Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – HMC Blessing from Allah

Another of them, another of the other, which is definitely

relevant, very relevant to us. In fact, they would never visit

anybody or eat their food unless they knew that they were very

particular

about

what is found in here he says what is found among the people of their

time, which means the food that's available, very particular about

the halal and haram of it, very careful about that.

The head of sin, Allah Hamid, rotten hygiene, very particular

about this.

The reason for this is that a lot of people, they find it

embarrassing to find out to be concerned about this.

That's why I wrote an article about this because this was a

constant issue, especially in America where the concept is that

as long as it's from a Christian or Jew, it's halal. And then he

doesn't even get that far. They just say, because this is a

supposedly, and it's not an officially there's a difference

between separation, complete separation of church and state in

America. So you don't even know who's cutting your meat in the

supermarket's it could be an atheist, the Buddhists, the Hindu,

it could be anybody for that matter. Right. In fact, how are

they? Are they just killing it outright, just shooting a bolt in

the head or whatever the case is, but they just because of this

general idea, and they take a lot of photos from scholars in other

countries, especially Arab countries. And one thing you'll

find a lot of Muslim countries is that they think all of these

countries are Christian countries.

And so far from the truth is that facts, yes, there's a lot of

people who are nominally Christian, some practicing

Christians, but a huge amount are just absolutely of no persuasion

whatsoever. So you can't just go with that.

Even among Muslims, if you find that somebody is not slaughtering

property, you wouldn't give them the benefit of the doubt. So why

would you give non Muslims the benefit of the doubt, just because

some place may look kosher, whereas there in America itself,

there's over 20 organizations that certify kosher, and not even all

Jews agree with all of them. Because I remember once I

purchased some yogurts or saw some yogurt, and there was kosher

gelatin,

so for some reason, it wasn't the ultra orthodox union certified it

was some other organization. So I contacted the orother. It didn't

say kosher gelatin, it said gelatin. So I contacted the

company, Albertsons brand, yogurt, and they said, Oh, this is kosher.

And so I said, So when she looked at it a bit more, she said, Yeah,

this is kosher, but it's made of pork. I said, How is that

possible? said, Well, this particular kosher group certifying

group, they believe that it's only the flesh, which is not kosher,

the bones and the skin is kosher. Because gelatin is made of bones

of skin, that's where they get it from. Right? Not from the flesh.

So for them, it's okay. But that is not okay for the ultra orthodox

union, which are more trustworthy than them understand. So you've

got that issue as well. So if you find that a Muslim has just been

knockin an animal on the head and not sacrificing her and killing

it, you'd say that's haram. So why would just eat from any kosher

outlets, or any what you think is a Christian outlets?

Because what's been allowed of Christian and Jewish meat is

because they would sacrifice it in the proper way. If you look at the

Bible, the Old Testament, especially in the Corinthians,

it's mentioned how they cut their meat. That's what it was allowed,

because they cut it in a similar way to the Muslims. But now all of

these ways are different. So in America, there is this fatwa. It's

halal.

That's why in America, if you go there and you want proper food, do

not ask for halal. Ask for the beha. That is the halal.

So they have a distinction. A clear distinction is this is

halal, but it's not there. We've been to so many places, masjid and

other places. And I would never ask, is this halal? They tell me

this is all halal. But this one is the beer. The beer means sacrifice

properly. Right. So this is the beer. But that in fact, I've been

to one place this is the this is halal. This salad that's not

halal. He's talking to me in his opinion, you know, according to

know he's talking to me, according to my opinion.

Right? So it's a really weird situation. We have to be so

careful. That's why HMC in this country is an absolute blessing. I

know there's people who keep poking things on HMC as well. But

there's no system in the world that's going to be perfect.

Because deception and problem from individuals is an absolute

possibility in any of these situations. But when you see in

other countries, where there's a massive problem, and you have to

be so careful, right? To go drive two hours for your meeting, so on

these red HMC boards in this country as absolute God bless

As a blessing from Allah, that's why I close my eyes and go into

HMC and eat.

Right? Because seriously, how much more can you do? How much more can

you do? These are respectable arrma are part of these

organizations. I know many of them personally. May Allah reward them

abundantly for this work that they're doing. Yes, there's going

to be some mistake here. There are the other happens as human beings,

especially as new organizations the way it is, you know, without

the kind of resources that, you know, they, they would really,

they could have and they could benefit from it. So it's an

absolute blessing, especially when you come from these other

countries. And you see that it's an absolute blessing.

Every time I used to go to LA, I used to have to call the my

friend, a local Mufti there that would shop can I go and buy my

meat from this time, after every month or two? And then he would

say this shop and I would say, but

last month, last two months ago, it was the other shop you sent me

to? He says no, you can't buy from them anymore. I caught them mixing

because Halal is always more expensive. So they, they buy some

halal for a while they give you some confidence that and then

after that, they just stopped buying from elsewhere. And he

caught the mixing. So it's a massive, it's just a massive

problem. There's a lot of money to be made in meat.

And people are going to make more money when they can

and sometimes it's not the shop owners it's not really their fault

because they're told by the supply that is 100 100% halal and they

don't know what but when you know the industry like I do, it is very

difficult.

That's well hamdulillah I'm semi vegetarian, I can go without meat.

It's not an issue. When you get good meats and Hamdulillah we eat

it, but otherwise be semi vegetarian hamdulillah like the

province of Lausanne was anyway