Abdal Hakim Murad – Abdul Ghani bin Ismail alNablusi Paradigms of Leadership

Abdal Hakim Murad
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The transcript discusses various aspects of the Middle East, including modernity and cultural collapse. It provides insight into figures such as Jesus Christ's importance in the holy Bible and Hanbali school, and discusses the importance of finding the middle way to pursue spiritual transformation. The transcript also touches on the significance of not having any current experiences and not being in a state of stillness to achieve spiritual transformation.

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			So we're moving through this,
		
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			complex galaxy of,
		
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			lights that still shine from long ago from
		
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			the, almost incomprehensible,
		
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			sort of cornucopia
		
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			of luminaries
		
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			that
		
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			has been preserved for us by our historians
		
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			from the
		
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			long centuries of the Muslim past. And at
		
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			every point, we've been trying to
		
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			triangulate to our own situation
		
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			from the accomplishment
		
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			of those past great ones. And we've already
		
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			seen
		
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			the, remarkable, perhaps even,
		
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			baffling diversity
		
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			of Muslim types.
		
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			We started off by commenting on the,
		
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			Quranic celebration
		
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			of difference.
		
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			Difference in cosmos,
		
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			difference in humanity.
		
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			The difference of your
		
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			tongues and colors.
		
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			And also of human types.
		
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			Every single human being by the divine decree
		
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			has his or her misege
		
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			needed according to a particular
		
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			set of spiritual
		
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			possibilities,
		
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			and also according to inheritance factors. We certainly
		
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			believe in inheritance.
		
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			The
		
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			genetic DNA shuffling at the moment of conception
		
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			is part of the divine desire that no
		
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			two human beings shall be the same.
		
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			So when we look at paradigms for ourselves
		
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			and we
		
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			peruse the
		
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			complexity and
		
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			the grandeur of
		
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			the Islamic story, which is a story of
		
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			human beings and their
		
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			turning towards the divine. We perceive not just
		
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			one way of apprehending
		
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			the prophetic excellence,
		
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			but a huge range of them. This is
		
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			what we should expect, and this is important
		
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			because ours is an age of
		
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			quite militant homogenization.
		
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			Modernity pays lip service to the right of
		
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			people to do their own thing and to
		
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			be different within
		
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			the woolly
		
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			confines
		
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			of liberal indifferentism.
		
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			But at the same time, globalization,
		
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			which is its flip side, tends to turn
		
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			us into variants of the same sort of
		
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			thing.
		
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			Real difference, real eccentrics, real misfits, real oddballs
		
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			are
		
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			less easy to come by than once they
		
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			were. Mass communication, the Internet,
		
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			Hollywood,
		
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			even the invention of printing have served to
		
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			homogenize
		
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			human beings, which is not what the divine
		
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			purpose is for us. We are to be
		
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			diverse.
		
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			And if you read the Seera, you see
		
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			such an extraordinarily
		
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			wide,
		
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			cast of players.
		
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			So many archetypes in a Shakespearean way, bodied
		
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			forth by particular personalities
		
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			amongst the, Sahaba.
		
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			So, the the monochrome nature of modern humanity
		
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			is an aspect of this,
		
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			the drabness.
		
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			And, so, as we begin today's journey looking
		
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			at a somewhat more recent figure, though not
		
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			as recent as our Muslim cowboy that we
		
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			looked at last time, William Williamson,
		
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			We will be considering this, the polychrome
		
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			nature
		
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			of premodern
		
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			humanity, the sheer diversity of the world,
		
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			the ongoing
		
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			luminous
		
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			intensity,
		
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			of the natural world,
		
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			human engagement
		
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			with other forms of consciousness in ways that
		
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			nowadays has become perfunctory
		
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			and hurried.
		
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			More opportunities for leisure we have,
		
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			the less time we seem to have just
		
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			to take a deep breath
		
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			and contemplate
		
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			the moment.
		
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			These are all
		
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			usual homilies.
		
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			It is our modern condition. But,
		
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			in past times, humanity was something very different,
		
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			and probably would have regarded us
		
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			with horror and pity. Not just as hopeless
		
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			materialistic blasphemers, but as people for whom part
		
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			of the richness, and the intensity, and the
		
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			in the momentness
		
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			of humanity has been lost in favor of
		
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			a kind of
		
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			daydreaming.
		
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			So we have these ideas of
		
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			what it is to be
		
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			an admirable
		
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			human being, a hero,
		
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			in that kind of Hegelian sense perhaps.
		
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			Somebody absolutely
		
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			attentive to the unique irreplaceability
		
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			of the moment.
		
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			Because nowadays, the moment is
		
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			not from God, has no particular meaning,
		
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			there's no symbolic interpretation possible. It's just another
		
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			moment, another random concatenation of atoms in a
		
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			meaningless universe. We're kind of in a hurry
		
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			to get on to the next one in
		
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			case it's more interesting. But in a theistic
		
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			cosmos,
		
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			where every moment
		
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			is full of divine meaning, if only we
		
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			would stop,
		
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			take a deep breath, and meditate upon it.
		
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			Yeah. There were people who were ibn al
		
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			Waqd.
		
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			People who were sons of the moment and
		
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			were,
		
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			to use the dreadful borderized
		
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			mock Buddhist contemporary category, mindful.
		
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			They were in the moment,
		
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			Hadarin.
		
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			And that led to a certain intensity
		
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			of personality and a certain
		
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			intensification of the possibilities
		
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			of manhood, the possibilities of nobility,
		
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			the possibilities of criminality,
		
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			the possibilities
		
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			of
		
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			masculinity and femininity.
		
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			All of these things were, as it were,
		
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			highly colored,
		
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			intensified,
		
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			writ large.
		
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			So I want to start with an example
		
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			of this. It's a passage that's kind of
		
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			famous in
		
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			travel literature.
		
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			This is, Edmondo de Amicis's famous book about
		
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			Constantinople,
		
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			which he visited when the Ottoman thing was
		
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			still kind of visible.
		
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			This is in the time of Sultan Abdulaziz.
		
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			So,
		
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			the beginning of the end, but he could
		
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			still see the old world.
		
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			The old guys
		
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			in splendidly colored clothes and magnificent turbans, and
		
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			the color and splendor and havoc of the
		
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			east, and then the modernization
		
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			with the
		
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			black frock coat and the boring turboshe
		
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			and the,
		
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			efficient time and money men in the modernized
		
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			European offices, and the splendor and the extravagance,
		
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			the cornucopia of the Levant. It's cosmopolitanism
		
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			replaced by efficiency
		
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			and moving towards a monocopter. So here's his
		
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			reminiscence. He's just been to see the Sultan,
		
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			Sultan Abdul Aziz, who is a rather sorry
		
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			figure, and he's expecting to see this oriental
		
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			pageant.
		
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			And instead, it's a very Europeanized kind of
		
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			thing. He rides out of Dolmabahce Palace, which
		
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			is this very Europeanized rococo thing.
		
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			And,
		
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			the official Palace officials are there, and the
		
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			Sultan is kind of drably dressed and he's
		
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			kind of a bit bored. There's a bunch
		
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			of French tourists there, goggling.
		
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			Nothing. Just another modern spectacle. So he's just
		
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			reflected on this,
		
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			and then he says this, and I'll read
		
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			this in extensor because
		
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			it kind of sums up
		
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			what we have lost,
		
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			and leads us into the remainder of today's
		
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			reflections.
		
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			As the reader can see,
		
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			the spectacle of the Sultan's procession has today
		
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			become a rather drab affair.
		
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			The sultans of olden times issued forth in
		
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			great pomp,
		
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			preceded and followed by swarms of horsemen, slaves,
		
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			guards, gardeners, eunuchs, and chamberlains,
		
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			who seem from a distance, so enthusiastic chroniclers
		
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			tell us, look like a sea of tulips.
		
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			The sultans of today, on the contrary, seem
		
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			to shun pomp and circumstance
		
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			as though it were a mere theatrical display
		
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			of lost grandeur.
		
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			What would one of those early sultans say
		
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			were he to rise up from his tomb
		
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			at Bursa or Torbe in Istanbul and see
		
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			one of his 19th century descendants passing by
		
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			dressed in a black frock coat without a
		
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			turban, without a sword, without jewels,
		
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			surrounded by a crowd of insolent foreigners.
		
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			I suspect he would blush with rage and
		
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			shame, and as a sign of his supreme
		
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			displeasure,
		
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			cut off the beard of his unworthy representative,
		
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			as Suleiman the first did to Hassan, with
		
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			one sweep of his scimitar,
		
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			the deadliest insult which can be offered to
		
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			an Ottoman.
		
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			It is true that there is the same
		
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			difference between the Sultans of the past, whose
		
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			names alone terrorized Europe between the 12th 16th
		
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			century, and those of today as there is
		
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			between the Ottoman Empire as it is now
		
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			and those of the first centuries.
		
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			Those earlier sultans summed up all the youth
		
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			and beauty and vigor of their race.
		
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			They were not only a living image of
		
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			their own people, a beautiful emblem, a precious
		
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			pearl upon the sword of Islam,
		
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			but in themselves alone, one of its great
		
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			strengths. It is impossible not to see in
		
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			their personal qualities one of the main reasons
		
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			why Ottoman power grew in such an extraordinary
		
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			way.
		
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			The most glorious period of Ottoman history lies
		
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			in the first first use of the dynasty,
		
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			lasting a 193 years from Osman to Mehmed
		
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			the second. That was indeed a succession of
		
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			powerful princes.
		
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			With one exception, and taking due account of
		
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			the times and of the conditions of the
		
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			race, they were austere and wise and loved
		
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			by their subjects.
		
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			They were often fierce, but rarely unjust, and
		
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			frequently even generous and benevolent towards their enemies.
		
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			All of them were princes befitting their race,
		
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			handsome and imposing in appearance.
		
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			True lions, as their mothers call them, whose
		
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			roar made the earth tremble.
		
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			The Abdul Majids, the Abdul Aziz, the Murads,
		
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			the Abdul Hamids are mere shadows of Pardisah's
		
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			in comparison with those formidable young men, born
		
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			to girls of 15
		
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			and youths of 18,
		
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			bred from the finest tartar stock and from
		
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			the flower of Greek, Persian, and Caucasian beauty.
		
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			At 14 years of age, they were commanding
		
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			armies and governing provinces, and their mothers were
		
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			rewarding them with slave girls as beautiful and
		
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			ardent as themselves.
		
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			At 16, they were already fathers and at
		
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			70 as well.
		
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			But love in them did not undermine and
		
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			weaken their natural vigor of mind and body.
		
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			Their minds were made of iron, as the
		
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			poet sang, and their bodies of steel.
		
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			They all had certain features that have been
		
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			lost in their degenerate descendants.
		
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			The high forehead, the arched eyebrows meeting like
		
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			those of the Persians, the blue eyes of
		
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			the sons of the steppe, the nose curving
		
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			above the full red lips like the beak
		
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			of a parrot over a cherry,
		
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			and the full black beard for which the
		
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			Seraglio's poets were ever wracking their brains in
		
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			the effort to find charming or striking similes.
		
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			They had, quote, the glance of a Taurus
		
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			eagle and the strength of the king of
		
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			the desert, nicks like a ball, broad shoulders
		
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			and wide chest that could contain all the
		
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			warlike fury of their people.
		
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			Long arms, large joints, short bowed legs that
		
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			could make the strongest Turkoman horses neigh with
		
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			pain,
		
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			and large hairy hands that could wield with
		
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			ease the bronze maces and huge bows carried
		
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			by their soldiers.
		
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			And their epithet worthy of them, The wrestler,
		
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			the champion, the thunderbolt, the bone crusher, the
		
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			shedder of blood,
		
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			and so on. So you get this image,
		
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			even in the mid 19th century,
		
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			of the modern Muslim representative leader
		
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			being a somewhat
		
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			milk sop bureaucratized
		
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			Europeanized
		
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			homogenized
		
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			affair,
		
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			anxious to comply with the dowdy post sacred,
		
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			gray, but efficient norms of Europe.
		
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			And contrasted with this no doubt highly colored
		
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			and mythologized,
		
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			image of the splendor and the color of
		
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			the pageantry of the Ottoman past. And also,
		
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			of course, the idea of virility,
		
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			masculinity,
		
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			which is one of the things that has
		
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			to come into any
		
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			consideration
		
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			of leadership
		
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			or role modeling.
		
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			Because one of the things that we've lost
		
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			nowadays is the fertile polarity and complementarity of
		
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			gender.
		
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			Even our kids in the schools now are
		
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			being taught at an early age about gender
		
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			fluidity, and it's kind of compulsory.
		
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			The state belief is that gender is not
		
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			an essence.
		
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			This is quite worrying. Well, we saw in
		
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			the case of Nana Asma'ul
		
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			what femininity
		
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			in its Islamic modality can represent.
		
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			A queenly,
		
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			scholarly,
		
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			devout, secluded
		
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			perfection.
		
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			And this image of kind of stereotypical
		
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			Turkish
		
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			manhood brandishing the scimitar is also an image
		
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			of magnificence.
		
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			But nowadays, the phrase or the word masculinity
		
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			is more likely to be hyphenated
		
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			with the adjective toxic than anything else. Modernity
		
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			doesn't really have a very positive way of
		
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			identifying gender any longer. Femininity,
		
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			perhaps problematic.
		
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			Masculinity,
		
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			certainly problematic. And instead, everybody is kind of
		
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			denatured.
		
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			So this is
		
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			one of the things that we have lost
		
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			and one reason why it's hard for us
		
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			to grapple
		
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			what made human beings in pre modern, you
		
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			might say normative, because they lasted so long
		
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			times.
		
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			That there were certain ideals which were aesthetic
		
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			and magnificent,
		
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			which nowadays in our kind of gray everybody
		
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			wears kind of black nowadays. It's really
		
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			depressing. Go to any hotel
		
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			and everything is beige and gray and neutral,
		
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			and this is what happens,
		
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			when the the light of God is lost
		
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			and people no longer have a sense that
		
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			cheerfulness,
		
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			is an appropriate way of expressing
		
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			your sense of the world. Everything becomes,
		
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			as dark as atheism itself.
		
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			But in those times, massive color and colorful
		
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			places today. India is really colorful.
		
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			Africa is really colorful. Why? Because they still
		
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			believe in the sacred, and that is at
		
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			the center of their lives.
		
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			In any case,
		
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			what I want to look at, today or
		
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			whom I want to look at, is a
		
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			figure who
		
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			stands as some of the other figures that
		
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			we've mentioned, kind of at the cusp or
		
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			the isthmus
		
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			between the old and the new.
		
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			Shamil was one of those people. William Williamson
		
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			certainly saw both worlds.
		
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			Then Esmail and the Jihad of Housaland, a
		
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			little bit before the British come and improve
		
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			everything and ruin everything.
		
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			And,
		
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			the person I want to talk to today
		
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			is a figure of very late
		
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			classical Islam. A figure that the, Oriental Studies
		
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			Fraternity,
		
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			regards as one of the iconic figures of
		
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			early modernity in the Middle East. And this
		
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			is a very contested category.
		
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			Somebody who is linked with the so called
		
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			Arab enlightenment
		
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			of the 18th
		
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			century. An idea that Reinhard Schuler and others
		
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			have proposed and is generating a lot of
		
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			controversy. Was there even before Napoleon
		
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			kicked open the door of the Middle East?
		
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			Already a transformation
		
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			towards some kind of focus on
		
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			nature and humanism that looked a bit like
		
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			European romanticism and might be more open to
		
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			science.
		
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			Well, this is, contested,
		
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			problematic. But certainly something was afoot.
		
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			But in any case, it's interesting to see
		
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			how somebody in the 17th 18th century
		
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			is so productive and so unusual and so
		
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			vibrant, that he readily confounds the older
		
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			stereotype
		
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			of an age of decay.
		
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			The traditional European way of mapping Islamic civilization
		
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			was that it reached its high point
		
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			with, Abbasids.
		
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			And that's when the great philosophy was written
		
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			and when everything seemed to be splendid and
		
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			magnificent. And they were starting to rationalize,
		
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			how they loved the more, tazilites and the
		
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			philosopher,
		
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			in ways that were a miraculous prefiguring of
		
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			the glory
		
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			that was said to be
		
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			19th century Europe. And then after that, somehow,
		
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			you had Razzali and Razi and everything becomes
		
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			very kind of religious and repetitive. And the
		
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			age of decline,
		
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			conservatism
		
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			effiguer,
		
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			sclerosis.
		
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			These are the oriental stereotypes of the later
		
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			Islamic period. But we're now looking
		
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			at some of those figures and actually,
		
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			disinterring their books from the libraries. And of
		
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			course, as you would expect, we find wonders.
		
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			One of the big things that's happening in
		
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			Islamic Studies nowadays is the collapse of the
		
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			old paradigm of a kind of renaissance moment
		
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			in the 10th 11th century in Baghdad.
		
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			And moving towards the idea that there is
		
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			an endless regeneration
		
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			and reconfiguration,
		
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			based also in the
		
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			realization that the European obsession with novelty and
		
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			innovation,
		
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			may not be the only way of valuing
		
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			a civilization.
		
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			Maybe there's other ways. Maybe the happiness of
		
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			the population
		
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			could be a way of valorizing
		
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			the intellectual armature of a civilization, rather than
		
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			this endless
		
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			whiggish idea of everything progressing towards, of course,
		
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			ourselves.
		
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			In the modern west, when they call something
		
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			progressive,
		
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			the only thing they ever mean is that
		
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			which moves towards the current value set of
		
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			secular liberalism. They have no conception of progress
		
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			being desired by intelligent human beings towards any
		
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			other ideal. That's the great unthought.
		
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			But, if we go back to just before
		
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			Napoleon turns up and the Ottomans modernize and
		
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			you get them wearing these kind of European
		
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			frock coats and little fezzies and having big
		
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			chandeliers in their palaces, and being kind of,
		
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			second best
		
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			in Europe, rather than best in the world,
		
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			which is how the Ottomans used to be.
		
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			You find,
		
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			some very interesting lively figures. And the one
		
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			I want to talk about today is,
		
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			Abdul Ghani, Ben Ismail, and Nablusi.
		
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			Now this is a kind of, test case
		
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			because if you look at the manuscript libraries,
		
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			and you see what Muslims were reading and
		
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			copying and buying,
		
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			150 years ago, he was one of the
		
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			great Imams of the age.
		
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			Mufti of Damascus, an author of great commentaries,
		
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			and he wrote over 300 books.
		
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			I was in Sarajevo a while back. There's
		
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			plenty of his manuscripts in the libraries of
		
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			Sarajevo. He was from Damascus, but the book
		
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			spread very quickly. But nowadays,
		
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			not really thought about.
		
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			Partly because the Ummah has decided to move
		
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			in the direction of another
		
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			damascene,
		
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			Ibentemia,
		
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			who lived 4 centuries earlier, who had a
		
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			very different sense of how you deal with
		
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			the world and with crisis and with diversity.
		
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			And this takes us back to the question
		
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			raised by Thomas Bauer in his now
		
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			celebrated book, The Culture of Ambiguity.
		
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			In the mid 19th century,
		
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			the temper of Islamic thought shifted
		
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			from,
		
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			a culture of ambiguity
		
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			to a culture of anxiety.
		
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			And this obviously
		
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			coincides with
		
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			the growth of the European empires,
		
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			and Muslim military defeat and a certain crisis
		
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			of confidence amongst the elites.
		
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			So
		
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			in the
		
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			18th century in India,
		
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			the kind of sectarian disputes that you get
		
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			amongst Indian subcontinental
		
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			Muslims nowadays, the Deobandis, the Braille, the Adil
		
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			Hadith, I know not what, hardly exist,
		
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			because there was more of a sense amongst
		
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			the olamat that this Ikhilaf,
		
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			different opinions, especially about matters of Barzakh and
		
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			Raib, were kind of normal
		
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			and part of the way things were supposed
		
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			to be.
		
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			In the 19th century,
		
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			everybody is anxious, particularly after
		
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			the destruction of the so called Indian Mutiny.
		
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			People start to retreat into more exclusive,
		
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			propositional,
		
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			defensive forms of Islam, and it becomes an
		
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			age of sectarianism.
		
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			And this is the case fairly ubiquitously,
		
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			and Bowersbach, in a very erudite way,
		
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			charts this transition. So we're now in an
		
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			age of anxiety,
		
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			not in the older more normative age of
		
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			ambiguity where difference was actively enjoyed
		
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			by a scholarly elite that
		
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			was at ease with it, because it was
		
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			at ease with the situation of the Ummah
		
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			in the world. So Abulhanni Nablusi,
		
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			1641
		
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			to 17/31.
		
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			So
		
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			lives a long time.
		
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			Gets into the 18th century significantly.
		
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			He is,
		
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			from a very distinguished
		
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			family.
		
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			Confluence of 2 great families of of Olimat,
		
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			the Beni,
		
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			Kodama
		
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			and, the Beni Jama'ah.
		
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			And they produced many great olamat down the
		
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			centuries. The,
		
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			Jama'ah family are Sheferi Olamat of the city
		
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			of Hamat, who produced some of the great,
		
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			Shafa'i. This Muftis ibn Jamah'ah himself.
		
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			That was from his father's side. From his
		
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			father's side, from the Bani Qudama,
		
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			who are Hanbalis,
		
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			the famous
		
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			Muafakaddeen
		
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			ibn Qudama, one of the greatest of all
		
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			of the Hanbali,
		
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			jurists,
		
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			died 12/23.
		
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			And they are descendants of the second Khalifa,
		
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			Omar ibn al Khattab.
		
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			And they spend a lot of time in
		
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			Jerusalem,
		
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			so they become what in Arabic is known
		
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			as Maqaddisa,
		
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			scholars of Beta Maqaddis or
		
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			Jerusalem.
		
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			So the the Bani Jama'ah are for a
		
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			couple of centuries,
		
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			the Imams of Al Aqsa Mosque.
		
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			And the Qudanas
		
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			settle in,
		
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			Damascus, particularly the Salihiyya district, which is on
		
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			those kind of lower slopes of Jabal Qasiyun,
		
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			which is also where, Mohidin ibn
		
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			Araby is,
		
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			buried. But Ablohani Nablusi is known as the
		
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			man from Nablus,
		
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			because the family spends some time in Nablus
		
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			after the Ottoman conquest of Jerusalem, which is
		
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			15/16.
		
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			The Ottomans, of course, build up Jerusalem.
		
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			Its present urban form is basically from the
		
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			time of Suleiman the Magnificent, who really cherished
		
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			the city.
		
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			But, many of the family go to Nablus.
		
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			If you've been to the West Bank, you've
		
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			probably been to Nablus, actually quite a beautiful
		
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			place. Founded by the emperor Vespasian
		
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			Neapolis,
		
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			the new town.
		
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			When Jerusalem was destroyed
		
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			by the Romans.
		
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			They created this new town nearby. And it's
		
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			famous for the Samaritan presence on,
		
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			Jebelator
		
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			nearby. It's a separate religion.
		
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			They consider themselves,
		
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			to be the true Jews, but they're not
		
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			Jews and they're not treated as Jews by
		
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			the Israeli operate occupying authorities.
		
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			Completely separate religion,
		
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			on this mountain. There's only about a1000 of
		
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			them left, and they're just left to their
		
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			own devices under the Ottoman. So an interesting
		
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			place, but also a place that's produced
		
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			considerable number of scholars. And it's a holy
		
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			place, because the tomb of
		
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			Prophet Joseph Yusuf is there,
		
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			which to judge from old photographs and sketches
		
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			was quite a beautiful place with a lot
		
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			of Quranic
		
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			calligraphy and Ottoman
		
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			tiling. Since 1967,
		
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			with the Israeli occupation,
		
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			it's been out of bounds to non Jews.
		
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			So it's now full of settlers. And even
		
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			though Nablus is part of the Palestinian Authority,
		
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			it's still illegal for Palestinians to go there.
		
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			The entrance is controlled by, the Israeli army,
		
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			and you have to show that you're Jewish
		
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			before you're allowed in. So an ancient place
		
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			that's now
		
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			really tense, but it's worth going to. It's
		
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			a big Palestinian refugee camp and a very
		
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			weird
		
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			Romanian priest who's
		
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			built a huge church just outside the entrance
		
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			to,
		
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			Nardola. So I talked to this priest
		
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			and I said, you've got the West Bank's
		
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			biggest Palestinian refugee camp right opposite your church.
		
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			Do you have any problems? He said, the
		
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			only problems I've ever had is with the
		
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			Jewish settlers.
		
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			They keep beating me up and once they
		
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			left an axe
		
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			in my head,
		
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			he went to the hospital like that.
		
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			So it's now very kind of sad and
		
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			tense, but it was once
		
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			a center for Alama. And Abdulhany Nablosi is
		
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			from the people of
		
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			Mueblos.
		
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			Then they move to Damascus, and quite quickly,
		
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			they become
		
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			hailed as great scholars. His grandfather, Ismail, becomes
		
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			the main preacher of the Umayyad mosque
		
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			in Damascus, and also head of the Darul
		
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			Hadith al Ashrafia, which is one of the
		
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			big madrassas of Damascus, which is a Darul
		
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			Hadith, obviously,
		
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			a college specializing in
		
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			Hadith
		
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			studies. He becomes the Shefer a Mufti
		
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			of
		
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			Damascus, like most people in the Levant.
		
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			At this time, their their Sherfa is.
		
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			And also becomes a successful businessman. So the
		
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			family
		
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			is always wealthy.
		
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			And, Abdul Ghani,
		
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			inherits,
		
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			quite a lot
		
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			of wealth and this becomes
		
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			significant.
		
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			The father is also a preacher in the,
		
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			Umayyad Mosque in
		
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			Damascus. And in
		
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			16/41,
		
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			Abdulhayni Nablusi is born. And
		
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			the hagiographers
		
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			record all kinds of interesting foretellings
		
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			by local saints that this is going to
		
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			be a remarkable,
		
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			remarkable
		
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			star in the Damesine firmament.
		
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			And we're told that by the age of
		
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			5,
		
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			under the very close care of his father,
		
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			he became a Hafiz,
		
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			and memorized a number of other texts shortly
		
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			afterwards, including Alfiya ibn Malik, which is a
		
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			basic
		
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			thousand line
		
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			poem on Arabic grammar.
		
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			Rather a dry thing for small kids to
		
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			work through. But, he memorized it. The Shatabir,
		
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			which is the basic
		
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			mnemonic poem, which helps you to understand the
		
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			principles
		
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			that govern the 7 different variant readings of
		
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			the Quran.
		
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			The Umar Barahin,
		
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			the Aqeeda text of Sanusi and other key
		
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			standard text. But he, by the age of
		
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			12,
		
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			is already well on his way. At the
		
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			age of 12, his father dies and his
		
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			mother takes over.
		
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			And the women are often scholars
		
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			in
		
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			Cairo and Syria at this time. This follows
		
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			the Mamluk tradition when some of the great
		
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			scholars were women. And that the Olomat would
		
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			insist
		
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			that
		
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			so that they could be in their children
		
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			would be nurtured in a family of learning.
		
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			They would marry women who were also known
		
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			scholars. So, ibn Hajjar al Asqalani
		
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			marries a woman who is also an independent
		
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			Hadith teacher in her own right Inas Khartoum.
		
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			She's 18, but she's already giving Ijaz as
		
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			in Hadith to some of the great scholars
		
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			of Cairo. So this is a tradition that
		
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			is,
		
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			alive. So the teaching of the young Abu
		
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			Hanani is now in the hands of his
		
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			mother.
		
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			He attends some of the big Hadith classes,
		
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			particularly
		
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			Najmuddin al Ghazi,
		
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			who is perhaps the greatest Hadith luminary of
		
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			the day.
		
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			So his father dies.
		
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			And his father has had 2 wives or
		
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			2 widows. So the books are divided between
		
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			them and most of them are sold off.
		
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			And one of the things
		
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			Sheikh Abdul Ghani tries to do in later
		
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			life is to track down his father's books
		
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			to find out where they went and to
		
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			see if he can
		
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			buy them back. And by the time he
		
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			dies, his house is something of an amazing
		
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			library
		
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			already.
		
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			So he is focusing very much on
		
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			on Hadith, but also on
		
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			the
		
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			the Fiqh tradition. There's a very strong Hanbali
		
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			tradition in Damascus, more really than anywhere else
		
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			in the Islamic world
		
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			at the time.
		
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			Generally, the olemmah have
		
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			historically voted with their feet and not appreciated
		
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			very literalist
		
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			interpretations
		
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			of doctrine and law. So the Han Hanbali
		
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			school is the smallest,
		
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			but Dalma, which is a suburb of Damascus,
		
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			is historically a traditional
		
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			Hanbali,
		
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			redoubt.
		
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			I suppose, continues to be to this day,
		
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			despite the the recent
		
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			misfortunes.
		
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			He's also reading a lot of Sufi texts.
		
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			Ibn Arabi,
		
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			Afifuddin Nasani,
		
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			Abu Karim al Jili,
		
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			Ibn al Farid.
		
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			Particularly that which is poetic. And what is,
		
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			kind of, getting a reputation for as a
		
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			teenager in Damascus,
		
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			is somebody who really, really knows the Arabic
		
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			language.
		
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			And to this day, some olamat, when they
		
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			think of him, will think of his his
		
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			poetry and his works on
		
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			literary criticism and rhetoric.
		
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			So the first time he really makes a
		
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			splash in Damascus, is at the age of
		
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			25.
		
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			He kind of publishes
		
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			a poem
		
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			about the holy prophet,
		
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			It's in a 150 lines and it's obviously
		
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			in the huge
		
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			riverine tradition of literature that produces the borda
		
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			and other
		
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			material. And it rhymes in meme, like the
		
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			borda because that's the the letter with which
		
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			the name of the holy prophet begins, and
		
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			it follows that convention,
		
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			very conventionally.
		
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			But
		
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			it is
		
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			also what's called one of the Badiyyat,
		
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			and Badiyyah is a particular
		
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			tradition of
		
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			Arabic literary culture,
		
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			which,
		
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			doesn't just wish material to be rhetorically correct,
		
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			but wishes to make a line of poetry
		
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			or a piece of art prose
		
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			absolutely
		
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			packed with the most complex and brilliant kind
		
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			of show stopping displays
		
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			of linguistic erudition.
		
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			Unusual words, strange internal rhythms,
		
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			double entendres,
		
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			metaphors, similes,
		
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			It's,
		
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			Badi'ah, means kind of shining or outstanding.
		
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			It's even one of the divine names in
		
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			Quran. Badi'ah,
		
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			kind of the shining originator of the magnificence
		
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			of creation. So the the procreation, the literary
		
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			procreation, which is the work of the poet,
		
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			is in traditional Arabic culture, something that is
		
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			considered to reach its highest point with these
		
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			really difficult kind of tour de force
		
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			exhibitions, which to us are very difficult to
		
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			read now, because
		
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			who now knows
		
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			there's 70 different Arabic words for wine?
		
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			Maybe your average educated Arabic newspaper reader might
		
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			know 2 or 3, but the others
		
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			could be Chinese.
		
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			But back then, they inhabited the language and
		
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			the language was something that they kind of
		
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			ate and drank every day. And they
		
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			experienced the aesthetic of it.
		
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			And they appreciated
		
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			unusual figures.
		
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			And this was what
		
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			the elites used to do in the Arab
		
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			world before
		
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			television and Al Jazeera took over.
		
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			They would recite poetry to each other. I
		
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			remember seeing that in
		
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			some,
		
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			households in Cairo
		
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			in the eighties.
		
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			After the dinner,
		
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			they'd sit around
		
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			and
		
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			play games with poetry.
		
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			So
		
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			the person whose house it was would recite
		
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			a poem and then stop at a particular
		
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			point.
		
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			And then somebody else present would have to
		
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			continue with another poem that was in the
		
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			same meter and using the same rhyme.
		
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			And then the first person who couldn't do
		
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			that, when it's your turn going around the
		
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			table, is kind of out and,
		
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			it would be a great shame. I didn't
		
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			do very well at that kind of Arab
		
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			parlor game. But, it was a reminder
		
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			of how things used to be that the
		
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			language and the cultivation of the fine sounds
		
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			and the subtle allusions
		
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			of the language, was a kind of almost
		
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			sensual
		
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			thing. It was like drinking cognac after a
		
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			meal.
		
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			It was
		
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			a refined thing that was very widely
		
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			pursued.
		
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			So I just caught a glimpse of that.
		
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			But in 18th century Damascus, it's what everybody
		
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			does and it's part of being
		
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			a civilized,
		
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			educated
		
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			Muslim
		
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			human being. So he,
		
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			jumps into this ocean and produces this poem
		
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			about the Holy Prophet, this mimiyyah.
		
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			And it's in a particular kind of tradition.
		
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			Now it's it's called
		
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			Nafahat al Azhar Fi Madhain Nabi'u Muhtar.
		
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			And he's in one of these sessions, and
		
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			there are these gray bearded muftis around and
		
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			this kind of young squirt is there reciting
		
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			his own poetry. He's not quoting from Ibn
		
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			al Muwat. This is his own poetry. Alright.
		
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			He does a few verses
		
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			and then a few more and eventually they
		
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			ask him to recite his complete Quesada.
		
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			And they're completely amazed.
		
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			Some of them don't really believe that it's
		
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			his. They think,
		
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			it's not possible. Because
		
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			as part of this Bedi'at tradition,
		
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			one of the things you do
		
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			is to incorporate
		
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			in every line of your poem, one of
		
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			the figures of Arabic rhetoric.
		
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			So a particular kind of metaphor, particular kind
		
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			of alliteration.
		
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			And in some of the poems, you actually
		
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			use a word that is cognate with the
		
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			technical term for that alliteration.
		
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			And a lot of people read the borda
		
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			for instance, they think it's just a nice,
		
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			sort of, archaizing poem about the holy prophet.
		
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			They don't realize that in a lot in
		
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			every line,
		
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			there are technical allusions to forms of Arabic
		
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			grammar and alliteration
		
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			that scholars will recognize. It's a kind of
		
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			literary
		
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			salon piece, a tour de force.
		
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			So, somehow this Abdul Ghani has
		
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			come up with this shining Qasida
		
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			and some people kind of openly say, we
		
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			don't really think that you could have done
		
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			this, although we haven't heard it before. So
		
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			he said, alright in 2 weeks, I'll come
		
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			back with a commentary
		
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			showing that I understand this and that I
		
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			wrote it. And the
		
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			Chief Mufti is there. No. The Nakhib al
		
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			Ashraf is the head of the guild of
		
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			the prophetic
		
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			descendants. And he says, alright. We'll give you
		
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			3 weeks.
		
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			So he comes back in 3 weeks time
		
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			with,
		
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			something that is still on the shelves of
		
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			Arabic book shops everywhere.
		
00:35:00 --> 00:35:01
			And you can see,
		
00:35:02 --> 00:35:03
			it's took a long time
		
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			to write.
		
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			But he does it in 3 weeks.
		
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			And,
		
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			He presents this and some of it is
		
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			in poetry and some of it is in
		
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			prose. And it quotes
		
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			the earlier Badia works, the Borda and other
		
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			works. And it's clear that this is all
		
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			his own work. And he ends
		
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			he somehow found time
		
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			at the end of it to write
		
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			another poem
		
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			of the same length.
		
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			It's in here somewhere.
		
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			Which does the same thing, but which explicitly
		
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			names in each line,
		
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			the literary form that he's
		
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			using
		
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			in that line.
		
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			And this kind of blows their minds and
		
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			they kind of recognize and from this point
		
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			onwards, the rather grudging judgmental world of Demosene
		
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			professors
		
00:36:00 --> 00:36:02
			recognizes that this is a new phenomenon. Of
		
00:36:02 --> 00:36:04
			course, they're critical, but they're also happy because
		
00:36:04 --> 00:36:07
			they realize that, they're being joined by
		
00:36:07 --> 00:36:10
			somebody who is really worthy of
		
00:36:11 --> 00:36:12
			the tradition. So,
		
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			yeah. As the years have gone by, because
		
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			one of the things about these late scholars
		
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			in Islamic history is that they're inheriting a
		
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			lot from the past.
		
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			In the 2nd, 3rd century, the libraries are
		
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			fairly basic.
		
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			A 1000 years later, the libraries in Damascus
		
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			are absolutely packed with wonders.
		
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			And it's worth noting
		
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			that nowadays, we don't actually have access to
		
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			the riches of Islamic civilization.
		
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			Not just because we don't read, but because
		
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			of all of the books that have ever
		
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			been written in Islamic languages,
		
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			99%
		
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			at least remain in manuscript form.
		
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			You have to go to the library and
		
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			drink tea with the custodian
		
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			and give him a gift of some kind,
		
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			and then he brings out this miracle
		
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			which somebody looked at 150 years ago, but
		
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			generally the Ummah is busy with Ibn Taymiyyah
		
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			or learning to drive or whatever. It's gathering
		
00:37:08 --> 00:37:09
			dust.
		
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			Only 1% has even been
		
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			printed in Arabic.
		
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			And of that 1%,
		
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			only a tiny fraction exists in English. So
		
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			where are we in terms of getting even
		
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			a drop from this ocean? This is important
		
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			to recognize that the Ummah has not served
		
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			its literary heritage
		
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			terribly well. Of Abdul Ghani's books, maybe
		
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			out of 300 books,
		
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			only 60 have actually been printed,
		
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			which is very extraordinary.
		
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			And of those, only 1 or 2 have
		
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			been done into English.
		
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			And even translations and even additions are problematic.
		
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			So we're really guilty of a terrible neglect.
		
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			If you go to the National Library in
		
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			Cairo
		
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			okay. Recently they had to
		
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			spruce it up.
		
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			King Juan Carlos
		
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			of Spain,
		
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			actually, because he's Spanish, is interested in the
		
00:38:02 --> 00:38:04
			Arabic heritage. So he goes to Cairo and
		
00:38:04 --> 00:38:05
			the, sort of,
		
00:38:06 --> 00:38:08
			chain smoking generals think, oh, we'll take him
		
00:38:08 --> 00:38:09
			to the pyramids or whatever. He said, I
		
00:38:09 --> 00:38:11
			want to see the National Library in Cairo.
		
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			And these generals kind of look at each
		
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			other and they say, I think we have
		
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			got such a thing.
		
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			Right. And so they find out that it's
		
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			an absolute physical catastrophe with pages on the
		
00:38:21 --> 00:38:22
			floor
		
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			and the windows broken, and birds flying in
		
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			and out, and it's a horror. So they
		
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			have to pay for it to be painted
		
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			and a few cases brought in to make
		
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			it look less
		
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			shameful, but it's
		
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			it's pretty appalling. They have some of the
		
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			most beautiful and amazing books in the world,
		
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			and then you open the manuscript. Like in
		
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			Cambridge,
		
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			you open the manuscript and it's kind of
		
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			like being
		
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			in a surgical theater. You have to wear
		
00:38:45 --> 00:38:47
			white gloves and a particular kind of pencil,
		
00:38:47 --> 00:38:50
			and there's a disapproving librarian looking over her
		
00:38:50 --> 00:38:50
			glasses.
		
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			In Cairo,
		
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			slap it down in front of you.
		
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			You open it up and then they bring
		
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			your shay, your tea. And they put it
		
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			on the manuscript.
		
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			And it leaves a ring.
		
00:39:06 --> 00:39:07
			Anyway, this is the Ummah,
		
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			really decadent.
		
00:39:10 --> 00:39:11
			It's,
		
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			yeah. What can what can one say? But
		
00:39:15 --> 00:39:16
			the treasures are still there
		
00:39:17 --> 00:39:19
			and people still find the most amazing
		
00:39:20 --> 00:39:22
			riches and beauty, just in terms of the
		
00:39:22 --> 00:39:24
			book binding and the calligraphy and the paper
		
00:39:24 --> 00:39:24
			making.
		
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			Anyway, treasures.
		
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			Buried treasures. And
		
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			so his heritage has been to some extent
		
00:39:33 --> 00:39:33
			neglected
		
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			partly because people
		
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			find that very high, exalted,
		
00:39:38 --> 00:39:39
			deliberately,
		
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			difficult Arabic,
		
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			just
		
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			hard work.
		
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			But it's produced this this thing, and as
		
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			I say, it comes late in the evolution
		
00:39:50 --> 00:39:53
			of Arabic literature. So it's already quite almost
		
00:39:53 --> 00:39:55
			baroque, Rococo, you might say, with all of
		
00:39:55 --> 00:39:56
			these
		
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			flourishes,
		
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			for a very refined
		
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			aesthetic sensibility.
		
00:40:04 --> 00:40:05
			And over the centuries,
		
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			the tradition of these Badi Ayat
		
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			has developed. So that,
		
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			Sharafuddin
		
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			at Tifersi
		
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			had increased the previous record for the number
		
00:40:17 --> 00:40:19
			of literary forms you could get in a
		
00:40:19 --> 00:40:21
			Badier Prasida, which had been held,
		
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			by Abu Bakr al Hilli, which was 37.
		
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			He ups it to 70,
		
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			And the whole Ummur is kind of cheering,
		
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			it's got 70. Yeah.
		
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			It's like one of those sort of TV
		
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			contests. I don't know, you have to get
		
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			the high score.
		
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			And these are the stars of the age.
		
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			And then along comes Zakirdin
		
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			ibn Abil Asbah who manages to produce a
		
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			Mi'kaw Saida Abadi Aya
		
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			that has 90 different literary figures in it.
		
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			Great applause from all over the Ummah.
		
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			And so the tradition by this time is
		
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			that it has to be in a meter
		
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			called Bossit and it has to rhyme in
		
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			Meme and it becomes a kind of
		
00:41:00 --> 00:41:01
			literary genre. And then
		
00:41:01 --> 00:41:04
			comes up with his which has a 151
		
00:41:05 --> 00:41:07
			figures of speech in it. And if you
		
00:41:07 --> 00:41:09
			know your Arabic literary rhetorical jargon, you can
		
00:41:09 --> 00:41:11
			see how he indicates that
		
00:41:11 --> 00:41:12
			he's putting them in.
		
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			But they say, if you include Tejniz, which
		
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			is one of these figures, which has lots
		
00:41:17 --> 00:41:18
			of subcategories
		
00:41:18 --> 00:41:19
			as one figure,
		
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			then actually he only gets a 140 points.
		
00:41:24 --> 00:41:26
			That's the borda. But it was celebrated in
		
00:41:26 --> 00:41:27
			its time as a kind of literary tour
		
00:41:27 --> 00:41:29
			de force, as much as it was a
		
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			kind of devotional
		
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			performance.
		
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			Okay. So let me see, despite the fact
		
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			that this is in, fairly
		
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			highfalutin
		
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			Arabic, see if we can
		
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			read a little bit from his,
		
00:41:46 --> 00:41:48
			amazing text. Not very systematically, but just to
		
00:41:48 --> 00:41:50
			give you a sense of this is in
		
00:41:50 --> 00:41:50
			the,
		
00:41:51 --> 00:41:54
			sort of expressly written commentary. And so he's
		
00:41:54 --> 00:41:56
			giving a history of this Badia
		
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			form.
		
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			And he's given the early history from ibn
		
00:42:00 --> 00:42:02
			al Mu'taz and Ablaziz al Helli and the
		
00:42:02 --> 00:42:04
			early exponents of this
		
00:42:04 --> 00:42:05
			art poetry.
		
00:42:06 --> 00:42:09
			Dumija about the whole Allama Taqied Din Abu
		
00:42:09 --> 00:42:10
			Bakribin Huch Al Hamawi
		
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			So you can see here that he's
		
00:42:14 --> 00:42:17
			being critical. Then after al Haley
		
00:42:18 --> 00:42:20
			comes the great learned scholar Taqiedin Abu Bakr
		
00:42:21 --> 00:42:23
			Al Hamawi. He's from Hamas, so he's also
		
00:42:23 --> 00:42:24
			a Syrian.
		
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			May Allah have mercy on him.
		
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			And then he said and he opposed him.
		
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			So he's writing this Quesada as a kind
		
00:42:36 --> 00:42:39
			of way of debunking the earlier Quesada, taking
		
00:42:39 --> 00:42:41
			it line by line and showing why
		
00:42:42 --> 00:42:45
			his predecessors poem was not much good and
		
00:42:45 --> 00:42:45
			doing something
		
00:42:46 --> 00:42:46
			even better.
		
00:42:53 --> 00:42:55
			But he didn't actually introduce
		
00:42:55 --> 00:42:57
			a large number of literary figures.
		
00:43:04 --> 00:43:06
			But it may even be that he was
		
00:43:06 --> 00:43:08
			less successful. He scored fewer points,
		
00:43:08 --> 00:43:11
			in listing these different literary
		
00:43:12 --> 00:43:12
			figures.
		
00:43:13 --> 00:43:15
			But he certainly didn't go above the
		
00:43:16 --> 00:43:16
			number.
		
00:43:20 --> 00:43:21
			Right.
		
00:43:24 --> 00:43:25
			And then he wrote a commentary on his
		
00:43:25 --> 00:43:26
			own, his
		
00:43:26 --> 00:43:27
			own poem.
		
00:43:28 --> 00:43:28
			And then
		
00:43:34 --> 00:43:35
			But in this,
		
00:43:37 --> 00:43:38
			garment of the commentary,
		
00:43:39 --> 00:43:41
			the garment was made of,
		
00:43:43 --> 00:43:45
			an excessively long tailcoat
		
00:43:46 --> 00:43:46
			of,
		
00:43:47 --> 00:43:48
			verbosity.
		
00:43:49 --> 00:43:51
			And he gave his
		
00:43:51 --> 00:43:52
			Quesada
		
00:43:52 --> 00:43:55
			a robe to wear made of boredom and
		
00:43:55 --> 00:43:55
			repetition.
		
00:43:56 --> 00:43:59
			And in it, he criticized some of the
		
00:43:59 --> 00:44:00
			great ones of earlier times,
		
00:44:13 --> 00:44:15
			So he's kind of suggesting that his poem
		
00:44:15 --> 00:44:17
			was, even though it was popular in Damascus,
		
00:44:18 --> 00:44:20
			an embarrassing piece of
		
00:44:21 --> 00:44:21
			uselessness.
		
00:44:22 --> 00:44:22
			And then,
		
00:44:23 --> 00:44:26
			see who he has next. And since nowadays
		
00:44:26 --> 00:44:27
			we're very gender sensitive,
		
00:44:33 --> 00:44:36
			And then after him came the most meritorious
		
00:44:36 --> 00:44:37
			woman of her time,
		
00:44:39 --> 00:44:40
			This is a famous,
		
00:44:41 --> 00:44:44
			Muslim poetess and Fakih Firk scholar of the
		
00:44:44 --> 00:44:46
			16th century. There's a book published about her
		
00:44:46 --> 00:44:48
			recently because her works have
		
00:44:48 --> 00:44:50
			survived. They're in the libraries there. Her house
		
00:44:50 --> 00:44:53
			is still there, in Damascus, they pointed out.
		
00:44:53 --> 00:44:54
			So
		
00:45:00 --> 00:45:01
			And she wrote a poem,
		
00:45:02 --> 00:45:04
			kind of following in the footsteps of his
		
00:45:04 --> 00:45:06
			poem, Ma'adami Tasmyatinnal,
		
00:45:06 --> 00:45:07
			but without mentioning
		
00:45:08 --> 00:45:09
			explicitly the literary figure.
		
00:45:10 --> 00:45:10
			Thomasukan
		
00:45:11 --> 00:45:12
			be talakhatil
		
00:45:12 --> 00:45:15
			alfarz to make the expressions flow more naturally.
		
00:45:17 --> 00:45:18
			And the words to be more appropriate.
		
00:45:21 --> 00:45:23
			And she wrote a short commentary on it,
		
00:45:28 --> 00:45:30
			which I've seen myself written in her own
		
00:45:30 --> 00:45:31
			handwriting.
		
00:45:31 --> 00:45:32
			May
		
00:45:32 --> 00:45:33
			Allah have mercy
		
00:45:34 --> 00:45:35
			on her.
		
00:45:38 --> 00:45:40
			In which she unveiled the beauties of discourse.
		
00:45:52 --> 00:45:54
			And then he says, having seen these 4
		
00:45:54 --> 00:45:55
			great Badiye poems,
		
00:45:57 --> 00:45:59
			and he includes Aisha Bayonias as the most
		
00:45:59 --> 00:45:59
			recent,
		
00:46:00 --> 00:46:01
			which is interesting.
		
00:46:01 --> 00:46:04
			He then explains how he wanted to follow
		
00:46:04 --> 00:46:04
			suit
		
00:46:04 --> 00:46:06
			and create now these 2 poems. 1 of
		
00:46:06 --> 00:46:09
			which doesn't explicitly mention the literary figures, and
		
00:46:09 --> 00:46:11
			the other of which does. So
		
00:46:12 --> 00:46:15
			you can see something of the almost,
		
00:46:16 --> 00:46:17
			the the delectation,
		
00:46:18 --> 00:46:21
			with which, the Damascene elite at the time,
		
00:46:22 --> 00:46:25
			took their their Arabic. It was really
		
00:46:26 --> 00:46:28
			their their their meat and drink. And he's
		
00:46:28 --> 00:46:30
			in this very difficult and demanding
		
00:46:31 --> 00:46:32
			literary world,
		
00:46:33 --> 00:46:34
			already emerged as
		
00:46:35 --> 00:46:36
			a star.
		
00:46:37 --> 00:46:40
			So as I mentioned, many still remember him
		
00:46:40 --> 00:46:42
			as a poet. He has 3 Diwan's of
		
00:46:42 --> 00:46:44
			poetry, which are published
		
00:46:45 --> 00:46:46
			and widely respected.
		
00:46:46 --> 00:46:48
			He also has so this is one of
		
00:46:48 --> 00:46:50
			his kind of novelties and idiosyncrasy,
		
00:46:51 --> 00:46:54
			an entire commentary on the Holy Quran written
		
00:46:54 --> 00:46:55
			in poetry.
		
00:46:55 --> 00:46:57
			It's in 5,000 verses,
		
00:46:58 --> 00:47:00
			which he calls, Bawatin Al Quran.
		
00:47:01 --> 00:47:03
			And as far as anybody knows, this is
		
00:47:03 --> 00:47:06
			the first attempt to create a complete trans
		
00:47:06 --> 00:47:09
			interpretation, tafsir of the Quran, in verse.
		
00:47:10 --> 00:47:12
			Might seem strange, but you have to remember
		
00:47:12 --> 00:47:14
			that these people are so steeped in poetry
		
00:47:15 --> 00:47:17
			that they could compose it. They could just
		
00:47:17 --> 00:47:17
			extemporize.
		
00:47:19 --> 00:47:20
			They didn't need to sit down and sharpen
		
00:47:20 --> 00:47:22
			their pencils and work out what would rhyme
		
00:47:22 --> 00:47:24
			with what. It just came to them naturally.
		
00:47:24 --> 00:47:26
			Like Juletta Dean Rumi, who just
		
00:47:27 --> 00:47:29
			composed, produced it, and people would write it
		
00:47:29 --> 00:47:32
			down as it came. It wasn't our modern
		
00:47:32 --> 00:47:35
			day problem of writer's block and going to
		
00:47:35 --> 00:47:38
			sort of a writer's course with some novelist
		
00:47:38 --> 00:47:40
			in some stately home and then figuring out
		
00:47:40 --> 00:47:41
			how to write chapter 1. It just poured
		
00:47:41 --> 00:47:43
			out of them. And Rumi,
		
00:47:43 --> 00:47:45
			what an enormous pouring.
		
00:47:45 --> 00:47:46
			There's Dewan's
		
00:47:47 --> 00:47:49
			8 volumes of Dewan Shamsi Tebri. And it
		
00:47:49 --> 00:47:51
			was all spontaneous, as far as we can
		
00:47:51 --> 00:47:51
			tell. So
		
00:47:53 --> 00:47:54
			and it's still the case,
		
00:47:54 --> 00:47:56
			that you can find
		
00:47:56 --> 00:47:57
			really old people
		
00:47:58 --> 00:48:00
			in the Arab world who can still do
		
00:48:00 --> 00:48:01
			that easily.
		
00:48:02 --> 00:48:04
			Who can, as it were, switch languages and
		
00:48:04 --> 00:48:05
			start talking poetry.
		
00:48:07 --> 00:48:09
			Once, the person who I knew in Jeddah,
		
00:48:09 --> 00:48:11
			more than 30 years ago, as Sayyid Hamid
		
00:48:11 --> 00:48:12
			al Mehdar,
		
00:48:12 --> 00:48:14
			who had been the hereditary ruler of the
		
00:48:14 --> 00:48:16
			city of Tarim in Hadramaut.
		
00:48:17 --> 00:48:18
			And his family published
		
00:48:19 --> 00:48:20
			his political letters
		
00:48:21 --> 00:48:24
			to other rulers and mayors in Hadramaut.
		
00:48:25 --> 00:48:27
			And they were all in poetry.
		
00:48:28 --> 00:48:29
			That's the a kind of culture it was.
		
00:48:29 --> 00:48:31
			It's like the mayor of Cambridge writing about
		
00:48:31 --> 00:48:33
			Brexit to the mayor of St. Neots or
		
00:48:33 --> 00:48:35
			something, and it's a beautiful poem like something
		
00:48:35 --> 00:48:36
			from Milton.
		
00:48:37 --> 00:48:39
			A different world. But that was just how
		
00:48:39 --> 00:48:41
			one did it and it didn't take any
		
00:48:41 --> 00:48:42
			time. It just came
		
00:48:42 --> 00:48:43
			flowed
		
00:48:43 --> 00:48:44
			naturally. So
		
00:48:45 --> 00:48:48
			he is inhabiting that that, that lost world.
		
00:48:49 --> 00:48:49
			Now,
		
00:48:50 --> 00:48:53
			the Bawatan al Quran, his poetic commentary,
		
00:48:54 --> 00:48:56
			you as the title indicates,
		
00:48:56 --> 00:48:58
			the inwardness is
		
00:48:58 --> 00:49:00
			the hidden parts of the Quran. It's more
		
00:49:00 --> 00:49:02
			tafsir iShari.
		
00:49:02 --> 00:49:04
			In other words, a Sufi type of tafsir.
		
00:49:04 --> 00:49:07
			Because we've already mentioned that as part of
		
00:49:07 --> 00:49:10
			the developed spiritual culture of his time, people
		
00:49:10 --> 00:49:11
			are reading Ibn al Farid,
		
00:49:11 --> 00:49:13
			Ibn 'Arabi. Ibn al Farid is the greatest
		
00:49:14 --> 00:49:15
			Arab Sufi poet,
		
00:49:16 --> 00:49:19
			by most estimations. So he's from Cairo.
		
00:49:20 --> 00:49:23
			And this becomes important for him, as it
		
00:49:23 --> 00:49:25
			was important for just about everybody at the
		
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			time.
		
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			However, his relationship to Tussalov is an idiosyncratic
		
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			one, and we're still trying to figure out
		
00:49:32 --> 00:49:33
			exactly
		
00:49:33 --> 00:49:35
			what was going on.
		
00:49:37 --> 00:49:39
			We know that at a fairly early age,
		
00:49:39 --> 00:49:42
			he does seem to have been initiated into
		
00:49:42 --> 00:49:44
			different toroc in a way that was almost
		
00:49:44 --> 00:49:46
			just a way of being polite.
		
00:49:47 --> 00:49:48
			You went to see such and such a
		
00:49:48 --> 00:49:49
			sheikh, and he could see that you were
		
00:49:49 --> 00:49:51
			learned in this, and that you were pure
		
00:49:51 --> 00:49:53
			hearted, and he gave you beyin, like kind
		
00:49:53 --> 00:49:54
			of giving you a
		
00:49:55 --> 00:49:58
			sort of a gift of some kind. Here's
		
00:49:58 --> 00:50:00
			one of my books, here's my Ijerse, here's
		
00:50:00 --> 00:50:01
			my sizzler, here's my and
		
00:50:02 --> 00:50:03
			it wasn't
		
00:50:04 --> 00:50:07
			a big deal. But actually his own soluk,
		
00:50:08 --> 00:50:08
			coincides
		
00:50:08 --> 00:50:10
			in a strange way with something that we
		
00:50:10 --> 00:50:11
			find
		
00:50:11 --> 00:50:12
			in
		
00:50:12 --> 00:50:14
			other early modern or late classical
		
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			Muslim writers, such as Abdelkader Rojizer Iri.
		
00:50:18 --> 00:50:21
			There was another person who settled in Damascus,
		
00:50:22 --> 00:50:25
			a little bit later, exiled from Algeria
		
00:50:25 --> 00:50:26
			by the
		
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			French, who
		
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			was a great commentator on the tradition of
		
00:50:30 --> 00:50:33
			Ibn Arabi. It was important for Demacines because
		
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			that's where he's buried.
		
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			But who seems to have taken his formal
		
00:50:38 --> 00:50:40
			initiation at the end of his
		
00:50:40 --> 00:50:42
			spiritual path, rather than the beginning.
		
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			This is,
		
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			something that
		
00:50:46 --> 00:50:48
			seems to be, an interesting idiosyncrasy
		
00:50:48 --> 00:50:49
			of the age.
		
00:50:50 --> 00:50:50
			But,
		
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			Abu Ghani in particular was very against excessive
		
00:50:54 --> 00:50:55
			formalization,
		
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			which is one reason why in some of
		
00:50:59 --> 00:51:01
			his works on doctrine, doctrine, on Kalam, his
		
00:51:01 --> 00:51:04
			commentary on the Omar Barahin, for instance,
		
00:51:04 --> 00:51:05
			he doesn't
		
00:51:05 --> 00:51:07
			reject the use of logic,
		
00:51:07 --> 00:51:10
			but he's not happy about the use of
		
00:51:10 --> 00:51:11
			some of the more speculative,
		
00:51:11 --> 00:51:12
			syllogistic
		
00:51:12 --> 00:51:14
			forms of modal logic,
		
00:51:15 --> 00:51:17
			to establish important truths about the divine.
		
00:51:19 --> 00:51:21
			He doesn't go down Ipentania's road. Ipentania thinks
		
00:51:21 --> 00:51:23
			logic is an inappropriate,
		
00:51:24 --> 00:51:26
			unprophetic way of trying to,
		
00:51:27 --> 00:51:29
			work out the real purport of of divine
		
00:51:29 --> 00:51:29
			speech.
		
00:51:30 --> 00:51:31
			But is not really,
		
00:51:31 --> 00:51:32
			one with the
		
00:51:33 --> 00:51:35
			hard line Hanafi Matoridi
		
00:51:35 --> 00:51:38
			speculative theologians who are kind of dominating,
		
00:51:39 --> 00:51:40
			at the time of Kashashi,
		
00:51:40 --> 00:51:42
			Ibrahim al Qurani,
		
00:51:42 --> 00:51:45
			Araf Hikmet, and so forth. So a real
		
00:51:45 --> 00:51:46
			hard line, Motakkali Mour.
		
00:51:48 --> 00:51:48
			He
		
00:51:49 --> 00:51:51
			is taken by his father to see the
		
00:51:51 --> 00:51:53
			Mevlevis, the whirling dervishes in Damascus.
		
00:51:56 --> 00:51:59
			But that's not his particular mashup, which is
		
00:51:59 --> 00:52:00
			interesting because with his
		
00:52:01 --> 00:52:01
			very refined
		
00:52:02 --> 00:52:04
			literary taste, you'd have thought he'd be really
		
00:52:04 --> 00:52:08
			attracted to a tariqa that is very aesthetic.
		
00:52:08 --> 00:52:09
			Beautiful orchestration
		
00:52:10 --> 00:52:12
			and the complex liturgies of
		
00:52:12 --> 00:52:15
			the turning and the symbolism and Rumi. He
		
00:52:15 --> 00:52:17
			knows Persian, so he's,
		
00:52:17 --> 00:52:19
			he can read Rumi and does have a
		
00:52:19 --> 00:52:21
			relationship with him, as we all see. But
		
00:52:22 --> 00:52:24
			that's not actually his mashrub in Sufism, which
		
00:52:24 --> 00:52:26
			turns out to be quite
		
00:52:26 --> 00:52:27
			distinctive.
		
00:52:30 --> 00:52:32
			He takes a journey when he's still young
		
00:52:32 --> 00:52:33
			to Istanbul
		
00:52:34 --> 00:52:36
			and to Adirne, which is on in the
		
00:52:36 --> 00:52:38
			European part of Turkey, which was the capital
		
00:52:38 --> 00:52:39
			of the Ottomans before
		
00:52:40 --> 00:52:43
			Mehmed the second conquers Istanbul and has always
		
00:52:43 --> 00:52:45
			been a major center for Olomar.
		
00:52:46 --> 00:52:48
			Maybe the greatest Ottoman Darul Hadith was in
		
00:52:48 --> 00:52:50
			Edirne. The building is still there.
		
00:52:51 --> 00:52:53
			And on his journey,
		
00:52:53 --> 00:52:56
			he meets a Khalwati he meets a Akadri
		
00:52:56 --> 00:52:56
			Sheikh.
		
00:52:58 --> 00:53:00
			And the Qadiri Sheikh, who is a reputed
		
00:53:00 --> 00:53:01
			Sheikh of Anatolia,
		
00:53:02 --> 00:53:04
			as soon as he comes in,
		
00:53:04 --> 00:53:07
			offers him the bey'ah and also offers him
		
00:53:07 --> 00:53:10
			ceremonial sword, which in some branches the calderia,
		
00:53:11 --> 00:53:13
			is a symbol of a higher degree of
		
00:53:13 --> 00:53:13
			initiation.
		
00:53:14 --> 00:53:16
			The sword has a certain symbolic
		
00:53:17 --> 00:53:19
			significance in the world of Tassarwuf, as in
		
00:53:20 --> 00:53:21
			Exoteric Islam.
		
00:53:22 --> 00:53:25
			It's interesting to note that, the tradition of
		
00:53:25 --> 00:53:28
			giving khutba's in the Hagia Sofia mosque in
		
00:53:28 --> 00:53:28
			Istanbul
		
00:53:29 --> 00:53:31
			until Ataturk stopped it in about 1930.
		
00:53:32 --> 00:53:35
			But it was regarded as the the senior
		
00:53:35 --> 00:53:36
			minbar of Istanbul.
		
00:53:37 --> 00:53:38
			Was that
		
00:53:39 --> 00:53:39
			there
		
00:53:40 --> 00:53:41
			were kind of interesting miracles,
		
00:53:43 --> 00:53:44
			identified with the place. So for instance, it
		
00:53:44 --> 00:53:46
			said that when you stand on the Minbar
		
00:53:46 --> 00:53:47
			there, it's really cold.
		
00:53:48 --> 00:53:49
			They say there's
		
00:53:50 --> 00:53:52
			a cold window, Sauk Penjere, which nobody can
		
00:53:52 --> 00:53:55
			really identify, which keeps the the preacher feeling
		
00:53:55 --> 00:53:57
			really cold, which is a way of
		
00:53:58 --> 00:54:00
			enabling him to overcome his
		
00:54:01 --> 00:54:02
			sort of anger, his temperamental
		
00:54:03 --> 00:54:05
			egotism, and to help him remember that even
		
00:54:05 --> 00:54:07
			though he's on this huge, gigantic
		
00:54:08 --> 00:54:10
			pulpit, he's just a little human being. And
		
00:54:10 --> 00:54:12
			also the tradition of giving Khuppaz there, was
		
00:54:12 --> 00:54:15
			instead of the staff, the khatib would always
		
00:54:15 --> 00:54:16
			preach with a sword,
		
00:54:17 --> 00:54:19
			because the city was taken by the sword.
		
00:54:20 --> 00:54:22
			But in the context of Tassowulf,
		
00:54:23 --> 00:54:25
			the fortorward traditions often had
		
00:54:25 --> 00:54:28
			the investiture with a kind of ritual sword,
		
00:54:28 --> 00:54:28
			often
		
00:54:29 --> 00:54:29
			complexly
		
00:54:30 --> 00:54:32
			enameled and engraved
		
00:54:33 --> 00:54:34
			as a symbol of
		
00:54:35 --> 00:54:36
			the the Greater Jihad.
		
00:54:37 --> 00:54:39
			So this is an oddity and he remarks
		
00:54:39 --> 00:54:41
			on it almost in passing and his biographers
		
00:54:42 --> 00:54:43
			refer to it. So, clearly,
		
00:54:44 --> 00:54:46
			these Sufis have a very high regard for
		
00:54:46 --> 00:54:47
			the young man.
		
00:54:48 --> 00:54:48
			But,
		
00:54:50 --> 00:54:51
			he
		
00:54:52 --> 00:54:53
			is following a fairly,
		
00:54:55 --> 00:54:56
			non ritualized
		
00:54:56 --> 00:54:57
			form of
		
00:54:58 --> 00:55:00
			that relates in many ways to his own
		
00:55:00 --> 00:55:03
			family's tradition, particularly the Kodamas,
		
00:55:04 --> 00:55:05
			who are Hanbalis.
		
00:55:06 --> 00:55:08
			And the Hanbalis have always been very close
		
00:55:08 --> 00:55:09
			to the Kadri Tarika.
		
00:55:09 --> 00:55:12
			Abdul Qadri Gilani was a Qadri.
		
00:55:12 --> 00:55:14
			And his ancestor Muafakkadin
		
00:55:14 --> 00:55:17
			ibn Khodama, the great Fakih, the great jurist
		
00:55:17 --> 00:55:17
			of the family,
		
00:55:18 --> 00:55:21
			had traveled to Baghdad to take the take
		
00:55:21 --> 00:55:21
			the Bey'ah.
		
00:55:22 --> 00:55:23
			But an austere
		
00:55:24 --> 00:55:25
			non philosophical
		
00:55:26 --> 00:55:28
			devotional type of Tassar Wolf,
		
00:55:29 --> 00:55:32
			Khajd Abdullah Ansari, perhaps the best known Sufi
		
00:55:32 --> 00:55:34
			writer of what we now call Afghanistan.
		
00:55:35 --> 00:55:35
			Also
		
00:55:36 --> 00:55:39
			a Qadri Hanbali. It's a well known
		
00:55:39 --> 00:55:42
			connection. So, some of the formal institution like
		
00:55:42 --> 00:55:44
			Erada and Behar and the circles of Vicar
		
00:55:44 --> 00:55:46
			and initiation things,
		
00:55:47 --> 00:55:49
			seem to sit quite likely
		
00:55:49 --> 00:55:50
			on him.
		
00:55:51 --> 00:55:54
			He does, however, take a Beyar much later
		
00:55:54 --> 00:55:55
			in the Nakshbandi
		
00:55:56 --> 00:55:59
			from somebody called Abu Sayed al Balkhi, who's
		
00:55:59 --> 00:56:00
			a central Asian.
		
00:56:00 --> 00:56:02
			And the Beyar seems to have been a
		
00:56:02 --> 00:56:05
			more formal affair next to the the the
		
00:56:05 --> 00:56:06
			makam of John the Baptist,
		
00:56:07 --> 00:56:09
			Saint Na'yar, which is in in in the
		
00:56:09 --> 00:56:11
			middle of the Umayyad Mosque, and which is
		
00:56:11 --> 00:56:12
			a traditional place,
		
00:56:13 --> 00:56:13
			for
		
00:56:14 --> 00:56:14
			investitures,
		
00:56:15 --> 00:56:17
			giving Ijazas and giving beyar
		
00:56:17 --> 00:56:18
			in Damascus.
		
00:56:19 --> 00:56:21
			And he receives this,
		
00:56:23 --> 00:56:24
			this authorization.
		
00:56:25 --> 00:56:28
			And he replies by, again, delivering an extemporized
		
00:56:29 --> 00:56:31
			poem. This time it's in Persian.
		
00:56:31 --> 00:56:34
			Okay. Perfect Persian Azan is coming out just
		
00:56:34 --> 00:56:36
			as act of
		
00:56:36 --> 00:56:36
			gratitude.
		
00:56:37 --> 00:56:38
			So he does know
		
00:56:38 --> 00:56:39
			Persian,
		
00:56:39 --> 00:56:41
			Arabic and also Turkish.
		
00:56:41 --> 00:56:43
			Of course, this is part of the Ottoman
		
00:56:43 --> 00:56:43
			Empire
		
00:56:43 --> 00:56:44
			at the time.
		
00:56:45 --> 00:56:47
			But it's interesting that his biographers,
		
00:56:47 --> 00:56:49
			including Al Ghazi and somebody called Hussain,
		
00:56:51 --> 00:56:52
			Tim Sami, who is
		
00:56:53 --> 00:56:56
			his main biographer, who is his student, don't
		
00:56:56 --> 00:56:56
			actually mention
		
00:56:57 --> 00:57:00
			Sufi sheikh amongst in the long list of
		
00:57:00 --> 00:57:02
			his teachers. It'd be conventional, but it doesn't
		
00:57:02 --> 00:57:04
			really seem to have been very formalized.
		
00:57:05 --> 00:57:07
			And here we find one of the very
		
00:57:07 --> 00:57:09
			unusual aspects of his personality,
		
00:57:11 --> 00:57:13
			which is to do with his own human
		
00:57:14 --> 00:57:14
			individuality
		
00:57:15 --> 00:57:17
			and is in some ways, quite unconventional.
		
00:57:17 --> 00:57:19
			And that in many of his writings, he
		
00:57:19 --> 00:57:21
			insists that his principal
		
00:57:22 --> 00:57:25
			spiritual blessings and guidance came through dreams
		
00:57:26 --> 00:57:28
			of people who were long dead, people from
		
00:57:28 --> 00:57:29
			the Balzakh.
		
00:57:31 --> 00:57:33
			It's not really supposed to be the principal
		
00:57:33 --> 00:57:36
			form of spiritual instruction in Islam, but this
		
00:57:36 --> 00:57:37
			is what he said.
		
00:57:39 --> 00:57:41
			And particularly in the Naqshbandi tradition so it
		
00:57:41 --> 00:57:43
			said that Baha'i ad Din Naqshbandi, who is
		
00:57:43 --> 00:57:45
			the founder of the Naqshbandi, Naqshbandi learned much
		
00:57:45 --> 00:57:46
			of his wisdom from
		
00:57:47 --> 00:57:47
			earlier,
		
00:57:48 --> 00:57:49
			teachers,
		
00:57:49 --> 00:57:52
			including particularly, Abdul Khalekh Rojdavani,
		
00:57:54 --> 00:57:54
			whose
		
00:57:55 --> 00:57:57
			mid 12th century
		
00:57:57 --> 00:57:59
			Central Asia is still a town of Khojdevani.
		
00:58:00 --> 00:58:01
			You can visit the mazaar and the mosque.
		
00:58:01 --> 00:58:02
			It's very
		
00:58:03 --> 00:58:04
			limpid peaceful place.
		
00:58:05 --> 00:58:08
			And accepted from him many of the
		
00:58:08 --> 00:58:09
			inward
		
00:58:09 --> 00:58:09
			orientations.
		
00:58:12 --> 00:58:15
			And these, I would say, are the principle
		
00:58:15 --> 00:58:16
			masharab
		
00:58:16 --> 00:58:17
			that determine,
		
00:58:19 --> 00:58:20
			the spiritual orientation
		
00:58:20 --> 00:58:22
			of Abdul Ghani Nablusim.
		
00:58:22 --> 00:58:24
			As I say, an unusual person in many
		
00:58:24 --> 00:58:25
			ways. So,
		
00:58:27 --> 00:58:28
			Bahad Dinotchband,
		
00:58:29 --> 00:58:31
			is known as somebody who stresses
		
00:58:33 --> 00:58:33
			service.
		
00:58:35 --> 00:58:38
			So famously, he spends 7 years
		
00:58:38 --> 00:58:38
			with,
		
00:58:39 --> 00:58:41
			the laborers who are fixing the roads of
		
00:58:41 --> 00:58:42
			Khorasan,
		
00:58:43 --> 00:58:45
			as part of his process of
		
00:58:45 --> 00:58:46
			breaking the ego.
		
00:58:47 --> 00:58:49
			And he also spends 7 years,
		
00:58:50 --> 00:58:51
			as a servitor
		
00:58:52 --> 00:58:54
			of the stray dogs on the streets of
		
00:58:54 --> 00:58:55
			Bukhara.
		
00:58:56 --> 00:58:58
			And so he says that his first moment
		
00:58:58 --> 00:58:59
			of real spiritual
		
00:59:00 --> 00:59:01
			intimacy with God
		
00:59:02 --> 00:59:04
			came when he was binding up the paw
		
00:59:05 --> 00:59:06
			of a sick dog, and the dog looked
		
00:59:06 --> 00:59:08
			at him in a particular way. And in
		
00:59:08 --> 00:59:10
			the moment of that gaze,
		
00:59:10 --> 00:59:12
			he felt that he knew God.
		
00:59:12 --> 00:59:14
			It's a famous moment in the history of
		
00:59:14 --> 00:59:15
			the Nox Bandhir. So it's a way of
		
00:59:16 --> 00:59:19
			it's an austere way of service. And again,
		
00:59:19 --> 00:59:21
			it kind of suits Abdulhany because the Noxbandiya
		
00:59:21 --> 00:59:22
			are not really
		
00:59:23 --> 00:59:23
			very ritualized
		
00:59:24 --> 00:59:26
			by and large. It's quite a
		
00:59:26 --> 00:59:29
			primordial kind of tariqa, which is in many
		
00:59:29 --> 00:59:30
			places helped it to survive.
		
00:59:31 --> 00:59:33
			I remember in the Communist period,
		
00:59:34 --> 00:59:36
			it was actually on Karl Marx's birthday,
		
00:59:37 --> 00:59:39
			and I was really young. I went to
		
00:59:39 --> 00:59:40
			the mazar of,
		
00:59:41 --> 00:59:42
			at Imam al Bukhary,
		
00:59:44 --> 00:59:45
			which is in a village,
		
00:59:45 --> 00:59:47
			Hartank, about
		
00:59:47 --> 00:59:49
			half an hour's drive north of Samarkand.
		
00:59:52 --> 00:59:52
			And,
		
00:59:54 --> 00:59:56
			was hanging out there and the imam came
		
00:59:56 --> 00:59:56
			along,
		
00:59:57 --> 00:59:59
			little Uzbek guy with Uzbek
		
00:59:59 --> 01:00:02
			cap. And, I speak a kind of Arabic
		
01:00:02 --> 01:00:03
			and he speaks a kind of Arabic.
		
01:00:04 --> 01:00:05
			And he says,
		
01:00:05 --> 01:00:07
			yes, we're all of course, we follow the
		
01:00:07 --> 01:00:09
			party here and we love the party and
		
01:00:09 --> 01:00:10
			we keep talking. He said, you know, it's
		
01:00:10 --> 01:00:13
			Ramadan and we are fasting in Ramadan. And
		
01:00:13 --> 01:00:15
			when he got to see that I wasn't
		
01:00:16 --> 01:00:16
			KGB,
		
01:00:17 --> 01:00:19
			He thought as a foreigner, I was probably
		
01:00:19 --> 01:00:22
			fairly safe. And then he said, well, we
		
01:00:22 --> 01:00:24
			keep it going because of tariqat, we're all
		
01:00:24 --> 01:00:24
			nakshbandiya.
		
01:00:25 --> 01:00:28
			And that's the the mashrav, and it's because
		
01:00:28 --> 01:00:28
			the have
		
01:00:29 --> 01:00:31
			as one of their forms, most of them,
		
01:00:31 --> 01:00:32
			the idea of silent thikar.
		
01:00:33 --> 01:00:35
			Parties listening, everything's bugged,
		
01:00:36 --> 01:00:38
			can't hear anything. They're not up to anything.
		
01:00:38 --> 01:00:40
			You got a room with 80 men with
		
01:00:40 --> 01:00:42
			beards, young and old, doing this, not just
		
01:00:44 --> 01:00:45
			can't hear a thing. So,
		
01:00:46 --> 01:00:48
			because of the kind of discursive ideological nature
		
01:00:48 --> 01:00:50
			of Marxism. I think nothing's going on because
		
01:00:50 --> 01:00:52
			there's no teaching being exchanged. So that's how
		
01:00:52 --> 01:00:52
			it
		
01:00:53 --> 01:00:54
			was maintained and,
		
01:00:55 --> 01:00:58
			it's still maintained. It's very interesting studies of
		
01:00:58 --> 01:01:00
			the capacity of the Naxx Bandis, unlike some
		
01:01:00 --> 01:01:04
			other tariqas, to exist in conditions of oppression.
		
01:01:04 --> 01:01:06
			In Ataturk's Turkey as well, it's very difficult
		
01:01:06 --> 01:01:07
			to abolish
		
01:01:08 --> 01:01:10
			something that doesn't really have rituals, doesn't need
		
01:01:10 --> 01:01:10
			paraphernalia,
		
01:01:11 --> 01:01:12
			doesn't need special meeting houses,
		
01:01:13 --> 01:01:15
			people that aren't saying anything in their ceremonies.
		
01:01:17 --> 01:01:17
			So,
		
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			and he has this
		
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			little nachbandi
		
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			thing which and I want to read a
		
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			little bit of the teachings
		
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			of the
		
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			of Khoja Abdul Khaleh Rojdavani, who,
		
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			Abdul
		
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			Ghani felt he had a particular
		
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			unseen
		
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			connection to, who was kind of his
		
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			teacher from beyond the grave, if you like.
		
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			He dies in 11/79.
		
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			Now, in Islamic tradition, you can't learn
		
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			formally,
		
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			from somebody who is no longer in this
		
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			world, and you can't get a fatwa from
		
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			somebody in a dream.
		
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			Instead, it's just general indications
		
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			and urgings to the life,
		
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			of the akhira.
		
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			So the Nasihat Nameh, one of the great
		
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			books of our civilization really, of, Abdul Khaleh
		
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			Rojdavani,
		
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			says this, and it really sums up Abu
		
01:02:13 --> 01:02:14
			Ghani's
		
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			Masharab.
		
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			Lanfik
		
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			and Hadith
		
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			Do not mix with illiterate
		
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			mystics.
		
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			Offer prayers in congregation.
		
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			Do not seek after fame.
		
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			Do not accept any office.
		
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			Do not be a surety for anybody.
		
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			Do not go to the court. Do not
		
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			mix with rulers or princes. Do not build
		
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			a khanakha, a Sufi lodge.
		
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			Do not condemn mystic music. Do not hear
		
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			too much mystic music. Eat only what is
		
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			permitted.
		
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			So far as you can, do not marry
		
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			a woman who wants material comforts.
		
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			Your heart should be full of grief. Your
		
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			body as if of an ailing person. Your
		
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			eyes wet. Your actions sincere, your prayers earnest,
		
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			your dress tattered, your company dervishes,
		
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			and your house should be your mosque, and
		
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			your friend should be God.
		
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			And then the famous principles
		
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			of the Noch Bandiyeh, the arkain,
		
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			which I think really help us to understand
		
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			the
		
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			teachings of Abdul Haeni. And it's always because
		
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			these
		
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			are universal
		
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			virtues,
		
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			need to be,
		
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			born in mind. So here are the principles.
		
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			Hosh dardam.
		
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			Whenever you inhale or exhale,
		
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			remember the presence of God.
		
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			Nazar parqadam.
		
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			Keep an eye on every step you take,
		
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			which means kind of humbly looking down.
		
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			But it also means that whatever step you
		
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			take is to some
		
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			well considered
		
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			goal.
		
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			Safarodarvathan,
		
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			which means traveling back to the homeland,
		
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			to the divine,
		
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			which means considering what you do in the
		
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			light of death and your,
		
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			eternal
		
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			destiny. Halvatar Anjuman,
		
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			being alone
		
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			in the crowd.
		
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			In other words,
		
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			when you're sitting on the Bakerloo line or
		
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			something and stuff is going on, you are
		
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			inwardly centered, you're not spacing out, you're present
		
01:04:09 --> 01:04:10
			with
		
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			the divine. You are alone
		
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			with the divine
		
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			in every situation.
		
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			Yadkart,
		
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			being in a state of dhikr.
		
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			Bazgart,
		
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			watch out for what you're thinking.
		
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			Nigahdasht,
		
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			think about what you're looking at and where
		
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			your mind is wandering.
		
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			Yeah, de dashd.
		
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			Concentrate and make sure that your thoughts are
		
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			not lazy, but are disciplined and directed.
		
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			So those are the basic eight
		
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			principles of the Maqbandiye,
		
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			which become hugely important to
		
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			Maulana Abdul Ghani. So we find this
		
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			again and again,
		
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			and it becomes actually a solace to him
		
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			that he even though in many ways is
		
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			alienated
		
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			from the
		
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			the the people of the city of Damascus,
		
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			who he often has problems with
		
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			and will not associate with, sort of, rulers
		
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			and the like.
		
01:05:12 --> 01:05:14
			He feels a little bit of a loner.
		
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			But his company and his friends are the
		
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			spirits of the departed.
		
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			And he says a lot about this, the
		
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			the vision of the holy prophet in dreams,
		
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			the vision of others in dreams,
		
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			and even in waking states. He has books
		
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			about this, his own experiences and
		
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			what it could mean. And, of course, it's
		
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			not part of firk, not part of Sharia,
		
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			it's part of the Wijdan
		
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			experiential or empirical
		
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			Islam.
		
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			The the bit of religion that tends
		
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			to vanish quite quickly at the hands of
		
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			rationalizing
		
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			or fundamentalist
		
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			reformers.
		
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			It's that tender vulnerable bit of Islam.
		
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			But it is something that, again, is worth
		
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			bearing in mind. One of the things that
		
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			I think he teaches us is the need
		
01:06:00 --> 01:06:02
			to be alert to the
		
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			enigma and the mystery of
		
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			experience in religion.
		
01:06:08 --> 01:06:10
			Nowadays, Islam is
		
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			not so
		
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			much,
		
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			existential
		
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			as propositional.
		
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			This is one of the changes that happened
		
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			in the
		
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			19th century. It's not so much about being
		
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			with God,
		
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			but about being right as much as one
		
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			can.
		
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			And
		
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			for 'Abdu'l Hani, the idea of the divine
		
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			presence and proximity, the Korb,
		
01:06:35 --> 01:06:36
			and the unreality,
		
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			in the eyes of the Barossa of time
		
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			and distance,
		
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			does enable him in ways that to the
		
01:06:43 --> 01:06:44
			modern
		
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			mind seem
		
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			really strange,
		
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			to connect with certain realities.
		
01:06:50 --> 01:06:51
			Now, those realities
		
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			still happen to people and people have all
		
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			kinds of
		
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			odd experiences,
		
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			scissorges,
		
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			odd encounters, premonitions,
		
01:07:04 --> 01:07:06
			and want to know what they mean.
		
01:07:06 --> 01:07:08
			Quite often people email me saying,
		
01:07:09 --> 01:07:10
			you know,
		
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			I had this very strong image of my
		
01:07:13 --> 01:07:14
			uncle's name
		
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			at 3:30
		
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			last week on Wednesday.
		
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			And then when I got home, they told
		
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			me he died.
		
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			That kind of thing. And a lot of
		
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			people have stuff like that. And because it's
		
01:07:24 --> 01:07:27
			from the *, it can't be regulated and
		
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			it's not clear what you do with it.
		
01:07:29 --> 01:07:30
			It's not part of Aqidah
		
01:07:30 --> 01:07:31
			or part of Sharia.
		
01:07:32 --> 01:07:34
			But it is part of the life of
		
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			believers,
		
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			particularly if their hearts are
		
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			receptive
		
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			and not
		
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			dusty
		
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			and turbulent, as a result of allowing the
		
01:07:43 --> 01:07:46
			heart to be endlessly distracted by the latest
		
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			text, and the traffic, and the other stuff
		
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			that that veils us.
		
01:07:51 --> 01:07:52
			What has
		
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			desacralized
		
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			and disenchanted modern man is not so much
		
01:07:56 --> 01:07:59
			Newton and Darwin and that kind of thing,
		
01:07:59 --> 01:08:01
			but rather the fact that people have no
		
01:08:01 --> 01:08:02
			stillness,
		
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			and the heart is constantly agitated and can't
		
01:08:05 --> 01:08:05
			really
		
01:08:06 --> 01:08:08
			see anything any longer. We don't have those,
		
01:08:09 --> 01:08:09
			contemplative
		
01:08:10 --> 01:08:11
			experiences. But for him, it's
		
01:08:13 --> 01:08:15
			important and it's part of the general human
		
01:08:15 --> 01:08:17
			experience. I would say most people,
		
01:08:18 --> 01:08:20
			if you really get to know somebody, at
		
01:08:20 --> 01:08:21
			some point they'll tell you something that they
		
01:08:21 --> 01:08:23
			know doesn't really
		
01:08:24 --> 01:08:27
			have an explanation. But that even Islamically doesn't
		
01:08:27 --> 01:08:30
			really seem to make a lot of sense
		
01:08:30 --> 01:08:32
			or to be particularly helpful, but clearly doesn't
		
01:08:32 --> 01:08:33
			have a material
		
01:08:33 --> 01:08:36
			explanation. Even today people will have those things
		
01:08:36 --> 01:08:37
			because we can't be completely
		
01:08:38 --> 01:08:40
			disconnected from the spirit and our true nature.
		
01:08:40 --> 01:08:41
			And often people
		
01:08:42 --> 01:08:44
			remember those things and cherish them and they
		
01:08:44 --> 01:08:46
			become an important prop to them in an
		
01:08:46 --> 01:08:47
			age that insists
		
01:08:48 --> 01:08:49
			that the surface of things is
		
01:08:50 --> 01:08:51
			all that the thing
		
01:08:51 --> 01:08:52
			can possibly be.
		
01:08:54 --> 01:08:56
			I was recently write reading a biography
		
01:08:57 --> 01:08:59
			of somebody who I thought was about the
		
01:08:59 --> 01:09:00
			most kind of
		
01:09:02 --> 01:09:02
			calculating
		
01:09:03 --> 01:09:05
			and profane of people, who was
		
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			Air Vice Marshal Hugh Dowding.
		
01:09:10 --> 01:09:12
			He was the head of Fighter Command during
		
01:09:12 --> 01:09:14
			the 2nd World War. So he wins the
		
01:09:14 --> 01:09:16
			Battle of Britain. So I guess, a historically,
		
01:09:16 --> 01:09:17
			really gigantic person.
		
01:09:18 --> 01:09:21
			But nobody really liked him. His nickname in
		
01:09:21 --> 01:09:23
			the War Office was, stuffy.
		
01:09:25 --> 01:09:26
			He didn't have many friends.
		
01:09:27 --> 01:09:30
			He was rather melancholy, because he'd married the
		
01:09:30 --> 01:09:31
			girl of his dreams and then she died
		
01:09:31 --> 01:09:33
			the next year and he was quiet.
		
01:09:35 --> 01:09:36
			But,
		
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			after the war, he starts to write about
		
01:09:40 --> 01:09:42
			things that he's already been imprudent enough to
		
01:09:42 --> 01:09:44
			talk about, when he's sort of hanging out
		
01:09:44 --> 01:09:46
			with Churchill and deciding
		
01:09:47 --> 01:09:48
			where to put the squadrons.
		
01:09:49 --> 01:09:50
			Enormously,
		
01:09:50 --> 01:09:50
			cataclysmically
		
01:09:51 --> 01:09:53
			vital decisions when the country really thought it
		
01:09:53 --> 01:09:54
			would be
		
01:09:54 --> 01:09:57
			overrun. My grandmother was given a box of
		
01:09:57 --> 01:09:59
			grenades to keep under her bed, so when
		
01:09:59 --> 01:10:01
			the tanks went by, she could drop grenades
		
01:10:01 --> 01:10:02
			on the heads of the Germans. It was
		
01:10:02 --> 01:10:05
			kind of Brexit, but a trillion times worse.
		
01:10:05 --> 01:10:08
			It was real time of existential panic for
		
01:10:08 --> 01:10:10
			the country. And he was the one who
		
01:10:10 --> 01:10:13
			was responsible for this last line of defense.
		
01:10:14 --> 01:10:14
			And,
		
01:10:16 --> 01:10:17
			he felt,
		
01:10:18 --> 01:10:18
			regularly,
		
01:10:19 --> 01:10:22
			the presence of dead fighter pilots,
		
01:10:23 --> 01:10:25
			and he started to talk about this.
		
01:10:26 --> 01:10:27
			He had dreams,
		
01:10:27 --> 01:10:29
			or he felt they were there in his
		
01:10:29 --> 01:10:29
			office,
		
01:10:30 --> 01:10:33
			and he kept talking about this. Actually, at
		
01:10:33 --> 01:10:35
			the end of the Battle of Britain, even
		
01:10:35 --> 01:10:37
			though he'd, I guess, saved the country, they
		
01:10:37 --> 01:10:38
			sacked him.
		
01:10:38 --> 01:10:41
			Because he kept talking about these sort of
		
01:10:41 --> 01:10:43
			vague things and there was, you know, I
		
01:10:43 --> 01:10:45
			know that that fighter pilot was with that
		
01:10:45 --> 01:10:47
			squadron and he didn't survive.
		
01:10:48 --> 01:10:50
			He felt and it's, I think, to do
		
01:10:50 --> 01:10:52
			or perhaps it's to do with this
		
01:10:53 --> 01:10:55
			Nazar Barukhadam, this
		
01:10:55 --> 01:10:58
			immense attentiveness to the moment, which has to
		
01:10:58 --> 01:11:00
			be the way of the warriors, the samurai,
		
01:11:02 --> 01:11:05
			preternatural awareness of everything or you die. That
		
01:11:05 --> 01:11:07
			he was in that state and these rib
		
01:11:07 --> 01:11:08
			things, who knows,
		
01:11:10 --> 01:11:12
			appeared. And he thought maybe they're not ghosts,
		
01:11:12 --> 01:11:14
			maybe they're spirits that were attached to them.
		
01:11:14 --> 01:11:16
			And he didn't really have the language of
		
01:11:16 --> 01:11:18
			jinn or the way in which we necessarily,
		
01:11:18 --> 01:11:19
			indeterminately,
		
01:11:20 --> 01:11:21
			talk about these things. But it became a
		
01:11:21 --> 01:11:24
			very important thing. So at one point,
		
01:11:24 --> 01:11:26
			he has a dream. He writes about this
		
01:11:26 --> 01:11:27
			after the war.
		
01:11:28 --> 01:11:30
			He has a dream about a fighter pilot
		
01:11:30 --> 01:11:31
			who's died,
		
01:11:33 --> 01:11:35
			And the fighter pilot, who's called Max,
		
01:11:36 --> 01:11:38
			says, you should invite my mother out to
		
01:11:38 --> 01:11:39
			lunch. You'll like her.
		
01:11:41 --> 01:11:43
			So because he's already kind of believing in
		
01:11:43 --> 01:11:46
			this world that's that's become really real, he
		
01:11:46 --> 01:11:49
			looks up the family and he finds the
		
01:11:49 --> 01:11:49
			mother's,
		
01:11:50 --> 01:11:52
			the bereaved mother's address. And he invites her
		
01:11:52 --> 01:11:54
			out to lunch. She was kind of what
		
01:11:54 --> 01:11:55
			is this?
		
01:11:57 --> 01:11:57
			But,
		
01:11:58 --> 01:11:59
			she has also,
		
01:11:59 --> 01:12:01
			according to Air Vice Marshal Dowding,
		
01:12:02 --> 01:12:03
			when she tells him afterwards,
		
01:12:04 --> 01:12:05
			she has had a dream of his name,
		
01:12:05 --> 01:12:06
			Hugh.
		
01:12:08 --> 01:12:09
			So they have this lunch
		
01:12:11 --> 01:12:12
			in wartime London and,
		
01:12:13 --> 01:12:14
			eventually, they end up getting married.
		
01:12:15 --> 01:12:17
			And it becomes a kind of story because
		
01:12:17 --> 01:12:20
			she's very keen on esoteric things.
		
01:12:21 --> 01:12:22
			She makes him a vegetarian,
		
01:12:22 --> 01:12:24
			and she starts
		
01:12:24 --> 01:12:25
			Britain's first
		
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			ethical
		
01:12:27 --> 01:12:28
			cosmetics
		
01:12:28 --> 01:12:31
			company. So she's in that world of being
		
01:12:31 --> 01:12:33
			really aware of, without having much to do
		
01:12:33 --> 01:12:36
			with Christianity or any particular religion. But I
		
01:12:36 --> 01:12:38
			thought that was interesting that somebody coming out
		
01:12:38 --> 01:12:39
			of that really
		
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			high-tech
		
01:12:41 --> 01:12:42
			conflict,
		
01:12:42 --> 01:12:44
			sitting behind a desk in the
		
01:12:44 --> 01:12:47
			the the the war ministry could have had
		
01:12:47 --> 01:12:49
			those kinds of experiences which which stayed with
		
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			them.
		
01:12:51 --> 01:12:53
			We struggle to articulate that. But for so
		
01:12:53 --> 01:12:55
			many people in history, they have had some
		
01:12:55 --> 01:12:56
			sort of
		
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			thinning of the veil and an awareness of,
		
01:13:00 --> 01:13:03
			the mysteries of the Balzac, which usually we
		
01:13:03 --> 01:13:05
			don't have words to convey and we come
		
01:13:05 --> 01:13:06
			up with strange ideas
		
01:13:07 --> 01:13:09
			like seances and mediums and ghosts and it's
		
01:13:09 --> 01:13:11
			not like that at all. It's something harder
		
01:13:11 --> 01:13:13
			to put into words, which is why religion
		
01:13:13 --> 01:13:15
			leaves it. In Islam, you're not really supposed
		
01:13:15 --> 01:13:17
			to delve into those things, but
		
01:13:17 --> 01:13:20
			sometimes people have those experiences anyway. So this
		
01:13:20 --> 01:13:22
			seems to have been important for Abdulhamid,
		
01:13:25 --> 01:13:28
			that he communes with the great olema of
		
01:13:28 --> 01:13:29
			the past.
		
01:13:30 --> 01:13:31
			Not giving him fatwas,
		
01:13:31 --> 01:13:33
			but they're somehow a presence,
		
01:13:34 --> 01:13:36
			that supports him. So he has a relationship
		
01:13:36 --> 01:13:38
			with Jalaluddin Rumi, for instance.
		
01:13:39 --> 01:13:41
			It helps, I guess, talking in Persian.
		
01:13:41 --> 01:13:43
			If you see somebody who speaks Persian in
		
01:13:43 --> 01:13:44
			a dream. So,
		
01:13:45 --> 01:13:48
			he's he writes about this and he writes
		
01:13:48 --> 01:13:49
			books about
		
01:13:50 --> 01:13:51
			the many olema in the past who have
		
01:13:51 --> 01:13:54
			had similar experiences. And, the validity of taking
		
01:13:54 --> 01:13:56
			spiritual teachings from people who
		
01:13:56 --> 01:13:58
			are from another plane or another
		
01:13:59 --> 01:14:00
			age. And, this seems to have helped him
		
01:14:00 --> 01:14:01
			with his loneliness.
		
01:14:03 --> 01:14:04
			So at the age of 40, we have
		
01:14:04 --> 01:14:07
			the kind of Ghazali type crisis moment in
		
01:14:07 --> 01:14:08
			his career,
		
01:14:09 --> 01:14:12
			which is kind of enigmatic, rather like Ghazali's
		
01:14:12 --> 01:14:13
			crisis.
		
01:14:15 --> 01:14:16
			Some modern scholars
		
01:14:17 --> 01:14:19
			of a reductionist bent say that he suffered
		
01:14:19 --> 01:14:20
			from depression.
		
01:14:23 --> 01:14:26
			Probably not, because he was actually extremely active.
		
01:14:26 --> 01:14:28
			People who suffer from depression tend to be
		
01:14:28 --> 01:14:30
			a bit kind of listless and unfocused.
		
01:14:30 --> 01:14:32
			But some of his great works were written
		
01:14:32 --> 01:14:33
			during this
		
01:14:37 --> 01:14:39
			period. At the age of 40,
		
01:14:39 --> 01:14:39
			he
		
01:14:40 --> 01:14:42
			goes into a kind of halwa,
		
01:14:42 --> 01:14:43
			a retreat.
		
01:14:45 --> 01:14:47
			He'd never been particularly sociable.
		
01:14:50 --> 01:14:51
			So
		
01:14:51 --> 01:14:54
			when he's still in his twenties, Damascus
		
01:14:54 --> 01:14:56
			is excited because the Imam of the Haram
		
01:14:56 --> 01:14:59
			and Medina, Abdul Rahman Al Qiyari, who's a
		
01:14:59 --> 01:15:01
			great Kalam scholar and Sufi, is visiting.
		
01:15:01 --> 01:15:03
			And, of course, there's a big reception
		
01:15:04 --> 01:15:04
			to honor him.
		
01:15:05 --> 01:15:06
			And,
		
01:15:06 --> 01:15:09
			Al Qiyari has heard of Abdulkarni, looks around,
		
01:15:09 --> 01:15:10
			but he's not there.
		
01:15:10 --> 01:15:12
			And he asks about him and say, well,
		
01:15:12 --> 01:15:14
			he's he's at home as usual. So he
		
01:15:14 --> 01:15:16
			has to have a a special
		
01:15:16 --> 01:15:19
			audience with him. They converse
		
01:15:19 --> 01:15:21
			privately, which indicates, I guess, that already in
		
01:15:21 --> 01:15:24
			his twenties, Abduhanni is kind of known internationally.
		
01:15:25 --> 01:15:26
			And we're also told that when they had
		
01:15:26 --> 01:15:28
			the conversation, it was carried out entirely in
		
01:15:28 --> 01:15:29
			poetry,
		
01:15:29 --> 01:15:30
			of course.
		
01:15:32 --> 01:15:35
			So Kheri later writes that
		
01:15:35 --> 01:15:37
			Sheikh Abdul Ghani is one who saw mixing
		
01:15:37 --> 01:15:39
			with people as a waste of time.
		
01:15:40 --> 01:15:42
			With a path of happiness and expansion, bust
		
01:15:42 --> 01:15:44
			being the worship of God in the privacy
		
01:15:44 --> 01:15:48
			of one's own home, and avoiding public life.
		
01:15:48 --> 01:15:51
			And he said he actually prefers associating with
		
01:15:51 --> 01:15:52
			books than with people.
		
01:15:54 --> 01:15:54
			So this,
		
01:15:55 --> 01:15:57
			Halwa, when he kind of formally disappears, and
		
01:15:57 --> 01:15:59
			he really disappears for 7 years, happens in
		
01:15:59 --> 01:16:00
			year 16/80.
		
01:16:03 --> 01:16:05
			Modern scholars say, well, maybe it's because of
		
01:16:05 --> 01:16:08
			academic rivalries or maybe because of abuse,
		
01:16:09 --> 01:16:11
			roughness of street life and is very refined
		
01:16:11 --> 01:16:12
			and can't take it. So he just stays
		
01:16:12 --> 01:16:14
			at home. Well,
		
01:16:14 --> 01:16:16
			we know that he's written poetry in which
		
01:16:16 --> 01:16:18
			he's critical of the city. So he says
		
01:16:18 --> 01:16:19
			things like this. Oh, you that intends to
		
01:16:19 --> 01:16:23
			enter this city, enter not, for in Damascus
		
01:16:23 --> 01:16:24
			devils dwell.
		
01:16:25 --> 01:16:27
			Take care that the darkness which you will
		
01:16:27 --> 01:16:29
			behold may not extinguish your light.
		
01:16:30 --> 01:16:31
			From this garden city, you should run and
		
01:16:31 --> 01:16:32
			flee,
		
01:16:32 --> 01:16:35
			not thinking them to be roses and narcissi.
		
01:16:37 --> 01:16:38
			So at this time, he writes a book
		
01:16:38 --> 01:16:39
			to explain
		
01:16:40 --> 01:16:42
			the, practice of seclusion.
		
01:16:43 --> 01:16:45
			And it's basically a Hadith collection,
		
01:16:47 --> 01:16:50
			because there are plenty of Hadith that indicate
		
01:16:50 --> 01:16:50
			that
		
01:16:51 --> 01:16:54
			solitude and avoiding the crowd are appropriate in
		
01:16:54 --> 01:16:56
			times of fitna and particularly in the end
		
01:16:56 --> 01:16:57
			times.
		
01:16:57 --> 01:17:00
			So this is his book, Tecmila no'aut filosome
		
01:17:01 --> 01:17:01
			al boy'aut,
		
01:17:03 --> 01:17:04
			which is
		
01:17:04 --> 01:17:05
			basically
		
01:17:06 --> 01:17:09
			you translate the title as something like,
		
01:17:09 --> 01:17:11
			the perfection of discourse on
		
01:17:12 --> 01:17:14
			remaining at home, which he publishes in
		
01:17:14 --> 01:17:15
			16/85.
		
01:17:15 --> 01:17:16
			So he writes
		
01:17:17 --> 01:17:19
			things like this, because obviously people are criticizing
		
01:17:20 --> 01:17:21
			him. He's not even coming out for the
		
01:17:21 --> 01:17:23
			5 daily prayers. He's praying at home.
		
01:17:24 --> 01:17:26
			Whosoever is certain that the harms he will
		
01:17:26 --> 01:17:28
			receive through mixing with people when attending the
		
01:17:28 --> 01:17:28
			prayer,
		
01:17:29 --> 01:17:31
			and so on, are greater than the harms
		
01:17:31 --> 01:17:33
			he will receive through leaving those things,
		
01:17:33 --> 01:17:35
			then he will have a valid excuse in
		
01:17:35 --> 01:17:36
			leaving them.
		
01:17:37 --> 01:17:38
			While in Mecca, I saw a Sheikh from
		
01:17:38 --> 01:17:41
			the people of knowledge who had secluded himself
		
01:17:41 --> 01:17:43
			and did not attend the sacred mosque for
		
01:17:43 --> 01:17:44
			the congregational prayers,
		
01:17:44 --> 01:17:47
			despite his proximity to it and despite the
		
01:17:47 --> 01:17:48
			purity of his wealth.
		
01:17:49 --> 01:17:51
			Because scholars would not regard it as valid,
		
01:17:51 --> 01:17:53
			for instance, to pay for a horse to
		
01:17:53 --> 01:17:55
			take you to the mosque if the wealth
		
01:17:55 --> 01:17:57
			you were spending on the horse was from
		
01:17:57 --> 01:17:58
			a dubious
		
01:17:58 --> 01:18:00
			source. I spoke with him about that one
		
01:18:00 --> 01:18:02
			day as I was visiting him, and he
		
01:18:02 --> 01:18:04
			told me that the divine rewards that you
		
01:18:04 --> 01:18:05
			would find in attending
		
01:18:06 --> 01:18:08
			Sacred Mosque could not outweigh the sins and
		
01:18:08 --> 01:18:10
			misdeeds he would accrue as a result of
		
01:18:10 --> 01:18:12
			going to the mosque and meeting people.
		
01:18:13 --> 01:18:15
			Actually, Imam Malik, if you remember, does the
		
01:18:15 --> 01:18:17
			same thing. He's in Medina for years, and
		
01:18:17 --> 01:18:19
			even though he's next to the Haram, he
		
01:18:19 --> 01:18:21
			sees certain things that disturb his heart, and
		
01:18:21 --> 01:18:22
			so he finds it better for him to
		
01:18:22 --> 01:18:25
			pray at home with his family and with
		
01:18:25 --> 01:18:26
			his
		
01:18:26 --> 01:18:27
			students.
		
01:18:27 --> 01:18:29
			People nowadays find this
		
01:18:30 --> 01:18:32
			an oddity, but this was the state he
		
01:18:32 --> 01:18:33
			was in. He would find more
		
01:18:34 --> 01:18:36
			intimacy and more closeness with God with his
		
01:18:36 --> 01:18:37
			prayers at home than,
		
01:18:38 --> 01:18:39
			in the city's mosques.
		
01:18:40 --> 01:18:40
			So
		
01:18:40 --> 01:18:42
			one of his students
		
01:18:42 --> 01:18:43
			later describes
		
01:18:44 --> 01:18:45
			this period as follows.
		
01:18:47 --> 01:18:49
			Nobody was able to meet him, may Allah
		
01:18:49 --> 01:18:50
			be pleased with him.
		
01:18:50 --> 01:18:52
			A tray of food used to be prepared
		
01:18:52 --> 01:18:54
			for him, but he rarely ate anything.
		
01:18:54 --> 01:18:56
			And when he did, he only ate very
		
01:18:56 --> 01:18:57
			little.
		
01:18:57 --> 01:18:59
			I was told by someone I trust that
		
01:18:59 --> 01:19:01
			every night, his family used to bring it
		
01:19:01 --> 01:19:02
			to his room a tray of food and
		
01:19:02 --> 01:19:04
			drink, put it in front of him, and
		
01:19:04 --> 01:19:07
			leave without any verbal exchange or eye contact,
		
01:19:07 --> 01:19:08
			shutting the door behind them.
		
01:19:09 --> 01:19:11
			And when they returned after an hour to
		
01:19:11 --> 01:19:12
			take back the tray, they would find it
		
01:19:12 --> 01:19:13
			unchanged,
		
01:19:13 --> 01:19:15
			nothing having been consumed.
		
01:19:16 --> 01:19:18
			In his seclusion he also rarely slept
		
01:19:19 --> 01:19:20
			and he did not leave except for the
		
01:19:20 --> 01:19:22
			call of nature and for evolution
		
01:19:22 --> 01:19:24
			and without being noticed, if possible.
		
01:19:24 --> 01:19:26
			In that time he stopped cutting his hair
		
01:19:26 --> 01:19:27
			and beard.
		
01:19:29 --> 01:19:31
			So he was reading the books of earlier
		
01:19:31 --> 01:19:33
			generations whom he felt he could relate to
		
01:19:33 --> 01:19:36
			in this time of disturbance and spiritual decline.
		
01:19:36 --> 01:19:38
			And he said they the the dead are
		
01:19:38 --> 01:19:40
			like the living, whereas the living are like
		
01:19:40 --> 01:19:41
			the dead.
		
01:19:42 --> 01:19:44
			And he writes this in the same book.
		
01:19:44 --> 01:19:46
			In this our age, I have witnessed a
		
01:19:46 --> 01:19:48
			people from all the peoples, the Arabs, the
		
01:19:48 --> 01:19:50
			Persians, the Indians, the Turks, and others also,
		
01:19:50 --> 01:19:51
			who attained
		
01:19:52 --> 01:19:53
			by reading books of Haqqaiq,
		
01:19:53 --> 01:19:55
			spiritual realities,
		
01:19:55 --> 01:19:57
			the degrees of the great sages, and who
		
01:19:57 --> 01:20:00
			gained from those volumes the object of all
		
01:20:00 --> 01:20:00
			of their aspirations.
		
01:20:02 --> 01:20:05
			If after reading, one supports one's knowledge with
		
01:20:05 --> 01:20:06
			nafila practices and mujhada,
		
01:20:07 --> 01:20:10
			spiritual sacrifice and effort. One becomes one of
		
01:20:10 --> 01:20:11
			the people of perfection.
		
01:20:15 --> 01:20:18
			This is, again, something of contemporary
		
01:20:18 --> 01:20:21
			relevance, because people often ask, well, where is
		
01:20:21 --> 01:20:23
			the, the man of God preferably
		
01:20:24 --> 01:20:26
			only a few stops away on the underground.
		
01:20:26 --> 01:20:27
			So I can visit
		
01:20:27 --> 01:20:30
			with the white turban and the twinkling eyes
		
01:20:30 --> 01:20:33
			and the flowing beard. Who will see into
		
01:20:33 --> 01:20:35
			my soul and take me up to the
		
01:20:35 --> 01:20:37
			divine. That's a legitimate aspiration and then people
		
01:20:37 --> 01:20:38
			find, well,
		
01:20:39 --> 01:20:42
			if they're there, they're not unveiling themselves.
		
01:20:43 --> 01:20:46
			Is this whole spiritual dimension of Islam, which
		
01:20:46 --> 01:20:48
			depends so much on personal
		
01:20:49 --> 01:20:49
			effusion,
		
01:20:50 --> 01:20:52
			no longer part of the religion, and we
		
01:20:52 --> 01:20:54
			are just people of rules and doctrines?
		
01:20:55 --> 01:20:57
			Is that all that Islam has become?
		
01:20:57 --> 01:20:58
			Propositional
		
01:20:58 --> 01:21:00
			rather than existential.
		
01:21:01 --> 01:21:03
			Abu Ghani is giving us a kind of
		
01:21:03 --> 01:21:05
			way forward by saying,
		
01:21:05 --> 01:21:09
			well, the Barzakh is a reality. You can
		
01:21:09 --> 01:21:11
			be connected to those people through humbly reading
		
01:21:11 --> 01:21:12
			their books.
		
01:21:12 --> 01:21:14
			But the upshot of it all has to
		
01:21:14 --> 01:21:17
			be that you intensify your outward practices
		
01:21:18 --> 01:21:19
			and you overcome the ego,
		
01:21:20 --> 01:21:22
			rather than falling into some kind of
		
01:21:23 --> 01:21:23
			personalized
		
01:21:24 --> 01:21:25
			bespoke religion.
		
01:21:25 --> 01:21:27
			You read Rumi and then you end up
		
01:21:28 --> 01:21:29
			doing
		
01:21:29 --> 01:21:31
			God knows what. No. It's about
		
01:21:32 --> 01:21:32
			intensification
		
01:21:33 --> 01:21:36
			of outward normativity, and that's the sign of
		
01:21:36 --> 01:21:37
			its validity.
		
01:21:38 --> 01:21:40
			So, this is something that can be done
		
01:21:40 --> 01:21:43
			at any time by anybody by respectfully picking
		
01:21:43 --> 01:21:45
			up the books of the ancient
		
01:21:46 --> 01:21:47
			ancient ones,
		
01:21:48 --> 01:21:51
			and helps us to overcome that
		
01:21:51 --> 01:21:53
			excuse within us that says, well, I can't
		
01:21:53 --> 01:21:54
			do all of this
		
01:21:54 --> 01:21:57
			exotic spiritual stuff because, I I need a
		
01:21:57 --> 01:21:58
			teacher.
		
01:22:09 --> 01:22:10
			Famous Turkish
		
01:22:10 --> 01:22:11
			couplet.
		
01:22:12 --> 01:22:14
			Do not say lying around, who is going
		
01:22:14 --> 01:22:16
			to guide me to the path?
		
01:22:16 --> 01:22:19
			Stand up at this moment because Allah is
		
01:22:19 --> 01:22:22
			the Waleel Tawfiq. He is the guarantor of
		
01:22:22 --> 01:22:22
			success.
		
01:22:23 --> 01:22:26
			Don't think that he can't open the most
		
01:22:26 --> 01:22:29
			amazing inward doors for you and make your
		
01:22:29 --> 01:22:29
			life
		
01:22:30 --> 01:22:31
			easy and beautiful,
		
01:22:32 --> 01:22:35
			just because Sheikh X is not conveniently on
		
01:22:35 --> 01:22:36
			the horizon.
		
01:22:36 --> 01:22:38
			Sheikh X is just a suburb, but ultimately,
		
01:22:39 --> 01:22:42
			spiritual growth is a divine gift. And he
		
01:22:42 --> 01:22:43
			can offer you that gift,
		
01:22:43 --> 01:22:46
			whenever he chooses. He's not subject to the
		
01:22:46 --> 01:22:48
			rules of any institutionalized
		
01:22:48 --> 01:22:49
			spirituality.
		
01:22:50 --> 01:22:52
			So this is important.
		
01:22:53 --> 01:22:54
			Let us not fall into lassitude
		
01:22:55 --> 01:22:56
			and apathy and cynicism,
		
01:22:57 --> 01:22:59
			because the man with the flowing white beard
		
01:22:59 --> 01:23:00
			is not taking our hand,
		
01:23:01 --> 01:23:03
			in a convenient way. But remember that the
		
01:23:03 --> 01:23:06
			divine nature is always close. He is Kareeb,
		
01:23:07 --> 01:23:09
			He is Waleel Tawfiq, and he can open
		
01:23:09 --> 01:23:11
			doors to us, as he did for Sheikh
		
01:23:11 --> 01:23:15
			Abdulhane, with his eccentric relationship to official to
		
01:23:15 --> 01:23:15
			Sarwar,
		
01:23:16 --> 01:23:17
			in a way of his choosing.
		
01:23:17 --> 01:23:20
			God always acts on his terms, not on
		
01:23:20 --> 01:23:20
			ours.
		
01:23:22 --> 01:23:22
			So
		
01:23:23 --> 01:23:25
			in this period, when he's kind of letting
		
01:23:25 --> 01:23:27
			his hair grow and not going out much,
		
01:23:27 --> 01:23:29
			he's actually very productive.
		
01:23:30 --> 01:23:32
			Some of his greatest books emerge in this
		
01:23:32 --> 01:23:34
			period. Remember, this is somebody who
		
01:23:35 --> 01:23:37
			writes over 300 books and counting.
		
01:23:38 --> 01:23:38
			10 years
		
01:23:39 --> 01:23:41
			ago, we used to think it was 208
		
01:23:41 --> 01:23:44
			280. But new books are coming to light
		
01:23:44 --> 01:23:45
			all the time.
		
01:23:45 --> 01:23:47
			Quite an extraordinary output and some of them,
		
01:23:47 --> 01:23:50
			as we saw with this poetic commentary, are
		
01:23:51 --> 01:23:52
			very dense.
		
01:23:53 --> 01:23:56
			So he writes a major commentary on Ibn
		
01:23:56 --> 01:23:58
			Arabi's Fosus Al Hikam.
		
01:23:59 --> 01:24:01
			And that's one of the toughest books in
		
01:24:01 --> 01:24:02
			Islamic metaphysics.
		
01:24:03 --> 01:24:06
			And he's writing a commentary specifically focusing on
		
01:24:06 --> 01:24:08
			some of the difficult, most controversial aspects within
		
01:24:08 --> 01:24:11
			it. And this is something many scholars have
		
01:24:11 --> 01:24:12
			done this before.
		
01:24:12 --> 01:24:13
			And in Damascus, Avrokhandeluzar,
		
01:24:14 --> 01:24:16
			he was to write his kind of commentary
		
01:24:16 --> 01:24:18
			on Fossoosun, at Hikam Kitab al Muwakif,
		
01:24:19 --> 01:24:21
			which has been translated, I think, recently.
		
01:24:22 --> 01:24:23
			Really difficult.
		
01:24:24 --> 01:24:26
			He also writes a book that becomes much
		
01:24:26 --> 01:24:27
			more widespread and
		
01:24:33 --> 01:24:34
			Pir Ali al Birgavi,
		
01:24:35 --> 01:24:36
			who's an Ottoman scholar
		
01:24:37 --> 01:24:40
			and preacher in Istanbul called Atariqa al Muhammadiyyah,
		
01:24:41 --> 01:24:42
			the Mohammedan way.
		
01:24:44 --> 01:24:45
			And this,
		
01:24:46 --> 01:24:49
			Tariq al Muhammediyah is a major work. It's
		
01:24:49 --> 01:24:49
			in Arabic,
		
01:24:51 --> 01:24:53
			and is endlessly reprinted pre printed. And you
		
01:24:53 --> 01:24:55
			can pick up cheap editions. And it's a
		
01:24:55 --> 01:24:56
			very worthwhile,
		
01:24:57 --> 01:24:57
			sincere,
		
01:24:58 --> 01:25:01
			Hussalian practical, non theoretical kind of set of
		
01:25:01 --> 01:25:03
			advices. There's an English translation of it now.
		
01:25:04 --> 01:25:07
			And it's about following the middle way in
		
01:25:07 --> 01:25:07
			all things.
		
01:25:08 --> 01:25:09
			Not because that's a compromise,
		
01:25:10 --> 01:25:12
			but because that is the most rigorous and
		
01:25:12 --> 01:25:15
			authentic way of following the prophet.
		
01:25:15 --> 01:25:18
			The zealot or the bigot or the
		
01:25:18 --> 01:25:18
			libertine
		
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			thinks that he, through the intensity
		
01:25:22 --> 01:25:24
			of his indulgence or austerity,
		
01:25:25 --> 01:25:26
			is being authentic
		
01:25:26 --> 01:25:28
			and is finding some real existential
		
01:25:29 --> 01:25:30
			experience of the world.
		
01:25:31 --> 01:25:32
			The real
		
01:25:32 --> 01:25:34
			effort is to find the middle way.
		
01:25:35 --> 01:25:35
			Extremes
		
01:25:35 --> 01:25:38
			of any kind are an indulgence.
		
01:25:39 --> 01:25:40
			The middle way requires
		
01:25:41 --> 01:25:43
			a lot of self discipline
		
01:25:43 --> 01:25:46
			and paring away of the turbulences of the
		
01:25:46 --> 01:25:48
			ego. So it's definitely a book worth reading.
		
01:25:48 --> 01:25:49
			It's early
		
01:25:50 --> 01:25:51
			16th century, I guess.
		
01:25:53 --> 01:25:56
			One of the things that he talks about
		
01:25:56 --> 01:25:59
			is the need to give people easier fatwas.
		
01:26:06 --> 01:26:09
			He says whatever you do, whatever you do,
		
01:26:09 --> 01:26:11
			give pea do not give people
		
01:26:11 --> 01:26:12
			the more difficult
		
01:26:13 --> 01:26:14
			of the possible fatwas,
		
01:26:15 --> 01:26:16
			the more precautionary.
		
01:26:18 --> 01:26:19
			Why? Because the people at this age are
		
01:26:19 --> 01:26:20
			weak,
		
01:26:21 --> 01:26:22
			and if you give them difficult fatwas, they
		
01:26:22 --> 01:26:24
			will collapse under the weight and start to
		
01:26:24 --> 01:26:25
			dislike
		
01:26:25 --> 01:26:26
			the Sharia.
		
01:26:27 --> 01:26:28
			Give them the easiest,
		
01:26:28 --> 01:26:30
			as long as it's halal, and this, of
		
01:26:30 --> 01:26:31
			course, is a prophetic counsel.
		
01:26:32 --> 01:26:34
			The ego doesn't always like
		
01:26:34 --> 01:26:37
			giving people easy options because we assume it's
		
01:26:37 --> 01:26:39
			because of our laziness or some kind of
		
01:26:39 --> 01:26:41
			liberal Islam. But for Birgivi, no,
		
01:26:42 --> 01:26:44
			for Birgivi, it is taqwa
		
01:26:45 --> 01:26:48
			to give the ordinary Muslims the easier interpretations.
		
01:26:49 --> 01:26:50
			And it is usually the ego
		
01:26:50 --> 01:26:53
			that wants the harder interpretation, because it's a
		
01:26:53 --> 01:26:54
			form of self praise.
		
01:26:54 --> 01:26:57
			It's a kind of Sufi understanding of
		
01:26:57 --> 01:27:00
			fatwa policy, and it represents the usual
		
01:27:00 --> 01:27:01
			fiqh,
		
01:27:01 --> 01:27:02
			position. But nowadays,
		
01:27:03 --> 01:27:05
			we tend to assume that the narrower you
		
01:27:05 --> 01:27:08
			are, the less compromises you make, the more
		
01:27:08 --> 01:27:11
			the West will be angry, and therefore, the
		
01:27:11 --> 01:27:13
			better a Muslim you must you must be.
		
01:27:13 --> 01:27:14
			The kind of psychological,
		
01:27:15 --> 01:27:19
			way of doing fatwa. Whatever is most extreme
		
01:27:19 --> 01:27:20
			shows how
		
01:27:20 --> 01:27:22
			authentic I am.
		
01:27:22 --> 01:27:24
			So every group of the extreme groups become
		
01:27:24 --> 01:27:26
			more extreme than the one before.
		
01:27:26 --> 01:27:29
			So al Qaeda was really bad, but they
		
01:27:29 --> 01:27:30
			weren't extreme enough for dash.
		
01:27:31 --> 01:27:33
			And then dash, and there's even worse things
		
01:27:33 --> 01:27:36
			happening, and that's the nature of because the
		
01:27:36 --> 01:27:37
			extreme is a downward
		
01:27:38 --> 01:27:40
			process, because it's governed by the ego. So
		
01:27:40 --> 01:27:42
			it's easier for it to slip
		
01:27:42 --> 01:27:44
			more and more towards its own nature. Whereas
		
01:27:44 --> 01:27:46
			the golden mean is kind of a summit
		
01:27:46 --> 01:27:49
			and it's a struggle to get that. Because
		
01:27:49 --> 01:27:51
			the ego doesn't want balance because you have
		
01:27:51 --> 01:27:52
			to think and make sacrifices.
		
01:27:53 --> 01:27:54
			In any case, Birgave is is one of
		
01:27:54 --> 01:27:56
			the the best places to go to for
		
01:27:56 --> 01:27:57
			this
		
01:27:57 --> 01:27:58
			traditional,
		
01:27:59 --> 01:28:01
			wisdom. So he writes it in this period.
		
01:28:01 --> 01:28:03
			Another book he writes in his,
		
01:28:03 --> 01:28:04
			7 years of seclusion
		
01:28:05 --> 01:28:07
			is really another best seller,
		
01:28:07 --> 01:28:08
			which is called,
		
01:28:14 --> 01:28:15
			Perfuming humanity
		
01:28:15 --> 01:28:17
			through the interpretation of dreams.
		
01:28:18 --> 01:28:20
			It's obviously important for him because much of
		
01:28:20 --> 01:28:22
			his inward life is to do with
		
01:28:23 --> 01:28:25
			Barzakh experiences and visions and dreams.
		
01:28:26 --> 01:28:29
			So he writes what is actually the most
		
01:28:29 --> 01:28:33
			popular book ever in Islamic history on dream
		
01:28:33 --> 01:28:33
			interpretation.
		
01:28:35 --> 01:28:37
			Now, the scholars who are experts in these
		
01:28:37 --> 01:28:39
			things would say, well, you really need, this
		
01:28:39 --> 01:28:40
			is a kind of manual
		
01:28:41 --> 01:28:43
			for somebody who's an expert.
		
01:28:44 --> 01:28:45
			It's like,
		
01:28:46 --> 01:28:49
			you don't really necessarily want to give
		
01:28:49 --> 01:28:50
			a GPS
		
01:28:51 --> 01:28:52
			as a gift to somebody who can't even
		
01:28:52 --> 01:28:53
			drive.
		
01:28:54 --> 01:28:56
			You have to know what the discipline is
		
01:28:56 --> 01:28:58
			before you need the literature and the equipment
		
01:28:58 --> 01:29:00
			that that goes with it. So you can
		
01:29:00 --> 01:29:02
			look up things in it and sometimes it'll
		
01:29:02 --> 01:29:04
			help, but sometimes it won't.
		
01:29:05 --> 01:29:07
			So once when I was living in Macca,
		
01:29:08 --> 01:29:09
			this guy came to me and said, I
		
01:29:09 --> 01:29:11
			had a dream of 7 flying turtles.
		
01:29:13 --> 01:29:14
			I know there's a lot of hashi shit
		
01:29:14 --> 01:29:15
			and then
		
01:29:16 --> 01:29:18
			I looked it up in this book, and,
		
01:29:18 --> 01:29:20
			yeah, there's a dream of 7 flying turtles
		
01:29:20 --> 01:29:21
			and it means this. And I said, well,
		
01:29:21 --> 01:29:23
			according to Nablusi, it means this. Yes. Yes.
		
01:29:23 --> 01:29:24
			He said, Alhamdulillah.
		
01:29:26 --> 01:29:27
			I don't know. 1 hour of
		
01:29:29 --> 01:29:29
			so
		
01:29:30 --> 01:29:33
			kind of there is wisdom there, but generally
		
01:29:33 --> 01:29:36
			the olamat will say, okay, to somebody who
		
01:29:36 --> 01:29:39
			understands this strange balustach science of the spirit,
		
01:29:39 --> 01:29:40
			because it's like looking in a
		
01:29:40 --> 01:29:43
			through the the the looking glass
		
01:29:43 --> 01:29:45
			and the world of dreams, the world of
		
01:29:45 --> 01:29:46
			Laochenars,
		
01:29:46 --> 01:29:48
			is something that can't really be captured on
		
01:29:48 --> 01:29:49
			the 2 dimensional
		
01:29:50 --> 01:29:52
			pages of a book. But he writes this,
		
01:29:54 --> 01:29:54
			and
		
01:29:55 --> 01:29:56
			it's
		
01:29:56 --> 01:29:58
			still all over the place. So he bases
		
01:29:58 --> 01:29:59
			it not just on
		
01:30:00 --> 01:30:00
			hadiths
		
01:30:01 --> 01:30:02
			and Athar,
		
01:30:03 --> 01:30:05
			dream experiences of the early Muslims, and Ibn
		
01:30:05 --> 01:30:08
			Sirin in particular, time of the Salaf, the
		
01:30:08 --> 01:30:09
			great dream interpreter.
		
01:30:09 --> 01:30:11
			Of course, it comes ultimately from
		
01:30:11 --> 01:30:14
			Yusuf alaihis salam, the the validity of it,
		
01:30:14 --> 01:30:16
			but often from his own experience
		
01:30:17 --> 01:30:18
			of dreams.
		
01:30:20 --> 01:30:20
			So he has
		
01:30:22 --> 01:30:25
			dreams of Ibn Arabi. He sees himself as
		
01:30:25 --> 01:30:25
			a baby
		
01:30:26 --> 01:30:28
			suckling from Ibn Arabi, who is like a
		
01:30:28 --> 01:30:29
			mother.
		
01:30:32 --> 01:30:35
			But then, after these 7 years really austere
		
01:30:36 --> 01:30:37
			times of prayer, not seeing anybody
		
01:30:38 --> 01:30:40
			writing these masterpieces,
		
01:30:41 --> 01:30:43
			suddenly something happens and he bursts out into
		
01:30:43 --> 01:30:46
			public life again. And not just into Damascus,
		
01:30:47 --> 01:30:48
			but he then becomes,
		
01:30:49 --> 01:30:50
			early modernity's,
		
01:30:51 --> 01:30:52
			most respected
		
01:30:52 --> 01:30:55
			writer of travel literature.
		
01:30:56 --> 01:30:58
			He leaves Damascus. He's had his early journey
		
01:30:58 --> 01:31:00
			up to Edirne and those places near Bulgaria,
		
01:31:00 --> 01:31:03
			but doesn't write about that much. But he
		
01:31:03 --> 01:31:04
			produces these,
		
01:31:04 --> 01:31:07
			narratives of how he went out with some
		
01:31:07 --> 01:31:10
			friends, to travel alone, in order to see
		
01:31:10 --> 01:31:11
			God's Earth.
		
01:31:13 --> 01:31:14
			So between 16/89/1700,
		
01:31:15 --> 01:31:16
			he is basically
		
01:31:17 --> 01:31:17
			traveling,
		
01:31:18 --> 01:31:19
			and he travels
		
01:31:20 --> 01:31:22
			as a Sufi. This is a Sufi tradition
		
01:31:22 --> 01:31:22
			of Siyaha,
		
01:31:23 --> 01:31:25
			and it's organically mandated.
		
01:31:26 --> 01:31:28
			So his biographer again says, when he left
		
01:31:28 --> 01:31:29
			Damascus,
		
01:31:29 --> 01:31:31
			he did so almost without anything.
		
01:31:32 --> 01:31:34
			Together with his students and his close friends,
		
01:31:34 --> 01:31:37
			only about 7 people, he energetically traveled from
		
01:31:37 --> 01:31:39
			country to country without money or any of
		
01:31:39 --> 01:31:42
			the other necessities a traveler needs, except only
		
01:31:42 --> 01:31:44
			a coffee jug and the horses they were
		
01:31:44 --> 01:31:45
			riding.
		
01:31:45 --> 01:31:47
			De Sheikh roved with them all over Syria
		
01:31:47 --> 01:31:49
			to visit the places of the prophets and
		
01:31:49 --> 01:31:51
			saints that were there and kept journeying with
		
01:31:51 --> 01:31:54
			them until they reached Al Arish in Egypt,
		
01:31:54 --> 01:31:57
			from which he traveled by land to Cairo.
		
01:31:59 --> 01:31:59
			And
		
01:32:00 --> 01:32:02
			even though you get the impression of somebody
		
01:32:02 --> 01:32:05
			who is a bit kind of quiet and
		
01:32:05 --> 01:32:06
			maybe a bit stuffy.
		
01:32:07 --> 01:32:09
			But actually, in these travelogues, you see him
		
01:32:09 --> 01:32:11
			as being really kind of fun loving and
		
01:32:11 --> 01:32:13
			inquisitive. He wants he wants up this mountain,
		
01:32:13 --> 01:32:15
			and who lives in that village, and let's
		
01:32:15 --> 01:32:16
			meet so and so.
		
01:32:17 --> 01:32:19
			There's basically spiritual and human travelogues.
		
01:32:20 --> 01:32:22
			It's not like, say, the earlier generation of
		
01:32:22 --> 01:32:25
			Arab travel writers, ibn Jubeir and ibn Batut,
		
01:32:25 --> 01:32:27
			or where it's more kind of descriptive of
		
01:32:27 --> 01:32:28
			we went here, we went there, and this
		
01:32:28 --> 01:32:30
			is the ruler of this place. He's interested
		
01:32:30 --> 01:32:31
			in meeting
		
01:32:32 --> 01:32:32
			people.
		
01:32:35 --> 01:32:37
			So he goes to Baalbek, which is in
		
01:32:37 --> 01:32:39
			Lebanon, of course,
		
01:32:39 --> 01:32:41
			and he produces a book.
		
01:32:45 --> 01:32:47
			He goes to a lot of mazaars and
		
01:32:47 --> 01:32:48
			holy places,
		
01:32:48 --> 01:32:50
			and he spends a lot of time reflecting
		
01:32:50 --> 01:32:51
			on nature.
		
01:32:53 --> 01:32:56
			So the Sufi Siaha principle of going out
		
01:32:56 --> 01:33:00
			defenseless, as it were, to inhabit virgin nature
		
01:33:00 --> 01:33:02
			is about the Qur'anic practice of tafakkur
		
01:33:02 --> 01:33:03
			and imbibing
		
01:33:04 --> 01:33:06
			the presence of God through the vision of
		
01:33:06 --> 01:33:06
			beauty
		
01:33:07 --> 01:33:09
			in nature, but also other people. So he
		
01:33:09 --> 01:33:12
			gives some very beautiful descriptions of the landscape
		
01:33:12 --> 01:33:15
			of the Lebanese mountains and the cedars and
		
01:33:15 --> 01:33:16
			the desert.
		
01:33:16 --> 01:33:18
			But he also talks a lot about the
		
01:33:18 --> 01:33:20
			extraordinary people that he meets because as we
		
01:33:20 --> 01:33:21
			said at the beginning,
		
01:33:21 --> 01:33:24
			back then, the human spectrum was much wider.
		
01:33:24 --> 01:33:26
			He did meet a much wider range of
		
01:33:26 --> 01:33:27
			people, some of them
		
01:33:27 --> 01:33:29
			eccentric, and some of them
		
01:33:30 --> 01:33:32
			profound. He doesn't say much about Sufi lodges
		
01:33:32 --> 01:33:33
			and ceremonies,
		
01:33:33 --> 01:33:35
			unlike say, Evliyat Celebi, more or less in
		
01:33:35 --> 01:33:38
			the same period, the great Ottoman traveler who's
		
01:33:38 --> 01:33:40
			visiting Sufi Lodge after Sufi Lodge and says,
		
01:33:40 --> 01:33:42
			well, this sheikh wears a turban with a
		
01:33:42 --> 01:33:45
			little thing in it, and he's not really
		
01:33:45 --> 01:33:48
			so interested in that. He's interested in people
		
01:33:48 --> 01:33:50
			rather than the labels, I guess.
		
01:33:51 --> 01:33:53
			And he always trying to see what he
		
01:33:53 --> 01:33:56
			can learn about God and his intentions in
		
01:33:56 --> 01:33:57
			every human encounter.
		
01:33:58 --> 01:34:00
			So like Ibn Arabi, he interprets the famous
		
01:34:00 --> 01:34:02
			hadith ad Din Muamala,
		
01:34:03 --> 01:34:04
			religion is engagement.
		
01:34:06 --> 01:34:09
			Not as meaning just that religion teaches you
		
01:34:09 --> 01:34:11
			how ethically to engage with other people,
		
01:34:12 --> 01:34:13
			but rather that religion
		
01:34:14 --> 01:34:15
			comes from that engagement.
		
01:34:16 --> 01:34:17
			In other words, if you're
		
01:34:18 --> 01:34:21
			an island entire of yourself, not engaging with
		
01:34:21 --> 01:34:23
			the orders of nature and the orders of
		
01:34:23 --> 01:34:25
			other human beings, your religion is going to
		
01:34:25 --> 01:34:28
			be a rather puny thing, which seems strange
		
01:34:28 --> 01:34:30
			considering the 7 years that he's just been
		
01:34:30 --> 01:34:32
			through. But now he's in the state of
		
01:34:32 --> 01:34:35
			bast after kabd, and he's in every person
		
01:34:35 --> 01:34:36
			that he meets,
		
01:34:36 --> 01:34:38
			even Jews and Christians and Jews,
		
01:34:39 --> 01:34:41
			he's meeting all kinds of people and very
		
01:34:42 --> 01:34:42
			respectful.
		
01:34:43 --> 01:34:46
			Some of his correspondence is with a Christian
		
01:34:46 --> 01:34:48
			patriarch in in Syria, and the letters have
		
01:34:48 --> 01:34:51
			been preserved. They're kind of fraternal, respectful
		
01:34:52 --> 01:34:55
			messages. He's interested in what he can learn
		
01:34:55 --> 01:34:57
			about the divine intention in creating the uniqueness
		
01:34:57 --> 01:34:59
			of every individual soul.
		
01:35:00 --> 01:35:02
			This has to do with the Sufi idea
		
01:35:02 --> 01:35:02
			of the shahhid.
		
01:35:03 --> 01:35:06
			Every human being is a recollection of that
		
01:35:06 --> 01:35:06
			moment
		
01:35:16 --> 01:35:18
			still within each one of us that divine
		
01:35:18 --> 01:35:20
			spark that is uniquely interesting and he wants
		
01:35:20 --> 01:35:22
			to see what he can find. So this
		
01:35:22 --> 01:35:25
			Sufi principle of adab is a way of
		
01:35:25 --> 01:35:28
			drawing out from other people what God intends
		
01:35:28 --> 01:35:29
			by the creation of that person,
		
01:35:30 --> 01:35:33
			in every case. So it's a kind of
		
01:35:33 --> 01:35:34
			human,
		
01:35:34 --> 01:35:35
			travelogue
		
01:35:35 --> 01:35:37
			rather than a geographical one.
		
01:35:39 --> 01:35:41
			So he describes a lot of the
		
01:35:42 --> 01:35:44
			Awliya and Olomna. He meets the upper mountain
		
01:35:44 --> 01:35:45
			in the Lebanon.
		
01:35:45 --> 01:35:47
			He meets a Khaluati Sheikh,
		
01:35:48 --> 01:35:48
			who
		
01:35:49 --> 01:35:52
			has already mystically been informed that he's coming.
		
01:35:52 --> 01:35:54
			So a meal, a gathering is already ready,
		
01:35:54 --> 01:35:55
			even though
		
01:35:55 --> 01:35:57
			they haven't announced themselves and
		
01:35:58 --> 01:36:00
			couldn't send a a text in advance to
		
01:36:00 --> 01:36:00
			say
		
01:36:01 --> 01:36:03
			they would be there. But and after the
		
01:36:03 --> 01:36:06
			banquet, he tells him about a local
		
01:36:07 --> 01:36:09
			sheikh, a mystic who people used to go
		
01:36:09 --> 01:36:10
			to for prayers and so forth, who lived
		
01:36:10 --> 01:36:13
			on a mountain, who was able to jump,
		
01:36:13 --> 01:36:15
			he says, during his travelogue from mountain to
		
01:36:15 --> 01:36:15
			mountain.
		
01:36:16 --> 01:36:17
			He was famous for miracles,
		
01:36:18 --> 01:36:19
			but he neglected his prayers.
		
01:36:20 --> 01:36:22
			So eventually, the shaytan,
		
01:36:23 --> 01:36:23
			took
		
01:36:24 --> 01:36:26
			over him, and he ended his days as
		
01:36:26 --> 01:36:27
			a sinner and his
		
01:36:28 --> 01:36:30
			rep and as a reprobate.
		
01:36:31 --> 01:36:33
			He goes to Jerusalem as well and has
		
01:36:33 --> 01:36:35
			a very interesting poem and relationship with Akhobat
		
01:36:35 --> 01:36:36
			Asakhra,
		
01:36:37 --> 01:36:39
			the the site of the Isra'ah that becomes
		
01:36:39 --> 01:36:39
			important
		
01:36:40 --> 01:36:43
			to him. Academic discussions as well. And then
		
01:36:43 --> 01:36:44
			in 16/93,
		
01:36:44 --> 01:36:45
			his longest trip,
		
01:36:45 --> 01:36:47
			388 days,
		
01:36:47 --> 01:36:49
			which he writes about again in a book
		
01:36:49 --> 01:36:51
			called, Al Hakil kawal Majez firekhnatibileidichermi
		
01:36:53 --> 01:36:54
			wamoswal hijez.
		
01:36:55 --> 01:36:56
			He calls it interestingly,
		
01:36:57 --> 01:36:58
			truth and metaphor
		
01:36:59 --> 01:37:03
			in traveling to the lands of Syria and
		
01:37:03 --> 01:37:04
			Egypt and the Hejaz.
		
01:37:06 --> 01:37:07
			So,
		
01:37:09 --> 01:37:11
			he's traveling and engaging with his companions and
		
01:37:11 --> 01:37:13
			meeting all of these people, but he said,
		
01:37:13 --> 01:37:14
			I actually traveled alone.
		
01:37:15 --> 01:37:16
			The only one I encountered,
		
01:37:17 --> 01:37:19
			the only one I was with was Allah
		
01:37:19 --> 01:37:20
			subhanahu wa ta'ala.
		
01:37:21 --> 01:37:23
			Seeing the divine in nature, seeing the divine
		
01:37:23 --> 01:37:26
			in other people, and this exalted Maqam, and
		
01:37:26 --> 01:37:28
			he does his Hajj while he's on this
		
01:37:28 --> 01:37:28
			journey.
		
01:37:30 --> 01:37:31
			So he is
		
01:37:32 --> 01:37:35
			then back in Damascus and returns to his
		
01:37:35 --> 01:37:36
			father's professorial
		
01:37:36 --> 01:37:37
			chair at the,
		
01:37:39 --> 01:37:43
			the Umayyad Mosque, which is the place of
		
01:37:43 --> 01:37:46
			the Nablus' is opposite the the mazar of
		
01:37:48 --> 01:37:48
			Hazratihyah.
		
01:37:49 --> 01:37:52
			And in the morning, he lectures on exoteric
		
01:37:52 --> 01:37:53
			disciplines, including literature.
		
01:37:54 --> 01:37:57
			And at evening, he talks about spiritual things
		
01:37:57 --> 01:37:58
			and Barton.
		
01:37:59 --> 01:38:01
			He also starts teaching in
		
01:38:01 --> 01:38:02
			Ibn Arabi's
		
01:38:03 --> 01:38:05
			Mazar, which,
		
01:38:05 --> 01:38:08
			the Ottomans have renovated and turned into rather
		
01:38:08 --> 01:38:09
			a splendid place.
		
01:38:09 --> 01:38:10
			Sultan Selim.
		
01:38:11 --> 01:38:12
			Selim the Grim.
		
01:38:14 --> 01:38:16
			One of the most uncompromising
		
01:38:17 --> 01:38:18
			and unindulgent
		
01:38:18 --> 01:38:20
			of Ottoman sultans has come through Damascus on
		
01:38:20 --> 01:38:22
			his way to conquer
		
01:38:22 --> 01:38:23
			Egypt
		
01:38:23 --> 01:38:26
			and the Hejaz. And, of course, ibn Arabi's
		
01:38:26 --> 01:38:27
			tomb is there, and he gets a fatwa
		
01:38:27 --> 01:38:29
			from the Sheikh al Islam, chief Mufti of
		
01:38:29 --> 01:38:30
			the Ottoman Empire,
		
01:38:31 --> 01:38:33
			asking him about Ibn Arab. And he says,
		
01:38:33 --> 01:38:34
			this is one of the great men of
		
01:38:34 --> 01:38:37
			Allah, and you should renovate and restore,
		
01:38:38 --> 01:38:40
			the tomb. So when you go there today,
		
01:38:40 --> 01:38:42
			it's more or less in the form that
		
01:38:42 --> 01:38:42
			Sultan
		
01:38:43 --> 01:38:44
			Yevoz Selim
		
01:38:44 --> 01:38:46
			renovated. And if you go to
		
01:38:46 --> 01:38:48
			Selim's tomb, which is on one of the
		
01:38:48 --> 01:38:50
			seven hills of Istanbul, you can
		
01:38:50 --> 01:38:53
			see things about Ibn Arabi and the connection
		
01:38:53 --> 01:38:57
			that existed between the sultan and the saint.
		
01:39:00 --> 01:39:03
			So, Abu Ghani is teaching that and kind
		
01:39:03 --> 01:39:05
			of surprising people, because the tradition of the
		
01:39:05 --> 01:39:08
			olema is not really to talk much about
		
01:39:08 --> 01:39:09
			metaphysical, speculative,
		
01:39:09 --> 01:39:10
			difficult Sufism,
		
01:39:11 --> 01:39:14
			and particularly doctrines about the relationship between the
		
01:39:14 --> 01:39:16
			creator and the created worlds.
		
01:39:17 --> 01:39:19
			For the masses, there is the creator, there
		
01:39:19 --> 01:39:22
			is there is the creatures, the divine names
		
01:39:22 --> 01:39:23
			are the effulgence
		
01:39:24 --> 01:39:26
			of the divine creative purpose, and everything exists
		
01:39:26 --> 01:39:29
			in a fixed reality of time and space.
		
01:39:29 --> 01:39:32
			If an Arabi is looking beyond that in
		
01:39:32 --> 01:39:36
			complex ways, the olema generally disapprove of exposing
		
01:39:36 --> 01:39:37
			the, say,
		
01:39:37 --> 01:39:40
			falafel vendor on the street corner to this
		
01:39:40 --> 01:39:43
			idea of everything being just the interplay of
		
01:39:43 --> 01:39:44
			the divine qualities,
		
01:39:44 --> 01:39:46
			a fully sacred view of nature.
		
01:39:47 --> 01:39:49
			But he believes that he has authorization,
		
01:39:50 --> 01:39:52
			and he teaches it. And this becomes a
		
01:39:52 --> 01:39:55
			little bit problematic for some of the olema
		
01:39:55 --> 01:39:58
			of Damascus, that he is divulging these haqqaiq,
		
01:40:00 --> 01:40:02
			to the masses. So one of his disciples,
		
01:40:03 --> 01:40:03
			Beitamani,
		
01:40:03 --> 01:40:06
			says, a man once told me Sheikh Abdul
		
01:40:06 --> 01:40:08
			Ghani should not have disclosed those holy forms
		
01:40:08 --> 01:40:10
			of knowledge to the vulgar masses, ought not
		
01:40:10 --> 01:40:12
			to have opened the doors for the public
		
01:40:12 --> 01:40:13
			to hear his words.
		
01:40:14 --> 01:40:15
			For he is the imam of the age,
		
01:40:16 --> 01:40:18
			and the masses would follow him in matters
		
01:40:18 --> 01:40:19
			they cannot understand.
		
01:40:19 --> 01:40:21
			Because of his teaching, they might stumble into
		
01:40:21 --> 01:40:22
			forbidden
		
01:40:22 --> 01:40:23
			things.
		
01:40:25 --> 01:40:26
			So again,
		
01:40:27 --> 01:40:27
			unconventional,
		
01:40:28 --> 01:40:30
			but the way he teaches and this is
		
01:40:30 --> 01:40:32
			expanded also in his various
		
01:40:32 --> 01:40:34
			writings on Ibn Arabi and his commentaries on
		
01:40:34 --> 01:40:36
			Ibn al Farid as well, who in many
		
01:40:36 --> 01:40:37
			ways shares Ibn Arabi's
		
01:40:38 --> 01:40:38
			ontology,
		
01:40:39 --> 01:40:40
			is to,
		
01:40:41 --> 01:40:41
			diffuse
		
01:40:42 --> 01:40:43
			some of the easily misunderstood
		
01:40:44 --> 01:40:47
			aspects of Ibn Arabi's conception of being.
		
01:40:48 --> 01:40:50
			It's intricate. We don't have time to go
		
01:40:50 --> 01:40:51
			into it now.
		
01:40:52 --> 01:40:55
			But what is really important, I would say,
		
01:40:55 --> 01:40:58
			in the fusion of the austere and non
		
01:40:58 --> 01:41:02
			ritual Nakshbandi tradition of presence in every moment
		
01:41:02 --> 01:41:04
			with Ibn Arabi's ontology
		
01:41:04 --> 01:41:05
			is
		
01:41:05 --> 01:41:07
			that, after his Khallwa,
		
01:41:08 --> 01:41:10
			after his seclusion,
		
01:41:10 --> 01:41:12
			Abu Ghani comes out as an extremely
		
01:41:13 --> 01:41:16
			expansive and joyful person. And his journeys are
		
01:41:16 --> 01:41:18
			really kind of they're about the happiest
		
01:41:18 --> 01:41:19
			travel writing
		
01:41:20 --> 01:41:21
			you'll ever find,
		
01:41:22 --> 01:41:24
			unlike a lot of modern travel writers who
		
01:41:24 --> 01:41:26
			just look for things that are wrong with
		
01:41:26 --> 01:41:28
			those sculptures or complain about
		
01:41:28 --> 01:41:31
			the croissants of the hotel in Beirut or
		
01:41:31 --> 01:41:33
			whatever. And it's all very self serving. But
		
01:41:33 --> 01:41:34
			it's just a joyful,
		
01:41:35 --> 01:41:37
			thing. And this is because of his understanding
		
01:41:37 --> 01:41:40
			that the world, from a certain perspective, is
		
01:41:40 --> 01:41:42
			nothing other than the interplay of the divine
		
01:41:42 --> 01:41:42
			names.
		
01:41:43 --> 01:41:45
			And therefore, whereas on the surface of the
		
01:41:45 --> 01:41:48
			world, those incrustation of things that are fallible
		
01:41:49 --> 01:41:49
			perceptions
		
01:41:50 --> 01:41:53
			take to be things we really don't like
		
01:41:53 --> 01:41:55
			or approve of, the reality is that the
		
01:41:55 --> 01:41:57
			divine command always
		
01:41:57 --> 01:41:58
			prevails.
		
01:41:59 --> 01:42:02
			Everything is subject to the same, and
		
01:42:03 --> 01:42:04
			nothing escapes
		
01:42:04 --> 01:42:06
			the divine command and does things
		
01:42:07 --> 01:42:09
			according to some way that the divine did
		
01:42:09 --> 01:42:10
			not decree.
		
01:42:11 --> 01:42:12
			So when you look below the surface of
		
01:42:12 --> 01:42:15
			things and to the reality of things,
		
01:42:15 --> 01:42:17
			you see the Rahmah of God,
		
01:42:18 --> 01:42:19
			you see the power of God, you see
		
01:42:19 --> 01:42:21
			the presence of God.
		
01:42:22 --> 01:42:24
			It's a doctrine of imminence as well as
		
01:42:24 --> 01:42:25
			a doctrine of transcendence.
		
01:42:26 --> 01:42:26
			Yes.
		
01:42:28 --> 01:42:31
			Nothing resembles him. And Abu Ghani will be
		
01:42:31 --> 01:42:33
			the first to say Amin, of course.
		
01:42:34 --> 01:42:36
			But Allah has also said that he is
		
01:42:36 --> 01:42:37
			Qarib, near.
		
01:42:38 --> 01:42:41
			And this Korrib is expressed in everything,
		
01:42:42 --> 01:42:45
			And interest of human beings, and the interest
		
01:42:45 --> 01:42:48
			of the natural world, and your experience of
		
01:42:48 --> 01:42:50
			the mule that you're riding, and the cedars
		
01:42:50 --> 01:42:51
			of Lebanon, whatever.
		
01:42:52 --> 01:42:56
			There is the divine interaction of qualities,
		
01:42:56 --> 01:42:58
			there to be feasted upon
		
01:42:59 --> 01:43:01
			the world as banquet. So
		
01:43:01 --> 01:43:04
			from this Akbarian perspective, there's something very life
		
01:43:04 --> 01:43:04
			affirming,
		
01:43:05 --> 01:43:07
			which is why some of these modern scholars
		
01:43:07 --> 01:43:08
			think this is the birth of modern
		
01:43:08 --> 01:43:09
			Arab humanism.
		
01:43:11 --> 01:43:11
			It's
		
01:43:12 --> 01:43:15
			problematic, but it's a kind of humanistic vision,
		
01:43:15 --> 01:43:18
			but it's much higher than any secular interpretation
		
01:43:18 --> 01:43:20
			of human beings could be. Because from a
		
01:43:20 --> 01:43:21
			secular perspective,
		
01:43:22 --> 01:43:24
			we exist randomly and we end randomly and
		
01:43:24 --> 01:43:26
			there's nothing intrinsically noble.
		
01:43:26 --> 01:43:28
			But if you're following the Quranic, karannabani
		
01:43:29 --> 01:43:31
			Adam, we have ennobled the descendants of Adam.
		
01:43:33 --> 01:43:35
			You get into this idea of human beings
		
01:43:35 --> 01:43:38
			as Khalifa and really worthy of respect,
		
01:43:39 --> 01:43:41
			really possessed of intrinsic rights.
		
01:43:42 --> 01:43:44
			Rights that are not conjured up by some
		
01:43:44 --> 01:43:44
			jurisprudential
		
01:43:45 --> 01:43:45
			wishful thinking
		
01:43:46 --> 01:43:49
			and invested in the dull meaninglessness of secular
		
01:43:50 --> 01:43:52
			matter. Something that is there because God himself
		
01:43:52 --> 01:43:54
			has ennobled the descendants of Adam. And in
		
01:43:54 --> 01:43:57
			the Hanafi Matoridi tradition in particular, they talk
		
01:43:57 --> 01:43:58
			a lot about innate rights.
		
01:44:02 --> 01:44:04
			By the mere fact that you're a descendant
		
01:44:05 --> 01:44:07
			of Adam, you have certain inviolabilities.
		
01:44:08 --> 01:44:10
			These are the 5 values of the Sharia.
		
01:44:10 --> 01:44:11
			The right to life, the right to property,
		
01:44:11 --> 01:44:12
			etcetera.
		
01:44:12 --> 01:44:14
			So in this Hanafi tradition
		
01:44:15 --> 01:44:17
			And remember, he switches from the Shefei to
		
01:44:17 --> 01:44:19
			the Hanafi madhab.
		
01:44:20 --> 01:44:21
			You find this
		
01:44:21 --> 01:44:23
			It's not really a proto humanism, but it's
		
01:44:23 --> 01:44:25
			a it's a Quranic humanism,
		
01:44:26 --> 01:44:29
			that is about the nobility of the creature
		
01:44:29 --> 01:44:32
			to whom alone the angels can be legitimately
		
01:44:32 --> 01:44:33
			asked
		
01:44:34 --> 01:44:34
			to prostrate.
		
01:44:35 --> 01:44:38
			So, Ibn Arabi, looking at this, sees the
		
01:44:38 --> 01:44:40
			world as divine names. And when you see
		
01:44:40 --> 01:44:41
			the world as divine names,
		
01:44:42 --> 01:44:44
			you receive ahuwal, spiritual state that lead to
		
01:44:44 --> 01:44:46
			aishq, to love and ecstasy.
		
01:44:47 --> 01:44:48
			And this aishq,
		
01:44:49 --> 01:44:51
			this perception of the beauty of the divine
		
01:44:51 --> 01:44:52
			agency,
		
01:44:52 --> 01:44:53
			is purifying.
		
01:44:54 --> 01:44:56
			Is it the idea of ecstatic love of
		
01:44:56 --> 01:44:56
			God,
		
01:44:57 --> 01:44:58
			purifying the self,
		
01:44:59 --> 01:45:01
			and taking us away from the contemplation of
		
01:45:01 --> 01:45:03
			our own dark impulses and weaknesses.
		
01:45:05 --> 01:45:07
			And this is one reason for
		
01:45:07 --> 01:45:10
			the cultivation of the prophetic memory as as
		
01:45:10 --> 01:45:12
			an expression of beauty,
		
01:45:14 --> 01:45:16
			which is why, you know, the holy prophet
		
01:45:16 --> 01:45:18
			is the center of Muslim poetry, and all
		
01:45:18 --> 01:45:20
			of these Badi ayat focus on not
		
01:45:22 --> 01:45:23
			Haruna Rashid,
		
01:45:24 --> 01:45:26
			but on the holy prophet because
		
01:45:26 --> 01:45:27
			he is already
		
01:45:27 --> 01:45:28
			the the human,
		
01:45:29 --> 01:45:31
			mirror of of heavenly perfection.
		
01:45:32 --> 01:45:32
			So
		
01:45:33 --> 01:45:36
			by drawing out and by making visible to
		
01:45:36 --> 01:45:38
			half blind human beings the beauty of things
		
01:45:39 --> 01:45:41
			and most eminently the beauty of the holy
		
01:45:41 --> 01:45:44
			prophet in whom all of the divine names
		
01:45:44 --> 01:45:47
			are reflected in a perfectly symmetrical and appropriate
		
01:45:47 --> 01:45:49
			way. Human beings are drawn to God because
		
01:45:49 --> 01:45:52
			they realize that they've never been away from
		
01:45:52 --> 01:45:52
			God.
		
01:45:53 --> 01:45:56
			So it's really kind of an ecstatic and
		
01:45:56 --> 01:45:56
			an aesthetic
		
01:45:57 --> 01:45:57
			beauty
		
01:45:58 --> 01:45:59
			focused spirituality.
		
01:46:00 --> 01:46:00
			So
		
01:46:01 --> 01:46:03
			let's before we close, because we've gone on
		
01:46:03 --> 01:46:04
			a bit.
		
01:46:06 --> 01:46:06
			Looking at
		
01:46:09 --> 01:46:11
			one quote from Abdul Ghani.
		
01:46:20 --> 01:46:21
			Know that all things
		
01:46:22 --> 01:46:24
			are matters of great subtlety,
		
01:46:25 --> 01:46:26
			and that they are of the rank of
		
01:46:26 --> 01:46:27
			illusion,
		
01:46:27 --> 01:46:29
			or of the mirage that is seen from
		
01:46:29 --> 01:46:29
			afar,
		
01:46:30 --> 01:46:32
			and which is in fact nothing, including all
		
01:46:32 --> 01:46:35
			solid things such as rock stones, inanimate objects,
		
01:46:35 --> 01:46:35
			and trees.
		
01:46:36 --> 01:46:38
			They only appear solid through the prevailing of
		
01:46:38 --> 01:46:39
			their innate nature.
		
01:46:40 --> 01:46:42
			The vision of them exists through the discernment
		
01:46:42 --> 01:46:44
			of the intellect and sensory perception is predicated
		
01:46:45 --> 01:46:46
			on the discernment of the intellect.
		
01:46:47 --> 01:46:49
			As for their real nature, this is of
		
01:46:49 --> 01:46:52
			the rank of subtle meanings. Lataif, perceived by
		
01:46:52 --> 01:46:54
			the intellect of the discerning person,
		
01:46:55 --> 01:46:57
			in terms of their foundation on and firmness
		
01:46:57 --> 01:46:59
			in, al wudjudul haqq,
		
01:47:00 --> 01:47:01
			the absolute true
		
01:47:02 --> 01:47:02
			being.
		
01:47:04 --> 01:47:05
			And a lot of his
		
01:47:06 --> 01:47:09
			poetry is kind of focusing on nature and
		
01:47:09 --> 01:47:10
			the transcendent, translucent
		
01:47:11 --> 01:47:12
			beauty of nature,
		
01:47:14 --> 01:47:14
			as
		
01:47:15 --> 01:47:16
			a way of human
		
01:47:17 --> 01:47:18
			access to,
		
01:47:19 --> 01:47:21
			the proximity of the name. So this is
		
01:47:22 --> 01:47:24
			one of his poems. A face multiplies in
		
01:47:24 --> 01:47:27
			many mirrors and every viewer is baffled by
		
01:47:27 --> 01:47:29
			it. It's a lot easier in English than
		
01:47:29 --> 01:47:31
			in Arabic, by the way. All existence, by
		
01:47:31 --> 01:47:32
			his command,
		
01:47:32 --> 01:47:34
			are waves on the surface of water.
		
01:47:34 --> 01:47:36
			Truly, all the worlds are in their appearance
		
01:47:36 --> 01:47:39
			and disappearance, in speed and alteration, like writing
		
01:47:39 --> 01:47:40
			in the air.
		
01:47:40 --> 01:47:43
			Sun and all creation in its lights, like
		
01:47:43 --> 01:47:44
			floating dust moats.
		
01:47:45 --> 01:47:47
			So the beauty of the world
		
01:47:48 --> 01:47:51
			is a subtle thing, motif, that indicates
		
01:47:51 --> 01:47:52
			its,
		
01:47:53 --> 01:47:54
			reality, which is
		
01:47:55 --> 01:47:55
			a mirage,
		
01:47:56 --> 01:47:57
			waves on the sea,
		
01:47:58 --> 01:47:58
			flux
		
01:47:59 --> 01:47:59
			in
		
01:47:59 --> 01:48:03
			comparison with the absoluteness and the inclusiveness of
		
01:48:03 --> 01:48:04
			the divine being,
		
01:48:05 --> 01:48:07
			Outside the infinity of God,
		
01:48:07 --> 01:48:10
			by definition, there isn't room for anything.
		
01:48:10 --> 01:48:13
			So these are just modalities of being, the
		
01:48:13 --> 01:48:16
			endless flux and reflux of the operation of
		
01:48:16 --> 01:48:16
			the divine
		
01:48:17 --> 01:48:20
			nature. So nature is celebrating God and this
		
01:48:20 --> 01:48:20
			is Quranic.
		
01:48:21 --> 01:48:23
			Ibn Arabi is getting all of these things
		
01:48:23 --> 01:48:25
			from some often neglected Quranic passages.
		
01:48:26 --> 01:48:27
			All of those celebrations of nature.
		
01:48:28 --> 01:48:30
			Everything in nature praises God.
		
01:48:34 --> 01:48:35
			Everything in the world knows its way of
		
01:48:35 --> 01:48:37
			praising praising God.
		
01:48:37 --> 01:48:39
			So hear and understand or you're
		
01:48:40 --> 01:48:41
			missing something pretty beautiful.
		
01:48:43 --> 01:48:43
			Saudi says,
		
01:48:47 --> 01:48:48
			Khurram as Aanum.
		
01:48:49 --> 01:48:51
			I am happy and joyful in the world
		
01:48:52 --> 01:48:54
			because the world is happy and joyful in
		
01:48:54 --> 01:48:55
			him.
		
01:48:56 --> 01:48:58
			This is a particular Muqam of Bast that
		
01:48:58 --> 01:49:00
			you just see, the beauty and the majesty
		
01:49:00 --> 01:49:03
			and the perfection of the divine agency. So
		
01:49:03 --> 01:49:04
			how can you
		
01:49:04 --> 01:49:05
			not be joyful?
		
01:49:06 --> 01:49:07
			So,
		
01:49:08 --> 01:49:09
			in many ways, his life
		
01:49:10 --> 01:49:13
			then reflects this practice of just inclusion and
		
01:49:13 --> 01:49:14
			happiness. So,
		
01:49:15 --> 01:49:16
			he,
		
01:49:18 --> 01:49:20
			builds himself quite a
		
01:49:21 --> 01:49:23
			a nice house in Salehiya, and it's still
		
01:49:23 --> 01:49:24
			there. You can visit it, and they point
		
01:49:24 --> 01:49:26
			out the room where he used to stay.
		
01:49:27 --> 01:49:29
			But when he left the old town of
		
01:49:29 --> 01:49:29
			Damascus,
		
01:49:29 --> 01:49:31
			he made himself a kind of hut out
		
01:49:31 --> 01:49:32
			of
		
01:49:32 --> 01:49:32
			clay.
		
01:49:33 --> 01:49:34
			He lived there for a bit,
		
01:49:34 --> 01:49:37
			just as happy. And then, with his considerable
		
01:49:37 --> 01:49:40
			family wealth, he built this nice house on
		
01:49:40 --> 01:49:42
			the hill, where he lived,
		
01:49:44 --> 01:49:44
			comfortably.
		
01:49:45 --> 01:49:46
			He like used to like giving banquets.
		
01:49:47 --> 01:49:48
			He had a kind of mobile
		
01:49:49 --> 01:49:51
			pulpit made on wheels that had to be
		
01:49:51 --> 01:49:53
			taken apart and carried on the backs of
		
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			10 mules,
		
01:49:55 --> 01:49:56
			and he would go to different parts of
		
01:49:56 --> 01:49:59
			Damascus, particularly the countryside or by the river,
		
01:50:00 --> 01:50:04
			public parks, and preach and talk about poetry
		
01:50:04 --> 01:50:05
			in that public context. So he could be
		
01:50:05 --> 01:50:08
			preaching in nature rather than just in the
		
01:50:08 --> 01:50:09
			mosques and
		
01:50:09 --> 01:50:10
			known for
		
01:50:11 --> 01:50:12
			his joyful
		
01:50:12 --> 01:50:13
			demeanor.
		
01:50:16 --> 01:50:18
			And some of his poetry reflects this,
		
01:50:19 --> 01:50:22
			including some poetry, which to the rather pinched
		
01:50:22 --> 01:50:22
			modern
		
01:50:23 --> 01:50:23
			anxiety
		
01:50:24 --> 01:50:24
			focus
		
01:50:25 --> 01:50:27
			of modern Islam seems a bit scandalous.
		
01:50:28 --> 01:50:30
			And some of these fatwas as well. So
		
01:50:30 --> 01:50:32
			there's a big argument in the Ottoman Empire
		
01:50:33 --> 01:50:34
			about
		
01:50:34 --> 01:50:35
			tobacco
		
01:50:36 --> 01:50:38
			and about coffee. These are 2 new things.
		
01:50:39 --> 01:50:42
			And the sultans for a while have prohibited
		
01:50:42 --> 01:50:43
			both.
		
01:50:43 --> 01:50:45
			And there's a puritanical movement
		
01:50:46 --> 01:50:47
			led by somebody called Cardizadeh,
		
01:50:49 --> 01:50:51
			who was a disciple of Birgiri, but become
		
01:50:52 --> 01:50:54
			became really quite narrow and extreme. He said
		
01:50:54 --> 01:50:56
			these things are not sanctioned in Revelation,
		
01:50:56 --> 01:50:58
			they must be haram.
		
01:50:58 --> 01:50:59
			And,
		
01:50:59 --> 01:51:01
			Nadolsi wrote 2 fatwas
		
01:51:01 --> 01:51:03
			as Mufti of Damascus.
		
01:51:03 --> 01:51:05
			He finds time for that as well. In
		
01:51:05 --> 01:51:08
			which he says, there's no basis for prohibition
		
01:51:08 --> 01:51:10
			and the Hanafi tradition assumes that everything is
		
01:51:10 --> 01:51:13
			lawful unless definitely proven otherwise.
		
01:51:14 --> 01:51:17
			What's wrong with coffee? It doesn't intoxicate, doesn't
		
01:51:17 --> 01:51:19
			cause violence like alcohol, so there's no PS
		
01:51:19 --> 01:51:22
			there. It's fine. That really becomes the decisive
		
01:51:22 --> 01:51:26
			fatwa subsequently in the Ottoman Empire. Where would
		
01:51:26 --> 01:51:29
			the Turks be without Turkish coffee?
		
01:51:29 --> 01:51:30
			And then smoking,
		
01:51:31 --> 01:51:33
			like all good things, it comes from North
		
01:51:33 --> 01:51:34
			America and it becomes
		
01:51:35 --> 01:51:37
			popular in the Muslim world, where it becomes
		
01:51:37 --> 01:51:38
			really kind of
		
01:51:40 --> 01:51:42
			a cultivated thing, the shisha
		
01:51:42 --> 01:51:43
			and the like.
		
01:51:44 --> 01:51:47
			And some of the olema are banning tobacco
		
01:51:47 --> 01:51:50
			and he issues a fatwa saying, it's permissible.
		
01:51:51 --> 01:51:53
			Now back then, we simply weren't aware of
		
01:51:53 --> 01:51:54
			the health implications.
		
01:51:56 --> 01:51:58
			So nowadays, the fatwa, of course, has legitimately
		
01:51:58 --> 01:51:58
			changed.
		
01:51:59 --> 01:52:00
			Sheikh Shaltut, I think it was, at the
		
01:52:00 --> 01:52:02
			Al Sarraf in the 19 fifties issued
		
01:52:03 --> 01:52:04
			fatwa that said it was,
		
01:52:05 --> 01:52:06
			Makru Khara Hatahrimia,
		
01:52:06 --> 01:52:09
			almost haram, but on the basis of modern
		
01:52:09 --> 01:52:12
			medical knowledge. But Ablugani Nablusi doesn't really have
		
01:52:12 --> 01:52:14
			a problem with it. There's
		
01:52:14 --> 01:52:15
			there's no
		
01:52:15 --> 01:52:18
			Delhi that indicates that, God is against it.
		
01:52:18 --> 01:52:19
			So, avoid
		
01:52:19 --> 01:52:20
			the Cadizar Deli's
		
01:52:21 --> 01:52:25
			insistence that piety consists in making things prohibited
		
01:52:25 --> 01:52:27
			wherever you can. This is part of a
		
01:52:27 --> 01:52:28
			sickness which he
		
01:52:28 --> 01:52:29
			deplored.
		
01:52:30 --> 01:52:31
			And his battle with Alcaldesartes
		
01:52:32 --> 01:52:34
			was a well known one. And they were
		
01:52:34 --> 01:52:36
			very active, you know. They were smashing up
		
01:52:36 --> 01:52:36
			taverns
		
01:52:37 --> 01:52:38
			and,
		
01:52:39 --> 01:52:41
			demolishing Sufi lodges, and they were like kind
		
01:52:41 --> 01:52:43
			of proto Wahhabis in some way.
		
01:52:44 --> 01:52:46
			Low lower cast preachers usually, the ezan,
		
01:52:47 --> 01:52:49
			not the senior Muftis and the olamat who
		
01:52:50 --> 01:52:53
			regarded them as kind of a vulgar embarrassment.
		
01:52:53 --> 01:52:54
			But this is part of his
		
01:52:55 --> 01:52:55
			battle.
		
01:52:56 --> 01:52:59
			So he's in this state of bust and
		
01:52:59 --> 01:52:59
			he spends
		
01:53:01 --> 01:53:01
			time
		
01:53:02 --> 01:53:04
			composing poetry and sometimes in
		
01:53:04 --> 01:53:07
			kind of picnics with the olema of Damascus,
		
01:53:09 --> 01:53:11
			which are it seems exclusively
		
01:53:12 --> 01:53:13
			male only.
		
01:53:13 --> 01:53:15
			Because he follows the usual
		
01:53:15 --> 01:53:18
			austere Syrian practice. You know, something like this
		
01:53:18 --> 01:53:19
			gathering would have been quite
		
01:53:20 --> 01:53:21
			shocking to him.
		
01:53:22 --> 01:53:23
			He was not lax,
		
01:53:25 --> 01:53:28
			but simply didn't like unnecessary prohibitions.
		
01:53:28 --> 01:53:30
			So he went on a lot of these
		
01:53:30 --> 01:53:31
			picnics and
		
01:53:32 --> 01:53:34
			invited people to his house and that's where
		
01:53:34 --> 01:53:35
			a lot of his poetry originates.
		
01:53:36 --> 01:53:38
			There's 3 big collections of poetry, all of
		
01:53:38 --> 01:53:39
			which are in print, none of which are
		
01:53:39 --> 01:53:41
			in English. One is kind of literary,
		
01:53:42 --> 01:53:44
			one is mystical, and the third one is
		
01:53:44 --> 01:53:46
			kind of hedonistic.
		
01:53:47 --> 01:53:50
			It's hamrat babil, the wine of Babylon,
		
01:53:51 --> 01:53:53
			which seems like an odd kind of thing
		
01:53:53 --> 01:53:54
			to come from the pen of the Mufti
		
01:53:54 --> 01:53:57
			of Damascus, because it's kind of about the
		
01:53:57 --> 01:53:58
			beauties of nature and the beauty of women
		
01:53:58 --> 01:54:02
			and it's often he combines the 2 and
		
01:54:02 --> 01:54:03
			compares a particular
		
01:54:04 --> 01:54:07
			Syrian mountain to a Beloved shoulder or something
		
01:54:07 --> 01:54:09
			like that. And it's kind of it's not
		
01:54:09 --> 01:54:11
			where Olamat tend to go nowadays.
		
01:54:12 --> 01:54:13
			But in that world,
		
01:54:13 --> 01:54:16
			that was also part of the what the
		
01:54:16 --> 01:54:18
			Sufis would call Shahid Bazi,
		
01:54:18 --> 01:54:21
			gazing upon the beauties of the human form,
		
01:54:22 --> 01:54:24
			in order to learn about the creative
		
01:54:24 --> 01:54:26
			magnificence of the compassionate God.
		
01:54:27 --> 01:54:29
			The practice that Sufis were often
		
01:54:30 --> 01:54:32
			reprehended for. Now he's not actually got
		
01:54:33 --> 01:54:34
			girls around in these gatherings,
		
01:54:36 --> 01:54:38
			but this this literary tradition
		
01:54:38 --> 01:54:40
			means that he's one of the, sort of,
		
01:54:40 --> 01:54:43
			major amateury and erotic poets of the Arabic
		
01:54:43 --> 01:54:44
			language.
		
01:54:45 --> 01:54:46
			It's another aspect of his
		
01:54:47 --> 01:54:48
			of his,
		
01:54:48 --> 01:54:50
			identity. And he writes a book about love.
		
01:54:55 --> 01:54:56
			The utmost
		
01:54:57 --> 01:54:58
			desire in,
		
01:54:59 --> 01:55:00
			loving the
		
01:55:00 --> 01:55:02
			beloved, something like that,
		
01:55:02 --> 01:55:04
			in which he talks about
		
01:55:04 --> 01:55:08
			romantic love as being a divine gift that
		
01:55:08 --> 01:55:09
			is a prophetic
		
01:55:09 --> 01:55:12
			state that helps us to transcend
		
01:55:12 --> 01:55:13
			more earthly
		
01:55:13 --> 01:55:16
			passions, focuses us on contemplating,
		
01:55:18 --> 01:55:19
			the the the Imago Dei,
		
01:55:20 --> 01:55:21
			the
		
01:55:23 --> 01:55:25
			the presence of the sacred in another human
		
01:55:25 --> 01:55:26
			being,
		
01:55:26 --> 01:55:30
			the sacrality of of of marriage. It's an
		
01:55:30 --> 01:55:32
			interesting book. About half of it is hadith.
		
01:55:32 --> 01:55:34
			It's the kind of literature that can't really
		
01:55:34 --> 01:55:36
			exist over the border in Christianity. There's plenty
		
01:55:36 --> 01:55:38
			of rabbinical equivalents to this.
		
01:55:39 --> 01:55:39
			But,
		
01:55:39 --> 01:55:41
			Christianity with its
		
01:55:41 --> 01:55:44
			emphasis on saintly celibacy has never been able
		
01:55:44 --> 01:55:45
			to go into that space. Of course, the
		
01:55:45 --> 01:55:48
			Catholic church is now falling apart as a
		
01:55:48 --> 01:55:48
			result
		
01:55:49 --> 01:55:51
			of trying to defy something that Abul Ghani
		
01:55:51 --> 01:55:53
			would regard as a as an incredible sign
		
01:55:53 --> 01:55:54
			of the divine
		
01:55:54 --> 01:55:56
			compassion and wisdom.
		
01:55:57 --> 01:55:57
			So
		
01:55:57 --> 01:56:00
			yeah. An aesthet as well, for him beauty
		
01:56:00 --> 01:56:01
			is really
		
01:56:01 --> 01:56:01
			really
		
01:56:02 --> 01:56:05
			important, because it is, as Plato said, the
		
01:56:05 --> 01:56:06
			splendor of the truth.
		
01:56:06 --> 01:56:09
			So somebody who embraces the world in a
		
01:56:09 --> 01:56:12
			fully Sharia compliant and actually very devotional
		
01:56:13 --> 01:56:13
			to the Tahajjud
		
01:56:14 --> 01:56:15
			oriented lifestyle,
		
01:56:15 --> 01:56:17
			who loves the beauty of nature,
		
01:56:17 --> 01:56:20
			who is interested in meeting a wide variety
		
01:56:20 --> 01:56:22
			of human beings and seeing what God intends
		
01:56:22 --> 01:56:23
			by their creation.
		
01:56:25 --> 01:56:27
			The love of marriage, of
		
01:56:28 --> 01:56:28
			women,
		
01:56:28 --> 01:56:31
			it's part of the kind of classical
		
01:56:32 --> 01:56:34
			late classical flowering of Arab Islam.
		
01:56:36 --> 01:56:38
			I've given just a kind of drop from
		
01:56:38 --> 01:56:38
			the ocean,
		
01:56:39 --> 01:56:42
			but it's, I think, enough to give a
		
01:56:42 --> 01:56:43
			sense of
		
01:56:43 --> 01:56:46
			how different things were back then.
		
01:56:47 --> 01:56:48
			When
		
01:56:48 --> 01:56:51
			the great olamat considered Islam to be a
		
01:56:51 --> 01:56:52
			kind of
		
01:56:54 --> 01:56:54
			joyful
		
01:56:55 --> 01:56:57
			style of life, rather than what we often
		
01:56:58 --> 01:57:00
			hear from the preachers nowadays, which is that
		
01:57:00 --> 01:57:01
			God has created the world to catch us
		
01:57:01 --> 01:57:03
			out. The world is a minefield, and you
		
01:57:03 --> 01:57:05
			have to be really anxious.
		
01:57:05 --> 01:57:06
			Oh, that's haram. That's haram.
		
01:57:07 --> 01:57:08
			This
		
01:57:10 --> 01:57:10
			penitential
		
01:57:11 --> 01:57:12
			style of preaching
		
01:57:13 --> 01:57:15
			that is yelled at us from the minbar's
		
01:57:15 --> 01:57:17
			nowadays, particularly in some parts of the Islamic
		
01:57:17 --> 01:57:19
			Islamic world where they think the only way
		
01:57:19 --> 01:57:21
			of making people good is to tell them
		
01:57:21 --> 01:57:23
			how bad it is to be bad. And
		
01:57:23 --> 01:57:25
			everybody leaves the mosque after Jum'ah feeling.
		
01:57:27 --> 01:57:28
			I had to do it. It's like going
		
01:57:28 --> 01:57:30
			to the dentist. You have to hear the
		
01:57:30 --> 01:57:31
			chutta, but it's it was painful.
		
01:57:32 --> 01:57:33
			It was a painful one.
		
01:57:34 --> 01:57:36
			This is not his world.
		
01:57:37 --> 01:57:40
			This is the Islam of the age of
		
01:57:40 --> 01:57:41
			the empirical
		
01:57:41 --> 01:57:43
			experience of God and his compassion and his
		
01:57:43 --> 01:57:45
			justice in the world.
		
01:57:45 --> 01:57:47
			And, an experience of religion
		
01:57:48 --> 01:57:50
			and the world and God's creation as something
		
01:57:51 --> 01:57:52
			infinitely lovable.
		
01:57:53 --> 01:57:56
			So he was somebody who focused as Ibn
		
01:57:56 --> 01:57:58
			Arabi did, as the Quran does, and the
		
01:57:58 --> 01:58:00
			holy prophet who is Rahmatullil Alamin,
		
01:58:00 --> 01:58:01
			mercy to the world's
		
01:58:02 --> 01:58:05
			own mercy and forgiveness and love as being
		
01:58:05 --> 01:58:07
			the preeminent qualities of the believer,
		
01:58:07 --> 01:58:10
			rather than a penitential anxiety
		
01:58:10 --> 01:58:12
			and a policing of boundaries, which is what
		
01:58:12 --> 01:58:14
			it seems to have been reduced to for
		
01:58:14 --> 01:58:17
			most of our contemporaries. So, yes, another leader
		
01:58:17 --> 01:58:19
			even though he didn't really want
		
01:58:19 --> 01:58:20
			to lead anybody
		
01:58:21 --> 01:58:24
			and tended to prefer his own company. But,
		
01:58:24 --> 01:58:26
			when he got out and about, he was
		
01:58:26 --> 01:58:29
			somebody the quality of whose soul expressed itself
		
01:58:29 --> 01:58:30
			in,
		
01:58:31 --> 01:58:32
			not an extroversion,
		
01:58:32 --> 01:58:35
			but simply in a sheer joy of being
		
01:58:35 --> 01:58:36
			alive in God's world.
		
01:58:36 --> 01:58:37
			So may Allah
		
01:58:38 --> 01:58:41
			replace our darkness with light, replace our disunity
		
01:58:41 --> 01:58:42
			with unity,
		
01:58:42 --> 01:58:44
			replace our illusions with truth,
		
01:58:45 --> 01:58:47
			replace our focusing on the faults of others
		
01:58:47 --> 01:58:49
			with the delight in seeing what is best
		
01:58:49 --> 01:58:52
			about others, and make us people of sincerity
		
01:58:52 --> 01:58:53
			and true
		
01:58:53 --> 01:58:56
			saluk attached to the great ones of Islam
		
01:58:56 --> 01:58:58
			with reverence for their memory,
		
01:58:58 --> 01:59:00
			living and dead inshallah, that he may unite
		
01:59:00 --> 01:59:01
			us inshallah
		
01:59:02 --> 01:59:03
			in both worlds
		
01:59:03 --> 01:59:06
			in the religion of Rahmah and following the
		
01:59:06 --> 01:59:07
			way of he who was Habibullah,
		
01:59:08 --> 01:59:09
			God's beloved.
		
01:59:12 --> 01:59:13
			Cambridge Muslim College,
		
01:59:14 --> 01:59:16
			training the next generation of Muslim thinkers.