Yasir Qadhi – EPIC Replay – Is Infinite Punishment Fair, Is Gelatin in Medicine Allowed

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			Question for today. Two questions, the first question our brother emails and says,
		

			I'm having trouble understanding the issue of the eternality of jahannam. How do we answer somebody
who says that no matter how evil a person is, a finite amount of sins should not be punished for
infinity. So the brother is asking, how can we understand that Jahannam is never ending. And this
dunya is ending? And a person says How is it fair, that somebody's being punished for all of
eternity, for a finite quantity of sins? And then the brother says, And on that note, is it true
that Ibn Taymiyyah denied the eternality? Of jahannam? Okay, so he asks a very deep and profound
question of theology. And as you know, I always like to start with theology or methodology in my
		

			first question. So this is a two part question. Number one, the wisdom of Jahannam, being a bit
about the eternality. And number two, did Ibn Taymiyyah say that Jahannam is not eternal, that it
will stop and that there will be no agenda after that. As for the first question,
		

			realize that the scholars of Islam of all of the fear of Islam that are mainstream Faruk, all of the
classical groups of Islam, they have unanimously agreed that Jana is eternal. No one is of
significance of any group denied the agenda is eternal. And this is the standard position of all the
schools of Islam. As for Jahannam, then it is also the case that the majority position the
mainstream position of all of the groups and even Yes, of course, the one we're most interested in
Sunni Islam is that Jahannam as well is eternal. And this is the standard doctrine that we find
explicitly affirmed. And many books of Arcada have many strands even as soon as I'm not sure of any
		

			one particular strand. And there are many evidences for this, for example, in the Quran in surah
Telegin Allah says Wilma yatse la hora Sula, who for in de la Hoonah Raja Han NEMA Holly Dena V ha
aboda. And by the way, FYI, three times in the Quran three times Exactly. Allah azza wa jal mentions
Hadith ENFP Abba for jahannam. And for Jana is more than this for Jahannam three times, Allah says
Kali Dena, fie Ha, Abba, they shall be residing in it forever. Khalid and Han harlot actually does
not mean forever hard. It means long life. So that's where the name Khalid is the one who lives
long. So Hollywood does not necessarily mean forever. Hollywood or Hollywood means long, but not
		

			forever, but the word Avada. That's where we bring the the twist and we say
		

			ABA means and it does mean in Arabic ABA means forever and ever and ever and ever. So three times
Allah mentions Jahannam and then he says Holly Dena fee Ha, ABA And
		

			in another verse in non Muslim in Fei Dhabi, Johanna Holly doon, the sinners shall be in Jahannam
sinners here means we should Akun because whenever ALLAH says Colleen, then he's talking about the
big sin which has shook the sinners will be in Jahannam Holly dune forever and the longtime holiday
and does not mean forever longtime la you tell one whom it will never subside from them Lofa Toronto
won't be here Mobley soon and they shall remain in it a one mile from now home well I can kind of
Homo voddie mean, and we did not do just injustice to them. They did injustice to themselves. And
there are many, many evidences in the Quran. For example, call them Nadi julu home, but the Nahum
		

			julu, then Hira Halia do cool add up, every time their skin withers away, we will give them another
skin so that they can taste the torment. So there are many, many verses that indicate eternality of
jahannam. Therefore, it is pretty much standard doctrine that Johanna will also last forever, for
the category of those who commit shipwreck as for sinful Muslims, then by unanimous consensus, they
will not be in Johanna forever. There's no controversy over that. Now. The question was not over the
eternality. The question was, how do we understand the wisdom? Right? How do we understand the
wisdom because no matter how many sins a person has done, one lifetime is how long? 60 years, seven
		

			years, 100 years? Let's even say the Prophet Noah time, 900 years, 900 years, compared to infinity
of Jahannam a Kaffir? Comes a non Muslim comes, or even a Muslim who has doubts and says, How is
that fair? This is the question right? Okay, how do we respond to this question? Firstly, realize
that
		

			the problem of trying to explain the wisdom of Allah is an impossible one.
		

			You're asking a human, to try to explain to you the wisdom of the creator of humans.
		

			You are putting a person and it's not possible. And in the end of the day, perhaps our minds cannot
understand what are you going to do then? Rather than come with the assumption that I can understand
every wisdom of Allah this is an arrogant assumption. Who are you to understand every wisdom of
Allah Now is it wrong to ask for the wisdom? Is it wrong to ask the wisdom of a ruling yes or no?
No, where's the evidence for this?
		

			How do we know it's okay to ask for the wisdom?
		

			Many the Sahaba asked yes Aluna case the angels asked Why are you creating Adam right? Why would you
put Adam coldwater geography hermanos today via one afternoon Serbia, I'm gonna call this vlog, it
is not haram to try to ask why it is haram to reject if you don't understand why there is a
difference between the two. Right? They asked you about this, they asked you about that? And no
problem asked. So the brothers question is not a problem. But before I answer I want to say even if
you don't understand or I don't understand, or I cannot help you understand, that doesn't change the
ruling. So we have to answer the first in this manner. Also realize that while we fully believe that
		

			Allah does not do any injustice in Hola, hola, yo valine will miss Oliver rock one hour Buka Viva la
mia, Lil abit your Lord does not do volume. While we firmly believe this, what is loaded volume is
to burden someone with more than he or she can bear or to punish someone for the sins of another
person. This is normal. As for the severity of punishment, this is not one.
		

			As for punishing this versus that. This is not for the law giver in any law in any land in a
constitution, they will give you the punishment, the same crime in this country in 50 states you
might have 50 Different punishments. In this one country, you might have 50 I'm being exaggerated,
but really I'm being true in some way. It is possible the same issue can have multiple punishments,
even in this land depending on what state you live in.
		

			This is the reality of law, punishments are different. And Allah has every right to assign any
punishment to any crime because he is the law giver. He is the one who decides. So one he has
assigned a punishment for a crime somewhere now while doing that this is not voting. Lauren would be
to punish x for the crime of why that is doing and
		

			love will never do that. Right? Local live will not necessarily there was one article was written
was it Accra, these are two rooms Allah said he will never do. As for the severity of punishment,
there is no room over here the law is clear, and the law has been told to us. So there cannot be any
room for the quantity of punishment in the end of the day, hola is Malik and he can punish as long
as he wants for any crime that he has told us as a crime. The second point here is that to try to
understand the wisdom, let us give us some examples in our own human law. Do we judge the length of
the sentence by the length of the crime? Or by the severity of the crime?
		

			Do we judge the length of the sentence by the length of the crime, or by the severity of the crime?
severity of the crime? A murder in our times, if you use a gun will take one milli second 0.001
seconds something like this, a murder will take less than 1/100 of a second? Correct? If you use a
gun?
		

			Should the punishment if somebody were to say, why did why why was he given a lifetime for the deed
that cost point? 01? Will anybody think this is illogical, illogical, rather or excuse? Will anybody
say oh, the crime only took one second? Why is he being punished for 70 years? No, you don't look at
how long the crime was you look at how evil the crime was correct. This is the law everybody
understands. Now, in our religion, and honestly, even without the Quran telling us this common sense
tells us the biggest crime of any human being is to ignore why he has been created. What bigger
crime is there, then to ignore, to not even think about to simply turn away from the highest purpose
		

			of existence, which is to really try to find a Why am I here? Who created me? What's the purpose of
life, worship of Allah subhanho wa taala. And therefore, it is completely logical and rational, that
the one who refuse to even think about Allah, the Real Mushrik and kaffir. And that's why we say the
believers were sinful, this does not apply to them. The believers who believe in Allah who have an
ounce of iman as the prophet system said, eventually there'll be more from Johanna no problem there.
That is where the logic applies where Okay, a finite quantity of sins. Yes, okay. But the one who
did not even think about sin and good he didn't think about heaven and *, life and death, he
		

			never thought about why he is here. Then this person, Yanni Subhanallah, what was his life for? What
did he do with all of his life, as Aisha said about her great uncle intrude on ya rasool Allah
ventured and did so much goodwill ALLAH forgive him and even the prophets Assam said la Ubuntu
sadaqa. No, because even to Dawn never once said, Oh ALLAH forgive me. He never once even as a
mushrik as a pagan as a Kafir. He never said, Oh ALLAH forgive me. Allah was never on his mind, why
should then Allah turned him and forgiven him. So the one who never thinks of ALLAH turns away from
Allah has no purpose other than to live like an animal, when Allah made you a human and better than
		

			an animal and you live your life like an animal, then this, the severity of the punishment is based
upon the severity of the crime, and what greater crime is there than to turn away from Allah. And
this is indicated in a hadith in Sahih, Muslim authentic hadith, the Prophet SAW, some says that
Allah will say, to the one who is being punished the least in Jahannam, the least, and in which to
recoup is punished, punished forever. Allah will say, oh, so and so? Would you give up all that you
possessed in your life, your wealth, your family, everything? Would you give it up right now to be
saved from Johanna? And the man will say, Yes, I will, and 10 times more, Allah will say, listen to
		

			this, but I didn't ask you for all of this in this worth Earth. I only asked that you worship Me,
and don't do shit with me. And you refused for a beta. You refused, and you insisted on worshipping
other than me. So here we have one of the wisdoms of the eternality of the punishment. What did
Allah ask of us? All of our time, all of our wealth know, Allah said, understand who created you and
believe in that entity and worship Him and if your sinful turn to Him for forgiveness, Allah is go
forward Rahim. But the one who didn't even care to think and that's why again, we go back to another
question I give many, many months ago, about how about non Muslims who never heard of Islam and I
		

			mentioned look, we say Islam is the only way to Allah subhana wa Tada there's one path, but there
might be people on other paths, the path does not lead to Jannah. But Allah knows the person was
sincere, not the path, and Allah might forgive the person
		

			Listen, not the path. So we firmly believe somebody who try to be religious in an environment where
there was no Islam, who try to be sincere, righteous, pious in his own way, without knowing Islam
and whatnot, he shall lead this person we hope the best for him. We don't pronounce a verdict in
this dunya but they aren't gonna we hope the best for him no problem with that person. But how about
the one who just did not care? Woman Araga indicati, the one who turned away from Allah's dhikr. So
the severity of the punishment is due to the severity of the crime. The third thing we can say here
is that another thing that some of our scholars have mentioned, the eternality of the punishment, is
		

			due to the fact that the crime would have been eternal if they lived eternally. In other words,
Allah says in the Quran, they want to come back to this earth, right? And Allah says, Well, I do,
right, if they were to come back, right, hello, Roger, what is it? Well?
		

			No, well, I would do that I'll do them on one, if they were to be returned, they would go back to
what they were doing. This is the very key phrase in the Quran, when to do they do if Allah Allah
says, if I were to bring them back, they would go back to doing what they had been doing, which
means if they live forever, there should be forever. And so their punishment is for ever, as well.
So these are three answers that can be given to respond to the wisdom as for the issue of Ibn
Taymiyyah, denying the eternality of jahannam. This is a very, very interesting and a very detailed
and a very controversial topic. And I would love to give a much longer lecture, which was a very
		

			advanced lecture for were to be given. And in fact, in my master's dissertation, 20 years ago, or
something, there's an entire section about this issue. Because it dealt with one of the topics I was
doing, in a nutshell, did event me hold this view,
		

			it is quite clear that he defended the existence of two views in Sunni Islam, one that says Jahannam
is eternal, and one that says Jahannam is not eternal. In fact, the last book that he ever wrote,
and I have it in my library, the last book that he ever wrote, before he passed away, is the
refutation of the
		

			eternality of jahannam. Or and the title itself has has there are different versions of the title.
The title is the the issue about the eternality of gender is gender eternal or not, if not a year
mentions this that I asked even Taymiyah We don't claim is his main student, I asked even Taymiyah
about this question. That is it true that some of the set of denied that Jahannam is going to be
forever? Even Taymiyah said yes, it is true. And then he wrote his famous treaties. And it is a
treaties that has been discovered, and it has been published recently. And he defends the two
opinions, but he doesn't actually say what his own opinion is.
		

			So this has left people skeptical. Now his students ignore him. His student Abdelkarim
		

			has written about this in many, many places. And in fact, in one of his books, he has like 1015
pages about this topic. And in fact, I've written a paper that is published as well about the mental
claims view on this issue, and you can reference it over there. But it built by him, perhaps in all
of SUNY history, is the one who defends this issue of Jahannam not being permanent, most like the
most detailed evidences he brings to claim that Jahannam is not eternal, that at some stage Jahannam
will cease to exist. And the people in Jahannam will cease, they will not. And he interprets Holly
Deena via a Buddha, as a Buddha here means long, long, long, long, long, long, long time, but not
		

			eternal. And his evidence is Quranic and from the self as for the Quran, Allah says lab, Athena fee
Acaba and a hub means long periods of time. So Allah says they will be in it for long periods of
time. And Allah also says in the Quran, that they will remain in it Madame Mata sama watchword,
although Illa Masha are a book in the Rebecca Farah Ulema unit, they will be punished in Jahannam
for as long as the heavens and earth remains. Now this is an expression in Arabic Madame it is semi
watered out means forever right? Then also it means they will remain in Jannah forever. Then Allah
says, Allah, masha or a book except if your Lord decrees something else. In Rob Baca, Lima you read,
		

			Allah is Able to do whatever he wants. No one
		

			Did Allah end the verses of Johannes punishment with this very interesting ending? They shall be in
there forever. Except if Allah wills and Allah can will whatever he wants. You see this except it
will kill you and bases it on this issue. And he does bring this issue as well of Allah's Rama, etc,
etc. Then after 10 pages of defending and evidence and he quotes even Masood Ibn Massoud said this
remarkable cutoff said this, Abu Huraira said this, there are narrations found in the classical
books that eventually Jahannam will cease to exist from the Sahaba not any Hadith about the prop
from the Prophet system. Then developed by him says if you were to ask me what my opinion is, I will
		

			say Allah knows best and he and left it at there he did not categorically state, right? Allah foully
Modi decoded the Quran and Allah Akbar Allah Lima, you read. So both Ibn Taymiyyah and Abdul Karim
they this is my opinion, seem to be inclined towards the claim that Jahannam is not eternal. But to
say that they believed this is also not 100% accurate. They defended it. Yes. And they said this is
very plausible, especially if not by him. They said this is very plausible. Now. I want to just
finish off here by saying that this question there's a second question as well, that the the issue
of Ibn Taymiyyah and his position has caused much controversy. Has it been Tamia typically always
		

			does Subhan Allah Masha Allah, Ibn Taymiyyah is the person I admired the most in all of Islamic
history. And it is also true to say he generated so much controversy while he was alive. And even
until our times not all controversy is bad, by the way, hint hint. So, and of course, even in TV, of
course, it's very interesting, that Subhanallah I just have to say this year that his followers and
I have gently criticized many of his followers, His followers, some of his followers today, they did
not like the fact that they've been tagged me and might have denied the eternality of Johanna,
because this is something that you don't find in any person before even Taymiyah. So some of the
		

			modern people of that movement, who claim to follow in Tamia deny that epitome ever said this, and
they say this book is a fabrication. And they say he could never have said this and they are made
massive debates within that movement, whether he said it or not. And I find this so interesting,
that they have constructed an image of a bit me that even even Tamia could not live up to, if you
understand what I'm talking about. If not, then don't worry about it. But the image that they have
of their version of Islam is so unreal, that even their own scholar that they look up to, could not
live up to their own interpretation of that image. And also I what I of course, I admire Ben to me
		

			immensely, even though I'm not a blind follower, and I respectfully disagree with some minor things.
But one thing I love about Ibn Taymiyyah he didn't care what anybody thought. And he spoke what he
believed to be the truth, even if and this is a key point, even if pretty much everybody before him
said something else.
		

			And he seems to be one of the first people breaking away from a vast majority of scholarship. But he
feels the Quran and Sunnah says something else, simply because 99.9% of the people before him said
something didn't mean anything to him.
		

			And to me that requires intellectual bravery, whether you agree or disagree, this is independent
mind set. And I hope that also contextualize this a little bit of other things without going too
detailed. Whether that is true or not. A low bidder just in the after in history will be judged in
this world as well. But I agree with this point. 100%. So what if 99.9% of the people before you
said it doesn't make a doc with a capital hat?
		

			And if you look at his position on the triple product, for example, we'll talk about the one because
that was a question also can window talk about that Ibn Taymiyyah was the first fapy the first item
to publicly state the triple Talaq cannot be triple. And this is the footwear that even as her now
is adopting and other institutions are adopting, because they realize the world is a very difficult
place. If you follow this position, we'll get to the issue of triple Tada Ibn Taymiyyah was the one
who said this, that now is becoming standard position, even though none of the mainstream scholars
before him said that. So in any case, if you want a further reading, there is actually a book
		

			published by Oxford, a collection of articles you also have my article in there published in it and
the title of the book is Islam and the fate of others by Muhammad Hassan Ali. And there is an entire
chapter about him and to me his view about Jahannam and there's also a chapter about my view about
salvation you will find it in that book. That is our first question. The second question hamdulillah
simple easy, very juicy inshallah. Simple and to the point.
		

			Our sister, Fatima says that she has to take a medicine and that
		

			Medicine has gelatin in it and so she is confused is gelatin in medicinal tablets permissible
standard question we always get asked it. So today inshallah we will answer this question in an
academic fashion. Firstly what is gelatin? Gelatin is a type of protein it is derived from animal
tissue. It is a form of collagen and it has properties that makes it useful for various foods and
medicines of them is that it can be very easily made relatively tasteless and odorless and it has a
protective layer so it can be made to basically
		

			put medicine inside it and you have the gelatin capsule outside of it right so it's odorless and
tasteless and you're preserving the stuff inside of it or you can add sweet and make the gelatin
itself into a sweet think of jello. Jello is exactly gelatin that's what gelatin is right? Jello is
nothing but gelatin so that that material which is you know, just enough permeable and what not to
enjoy to eat gummy stuff and you put some sweetener to sugar. So gelatin can put give texture to a
food, it can protect the food inside of it. It's something that can be very useful in many different
		

			types of food and that is why we find it in so many different food products. Now, where does gelatin
come from? There are four primary sources of gelatin number one, animals, number two fish number
three plants and number four synthetically produced Okay, these are the four primary sources of
gelatin. Now, we are talking about the first one if if gelatin comes from fish, it is halal for us.
If gelatin comes from plants, it is halal. If gelatin is synthetically manufactured in a laboratory.
It is halal, however, don't quote me, but like 80 to 90% of the gelatin the world comes from the
first category which is animals, you do not find gelatin from plants, except with great, great,
		

			great difficulty, those that are strict vegans. And they will not take gelatin from animals, they
will somehow when they manufacture their pills, they will go to the gelatin from plants, and
therefore the price is going to be jacked up because it's more difficult etc. So that's very rare to
find gelatin from fish is also very rare because I mean, come on fish bone seriously, it's not easy
to do, right. So some types of gelatin comes from fish. And typically when it does, it will also
have the label on there. But these are very rare as for synthetically produced gelatin, as far as I
know, as far as I know, you will not find it in any food product because to produce synthetic
		

			gelatin is like 50 times more expensive than to just extract it from animals. So why would anybody
produce it in a lab, nobody produces it in a lab and then puts it in a food product. It costs too
much. So the default when you pick up a product and it says gelatin, where is it from? What's the
default, animals ignore the other three categories unless it's set so if it says And I've seen this
with my own eyes, gelatin in brackets plant derived if you find this on the product 100% Hello. And
generally when the corporation is using plant gelatin, it will want to tell you why. Because it's
advertising to the
		

			to the vegans. Okay, so we're now talking about gelatin that is animal derived and that is the
default now, obviously, obviously, now gelatin is derived typically from the meat and the joints and
sometimes even the skin of the animals, obviously, if you're going to use animals that have been
slaughtered according to the laws of Islam, so the animal itself is thought hid and it is there
behind what, what not. Obviously if you make gelatin from those bones, gelatin is halal. Okay.
Nihari is one step away from gelatin.
		

			This elog Nihari Nihari is one step away from Jellison and it is 100% halal. Okay, so when you
invite your next, make your next new hottie I have to come and make sure it is halal for you as well
make sure you invite me for that. So obviously, when the bones are halal, what you produce from the
bones is halal. But when you go to the marketplace, are they using the Bhakra from either of her?
No, they're using where Which animal do they use most?
		

			Consider pig. Why do they use Pig the most? It's the cheapest for them. And also by the way, the
most gelatin comes from those bones as well. By the way, it's two reasons. First, pigs are cheap for
them easy there. And then number two, the amount of gelatin they extract from that quantity is more
from pigs than from other animals. So the default when you see gelatin in the Western world, is that
it is not just coming from a animal it is coming from the one animal that you don't want it to come
from, which is Kinsey. Now. I know that some Muslim countries produce gelatin
		

			and if it's a Muslim country producing gelatin, the assumption should be the gelatin is halal.
Because we do not expect any
		

			A Muslim country to produce from concede, they're going to be producing it from cows and whatnot.
And we assume it is hella, but we are worried about now the non Muslim lands that we live in. So we
say the most of the gelatin that comes from the substances that we purchase on our shops here in
this part of the world, it is actually coming straight from the most nervous animal. And that is the
pig. So with that, that was all introduction. Now we get to the big issue. And this is an issue that
I want all of us to know it's a simple rule of fic
		

			does something that is nudges become far here, when it changes?
		

			This is the question
		

			or does it always remain not just if the source of something is not just Will it always be nudges?
Or when it changes, it will cease to be nudges and we can now say that it is Tawhid it is now pure,
the Arabic term for this the fifth key term for this is, is the Hala is the Hala and all of you
without exception know the root of this word, because you say it all the time. La hawla wala Quwata
illa biLlah howl means higher layer who means what state change state is the higher law to change
from one house to another to change from one state to another. This is what is the higher law means
it is the technical term that the books of filter use about changing substances and products. And
		

			this is a classical topic of Islam, you will find discussed in all the med hubs and the question is
does st Hala make the nervous thought here? That's the question. Okay.
		

			And you will find and this is an interesting point because actually inshallah our minds will think
about this in early Islam, what I call classical Islam, the majority of the med hubs and scholars
said no, it does not. And it is the standard position of the Shafi school and it is the Mortimer the
accepted of the humbly school and it is the well known also in the Maliki school as well, that
something which is not just will always remain nameless. However, the Hanafi school mashallah Tabata
Cola, they were the forward thinkers here. And they said
		

			is the Hala renders nudges into PA hear something that was nudges? One, it undergoes a
transformation completely, it ceases to be nudges, and it becomes thought here. Okay, and,
		

			and I'm going to be very explicit here Subhanallah I hope this doesn't also the 10 second clips into
the refutations I want to be conscious of them all the time Subhanallah
		

			our classical scholars with utmost respect to them were also human beings. And their fact was, and
the rulings and understandings are based upon the knowledge that they knew the fact of the matter.
Anybody who knows the most basic knowledge of modern chemistry, cannot possibly hold the majority
position anymore.
		

			Why? Because everything keeps on changing the atoms in us would have been not just at one point in
time, they're going to be nudged to another point in time. Change is a part of nature. And we all
are recycling our atoms. And what was not just becomes tired, what was tired becomes not just what
we eat, goes out comes in oil goes out not just right. And what goes out not just decomposes and
fertilizers and comes out by hand again, with utmost respect. And this is not meant I will the
biller to make fun of yours, it was the classical scholars of Islam, please don't read and we would
not be here without the classical and yes, even the medieval scholars of Islam is not a disciple to
		

			be less just the fact the scholars are human beings. And they just thought that something that is
not yours is going to remain niches forever. We love them we respect them, but we now have knowledge
of chemistry, knowledge of basic physics knowledge that they did not have something that is nudges
when it changes and decomposes and completely come something else. It is no longer the original and
it is no longer and it just becomes tired. We eat that which comes from the negative becomes tired.
Even physically we understand this we can take urine and in the simmer Simple distillation in the
most basic laboratory extract pure water from urine. Can we not do this now? Right pure the purest
		

			in fact many cities of the world their drinking water is recycled water.
		

			You did not know this. Okay. So it's well known. Now he's going to Google which city and never go
there right. Some of the largest cities in the world. Their tap water which they drink is the notice
that has been recycled and everybody understands it's completely legit right? And again, this shows
us My dear brothers
		

			and sisters is not our developer making fun of any minutes. It's knowledge you build on what the
past is, is akmola. Here, we, we thank you for all that you've done. Now we take your contribution,
we now benefit with what we know we move forward. That's what knowledge is, when we do so we're not
trying to criticize the past, we're simply saying, we thank you for your services, we now need to
move on, nobody can ever claim that is to have doesn't change, not just into toys. This is now the
default position of every modern scholar of our times and every council of field across the globe.
Even the shafted councils of field have changed their method, and they say is to how to render slide
		

			into sorry, not just into the head. Is that clear right now. And this is the position of all the
scholars of modern times regardless of what the classical said, because it's common sense. And
chemistry proves this. Now, we firmly believe now what's the evidence by the way, the evidence has
many many evidences of them is vinegar. Vinegar is in evidence because what is vinegar many of us
muslims have no clue what vinegar is. When you find out you're shocked you're like is vinegar How
long is the next question? No, our Prophet system came home IDF is in Behati and he said to isha
that is there anything to dip the bread in, you know condiment is anything? And she said we only
		

			have vinegar, and he said, Give me the vinegar, and he dipped the bread and vinegar. And he said
what a great condiment Nirmal Adamu alcohol. What a great condiment is vinegar. Vinegar is a great
thing to dip your bed and you know subzi type of stuff same thing you dip your butt into eaten he
ate Vinegar Vinegar is completely Halal by unanimous unanimous consensus. What is vinegar? Oh
Muslims, do you have any idea what vinegar is? You would know what is vinegar?
		

			It is Hummer that has gone through the entire fermentation process. You cannot get vinegar without
an intermediary of actual Hummer. Why are Muslims who mashallah hamdulillah May Allah keep us this
blissfully innocent, we should keep this blissful innocence. Why do they cork alcohol?
		

			Why is alcohol always blocked? We don't want any air when they don't want them. We rephrase that.
They don't want any air in it. Why? Because if you uncork the alcohol, and you leave it to be what
happens, it becomes vinegar. That's what vinegar is. Vinegar is fermented alcohol. Right now. The
majority of madhhab say that alcohol is nurturers whether it is or not as a separate issue. I will
talk about that one day but that's the position they have. And the majority of men to have all the
methods say all the men have say that that vinegar is thought you understand what's just happened
here is to help is to help the majority of men have all format to have say that alcohol is not just
		

			Hummer is nitrous and all the men have say vinegar is tall hit what just happened is to holla this
shows us another example that is given us this is the issue of skin leather are processed and passed
by a shoe hadith is in Abu Dhabi, and the sheep was dead it wasn't there but had died. So of course
nobody's going to eat the sheep the process said why don't you Why don't you take the skin and use
use leather get the leather from the dead animal and they said Yarrow salts Mater. It's a dead
animal is not just and our profit system said tanning the animal purifies the skin. Tanning sorry
tanning the skin so I purifies it tanning the skin purifies it now the skin if you take it filthy
		

			wet, what not? This is not just correct. Yeah. Now you're going to turn it which means you go
through a chemical process you put it in the sun, you do it as you completely change it is a
complete transformation. It was not just now it is for him. So this is the evidence in the shed era
that clearly indicates is the Hala does make the nurturers into PA him. We are all understanding
this point right. Okay, final big section and we are done. Now that I proven is the Hala is indeed
legitimate in transforming the jossa into taharah. The question we need to ask ourselves is the
following.
		

			Is the extraction process for gelatin a valid is the hauler or not this is the question
		

			we agree that is the highlight changes not just in total here agreed?
		

			Has gelatin undergone a sufficient is the Hello
		

			is this a field key question or a chemical question Who can tell me
		

			chemical question. So believe it or not, based on what answer a chemist will give the FDA key will
have a different answer.
		

			You understand this point here. Once again we are seeing different specializations coming into play
space. And if you Google is gelatin Halal without under
		

			Standing this also that I've tried to do all this also without understanding the soul, and you quote
me tenant ulama, seven of them, or six of them will say gelatin is not just three or four will say
gelatin is halal. And you go look up those three or four who say gelatin is halal, and they will say
So based upon the understanding that is the Hala has occurred
		

			in gelatin.
		

			In fact, there is no disagreement amongst all the 10 about the soul. The disagreement is in
chemistry, not in fact, believe it or not. So who should we ask for tea? Or a chemist?
		

			For this issue, we need the faculty chemists and mechanical dream, by the way, okay. I have a minor
in Chemistry as true I do actually. So all gone, by the way, it's all completely gone.
		

			But who should we ask the 14 or the chemist? In this case, we need to ask the chemist,
		

			we need to ask the chemist has a genuine transformation occurred in the extraction process of
gelatin.
		

			With my utmost respect to our folk Aha, once we have proven that is the Hala is good. And it is we
now need to find out whether it's data has occurred. And this is not the job of our folk Aha, they
will not tell us if this data has occurred in gelatin. And in the extraction process. This is the
chemists job to tell us, we go to the chemists, I have been to over a dozen specialists. Even though
Insha Allah, I am not a jarhead in chemistry, and I've done my own research. And I have my own
position, which is the same. I have personally asked over a dozen specialists, including PhDs in
chemistry and biochemistry, including people that have specialized in collagen and in proteins. And
		

			I have found them unanimously to tell me the exact same thing, as I concluded with my very basic
knowledge of chemistry. And that is, what do you think?
		

			Why should you want the easy position?
		

			Before I answer you, let me tell you this.
		

			And when I tell you this, you will know my answer. You can produce gelatin in your kitchen.
		

			It's very, very, very simple. You can literally, Google how to produce gelatin in your kitchen. And
you can take the bones, put them in water, boil them scrape a little bit, right, take the bones out,
you know, make the water evaporate, do this and that. And that is basically your gelatin.
		

			Where do you think I'm heading with this?
		

			It is not a process that radically changes the structure.
		

			It is simply transferring that collagen from the bones of the animal into a substance that you can
use for your food. So very, very, very basic surface level. It's not even fractional distillation
level, if you know your chemistry and whatnot, it's very basic level. And that is why and one of my
friends that I spoke with us about this and he was very passionate and he was writing a paper for a
filthy journal. He has a PhD in biochemistry, but he's writing a paper about his data of gelatin,
actually. And he said, Just show me
		

			any gelatinous structure. And I will tell you with basic microscopes that I have, whether it comes
from a pig or a horse or a cow just by looking at the structure from the microscope, that's how
little change has occurred, that I can just look at and I'll tell you where it's from.
		

			And in my own research on this issue, I think it is very clear that
		

			it's the highlight, of course changes in the jossa to taharah. Yes, we agree. But gelatin does not
undergo a process of Mr. Hala
		

			gelatin does not undergo that process, you simply take the protein material from the bones of the
pig, and you transfer it into that candy or into that jello or into that pill that you are using for
your medicine. And therefore it retains its Natasa the verdict will be that it retains that
adjustment. Okay. Therefore, and by the way, this is the position of the much more I feel called
Islami and I will always try to quote your mathematical estimate because I have said many many times
out of the modern councils of the world, it is the largest and earliest and most respected modern
Council it meets in Makkah rather than ultimate Islamic founded it and it's one that represents
		

			almost all of the dominant schools of modern Islam and geographic geographies and over 100 or
demand, multi touch the earth money all of these great orlimar are part of this module Filipinas
Nami OYC ziani counselor and they have
		

			their or their their decree which is in front of me here. Issue
		

			On
		

			October 31 1998, about the issue of gelatin and it's an Arabic And I simply say that it is allowed
to use gelatin if it is extracted from Halal sources that are slaughtered According to the sources
of Islam. And it is not allowed to use gelatin that comes from haram sources like pig and the bones
and the skin of pigs and of the fatwa This is the fatwa of much more ethical Islamic and rabbit and
Maccha were pretty much all the scholars that are there they basically said gelatin does not go as
to holla it doesn't count as as the Hala That having been said our sisters question was about
medicine. So we say if the medicine is needed to sustain a reasonable level of life, it's not some
		

			beauty product and there's no alternative to conditions then this is the era
		

			if either of these two conditions is not met, if you're taking something for beauty it's not
something that's needed from quality of life without it you're going to suffer or not suffered so
it's not a matter of life and death by the way gelatin is not that no it's a matter of look you
cannot breathe normally your blood pressure is going to die something of this nature where the
quality of your life will be markedly different and you have a product here that has gelatin in it
right and inside of it is your your medicine. If you can find a halal alternative for a price that
you can afford, then you should go to that Halal alternative and I humbly say most medicines will
		

			have a halal alternative as far as I know. Most medicines will have Halal alternatives do the
research. Okay, I even know of a case where the doctor said to him for this particular medicine you
don't really need the capsule you can open the capsule put it into water than drink the water and
make sure you go to the doctor don't come to me go to your doctors right again. Yeah people of Islam
don't ask scholars questions that they're not qualified to answer a scholar as a human being a
scholar is also by as a scholar has his own views, I cannot give you stock options I cannot give you
a you know Filter View and you know you go to me for what I know and you go to the specialist for
		

			what they know. So if you have an alternative excellent if not ask your doctor would not okay this
medicine can i Is it allowed for me to put in another substance without taking the capsule and insha
Allah this would be the ideal thing if you're not able to there's no substitute and the doctor says
no, this has to go in tact into your stomach whatever in this case, locally for long enough and Illa
WISA and you're allowed to take this medication, if there is no alternative and with that insha
Allah Allah we come to the conclusion of today's halacha inshallah tomorrow we will have our lecture
was Salam alaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh
		

			in Mussolini now almost Lima de one meaning I will not mean it will quantity now look on it that he
was slowed in pain I was born in Poland he was slob eating I was slaving
		

			for sheer you know
		

			what unfortunately no one was watching. The one downside the lino one downside being bought in was
all me now was all in
		

			what have you Lena for gentle home one has a lot the was that good enough long I guess.
		

			What's going on? I don't know hula hoop
		

			now leave