The negative consequences of the Sears and the mother of the incident, as well as the Prophet salallahu's teachings and the tension between leaders are discussed. The age gap between men and women is a topic of concern in Islamic culture, and the "age gap" between men and women is a concern for modern society. There is a need for people to be fair and not let hatred affect them, and advertisements for a future lecture on the topic are made.
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to smile al hamdu Lillah wa salatu salam ala rasulillah who Allah Allah He was so happy woman what
I'm about. So today's shout out to others or final lesson on our mother I shall do laquanda. And
actually, when I was looking over the material today, to be honest, I could have very easily done
one more lecture but time is limited Ramadan is coming up, and I will try to finish off.
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If not all of them others at least Gianni will try to do as many lessons as we can inshallah Tada.
Before that. So I'm actually summarizing today. And we could have easily done one more lecture
because there's so much material about our mother, I should only allow one half of them for example,
I mean, we could have gone over the entire incident of slander from our issues perspective, you
know, and that would have been half a lecture easily 45 minutes. But we have done the incident of
the slander in two or three lectures and you can listen to that all over again. And the incident of
the slander the if, is, of course, one of the most important incidents of the entire seal. And of
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course, it centers on hld Allahu Allah and Allah, his description of Arusha. The fact that Allah
revealed Koran is famous phrase, and sly Bahati, I never thought that I was so significant or any
who shot and I didn't have that shot and that Allah would reveal on about me. So she's thinking to
herself, who am I, that alone will reveal or on about me, but the fact that Allah revealed Koran,
and that Allah described her with such beautiful in a language and also this descriptions marcelin
out to the hoffy that didn't want me not, you know, the righteous, the pious, the innocent. The
believers, the how Allah describes overall Jani these descriptions of Thai, Thai, so first and
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foremost, but all other righteous women after her, they are mostly not they are protecting their
chastity, there are a lot of feel that they are innocent and oblivious, you know. So a lot of it
means you don't know you're not aware. And in the case of women, lawfully not here means they were
so innocent, their minds don't go to things that are bad. And this is a very positive characteristic
of modest ladies that their minds are so pure, they're lawful, they cannot even think of filthy
things that they will not feel when we're saying as we know, I should didn't even understand what
was being said she had no understanding that how could anybody say this and that innocence is called
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Lafayette and then of course me not, which is righteous believer, so I we cannot go over the whole
incident of the slander, but go back to that episode of the Sierra. So we're gonna go on, finish off
inshallah with other loose ends, and then finish off with the whole issue of the age of Arusha. And
go over that in a little bit of detail because to me, it is a methodological issue more than it is a
theological one. So I show the a lot one of the things about her is that she had a nickname the
professor Sam had a nickname for her. He not only gave her a kunia Omar Abdullah already mentioned
this, that the President I felt sad, I don't have a cornea. So the President said, okay, you are
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Omar Abdullah, he also had a nickname for Asia. And nicknames are things that people do to their
loved ones, they change their name and they say something that is personal between them. And this is
a sign of love, and it is well known in every culture and civilization. And the nickname of our Isha
was hilmi or our heel mejorar or in our DC cultural Humira, but home a lot with the hat. And of
course, the Elif, with the, with the with the humps, at the end, it means the little red one
homemade Ah, the only the little red one, the young red one, meaning that she she is being
described, obviously, you know, her complexion and whatnot. And this is a description of her beauty.
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And our processing would say, Oh, you little red one, yeah, homemade at all. And this name is
mentioned in a number of ahaadeeth that are still preserved for us. Obviously, as we know, the bulk
of these incidents are not preserved, and neither should they be preserved. But we have tidbits here
and there, and of them is in the sunon and isai. When the abyssinians came to practice their spears,
our Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said, Yeah, homie, you're off. Do you want to see them play?
And she said, Yes, I do another famous incident of her standing. And she said, I put my cheek next
to his cheek, and I stood there, even I didn't want to see I just wanted him to see how long that he
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is standing. And I wanted others to know how much he loved me. So the famous thing but it begins.
Yeah, homie, you're off. And there is a Hadeeth as well. In the midst of that I covered hacking,
which has caused a lot of controversy and commentary and back and forth. And I mentioned it when we
talked about it. It'll be a long one, that it is mentioned that I Lee and I shall have the law while
we're sitting in the same room with the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, and he said that a day
might come when some of his wives some of the mahat will lead an expedition, like women don't lead
expeditions and so on.
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Military which means military expedition. And so I shall left like what a woman going to lead an
expedition. And so, our Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said, Be careful or homier, or it might
well be You be careful or Humira. It might well be you. And then he turned to the law, the law one,
and he said, if you are ever in charge of her affairs, then be gentle with her. And this hadith ism
was said that a couple had Kim and there is some controversy mostly it is authentic and it seems to
be authentic and Allah knows best. So the Prophet Sal Sam is being very gentle with Ayesha, he's
using his pet name. Yeah. Oh, hello, Mayor. Ah, you might be that one. And we all know that is the
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incident of the camel, the Battle of the jungle, where Ali and I show on opposite sides. And he
basically said to God, be gentle, and treat her with the dignity she deserves. And that is exactly
what happened when the incident of the German happened. of the matters about Irish as well is that
out of all of the mother's she was the most famous for her knowledge of Islam, for her knowledge of
fifth of Hadith, even of theology, and for her narrations of Hadith out of all of the narrators of
Hadith. Isha isn't the top four narrators. She has narrated over 2200 a Hadith of the Prophet
salallahu idea he was setting them
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have them 174 armed with difficulty Bahati and Muslim and in the Muslim demon Mohammed, the famous
Muslim has, you know, four or five volumes are dedicated to Asha, she has 2311 Hadith in the Muslim,
and one of the largest Muslim Muslim is hers. And then most of them are 2311 with repetition are
narrated by her, and the fact that she is so much into knowledge and her intelligence this has shown
even in the lifetime of the Prophet salallahu idea he was seldom by her deep questions for analyses
you can see that I show was an intelligent lady. She was a very smart lady, for example, it's not
her body. The processor was reading the Koran. And he came across the verse And then he said and he
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remarked
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There's a famous Hadith that men who Siva, Ruthie, okay, whoever Allah accounts for his his sub,
whoever's hisab, is accounted for shall be punished. Okay, so if Allah does his job, you're going to
be punished. So our issue said, almost interval law doesn't Allah say in the Koran for so for you
has a seven year zero that he will have an easy herself? So she is immediately connecting this
hadith with the Quran and saying, hold on a sec. Yasuda, how do we understand this verse when you're
saying men who suffer. And so the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said that, who allowed that
ayah is just
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showing the his app, but whoever is his app is accounted for whoever has to do line by line. Let us
just say, tax season is coming up. If you are audited, you are in trouble. Okay, and if it's just
passed by then you are fine. We ask all of raffia Okay, so in this world, and in the next role, we
are more scared of the next, this world is manageable, but even then we ask Allah for alpha. So the
point is that the processor is explaining to Asia and she's saying the Quran, what you said, How do
we reconcile it and this shows her faith and her understanding as well. We learn as well that she
would ask the prophets of some questions about the Quran. For example, the process was reciting once
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from the Quran, and he recited the verse in Surah till noon, that
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will lead you to NEMA. So what kulu whom wa gelatin they give from what Allah has given them in
charity, and their hearts are trembling, they are scared even as they give sadaqa so I just said,
Who are these people on messenger of Allah that when they are giving charity, their hearts are
trembling? Are they the ones who drink wine and doing Zina? So they're scared that that's the you
know that they're doing good deeds as well. And the profitsystem said no oh doctor of acidity I've
been to so the oh no doctor over so there's no that is not the ayah rather, these are the people who
fast and they pray they are good people. And when they give charity, they are worried that their
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good deeds will not be accepted. Okay, so he is talking about a level of emotion that the the people
who are doing good deeds, and they're still trembling, and the point is that Ayesha is probing about
what is the meaning of this verse? What is this and this is showing her intelligence and that is why
later on in life, she was regularly asked questions about, about theology, about Hadith about
various understandings of Hadith. And she would be an active participant in the academic circles of
Medina, even if she never appeared in public, but from behind the veil and through her students, she
would play a very vital role and in fact, so
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habit would send messengers to her, sometimes they would come themselves and they would ask Ayesha
directly and none of the other wives had as anywhere close to that status as I should have in terms
of getting asked questions and in terms of giving tours and, and there are many, many examples that
can be given. For example, her nephew or otowa, who has a 40 later on in his life right now he's
still a minor student. Later on, he becomes the fuck to Medina. her nephew Rhoda once gave a fatwa
that whoever does hedge you don't have to do say, you've never heard this photo before because it
doesn't exist. In fact, once upon a time, Ottawa said it. Why did he say this? Because it's in the
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Koran, or that's his opinion of the Koran. Because Allah says in the Quran, Felisa alikum Jonah,
right, that no, not that not that one.
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In the Safa one model, one model what am insha Allah from an headshell beta we attend Mara, Fela
Juna, highly unusual Furby, Hema, whoever does Hajin O'Meara there is no sin. If he does say as
well. Okay, follow Jenna Holly, there's no sin. Oh, do I read the Quran, remember, has not yet been
established. People are still deriving film. And rotowire says okay, the Quran is saying there is no
sin. If you do
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throw off, which means there's no nothing off site, which means there's no sin if you
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leave it as well. It was nothing is wajib Allah saying there's no sin if you do say, so. Isha and
this is this is her nephew, saying, No, that is not the understanding of the verse is correcting,
saying no. When this first came down, the Sahaba were hesitant to do sorry, because it was a joy,
hilly practice, you know, when hedge came in, eliminated most of the rituals of jeconiah. Right,
only a few things were left you should know that much of edge. They had other rituals, other things
and Islam came in, got rid of all of that. And so the Sahaba thought maybe the site is also a part
of the pagan rituals. Also, there were two idols on safa and marwah that I mentioned before now NSF
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right, and the idols were venerated by doing site. And so some of the Sahaba felt that that is
paganism. So Allah saying, No, there is no sin on you going between Safa and Marwa that's the point
here that No, you're wrong. There's nothing wrong with doing Safa and Marwa so Ayesha corrected
odawa, because she knew the circumstances of Revelation. And once you heard a fatwa from Abdullah
Muhammad and analysis
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that Shia Abdullah would tell his wives his that whenever they had to do also, they had to untie all
of their hair. And so she said I gentlemen, What a strange footwear he is giving. Verily, I did
listen with the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam in the same container from the same container,
and all I did was I would pour water over my hair three times, okay. And we know and I've taught
this in the club with the hora all the time, that women when they're doing wholesale from Geneva,
they do not have to have their if their hairs are tied up, they do not have to untie their hair.
They don't have to take the braids out and whatever else would give the fatwa that they have to do
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that, and I should say, I know better than you. And with the processor system we do so he's seeing
me it's not as if you can accuse me I don't know what I'm doing. No, he is with me. We are doing
also from the same container and I will just pour water over my hair meaning as you know, that you
have to get the the roots the scalp, you have to get it wet and ask for the braids of hair. You
don't have to get every single hair wet when you do that, so she's explaining to Abdullah bin
Morales, and she heard a fatwa from Yvan Omar prohibiting Iran even sorry, prohibiting perfume even
before Iran. So he's basically saying before you enter Iran, make sure you don't have any perfume.
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Okay, when you're doing salsa, thought officer, whatever when you're going for Hajj, make sure you
have enough no perfume on and we all know that it is in fact so not to have perfume before a harem.
And so she heard this photo and she said I was the one who would put perfume on the Prophet so I
said I'm right before his head on and we know and if you studied the film of Hajj and Umrah with me
We went over this as well. Before you put the harem on. It is so nice to put perfume on your body.
Where do we know this is the additive Ayesha. Ayesha herself said I was the one who put perfume on
the Prophet sallallahu Sallam his body. As we said you don't put it on the garment, but you put some
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dabs of perfume on your body. Then you enter the state of your home and then in a home you do not
put perfume on your body. And she heard an opinion by one of the Sahaba that kissing breaks the
booboo and so she's the one that says the process home would kiss me while he is fasting, forget
just will do even while he's fasting, and he would not make will do. So again, all of these she's
teaching the Sahaba very important fifth copy that we all need to know these issues as well. And
once Abu hurayrah gave a lecture and Abu huraira was giving in the midst of the process of Isaiah
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Can overhear. And so he says in that lecture, a phrase that he said, this was his position that he
held for opinions that who, whoever wakes up in Geneva in Ramadan, he cannot fast that day. Okay, if
it's Ramadan, and you haven't done also before fudger Hamas you have to make up the fast later on.
Okay. So two of the students in the audience, their names are mentioned, famous stab your own. They
then went to our issues chamber, and they sought permission and they said, What is your opinion? And
she said that the Prophet says and would wake up in the state of Genova in Ramadan, and he would
then fast Ramadan. So they went back and they told Abu hurayrah then Abu huraira said, she knows
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better than me, and he stopped saying that for too long. So so many times we have a Chateau de la
hora and have basically correcting or changing or teaching the Sahaba, so much so that one of the
famous medieval scholars of Islam, but the dean Azhar Kashi, who dies in the seventh or eighth
century of the digital, he wrote a 200 page treatise entitled alegebra, famous famous the famous
dead the rocker to Asia to other Sahaba the comprehensive response regarding where and how I should
corrected the Sahaba. Okay, so this is a 200 page book about all of the narrations about Isha
teaching the Sahaba, correcting the Sahaba rectifying the Sahaba. And the knowledge of Arusha was
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well known and well admired in this regard, and many are the narrations. If I wanted to, I could
spend 10 minutes talking about what the tabloids or whatever, and I decided to just go look over all
of that and just tell you, obviously, the Sahaba themselves and the tab your own, they praise the
knowledge of our issue, we have so many quotes from her students from the other Sahaba about the
knowledge of our issue, and you can understand that that issue was difficulty. The most
knowledgeable lady really of the home of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, no lady will ever
come that had more knowledge of an athlete than her obviously because she is the mother of the
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believers, and she is the one who interacted with the processor for so long. And one of the unique
things about Arusha. In contrast to many of those others who narrated so many a Hadith, her a
Hadith, almost all of them are directly from the Prophet sallallahu sallam, Abu huraira narrated
double her quantity, but many of them came from the other Sahaba had been Abbas narrated roughly
same or a little bit more than her, but it's been a bust the bulk of his or her deal or through
other Sahaba because he's a young child, but I should not be allowed to have her ID or directly from
the Prophet sallallahu. Either he was sending him also along with her knowledge of fifth and to see
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it an athlete, athlete as well, by the way, there are issues as well that long issues, I didn't want
to go into them because time is limited. But there were actual back and forth about theological
issues about the dead hearing about the dead being punished for the actions of the living about did
the process of see a lot or not, these are theological issues, our issue plays a central role, or
narrations play a central role. And if I go into that, I'll have to spend 1520 minutes about each
one of these issues. So like I said, unfortunately, time is limited, we need to just zoom over them.
But along with her knowledge of Islam, she was actually also known for her eloquence and her poetry,
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believe it or not, there are lines of poetry that you compose that she would give lectures and some
of the lectures that she gave, especially, for example, the one that she gave in the Battle of the
camel, she gave a sermon or hold about at the end that is considered to be one of the heights of
eloquence, and it is in Arabic, obviously is very advanced Arabic. So her knowledge of Arabic as
well was something that was admired. And one of the things that many of you probably didn't know,
his show was also considered to be what we would call it an herbal doctor. So people would bring
their children, especially their sick children to her. And she was asked How did she learn this? And
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she said that in the years of the process of life, the delegations would come. And so she would,
obviously with the women's side of the delegation, and so she would learn from them about the
different cures and whatnot from other parts of Arabia. And so she then absorbed this and then she
would then be treating, you know, the kids and children, especially kids and children that would be
brought to her along with that she was Iraq, the Iraq expert, and it is well known Bukhari and
Muslim brothers. They have that, shall we do Rokia over the children. And it was her position and
madhhab that you could write Koran, and put it on the child as well. And that's the famous
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controversy between avian Massoud and Ayesha whether this and so I would actually do this that she
would write special daughters and Koran, and she would put it on the child who wrote there and she
would recite brucklier herself over the children and sick children will be brought to her and she
would treat them both from a medical point of view by medical I mean herbal medicine the way that it
was back then, and also from the to our point of view.
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After the death of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam. I should continue to live obviously in
the house in her house, and during the reign of Abu Bakar. Not much is narrated. She's also still
very young at this age. She did take care of a bucket in the final days of his life.
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Then it was probably in the time of Roma where her knowledge began to be known to the people. And
obviously she's becoming mature as well in this age and in fact, role model de la Hwan and multiple
times he sent somebody to ask a question, and then you know, acted upon that. And in the time over
Omar and Ruth man, she performed Hajj probably two or three times. And, in fact, whenever she did
perform hajj, special caravan was made for her and the other mothers who wanted to attend Hajj. And
that caravan would have a special place of camping, special timings to tow off nobody else could do.
So it was a very protected caravan, because obviously, of the status of the mothers of the
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believers. And in the time of hip hop as well, as you all know, the very final incident of Omar of
him gifting of her gifting his janazah of her gifting the place of the burial, her janazah place was
in her house. And as you know, there was one you know, famous spot left. And she said, I will give
it to you or Omar and I would not have given it to anybody else. And because of this generosity, the
process of overcoming are buried in one place and she then is buried in the back there a lot of
code. And during the fitting of earthman Ayesha was one of his most ardent supporters, she
definitely was an admirer of Earth mounted on the laquan. And when the when the death of Earth man
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took place, she was in hedge. And if you remember the story, we went over this that she did not
return because of that. So when she heard that Earth mount or the law of wind had been killed, so
from she made her way to Iraq, she did not go back to Medina. And along the way she began, she was
the first one to call for the executioners of Earth man to be dealt with. And she was very angry at
the fact that the act that the murderers were simply not rounded up and whatnot and we went over
this issue when we went over it. And of course then that caused the Battle of the camel which we
will gloss over as is our methodology, and won the battle of the camel finished and she was
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obviously on the the camel, it is also said that she was wounded some some arrow accidentally no one
would dare shoot the hodesh. But accidentally an arrow came and maybe grazed her hand or something
happened. Her hand was in fact, bloodied, and the camel was injured and the camel had sat down. And
when the battle finished, then who is going to check on Ha ha, what's going to be happening? Because
obviously her side loses many people die. And so audio the last one, he sent her brother, Mohammed
Eben, a be Becker and I went over 100 in a bucket very briefly. Mohammed is not so happy. He was
born after the death of the Prophet sallallahu sallam, he's the youngest of America's children. And
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his mother. Smart was married then to Hollywood the last one, right. And before that, she was
married to Jaffa. So she's the famous lady married to Java and then Abu Bakar. And then on to the
last one, right, that lady that had children from all three as well. Right. So all three of them
gave birth. All three of them had children from her. So they have half siblings. And so Boubacar and
Holly, they have children that are half brothers, right through a smile. And so Mohammed even
abubaker was then raised by Ali rhodiola, Juan, and he looked at him as a father figure. So Mohammed
even abubaker was on the side of it against Arusha on the other side. Okay, one of those things of
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ancient history. And so when what happened happened, I leave the lohana sent to Mohammed, to check
on Russia, and to find that issue, okay. And then when it was, you know, found out that she is okay,
then
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as what the process of them said that he treated her with the utmost dignity, and he sent his own
sons back with her all the way to Medina. And in fact, to protect her honor and dignity. He chose 40
of the noble ladies of Basra to be the entourage of Arusha, right, so she's going to be surrounded
by 40. Ladies, and then there's going to be the caravan of men protecting them headed by Hassan and
Hussein, okay after the Battle of the gentleman. And so this shows that whatever happened between
the two of them, there was there was not a level of crossing over into that which is an Islamic they
were treated with dignity and respect. And it is authentically narrated that our Isha forever
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regretted what had happened.
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Whenever she came across the verse in the Quran, walk around a few boo to stay in your houses, she
would cry, and she would say How I wish I had stayed in my house and not going out. And she would
say, I wish I had been born or created as a tree or as a stone meaning I wish I didn't have to
answer to this issue that had happened because she never
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Ever wanted blood she never wanted where I went over the story she didn't want that she was, it's
like when you when we anytime have protests, right? Sometimes the protests get violent. The goal is
not the violence. But sometimes it happens when you have an especially in this case you had, you
know, people armed on both sides and then the Neo Hata Jester there. So it was a very tricky
situation, I should never intended for actual Blood to be spilled actual war to take place. But it
turned out to be a massacre, as you know, and she felt that she shouldn't have done that, and Allah
knows best. And, and again, and you have heard me very frankly mentioned this that some people they
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try to sugarcoat this issue. The fact of the matter is, Ali and I should not be allowed on which
mine there was not the best level between the two of them. But it didn't go on Islamic. That's what
we have to be clear about. Right? You have both sides exaggerating. And exaggeration doesn't help
you have the one side trying to smooth it over saying there was nothing. And let's get real here.
There was a bloodshed. There was two armies on each side, there's going to be something and
remember, I mean, again, to be brutally honest, and I'm not sugarcoating this. Look in the end of
the day, anytime you have an in law situation, I mean, it isn't in law of the old one, right? Any
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time I mean, we are all those of us that are married is human nature, you side with your bloods over
the spouse over the other one, you know, this is human nature. There's jokes of in laws and whatnot.
This is a reality in there, right? And extended family, brothers and sisters, they're always going
to take the side of their blood over the other. And even in the incident of the slander. Remember
what Ali said on the last one, like, Look, I know nothing but good about her. But Yasuda love there
plenty of women, if there's any doubt, then choose another one. Right? I mean, he's the one saying
that because he doesn't have that level of loyalty, his loyalty is towards the provinces and more.
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So like, Look, there's plenty of ladies out there. If there's any doubt then do that. And, of
course, any that's human nature, nothing wrong with what he said as well. So the point being that
Ali and I still do love wine home, and they kept within the boundary of Islam. But it is also clear
that, you know, there wasn't the type of relationship between those two that might have been, let's
say, with, with an earth man and others of that level, and it does not want you to get along with
with everybody and to be friendly with everybody. They just didn't get along in their own way. Yet
still, when push came to shove, they remained within the boundaries of Islam. All right, he never
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once said anything bad about it. I never once said anything bad about her, and they maintain their
Islamic dignity as is to be expected. Now after the death of either Mongolia comes to power. And of
course, while we're there is much more tension. In fact, again, these are things that
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if you realize, by the way, I didn't give a biography of the loving and on purpose, and I probably
will not do that. Because if I want it to be fair academically, then I would get into trouble in
other ways. And there will be a lot one he is this a hobby, we say nothing but good. So it's best
therefore to not say too much anyway. But the point being that during the time of while we're there
was indeed tension, not just between Arusha and him but between many of the major Sahaba that was
still alive and him remember, where are we is a Sahabi. We respect him. But there is no comparison
between while we and any of the Senior Companions, he was a teenager, when he saw the Prophet
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system, there is no comparison between him and any of the senior Sahaba. But still without the
Allahu ion home. And we, you know, and we don't say anything but good. Nonetheless, while we have
tried his best to win over our Isha support, he gave many gifts to her, he sent 100,000 dead humps
to her one time, she didn't touch a penny. And within an hour, she gave everything to other people.
And he gave her multiple gifts, and he visited her in Medina as well. And, you know, she allowed him
to come inside there, obviously behind the curtain, but the conversation was tense. Let's just put
it that way. There's no you know, there. And why is that the case for many reasons of them? Is that
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more Arriola one.
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So again, we have two things happen in his lifetime that are problematic and how much is he guilty
or involved or whatnot, is history and is now fellas, this generation gone? Let's just say of the
things that happen is that the same Hamad bin abaco that we talked about, he was killed, and he was
appointed by the as the governor of Egypt. Okay. And while when it comes to power, and obviously the
governor of Egypt is not going to give his loyalty to Mongolia, so he refuses and so on army is sent
and he is captured and whatnot, and then he is executed. So obviously, how do you think he is going
to feel about that and obviously has not just him there's a long list of incidents that we just
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gloss over and it's best not to go down and unearth all of that ancient history. But I have said
this many times that those who are the whole issue of of Islamic Yani fade off the whole issue of
having a political system.
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I am not against it. I'm not for it. It requires a longer discussion. It requires a deeper
discussion. And people have misinterpreted phrases. I've said, I saw somebody misinterpret my
statement and send some very nasty messages on Facebook and whatnot. All I am saying when you
actually read Islamic history, the romanticized picture of our hayloft is simply not true. There was
good, there was bad, there was beautiful there was ugly, that's all it is. Is it better to have a
laugh or than not? Definitely, in classical Islam, that is the case. I'm not arguing against that.
But I'm saying in our times, it's a whole different scenario, an issue. All I'm saying is those
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people that are talking about the feed off of the most and wanting a philosopher, generally
speaking, they haven't read history in detail, and their utopic understanding here we have in the
time of the Sahaba, in the time of Mario de la one who was the best halifa. After the qualifier,
Raj, you don't because he was the only halifa who's also hobby, right? And still so much happened in
his lifetime. And there was tension and there was bloodshed, and and and, and so really, it's just
best to basically, you know, gloss over this for, because it does, for those of us who have, you
know,
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raises issues that are more problematic to solve than than to bring them up not there's no point
bringing them up. So this gloss over point is Ayesha and Mr. Our you're not the only one. Again,
they kept their dignity but there wasn't too much any respect between the two are one way from Iowa
to him.
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A famous Hadith and Timothy says that more Alia wrote that give me some advice and make it short.
And so I actually wrote back to Malia that I heard the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam say,
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and this is a famous Hadith is in Timothy, Mendel, tema Cirilo law, he'd be so hot in us, Colorado
law more than us, woman woman in one minute. msre one Naseby sakata law, what Colorado law
hiddenness was saramonic one simple phrase, whoever seeks the pleasure of a law and displeases the
people. A law will protect him from the people. And whoever seeks the pleasure of the people by
earning the displeasure of a law than a law will leave him to the people. Now, there is a political
message here to Mahalia as well. Okay, it's a very clear veiled threat to Huawei as well. Okay,
that, what exactly are you doing? But the point is, is you wrote back and gave them they'll see how
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you went nuts? Yeah, here's nuts. Yeah. And it is true to say more are we actually gave one Tip No,
see how that's also a big deal. Most rulers in our times, are jailing the scholars they give them
they'll see how Hey, we have while we're wanting not see her. So we have this as well, of the most
dramatic incidents in the time of why we
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didn't directly involve Ayesha but indirectly involved in voltar
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is the famous incidents actually reported in body actually the basic story is in Bahati, but the
longer stories and other books and that is one while we as governor in Medina, the famous model one
of Nell haccombe you all remember what one did but it had come the cousin of earthman the secretary
of Earth man the one there's a lot of question marks around and but by and large, we defended him
from the biggest accusations and I was quiet about the more smaller ones because again, there's no
need to go there even though marijuana is not a hobby. So we can be a little bit more clear with
him. Also about one really is the true founder of the mega dynasty because it was first and foremost
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more aware, and then yazeed and then his grandson Wow. And why we have been using them while we have
for two three months, then that lineage finishes, then Marwan who is the cousin of muawiya then
comes into power, also from the Omega dynasty, the same motor one and motor one then becomes the
father of every single halifa for the next 350 years all the way to under this, the next like 1400
years are from the descendants of Marwan all of the other nomads until the buses and then the oma
years of undos are coming from what one and they're not the descendants of muawiya so in reality
mode one is the real founder of the Omega clan and dynasty even though they're from the Omega clan,
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but as you said, we're always different because anyway, so his line finished off and then what what
one was the most powerful person who basically took over but at this stage he is a small governor at
this stage is a young younger man. This is after the death of earthman Denali he was quiet for a
while now while we have comes and Milan becomes the governor of Medina, okay, this is at that stage,
but one is the governor not the halifa. And while we a sends the message to Marwan that I have
appointed yazeed to be the halifa after me, you know, he did this in his lifetime, okay, after I die
years, it will be the halifa so every governor has to get the br for yazeed while I am still alive,
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which was a new concept, right? This has changed
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Islamic history forever. This is converting, you know the highlife Rashida into a killer from
leukemia. Okay. And that's not how long By the way, that's another point a lot. A lot of these
groups that say it is how long? No, it is not how long it is how long then how long all of Islamic
history becomes how long? It's not how long? It is against the ideal. There's no question about
that. But the ideal is impossible, and there has to anyway, so let's not get into all that because I
get into trouble when I open these political issues. panela people are so certain about their views,
they're not even willing to listen to other ideas and engage back and forth. And it becomes
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problematic. If I unless I go into a whole lecture, maybe one day I will. But in the meantime, let's
just say, I don't think it is how I'm none of the scholars that I know classical odema ever said
that it is how long to have a dynasty. It's definitely not the ideal state that you choose the best.
But that's how the world functions the world functions for most of us history via dynasty. And,
frankly, you can understand from our earliest perspective, all of this bloodshed to major civil wars
from the time of earthman. So many years, let's just get this done with let's just start a dynasty.
And there's not going to be any fitna. There was fitna, but that's a separate point, he thought he
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would eliminate the fitness diet. So he says to me one, and all the governors, you have to take the
bait from the people while they're alive. Sorry, now while they're alive, while I'm alive, you will
take the bait out for my son. This is bizarre, it's never happened before you understand. You don't
take the bait out for the next guy. You don't take the bait for the guy that's gonna come after him.
The king is still there. You take the baton for the prince. But that's what we wanted. And so mode
one gave a whole tuba in Medina, that I mean on what meaning has issued the verdict that all of us
are going to give beya for his son, he has eat issues next door and because she's in the process of
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the house, right? And the Sahaba start any they didn't like it, you know, obviously will lie it is a
sign of a man they didn't like it. What are you talking about? You're going to start a dynasty. Now.
What and so mode one fights back and goes, this is the son of a woodworker and Omar.
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What did he mean? Who can tell me who can tell me quickly who we don't have time for too much
quizzes.
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establishing some type of person after very good establishing some type of person, but it's not
because Abu Bakar didn't say when he's still alive many years before he's on his deathbed, right?
But Omar's on his deathbed, and they didn't put their son. In fact, Omar said to his son, you are
not a part of the shooter. Right? So mode one says this is the son of a walker and Omar Abdul
Rahman,
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even abubaker, the brother of Ayesha and he is so happy. This is the older brother of Mohammed, the
younger brother, and he's the full brother of Ayesha right up the ramen and I show the only two full
brothers, okay? I smell from a different mother Mohammed from a different mother. So Abdur Rahman
and Irish are very close and their full brother and sister, he stands up. And he says, No, this is
the son of heraclius and kisara.
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Now, what do you think what one is going to do? He has been insulted, and he is the governor, right?
He tells the cops going arrest. And again, these are things we don't like to think about. We don't
like this is in the process of dementia. The cyber is still alive. issues in the next room. We like
to gloss over it. We should gloss over it. You know, think too deeply about it. But this is reality.
This is politics. This is power. Right? You have publicly insulted
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the ruler via me. I can't allow this civil strife. He is thinking, right? So he tells the cops going
arrest him. Okay, so the guards stand up in the masjid. The hood was going on, and they go to arrest
Abdullah even a be darker. Where do you think Abdur Rahman will find refuge
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and the house of Asia?
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Obviously, so he rushes into the house of Arusha. Right, and Subhanallah whatever you want to say at
least those people have Iman and taqwa. These days, they'll take the moms with the bottom or
governors and ambassadors and cut them up into pieces. But those days, they had some adult and they
refuse to enter the house of at least we can say some amount is there, right? So the cops cannot
enter the house of Arusha. What do they do? Marwan goes outside the house and starts yelling to
handover up drama. He's not going to go into supanova. But he's saying hand over an issue, starts
yelling back and saying no, I'm not going to hand him over. Okay, go away from here, whatever,
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whatever that we don't know all the details. So you can understand the tense situation and scenario
between Abdul Rahman and Marwan and it is happening in the house of Arusha and Arusha is
participating in this. So mode one has to save face somehow. So he's
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Now this portion is invalid. He said, Don't worry, this man, man, he is the one whom Allah revealed
the verse in the Quran. Now this is sort of off. What the apology? Why did you fail Akuma, Atari
donnini. And so it's a long, you know, verse. It's basically a verse that talks about a very evil
man, a man who says to his father wrote to you, so he is quoting a verse. And he is saying, Who is
this verse reveal for? He is saying Abdur Rahman, okay. Why because he wants to say face, he needs
to save dignity, you know, when somebody is humiliated, they have to do something to bring their ego
back. It's human nature. Now he's been humiliated. I should is basically not allowed him to hand
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over, he's not going to send the cops and as I said, there is some amount at least Okay, so what is
he going to do go out? Don't worry, even if I don't get him a lot of xojo.
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Yeah, and he said something about him in the Koran. So from behind the curtain, Ayesha says, You are
lying. I know this verse, who it was revealed for and if I want to, to I could mention his name, but
I'm not going to cover I want to cover him up, but I know who it was revealed for and it wasn't for
my brother, Abdul Rahman. And as for you, oh, you shouldn't have done this model one. Okay. And as
for you, then I know exactly what the process of said about your father for he cursed him. So you
are a part of that curse. Marwan Abner the awesome Neville haccombe is a long story there as well,
the prophets, lots of them.
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Heck, I've never asked my wife to come Excuse me, but one of them had been a bit of a commitment of
analysis a long story. And again, these are things that we rather grow gloss over. Because
problematically in this case,
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haccombe did embrace Islam at the very end of his life,
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after the conquest of her name at the very end, and certain things happen, which are best to gloss
over and the process of exiled him to life and issues saying that your father was cursed by the
prophesy centum. And you are therefore the son of that curse. Okay. And so she is saying a factual
statement that the father was curse, but when the father was cursed
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mode one was not the object of that. So we can also say, well, that is it was it? Was it Oh, no, we
should also say this, but still Ayesha has a point like you are, you're saying something I've got I
can say something about your father. And since you are the son of your father, then you know you two
are only a part of that. So she also responded back in that regard. And she passed away in the reign
of Mao we're either in the year 57 are most likely in the year 58 Digital on the 17th of Ramadan. So
she passed away on the nights on the date and the evening of Ramadan. And because it was our mother,
so they decided to bury her at night so that it is more concealing. And so her janazah was done
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after that are we after the width of the Salah, on the 17th of Ramadan, and it was led by the senior
most Sahabi that was still alive in Medina, and that was Abu hurayrah or the LA one of O'Hara led
her janazah and then her nephews and grandnephews Abdullah Zubaydah. roadworthiness obeyed the grand
sons of Abu Bakar, and others, they all lead the janazah and carried it and they're the ones who
went into the cupboard, and they then buried eyeshadow on the lohana in both ear a lot of God. Now
we get to the, quote unquote controversial issue over the age of Isaiah.
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I've been red springs referencing this throughout the entire lectures, and now it is time to dive
into the deep end. So our issues age has been narrated by herself in the first person by multiple
chains reported in Bahati and Muslim and every single book of faith. That's the problem. It's pretty
explicit and clear. Her own nephew hishammuddin roadwatch, from his father otoa from Arusha,
Missouri from Arusha, others from Arusha, they all report the exact same thing. In the most
authentic books of Hadith with the chains that are like the sun, they are as bright as the sun.
These are called the Golden chains. They are the most authentic chains of all of Islam, and they're
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found in body and Muslim. And these bodies are found in Bukhari and Muslim that are Isha said that
the Prophet sister married me when I was six. And he began living with me I contributed marriage
when I was nine, and he passed away when I was a teen. So first person narrated by multiple to have
your own who heard directly from her, and therefore pretty straightforward. Right? On top of this
many Sahaba also reported the same thing. Even Mr. Moody reports and reported in Timothy that the
process of married is show when she was six and concentrating when she was nine and passed away. And
she was a teen This is even more true than saying the exact same thing as our right job. It narrates
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that the process of married I show when she was seven
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Six or seven, okay similar and concentrated when she was nine. Okay, basically the same thing, okay,
and on and on and on. In fact, the age of Arusha was something that was of no concern for the
entirety of Islamic history. So much so that Iijima has been narrated on this, even though generally
speaking, there's never a huge amount on historical ages and issues yet on this case. For some
reason, multiple authors have given each of them even Abdullah bottle he says, I don't know of any
difference of opinion over her age and even a catheter says there is a Gemma that the process of
married her when she is six, and then consummated. 911 Azim says the same, and I can quote you many
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more as well. Now to be clear, drama about historical facts is not the same as judgment about
theology and law. And history is not actually the, and hence somebody who disagrees and somebody who
insists that our show was martial arts about a call of the magical 18 or whatnot. And he we don't
say this is a bit of our we don't say this is wrong, we don't say you've gone against Sunni theology
history is not theology. For us, at least for the other group. It is, but for us, it's not theology.
And so from our perspective, if somebody insists, and they want to prove it in their way, we say,
Hello, is this your opinion? But and the reason why I was so interested in going Otherwise, it will
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really, it really doesn't matter that much. Remember, we talked about the age of Khadija, right? Was
she 65? You know, sorry, was she 40? or was she 28? Right? And I said, it's not a big deal. And it's
like, Okay, what, and nobody really cares about that. And I just preferred one that it makes sense,
she was 20. But if somebody insists she was 40 as a house, okay, no big deal. In this case, we will
say even if there's no precedents, if you want to insist that I wish I was 18. And what can I say is
good for you, it's not something that you're going to make somebody you know, erratic over or
something like that. But here is my personal problem with this issue. And that is that wanting to
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change the age of Ayesha represents a frame of mind, a methodology, a paradigm that once we open
this door, once we go down this path, then we will be forced to use the same path or the same
paradigm for other issues as well. And for me, personally, that paradigm is really one. I'm trying
to be respectful, because some of my own colleagues and friends are arguing this, some of the people
I know are writing papers about this. With my utmost respect, from my opinion, this represents a
somewhat defeatist methodology. Because obviously, understandably, let's be brutally honest, here,
the age of inertia, or the law, one is something that modern sensibilities are going to find
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problematic. Six years old, and even if you say a good contribution occurs at nine, and our profit
system is in his early 50s. Okay, it's something that it is a typical in our times, in fact, it
would be illegal in most countries in our times. And it is this issue that has caused those who hate
Islam, to use very derogatory language. And I don't like to even mention this term or whatnot. But
because we are talking about this, and I hope you forgive me, I'm simply narrating what they say
accusations of * are made. And as Muslims, we are now forced to then respond, what do we do
to this response? understandably, I want to defend, you want to defend, we all want to defend. One
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of the ways that one groups of scholars have attempted to defend it is simply to reinvent the age,
go back and say call us the snap our fingers and Bismillah. magically, she becomes 18. We don't have
to worry about this charge. Okay. And this is, overall, this is something that is called historical
revisionism. And what this is, is you go back and you revise history, something that was well known,
something that is almost agreed upon, and some later researcher comes and says, oh, everybody was
wrong. This was the real way it was done. And many times historical revisionism is correct. Many
times, it's interesting many times, it's give and take, and many times is complete. baloney, or
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whatever you want to call it, okay? Just because it's revisionist doesn't make it right. Just
because it's exciting and different, doesn't make it right. But it is a theme that people especially
in our times, they love to do, they want to do historical revisionism. But in doing so, we have to
be careful because sometimes when we find something problematic,
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it's shows more about us than about the text.
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It shows about our prejudices more than it does about the text itself. And even those who are
finding this problematic, some of them are mature enough to recognize this, and I'll quote somebody
who is
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a very famous
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figure of both progressive Islam and Islamic feminism what Islamic feminism, Dr. Keyshia Lee. She
writes in her book such sexual ethics in Islam, and she is one of the main leaders of both the
progressive movement and of Islamic feminism in our times, she writes Muslims, Muslim discussions of
the prophets personal conduct in general and his mind marriage to Ayesha, in particular, provide a
lens through which to view changed attitudes towards * and marriage. And unresolved concerns about
the appropriateness of applying medieval standards in modern life. there are dangers in both
historical anachronism, and unchecked more relativism. That's all academics, they love fancy words,
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she's saying it's a two way street. That in the one hand, it is dangerous to say that she is saying
this. I'm not saying this, that whatever the Profit System did, is always more what they collect,
correct and can be done throughout all history. That's what she's saying. On the other hand, it is
also dangerous to read in our prejudices back into history. Okay, so from her perspective, both are
dangerous. I will disagree with the first issue, and I'll explain why, and then we'll get to that.
So the point is, she is saying that several questions emerge about this whole incident that she goes
on her way. And we need to be very clear here, that before we criticize anything from the past, let
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us contextualize the past itself, and let us contextualize the present and our own prejudices. Young
marriages were the norm around the globe, not just in Arabia. This was the way it was throughout
human history, up until recent times, especially especially marriages of famous people, daughters of
King's Daughters of nobility, were regularly married off at a very young age, their marriages were
decided without their consent. Absolutely. This is well known. And they were married off at a very
young age, for political reasons, not for love. Not for anything, it was for political reasons. And
most of the time, these marriages were meant to actually ratify treaties between two entities or two
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families or whatnot, sometimes to build peace between two warring countries. The most famous perhaps
marriage in all of human history, was the marriage of Ferdinand of Aragon and Isabella of Castile.
Aragon and Castile were to World War two warring kingdoms of Spain, and they were fighting each
other. And that's why the Muslims managed to live hundreds of years, right? Well, Ferdinand and
Isabella got married, what happened? Those two kingdoms merge, because now they're both rulers are
there now that they merged, they then turn their attention to Abdullah, the last Emir of Grenada,
and onslaught began until finally, so that's a political marriage, right? Who cares about love, who
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cares about anything, nothing to do with that, it's a matter of getting the two together. Now, these
two are these the concept of political marriages, the concept of young marriages, this was the norm
in that timeframe. And life expectancy as well was much smaller. puberty began at an earlier age,
norms were different. And that is why in the lifetime of the prophets, or sort of even the worst
enemies of Islam did not find this issue problematic. This is a modern issue. Only 30 years ago, 40
years ago at Knox, the first time this was found problematic, ironically, even authors that were
writing about the process of 200 years ago in western worlds didn't really find this that
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problematic, because even 200 years ago, young girls were married regularly at that age. And that is
why generally speaking, those who accuse the process of this heinous crime, those who use this type
of slur, generally speaking, they are not educated, meaning academically, that's what I mean, they
might have a high school degree, they haven't studied history, they haven't read, because anybody
who does understands that the age of marriage is very, very fluid. It's very, you know, changing
throughout history. And if you look at any things, and again, I could have gone much more detailed
this can easily be given a whole lecture, but I just wanted to clarify that this is the only time
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I'll probably be speaking about this in so much detail. But I just wanted to mention some facts here
that one of the first times the Western world tried to regulate the age of marriage occurred during
the time of Caesar Augustus, and he ruled but he never enforced that girl should be 10 years old
when there would be 10 years old. That was the law, you know, 1000 whatever, years ago to whatever
2000 whatever it was to Caesar Augustus 10 years old, I should they say she was nine, okay, this is
and this is before that time and a generation away on a continent away as well in medieval Europe.
gration the cleric is one of the famous founders have what is called the canon law, the Catholics
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had their shitty is called canon law, by the way, and this canon law was solidified in the 12th
century. And he writes in his canon law that
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The traditional age of puberty between 12 and 14, he writes, should be the meaningful age of consent
for marriage. But he acknowledged that consent can occur even before this age. So he's essentially
saying that the norm is around 12 to 14, and he's writing 900 years ago. Okay, that is the norm.
When Shakespeare wrote his Romeo and Juliet, this is 500 years ago, the actress that played Juliet
was 13, or at times 14 years old, okay. 13 year old, that was the So, and Shakespeare is only 500
years. It's not like 2000 years 1005 Shakespeare in England, the actress that is playing Juliet is
13. Why? Because biologically and intellectually 13 year old 500 years ago, is like a 17 year old of
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our time, let's say, okay, like, you know, the age where in our culture, you know, there's
passionate love is like, 1817, right, the first love in our culture 500 years ago, Romeo is 14 and
Juliet is 13. What does that show you? This is just 500 that things change from time to time. And
France as well. It has a code a code called the Napoleonic code, the Napoleonic code, it considered
and this is only 200 years old, it considered 13 as the age of consent, consent not to marriage, can
you understand consent? Would they have their law for consent, right? At the age of 13, a girl can
consent, you understand, I don't want to be too explicit. Consent is not married, you can get
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married earlier than that. But 13 is the age of consent in that in that code. And we have hundreds
of court records from England 15 1617 century and even in colonial America, 1617, pre colonial
America century where because of the court records, we have the age of the bride, and the bride is
very commonly 10 1112. There's a famous case in Massachusetts, where a 10 year old girl is suing her
husband for divorce, she wants to divorce at the age of 10. And it's a famous case because of abuse
and whatnot, your physical abuse. So she won the case. She's suing for divorce at the age of 10.
What he got married, I don't even know, this is in Massachusetts, in a pre colonial America 300
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years ago, the point being that, for us to find that age problematic, it shows more about our
culture than it does about theirs. Okay. And it's really a sign of our own ignorance. When we say
oh, my God, she was nine Well, so what? Yes, she was, how is that problematic? It was the norm back
then. And nobody found it problematic back then. And I've mentioned many times in my own lectures,
just to be personal here, that when I was a teenager, I found out my grandmother got married at the
age of 1314. And I was shocked at that my own grandmother, I know many of you, your mothers or
grandmothers were the exact same, right? That's the reality back then. And I couldn't believe my own
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grandmother, who I'm talking to in front of me. And she's at that stage, 7580 years old, and she got
married at 13. I was like, how could you get married? And I when I was 17? At the time, it's like,
are you getting married at 13? How's that possible? And she's like, Betty, and all of us got married
at that age, you know, back then, you know, that was the norm. This is literally two generations
ago, my grandmother's age, and that was the norm back there at the age of 13. So given the cultural
changes, puberty, historically proven that the age of puberty is going up, and the last documented
years, it's already gone up six years or five years. Okay. So puberty is going up intellectual
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maturity, we all know that our kids of our age, are being put in this bubble of adolescence, we all
know this, that they're being, you know, cushioned from the real world much longer than they need
to. So biologically, intellectually, every factor talks about early marriage. And so what if the
Prophet says married at the age of nine? I don't see any problem with this whatsoever. It's not a
moral issue. And I want to be clear here, I am not against historical revisionism, I don't mind if
there's a reason to do that. If there's strong, compelling evidence on the one side, that just
doesn't make sense. And we have to go back to our tradition and rethink through things, then no big
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deal. If it is, it is, but in this case, I really am with my utmost respect dismissive of the entire
procedure. Because, in my humble opinion, it simply shows that there's a lack of understanding of
culture of human Moore's of * and sexuality. And because of this, there's this feeling we need to
defend in an incorrect manner. And if you're going to cast doubt, on the most authentic ahaadeeth
with the most authentic chains, you had better have a very strong reason than just to say it's
politically incorrect in 2019. America had so much more stronger reason than that, and I'm sorry, I
don't buy it. Nonetheless, with all of that big disclaimer. Now we jump in. What are some of the
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evidences that is used by the other side and perhaps the most authoritative
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article that has been written on this issue is by modern scholars. And although this is modern,
nobody before our generation found this problematic nobody, not a single human being in 14 centuries
of Islam found this age problematic until our generation, literally our generation, one generation
that we are in now. And one of the
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most academic authors because most of those who reject are they're not academic, they're just
emotional. Oh, how could he have done this? He's not meant to know how to mean it's not possible.
Any whatever your version of Islam is, it has to come from the text. But so one of the most academic
articles that I found was by a modern Syrian scholar graduate of Shetty, oz, it is a chef and I will
not at all diminish his knowledge from this and his name is Chef, Salahuddin it Libby,
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Libby, Salahuddin Libby. And he has a very detailed article that has been translated to English as
well. And you can find this online the English translation and he has used what is called source
criticism, what is called context contextual historical methods which is valid I don't have any
problem with his the way that he does this. So I don't fault him for his methodology. And I
appreciate his academic.
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You know, he had I just respectfully disagree. And I'll summarize some of his points over here and
then I'll refute them so in my own words, so he has his you can read that but I'm going to summarize
them for the sake of time in my own words in order.
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So for me his strongest evidence and the most explicit is the comparison of atisha with a Smith h S
model of the law, why not? And it goes as follows it has been narrated that a SMA was 10 years older
than Asia fact a or sorry, not fact a opinion a opinion a smart is 10 years older than our issue.
Fact to be a smart died in the year 73 hijra. And fact see a smart was 100 years old at the time you
following okay? So put opinion a fact B and fact c altogether. And from this if you do the math, so
to be very simplistic, so 7300 asthma is 100. This means I should would have been 90 had she been
alive. So 90 and 73 means in the history She is 13 years old. Okay, means the marriage takes place
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at 14. Okay, so you kind of push it up a little bit to there. Okay, by the way, you don't get 18
with this one and that's another point of renumeration gives you different numbers if you do this.
Okay. So you get basically around Jani.
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Sorry, you're right in this Sorry, my bad, my bad scrapped that the 14 numbers coming from the next
narration Sorry, my bad. You're right. So she's 93. So she's sorry, in 73, she is 100. So I would
have been 90 in 73. Right. And so 90 minus 73 is 17. So she would have been 18. This is where we get
the 18 from Sorry, my bad scrap that the 14 number is coming from another narration. And that's one
of my points, different narrations give you different numbers, because they're all kind of sort of
vague in this regard. So from opinion, a or a why a and fact B and facce, we can derive that I show
was 18. Okay, that's one evidence. The second evidence I'm going to mention evidence as quickly
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then.
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And he explained them. And I'm going to mention some of his he has, he wrote the article. And then
people gave him a lot of flack and a lot of support. So then he revised the article, and then people
gave him some more. So then he wrote his three revisions. So every time he's adding more and more
points, so it's still there online is online in Arabic, and English, as well summarize as you can
read the English as well. So I'm just taking five of his main points or six of his main points. The
second there's an Ethan Bahati suit of armor was revealed. I was saying, while I was in Makkah, and
I was a young girl, God attend a lab. I was a young girl playing. Okay, and so from this if I were a
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young girl playing, and sort of Ahmed is revealed in Makkah, so then Jani, she must be older than
456, you know, and the Hegelian takes place. So that's basically a derivation that the fact that
she's Giardia, a lab, the connotation being that she's a playful young girl, so she's not going to
be to 30 years old. Okay, so that's the second point. The third is a lot of snippets and rewired
where our Isha is mentioning things about Makkah.
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And he was mentioning things about Jackie Lee. And he was mentioning For example, She mentioned Abu
Bakar his journey to have a shot in half in Morocco not not journey, I will attempt to migrate,
right? It's famous Hadith in Bukhari narrated by
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That will bucket one to make the hedgerow to Abyssinia, right? And he packed his bags and then in a
dozen are heard and he got involved. No, no you have to stay. So I was narrating. And if our show
we're two years old she wouldn't remember this. And so she must have been older when all of this is
taking place. So that's number three we can say all of the various snippets where I was bringing up
the past about about MK number four of poverty. In his study, he mentions that a worker married
cotulla, the mother of a smart Angelica and a middle man married in jaha. Leah as well. And then he
lists their children, all of their children for children are obika Okay, so they married in Jamelia.
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Number five, authentic narrations in Sahih Bukhari and Muslim that Isha was helping with the wounded
in the Battle of Orford, and she was giving water and she was administrating bandages and whatnot.
And they argue It is well known that
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the profitsystem rejected 14 year old and already accepted 15 year old and, and so he could not have
been that young She must have been older than 15 if she is at awkward, I know it takes place the
second year of the hedgerow and according to the other reports, then she would have been 10 years
old or Max 11 she wouldn't have been and yet the process of rejected people till they were 15 at
all. And then the sixth position that they bring a piece of evidence that they bring is that Fatima
and as an issue there was a five year gap between them according to one report 111 tabular he says
Fatima was five years old with an eye Asia Okay, and then another report says that Fatima was born
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the year that the GABA was rebuilt so the person was 35 years old. So if you take report a that that
faulty when I show five years apart, report be Fatima's born in the year of
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the Gabba, then put a and b together. One is Ayesha born
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when he was when the process was 40, which would make Ayesha how old at the time of digital
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13 1314. And so at the time of consummation 15. And like I said, even this report, now you get a
different number. You don't get 1918, I was saying before you get different numbers, that different
number over here, and then he has other points as well, some of which are weaker, and some of which
would require much more to even explain where he's coming from much less to them, you know, explain
the counter. So their response to these six points very quickly and then a shallow data, we're
pretty much done the response to these six points. Firstly, we mentioned the issue of asthma and our
issue, the 10 year age gap. The response is quite simple. This age gap is reported by a tab Barry,
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and he is not wrong. But he's simply rounding to a number, a vague number, he's rounding in this
case down. And he's allowed to round down, because in reality, the age gap is probably 13 or 14.
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Okay, the age gap is 13 or 14. And so if somebody says SMR was 10 years older, so wrong, but it's
not mathematically precise. So you take a vague narration by attack theory, and you use it to
abrogate what she herself is explicitly saying I was six years old, I was nine years old, and the
whole usma Arusha. You know, age difference is clearly shown in the incident of his of the hedgerow
Asia does not play any role in the Hippodrome, she's absolutely out of the picture. Nobody her name
doesn't even come up, except the first time that the camel runs away. And that's her first memory.
Right? We talked about that last week, whereas a smile is the one even if hoffa comes in smacks her
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a smile is the one that's in the top and she tears her a smile is the one who is delivering the the
the food, this must be how old the youngest is. 1313 is my old for this right 1213. And that's
perfect. Our issue is basically any 10 years or eight years or something around, this doesn't have
to be exact. So the age 10 It doesn't have to be set in stone. It's a rough idea. And it is correct
to make a smart age 1314 years older, and if somebody were to say there's a 10 year age gap,
especially in that era, when they're not counting gears that much is you know, it's not a big deal.
Whereas for somebody to come later and then backtrack and re evolve all of history based on this
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vague narration, which is from a tabula anyways, not even from the Sahaba. And it doesn't make
sense. The second issue that
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pseudo Ahmad was revealed when I was God attend Abu in Makkah. So this is again, a vague term, it's
an authentic ID. What does Giardia mean? Giardia in Arabic applies to any young
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girl who has learned to walk up until she reaches the age of puberty. And therefore in our English
language, we have something called a toddler, and we have a young girl. In Arabic, a toddler and a
young girl is both Giardia. As long as you're waddling away, as long as you're walking along. You
are a Java, you don't have to be nine to be a Java. So the fact that she's saying I was a little
girl playing means she could have been three or four or five or six or seven or eight or nine, and
then it got to a place and she was six years old and muck and therefore she is a Giardia. So it's
not a problem, that sort of karma is coming down, and she is a Giardia, because Giardia is above the
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age of three. And Omar is makia. So she's saying when pseudoscalar came down, I was a little
toddler, you can translate jetty as a toddler, or even as she said, I was a little girl, five years
old is a Giardia, clearly. So this is again a vague term that they are reading into too much now. As
for the issue of MCQ, and folklore, and Jamelia customs, and she's narrating them. This to me,
really shows they're clutching at straws. Because every one of us know stories about the era we were
born with, that we didn't see. Why do we know them? Because that's the talk of the town when you're
growing up. Right? I was born in the 70s. I have very little memories of the 70s actually. But I can
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tell you a lot of stuff about the 70s not because I have memories of it. But because that's what my
parents talk about, about things that are taking place in that day. I mean, you know, I hardly use
the rotary phones, you know, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. I hardly use them, but I know them very
well. Okay, the LP players, maybe you guys use some of them, the older ones. I never used it in my
life, but I know what they are. Whereas the next generation doesn't even know that cassette player,
much less the LP player, right? This is gone. Now. The point is, I never used it in my life. Right?
But I know what it is because it's of my generation, meaning the era I was born into. And so many
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other anecdotes and stories from that timeframe. All of us know this. So what if she's narrating
something from MCC?
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What do you expect? She's heard it from her father, she's heard it from a elder sister she's learned
from that's the talk of the town. In fact, she is narrating things from the time of Khadija, as we
know, we mentioned this right? early marriage of the process of with Khadija How does she know it
through the prophet system. So the fact that she's narrating things from Makkah doesn't mean
anything at all. As for the issue of a worker, having married a middleman and whatnot before Islam,
yeah, and before Islam doesn't mean that our issue was born before Islam, maybe middleman was
married before Islam. The report does not mention that I was born before Islam. And that's reading
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into the report. As for the issue of helping the wounded and offered and you have to be 15 to
participate in code, who can respond to this is very easy.
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You have to be 15 to fight.
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She's giving water to the wounded. You're the one mixing and matching the 15 year old man to fight
and the wounded giving this is completely separate. There's no correlation whatsoever. As for the
age difference of Fatima, once again, clutching at straws at the point you're trying to create a
scenario and extract a narrative. Firstly, all of these are estimates by tab your own. How old was
Fatima? How old was I? She has nothing set in stone, whereas the age of Isaiah is first person in
her own
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words. And secondly, we are reconstructing one report says there was a five year age gap. Another
report says that she was born when the Kaaba was being rebuilt. Well guess what? There is a third
report as well. And that third report is that Fatima was born in the first year of the Dawa, not
when the Kaaba was being rebuilt. Okay, so if Phantom is born in the first year of the data, this
means I was born in the sixth year of the Dharma. This means she is six years old when this takes
place, and everything fits into place. So again, you're picking and choosing what is selected. For
you. The point is very simple. If she had been 18 years old at the time of marriage, she would have
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reported many more incidents from MK as an eye witness, and not as just something that happened in
Makkah, she would not have said I never met her deja, she would have had met Khadija because she
would have been 15 she would have met Khadija she never met her DJ she has no memories of Khadija
because she was five years old, four years old. When Khadija passes away, she has no memories of
Khadija. So the point is that everything fits the fact that she's playing with dolls when she
marries the process of them had she been 18 We don't expect her to be doing that. Had she been nine
it makes sense at that stage when she's just finishing up that phase of her life. All of this so
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nothing to be ashamed of no point to and to rethink through all of this. And in the end of the day
and with this we conclude with one other point and then inshallah we're done. The age of Arusha is
not
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problematic in the past. I am not saying we need to cut and paste and import to the President. I
have no problems. And in fact, I'm endorsing this, that in our times, there's no problem rethinking
through this issue.
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And a young lady of our times and the young man of our times is not like that of the past. And if
Islamic societies raised the minimum age, I am supporting of this 110%. The Shetty out does not say
that it is not allowed to fine tune what it would be how long to do is to criticize with the process
of did for his time in place. That would be Cofer, to be honest, to find that immoral schofer. But
nobody is saying that that issue and the age of Arusha, then because something we need to import our
times. And it is allowed to look at the time and place where and so you know what, in our time, it
doesn't have to be done. And we should raise the age to whatever is convenient for what we agree
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upon. Even in this state. And in this country. There is a difficult enough. One is the lowest agent
marriage to this day. I don't know how many don't quote me, but I think a dozen states allow
marriage to 12 or 13 year olds To this day, with some permission and whatnot. And in most states,
you can get married at 15 or 16, including the one we are in 15 or something as the age you can get
married. And this is to this day, who's going to decide the youngest age of marriage I mean, to be
again, a little bit more explicit. Let's put marriage to the side marital relations, in middle
school and high school are rampant.
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Who's going to dictate this again, all of these are so easy for, you know, somebody who's very
ignorant of culture and modern society in classical society to blame. The process of an ice age just
shows ignorance on the person's part. In reality, there's nothing to find problematic over the past.
We do not have to bring it out to our times in the future. The final point with this we conclude on
the issue of AI should not be alone. Why now, issue status is higher than that of all of our mothers
for one simple reason. And that is because Allah revealed poron explicitly about her Maalik ebenen.
Unnecessarily alone, Emma modic said, Whoever curses Abu Bakar and Omar shall be lashed. But whoever
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curses are issued, the punishment is execution. They said why Harsha. And he responded, because
Allah subhana wa Taala himself revealed in the Quran, you know, 10 verses about her, including he
said, yo como la antero dynamicity evident encounter more mini Allah warns you from ever repeating
that ever again, if you have a man. And so he said, Whoever accuses her has, has disagreed with the
Koran has rejected the Koran, and whoever rejects the port on the punishment is execution. the
humblest scholar who said that whoever accuses Ayesha of that sin that Allah freed her from he is a
cafard without any controversy. In fact, there is a huge amount on this issue. And in fact, more
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than one scholar of the great Roma have said that whoever curses Russia has left the fold of Islam,
even though he says that all of the scholars have agreed that whoever accuses Russia is a field he
is not a Muslim anymore. So we are very clear here that anybody who dishonors Arusha and again to be
explicit by this, we mean to accuse her of the crime that the hypocrites accused her of the slander
whoever insinuates This is not a believer, they are not a Muslim. Having said that, we have to be
very clear.
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The other group that doesn't like Russia,
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or the law of wine, ha,
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it is not fair to say that this belief is the norm amongst them. This is simply not true. It is
something that we have accused them of. Because we are irritated, rightfully, when they don't like
Arusha for political reasons. You understand?
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If you read their textbooks, and listen to their fatawa from their odema classically speaking, they
did not like our show this is well known.
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But the reason was because of her stance towards either the last one.
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And this issue of accusing her of that sin.
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I made a mistake 25 years ago 20 Yeah, oh my god, I'm that old.
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25 years ago, well, I made a mistake. And I said and this is on YouTube, you can listen to it, they
all they always quote this from me. And it was my younger stage where I said that they say this
apariencia and I was mistaken. I heard my teachers and my teachers say, you know, this is the the
sectarian that goes on, you know, between them. And after that point in time, I have done my
research. I
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I have read their books I have spoken to many of their leaders. And they have been very frank with
me. Many of them have said they don't like Ayesha for all of these reasons. And they mentioned there
is no Takia going on here when they told me this, but they said this issue No, it is not mainstream.
You will not find it in any
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of their Maharajah any of their famous books or their encyclopedias, which are printed, and they're
online, these encyclopedias that were not seen by Sudanese for many centuries, now they're online,
you can just download them, and you can see exactly what they believe. And you can get there what I
can ask them and I have done this, to my own extent, it is simply not true that they accuse our
issue of this sin, they accuse our issue of fighting and study of rejecting is hella for us, they
have a long list. And that's their perspective. And that's wrong. And they have to answer to Allah
for that. But
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that is not covered in and of itself.
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That is not covered. It's wrong. It's a bit and they have to answer to a lot, but it is not covered.
And in our times. Now, another problem comes that
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I don't like mentioning names at all.
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Once in a while I make exceptions.
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We have to understand just like amongst suddenly there are some crazies, we all know this. While
amongst the other group, there are also some crazies, some real crazies. And our problem comes we
find one of these crazies, we take a 10 second clip, and we say, oh, all of the crsa would that
crazy guy said no. Like you wouldn't like it if some, you know, suddenly weird photo was given and
they all soon as it like you wouldn't like it. So two, and one of these people that I don't mind
mentioning this person's name, but I still despite my animosity towards him, if he repents, then
Allah will repent. But there is a person with my own name. Exactly. based out of London, okay, my
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first name and his his name. So if you find out who he is, you know, but is My name is his name, and
he's based out of London, and he is one of the most vile, one of the most vulgar one of the most
crude, one of the most spiteful hateful of their clerics so much. So, most of their he's young, he's
younger than me, actually, in his 30s. I think I think he looks like in his 30s so much, and he is
creating a niche for herself, so much so that their own senior Mirage, their own senior move these
have given to us against this guy that stay away from him. He's crazy. And his accusations about
Arusha are just beyond the pale of reasonability. In fact, there's a famous viral clip out with a
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Valero developer eventually saying this, but you should just be aware, this is a living guy who has
a following who is people look up to him, and he is creating sectarian hatred. And I want you to
know when you hear this, that this person is a loner.
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This person is irregular, this person is off the methodology of mainstream twelver Shiism, I am not
defending Shiism, but we should not accuse Shiism but what it is not guilty of. And it is not guilty
of what this particular individual is saying. That is very clear. And of the things that he says and
I asked us forgiveness for even saying it but the one who says gopher doesn't become a cafe. He
actually accuses the law or the law of poisoning the process of death was a well known video clip of
his that caused a huge controversy. You know, this his accusation, okay. And his own scholars have
his own federal law including I Li homina, who is the senior most cleric in Iran, the senior most
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manager after committee is homenaje. He has given fatwa about this guy and and homina He is the
manager of Iran. And he has given far too as well community, to his own followers. This is on his
website, not to us, that they should stop saying anything bad about this is not a part of what he
believes should be done. Okay. This is harmony before him. Mohammed Fahd law of Beirut, Beirut,
right Beirut, Mohammed Abdullah of Beirut, one of the most famous Maharaja of Lebanon and this is
before this guy comes along back in, you know, the 2000s 2005 or so on the he gave a fatwa need to
stop doing this. Now this is their own Allah and Allah is very respected by you know, the the the
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the twelver Shia, and he's giving a fatwa amongst his manager community that I should be respected,
and we should not denigrate her. Okay. So we have to be fair, and not let our hatred get the better
of us. We are very angry when it is mainstream belief. They don't like our issue. That's true. But
they do not accuse her of the crime that Allah has freed her of that is the point. And the reason
they don't like Ayesha is to do with the politics between it and I still do love wine. And that's
wrong. And we don't agree with that, but it doesn't reach the level of good
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For So to conclude, I should have the last one here is our mother. She is one of the most beloved of
our mothers. In fact, she was the most beloved for her time. Khadija, of course, has a different
role altogether. And so for this we love whom Allah and His Messenger love. And because the Prophet
sallallahu alayhi wa sallam loved our Isha, we as well take her as our mother, and we have nothing
but the utmost respect, and all of our books, the picture that is painted of Ayesha indeed shows us
that she deserves that respect. With that we conclude our three part lecture about our show with my
apologies that I could have easily done part four, maybe even part five, but time is limited, and
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inshallah with data we will then move on next week to have rhodiola one half, but very quickly, go
ahead.
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Are there any other cases that people at that time got married at that young age, you know, there
are I cannot quote you off the top of my head right now. There are but the age of I OSHA was not
something a typical, the point is that the onset of puberty is when people were, you know, typically
married, that is the sign that Allah has given us. And biologically, if a child is raised in a
mature environment, intellectually, even puberty is the age they can get married. So there were
other young marriages as well. I cannot off the top of my head quote you. But like I said, the main
point is that it didn't even raise an eyebrow, nothing was problematic amongst the Sahaba. Amongst
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the co founder of Eurasia among the enemies amongst visitors have emerged, nothing, it was the norm.
And like I said, just compare it with Western culture. And in fact, I actually did very quickly
today just did a quick edit. I didn't write it down because I didn't need to feel the need to. I
found a number of marriages that took place amongst European royalty at the age of 789 10. I have a
list. I just quickly looked it up. I didn't put it in my notes, but I just looked up and then
there's no time. So there are examples.
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The name is coming to me now. One of the nobility of France. His daughter was eight years old when
she was sent as a bride to the other noble, the other kingdom. And this is in the seventh in the
1516 1400 like Middle Ages, right? As a bride she's being sent with her entourage. So she's being
sent on a ship as the bride. The Father is not there hasn't Rossetti Get it? as eight years old and
she goes with her handmade is everything their eight year old and this is 600 years ago and it was
the norm back then it's nothing to be something to be you know, find it problematic so shallow would
that time is already very late. I apologize inshallah. We will then continue next
