Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Caring for Converts

Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera
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The difficulty of inviting someone to Islam and the need for people to become the ones who do it is discussed. The speaker explains that people do not need to be racist and that racist behavior is not a strong idea. They emphasize the importance of providing support for new Muslims and finding friends to assist them in their responsibility. The challenges of converting Muslims to be Muslim are also discussed, along with the need for literature to educate Muslims and finding support for conversions.

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			Bismillah al Rahman al Rahim Al
hamdu lillahi Hamdan kefir on the
		
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			human mobile can feed Mubarak
anally goma, your headboard buena
		
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			way of the gel Nigella and who am
Manila was salatu salam ala se
		
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			needle Habib Al Mustafa SallAllahu
Taala are they who are either
		
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			early or Safi or Baraka was seldom
at the Sleeman kefir on Ilario me
		
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			Dean Amma that
		
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			My dear brothers, dear sisters,
nice to be in your midst to
		
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			support this cause.
		
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			Allah subhanho wa Taala says in
the Quran, woman axonal coal
		
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			amendment there are il Allah who I
Milla salejaw Wirkkala in any
		
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			mineral Muslimeen
		
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			so Allah subhana wa Taala says in
the Quran that who better
		
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			than the ones who, who better in
speech
		
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			than the one who invites to Allah
subhanho wa taala.
		
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			And he does good deeds. And he
says that I am from the believers
		
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			I am from the submitters.
		
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			So who better than the one? Who
better in speech than the one who
		
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			invites to Allah and who does good
deeds. So now what the issue here
		
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			is that it's very easy for some
people to invite somebody to
		
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			Islam, to talk to somebody if
you're good at speaking. It's easy
		
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			to do that for some people, for
other people is difficult. But
		
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			what I've seen the most difficult
thing to do is to keep somebody in
		
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			Islam and not let them drift away
afterwards.
		
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			I was in Philadelphia several
years ago. And when I went from
		
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			the masjid to downtown, nearly
every 10th person that I met was a
		
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			Muslim, meaning they said a Salam
aleikum. And I said, Are you a
		
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			Muslim? And they said yes, but not
a practicing one. It looks like
		
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			they will all convert, they will
all reverts, you can say converts
		
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			reverts this, this word. Some
people like to say convert, some
		
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			people like to say revert, if they
both work. Some people say you
		
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			should call them Reaver because
they were Muslim before and
		
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			they've just come back to Islam.
That's not entirely true. Because
		
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			people aren't born Muslim. They're
born on the fitrah. That's what
		
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			the Hadith says. The hadith says
that they're born and the nature
		
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			the natural faith. When they
become valid and mature, that's
		
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			when they that's when they adopt
the faith and become true
		
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			submitters to Allah in an active
way. So either way, convert,
		
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			Revert, it doesn't make a
difference. Also, there's people
		
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			who have been Muslim for 20 years
or 15 years or five years, and
		
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			they still can consider themselves
to be new Muslim.
		
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			They're not new Muslims anymore.
Some masjid they hold new Muslim
		
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			classes. So then you get people
who've been Muslim for 10 years,
		
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			why are you coming here for?
		
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			Right? I mean, you can come if you
want to. But a new Muslim is
		
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			somebody who's just entered into
the faith, then after that they
		
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			should become normal, we should
not treat them as different.
		
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			Because all of us are new, in a
sense.
		
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			So we shouldn't treat them
differently. We should treat them
		
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			just like us. Now, one of the most
difficult things for converts is
		
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			to become incorporated into the
Muslim community.
		
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			And I'm very happy today mashallah
to be here on this occasion
		
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			because we don't get to many
organizations who do the work that
		
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			mashallah this organization is
doing it's called, neither is
		
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			right, neither. Not many people
are doing this, especially in
		
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			places like Sri Lanka, where 80%
Sinhalese and there's people who
		
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			are trying to cause issues between
Muslims and, and, and the main,
		
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			you know, and then the Sinhalese
people, the Buddhist people. So
		
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			it's a good, good place where you
need those people who do become
		
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			Muslim that they need support,
they need to be shown strength,
		
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			help, assistance, love. So then
other people are encouraged also,
		
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			to do the same thing.
		
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			So in sha Allah, we ask Allah
subhanaw taala to reward this
		
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			organization. I'm really mashallah
very honored to be here because of
		
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			that. As I said, one of the most
difficult things is that it may be
		
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			easy for somebody to become
Muslim, but then to keep them in
		
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			Islam and not let them drift away.
That becomes very difficult.
		
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			That's why converts, if you speak
to convert, they feel alienated a
		
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			lot of the time. Because and they
should not feel alienated.
		
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			We should have such a structure in
place, that when they come, we
		
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			embrace them and we make them one
of us, so that they everything
		
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			they've lost, it can be
transplanted. Now, in some cases,
		
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			some people get turned off,
because some people who convert to
		
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			Islam, they may have bad
character, bad luck. They may have
		
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			certain problems.
		
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			So because of that,
		
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			they people shun them. People
don't give them support. They
		
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			sometimes try to give them
support. But then when they find
		
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			out that they have some bad
character, maybe some people are
		
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			stealing it. I mean, converts
don't steal. That's not why they
		
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			become converts. But some people
are like that. So what happens is
		
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			that this is just the normal human
reaction, that when somebody has
		
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			bad character, humans generally
		
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			abandon shun them, stay away from
them. But then what shaytan does
		
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			is that it makes these converts
think that they shunning you
		
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			because you're Muslim,
		
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			these are just some of shaytans
ways of trying to detract somebody
		
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			even further.
		
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			It's just natural for a person to
try to avoid somebody with bad
		
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			character. This is just because
humans like good character, even
		
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			if they're bad character
themselves, they like people with
		
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			good character, and they will look
down upon somebody with bad
		
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			character, even though they have
bad character. It's just one of
		
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			those things.
		
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			A lot of the time what happens is
converts in especially in Western
		
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			countries, and maybe in in, in Sri
Lanka, as well, because in Sri
		
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			Lanka, the majority of the Muslims
speak Tamil, and they have maybe
		
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			Arab and other dissents whereas
the Sinhala is they have a
		
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			different ethnicity. So when
people have a different and
		
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			ethnicity convert to Islam,
whether that be in England or
		
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			anywhere else,
		
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			the another thing we have to be
very careful about is that they
		
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			don't feel that
		
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			they are being discriminated
against because of racism.
		
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			Because they tend to be from
another community, for example, in
		
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			the UK, if
		
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			somebody from a native Englishman
becomes a Muslim becomes a Muslim.
		
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			Most of the Muslims in the UK tend
to be Indian, Pakistani, Arab,
		
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			African, Somali, etc.
		
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			Now, what happens is that they've
got one Indian mosque, one maybe
		
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			Sri Lankan mosque, one Pakistani
Masjid close by one Somali masjid,
		
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			one Arab masjid, when they go to
any one of these, they see that
		
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			everybody is just talking to each
other. Maybe sometimes even in
		
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			their own language, and they feel
		
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			they feel that
		
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			people are being racist. That's
why they don't want to speak to
		
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			them. So I tried to explain to
them that that's not the case of
		
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			me with an Indian background. If I
go to sometimes another background
		
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			masjid, they may not even speak to
me, not because they're racist.
		
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			It's just because they
inconsiderate.
		
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			They're just not good UCLA. That's
why not because they're racist.
		
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			You see, racism is a very strong
idea. And as soon as somebody
		
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			pants idea that people are being
racist, and in Islam, we came into
		
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			Islam, not to be racist. And these
Muslims are all racist, I have to
		
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			try to explain to them they're not
racist is just,
		
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			they just either ignorant, they're
not consider it. They just don't
		
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			care enough, and they just doing
their own cultural thing. So these
		
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			are just some things because if we
have our convert brothers and
		
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			sisters here today, I just want
them to understand that that don't
		
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			take it personally. Right,
everybody, lots of people feel
		
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			that way when they go to different
places.
		
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			So just like with anything else,
when you enter something new, when
		
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			you purchase something new,
		
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			you need service after purchase
service. This is a normal thing.
		
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			When you buy a product, you get
support, especially in the modern
		
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			world, you get support. We should
understand that when somebody is
		
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			becoming a muslim, they need a lot
of support. And whose
		
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			responsibility is that? It is our
responsibility because Allah gave
		
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			us that responsibility to give
them the support. We're not the
		
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			manufacturers, but we are Muslim.
And we have been given the
		
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			responsibility to support
somebody. So new Muslims need a
		
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			lot of support. There's one
scholar from the Indian
		
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			subcontinent who is mashallah
worked very hard with converts and
		
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			new Muslims in in India. And is
that a wonderful job? So I asked
		
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			him that one of the biggest
challenges that we have, when
		
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			people become Muslim is how to
incorporate them into our
		
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			community, how to assist them and
help them because they need a lot
		
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			of support some time. He said, the
advice he gave me gave me was
		
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			wonderful. He said the best way to
do it is the way the Prophet
		
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			sallallahu alayhi wa sallam did
it, when the Muslims migrated from
		
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			Makkah mukaiyama to Madina,
Munawwara now there everybody was
		
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			a convert, it wasn't a convert
story, because with the Prophet
		
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			sallallahu some everybody was a
convert nearly full until you
		
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			know, they had children and
otherwise everybody converted from
		
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			something so
		
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			The earliest Muslims, most of the
majority of they were converts.
		
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			But when the Muslims from Madina,
Munawwara Maka Kurama went to
		
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			Madina Munawwara
		
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			the way the promise was sorted
out, because look, if you have 10
		
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			people, 100 people maybe convert
to Islam, you can't leave it to
		
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			two or three people to help every
one of them, we all need to share
		
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			the responsibility. And the way to
share the responsibility the way
		
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			the Prophet sallallahu did it is
from what we call in Arabic wahat.
		
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			wahat means to make brothers,
brotherhood and sisterhood so
		
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			okay, this person has become
converted reverted to Islam.
		
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			This family is willing to take
that person in and his family in
		
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			Oceania, her family. So the focus
of one
		
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			Muslim family would be that one
reverts family, they don't have to
		
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			worry about everybody else. So we
can split it up among us.
		
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			That would be one great way so
that if we can have different
		
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			people do that. So create that
kind of more heart.
		
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			So if every family decides that
they can take the responsibility
		
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			of one convert a family, we can
inshallah solve this issue,
		
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			because you remember, most likely
they'll always be at least in the
		
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			beginning, they'll always be more
		
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			existing Muslims and converts, so
it's easy to do so that we can
		
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			inshallah take the responsibility.
		
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			Now, support for converts doesn't
mean just giving them money.
		
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			There's a lot of support they
need, they need support, and how
		
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			to pray, how to purify themselves,
		
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			how to do many different things
about Islam, because remember,
		
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			they're learning from scratch. How
long do we spend with our
		
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			children, educating them as they
growing up about Islam, we send
		
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			them to madrasa to mock them to
teachers, we teach them at home.
		
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			Essentially, a convert sometimes
		
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			is similar, except that they're
more mature. So they can learn a
		
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			lot of things by themselves, but
they still need literature, for
		
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			example. So mashallah, I've had an
opportunity to learn a bit about
		
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			this organization. And they're
providing various different
		
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			things, whatever is needed
		
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			to try to fulfill all the gaps.
But basically, what they're doing
		
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			is what we individually as family
should be doing.
		
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			You know, as I said, the more Aha,
the Brotherhood family hood, what
		
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			they're doing is basically they
taking that responsibility. The
		
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			individuals who are involved May
Allah reward them abundantly, and
		
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			may Allah allow us to support
them.
		
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			So the verse I read in the
beginning, whoever invites people
		
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			to Islam, one is some of us find
it very difficult to do that, to
		
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			talk to somebody about Islam, what
it means to be Muslim, and so on.
		
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			That's not easy. For most of us, I
find it difficult. How do you just
		
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			suddenly start talking to somebody
in the bus, or in the tube or at
		
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			work, that this is what Islam is
about? Now, Islam, if it if at
		
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			this point, if mashallah, we had
some great things happening in the
		
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			Muslim world, there are but in the
media, it's always negative. So a
		
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			lot of the time we are on the
defensive.
		
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			Now, if there were many, many
things we could be proud of. And
		
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			we could show people that would be
easier for us to share our
		
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			religion because there's already
an opening. But you know, what, if
		
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			we can't vocally verbally tell
somebody about Islam ourself, then
		
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			helping an organization that helps
them, inshallah will also be
		
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			inviting to the path. The reason
why it's still inviting to the
		
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			path is because as I said, In the
beginning, people come into Islam
		
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			easily more easily. But for them
to stay there, they need a lot of
		
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			support.
		
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			And if we're not going to give
them the support, then they're
		
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			going to go back out.
		
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			And they're going to maybe
sometimes go back out with a bad
		
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			taste in their mouth. So I think
sometimes it's even more important
		
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			to keep Muslims Muslims than to
maybe bring even new ones. I mean,
		
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			we can't compare the two because
we need to do everything. Some
		
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			people compare these things, and
you can't really compare them,
		
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			because it's all important.
		
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			So one of the biggest feelings,
one of the biggest challenges for
		
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			converts is a feeling of
loneliness. Because remember, this
		
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			is what's happening. When you
become a Muslim, generally
		
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			speaking for a lot of people,
their friends will have a big,
		
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			their friends will have a big
objection to that. Because
		
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			you can no longer do with them.
You can't go out and drink with
		
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			them. You can't go and socialize
in the same way. So most many
		
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			converts will give up their
friends. They'll have to find new
		
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			friends. You can't make friends
just overnight is difficult. The
		
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			friends you've had, they could be
lifelong friends that you invested
		
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			so much time into to make them
friends. And now you've just
		
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			suddenly lost them. Not
		
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			Just friends, your own family,
sometimes in many cases with
		
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			converts, their families go
against them.
		
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			They don't want anything to do
with them, especially in the
		
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			current climate when there's just
so much negativity about the
		
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			faith. How can you become a Muslim
be some say you can be anything
		
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			else better Muslim SubhanAllah.
But that just shows the great
		
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			strength of Islam that despite the
negative media, Allah subhanaw
		
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			taala has given such merits and
credit and benefits in it that
		
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			people see it despite all the
negativity. So they sometimes lose
		
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			their family.
		
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			So they become very lonely. That's
why
		
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			if they're abandoned by their
community, then we need to try to
		
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			integrate them into our community.
And this can't happen overnight.
		
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			That's why I said this can't
happen overnight. That's why we
		
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			either individually do this. But
unfortunately, not every
		
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			individual has the time or the
motivation. So then we need the
		
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			organizations. Now you can see the
necessity for such an organization
		
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			to be able to do this work. So if
we can't do it directly, we at
		
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			least help organizations like
this,
		
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			to do this work for us.
		
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			Another complaint from a lot of
people is that
		
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			when converts come reverts come,
they come with a lot of baggage.
		
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			For example, there's many
converts, they will they will be
		
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			single parents, single mothers,
		
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			when they were not Muslim, they
committed many wrongs. There's
		
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			some converts who come in with a
lot of tattoos on their body.
		
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			Now, because of small things like
this, I mean small in the sense
		
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			that the fact that they become
Muslim now is a big deal. And all
		
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			of these things if Allah is
willing to wipe them out, and
		
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			Islamia the marker and a club
level.
		
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			It Islam eliminates everything
that happened before. Because the
		
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			reason it does that is because
when a person becomes Muslim, it's
		
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			a very powerful situation. They
become Muslim saying that
		
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			everything wrong that I've done,
I'm giving it up. I am remorseful
		
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			and regretful about it. And I am
making a Toba so essentially is
		
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			becoming a muslim is like a Toba
like a repentance. So that's why
		
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			all of that becomes forgiven. If
Allah can forgive people, for the
		
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			craziest actions they did,
		
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			because no longer are they doing
cover, no longer are they
		
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			committing shake, and then become
Muslim, which is such a big deal.
		
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			And a big step. If they can be
forgiving them, how can we not
		
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			forgive that? So we need to look
beyond that. And not make them
		
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			feel embarrassed about this.
		
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			If they have illegitimate
children, they have tattoos on
		
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			their body, they have some other
problems. That's minor in the
		
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			context they're in, in terms of
what what they have done and the
		
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			big step they have taken, and who
knows where they will be in
		
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			paradise, maybe even above us, in
Ghana.
		
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			So we need to be more generous, we
don't need to be stingy because
		
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			Allah subhanaw taala is generous.
And if Allah subhanaw taala is to
		
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			take us make us accountable for
the wrongs that we have done. Then
		
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			can you imagine
		
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			what how we would fare. So if we
help these people, we ask Allah
		
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			subhana wa Taala that this will be
sadaqa jariya for us. Now think
		
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			about this.
		
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			The Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa
sallam said that whoever shows the
		
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			right way,
		
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			the person who does the good thing
that you we showed them, every
		
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			time they do it, for as many years
they do it, we get the reward for
		
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			it. Free investment,
		
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			if I am going to assist an
organization which helps converts,
		
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			that Allah is keeping a record of
this, as many converts that will
		
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			be strengthened by our support.
Then in sha Allah, Allah is
		
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			opening up an account for us an
investment account, a retirement
		
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			account, whatever you want to call
it. So now this convert, I mean
		
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			mashallah, in in countries like
Sri Lanka and other places, our
		
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			100 pounds will go much further.
		
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			Right, it's gonna go really far
because the of the benefit that it
		
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			can provide all of that reward for
as many times that they learn
		
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			something, they become stronger,
they feel confident, they feel
		
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			part of the community, they feel,
helped and assisted. Then in sha
		
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			Allah, all of the benefit of that
strength and all the good that
		
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			they do. And remember
		
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			Anybody who's practicing Islam is
all good. All practice of Islam is
		
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			good. So this person now, imagine
you've helped two or three,
		
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			convert families with your money
with your support
		
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			for the rest of their life, that
they practice, we're getting
		
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			reward for it, we won't even know
maybe we won't even know who they
		
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			are. Because we've just supported
and we've moved away,
		
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			we will be rewarded for that. Now,
if those people stay Muslim in sha
		
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			Allah, they have children
		
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			and then they have children for
hundreds of years, then we will
		
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			continue to get rewards
		
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			because we help the first person
		
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			right? So he, obviously because we
helped him and it helped to keep
		
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			him Muslim or make him Muslim, the
next person that he will help
		
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			which will be His children, at
least his other family members, it
		
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			can just grow.
		
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			Right and this is guaranteed
growth. This is not like all of
		
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			these other pyramid schemes. This
is guaranteed growth. So we ask
		
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			Allah subhanho wa Taala photofit,
we ask Allah to help make us give
		
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			us the Tofik to assist in this.
And we ask Allah to strengthen
		
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			these organizations to help and to
strengthen. And we ask Allah that
		
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			we can also play our part working
with Dawa and Al hamdu Lillahi
		
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			Rabbil Alameen