shafi is Egypt did not have many

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100 views at that time, he is one Hanafi among wala Shafi scholars

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there at the time, why, again he saw the profoundness of thought

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and understanding so many exams. I'll give you another example Imam

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Muhammad a che Bernie Imam Muhammad Shibani was a young man

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when he studied under Mr. Barney Frank Tillery. After Imam Abu

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Hanifa passed away, Imam Muhammad Imam Muhammad was still young. He

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then went to Madina, Munawwara and he studied under who Imam Malik

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the Creekmore had this imam who he studied under him he relates the

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whole book of MATA from Mr. Maryk parameter Lolly, but he still

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stays a Hanafy. Generally, when you study with one teacher, then

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you go to study with another great teacher. You generally sometimes

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people become influenced and they change their thought process. No,

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he stays very much a Hanafy. He relates his own water from Mr.

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Merrick. But then he uses all the generations that are in evidence

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of the Hanafi school and American Hanafi schools are very close

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together in many other many issues anyway, the medina school and the

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cufon school very close, they're very similar. That's another

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example somebody who sees another opinion another way another

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methodology but still gives preference to the Hanafi way. What

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so this My conclusion is that it's the profoundness and deeper depth

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of understanding that is not open to everybody. And that's why they

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initially they say they criticize the Hanafis but when they begin to

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understand then they appreciate it. That's why when the marble

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honey battle, I meant Imam Jaffa sadhika Mr. Barker, one of the two

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he was criticized instead how come you reject the Hadith and you give

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opinions from your right so then when you Malibu I never responded

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to him then he said Masha Allah does not allow here and that is

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clarified. So now

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I'm just going to make a few more points before before we finish.

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One of the examples that are give is what

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what moves the Abdullah amount of myostatin also gave is a very

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interesting account. One of the Malabo Hanifa Hadith teachers was

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Mr. Amash, Mr. Amash, Mr. Amash, when he began to realize that if

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you want to understand and jurisprudence Imam Abu Hanifa is

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very powerful. So he came to ask him a question once and this is

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what he said to him.

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He said to him, What is the answer for this masala this issue? So him

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Abu Hanifa said, my opinion on this matter is such and such. So

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Imam Amash said,

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How do you How did you develop this opinion? Where did you get

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this opinion from? What's your evidence? So you Abu Hanifa said,

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Oh, you report it to us. A Hadith you report it to us from Abu

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salah, who repeat a report from Abu Hurayrah. You also reported us

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from Abu Musa al who reported from Abdullah even muster wouldn't you

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report it from India so reported from Obama's Rhuddlan Saudi or the

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Allah one that Rasul allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said

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such and such and he related the Hadith to him. You also said and

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then he mentioned a number of other generations and atlases and

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said, stop, stop. That's enough. That's enough. That's enough. He

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said, What took me 100 days to relate to narrate to you, you

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repeat it in an instance. And I was not aware that your practice

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was based on the same narrations, the same narrations. Then he said,

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Oh group of jurists of folk Aha, you are you are the physicians.

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Were just the chemists and the pharmacist. This is very important

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to understand. See the Hanafi madhhab what they what the Hanafis

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did was they said we don't see the point of just no

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Writing Hadith for the sake of preservation, the way you were

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going to preserve preserve the hadith is by extracting some

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Messiah from it. We're going to keep the Hadith alive in practice.

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So for immobile honey for artillery, he wanted Hadees that

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you could act upon that were practical. That's what he

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incorporated his narrations. That's why if you want to look at

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Hanafi Soudal Hadith, it's in the books of Surah Fick in the chapter

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of sunnah that's why they don't necessarily always have other

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Hadith collection isn't what's the point. This is the way to preserve

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is a different methodology you can agree or disagree, but that is the

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methodology and that's why it's been so effective. And so

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influence around the world that they they've preserved the Hadith

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like this. Another thing was the MO honey for artillery was very,

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very specific, very careful and cautious in the Hadith that he

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took. You know, among the, among the Hadith in there are two

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opinions about relating narrating Hadith.

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There is a concept called reliable manner, and rewire Beloved.

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Reliable love means that some like Abdullah Abdullah Masuda, the

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Allahu Allah and a few Abu Bakr Siddiq rhodiola, one day felt that

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what ever words the prophets Allah, some use the exact words,

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that is how it has to be related. You can't just understand the

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meaning and use different words to say the same thing. This is called

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reliable love, taking the literal meaning literal meaning and

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conveying the literal meaning. However, the Mohabbatein have

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written that if you had to restrict people to the literal

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meaning, then we would not have as many Hadees today or would it be

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lost because it's very difficult to remember the exact literal

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meaning. That's why reliable manner, which is that they

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understand the Hadith and they sometimes the word may have

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changed, but Imam Abu Hanifa hotel, it was very particular

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about reliable love. That's another thing about Mr. Barney,

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but that's why the his Muslim, he has a Muslim which is got numerous

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iterations. So, these are two reasons One is reliably logs he

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was very particular about and number two, he wanted Hadith to

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practice upon them. So

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in order to finish finish my talk, I just want to mention that

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the whole concept of questioning this idea is a very recent

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concept, because if you look at the great scholarship of the

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accepted scholars and orlimar of the past, they all follow the

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method. Yes, the only thing is that they may have had an opinion

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that was against the Muslim and which is completely fine for a

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much the head to do that not for a common person. So I ask Allah

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subhanaw taala to help us because Imam Abu Hanifa when you look at

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for example, half of the ceremony he relates that Imam Abu Hanifa

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engaged himself in the acquisition of his of knowledge and exerted

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himself until he achieved what others had not at the time. Once

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he visited monsoon, the Abbas it cliff, which African monsoon was

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the, the second Abbas Khalifa after his uncle suffer he's the

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one who established Baghdad as a city great Khalif once he visited

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him, and he found isa Abu Musa with him. Isa if the Musa set to

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monsoon, this is the scholar of the world today. This is these are

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the people of his time praising him. And one more quote I'll

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mention is Abdullah hibel Mobarak Rahmatullah how it relates that I

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entered Kufa and I inquired from the scholars as to who is the most

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learned person in the city. They told me, Abu Hanifa Rahmatullah

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Haley, then I inquired from them as to who was the most devout

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worshiper arbit devout worshipper, and the one who's most occupied in

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acquiring sacred knowledge. And they said, Abu Hanifa or Abdullah,

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hurry, every good characteristic that I asked about, what about

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this? What about that? They always said, we don't know anybody with

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that characteristic.

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Who that characteristic could be more better attributed to than Mr.

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Rouhani for artillery. So this is where I end my my talk. May Allah

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subhanahu wa taala grant us great respect and honor and dignity of

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these great Masonic and Imams of the past and allow us to follow in

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their footsteps because to reject any of the formal hubs and take

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something new from today, which has had not had the test of time

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is basically like, you know, having a nice Rolls Royce and you

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give that away and you say, give me this big car car, you know,

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this, you know, that's basically the way it is today. So Allah give

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us respect of our tradition, and assist us and help us and accept

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us all for the service of his Dean. Welcome to Donna O'Neill.

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hamdu Lillahi Rabbil Alameen

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