Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera – Atheism and How to Deal Questions about Islam

Abdur Rahman ibn Yusuf Mangera
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The speakers stress the importance of understanding the " tours of Islam" and realities of people's dreams, showing faith in one's parents and parents to convince them to drive on a ship, protecting oneself and their children from evil behavior. They also emphasize the need to learn about Islam and its verses to make it a habit, but acknowledge that science cannot explain everything because it is impossible to create a new god. The speakers stress the importance of science as the only God who can create a stone or a man Manufacture a stone, and emphasize the need to learn about Islam and its verses to make it a habit.
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will tell one

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forcing him love

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down with

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on already him

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want to go one day in

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one lane

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me

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get the

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label evil love how

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clean

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the Hanged

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Man

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night

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goons don't feel

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good man girl

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live levy has

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been frozen

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when levena is Daddy

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let

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me oh one Meizu mousou length

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movie

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in good

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sleep Oh nothing's

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one that

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doesn't want me send me

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what up Oh lovely Mia

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Nanda Rahim hamdulillah Hamden gift here on the human Mubarak

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confy Mubarak and hardy.

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Come on your boy Robina

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Jalla Jalla who

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was salatu salam or either so you will have we will Mustafa

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sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi wa sahbihi wa Baraka was seldom at

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the Sleeman kefir on laomi Dean

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a mother it

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call Allahu Tabata Kawata Allah, Quran emoji, we will for corneal

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Hamid, where Elijah who Camila who had La ilaha illa, who are Rahman

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Rahim,

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my dear brothers and sisters.

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This topic is a

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unusual topic, in the sense that if we're talking about atheism,

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agnosticism, possibily, ism, apathy, etc, everything related to

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the non recognition of God of Allah, maybe denial of Allah

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subhanaw taala then why am I speaking to those people who

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already believe in Allah subhanaw taala?

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So let me ask you a question. Are there? Is there anybody who's got

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doubts about their religion? So I know which way to go with this.

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Otherwise, I don't want to bore you. There's no point in telling

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you something that mashallah you're convinced about? So is

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there anybody with doubts or questions about their religion? I

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will give you in fact, most of this is going to be based on

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questions and answers. Um, if you don't have any questions, I'm

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going to provide several different questions which relate to which

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come from people who

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don't believe in a God. We're not sure maybe, or some people who

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actually deny God. So I thought it would be more useful to do it that

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way. Because if there's none of you who have any doubts about God,

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then I may as well make this an exercise of how you can benefit

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others who may deny God at your workplace, at your study place, in

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your universities, in your workplaces, or in with your

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neighbors because this is a big discussion right now.

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So any hands?

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Anybody got problem with atheism here?

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I'm saying this because the last time I did a program well, one

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time we did a program like this, it was up up north in another

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city, and there was actually one of the low

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called youth to actually did not believe in God had major problems

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but he would come and listen to the lectures. You were searching

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which is fine, it's good hamdulillah

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Allah subhanahu wa Tada says about himself in the Quran mashallah the

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verses our quarry recited they were very pertinent as well. And

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there's numerous other verses the whole AYATUL kursi Allahu La ilaha

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illa who al Haj Europa Yun, the whole idea of this verse is to

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tell us who Allah subhanaw taala is, give us some of his

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characteristics. Give us some understanding of who he is and how

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his interaction with this world is by pondering over it. Allah says

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La ilaha illa who

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Allah Aziz will Hakeem, there is no god except Him. He is the

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mighty, and he is the wise one mighty one, he has power over all

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things. So that explains his Quran his power. Then he says, His

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Hakeem, he is the wise one. So whatever he's done in this world

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is based on wisdom. It's not foolishness. It's not randomness,

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it's not something that he just did. And then he decided, oh, this

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was wrong, what I did, everything was premeditated, fully

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volitional. And everything was pre planned. God, never Allah subhanaw

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taala never does anything. And then he thinks, oh, I shouldn't

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have done it that way. Because his omniscient knowledge, his

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knowledge, knows about how things will be even before he's created

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them. So for us, about us, for example, now that we are already

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here, it hasn't changed the knowledge of Allah in any way

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whatsoever. He knew about us the way we are, even before He created

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us, he knew how we were going to be, these changes only take place

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for us for Allah. He knows about all of these things from before.

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I know that's for us impossible to even comprehend sometimes. Because

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for us, we don't know about things before they've been brought up to

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us. So how can we think even of someone who may know that, but

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that's the whole idea that God is beyond what anything we can think

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of and conceive of. So just because we can't understand how

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God could know these things, doesn't mean he doesn't know them.

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Right? Just because we can't understand something doesn't mean

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it doesn't exist. Just because we haven't seen places in the world

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doesn't mean that they don't exist. I give you a simple

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example. When was the last time you had a really realistic dream?

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Everybody can think of a realistic dream when you are in your dream,

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especially if it was a nightmare. May Allah protect from Shaytaan,

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right? And you think, oh, no, I'm dead. Right? You get into some big

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trouble. Maybe you had an accident or something Allah prevent Allah

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forbid. But when you're in that dream, doesn't it feel as real as

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anything in this world? When you're in that dream? Right? You

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could be losing your job in your dream, you could be divorcing your

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spouse in your dream, and you're like, oh, no, what have I done to

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myself? Right? It feels so real. But as soon as you wake up,

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sometimes you wake up after the dream. Sometimes you wake up in

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the midst of that dream. Sometimes you wake up, as soon as you're

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about to have an accident or something. You wake up your dream

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and Alhamdulillah that was just a dream.

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Can you guys relate to that? I mean, I'm not getting any

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reaction. So I'm just wondering if I'm like,

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do you guys, do you understand what we're speaking about the

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reality the way the dream feels so realistic? And you wake up? And

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like, oh, that's just the dream? Does anybody have doubts about

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that? It being a dream. Now what Imam has already mentioned, he

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uses this example that when a person is in their dream, they

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feel they're in a real world in a real paradigm. They don't

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understand that this is just a dream that feels real soon as you

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come out of your dream, immediately. It's a dream. So the

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real the reality we're living in right now, when we're not in our

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dream in our wakeful state,

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everything we're experiencing, how do we know he says that we're also

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still not in another level of a dream? And that we can wake up

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from this and look back and think, did I really do all of that? That

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was just a dream. Do you understand what I'm saying? That

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how do you know that this is also not a dream? Why does he do this?

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This is to give us an understanding that if you want to

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question things,

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if you're a person who likes to question things, and don't want to

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take things unless you

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see it in front of you. There's people who will even question that

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this bottle of water exists here. They will say how does it exist?

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Is that real water? Is that just an optical illusion of my mind? I

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know I can feel it. But again, isn't that just an optical because

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if you get into the scientifics of that, you could even deny that but

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Is it real or not?

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You might say that people don't deny their parents. There are

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people who deny their parents

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How'd you prove that you're a child of your parents?

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How would you prove to somebody that we are children about

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parents?

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Okay. Let's start with a birth certificate. That's easier, right?

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We don't have to go to a DNA. Let's start off with a birth

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certificate. Somebody produces a birth certificate. Right? The

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birth certificate is from England, or maybe it's from India,

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Bangladesh somewhere? How difficult is it? Do you think it's

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impossible to forge a birth certificate?

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No. I mean, you can, you can forge things that you've got the right

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amount of money, the right amount of contacts, you can forge a birth

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certificate. So somebody is going to say that this is my proof of my

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relationship to my mother or father, right? My mother or

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father? Can I prove it using a bursary of birth certificates open

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to speculation, okay, let's do a DNA test. DNA tests are not 100%

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either. They're about 99%. Recently, I know a person who

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works in a fertility lab, in what a very prominent fertility lab,

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they had somebody come in for fertility treatment treatment,

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they took the egg and the sperm from the couple. They, they did

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everything the wife became pregnant that the woman became

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pregnant. And then they come back, and they saying this is not my

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child. Even though everything happened there, they had to then

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send for DNA test to some of the greatest experts in DNA to

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America, etc. And they were shocked that this was an unusual

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case.

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This was an unusual case that there were so many things that

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were different, but yet there were so many things that matched and it

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created confusion in that. So if you want to be a skeptic, a

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questioner not believing in anything, unless you see whatever

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is absolute proof to you, then you can deny anything and everything.

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Everything is possible to deny if you want to be that skeptic. So

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where is your skepticism? Going to stop? Where is your question?

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Where are your questions going to stop? When are you going to start

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accepting things? Have you how many of you have seen your great,

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great grandfather?

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I've seen my great grandfather haven't seen my great, great

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grandfather. I'd love to see I've seen a picture of his but I

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haven't seen him a passport picture. But that could have been

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made up in India, you can make up anything?

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How would you prove that your grandfather, your great great

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grandfather existed?

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You can't But don't we believe it? How do we prove that we were in an

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embryonic stage in the stomach's of our mothers? Does anybody

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remember that?

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But I don't think anybody's going to deny that one.

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Does anybody remember when Allah subhanaw taala took out all of the

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children of Adam Alayhis Salam in the form of small, small ends or

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as they resembled. And then he said to them, I am your Lord. And

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I your Lord, allow us to be an obstacle? And instead of course

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you are Does anybody remember that? No. There are some people

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who say we can we can recall that experience. There are some people

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maybe it to the unknown, I think it was from him or somebody. That

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doesn't mean it didn't happen. So all of this takes us to the

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understanding that it's not only through seeing something or

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hearing something that you can receive knowledge about something.

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There are many ways of receiving knowledge, receiving beliefs about

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some things. You have not seen your great grand, great, great

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grandfather, you've never heard him. You've never held him. You've

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never hugged him. Right. So none of your senses can bear witness to

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our great great grandparents. But we believe now that nevertheless,

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how do we believe it? We do induction we do inference, right?

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We use various different ways of reaching a conclusion.

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So just because you can't see Allah subhanaw taala doesn't mean

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he does not exist. There are so many things that we can't see but

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we believe in them.

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That's why Allah subhana wa Tada

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says, Virdi como la hora, bukem.

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That is Allah He is Allah, that is He is Allah your Lord

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La ilaha illa who constantly there is no God except he hardly Coco

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Lishi the creator of everything. For Abu do so now worship Him,

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because He is responsible for everything that you are. So

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worship him, show him your devotion. Well who are the

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conditions in working? Allah says Rama only rule in law, the Buddha

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Allah has really seen it, in fact, that none of us were my only rule

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in law, the Buddha ILAHA Heda they've only been told to worship

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one Lord, one deity, one of they've only been told to take one

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object of worship.

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La ilaha illa who there is no God

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Except he

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Subhanallah, who I'm usually called glorified and transcendent

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He is above what they

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bring us partners to him. Are they important to him?

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So now, the first thing that you do whenever you come into any of

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these questions with anybody is never jumped in to try to answer.

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There are so many questions about I'll give you another example. I

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was in a, in a college just some time ago. And I was, I was, it was

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myself and this other Muslim sister who was representing the

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Muslim opinion. It was essentially in a Sixth Form College. And they

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had invited people from different faiths to talk about their faith.

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So the Christian

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clergy person, he spoke first. And then after that, they told the

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sister to speak. And as she had finished these, these are all

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teenagers, you know, your 716 16 1718 that year, that age?

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As soon as she finished the talk, hands went up? Why do you have to

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cover your head?

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Why do you have to wear a hijab?

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What is the normal answer? What what do you see? I say, when

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somebody asks you that question. That's, that is the right answer.

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To be honest, you have to come back to that eventually. But if

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you say that, like Man, this guy's, you know, somewhere else?

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The typical answer that people give, and they think it's a really

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good answer is, oh, because it's my choice.

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That's not a very good answer. To be honest. It is your choice in

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sha Allah, it is your choice. But that's not the answer you're

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looking for. Why is it your choice?

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Right, if you prod, it's because the religion has told you this is

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good. So they're gonna say, oh, it's because you've been made to

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believe

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you been made to believe that this is the thing you must do. So then

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you've chosen it, because that's where you've been led to choose.

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So you get stuck with that answer.

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So I couldn't say anything, because it wasn't my turn to

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speak, I let her deal with it. And then after that, eventually, when

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it was my turn, and I finished, in fact, in my talk I dealt with I

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said, Look,

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I want to ask you guys a question. Because remember, a lot of these

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questions, don't ever jump into answering them. Because as soon as

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you jump into answering them, you have already accepted their

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premise, you've accepted the way they have formulated. So it's like

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you've accepted half of the way they think, and you're trying to

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answer it according to the way they think. But it's totally wrong

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from the basis of it. So my question to them was, to these

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young guys who are asking the question, why is it a problem? If

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she if she covers her?

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Why is it an issue? What is the point on the body after which it's

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not good to cover? Their their their? Where is it? Who made that

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decision?

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The only reason you've got a problem with her covering her head

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is because you're not used to it. You're used to women not covering

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their hair, but who makes that value judgment as to which is

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better? If she feels that is better for her than let her do

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that. And if you feel that it's better for you not to do it,

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that's up to you. But who makes the judgment? And why is your

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judgment that the hair should not be covered and women should leave

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their hair out? Why is that a better judgment than this? Where's

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the science behind it? Where are your statistics? Or studies or

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research that shows that is better than that? One? Where is that? Can

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you see don't ever get caught up? In the question. Always take the

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question and see why they're asking the question. Is this

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somebody who genuinely has a query? Who wants to understand,

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always prompt them? Like, why are you asking that question for why

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is that so important for you?

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Always do that, then have a discussion. Go for coffee, if you

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want somewhere? Go for a tea somewhere? Let's discuss this

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right? You can't just answer this just like that.

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Don't jump into a question try to answer because you'll generally

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get stuck. Always try to understand why somebody's asking

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the assumptions behind why they're asking that question. And then you

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can find some common ground where they accept certain things do

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other traditional people, what do they accept as truth? What can you

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use, then you can try to understand how best to convince

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them. A lot of people ask, what is the best book to give to somebody

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who's interested in Islam?

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And that's, that was that's always been a very difficult answer. The

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reason is that the person who's asking you that question, he may

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be interested in science. He doesn't care about spirituality.

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So you need to give him a book that is related from a scientific

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perspective about Islam. There are some people who are more

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spiritual, they don't care about science. So you need to get a book

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on Introduction to islam about from a spiritual perspective,

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right? Somebody might be interested in a more philosophical

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dimension, they might philosophize a lot of things. They're very deep

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thinkers. So now if you give them a

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book that is related to not related to deep thoughts about

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Islam, then that's not going to be useful to them. But now I can say

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there is actually one book, which mashallah deals with everything. I

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think, when I read it, I benefited hugely for it from it's called,

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give me a copy. A Thinking Person's Guide to Islam is written

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by a person with two PhDs, and he happens to be a prince. Right? But

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don't don't let that don't let that discount the book, a thinking

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Person's Guide to Islam.

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Written by Prince Ghazi, he explains what Islam is the various

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different aspects of Islam, it's only came out I think about two

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years ago, and it's already been translated into several languages,

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because it's done in such a beautiful way. It's such a

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convincing way, because the author has two PhDs, he's a philosopher,

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and he's a very good mashallah a practicing Muslim.

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Right. So it's always nice for all of us, especially in this current

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day and age, where we're working with non Muslims, we're working

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with people who are going to be constantly and then Islam has

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become so criticized because of some of our own doing some of our

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own inaction, some of our some of our unfortunate brothers out, then

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you know, who do weird things in the name of Islam. And then we

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just sit back and not do enough to counter that sometimes, or we

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don't give them a positive idea. We have brothers and sisters who

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are cheating the system, and creating blameworthiness because

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of that, right? So all of that is there. That's why we really need

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to understand what's necessary so that we can answer this. So now

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let me look at a few different different questions. One of the

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best ways that you can explain to somebody who Allah subhana wa,

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tada is, is will by what they call is the beautiful design of the

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universe. How can something be so beautifully designed, and not have

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any designer behind it? I mean, this book is beautifully designed,

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right? So there must be a beautiful designer behind it. It

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just couldn't come up randomly. Once Imam Abu Hanifa, right, was

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sitting there. And there was a group of atheist or agnostics they

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were they were mohideen. They were people who denied Allah and they

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had confusions about that they came to him and says, We want to

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ask you some questions. Right. So imagine you're sitting there big

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scholars sitting there. And these atheist, they're Arabs, you know,

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and they come in to ask the question, we're gonna ask you some

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questions about, about God. So he So Imam, Abu Hanifa. He said, You

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know what?

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I can't take your questions right now.

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I can't take your questions right now. Because right now, I've got a

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question that I'm already dealing with. It's a very complex

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question. And I don't know, I'm thinking about it right now. So

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they got curious and say, what is that question? He says, I've been

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told about a ship, right about a freight liner, a ship, right, that

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travels on the ocean. And it's traveling without

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a captain. There's nobody

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governing its course. It's traveling on its own. And it's

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going through the waves, and it knows exactly how to navigate. And

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it goes from

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its place of origin to its destination, and it doesn't go

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wrong. And they asking me about this, and I can't understand this.

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Now, that question, if it came today, we could all understand

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that it's just a smart ship. It's got automated functions. I mean,

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you could you could,

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planes can be basically flown right now, with a remote control,

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they just have a person sitting there, just to make sure that if

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the computer doesn't malfunction, otherwise, most pilots, they just

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sit there, they put an autopilot. They do certain things manually. I

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mean, if you've driven a Tesla, you may have had that experience,

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I mean, you you're you're you're writing it, and you can put it on

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automatic, and it will avoid the cars in front. But then sometimes

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it does cause a problem because it just the computer at the end of

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the day, for us this thing has become a reality now. But in those

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days, that was impossible to imagine.

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It'd be impossible to imagine a keyless entry of a kind those

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days. So I mean, ship driving itself is impossible. So now when

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he said that to them,

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they said, Man, this is a crazy idea. How can a ship drive by

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itself? Right? Can you not understand that? How can you ship?

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They're like trying to answer the question for him like why are you

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even entertaining this question? It's such an absurd question.

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And that's when you want when he does it. That's exactly my point

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to you. This is your answer. You guys cannot accept one small ship

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that can drive on its own. Without a driver without. And you think

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this entire universe with all of its beauty and everything you

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think that can drive on its own, that can be done that can be

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designed and it can run on its own. And that's when they realized

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their fault. So you could tell that they were not arch skeptics.

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They had genuine they were genuine seekers. hamdulillah they all they

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all

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They all came back into the faith.

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So what I'm trying to say is that with a lot of these questions, you

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can't Don't be so naive and just kind of jump into it and try to

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explain in our, you know, naive way we can't do it. Sometimes you

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have to just stop, take a step back and say, Why are we asking

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this question? Why is that so important to you? What is life to

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you first? Where do you think you're going? Ask him where he's

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going? First? What do you believe him?

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See, because out there, you've got people who absolutely deny Allah,

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like, actively. They have they they hate God, they hate the whole

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concept of God, they hate anybody that believes in God, they have a

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government approach to this. And they're there to they're seeking

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to actually destroy anything related to God, like Arch atheist.

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And that's the difference between this generation, the last 40

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years, and maybe hundreds of years before that, because the militant

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atheism has been around as you know, there's always somebody or

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the other who deny a god. I mean, that's just generically a human

00:31:04 --> 00:31:08

trait for some people, right? But from around, you can do a trace of

00:31:08 --> 00:31:13

the of atheism for about from about 16 1700. But in those days,

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Christianity was very strong in Europe. Now remember, Europe,

00:31:16 --> 00:31:21

where we live, never had a profit. Right? Europe has never had a

00:31:21 --> 00:31:24

profit, the Middle East has had a profit, right? Many other places

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have a profit, but Europe has not had a profit. That's why their

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profits are the major philosophers like Kant, and others. That's

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where they take a lot of this from today. The other thing that Europe

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has dealt with, right is persecution by the Christian

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church, because the church dominated Europe.

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If you look at if you go to the University of sorry, non

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University, if you go to the Museum of London isn't anywhere,

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whether it's the Museum of London, where is it? Right, it's in that

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area, Barbican and beyond that, it's very interesting, you should

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go there to understand this way how this great city started,

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right? A Roman garrison city, on the Thames, right? If you look

00:32:02 --> 00:32:05

there, as it develops, there's a huge amount of churches.

00:32:07 --> 00:32:09

It's just chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp church, like, you

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know, when you go to Blackburn, you see mustard on every corner,

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it was like that. Well, it's still like that. But just in one year

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alone, I saw the economist a few years ago, just in one year alone,

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50 churches in London were sold. And this was a few years ago,

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they've been church, they're being sold 50 churches were sold to

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either become community centers,

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luxury homes, or something like that. There are a huge number of

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churches in London alone, because Christianity was quite widespread

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throughout Europe, the worst place that where there's a lot of

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persecution and oppression committed by the church was in

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France.

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So today, you actually see that the French are probably the most

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antagonistic towards any religion. And because Islam is so strong and

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powerful, and manifests, and people like to practice it, Islam

00:33:01 --> 00:33:04

becomes their main enemy. That's why the whole Constitution is

00:33:04 --> 00:33:09

based on what they call a lie set a, an extreme form of liberal of

00:33:09 --> 00:33:13

secularism, that doesn't even allow religion. That's why they

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have such a problem

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with religion, less problem than the British have done the UK have.

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That's why even in Canada, which is mostly English, part French

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influence that Quebec, Canada, they're part friends, it's from

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Quebec, that they're trying to ban the hijab right now, not the rest

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of the country.

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And the French have some problem, right? They have a really weird

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relationship with and yet Francis, the probably the most Muslims in,

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in Europe, but they've had a one of the reasons for that is they've

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just had a bad experience with religion. A lot of the time,

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people who deny God is because they've had a bad experience.

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And if I stop talking about Christians, and I start talking

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about Muslims, it's a very similar picture here. One of the reasons

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why some Muslims have left the faith or are leaving the faith is

00:34:09 --> 00:34:14

because Islam has been presented to them. In culture only.

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You know, the green and gold and red glitter of marriage of

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weddings.

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There's nothing else beyond that.

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What true religion is they have no idea. It's a cultural religion

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that has been presented to them. And then sometimes, they've been

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forced to marry somebody they don't want to marry like their

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cousins and saying this is Muslim and Islamic. The only way Islam

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crept up in the whole discussion.

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I spoke to a woman who lives in London somewhere. She is older.

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She's a Pakistani woman, older, meaning probably about 14 now.

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She's married to a non Muslim. She knows she's doing wrong. She knows

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I'm this is a bad marriage. I shouldn't be in this marriage. How

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do you get there? I said, she said I was forced to marry my cousin.

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From Pakistan is brought over, I couldn't get along with him. And I

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lost my faith. Now she's coming back to her faith, she is

00:35:07 --> 00:35:11

realizing this is not faith that was forced into it. So there could

00:35:11 --> 00:35:13

be many real, this isn't the only reason there could be many reasons

00:35:14 --> 00:35:17

of why person leaves the faith. Right? It could be many, many

00:35:17 --> 00:35:23

reasons we have to own up to this. So one of the one of one group of

00:35:23 --> 00:35:26

people who don't believe in God, or those who absolutely deny it.

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The other thing we've had is in the last 4050 years, we've had

00:35:30 --> 00:35:33

what they call the five horses or the four horses, right? These are

00:35:35 --> 00:35:39

these very confident atheists that some of them were very articulate,

00:35:39 --> 00:35:43

you know, your Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins, and Hitchens.

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They have, they have basically taken the discourse with their

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very articulate way of argument by having debates with people who are

00:35:52 --> 00:35:57

maybe not as good and then they, they break them down. So people,

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there are people I know who've there are about three Muslim youth

00:36:01 --> 00:36:04

that I've dealt with who had questions about their faith, and

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all the arguments that they articulated were primarily from

00:36:08 --> 00:36:09

Dawkins.

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Now, the thing is that the same arguments same criticism he is

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putting on to Islam of why, for example, it's a simple question.

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Why do women get half of what a man gets for inheritance? Why does

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a woman Why is a woman not allowed to issue a divorce in Islam? Why

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is it only the man who can? These are some of the questions? Why

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does a woman have to cover up?

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When a man doesn't?

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Okay, these are questions. If you focus on them, you can you can see

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why these questions are being a problem, because it seems like

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there's no equity. There's no equality.

00:36:55 --> 00:36:58

When are men going to stand up? I'm not saying that they should.

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But let's say men started getting really angry about this. And they

00:37:03 --> 00:37:06

started taking their manhood back, because right now masculinity is

00:37:06 --> 00:37:10

in crisis, right? And they started saying, Why can't men have babies?

00:37:12 --> 00:37:15

We want * as well. We want to be able to feed.

00:37:17 --> 00:37:21

We want to be as emotional, we want to cry more as well. We can't

00:37:21 --> 00:37:23

cry. You guys just cry over everything.

00:37:24 --> 00:37:27

Why can't we cry so easy. We want to do it as well. This is

00:37:29 --> 00:37:32

inequality. How could God created this, we're not going to believe

00:37:32 --> 00:37:34

in this religion anymore. We're not going to believe in God, we're

00:37:34 --> 00:37:36

going to deny God because of that.

00:37:39 --> 00:37:42

similar arguments, I mean, this is just a few arguments, there's so

00:37:42 --> 00:37:45

many more things that men can say if they want to, I'm not saying

00:37:45 --> 00:37:48

they should do because it's absolute lunacy to do so. Right?

00:37:49 --> 00:37:52

What I'm saying is that where you don't cause a problem, there

00:37:52 --> 00:37:57

shouldn't be a problem for hundreds of years, 1000s of years,

00:37:57 --> 00:38:02

this has been the case. Right? Women did what they did best men

00:38:02 --> 00:38:04

did what they they are complementary roles. There is

00:38:04 --> 00:38:05

gender equity.

00:38:06 --> 00:38:11

Gender equality is a is a false idea is gender equity, where you

00:38:11 --> 00:38:15

help one another. Women are very good at certain things. Men are

00:38:15 --> 00:38:18

very good at other things. They help together. That's how they

00:38:18 --> 00:38:22

produce children, and the race continues. But what's happened

00:38:22 --> 00:38:25

right now is that the discourse through the media and through some

00:38:25 --> 00:38:29

ideologues, and through these arch atheists, they've just put the

00:38:29 --> 00:38:34

focus on women in equality, nobody is forced, forced on so called

00:38:35 --> 00:38:38

male equality. And that's why that's not a problem. This is a

00:38:38 --> 00:38:38

problem.

00:38:40 --> 00:38:45

It's all about who creates the big discourse. Who, who, who manages

00:38:45 --> 00:38:46

the narrative.

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We have to be able to see through this, I'll give you an example.

00:38:54 --> 00:38:55

In France,

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in America, and in the UK, a man is allowed to run bare chested

00:39:03 --> 00:39:06

if he wants to go and do a jog outside in the park, I don't think

00:39:06 --> 00:39:10

there's any law about not wearing a t shirt is there for men, right?

00:39:10 --> 00:39:13

But if a woman wants to do the same thing, do you think she would

00:39:13 --> 00:39:18

survive? That's illegal. But in France, it's okay to do that at

00:39:18 --> 00:39:19

the beach.

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Right in front Italy. In fact, even in Spain, it's okay to do

00:39:23 --> 00:39:24

that the beach

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right. But in England, it has to be specially designated. Why is

00:39:30 --> 00:39:31

the inequality

00:39:34 --> 00:39:36

what justifies this what justifies that?

00:39:38 --> 00:39:44

In Egypt, about 85 to 90% of women wear hijab? So if the country

00:39:44 --> 00:39:47

decided that he job must become necessary for every woman,

00:39:49 --> 00:39:50

why should that be a problem?

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The reason it's going to be a problem is because anti West is

00:39:55 --> 00:39:59

not the dominant ideology right now. People will make a big fuss

00:40:00 --> 00:40:04

for that 10% People will make the biggest fuss. But there's so many

00:40:04 --> 00:40:07

other things happening. Nobody makes a fuss about those things,

00:40:07 --> 00:40:11

just depends on what the discourse is. That's why don't get caught up

00:40:11 --> 00:40:15

in the question and then trying to be box and then be boxed in and

00:40:15 --> 00:40:16

find you're trying to find your way out.

00:40:17 --> 00:40:21

challenge their assumptions. So I said to these young guys, what is

00:40:21 --> 00:40:26

it that makes that part of the body not to be covered? Why is

00:40:26 --> 00:40:31

somebody in a T shirt and jeans superior to somebody in an abaya?

00:40:31 --> 00:40:35

And in a hijab? Why is that one person superior to this person?

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Can anybody give a reason?

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It's only superior because we're used to it. It's a deep seated

00:40:44 --> 00:40:47

ideology that has been fed to us. And we've taken in, we don't even

00:40:47 --> 00:40:48

know why we think that,

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scientifically, why is that better than this?

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Why should your judgment be superior to my judgment? If you

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want true freedom of expression, and if you want true freedom of

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whatever you want to do, then let her be like, then let her be like

00:41:05 --> 00:41:06

that? If that's what you're saying.

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So why do we believe in something we can't see? That's a famous

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question, right?

00:41:14 --> 00:41:18

So actually, let me go back to the first person who denies the second

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type of people are those who don't deny God. But they say that we

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don't have enough evidence to prove it yet.

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We don't have enough evidence. These are agnostics. agnostics,

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which is the topic of the title. So I better cover agnostics,

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right? So, agnostics are those who say we don't know yet. We're still

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looking.

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I was like, how long you're gonna look for? Right? We're still

00:41:43 --> 00:41:45

looking, we're still exploring.

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I mean, there's enough evidence, Therefore Allah if you want, Allah

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is such an essential reality that your own self will call out to

00:41:54 --> 00:41:55

Him.

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When you're when, when you're in the greatest state of desperation,

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I remember listening to a TED talk. And she was explained, she

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said, you're going to call out

00:42:04 --> 00:42:08

to the heavens, they just don't want to use God.

00:42:09 --> 00:42:12

When you're in trouble, you're going to call out to something

00:42:12 --> 00:42:16

because it's a human nature, that is God has implanted to call on

00:42:16 --> 00:42:19

something greater than you. What is that greater thing? You're

00:42:19 --> 00:42:22

going to just intellectually convinced yourself that, oh, it's

00:42:22 --> 00:42:28

heaven, whatever that means. It is nature. Whatever that means,

00:42:28 --> 00:42:31

right? Just these different ideas.

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You know, people say, oh, gosh, that's essentially just, instead

00:42:37 --> 00:42:40

of saying, Oh, God, that's just the way of saying, oh, gosh,

00:42:40 --> 00:42:43

instead of people need an expression, why do you say, Oh,

00:42:43 --> 00:42:45

God, uh, me.

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Whatever you say, like, you know, for your mother, you just calling

00:42:49 --> 00:42:51

on to somebody who you think you're going to get something

00:42:51 --> 00:42:54

from? So you say, Oh, God, so you call out to Gosh, who the heck is

00:42:54 --> 00:42:54

that? Gosh.

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Like, why would you call out to that, it's a human need to call on

00:42:59 --> 00:43:05

to something. So that's the second that agnostics. The third set of

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people.

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Apathy, apathy means they don't care.

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They have no interest in finding out whether it is a God or not.

00:43:16 --> 00:43:18

They don't even want to discuss it Oh, that doesn't, when they're

00:43:18 --> 00:43:23

just indulgent in the dunya. We're happy, we just have lots of money,

00:43:23 --> 00:43:29

we can enjoy ourselves, we can eat and entertain ourselves to death.

00:43:29 --> 00:43:32

That doesn't bother us. We're not worried about tomorrow, we're not

00:43:32 --> 00:43:33

worried about the hereafter.

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Apathy is a massive problem. That's why you have a lot of

00:43:38 --> 00:43:40

Muslims who do believe in God at the back of their mind, but they

00:43:40 --> 00:43:44

have a lot of apathy. They don't want to learn, they don't really

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care, they don't really know it's not a reality for them, what's

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going to happen afterwards.

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So apathy is a massive problem, it needs to be cured.

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Then there's a fourth possibility, there's a author that I was

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reading, and he studied the brain in depth. So he is neither an

00:44:02 --> 00:44:06

atheist, neither an agnostic neither and neither apathy. He

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says that I'm a possible list,

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essentially saying that, what it is, is that he is basically saying

00:44:15 --> 00:44:19

there's probably enough evidence for there to be something, but I'm

00:44:19 --> 00:44:23

not willing to accept to you, but I'm saying possibly is better than

00:44:23 --> 00:44:27

the others at least you're getting closer. Right? These are just

00:44:27 --> 00:44:31

various ideas of the denial of God because as our order might have

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explained to us that people have different types of gopher one is

00:44:35 --> 00:44:39

called Khufu, javelin, the disbelief of ignorance where you

00:44:39 --> 00:44:41

don't know about God. Nobody's told you about it. So you're

00:44:41 --> 00:44:43

ignorant about it. Why do you don't know there could be many

00:44:43 --> 00:44:46

reasons why you don't know you haven't bothered trying? Or you

00:44:46 --> 00:44:49

did try but you couldn't find I believe that anybody who searches

00:44:49 --> 00:44:52

God will find him that's a promise from a lie think that anybody who

00:44:52 --> 00:44:56

searches for God will find him. So that's cool through Joel. Just

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ignorance, then there's Khufu. Renard and Khufu

00:45:00 --> 00:45:04

Who would basically go through enter this? I know, but I'm not

00:45:04 --> 00:45:05

going to believe that.

00:45:06 --> 00:45:09

I know but I'm not going to believe inside, you know, it's

00:45:09 --> 00:45:11

right. But you cover it up.

00:45:12 --> 00:45:17

And you stubbornly refuse to believe. You stubbornly refuse to

00:45:17 --> 00:45:21

believe you're obstinate. If I really want to be fair with

00:45:21 --> 00:45:26

myself, I should believe but I've got too much to lose. I need to

00:45:26 --> 00:45:29

do. Why do a lot of people not believe because if you start

00:45:29 --> 00:45:31

believing in God, he puts you into

00:45:32 --> 00:45:33

laws.

00:45:35 --> 00:45:39

God puts laws down, following the laws of God are not easy.

00:45:40 --> 00:45:43

Right? That's why a lot of will say what do you know if you're a

00:45:43 --> 00:45:45

Muslim? Would you have to do Oh, you have to stop eating yourself.

00:45:45 --> 00:45:48

Stop drinking, stop womanizing, man, amazing, whatever, you know,

00:45:48 --> 00:45:52

whichever way it is, right? Now, I can't do that. That's difficult.

00:45:53 --> 00:45:57

Right? Maybe later, whatever. You know, it takes a while. It's just

00:45:57 --> 00:46:02

human beings. But Allah subhanho wa Taala says FM and sha Allah who

00:46:02 --> 00:46:04

saw their holy Islamic for who Allah God Mirabai.

00:46:05 --> 00:46:07

reason I say that is because

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there was a group of atheists in America, that was a young Asian

00:46:14 --> 00:46:18

Pakistani background. And they

00:46:21 --> 00:46:24

had become atheist. Now they were going around the different

00:46:24 --> 00:46:29

universities giving a lecture and telling them about their

00:46:29 --> 00:46:30

experience.

00:46:32 --> 00:46:36

And subhanAllah. One of the names is Muhammad, the atheist? It just

00:46:36 --> 00:46:39

sounds such an oxymoron. Like, how can you have a Muhammad was a

00:46:39 --> 00:46:41

atheist. It's just doesn't make sense. But

00:46:42 --> 00:46:47

something went wrong somewhere. And, you know, there's Muhammad,

00:46:47 --> 00:46:47

the atheist.

00:46:50 --> 00:46:54

And one of the questions that really struck me was that they

00:46:54 --> 00:46:56

were talking about their difficulty with their family and

00:46:56 --> 00:46:57

their parents.

00:46:59 --> 00:47:01

How they were trying to deal with their parents and difficulty of

00:47:01 --> 00:47:05

not being accepted now being alienated, and so on and so forth.

00:47:06 --> 00:47:06

So

00:47:08 --> 00:47:10

the person asked him, wouldn't it have been easier for you to just

00:47:10 --> 00:47:11

believe?

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And he said, of course, but we can't.

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Now think about that. That's a very deep answer. It's a very

00:47:20 --> 00:47:20

telling answer.

00:47:22 --> 00:47:26

We would love to believe I'm interpreting, we wish that would

00:47:26 --> 00:47:30

have been easy for us, but we can't believe what's going on

00:47:30 --> 00:47:30

here.

00:47:31 --> 00:47:32

What's going on here?

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What's going on? Is that if Allah says in the Quran, by taba Allahu

00:47:40 --> 00:47:40

Allah, Quran, Bell,

00:47:42 --> 00:47:46

gullible Rana, Allah kuruva him this taba, Allah Febi, Monique

00:47:46 --> 00:47:51

Nemeth. When Allah puts a seal for whatever reason, then it doesn't

00:47:51 --> 00:47:57

matter what you try. You get the best people to explain to you who

00:47:57 --> 00:48:03

God is, try to answer your, your all your questions, you just won't

00:48:03 --> 00:48:03

get it.

00:48:05 --> 00:48:09

At the end of the day, you must call on to align yourself. Now

00:48:09 --> 00:48:12

this is not to say we don't have answers. This is not like you must

00:48:12 --> 00:48:16

understand the Trinity even if you don't get it. Like you must just

00:48:16 --> 00:48:17

believe that's not the point.

00:48:19 --> 00:48:23

We have many many answers for all the questions but if answers were

00:48:23 --> 00:48:26

convincing other people but it did not convince you that maybe

00:48:26 --> 00:48:30

there's a deeper problem, which is that it's just there's a seal on

00:48:30 --> 00:48:34

the heart. And the only way to remove the seal is FM and sha

00:48:34 --> 00:48:38

Allah Saleh al Islam. It is the one for whom Allah subhanaw taala

00:48:38 --> 00:48:42

has opened his heart up for Islam. For who Allah God Mirabai that

00:48:42 --> 00:48:44

person is on the light of his Lord.

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That person is under light of his Lord.

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That's why at the end of the day, it's it's really that which which

00:48:51 --> 00:48:51

matters.

00:48:54 --> 00:48:55

When you have a wet ground

00:48:56 --> 00:48:58

Don't you know that it's rained,

00:48:59 --> 00:49:01

but somebody could have just sprayed it.

00:49:02 --> 00:49:06

But we generally believe in rain we make certain calculations think

00:49:06 --> 00:49:09

if it's just a small area, okay, maybe there was a garden hose. But

00:49:09 --> 00:49:11

if it's a very large area and you keep seeing it then okay, it was

00:49:11 --> 00:49:15

probably rain. You can even smell the rain in there sometimes. So we

00:49:15 --> 00:49:20

didn't see the rain. But we saw the ground wet. We inferred we it

00:49:20 --> 00:49:23

was a it was a calculation that we did with our mind is a syllogism.

00:49:23 --> 00:49:27

We put two and two together. And that's what we said it is. That's

00:49:27 --> 00:49:30

why we have many things of the unseen to believe in like the

00:49:30 --> 00:49:34

hereafter that we can't see with our senses. But we have to

00:49:34 --> 00:49:39

understand how can this world have been created without a person

00:49:39 --> 00:49:44

without a being rather, right who has the following capabilities

00:49:44 --> 00:49:47

because there's no way this world would have been so beautiful.

00:49:47 --> 00:49:49

Forget the entire well let's just look at some fruits right now.

00:49:50 --> 00:49:54

There are some people who have recognized Allah just by fruits

00:49:57 --> 00:49:59

look at the orange for example.

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Right, it's a simple fruit that we don't pay too much attention to.

00:50:05 --> 00:50:08

It's got a thick skin that's orange on the outside, white on

00:50:08 --> 00:50:11

the inside. When you remove that skin, there's still another layer

00:50:11 --> 00:50:16

that protects the different segments. The segments then have a

00:50:16 --> 00:50:21

skin. It's segmented into however many are perfectly placed together

00:50:21 --> 00:50:25

in that round shape. You you remove the segments, you separate

00:50:25 --> 00:50:28

the segments, then you take each individual segment, and you can

00:50:28 --> 00:50:32

remove the skin. And then inside it's not like a mango. But it's

00:50:32 --> 00:50:37

actually the flesh inside is made up of different

00:50:38 --> 00:50:42

however you describe that, alright, you look at a mango is

00:50:42 --> 00:50:46

completely different. It's solid inside, it's soft. You look at a

00:50:46 --> 00:50:50

watermelon, it's this many percent water, but look at the way it is.

00:50:51 --> 00:50:54

If you make that same thing into juice, it won't last for long. But

00:50:54 --> 00:50:57

if you leave the watermelon, it will last longer. You look at the

00:50:57 --> 00:50:58

jackfruits

00:51:00 --> 00:51:01

right.

00:51:02 --> 00:51:05

I don't really do much jackfruit but durian if anybody's had

00:51:05 --> 00:51:09

durian. It's an amazing fruit. It's got a very thick skin. Right?

00:51:09 --> 00:51:13

Very thick, prickly skin, you open it up, and it's got these concaves

00:51:14 --> 00:51:18

in which there is this, the flesh of the fruit inside, which is like

00:51:18 --> 00:51:24

cream. So amazing. But it's got a very bad smell. Right? How Allah

00:51:24 --> 00:51:27

just there was somebody who became Muslim just by observing fruit

00:51:27 --> 00:51:30

that there's no way this could have just been done in random

00:51:30 --> 00:51:34

without a god, somebody must have created this. Let me give you a

00:51:34 --> 00:51:38

few examples. Like if somebody says, if God loves us, then why

00:51:38 --> 00:51:41

should he not help us to understand him? Now think of this

00:51:41 --> 00:51:44

question somebody actually. Okay. So if God is supposed to be loving

00:51:44 --> 00:51:48

and everything merciful, and He loves us, then why shouldn't he

00:51:48 --> 00:51:50

help us to understand him? How would you answer that?

00:51:53 --> 00:51:57

How do you know? Exactly? You have to challenge the question.

00:51:58 --> 00:52:02

Basically, they're trying to tell you that God hasn't helped you.

00:52:02 --> 00:52:06

Now if you start answering no, but you know, why doesn't help us? Oh,

00:52:06 --> 00:52:10

you already get caught in the net. You already accept God hasn't

00:52:10 --> 00:52:12

helped us say, Well, how do you know God hasn't helped us cause

00:52:12 --> 00:52:15

he's helped us. He sent all of these prophets. He sent books he

00:52:15 --> 00:52:19

sent, he sends you evidences of proof signs from the cosmos, all

00:52:19 --> 00:52:22

of these things tell us that there's a God. So why are you

00:52:22 --> 00:52:26

saying that? There's no, that he hasn't helped us? That's just an

00:52:26 --> 00:52:29

assumption that you have. Don't ever get caught in assumptions,

00:52:29 --> 00:52:32

because not everything. That is an assumption is correct.

00:52:33 --> 00:52:37

Just because an atheist puts a question out there and criticizes

00:52:37 --> 00:52:41

God or religion doesn't mean it's true. Just because it sounds

00:52:41 --> 00:52:41

official.

00:52:43 --> 00:52:46

That's the problem that we just think that if somebody said it,

00:52:46 --> 00:52:49

hey, that must be a bigger, nobody must have answered it. There are

00:52:49 --> 00:52:52

even with regards to evolution, so many things have been answered.

00:52:52 --> 00:52:55

But the textbooks mentioned the same thing over and over again,

00:52:55 --> 00:52:59

they've been disproved various different graphs and various

00:52:59 --> 00:53:01

different things. They've been disproved, they still use them

00:53:01 --> 00:53:03

over and over again, if you don't know the answers, then you'll just

00:53:03 --> 00:53:04

be confused.

00:53:05 --> 00:53:08

A lot of these things have been answered, but we're just sitting

00:53:08 --> 00:53:11

back not doing anything. We need to take this and understand these

00:53:11 --> 00:53:12

things.

00:53:14 --> 00:53:18

Why should God punish you with eternal hellfire? If you have

00:53:18 --> 00:53:19

disbelieved in this world?

00:53:20 --> 00:53:21

Very common question.

00:53:23 --> 00:53:25

Well, that one you're going to have to answer, right, because

00:53:25 --> 00:53:28

very straightforward question. Well, one of the reasons is that

00:53:28 --> 00:53:32

God has given you enough time in this world to believe or

00:53:32 --> 00:53:38

disbelieve. And at the end of the day, if you have not believed, in

00:53:38 --> 00:53:40

30 years, 50 years, 40 years, because any child who dies, they

00:53:40 --> 00:53:44

don't that they're not considered to be in punishment anyway. So

00:53:44 --> 00:53:47

children out of this is only after you become discerning and become

00:53:47 --> 00:53:51

an adult, and that's when you're going to be that's where you're

00:53:51 --> 00:53:54

going to be liable. Right? So you're going to be accountable.

00:53:55 --> 00:53:59

The reason why you're punished forever, is because gopher has

00:53:59 --> 00:54:02

become your state. It's not an action anymore. It's not like I

00:54:02 --> 00:54:05

only did it for five years, it was only caffeine for 10 years or 20

00:54:05 --> 00:54:10

years. It's your state that's your *. That's who you are. Now,

00:54:10 --> 00:54:13

that's who you are. So that's a state is very powerful. It's

00:54:13 --> 00:54:15

that's very revealing about somebody.

00:54:17 --> 00:54:17

So

00:54:19 --> 00:54:22

some say if you have a merciful God, why is there suffering in the

00:54:22 --> 00:54:22

world?

00:54:23 --> 00:54:26

How would you answer that one? First thing is what is suffering?

00:54:26 --> 00:54:30

Let's decide what suffering is first. And why is suffering bad?

00:54:30 --> 00:54:32

Why are you making the big deal for why suffering bad isn't some

00:54:32 --> 00:54:35

suffering good actually makes you a better person if you suffer? It

00:54:35 --> 00:54:38

takes you down from your arrogant state like you because you got a

00:54:38 --> 00:54:41

lot of money or you got very you know, and you have to then suffer

00:54:41 --> 00:54:43

you like really think about yourself, there's a purpose behind

00:54:43 --> 00:54:46

suffering. Why should it be bad? Okay, some suffering may be

00:54:46 --> 00:54:48

considered bad, but why all suffering? What is that decision?

00:54:51 --> 00:54:54

So there's lots of answers like this, lots of questions like this.

00:54:55 --> 00:55:00

So I stop here. And my final thing is that what we need to do is we

00:55:00 --> 00:55:03

need to constantly to protect ourselves and our children we need

00:55:03 --> 00:55:05

to constantly remember Allah subhanho wa Taala the more we

00:55:05 --> 00:55:08

remember him inshallah the stronger he will be in our hearts.

00:55:08 --> 00:55:12

So the small small things will not faze us. Number two, we need to

00:55:12 --> 00:55:14

gain knowledge and we need to understand more about Allah deep

00:55:14 --> 00:55:17

reading of the Quran, especially the verses about Allah, they are

00:55:17 --> 00:55:21

very helpful. And other really good books on Islam and about

00:55:21 --> 00:55:24

Allah. They're very useful like, like, as I mentioned, this really

00:55:25 --> 00:55:26

gives a good modern understanding.

00:55:28 --> 00:55:30

And then number number three, don't get caught up with these

00:55:30 --> 00:55:35

questions. Right? You can't answer these things in a simple,

00:55:35 --> 00:55:38

simplistic way you have to challenge the assumptions and

00:55:38 --> 00:55:41

ideas and you will feel that if you have the confidence and the

00:55:41 --> 00:55:44

trust in Allah insha Allah you will be able to prevail. So you

00:55:44 --> 00:55:47

must have a lot of trust in Allah subhanho wa Taala We ask Allah

00:55:47 --> 00:55:51

subhana wa Taala to keep us straight, steadfast, along with a

00:55:51 --> 00:55:55

Bittner along with a Bitna a dean that's very important, robbing

00:55:55 --> 00:55:58

Allah to collude and bad data data no habla Nabila Adam Carolla in

00:55:58 --> 00:56:01

the country, Wahab, these are very important to us to make. So

00:56:01 --> 00:56:06

inshallah I stopped here. If you have any basic questions I can I

00:56:06 --> 00:56:12

can take it as long as hazard here allows. So the question is, the

00:56:12 --> 00:56:17

question is that if God is all powerful, then Why can he not

00:56:17 --> 00:56:21

build a can he build a stone or manufacture a stone that He cannot

00:56:21 --> 00:56:25

lift? Right? The same? To be honest, to be honest, it's the

00:56:25 --> 00:56:28

same question, Why can't he develop another God? Just like

00:56:28 --> 00:56:32

him? If he's so powerful? Why can't he do that? So this is a

00:56:32 --> 00:56:34

quite a simple question, to be honest. And there's a very simple

00:56:34 --> 00:56:35

answer to that.

00:56:37 --> 00:56:42

God is defined as being all powerful, that he can do whatever.

00:56:43 --> 00:56:47

Right. Now, there are two answers here. Number one, there can't be

00:56:47 --> 00:56:51

anything in existence. It's an absurdity. It's a logical fallacy,

00:56:51 --> 00:56:55

and absurdity for there to be anything that God can't do in

00:56:55 --> 00:57:00

existence. It's like asking the question that can you build? Can

00:57:00 --> 00:57:03

you design a square that is triangle?

00:57:06 --> 00:57:08

Can you have a triangle, which is square or a square, which is

00:57:08 --> 00:57:12

triangle? You can't, because by the very definition of what a

00:57:12 --> 00:57:15

triangle is, it's a three sided

00:57:16 --> 00:57:21

is a three sided shape. And a square is a four sided shape. So

00:57:21 --> 00:57:24

you can't say why you can't do that. Now, if you get the best

00:57:24 --> 00:57:27

mathematician and you are tricked, what is it trigonometry? Is that

00:57:27 --> 00:57:30

what you call it? And you tell them that you're not good enough?

00:57:30 --> 00:57:32

If you can't do that, it's just absurdity. It's a silly question

00:57:32 --> 00:57:36

to start with. Because God is all powerful by his very intrinsic

00:57:36 --> 00:57:40

nature. So if I say, Why can't God create another god is the same

00:57:40 --> 00:57:41

thing? Why?

00:57:43 --> 00:57:46

God, another intrinsic characteristic of Allah is that

00:57:46 --> 00:57:52

he's one. If he created another one, it'd be absurdity. Because it

00:57:52 --> 00:57:55

means he's no longer one anymore. You can't have the same as God.

00:57:55 --> 00:58:01

It's impossible because God is one, you can't have two, once you

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understand that unique ones, right? Because it's something

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else. These are absurd questions that are being asked like, if this

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is white, can you make that duck, but it's still white? It's just a

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silly question. And I'm not saying your question is silly. I'm saying

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the idea is a silly one. To say that because it's self defined.

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The other answer, which is like a simplistic answer is that why

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should God do something so stupid that is self defying? Why should

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he create a stony count lifts? But that's not really the strongest?

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That's not really a very good answer. Anyway, the main thing is

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that God has ability over all things that are possible.

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This is an image in conceivability. This is not even

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you can't even rationally think this thing. So the question is

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that the,

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the first part of your question was this we have science and

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science.

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That is the that is the way we know things. Right? Generally,

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science is the modern way by which we know things, and right now

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sciences and told us there's a God. Right? There's a number of

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problems with this question to start with, right? There's a

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number of assertions being made here, which are not entirely

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accurate. First of all, science, God is outside the realm of

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science. Science is based on right now on empiricism, which means,

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what things you can observe and test and repeat. Right? Can

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science, answer the question of beauty, aesthetics, what is

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beautiful and what is not built? That's a judgment that is a value

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judgment. Science can't answer that science can tell you how this

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thing is made. Right? And that this thing is so hard, and this

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thing is so tall or whatever. Science is not even there to

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answer this. This is not like a criticism of science to say that

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science doesn't deal with God. It's beyond the scope for science

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to deal with God. Because science doesn't tell you where things

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the purpose of things

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It tells you how things are, it doesn't tell you about the purpose

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of things. So

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science cannot, science cannot.

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Science cannot explain ethics, for example, because ethics is outside

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the realm of science. Right? How you should eat

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the ethics of eating the ethics of not cheating? How does science

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even deal with that? It's a different paradigm. That's a

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different idea whatsoever. So people have started saying, or

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study believing that science must be able to answer everything. But

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it can't answer everything. It has a limited scope. So these things

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are outside the science, limits of science. Muslims have never had a

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problem with science, Christians have had a problem with science.

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So when Christians have had a problem with science, people have

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thought if Christians have had a problem with science, Muslims, as

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another religion must have a problem with science as well. We

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don't, because we understand that science can only answer certain

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things, while

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it can answer other things. Number two, for Christian scientists,

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when they go into a laboratory, they have to leave their faith at

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the door. Right? Because it's not reconcilable for us, it's not a

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problem. Because for us, science doesn't deal with anything to do

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with God anyway. And then to say that

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they try to say that scientists are you saying that scientists

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aren't religious people,

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as many religious people as you have in the community in the

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society, the same proportion, there were two studies done on

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this, the same proportion of people, the same proportion of

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believers you find in people, as opposed to non believers, you will

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find the same proportion of believers among scientists over

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non believers in science. It just represents so if you believe and

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you do science, you can do it. And if you don't believe in science,

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and you you do, you will just come up with a different conclusion.

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But science has got nothing to do with God. Science can explain the

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universe but it can't explain why the universe

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like why is the universe that they can't explain that

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