Yasir Qadhi – The Stories of The Prophets #25 – The Role of Hawwa (Eve) In the Expulsion – Quran vs Bible Pt. 13

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			Assalamualaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh for hamdulillah Haitham Al hamdu lillahi sambal
Hamdulillah. We began by praising Allah subhanho wa taala, the one and the unique, he it is alone
whom we worship, and it is his aid that we seek. He revealed the Quran to our Prophet Muhammad
sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, and he taught our them how to speak as to what follows we begin today
in sha Allah a new topic within our Stories of the Prophets within the story of our Prophet
Automattic is Salam. And today's entire lecture will be dedicated to the alleged role of our mother
Hawa May Allah azza wa jal send her sons his Latin sin I'm upon her and what hasn't been mentioned
		

			about the role of how what when it comes to this issue of disobedience, this issue of eating from
the tree, now the Quran, the Quran, is actually very, very explicit in this regard, in that our
mother how Wah is never singled out and no blame is put on her directly. Anytime the blame is put it
is put on the both of them for us was Lahoma. A shape on shaitaan whisper to the both of them for
acapella minha the both of them ate from the tree, all Rob banner of alumna and fusina. They said
both Adam and Hawa we have wronged ourselves, we'll call a Semih, Huma shaytaan deluded the both of
them Fidella Huma shaytaan caused the both of them to slip. Allah says LM and Jai Kumar didn't I
		

			stopped the both of you from eating from this tree were upper left Kuma and I said to the both of
you that you should not eat from this tree. So the Quran has no concept of how we're taking an extra
blame from them. In fact, if anything, it is the opposite because even though the default of the
Quran is to mention the both of them together, sometimes Allah azza wa jal singles out our father
Adam. Hence it is as if we get from the Quran that our father Adam has the lion's share or the
bigger share of responsibility. And the most explicit verse is of course, a little Taha while saw a
demo robber who fell over Adam disobeyed his Lord and when to stray, then Allah chose him and
		

			accepted his repentance and guided him again, it is very, very clear from the Quranic parrot
paradigm, the Quranic narrative that our family has salaam appears to have a larger share of
responsibility. And this is what many scholars have concluded as well, the great Mufasa the alarma,
even assured in his utter headed within will, he writes that the money his Salam was the one who
acted upon the West was a of Shavon and ate from the tree and how Wah ate with him, and Shavon
primarily attempted to seduce Adam, even though he wanted both Adam and how to eat because he knew
that the woman typically follows her husband and it is in the nature of a woman to follow her
		

			husband. And that is why Allah says Wow, saw them all up, but who, even though he said this is all
even I should, even to Allah says for a kala minha the both of them eight even and then Allah azza
wa jal singles out Adam and so Adam was the one who mohatta For two now He Allah He to Allah Yahoo
he was the one who disobeyed the commandment of Allah subhana wa Tada. And the both of them then ate
from the tree and Hawa followed the example of her husband, Adam Hawa followed the example of Adam.
And so when Adam ate halwa followed, and this is in accordance with what Allah says in the Quran,
all you who believe speaking to the men, protect yourselves and your families from the punishment of
		

			Allah from the fire of * and quote, and we also of course, in the famous Hadith, well known Muto
wanted Hadith that when Musa and Adam met in the Alamo Barossa Musa says to Adam, are you the one
who ate from the tree? And are you the one who exited who causes us to be expelled from Jenna and
		

			Adam does not say actually no, it wasn't me it was my wife, your mother. What? No, he doesn't say
that. He takes responsibility. And then of course, the issue of mother comes up. So the Quran and
the water, water sooner seems to indicate that our father Adam, if anybody had a greater share, now
there is one tradition, we're going to come to it. Now caught, we're going to come to so be patient,
we're going to come to the end of today or the middle of today's lecture. Contrast this with the
biblical narrative with the Old Testament and the New Testament, the role of Hawa of Eve becomes
crucial, The story centers around her, she becomes the primary culprit. In fact, it is as if Adam is
		

			a, you know, bichara miskeen. He's like a poor person who has no blame he's exonerated, and the bulk
of the curse and the bulk of the anger goes upon Hawa, this is one of the fundamental differences
between the biblical paradigm and between the Quranic paradigm, I refer you to Genesis chapter three
verses one to 16. And I'm going to read these because this is a very important section. And of
course, as we said, this is a meandering lecture Alhamdulillah, no limits and ends and I go wherever
I want to go, in terms of content and tangents and whatnot. And I wanted to contrast the story of
how we have Eve in the Bible versus the Quran, and then mentioned some things at the end. So the
		

			Bible says, Genesis chapter three, Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field
that the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, Did God actually say you shall not eat of any tree
in the garden. And the woman said to the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the
garden, but God has said, you shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the
garden, nor shall you touch it, lest you shall die. But the serpent said to the woman, You shall not
die, surely you shall not die, For God knows that when you eat of it, your eyes will be opened, and
you will be like God and knowing good and evil pause here, remember, the the Christian or the
		

			biblical notion was that the tree gave them knowledge. And the Quranic notion is that is that the
tree was alleged to give them eternal life. There's a contrast here, we mentioned about how the
church use that move on to the back to the Genesis now. So when the woman saw that the tree was good
for food, and that it was a delight for to the eyes, and that the tree was to be designed to make
one wise, she took of its fruit and ate, and she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and
he ate and quote, how many times the woman did the woman did, the woman did. shaytaan seduces the
woman, the woman is the one who begins the eating, the woman is the one who convinces her husband,
		

			the woman is the one who hands the the apple to Adam, the entire blame is on Eve. So the image of
Eve as the temptress as the seductress has been, resulted in an extremely negative stereotype
throughout most of Judeo Christian tradition. And in fact, because of this, all women were believed
to have inherited from their mother, the biblical Eve, the guilt and also the seduction, the
temptress so they're both guilty, and they're also evil because they can seduce Consequently, there
was this notion that women were all untrustworthy, they were morally inferior, they were wicked. And
in fact, quite explicitly, as we will mention, according to the Old Testament, God punished not just
		

			Eve but the daughters of Eve, God punished all women because of the sin of Eve. And he punished them
by menstruation, by pregnancy by childbearing, and by many more things, this was a punishment for
the eternal guilt of the cursed female because of what she had done to seduce her husband, Adam, it
has Salam. And we can examine and look at this motif throughout the biblical literature. The Old
Testament for example, has in the, the chapter of or in the book of Ecclesiastes chapter seven
verses 26 to 28. This this verse hear that I find more bitter than death, the woman who is a snare,
whose heart is a trap, and whose hands are chained, the man who pleases God will escape her, but the
		

			sinner she will ensnare while I was still searching, but not finding, I found one upright man
amongst 1000, but not one upright woman amongst them all, end quote. And in another part of the
Hebrew Bible, which is found in the Catholic version of the Old Testament, again, Ecclesiastes
chapter 25. No wickedness comes anywhere near the wickedness of woman sin began with a woman and
thanks to her, we must all die and quote, so the sin began
		

			With a woman, she is the one who is guilty and the entire race of mankind is cursed because of her,
because of her, we are all going to die. This is what the Old Testament says. And because of this,
in the biblical commentaries, the, the, the the Talmudic literature and the commentaries on the, the
Old Testament and the Mishnah, you find a lot of references to the negative nature of women. And you
have in the Babylonian Talmud, in the tract known as Iluvien 100, we find that Rabbi Isaac then
aadmi states, Eve was cursed with 10 curses, and then he lists them all unto women, God said that, I
will greatly multiply which refers to the drops of blood, menstruation and the drop of blood of
		

			virginity, meaning that her virginity is a mark of chastity on her. And when she loses it, according
to this track them to speaking of this tract here, that it will be a mark of basically, you know,
dishonor in some ways, if he does it in an illegitimate manner, the pain of bringing up children,
and the pain of conception, and the pain of giving birth. So he mentions three different pains here.
And he says that the verse in the Bible that you shall be that thigh desire shall be to your husband
teaches that a woman yearns for her husband, when he's about to set out on a journey, meaning that
the woman is attached to the husband more than vice versa. Again, I'm just quoting you what the
		

			rabbi says Don't, don't take this as my statements here, and that he shall rule over the teachers
that a wife solicits the husband, in order to engage not the other way around, and her hair is
wrapped up like a mortar. She is banished from the company of men, she may only be married to one
man at a time, and she is confined to house like a prison and quote, this was a quick run over of 10
curses that God gave to women. According to this ancient Rabbi that is found in the Babylonian
Talmud, the point being that the notion of woman being evil and the source of evil and a seductress
and attempt truss, it has permeated throughout much of Judeo Christian culture. And this second
		

			class notion of women, it comes from this notion of Eve, having tempted Adam and the entire legacy
of mankind begins with this. And to this day, a segment of the Jewish people in particular, the
Orthodox, they began their prayers in the mornings, they have a morning prayer. And if you are a
man, you begin by saying this, that to bless it be God, King of the universe, that Thau has not made
me a woman, bless it be God, because I'm not a woman, thank God, I'm not a woman. And the woman is
told to say that thank God for making me according to your will, simple as that it's not my fault
you made me in this manner. And another prayer that is found in many Jewish prayer books that praise
		

			be to God, he has not created me a Gentile, praise be to God he has not created me a woman, praise
be to God he has not created me a fool. So and quote, so this notion of woman being inferior. Now,
if you look at the Quran and Sunnah there is no equivalent, no man is told, thank Allah, that you're
not a woman, as if being a woman is evil. Allah says in the Quran, that he is the one who decides
who gets boys who gets girls, and he gives boys and girls to whomever he pleases. Allah criticizes
the Quran and the Quran for thinking that boys are superior to girls. So look at this whole
difference between the Quran paradigm and the biblical paradigm. And by the way, just for the, for
		

			the record, to be very clear, these Jewish prayers are only set by a segment of them the Orthodox
and *, some segments, they are not held by the conservative and the reformed, we are not trying to
paint the entire religion in this manner. But it is true to state that large groups, especially in
pre modern times of Jews, and Christians, they felt that women overall were second class to men, and
that they weren't as noble as men. And that is not our belief. I recently gave a hold book, you will
find it online gender roles in Islam, please listen to that. Men and women are equal in terms of
their nobility. Yes, they have different tasks and responsibilities, that has nothing to do with
		

			their nobility. They are equally human, and they're equally dignified, and they're equally accessing
their ways to gender. Allah did not prefer one gender over the other. But this is not the notion of
many theologians of other faith traditions, and frankly, sometimes even our own three tradition has
failed to live up to its own understanding. So the point is that the biblical Eve, the biblical
halwa, has played a far bigger role in this notion of seducing Adam and in causing the downfall and
this has given rise to a version of
		

			of gender inequality in Judaism and Christianity that we find in both among some Jewish rabbis and
amongst many church fathers, many of the Church Fathers of the New Testament of the of Christianity,
they felt that he was the cause of the fall of all humanity, and therefore, her daughters were
sinned sinners like their mother. So St. Paul, for example, who is really one of the main founders
of your life. He has founded this modern notion of Christianity for more than Jesus Christ Himself
did. St. Paul says in the New Testament, in one Timothy, chapter two verses 11 to 14, St. Paul
writes, a woman should learn in quietness and full submission, I do not permit a woman to teach, or
		

			to have authority over a man she must be silent, For Adam was for was formed first, and then Eve.
And Adam was not the one who deceived. It was the woman who was deceived, and she became a sinner
and quote, so St. Paul, the real founder of the Trinity and the concept of redemption and the
abolishment of the law. St. Paul is the one who says, Woman was the one who seduced Adam, that's
where sin begins. And she is the source of evil, another early church father, Saint Tertullian, he
says, And he writes it in one of his treatises, and he's one of the most respected of the first
generation of church fathers. Do you not know that each of you he's speaking to women, he's speaking
		

			to women? Do you know is writing to women? Do you not know that each of you are an Eve, the sentence
of God on this * of yours lives in this age, the guilt must of necessity live too. You are the
devil's gateway. You are the unsealing of the forbidden tree. You are the first desert of the Divine
Law. You are she who persuaded him whom the devil was not courageous enough to attack meaning you're
the one who seduced Adam shaytaan couldn't do it. You destroyed so easily God's image man, on
account of your desertion, even the Son of God had to die and quote, so Saint Tertullian minces, no
words about his view of the role of women, you are the devil's gateway, you are the unsealing of the
		

			forbidden tree. Shaitan couldn't attack Adam, he used you to attack Adam, this is St. Tertullian.
St. Augustine, who is without a doubt, the most famous and respected of the Church Fathers of early
Christianity, and his confessions is a an amazing testament to be honest of
		

			his own version of piety. By the way, these people
		

			there's no problem in saying that before because they were pre Islam, we leave the affair to Allah
subhanho wa taala. We don't have to say anything, you know about their fate, we leave their affair
to Allah, these people were trying to be righteous in a time when there was no prophethood of our
Prophet sallallahu it who was settled them and they inherited a corrupted version of Christianity.
And Allah Zoda talks about their fate and the last verses of Surah Telma Ada, that those who are
righteous and sincere that it is possible, Allah might forgive them. And I have read the confessions
of St. Augustine, and it is truly a very spiritual and moving book if you are studying early
		

			Christianity. And so that's why I mean, just because we disagree with this notion here and, and
whatnot, we are not saying that everything about them is necessarily evil, no doubt they had many
mistakes, and this is one of them. St. Augustine writes that what is the difference whether it is in
a wife or a mother, it is still Eve that temptress that we must be aware of in any woman, I fail to
see what use woman can be to man. If one excludes the function of bearing children, and quote
Subhanallah there is no use there's no father, women are no father except as bearers of children.
What benefits us a seductress is that temptress we must be aware of a wife or a mother or a sister
		

			doesn't matter. He's saying, What difference does it make about whether she's a sister or wife, she
is the temptress that's the one who seduced all of mankind, and then the greatest theology of
medieval Christianity. So St. Augustine is the greatest of early Christianity and St. Thomas Aquinas
is the greatest of medieval Christianity. St. Thomas Aquinas writing 1000 years after St. Augustine,
not 1000. How much 800 years after St. Augustine, St. Thomas Aquinas. He writes, that as regards the
individual nature woman is defective and misbegotten. For the active force in the male sea tends to
produce the perfection the perfect likeness of the masculine while
		

			The production of women comes from a defect in the act of force, or from material indisposition or
even from some external influence. And the same goes for so so many other Christian theologians,
including Martin Luther, the founder of Protestant Christianity, that once again the notion of Eve
being the seductress trans, up permeates throughout their writings again and again in the Jewish
missioner and Talmudic literature. And in Christian Church Fathers and theologians, women are
denigrated, because of the image of Eve, the image of the temptress, the image of the one whom even
shaitaan had to use to get to our father, Adam, as I said, the Quran could not be more different.
		

			And I really wanted to make this point in today's lecture, you you really have to appreciate and we
thank Allah, we have such a different version of this biblical story. And we should not therefore
have any problem in saying or any issue in saying that the Testament or the New Old or New
Testaments version of the story of Adam and how it has animus Sam really is a corruption of the
original story where the Quran does not lay blame to Adam at sorry, to how well at all individually,
never is that our mother Hawa single out if anything, they are both guilty equally. And if anything,
the mighty hustler takes the lion's responsibility. That is the Quranic narrative. Now, is there any
		

			other evidence to suggest that how up it has Silla might have played a role?
		

			There is, and there's two main evidences for this in our own literature. The first of them is very
easily dismissed. And this is a number of reports from early MUFA. Soon not from the prophets of
Allah Allah who was not even attributed to him from early MUFA Sirona, such as Qatada such as even
even above such as others, who are well known to take from the Israel Iliad. Now, if you go back to
one of my previous lectures, I went over in some detail the notion of early authorities taking from
Israel Ilia taking from the Judeo Christian Lord, I have just quoted you 15, not 15, maybe a dozen
quotations from the older New Testament and from rabbis and church fathers, it is very clear what
		

			the Israelis say. And perhaps the Sahaba and the tab your own had access to Israeli yet that we do
not have access to anymore because again, the compilation of Australia isn't a whole story
altogether. The point being the Quran is very clear in this regard. Israeli at is very clear, Judeo
Christian choice is very clear. Now it is it should come as no surprise that those stab your own.
And yes, even the few Sahaba who believed it to be permissible to take from the Israel yet have the
same notion found amongst them? And I will quote you perhaps the most famous narration reported
about poverty and assault and how comes Mr. That are going to be helped to shore up and others from
		

			sorry diminish obeyed from Ibn Abbas Radi Allahu Taala and that even Abbas said, No, this is my bus
saying this, but my boss is just telling his students right in a bus said when Adam ate from the
tree that he was forbidden from Allah said to him, why did you disobeyed me? Them said, how wha
seduced me. How what made it appeasing to me?
		

			So Allah said, I shall then punish her, that she shall only give birth in pain. And sorry, she shall
only carry the baby in pain and give birth in pain and bleed monthly meaning the cycle when how wha
heard this, she cried out in anger and frustration and whatnot. And Allah said to her and your lot,
your your Jani fate is going to be to constantly cry you and your daughters after you end quote.
Now, we need to be very clear here people and again May Allah protect us. Some people they're just
so ultra sensitive and not very erudite or academic or open minded. They don't understand. We
explained. Ibn Abbas Radi Allahu Allah, Allah and how can we ever be frustrated irritated him he is
		

			the greatest scholar of amongst the latest Sahaba he is a cousin of the prophets of Allah, Allah was
setting them out all the Allahu Taala and we receive love and respect him. But we have to understand
one simple point. He felt that it is completely permissible to narrate this or Aliette and this is
something everybody knows, by the way, just because some of our younger viewers who are overzealous
and wanting to consider everybody to be
		

			devia don't know this that's upon them. Every scholar of Islam who studies Tafseer knows this right?
When we point this out, there is no disrespect for even Abascal the Allah one. He had a methodology
that methodology was I'm allowed to take from Judeo Christian sources, okay. If we understand that
methodology, now we come across something that is from Ibn Abbas Rhodiola one or his students who
took from Ibn Abbas right. So you had portada you had Mujahid, you had you know, say Debian debate
and others of the next version, all of them are in the same mindset and philosophy that it is okay
to take from Judeo Christian sources. And I quoted even Khaldoun, the great Allama, the great
		

			intellectual thinker from from Underoos, who said that many of the Sahaba and Tabby rune, they felt
that the Jewish law was an encyclopedia of knowledge and the Arabs did not have any knowledge at the
before Islam. So because the Jewish people had knowledge and the Arabs had no knowledge at the time,
the first generation felt that any knowledge from the Jewish civilization would be good and
legitimate because there was nothing to contrast to right. And so they felt it to be completely
permissible and okay. And they interpreted some a hadith of the processes in this regard. And I went
over those Hadith as well had the two administrator with a heart I went over them in a previous
		

			lecture. So the fact that even ABIs says this, and it is found in the Sierra Tabari. So what we
respect and love even Abbas budget is not something we must believe in, on the contrary, because it
goes against the Quran and it appears to be in complete sync in harmony with the Bible. We should
reject such narrations as being divine or authentic. Now, did it mean i Boss said yes, he must have
said it. It doesn't mean it is from Allah subhana wa Tada. That's the key point here that the Sahaba
are allowed to hold opinions and their opinions are respected, but they're not binding on the rest
of us. And that's the point here and the same goes for so many other narrations that we find from
		

			the early scholars who took from the Islamic Ilia. So once again, if you look at this group of great
erudite, some of the Sahaba and many of the tuber Winterbottom Irun, they are quoting this notion of
Eve as the seductress Eve as the temperatures Eve as the one who told them to eat. And I say all
such narrations, we simply pointed out with utmost respect to those who said them, they are not
coming from ALLAH SubhanA wa Tada from the Quran. They are coming from Israel Iliad, and we should
not have anything to do with them, because it clashes it's not neutral. Our Prophet solicit and
basically allowed us to narrate from the many Israel when it's neutral when it has no when it
		

			doesn't go against the Quran. And I follow this methodology. And I myself will sometimes be quoting
you something from Israeli and I'll tell you this from the Israeli side, but when something from the
Israeli yet causes this type of gender tension, when it when it when it denigrates an entire gender.
And it brings about this notion of women being inferior and women being the seductress and women
being the temptress, well, then we have to put our foot down and say no, the Quran doesn't tell us
this, if anything, our father Adam is more responsible, because Allah said so when I saw the Mora
who for Hawa, so all of these reports that are found in the books of tafsir, we are they are there.
		

			We respect those who said them, but we simply say they are not a part of the tradition that we are
obliged to follow. Okay.
		

			There is though, one text that will bring about more issues, and that text is not a narrative or
even a bus. It is not attributed to Qatada or Mujahid, or say they've been Jubail? No, this text is
attributed to the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam. And it is an indirect reference to the
tempting of how what to our father Adam, and this is where we get to the notion of this this the
issue of did our mother how was tempt Adam or not from our tradition? As we explained the Koran and
the clearly mutawatir suna does not have this but there is one Hadith that is found in the authentic
books berhadiah Muslim, and it is reported by Abu Hurayrah probably Allahu Taala and that he says
		

			that the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said Lola halwa were it not for how wha no woman would
ever betray to Han her husband. And were it not for the children of Israel, no meat would ever spoil
and of Hadith. Now, this hadith is is not wise authentic, and it is reported in Behati and Muslim
which is the highest level of authenticity.
		

			But it has two facts in it.
		

			both of which have given our early commentators, much food for thought, and much cause to pause and
ruminate and pontificate and try to figure out what do these ahaadeeth mean? Were it not for how
well no woman would ever betray her husband, and we're not for the children of Israel, no meat would
ever spoil. Now, as for the notion of how up betraying her husband and whatnot, I have already
explained, I mean, I've already shown you for a meaning that this notion is clearly found in the Old
Testament and the New Testament right now, whether the process said or not, we're going to come to
this point here. As for the second phrase, were it not for the children of Israel, no meat would
		

			spoil. This is also a motif that is found in the Old Testament, the phrase that meat would not spoil
had not been for the children of Israel. It has caused a lot of discussion amongst our early
scholars, because what exactly does that mean? I mean, one interpretation is that before the time of
the children of Israel, basically, the children Israel lived it 3000 years ago, right. So if one
were to understand one interpretation of this hadith 4000 5000 10,000 years ago, meat would not
spoil if you left it outside. That is one interpretation that one may derive from this hadith. But
even our early scholars found this interpretation,
		

			not appropriate. Meat would not spoil if left out in the air, and it was the children of Israel that
caused me to spoil. And
		

			this has mentioned that Qatada and others said that the bunny is straw, he were the first to store
meat. And because they stored meat, they learned that it became rotten, meaning according to this
interpretation, it's not that meat did not spoil before bunny is thrown in. It is that nobody stored
meat, they just left it and walked away, or they didn't store it or whatever. So they didn't know
that it became rotten. And the bunny is sorry, were the first to try to preserve it and make it dry
and keep it and so they learned that it becomes rotten, and others have other interpretations, some
of which are even more far fetched than the other. But clearly, this phrase has raised a lot of
		

			eyebrows even in early scholars have been Hajin has a paragraph trying to find different, you know,
interpretations of what exactly this hadith means. And he simply narrows the number of opinions and
then moves on. But it's quite interesting to note that this same notion of meat spoiling because it
has been left out. It is exactly found in the Old Testament, in Exodus chapter 16. I quote you,
verses 14 onwards, and this is when the children of Israel were wandering in the, in the valleys and
they were wandering in the Exodus and when they were expelled and they were still wandering for 40
years.
		

			The Bible says, when the deal was gone, thin flakes like frost on the ground appeared on the desert
floor. When the Israelites started, they said to each other, what is it for they did not know what
it was, Moses said to them. It is the bread the Lord has given you to eat. This is what the Lord has
commanded every one of us to gather as much as they need. Take an Omar as a unit for each person you
have in your tent. The Israelites did as they were told, some gathers more some gathered less. And
when they measured it by the Omar the unit, the one who gathered much did not have too much. And the
one who gather little did not have too little everyone had gathered just as much as they needed a
		

			miracle happened. Then Moses said to them, no one is to keep any of it until the morning, finish it
up. You're not gonna you have to put your trust in Allah. The next morning, you'll get another batch
do not store the meat. However, some of them paid no attention to Moses. They kept a part of it
until the morning, but it was full of maggots and began to smell. So Moses was angry with them. And
then the passage goes on. This was the first time meat became rotten, became full of maggots and
began to smell because they disobeyed their Lord and they kept this men and Salwa, they kept this
meat when the Moses forbade them to keep meat. Now, it is interesting to note that this hadith in
		

			Bukhari and Muslim Narrated by Abu Huraira, the first phrase of it has held up betraying Adam, and
the second phrase has been destroyed, causing the meat to go rotten. And both of these motifs again
this is I'm just saying factually, are clearly found in the Old Testament. So the issue then comes
		

			Do we accept this narration or not? The vast majority of our scholars did. And the reason is because
this is an authentic hadith with authentic isnaad Back to Abu Huraira, the Allah one and Ebola is
saying the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said, another group of scholars from Sunni Islam,
they said that Abu Huraira or the Allahu Taala and sometimes his students mixed up. And as we said
in a previous lecture, go back to that lecture evenly among Muslim, the famous student body and the
great Adam and the great scholar of Hadith in his guitar with tummies, which is one of the books
that he wrote. He mentions that people would see that a Buddha does narrations sometimes gabble bars
		

			narrations got mixed up with them, and gabble bar was the rabbi, the son of the rabbi, the grandson
of the rabbi, his whole family was rabbis. And Gabriela bar was the senior most Rabbi convert in the
time of the Sahaba, slash baboon. And he would narrate to Abu Hurayrah our hero was his price
student, and he said famously that none of my students knows the Bible, without learning Hebrew,
then Abu Huraira, because he had narrated the Bible the Old Testament to him. So a number of
scholars have said that this hadith might actually not be a hadith, it's not from the Prophet
sallallahu alayhi wasallam. This might be from the Israel Iliad this might be from that mix up that
		

			has happened, as so many scholars pointed out that in the narrations of warriors sometimes we find
Gabbatha bottles, effects, and there is a legitimate mix of potential contamination. Now, this leads
us to a much larger topic, which it's not the the primary topic that we're doing in this series, and
this is a bit academic, but I want you to know what it is it is called mutton criticism. What is
mutton mutton is the words of the Hadith, and is not is the chain that goes to the words. So every
single Hadith has an it's not an A mutton, the it's not it's SO and SO narrated from so and so
narrative and so on. And so narrated from the sahabi narrated from the Prophet sallallahu wasallam.
		

			This chain of narrators is called an isnaad. Right at the end of the isnaad is the famous imam of
Behati Imam Muslim imam tell me the mama widowed, or any of the 500 Plus authors who wrote books and
treatises about Hadith and Sunnah, the compilers, the original compilers at the end of this net, on
the other side of the isnaad, you have the Sahaba, who inherit from the prophets of Allah, why do
you sell them between the compiler and the sahabi? This is the full is not and so this is not the
bulk of Hadith criticism, 95% of it deals with the isnaad.
		

			Is it authentic? Are the people trustworthy? Do they have good memories? Have they met one another?
Is there any defect missing link? That's 95% of it. Generally speaking, the concept of criticizing
the mutton the concept of saying okay, even if the isnaad is authentic, is the mutton also authentic
or not? Generally speaking, mainstream Sunni scholars were very, very hesitant to open this door.
Why? Because they did not want to do what the other groups did, especially their counter part, which
is the Morteza school. The two main schools of early Islam are the Morteza Li and the Sunni. And
from the mortar Zilla, you had many strands Twelver Shia Islam and sadism anabolism they took many
		

			of the notions of the Morteza and they adopted them. And you had of course, soon ism as well. So
certainly Islam, generally speaking, and we are all I am we're all belonging to Sunni Islam,
generally speaking, they did not want to open the door of mutton criticism. Why? Because the Morteza
were the exact opposite. They cared more about the mutton than they did about the is not. And they
said if it doesn't make sense, then we're not gonna accept it. But the problem comes if a hadith
doesn't make sense, according to whom, and this is where as soon as Sudanese felt very uncomfortable
with the Morteza paradigm, they said, Who are we to reject with the Prophet sallallahu it said it
		

			might have said, if he said it, we must accept it. And that's a great premise to start from because
exactly that is true. Like our workers, so they throw the Allah who won. If he said it, it must be
true. And so they generally speaking, I mean Sudanese did not want to open the door for mutton
criticism. And generally speaking, no matter how, generally speaking, whatever the mutton was, they
would accept it if the isnaad were authentic, unless they had to, and when did they have to? Well,
generally speaking, again, being very generic. This is a crash course in a very advanced aspect of
masala Hadith, which is beyond the scope of our lives.
		

			But it is important that we understand this because again, any we have to just clarify that those
people who did find this particular Hadith to be not authentic, they are applying legitimate Sunni
principles even if you disagree with their conclusion. The methodology is not more fuzzy than the
methodology is Sunni to say that this hadith seems to contradict the Quran, and it seems to
contradict other a hadith and the narrator or the narrators are known to come from a contamination
of cabinet about ie the same source we know from so many instances and from a Muslims book and what
not authentic narrations we know that Gabriela Habermas statements sometimes creeped in and so what
		

			if this was one of them? And we know this to be the case before anybody accuses or whatnot, great
scholars like him and no, we like you've been telling me like Ivanova em. They pointed out in
another nourish not this one. By the way. abou Herrera has a narration in Sahih Muslim, Abu Huraira
Rhodiola Alon has a narration in Sahih Muslim that is highly problematic for many scholars of Islam,
as I said, even in no way and even to me I don't know if they all say this is from the Australia is
not from the Prophet sallallahu sallam. And that is a narration in which it is a legit, it is legit.
That you know the Prophet SAW Selim said, Allah created the earth in six days. On Saturday, he
		

			created the mountains on Sunday, he created the oceans on Monday, he did this on Saturday. So he
lists in this narration, something that is pretty much straight out of Genesis, it's literally you
can call it you can see Genesis and this and it's very, very similar. And it goes against the Quran
and it goes against the seven days and it goes against whatnot. And so a lot of our Allama said this
hadith is not from the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. It is from the Israel Elliot's it is
from Judeo Christian sources. Now, when they say this, nobody should accuse them of rejecting our
dibela. Anything that the prophets are missing here is where we have to be again, we have to be more
		

			intellectual and academic. We have to calm down our emotions when somebody objects to a chain, or a
mutton. And they say the Prophet system did not say this and they find a weakness. This is not a
rejection of the Prophet sallallahu isn't it's a rejection of a statement being attributed to him.
And the difference between the two is the difference between a man and gopher. I repeat, the
difference between the two is the difference between a man and Cofer. If somebody says, I don't care
if the profitsystem said it, I'm not going to accept it. That is gopher. I repeat, if somebody
rejects something they know came from the mouth of the prophet system this is go for. But if a
		

			scholar says no, no, this this this hadith, which is reported in this book, I don't think it came
from the Prophet system, because of such and such a reason. And because of this, I consider to be
weak or strong liat and I don't accept it. This is not Cofer at all. You could say his wrong, you
could say his mistaken you could say he's applied wrong principles. You can disagree. But it is not
cool for to find a hadith week because of a problem in the ISNA. That's the essence of Sunni Islam,
or even a problem in the mutton if it is done properly. And I'll give you some examples so that you
understand mutton criticism. While it is rare in mainstream Sunni Islam. It is found and it is done
		

			and it is a well known chapter in the books of Muslera are the books of the sciences have Hadith?
And there are many instances for example, the Sahaba could have made an honest mistake and it is
authentically narrated, he said something and he's attributing it to the past, but his memory is
wrong. The classic example is the famous narration of a Muslim, that even abasolo The Allahu taala.
The great Eben Abbas the same Ibn Abbas said that his onto Maimunah it is his own Hala Maimunah is
his own and that the prophecies and married may Muna while he was in a haram while he was in Haram,
do you know after you know the the Umbra when you go to the Haram before exiting the Haram,
		

			according to this report have been abuzz that the prophets is a married Maimunah while he was in a
haram, the vast majority of scholars even though the isnaad is like the sun, they say even Abbas is
wrong, because the Prophet system was not in Iran, because Maimunah herself narrates that the
processing married me when he got out of Iran. So you have a narration of NFU and you have a
narration of the eyewitness and the one who actually was the one married Who are you going to accept
this is nothing criticism. Okay. You have in Sahih Muslim you know the process and he prayed the
Eclipse prayer once in his lifetime right once in his lifetime he prayed the Eclipse prayer in Sahih
		

			Muslim with authentic is nods we
		

			have multiple narrations of how he prayed multiple, mutually exclusive, contradictory narrations.
Some say he did to somebody the three ruku sunsetted, for record, and he only played it once. How
could he have done three records or two record or four records in the same record? Clearly something
is not right in some of them. And so our scholars have sifted through. And there are 50 books
written about this. But the point is, this is where mutton criticism occurs. So if somebody were to
say, if somebody were to say that yes, this hadith is in body and Muslim, and yes, the default is
that we acceptable Hadi and Muslim, but in this particular case, this narration both of its phrases,
		

			really seems to go against the rest of the texts. And the source has been known to be contaminated,
ie the reports from Gabriela bar and the circle of Cavalia bar. And therefore, the stronger position
will be that this hadith is from the Israelis to not from the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam,
then this is a valid opinion, and it has been opined by a number of especially modern authors from
within Sunni Islam. However, this is an opinion, and it is a minority opinion, there is no doubt
that the majority of opinion throughout our Islamic history has been that the hadith is from the
Prophet sallallahu it he was setting them and therefore, if that is the case, then they have
		

			interpreted and accepted it to be valid. And so even hedger comments that the betrayal of Hawa to
Adam was not a betrayal of adultery, for no wife of any prophet, even Lord and nor betrayed them in
this manner. Rather, it was the betrayal of enticing and the betrayal of encouraging her husband to
eat from the tree. And so he then says this in hedgerow saying that, because how what did this to
Adam, so to if any woman betrays her husband, it is as if she is not doing justice to her husband in
this regard. And YBNL Josie, the famous scholar, he says, As for the betrayal of hawan, to her
husband, he says, it was because she did not advise him regarding the tree. And she should have
		

			stopped him from doing so. And quote here, and Athena, he says the same thing, that the betrayal of
Hawa was that she did not advise Adam, when he ate from the tree and quote, now to gently push back.
And again, these are great aroma. And I understand, you know, when I say these types of statements,
many people they get very flustered and whatnot, and who are you? And how dare and what not, and
their responses that we all have the right after having studied to have opinions and positions, we
present these opinions, whoever wants to take them fine, whoever does not that is fine, to gently
push back. And of course, even though Josie and Thea are great giants of our tradition, but to
		

			gently push back and say, if this is considered betrayal, than all of us have betrayed everybody in
this earth, if this is Kiana, that her that How Why did not stop Adam and how what did not stop. And
so that's why we're it not for Hawa, no woman would betray her husband, right? That's a very, very
blunt statement. Did the prophecy Some say that, that women betray their husband? Because how were
betrayed Adam? Or is this a sentiment found in the Old and New Testament as I have quoted you? So
those people who say this phrase, and the other phrase meat spoiling because of the children of
Israel? These are not some things that in all likelihood, the prophets have said, then that is a
		

			valid opinion. And I would respect that opinion, and it is within the mainstream and it is applying
the principles of masala Hadith. And if somebody says, as is even hedger and on these great
scholars, and we all love and respect them that no, it is a betrayal. But it is a betrayal that Hawa
did not stop Adam and Howard did not advise Adam the way that she should have advised him. And so
that's the betrayal. And so any woman who does the same has also betrayed her husband. Okay, that is
an opinion. And we respect that opinion. And leave both of these opinions for you. And you can
decide which one you think is the more accurate one. And at the end of the day, as I said, you have
		

			therefore these two positions there. And the first position is that
		

			that this notion of how we're betraying our father Adam, and how we're seducing Adam, and how we're
telling them to eat, it is a purely business
		

			Little one found in the Old and New Testament and the Quran. Clearly, without a doubt, nobody can
say this, that the Quran, the narrative of the Quran has nothing to do the biblical narrative. And
the Quran does not place any primary blame on Hawa, there is no singling out of how we're at all.
Whereas the Old Testament blames how well, almost entirely women, woman, woman Woman has done this
almost exonerating Adam from the picture, as if you know, he has nothing to do with it. And from
that Western civilization went the way that it did. And because of that feminism do what it had to
do. Feminism is a byproduct, because because of how they treated women in medieval era, therefore,
		

			they had to make that up by going the way that they did. And every action has an equal and opposite
reaction. And so from one extreme, they go to another extreme but the point being that, if you want
to take this notion, and because of this say, this one narration that is found from the cabin, about
circle does not really tally up to the rest of the Quran, to the entirety of the Quran, and to the
other traditions of the Prophet sallallahu sallam. That's a valid opinion to hold. And if you want
to say, well, we will accept it because the majority scholars have accepted it because Bukhari and
Muslim have accepted it well, then that too, is a safe position as well that if you wish to hold it,
		

			but one should be careful to not extrapolate from this and go down the route of Western
civilization. Do not blame women for something that even if our mother had done it, it is one person
we don't believe in the original sin and that's another point of this Hadid by the way that word not
for how was the rest of women? What type of the rest of women got to do with our by the way why
should the rest of women have to do with our mother how well as Allah says in the Quran, coolness
and democracy but there are Hina and as Allah says the Quran, locally Fulani and Isla WA and Allah
says in the Quran, that is it was it was it okra and now we find the Hadith that comes from the pool
		

			of gab. And it seems to suggest all women share a trait of one mother, it actually goes against the
Quranic message brothers and sisters, let's be brutally honest here. It goes against the Quranic
message that nobody shall bear the sin of another and no one shall be held accountable because of
another. So even if our father eight, it's not my sin that I have to worry about, even if our mother
might have done something, it's not going to be cast upon women that because of that she's going to
have a painful child childhood childbirth and a painful you know, giving this in a painful
menstruation. No, this is straight from the Bible. It is not from the Quran, or from the words of
		

			the Prophet salAllahu alayhi wasallam. So anyway, to conclude, as I said, we have both of these
opinions there. And I'll leave it to you to see which one you think is the one that is more in line
with
		

			the Quran and what we know of the Sunnah of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, and in the end,
Allah azza wa jal knows best and I say very clearly and unabashedly, whatever the Prophet sallallahu
alayhi wa sallam said, and we know that he said it, it is true, anything he said, We believe in it.
But the question is, what? How do we know what he actually said in what he didn't say? And that's
where the sciences of Hadith come in. That's where we will find differences of opinion from the
beginning of time up until our times how with this we come to the conclusion of today's lecture
about the role or the alleged role of our mother Hawa, and I will see you in sha Allah next
		

			Wednesday until then, Giacomo little head said I'm Ali Rahmatullahi, wa barakato.
		

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