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			Salam alaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. I'm not sure how many people are watching. But if you are
watching for the last two minutes, you just witnessed something awesome. What you ended up
witnessing was, the video was running. But the microphone, this awesome, beautiful microphone that
one of my students said, looks like our 2d two from Star Wars. It was muted. So you can hear what I
was saying. But I was still talking. So unless you're an expert at lip reading, you have no idea
what I just said. So let me kind of reset, I wanted to welcome everyone back to the column Hangout.
This is the week where we do a live q&a session here on Wednesdays, I wanted to apologize for the
		
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			different timing, it's 4pm, Central Time 5pm on the East Coast, and you know, 2pm, on the west
coast. So it's not an ideal time to have this live session. But there were just some scheduling, you
know, conflicts. I'm scheduled for a program later this evening here in my community. So we had to
kind of work around that. So I apologize for that, we're going to try as much as possible to keep
the timing as you know, regular as possible in the evening time. But occasionally, when we do even
have to kind of move around, it's no problem. Because as soon as the session is over, even if you're
watching and maybe you have to step away, or you can just share this with other people that you know
		
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			might not be able to watch right now. What we do is as soon as the session is over is recorded. And
if you go to the elements to Twitter, or you go to the LM Institute Facebook page, you'll be able to
find the link for the entire q&a session the entire recording in sha Allah. So without wasting any
more time, let's jump right into the questions so that we can answer as many questions as possible
in today's session, and wrap things up so y'all can get back to your lives.
		
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			So the first question we have was submitted to the LM Institute Facebook page.
		
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			Can the wife and husband pray together? For example, the night prayer or even mandatory prayers if
the husband cannot make it to the masjid? How does the husband How do the husband and wife pray
together? For example, can the wife pray beside the husband? Or she has to pray behind him? Or does
she have to pray behind him? And when starting to prayer, does the wife give the comma? Or can the
prayer start without the comma, the comma Of course, you know, the, the comet that is called for the
beginning of the prayer for the ultimate is solapur. The comet is sola. So let's go ahead and answer
this question first and foremost, as if you've watched a previous hangout or you have witnessed me
		
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			answering questions before, you know that I kind of like to take my time a little bit and explain
the issue at hand. Number one, it is extremely emphasized by the prophet of Allah sallallahu alayhi
wa sallam for men to pray their Fatah in their first obligatory five times daily prayer fudger
though hota Asada motive Aisha as much as possible for them to pray that in the masjid
		
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			for women, it is not mandatory women. In fact it is. The Prophet sallallahu Sallam has said that it
is a greater reward for them to pray at home, but at the same time very understandable for women to
pray in the masjid and attend to congregational prayer in the masjid. That's what many of the wives
of the Prophet salatu salam and the women of the Sahaba the Sahaba yet may Allah be pleased with
them. That's what they used to do. And the prophets, a lot of them told us Do not prohibit women
from coming to the masjid. And especially in our day and age, where there is a struggle in terms of
spirituality. It's very understandable if women from time to time want to attend a congregational
		
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			prayer, especially when there is a program that will be conducted before afterwards. So having said
that, I want to emphasize this because in the past, people have misunderstood what I'm saying. For
men, it is emphasized as much as possible to pray your prayers, your obligatory prayers five times a
day in the masjid in congregation. However, what if that is not possible? All right. So if that is
not possible, for whatever reason, a brother was not able to make it to the masjid for a prayer
Father lohana awesome mother who couldn't make it to the masjid for whatever reason.
		
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			And that brother is now praying that fund obligatory prayer at home? Is it permissible for the
husband and the wife? And especially if there's children involved? Is it permissible for them to
offer that prayer as a group as a congregation as a Gema? The answer to that question is yes, it is
permissible. And in fact, many of the scholars in the Football Hall, emphasize it and recommend it.
I personally would also recommend it just for the purpose of more unity in the home in the family,
to boost the spirituality of everyone in the family together as a family and to create an
environment of the prayer, especially when there are children involved. I most definitely would
		
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			recommend
		
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			praying together as a family as a group. Now, what is the procedure in doing so? So let's talk about
two different scenarios, a husband and a wife praying. And the second scenario is husband, wife and
children. There's three elements to that prayer. If it is just a husband and a wife praying, there's
a difference of opinion. Some of the football players, some of the scholars, they state that just
like when two brothers, two men, they pray together, one does not stand in front of the other,
rather than the Imam. In that prayer, there's two men praying, the moment that prayer stands to the
left, and maybe one step up. And then the other brother who is following in that prayer, stand to
		
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			the right, just maybe one step back, just a little bit back and forth,
		
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			to make sure that the mom is a little bit ahead of in front of the person that he's leading in the
prayer, some of the football hodza scholars state that a man and a woman like a husband and a wife,
not a random man and woman, that should go without saying, but a husband and a wife can pray in that
format, where the wife should just make sure that she is standing a little bit to the side and to
the back of the husband. However, some of the football ha say no, there is the issue, especially in
Hanafi Fiqh, there's the issue of we'll have that tomorrow. And what that basically states is that
the woman needs to be completely behind the man. And that's because that is also the procedure in
		
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			which the more congregational prayer the larger prayers also conducted, what I would advise to be on
the safe side of things because it is from the principles of fit for, you know, common folk for the
average Muslim, to avoid to include mentally steelapp to avoid the difference of opinion and to
abide by the safer position as much as possible, especially when it's a very small matter of this
nature, meaning it does not create a huge inconvenience in this regard. So what I would advise is,
if the husband was not able to make it to the masjid to pray in congregation in Juma he is at home
with his wife, what he should do in this situation is he should stand in the front, the wife should
		
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			stand behind him. And that's how they will pray that will be the physical layout of the prayer.
Secondly, there was a question about a karma. The woman does not call it karma. Women do not call
the other, nor do they call the karma. That is something that is reserved for men to do. And this
might seem a little bizarre to folks who have not witnessed it before. But it is completely
permissible for the same person, the mom to call the other to give the karma. And then to lead the
prayer, there's nothing, prohibiting that. And so in this scenario, the husband will call the oven,
if he wants to, he will call the comma. And he should call the comma. This is a congregational
		
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			prayer, he will call the comma. And then he will leave the prayer and the wife will stand behind
him. That is my recommendation. Second leaves there are children involved, then of course, if there
are some boys, if there's one son, he will stand to the right of the Father, and then the wife, and
if their daughters will stand behind, if there are two three sons, then the father will stand in the
front, the sons will make a row behind him. And then the women of the household, you know, sister,
mother, wife, daughters, will make the third row after the Imam. So this is how I recommend that
families pray at home together. There's a second question here, that is kind of embedded in there.
		
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			And that's talking about the night prayers, the 200 prayers up the um, prayers. One thing that needs
to be understood is while occasionally as a special, you know, event, some scholars some scholars do
permit for us to have a um prayers optional prayers in congregation, but that is definitely
something that should not be made a regular habit, the night prayers the optional prayers that the
hundreds of families for self personal reflection, when it is done in the month of Ramadan is
because it was established by the prophets a lot going on in the month of Ramadan. And that is the
exception to the rule. The general rule is individuals should pray this prayer individually for
		
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			personal self reflection. And so only the front prayer should be done in congregation as a family,
but the optional prayers whether they be some not or no often the night prayers, the Dodger prayers,
they should be done individual by all family members, and between the front prayers we have more
than enough opportunity to bond and to pray together as a family. And then finally, I would again
emphasize that you know, in our day and age where there's a it is difficult for families to bond and
to come together. It is extremely difficult for people to maintain their spirituality. You know, if
again, the husband first recommendation family should try to go to the masjid together. Families
		
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			from Laguna prairie shall go
		
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			together to the masjid as a family especially on the weekends on a Friday night, go to the masjid
together, pray as a family, communities and massage teacher organized family and I programs. It is a
great way for families to grow spiritually together. Secondly, if the husband the father is not able
to make it to the machine for the prayer, then if you are praying at home, I would emphasize pray
together as a family. It will help you bond spiritually together as a family. And Allah subhanaw
taala knows best.
		
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			The next question we have here is also submitted to the was submitted to the shalom Institute
Facebook page.
		
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			And this is kind of a lengthy question. So
		
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			I'm going to read through this, the more I encounter and observe Allah squadra less greatness, the
more My belief is strengthened. However, living and living in a largely atheistic, Northern European
country, I'm often posed the question how can you believe in God or in a god? When you are a
scientist? I'm often taken aback by such questions because the pursuit of scientific truth seems to
have taken a lot of my peers and teachers towards arrogance for at least in the
		
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			for at least in another direction than where I find myself. Partly owing to this and partly because
of my yearning to learn and contemplate Allah's message, I find myself increasingly disillusioned by
my university studies. Can you please help with an appropriate to offer sincerity, motivation and
hard work so that I can keep a balance between Deen and dunya? This seems to be the opposite problem
to what? She's referencing me up to Nasir. That's me right here, indicated towards in the last talam
hangout video about making concessions in Diem for dunya. I don't even know if this is a problem,
per se. So there's a few different issues. I'm going to split it up into two, I'm going to answer
		
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			the second question. First. First question is,
		
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			this is a constant challenge and a very common problem that is found for a lot of folks today. who
excel in the different secular sciences that we have the worldly sciences that we have, whether it
be medicine, or, you know, history, or whatever the case may be science in general, that there seems
to be this conflict with faith in science, religion and science. The second part of the question was
something that's very interesting, and that is,
		
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			I in the last video, I talked about how people might not make as many sacrifices in their, for the
sake of their spirituality, their Deen as they're willing to make in their union, the questioner
saying that I don't even know if this is a problem.
		
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			I understand it might not be a problem for you. But that's the issue of projecting it is a very,
very common problem for a lot of folks. And when I recorded the video, and the message that I had
was based off of the feedback that I do receive from folks. So it definitely is a problem. And if
anybody wants to just, you know, get some food for thought, check out the last column hangout video,
right now I want to answer this this question this person's question in particular.
		
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			And that is
		
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			because of this
		
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			conflict that is viewed between religion and science or even one's profession once University
worldly education, and it seems to be at odds, it seems to be at conflict with one's religion and
spirituality and devotion, dedication to God, there's this question a lot of people have have, I'm
just losing motivation. I don't see the purpose and the benefit of getting my master's degree and,
you know, biomedical engineering, getting my PhD in, you know, psychology, you know, getting my law
degree becoming a medical doctor, there seems to be this conflict in this regard. What I want to
emphasize to this person is, number one, your question might be arising from a legitimate concern,
		
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			you really do have to take a look, because sometimes in the pursuit of one's you know, education,
and even the pursuit of one's livelihood, it could be one's career, if you're dedicating 1012 hours
a day, and you're not even making enough time to pray five times a day on time, and to recite, some
are on for 20 minutes to make some morning and evening, a thought daily due to Allah,
		
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			then you have a legitimate concern, you do have an imbalance in your life that you need to correct.
But a lot of times, and I was just talking to a student about this, and, you know, one of the
personal, the personal students that I have, I was I was talking to the student about this that, you
know, a lot of times we're a community of extremes, we bounce from one extreme to the other. So we
go from an extreme of, you know, going to school or working 12 hours a day, 14 hours a day, not even
having time for five times daily prayer to then coming to a crisis. And then what do we do we end up
switching over to the opposite extreme and now
		
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			I want to give up my job. I want to give up my studies. I want to give up my education I want to
have been in my family. And all I want to do is pray and read Quran and study Islam for the rest of
my days. It's a very unhealthy attitude, because it's not sustainable. It is not sustainable. I'm
not that's not to say some people don't dedicate their lives to these causes. They have, you know, a
Buddha in the Allahu taala and who dedicated themselves to preserving the life in the words of the
prophets a lot he sent them that is there, but at the same time, there are some needs and
necessities in the cleanup stick alika Hakuna galica Hakuna cleanups were the only galica Hakuna
		
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			Anika Anika happen the profits a lot he said was telling us a hobby a companion of the Prophet peace
and blessings be upon him. He was advising the Sahaba or the loved one who that you yourself have a
right upon yourself. Your wife has a right your husband has a right your children have a right your
family your parents have a right the Sahaba who came to the profits a lot of reasons to go for
jihad. He said that? Are your parents still alive? And he said no I'm both of them are alive. He
said for FEMA fauja head, then go do jihad in regards to your parents by serving your parents. So we
have to have balance in our lives. Secondly, we also have to understand that there is not one way to
		
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			serve the need of Allah subhanaw taala. But by being productive, active, contributing members of
society by not being a burden on society, you know, many of our scholars in some of the countries
where this has become a mentality and an issue where people will resort to not working and living on
welfare, so that they can pray five times a day in the masjid. And they can, you know, read put on
for four hours a day and they can just, you know, dedicate their lives to Deen and they don't work
and they have family, they still want to fulfill, of course, the sin of marriage. And they want to
fulfill the Sunnah, of course of having children, and all of these things, they resort to, you know,
		
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			taking welfare and you know, we as Muslims are the ones who need to be contributing to society and
not be a burden on society. If somebody truly is struggling, and they go to welfare, that's
understandable. But if I'm a competent, intelligent, you know, physically active, resourceful
individual, what it's used to, I have not to go out there and at least earn a living, and, and
support my family properly and be able, you know, giving sadaqa is always better than receiving
sadaqa giving charity is better than receiving charity, that's something that needs to be kept in
mind. So and then also, you as you know, somebody who learns and teaches, you know, in the
		
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			community, that is my role of one of a student and a very, you know, small teacher within the
community, I'll tell you something, I oftentimes to answer any questions that I might have to
supplement conversations, or, or, you know,
		
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			things that I'm teaching to the community, as a supplemental resource, and even for my own
education, my own information, I have to go to attorneys, I have to go to medical doctors, I have to
go to scientists, I have to go to these individuals, because they enhance our ability to understand
the poor, understand the life of the prophets a lot he saw them, and practically apply it in our
lives, in our societies in our day and age. So you have a lot to contribute. It's just a matter of
two things. Number one, like I was saying, have balance, have balance in your life, make sure that
you do have your individual relationship with Allah, and you are learning and praying and growing
		
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			every single day. And that will help you, you know, counteract this spiritual
		
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			this this spiritual hole that you are feeling. Number two is that intention is very important in the
mala, mala Binette, somebody could pray and learn and teach all day long, but if they have the wrong
intention, the Hadith of the prophets a lot ism tells us about a teacher of the Quran being one of
the first people that will be brought before humanity on the Day of Judgment, and will be thrown and
flung into the fire of * because of the lack of sincerity in that person's efforts. On the other
hand, somebody could be contributing something that doesn't seem very religious in its essence, but
if their intention is to benefit the community and to serve Allah subhanaw taala in that capacity,
		
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			that means that that that in and of themselves, that in and of itself could become their Jihad and
their means of coming closer to Allah. So correct your intention, fix your intention. Thirdly, I'll
add a third point. We also have to understand that this is part of the balance of life. Honorable
hombre de la, none of us serve the deen as much as you love what you did. But what about the loved
one who himself says he had a routine? his routine was that one day he would spend learning and
sitting in the company with the profits a lot of these on the second day he would go and he would
work in the fields he was. He farmed as a career as a job, Abubakar, the Allahu taala, who had to be
		
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			forced to not go out into the marketplace and sell clothing as a cloth merchant
		
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			and sit down and basically
		
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			Be a full time califa for the oma yet to be forced to do that.
		
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			So we have to understand the Sahaba had a much better and a much more sound understanding of the
religion than we did when those three young Sahaba took an oath that I'm never going to marry. I'm
never going to sleep at night I'm going to pass a reasonable date. The prophets a lot of them not
only corrected them and reprimanded them, but he was very upset with them. donation describes he was
very upset he reprimanded them very severely, and then explained to them what was correct, because
that type of mentality and thinking can make the religion unpractical lateral urbania defend Islam
we don't have the idea in Islam of becoming a monk and not existing and living in the real world.
		
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			That concept does not exist within Islam. So just try to number one, like I said, find balance
number two, fix your intention. Number three, understand this need and necessity of life and then
actually look for every opportunity you can get to actually contribute to Islam with whatever
specialization or education or career means that you do have.
		
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			Along with this, there was a question that was submitted on the YouTube channel where these videos
are posted. How can we use our pursuits and secondary knowledge slash education to serve Islam?
After high school I decided to spend some years on havens, which means memorizing the Quran. I feel
hesitant to return to secondary studies and spending so much time and effort for worldly studies.
Exactly what I just said. That really understand how you can best contribute you yourself can be
sound, contribute to society, take care of responsibilities, and then purify your intention and then
try to contribute to the deen in whatever capacity you can. And may Allah subhanaw taala help us all
		
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			be a means of benefiting and you know, benefiting the deen and helping people live, you know, Islam
properly.
		
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			The next question that we have here
		
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			is
		
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			I have a friend who's eemaan is very shaky. She has questioned her belief in Allah. Her reason for
wearing the hijab.
		
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			Was was that Maria?
		
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			Maria
		
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			come in tight.
		
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			Sorry about that everybody who's watching and going to be watching the video later.
		
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			Maryam just came back from school so
		
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			I think she wanted to come by see Salaam I think she's busy now. So I have a friend who's eemaan is
very shaky. She has questioned her belief in the law, her reason for wearing the hijab, she does not
feel she's living up to it living up to it. And in general, she's very depressed and anxious. And in
her words broken because of my inner conflict. This has been going on for more than a year and this
summer she says that if she does not decide on the hijab, she will take it off. I'm very worried for
her and she trusts me enough to confide this in me. Thus far I've been I've just been very
supportive and positive for her and advising her whatever she does to always ask Allah for guidance.
		
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			At this point, she believes in the law but is not sure about religion. Religious people in quotation
marks religious people have judged her and she does not want to hang out with them or the quotation
marks MSA types. There's another question that we received that wasn't was submitted to our Facebook
page. Another question that was asked on our YouTube channel was can you give more specific examples
from the Sunnah
		
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			for people to understand how the prophets Allah adjusted his method, and manner of treatment to the
different people, for instance, when de la haine, which is basically just means farmers, or the
Badawi people which means villagers country, folk, country bumpkins, like myself from Texas, used to
come and ask questions, how he sallallahu alayhi wa sallam a peace and blessings be upon him would
respond versus the people of Medina and in incidents such as people defining defiling the masjid,
etc, etc, and others. So, I thought that these questions were somewhat closely related. And I'm
going to answer that both these questions kind of here together in this little
		
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			you know, this little rant that I'm going to have now if you will. Number one is this question about
a sister having a friend who is conflicted about her job and how to exactly Um,
		
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			so and
		
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			how to exactly help her find confidence in practicing singer hijab Mashallah, it sounds like this
friend of the questioner is wearing they're wearing her job right now. But she feels very
conflicted. She feels very, you know, just she's questioning herself and doubting herself in terms
of wearing a hijab.
		
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			What I would emphasize is, number one, when we have conversations with people about things like
prayer, about job, about things that are mandatory within our religion, things that are law and as
messengers allottee Some have obligation
		
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			need us to do, a lot of times our conversation centered around the fact that it is mandatory, and it
is obligatory look, you have to understand how to talk to people, I'm not talking about changing the
fact that something is mandatory or obligatory. We don't change that fact, we don't beat around the
bush about that, that is mandatory, that is obligatory, it is fun. I mean, Allah subhanho wa Taala
woman rasuna he fish fishery is something that is mandatory within the religion of Islam, and in the
code of law that we call Sharia. However, at the same time, what needs to also be understood is how
do you communicate that to someone? And how do you talk to somebody who is struggling with that
		
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			question?
		
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			And I have people come to me sometimes who will say, you know, I know somebody who is, you know, in
engaging in this sin, something that is hot, or somebody that is drinking alcohol or doing something
that is wrong.
		
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			I know someone who is, you know, does not pray five times a day, how do I talk to them about that,
and, or rather, they'll come to me and say, I know somebody's doing something wrong, I know somebody
who is not doing something that is mandatory.
		
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			And so what I want you to do, Brother, don't tell me what I want you to do, what they want me to do,
is they want me to give them all the I ops and all the ahaadeeth that prove that this is how wrong
or this is fun, and give me like 15 of them and I'm gonna go them and I'm gonna beat them over the
head with one after another, the profits are awesome said you can't do this the profits and that's
how long the process that's how long the profits that you got to do it, you got to do it, you got to
do it. And, you know, that might work for that person who is asking me for these resources. And you
know, Mashallah, you know, to each his own different strokes for different folks, I don't know what
		
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			else to tell you. But I will tell you one thing that does not work for everyone, I would go as far
as saying that does not work for most people. That does not work for most people, you have to
understand that. A lot of times what's very important for us to share with people and disposition is
not the fact that it is mandatory, they probably do know that it's mandatory, this is your probably
realizes that otherwise, you wouldn't be conflicted if she was doing something optional, that she
found difficult or uncomfortable or not sure she was, she lacks certainty about it, she would have
given it up a long time ago. But the fact that she's still hanging in there proves the fact that she
		
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			knows this is mandatory, but rather we need to provide for that we need to provide them with the
proper motivation to actually keep doing this, and why they should be doing it, not the fact that it
is mandatory, but what is the benefit in it for them. And so in this particular case, explaining to
them demonstrating to them that this is something that helps them come closer and their relationship
with the law. This is something that puts them closer to the example of the mothers of the
believers, the wives of the prophets a lot he sent him, the role models for our women. This is
something that will bring them closer to the example of such amazing people. This is something that
		
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			makes him closer and more beloved to Allah. This is something that she does only and only for the
sake of Allah. Now for those religious people, judgmental people, not for, you know, some bad people
or good people or that person or this person. No, no, no, this has nothing to do with anyone. This
is solely between her and ally and her relationship with Allah. This allowed me to cover my head, my
sister could ask as well, Anita sister to cover a woman to cover her head. A lot doesn't need
anything.
		
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			But it's a gesture of respect to obedience, gratitude and sacrifice that we make to Allah. That's
what it is. You know, I have family members, do I need my wife to get me a gift on aid? Do I need my
kids to make me something, you know, pretty, like a drawing at school that they bring home for me.
And I say, look, I drew this for you, I made this Do I need need that I don't need that. But it's
something I appreciate. It's something that they it is a means for them to demonstrate their love
for me. Now of course, for a while the lightning method Liliana Lisa committee, he there's no
example no parallel to our relationship with the love. But I'm just trying to explain the concept of
		
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			devotion and dedication, a gesture of respect, and love and appreciation and obedience to Allah. And
this is a gesture of respect. And so that's something that I will try to explain it in these terms.
Number one, number two, sister said something very awesome here in the question. She said, I've been
very supportive and positive and advising her that whatever she does, always ask Allah for guidance.
Awesome. Keep doing that. See, a lot of times people just need when somebody comes to you. And you
know, Todd has a long, heartfelt conversation with you. I'm doing this but I'm really struggling
with it. They don't maybe necessarily need a solution or an answer. They just need a shoulder to cry
		
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			on. They just need somebody to be there. Put an arm around their shoulder and say, You know you hang
in there. You're awesome. You're doing a good job, my shoulder
		
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			I'm here with you, I'm here for you. I'm always here for you to talk to. Everybody needs that I
talked about this in one of the, I believe in the previous lm hangout session or somewhere, and all
sorts of blurred together after a while. But we'll quickly a lot of times, you know, we have this
attitude that when somebody you know, has a problem or is troubled by something or conflicted by
something, that that some way somehow is a weakness of faith, that a real true believer wouldn't
even need, you know, to, to to need for counsel or advice or support or comforting, completely
false, completely bogus. Allah subhanaw taala in the Quran comforts and controls the prophets a lot
		
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			he set up. We've been talking about this and I remember we've been talking about this in the senior
class we've been talking about the year of grief and sorrow fillet zoom, Coco Luma, Angela Alico,
Parana little scar.
		
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			Well, adna Allah, Monica de PUE, Sadhguru can be my aku Allah tells the Prophet says, I understand
you're hurting, I understand this is difficult, don't pay attention to them, I'll take care of them
for you. We want you to be happy. We don't want to ruin your life. Allah says this to the prophets a
lot he said I'm so sometimes people need somebody to just be supportive and and listen to them and
comfort them and control them and try to be there for that person, through your support through your
own good example, your own positive, you know,
		
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			friendship and companionship and support, that person will find the strength that they need to
inshallah continue. And secondly, even if you do have a conversation, emphasize how this is so
beneficial to this person, in terms of their relationship with Allah, and that'll help them more
than anything else.
		
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			The second question that I kind of grouped with this was how to talk to different types of people.
That's exactly what I'm talking about. You know, the prophet of Allah allottee. Someone he dealt
with intellectual demand, the modern intellectual leader of his people came to the profits, a lot of
the profits a lot of them recited the hood, but to hajer to the mat. And hamdulillah number two who
went there, you know, who when I saw fit, who were not meant to be in a man's life or changed, when
to fail from a dose came to the prophet Elijah, you're signing up for onto him, and a profound
impact on him using intellectual as an educated man. When the prophets a lot of them dealt with
		
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			Buddha, they thought he was a very intelligent man. He recited the Quran to him and intellectually
engaged with him.
		
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			But when the veteran came in urinated in the machine, the profits a lot of them he was just nice to
him. When the veterans would come to the profits a luxury say, yeah, Muhammad, he would say yes,
what do you want? He will talk to them in a similar fashion or similar manner. engage with them at
the level they were at when the profits allows him to talk to children? Yeah, about homemade
MacFarlane knew he would rhyme and you would joke with them and be like, Oh, boy, oh, man, what
happened to the little birdie that you had?
		
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			Cute, that's how we would converse with them and talk to them.
		
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			You know, so that we have to understand it is from the prophets allottee. Some says NZ NASA, NASA
home, engage and deal with people according to their level, where they're at? What do you mean NASA
hydrocone him and speak to people according to the level of their understanding.
		
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			So it's very important to be relevant with people and to deal with people at their level. Just
recently, you know, in the CFO lectures not too long ago, and even for on weekly, the last recording
that we had the video that we released, I talked about how the profits allow you some wrestle
demand. The man was a wrestler, if the profits allow you to want to sit down with him Alhamdulillah
nama do want to start a new one. So food is at home. You know, you wouldn't alone what he was
talking about you and understood he wouldn't even been interested. So the profits, a lot of some
wrestled with him, pick them up and body slander. And he goes, that's a language you understand, as
		
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			the language you speak, the profits along the sudden through down with the man, you know, the
profits a lot he sent him, you know, he would mix it up with people, he would accommodate people, he
would understand people and engage with people at that level. And so it's very important for us to
understand that as well. And this kind of goes back to how to give dow or talk to people about the
religion. The last little thing I want to talk about this before I move on is the quotations
religious people. I'm not gonna say MSA type. That's unfortunate. You know, that's kind of a
generalization. I've, you know, some of the most amazing brothers and sisters, I've come across
		
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			inspirational people that I've met, are, have been very involved with the MSA are involved with the
MSA, learn what they learn to the MSA came up through the MSA. So some of the most amazing people
even till today that I know, are very involved, you know, with their local MSA is but understand
that,
		
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			like people, it's a very mixed bag of people. It's a very diverse group of people. And so you might
have come across a couple of bad folks, but don't, you know, understand everyone to be the same.
It's just not fair. It's a generalization. It's a stereotype you
		
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			have to be careful that we don't do the same exact thing that we are upset with other people for
doing when somebody, you know, just generalizes and stereotypes and treats us everybody in a group,
you know kind of groups everyone together paints him with a broad brush and treats them badly, we
have to make sure we don't do the same thing the next time I see somebody with a goofy on. Next time
I see a brother with a beard. Next time I see a sister with the hijab, or I see somebody part of the
MSA as I make sure I don't pass that same type of judgment, because that's not fair. I'm doing the
same thing that somebody did to me, that doesn't make the world a better place that makes a world a
		
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			worse place. So let's let's try to be careful about that.
		
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			But in terms of judgmental people, that's the one that we can pick on judgmental people and
judgmental people exist on both sides of the spectrum on all in all different groups and segments of
society. Judging somebody is very bad. Nobody is a judge. We are not the judge. We are not the
judge, we are not the jury, and we most definitely are not the executioner, we are all on trial
before Allah subhanaw taala we are all answerable to Allah, we are all, you know, accountable to
Allah. And that's the thing we have to remember, if somebody judges somebody, advise them not to do
so it's really not fair. But at the same time, if somebody judges somebody, you're better just
		
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			saying kalu Salomon just see salame, move about your business, go on about your way. And make sure
you never make that same mistake yourself. There's again, not to just, you know, repeat material,
there's another per our weekly video that are recorded. That was actually recorded at the an
intensive at the Summer Program.
		
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			It's called judging people or judging others, something of that nature or Alaska, one of the folks
to post that video on the column, Facebook page and Twitter. But I would definitely take a look at
that in that I talked about from the story of musante salam, from the life of the prophets, a lot of
him and even somebody that I personally met. were, you know, judging in the harms that there are in
judging people. So let's try to be very careful about that.
		
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			The next question that we have is,
		
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			excuse me just a second. So making sure, okay. The next question, this question was emailed into us.
The question is, my question is about purchasing a home in the US. I'm currently a college student,
and inshallah I intend to purchase a home in two or three years, I'm saving up and everything. But
I'd like to know what the religion says about purchasing a home in a country like the US where you
cannot really get away from interest in all caps, the rulings on loans and so forth. So, very
awesome question.
		
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			What I want to again, say is interest about interest usury interest LIBOR is not permissible, it is
not permissible and not permissible and not permissible. It is something to put on in the words of
the prophets, a lot of them are very clear about in the few exceptional cases where there might be
some type of extenuating circumstances or whatever the case may be. Those even those are debated,
the validity of those are debated. But understand this much, those are talking about very extreme
circumstances. What I'm about to say might not be pleasant might not be awesome, might not be very,
you know, convenient. But this forum is so that I can answer a question very honestly, without
		
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			feeling like I'm stepping on anyone's toes.
		
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			I generally speaking with again, very rare exception, extremely rare exception, I do not find it
necessary.
		
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			In 99.9% of situations, I do not find it necessary to take interest to take a loan. I just do not
find the necessity for it.
		
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			Because if we're talking about where we live, we're talking about buying a home purchasing a home,
you can live in an apartment, you can rent a home, I realize there are 10,000 articles online that
will talk about how renting is washing your money down the drain. Maybe you know your your elders in
your family are gonna say the same thing. Make the same argument. I would very respectfully
disagree. I would very respectfully disagree why I'm not arguing the finances of it even though
there are arguments for the finances of it. But what I will argue is that
		
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			we have two considerations here. Quality of Life, which I don't even completely agree with. But
let's just say for the sake of the argument, quality of life, on one hand, requires me to take a
loan on interest and buy a home. On the other hand, we have my Deen my religion, my spirituality, my
relationship with Allah.
		
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			There are sacrifices that are made for both things. And sometimes they're required sacrificing the
other for the sake of one.
		
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			I find it completely, I find it very, very acceptable and admirable, and without a doubt preferable
that I sacrifice a little bit in terms of my quality of life, for the sake of my relationship with
Allah.
		
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			I'll tell you personally, I lived my entire life in an apartment complex, I grew up I was when I was
born, my parents lived in an apartment, I lived my whole life in their apartment. And later on, even
when we kind of grew up, and we needed a little bit more space, there was a townhome, there was a
duplex, we rented it,
		
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			we rented it. And that's something that I would very strongly advise you to consider. Especially
you're talking about being a college student. And in two to three years, you do not want to start
your life that way. You're going to be new in your career, you're probably going to be getting
married at that time, maybe having your first kid you're gonna be starting your life in debt, with
no understanding and consideration and no real idea of what what awaits further down the road, don't
put yourself in that type of a hole that is very difficult to crawl out from from at, you know,
later on. So be very smart, very intelligent about it make, you know very small, very honestly, to
		
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			very small sacrifices. But they are sacrifices, make sacrifices in order for your own financial
security, for your peace of mind, and especially for your deen in your spirituality. If somebody is
dealing with a circumstance, I knew a brother who had I believe his brother had about nine kids,
Mashallah, Mashallah.
		
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			And he was, he's actually on a personal level, he's one of my role models, somebody I really, really
look up to, he was like a big brother to me growing up. And so he did not want to take any type of,
you know, a loan or buy a house. But he eventually got to a point where he was, you know, the
apartments wouldn't lease an apartment to him anymore. Not even a big three bedroom apartment.
because too many people, even most home owners would no longer rent a home to him, because they felt
he had too many people living in the home. So he was backed into a corner where it was like, he
wouldn't have a place to live, he was getting evicted by the landlord by the owner by, you know,
		
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			having too many people living in the house, which he said was a violation of the lease, or he would
have to buy a home.
		
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			I sat down with his brother later on. And I kind of I told him, you know, he was in a very difficult
situation, I mean, that the safety of his family was in was in question here. So if somebody does
fall into this type of a circumstance or situation, then there are, you know, there are initiatives,
companies that are there in the Muslim community in America, who tried to provide,
		
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			you know, Sharia compliant financing. And are they perfect? No. But from a couple of them that I've
met, and that I've spoken to, I do feel that there are people who are sincerely trying their best.
So that's the route I would recommend if somebody isn't that severe of a circumstance, but even
then, for the sake of just comfort and luxury, I would say you're still taking on debt, which is not
advisable under any circumstance. A couple of my students Hamdulillah, who are part of our team here
at lm Institute, they've actually launched a project called debt free Muslims, I would recommend you
go to debt free muslims.com. Again, we'll post a link on the Harlem Institute Facebook page, go to
		
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			debt free muslims.com. It's an initiative, it's a very much needed discourse in the Muslim
community, discussion in the Muslim community about just the harms of just being in debt, aside from
all the shitty our non shediac complaint, but debt, how it is harmful, how the Koran advises us
about it, how the prophets allowed him, you know what he told us about it, and then also very
practical recommendations of how somebody can get out from under debt, and how somebody can avoid
living in debt. So go to debt free muslims.com, they have an E book, it's like a 3040 page ebook
that is for free, it is absolutely free, it will not take but more than 30 seconds of your time to
		
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			log on and download the E book, but it's something that I can almost promise you will find extremely
beneficial to you inshallah. So definitely check that out, download the E book, posted on your
Facebook, on your Twitter, spread the word about it, email, friends about it, tell friends about it.
And it's something we need to talk about in the Muslim community.
		
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			The last and the final question, and I'm going to end the hangout with this particular question.
		
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			So, the question is, what do you suggest for those of us women who would like to and are qualified
to apply for some studies program, but cannot leave spouses or kids for a year to study? At lm
Institute? Can you recommend more local resources and or remote Skype style options this comment was
left on the YouTube channel where these videos are posted on our YouTube channel.
		
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			So
		
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			a lot of y'all might have heard about our our full time Islamic Studies program that we're starting
up Gollum Institute in sha Allah hamdulillah. If you don't know, definitely check it out. If you
look at the LM Institute website where you are probably watching this video, or if you're watching
your later recording, we'll put a link for this in the description of the video. So you'll find it
in the description of the video. Otherwise go to Calum Institute. org. At the top you'll find the
link for Islamic Studies program, click that this is to address a very important relevant need in
our communities.
		
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			We need leadership we need qualified, competent, trained, educated leadership in our communities
from a spiritual perspective.
		
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			There's there's very high demand and very low supply. And we want to empower young people or people
from any background.
		
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			To be able to lead communities properly. We want to alleviate the severe need for leadership in our
Muslim community. But I'd be remiss, I'd be honest, if I did not share one other concern with you.
this newfound desire and demand for leadership in the Muslim community. The demand for such
leadership and also the desire to serve the Muslim community can be a great gift can be a huge
blessing, or it could end up proving to be a huge curse for the community. Let me explain how
		
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			I'll use youth directors as an example. We need you directors we need brothers and sisters, to be
educators to be youth mentors. And you know to be a, you know, counselors in the Muslim community,
we need it. And communities are now increasingly starting to ask for it and more and more young
people want to serve in that capacity.
		
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			But if we do not provide the taleem and the tibia, proper Islamic education in the fundamental Sonic
sciences, they don't know the Parana they don't know the Arabic language. They don't know the
Sierra, they don't know how to eat and tafsir and Fiq and swollen aqeedah they don't and Islamic
history, they don't know these basics.
		
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			Then you're basically putting somebody in a position to lead to educate to serve. Without them. Even
knowing the basics. I'm not talking about somebody being an island and a scholar and a chef, and
then a llama and a Mufti. I'm not talking about that, because the need for those people are there.
And that role is very defined. But I'm talking about those people who work under the supervision of
scholars in the capacity of assistante moms are the moms of smaller communities, massage directors,
sisters, educators thought to be a counselors. If we do not have if those folks do not have this
proper grounding within the religion. Number two, they don't have to be they have not been trained
		
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			and taught and mentored and taught love and respect and, and discipline and accountability and
spiritual accountability before a lot. And they don't work under the supervision with the advice and
the counsel of Hsu and scholars and mentors, then they're stepping into a role they're not ready for
and either they will crash and burn. Or they might end up passing on and influencing people in an
incorrect manner and passing on incorrect information, which will lead to greater problems down the
road, we'll have a mess to clean up a bigger mess to clean up down the road. So it's something that
needs to be addressed. And we need to do it for both brothers and sisters. This is a huge lack of
		
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			sisters. I mean, what what program do we have that is providing full time training for sisters to be
able to educate and lead in the Muslim community another my leading prayers I'm talking about
leading women, educating women in the Muslim community answering their question solving their
problems educating them in Islam. We don't have it, and we need it. We yesterday we needed sisters
already serving that role for the women in our community. But we don't even yet have a place where
they can get educated and trained properly.
		
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			And so for brothers and sisters is a huge need. So hamdullah we decided to, you know, do whatever we
could whatever was in our capacity to make whatever sacrifices needed to be made, investments needed
to be made in order to have a place where we could teach and we could educate such people. So
hamdulillah we're launching the Calum Institute Islamic Studies Program is a one year full time
program, somebody might be skeptical, how much can a person learn in learning one year, we have
prerequisites to the program, which somebody will have to have studied a certain amount of thing is
a certain amount of knowledge, before they can even apply to the program that we feel, requires a
		
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			person to already have done a lot of work,
		
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			and then come to this program, so that inshallah one year we can maximize that opportunity and
really teach and train people properly to be able to go back and serve in that capacity,
		
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			you know, serve the community in that capacity to serve the deen in that capacity inshallah. So
that's definitely something to check out. And to answer this person's question.
		
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			It's not only for women, maybe even some brothers might have some commitments, and they're not able
to,
		
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			what do I recommend, number one legal local resources, definitely something I recommend, we only put
this program into place because in full time, you can achieve a lot more than you can part time, in
a shorter amount of time. You can maximize and optimize, you know, your your your time and your
approach and your energy and resources. But don't underestimate, you know, the benefit of local
resources. I was just a couple of days ago, I was talking to students about, you know, how we take
local resources for granted. Just last night, I was having a conversation with some of our local
scholars and locally, moms about how it's very unfortunate that a lot of folks will follow hype.
		
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			But they don't actually benefit from their local resources. I mean, in many, many communities are
extremely knowledgeable people, they might not be on YouTube, they might not have hundreds of 1000s
of views on YouTube, they might not be extremely popular on Facebook or Twitter. But that does not
mean that they lack knowledge, or they lack the understanding of the religion. But a dedicated
student will find those people sit with those people and benefit from those people, it might may
take more time, it might not be the most, you know, appealing and glitzy and glamorous thing, or
approach to seeking knowledge, but does not mean that it's any less valuable. So seek out any local
		
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			resource that you have, in terms of remote or Skype. That's another approach, I do have students in
the community across the US who are serving the community, they're already actively serving, and
they feel overwhelmed by their role in the capacity that they serve, they might not have the option
because of work or family or their obligations, where they can just completely leave everything and
come here and study for here for a year or two years. So what happens is, I have these personal
students that I teach, you know, through the phone through Skype, and you know, Google hangout and
things like this. So I would definitely advise that sometimes you might come across somebody you
		
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			think you can benefit from, that person is willing to teach you, you might have some distance
between you. But that's definitely an option in a way to be able to approach that education in sha
Allah. So it's just a matter of being resourceful and seeking out those opportunities. But again, I
will emphasize for folks who want to serve the community in a full time capacity, make time to learn
and be educated and get trained, because you're not doing yourself or anyone else any favors when
you're running into a burning building. And you don't even know how to use the equipment that you
have. Or you just run into a burning building with no equipment whatsoever, let alone any training
		
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			on how to use that equipment.
		
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			You might end up killing yourself and harming a lot of other people along the way as well. So be
very cautious and careful in regards to that. May Allah subhanaw taala give us the ability to
practice everything that was said and heard. I hope everyone benefited from the column live q&a
hangout session that we're concluding. Remember, if you want to submit questions to be answered here
in the Hangout, if you've already submitted questions, and we didn't answer them, you see, we're
crunched for time. So we're gonna get to your questions. We do not dispose of your questions. We
have a whole list of questions we're going to keep, you know, plowing through those questions.
		
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			That's the purpose of this session and and inshallah we do offer us time willing, we'd like to
increase these sessions as well have multiple sub sessions, so that we can answer more and more
questions. I'm extremely excited about bringing on guests who will be you know, we're compiling
questions that might be related specifically to youth. So to bring, bring, bring on one of the
sessions, somebody who specialized in working with youth to answer a lot of youth related questions,
sisters question be able to bring on, you know, maybe one or two students that have more advanced
students that have you that can answer more sensitive sisters questions,
		
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			and so on and so forth from every different angle where
		
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			Excited, inshallah we're working with different scholars and specialists of different backgrounds to
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			with another live q&a session. Until next time, just below head on. We're going to be making this
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